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B
Okay,
let's
call
the
february
first
called
meeting
to
order
sean
for
people
who
are
calling
in
you've
put
the
number
on
the
agenda,
which
is.
B
607-772-7028,
which
is
the
planning
department
number,
so
if
people
are
listening
and
not
on
the
zoom
call,
you
can
call
that
number
and
and
be
heard
sean.
Are
we
changing
the
agenda
order
at
all
today.
B
Okay,
so
I
see
on
the
first
order
business
we
have
to
elect
22,
chairperson
and
vice
chairperson,
correct.
A
So,
as
our
first
meeting
of
the
new
year,
we
need
to
select
the
chairperson
and
vice
chairperson.
We
can
continue
with
ken
and
john
if
they're
willing
to
serve
again.
B
And
I'm
I'm
fine,
where
I
am,
unless
somebody
else
wants
to
take
a
run
at
it
or
has
a
big
urge
to
take
a
run
at
it.
D
Nope
I
nominate
both
to
be
I
nominate
ken
to
be
chair
and
john
to
be
vice
chair
for
the
common
year.
B
No
second
order:
business
is
approval
of
minutes
from
december
14,
2021.
B
All
in
favor,
okay,
motion
passed
first
order
of
business
on
the
agenda
is
22
front
street.
A
Yes
and
give
me
one
second
here:
the
zoom
drop
down
menu
loves
to
pop
up,
and
I
think
I
can
move
this
there.
We
go.
That's
the
bottom
of
my
screen.
There
we
go.
The
minutes
are
done,
and
here
we
are
at
22
front
street,
with
the
applicant
being
discoveries
and
culture
inc.
This
is
a
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
A
For
now,
what
I
would
consider
essential,
exterior
repairs.
A
The
applicant
is
sort
of
embarking
on
a
longer
term
rehabilitation
project
for
the
property
which
is
connected
to
the
roberson
museum
and
science
center,
and
so
this
I
believe
we
have
representatives
from
both
discoveries
and
sculpture
on
and
that's
keith,
and
we
do
have
a
representative
from
the
museum,
michael
grasso,
and
so
they
can.
They
can
speak
a
little
bit
further
if
need
be
about
the
detailed
phases
of
the
rehabilitation.
A
The
applicant's,
also
working
with
shippo
on
this
I've
been
in
contact
with
the
chabot
reviewer
for
the
project,
but
the
first
item
that's
being
planned,
is
to
rebuild
a
failing
like
12
foot
portion
of
the
north
foundation,
stone
wall
and
the
plan
is
to
reuse
the
existing
stone.
That's
present
and
then
there's
a
series
of
of
repairs
that
the
applicant
has
proposed
and
they've
also
presented
paint
colors.
A
I
think
the
applicant
should
return
to
cod,
but
in
general
I
think
the
the
plan
is
consistent
with
the
design
guidelines
as
presented
and
it's
very
clear
that
a
preservation
ethic
is
at
the
center
of
this
rehabilitation
and
I'm
really
glad
to
see
this
being
pursued.
This
is
a
really
wonderful
historic
structure
along
front
streets.
A
I've
been
inside
the
details
of
the
interior
are
amazing
and
match
the
wonderful
details
on
the
exterior.
So
it's
great
to
see
a
preservation
approach
being
taken
here.
I
don't
have
many
more
comments.
I've
included
a
summary
of
the
guidelines,
as
you
saw
in
the
staff
report,
as
applicable
in
this
case,
but,
like
I
said,
everything
that's
been
presented
thus
far,
is
consistent
with
the
guidelines.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
sean
apple
applicant,
either
keith
or
mike.
Do
you
want
to
add
anything
to
sean's
brief
presentation.
E
This
is
keith.
No,
not
really
I
mean
he's
he's
right.
It
is
a
restoration
ethic.
If
you
will,
I
mean
we
don't
have
unlimited
funds,
so
the
attempt
will
not
be
to
actually
restore
detail
to
detail
to
1865
and
I
don't
know
for
sure
what
the
shingles
on
the
roof
were
originally,
but
we
would
certainly
be
willing
wanting
to
replace
them
to
present
appearance.
E
The
porch
is
going
to
be
rebuilt
to
its
origin,
as
we
assume
it
to
be
the
original
design
porch
posts
that
are
deteriorated.
We
will
be
replaced
with
equivalent
posts
wood
intended
to
match,
so
the
the
exterior
will
be
restored
essentially
to
the
way
it
looked
probably
30
years
ago
before,
as
the
damage
started
occurring.
E
We
actually
don't
have
it,
we
are
leasing
the
property
from
roberson,
and
that
is
just
in
the
works
now.
So
it's
it's
a
a
symbiotic
relationship
with
roberson,
as
this
project
moves
forward.
B
Okay
board
members:
any
questions,
thoughts.
B
E
C
E
These
are
supposed
to
be
historic
colors.
They
were
the
closest
I
could
find
to
what's
in
the
on
the
house
now.
C
B
Aye
unanimous
motion
passes
for
pain,
color.
Second,
action
that
we
have
sean
wants
us
to
consider
is
the
general
outline
of
the
repairs
that
are
listed
in
the
application
and
as
sean
indicated
as
they
advance
this,
and
there's
a
need
to
come
back
before
us
for
something
specific,
then
they're
willing
to
do.
That.
Is
that
correct
sean.
A
Yes,
yep,
I
would
say
that,
as
as
presented,
this
general
plan
is,
is
essentially
for
what
I
would
consider
essential
repairs
to
ensure
that
the
this
structure
remains,
and
so
it's
a
general
outline
for
rehabilitation
and,
as
you
know,
as
they
progress
with
these
projects,
I
would
expect
that
we
would
receive
further
details
with
regard
to,
for
instance,
the
exact
shingles
right
in
in
this
case
for
the
mansard
roof.
That's
just
one
example,
but
as
as
those
details
become
available,
the
applicant
should
return
before
the
commission.
C
I
think
the
work
is
absolutely
commendable.
I've
been
all
through
that
building
back
when
there
was
an
antique
shop
attached
to
roberson,
I'm
very
much
supportive
of
it
and
again,
if
nobody
has
any
any
questions
or
comments,
I
would
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
plan
for
the
work
to
be
done
on
22
front
street.
A
Yes,
it
is
yep,
this
is
their.
This
is
their
second
appearance.
Let
me
just
make
sure
this
up,
and
I
know
we
have
representatives
from
the
islamic
awareness
center
present,
and
so
we
can
get
started
so
again.
Just
to
refresh
this
is
a
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition
for
the
property
located
at
6
livingston
street.
The
commission
previously
reviewed
this
application
at
the
very
beginning
of
december
and
as
part
of
that
conversation,
I
think
the
commission
had
some
concerns
about
the
post-demolition
plan.
A
I
know
planning
staff
had
some
concerns
about
it
and
also
with
regard
to
the
adjacent
parking
lot
at
8,
livingston
and
sort
of
the
what
would
become
of
six
living
standing
in
conjunction
with
eight
livingston
post-demolition
of
the
structure
at
six
as
part
of
the
staff
review
since
cod's
review
in
december,
we've
worked
closely
with
the
applicant.
The
applicant
listened
to
cod's
concerns
provided
updated
documentation
of
the
interior
of
the
structure
and
has
put
forward
sort
of
a
very
like
tentative.
A
I
would
describe
it
plan
for
the
parking,
but
they've
also
committed
to
the
planning
department
that
they
will
seek
planning
commission
review
for
the
the
proposed
parking
area
with
the
adjacent
parking
area
at
eight
livingston
within
one
year,
and
they
will
bring
both
into
compliance
and
they've
committed
to
that.
And
it
is
enforceable
through.
A
Of
approval
today
to
grant
a
determination
of
significance.
B
Okay,
so
in
the
in
the
presentation,
material
and
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
sean,
it
seems
like
it's
a
it's
a
dual
purpose
situation,
which
has
parking
with
the
ability
to
have
courts
and
and
various
things
that
are
outlined
in
the
parking
lot.
And
then
I
also
saw
some
green
space.
I
think
from
there
right.
A
A
So
the
green
space,
as
I
understand
it
and
the
applicant
can
correct
me
if
I'm
incorrect
here,
but
the
green
space
is
at
six
and
then
the
area
immediately
adjacent
here
in
gray
is
eight
and
then
that's
what
you're
seeing.
B
G
Hello
hi:
this
is
a
khalid
yeah.
I
put
down
two
because
and
that's
us
further
working
with
planning
department
and
we
are
open
to
you
know
the
I
you
know
whether
two
gates
is
better
or
what
is
going
to
be
compliant
to
make
it.
You
know
for
flow
of
traffic
and.
C
G
B
Okay,
so
in
this
illustration,
this
is
where
you
were
having
a
another
structure
there,
but
I
forgot
what
the
structure
was.
What
the
is
that,
like
a
pavilion.
G
A
pavilion
yeah
and
a
couple
I
mean
I
it's
a
it's
a
plan
for
for
years
out
and,
like
I
explained
with
some
of
the
other
members,
is
that
you
know
we
do
everything
off
of
donations
and
there's
you
know,
thank
god,
there's
people
that
do
donate,
especially
if
we
say
this
is
what
we're
looking
for,
but
things
just
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
That's
why
we
have
the
projections
for
years
down
the
road
we'd
like
to
continue
to
use
it
as
a
grounds
for
our
community.
B
Good
thought
into
you
know
what
we
discussed
and
it's
a
nice
dual
purpose
and
the
green
space
is
in
in
the
same
location
as
the
houses.
I
think
that
works
out
well,
other
members,
any
comments
or
thoughts.
C
Well,
I
got
a
question
mark
for
sean.
Is
the
one
is
not
complying
at
this
time
and
there
is
a
a
bargain
in
place
with
the
city?
Are
we
in
our
capacity?
Is
our
commission?
Are
we
legally
able
to
to
review
this
or
make
a
judgment,
and
if
it's
not
in
compliance,.
A
A
C
A
Yes,
you
can.
You
can
because
of
the
like
arrangement
that
the
essentially
the
applicant
has
stated
that
they
are
working
towards
compliance
within
a
set
period
of
time
right
and
one
year
from
you
know,
february
1st,
in
february
1st
2023,
our
zoning
enforcement
officer
at
that
time,
would
you
know,
reach
out
to
the
applicant
and
see
what
their
progress
is,
perform,
a
site,
inspection
and
if
it
wasn't
compliant
at
that
time,
a
notice
of
violation
would
be
issued.
E
A
B
Okay,
I
think
our
focus
is
six
livingston
street
in
the
determination
of
historical
significance
for
that
and
correct,
it's
planned
to
be
used
as
a
green
space,
as
opposed
to
a
parking
lot
which
takes
us
away
from
the
conflict
that
we
had
last
time
of
taking
six
livingston
as
part
of
the
parking
lot.
C
A
Yeah,
I
would
encourage
just
one
final
thought
too.
I
would
just
encourage
the
applicant
to
reach
out
to
salvage
organizations
for
this
property
if
they're
not
planning
to
salvage
materials
themselves
before
the
demo.
I
think
there
are
some
materials
from
reviewing
the
photos
that
salvage
organizations
would
be
interested
in,
so
I
I
would
recommend
that
to.
G
The
applicant
yes,
we
will,
we
will
definitely
do
that.
I
think
I
think
we're
out
we're
ready
to
start
moving
forward
with
with
everything
and
then
working
with
you
guys
to
get
a
plan
for
post
and
for
the
future.
B
C
A
C
Aye
aye
motion
to
declare
the
action
is
unlisted.
C
D
D
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No.
Will
the
proposed
action
excuse
me
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
effect
as
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impact
existing
public
private
water
supplies,
public
private
wastewater
treatment
utilities?
No,
will
the
proposed?
D
Well
sorry:
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
importance,
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
natural
resources,
wetland,
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna?
No
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems?
D
C
B
Hi
motion
passed
john.
B
D
C
C
Yeah,
I
hate
to
have
to
get
house
broken
again:
okay,
criteria
for
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition.
The
commission's
determination
of
historic
significance
shall
be
based
on
the
following
considerations,
which
are
based
on
the
united
states
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
for
historic
preservation.
C
If
the
structure
is
an
outstanding
example
of
a
structure
or
memorial
representative
of
its
error,
either
past
or
present,
or
if
the
structure
is
one
of
the
few
remaining
examples
of
past
architectural
style
or
combination
of
styles
or
if
the
structure
is
associated
with
a
historical
person
or
event
of
significance
to
the
city,
region,
state
or
nation,
finding
none,
I
would
make
a
motion
of
no
historical
significance
demo.
It.
B
All
right,
second,
please.
G
A
There
we
go
okay
and
final
item
on
the
formal
agenda
is
117
murray
street,
which
is
for
the
demolition
of
a
garage.
The
applicant
is
rob
paltz
and
they
have
reached
out
and
they
are
seeking
that
determination
of
no
historic
significance.
A
B
C
Are
we
gonna
be
need
a
motion
b,
lead
agency.
A
Yes,
we
do
have
to
go
through
that
again.
I
just
wanna,
you
know
I'll.
B
Yeah
make
a
motion
to
claire
caught
his
lead
agency.
B
H
I
can
hear
you
I'm
the
contractor,
I'm
not
rob,
but
oh
okay.
He
just
wanted
me
to
be
in
there
with
him.
H
No,
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
that's
pretty
much
everything
they
were
just
worried.
You
know
because
they
got
a
fine
for
it
being
you
know
unhabitable
or
whatever
it
is
so
they
just
wanted
to
tear
it
down,
but
they
had
to
go
through
the
historic
process.
First,
so.
C
A
D
D
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
if
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
D
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impact
existing
public,
slash,
private
water
supplies,
public
private
water,
waste,
water
treatment
utilities?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources?
No,
you
can
move
it
up.
D
E
D
The
proposed
act
did
I
read
that
one
did
I
read
the
flora
and
fauna,
I
don't
think
so.
Okay
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
a
diverse
change
to
natural
resources,
wetlands,
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna?
No
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health?
No,
I
make
a
motion
to
declare
a
negative
declarat
to
have
a
negative
declaration.
B
B
B
Okay,
we
made
the
motion
motion
passes
there.
We
go
okay,
okay,.
A
A
I
do
not,
and
if
any
of
the
commission
members
have
any
other
business
items,
you
should
have
all
received
reappointment
letters.
So,
if
you
haven't,
let
me
know
I.