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00:00 Call to Action
01:50 209 State Street
10:20 17 Murray Street
18:30 17 Front Street
34:00 209 State Street — Amends
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A
All
right
so
anyway
welcome
to
the
may
3rd
cod
meeting
commissioners,
president
ken
ellsworth
mick,
dan,
john
and
and
mike
so
we
have
a
quorum
sean.
Would
you
go
through
the
call-in
requirements?
If
someone
wants
to.
B
Yes,
so
if
anybody
would
like
to
join
the
meeting
today
via
phone,
you
can
dial
up
the
number
1929-205-6099.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
First
order
of
business
is
approval
of
the
april
fifth
minutes.
So
I
have
a
motion.
D
A
Hi
unanimous,
thank
you
sean.
Are
we
changing
order
of
the
agenda
today
or
staying
with
what
we
have
currently.
B
Yes,
so
2
9
state
street,
this
is
an
application
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
and
the
applicant
in
this
case
is
charlie
ackerman
for
bingo
rento
ackerman
re.
B
It's
a
four
store
building
and
the
applicant
intends
to
convert
it
to
contain
nine
additional
dwelling
units,
a
general
retail
space
and
a
studio,
slash
gallery
space
as
well,
there's
a
number
of
alterations
that
are
proposed
as
part
of
the
general
rehabilitation,
and
that
includes
the
windows
being
rehabilitated
in
some
places
and
replaced
in
others,
some
changes
to
the
garage
doors
on
the
west
facade
and
then
also
on
the
primary
facade.
B
Obviously,
the
storefront
will
also
be
rehabilitated.
There
will
be
painting
throughout
and
there's
also
going
to
be
brick
masonry
cleaning.
This
project
is
going
for
historic
tax
credits,
so
it's
also
being
reviewed
by
by
shippo
from
the
presentation
that
the
applicant
provided
oh
wrong,
order.
There
we
go
you.
E
B
That
this
is
a
rehabilitation,
that's
proposed
and
is
completely
consistent
with
our
design
guidelines.
I
mean
it
pretty
much
me
just
meets
our
guidelines
to
a
t
I'll
just
go
through
this.
I
asked
the
applicant
for
a
little
bit
more
detail,
particularly
on
the
west
elevation,
which
backs
onto
an
alleyway
an
accessible
alleyway
on
the
rear
of
many
of
the
commercial
blocks
along
state
street.
B
But
given
that
it's
a
little
bit
more
visible
than
than
what's
traditionally
expected
with
commercial
road
buildings,
I
wanted
to
find
out
a
little
bit
more
about
the
arrangement
of
the
windows
that
were
going
to
be
replacing
the
garage
door
here.
I'll
just
go
through
that.
I
was
able
to
provide
some
historic
photos
of
the
primary
facade
as
well
to
the
applicant
that
you
may
have
caught
elise,
and
I
were
just
conversing
about
that
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
we'll
just
go
through.
B
And
then
this
is
the
garage
door
that
will
be
removed
and
you
can
see
the
lintels
of
the
former
window.
Openings
are
located
here
and
so
those
as
proposed
those
window
openings
will
replace
the
garage
door
opening
here.
B
F
I
think
sean
did
a
great
job
summarizing
the
the
project
and
I
don't
think
I
have
anything
else
to
add,
except
to
say
that
the
transom
on
the
front
will
go
back
to
the
original
transom
size.
F
But
everything
else
is
either
a
restoration
of
what's
existing
or
replacement
in
kind.
So
the
whole
exterior
really
should
look
like
it
is.
It
was
originally.
F
Yes,
there's
a
garage
door
there
that
was
there
very
early
on
and
the
but
the
original
transom
we're
gonna
take
across
at
the
original
height,
so
that
the
the
trains
and
windows
can
be
yeah.
There.
You
go.
F
A
couple
of
photographs
we'll
go
back
to
the
original
size,
but
we're
really
excited
about
what
this
will
do
to
the
you
know
can
continue
to
grow
the
restoration
effort
that
you're
currently
embarked
on
and
on
this
on
state
street
and
we're
confident
that
this
will
be
a
contributing
building
to
that
effort
and
we're
very
excited
to
have
a
project
that
we're
doing
in
binghamton
as
well.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
D
No,
I
I
like
I
like
what
they've
done.
I
like
the
color
arrangement,
and
I
think
I
agree,
it'll
it'll
tie
in
really
nicely
to
to
what's
been
done
there
on
state
street.
A
And
I
didn't
mean
to
sidestep
any
of
our
non-licensed
architects,
john
mike.
C
I
think
it's
pretty
sharp.
Is
there
any
means
of
the
southern
front,
facade
door,
maybe
coming
into
the
center
next
to
the
garage
with
the
window
on
the
side,
just
to
give
it
some
symmetry
aligned
with
the
other
side
of
the
building,
we
have
the
door
centered.
F
Well,
because
it's
a
historic
preservation,
tax
credit
project
we
have,
we
have
to
follow
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
and
the
standards
require
us
to
go
back
either
to
the
or
to
maintain
the
original
configuration.
That's
it's
kind
of
boarded
up
now,
but
that's
why
we've
gone
with
that.
So
it's
a
good
question.
B
A
Okay,
entertain
a
motion.
C
Motion
to
accept
the
is
this
just
going
to
be
for
the
facade
and
the
colors
that's
presented
on
this
swing.
Are
we
doing
the
back
of
the
building?
Also,
are
there
separates
here?
You
combine.
B
C
D
G
D
A
B
This
is
an
application
for
17
murray
street.
The
applicant
is
brent
brent.
Can
you
help
me
with
your
last
name?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
get
it
right.
B
That's
what
I
thought
and
he
is
working
with
the
property
owner
of
17
murray
street
and
they're
working
on
two
two
primary
components
for
this.
The
first
is
repair
to
damage
on
a
balcony
and
I'll
just
go
to
that.
B
So
this
is
actually
a
historic
photo
of
that
balcony
and
you'll
see
that
it's
been
altered
since
1981
when
we
get
to
the
existing
conditions,
which
is
here
he's
working
on
doing
some
just
in-kind
repair
to
this
balcony,
to
make
sure
that
it
doesn't
suffer
any
more
damage
or
result
in
some
sort
of
collapse,
and
so
he's
going
to
be
doing
repair
to
that.
B
And
then,
additionally,
the
property
owner
is
proposing
to
paint
all
elevations
of
of
the
house
and
the
paint
colors
are
pretty
consistent
with
our
guidelines
and
they're,
pretty
consistent
with
the
existing
colors
on
the
house.
But
the
existing
colors
have
faded
somewhat.
So
the
two
colors
that
have
been
proposed
are
shown
on
the
screen
here
with
this
darker
navel
and
then
needlepoint
navy,
and
then
we
were
discussing.
B
I
was
discussing
this
morning
with
brent
what
his
proposal
for
any
of
the
trim
was
for
painting
the
trim,
and
I
believe
he
has
that
information
ready
for
the
commission.
Now.
A
Okay,
thanks
brett
did
you
want
to
add
anything
else
to
what
sean's
presented.
E
No
we're
just
gonna
leave
everything
as
is,
but
the
the
balcony
on
the
left-hand
side
has
suffered
like
tremendous
floor
rot.
So
the
water
is
just
pouring
through
to
the
first
floor,
so
we
wanna
repair
that
and
have
that
no
longer
drain,
give
it
a
slight
elevation,
so
it'll
roll
off
and
then
keep
everything
the
same
and
then
the
colors
it
just
needs
a
lot
of
the
cedar.
E
Shake
is
in
probably
on
his
last
leg,
so
we
want
to
go
through
and
seal
and
and
just
get
it
a
nice
dark.
Blue
color
that'll,
complement.
C
I
think
that
balcony
is
going
to
take
like
just
about
a
total
structural
replacement.
When
you
start
tearing
into
it,
you
can
see
where
it's
bowed.
There's
been
a
lot
of
water
and
ice
damage
there
through
the
years.
E
E
E
C
A
C
B
Can
you
just
when
you
get
a
chance
just
submit
that
the
trim
color?
Yes.
B
Yeah
17
front
street:
I
am
not
seeing
the
applicant
for
17
front
street
on
and
I
know
that
they
were
planning
to
attend.
So
if
you
can
just
give
me
one
second,
ken,
I'm
gonna
give
him
a
quick
call.
A
B
C
C
C
A
D
C
D
A
Something
it
was
pretty
big,
john.
C
C
C
Yeah,
I
think
it
would
have
been
pretty
impressive,
but
you
know
you
never
know
it
could
have
been
a
shack.
I
mean.
B
All
right,
I
have,
I
have
bishop
simpson
on
the
phone
here
and
he's
just
connecting
through
my
office.
Actually,
so
you
should
be
able
to
hear
them.
A
B
You
about
10
years
ago,
11,
10
years
ago.
You
reviewed
this
for
the
as
the
local
landmark
actually.
A
Oh
okay,
okay,
and-
and
do
you
know
in
your-
maybe
you
didn't
do
history
on
this-
was
there
ever
a
different
like
residential
structure
on
this
corner?
There.
B
B
It
was,
it
was
a
greek
revival
house.
B
B
Yep
so
again-
and
I
think
I
heard
you
guys
discussing
it-
this
is
an
application
with
the
applicant
new
heights
ministries
for
proposed
exterior
alterations
and
repair
to
the
religious
facility
here,
the
ramp,
which
actually
doesn't
have
cod
approval
on
record,
because
I
believe
it
was
installed
before
the
building
was
a
local
landmark
based
on
the
photographs.
B
I
have
is
going
to
be
removed
there,
along
that
western
elevation
and
in
its
place,
is
going
to
be
a
a
chairlift
essentially,
and
that
chairlift
will
connect
to
a
new
bridge
over
the
stairway
to
the
main
entrance,
usually
with
the
chairlifts.
We
prefer
them
on.
You
know
secondary
elevations
that
are
not
primarily
visible
from
the
public
right
away,
but
in
this
case
it's
a
little
challenging
given
the
interior
configuration.
B
This
is
being
reviewed
by
by
the
state.
I
submitted
that
information
to
them
and
we
don't
have
a
decision
just
yet,
but
I
think
we
will
in
a
short
period
of
time,
so
normally
I'd
like
to
have
the
shipper
review
completed
before
it
comes
to
you
guys,
but
that
wasn't
possible
in
this
case
the
the
chairlift
is
not
going
to
be
or
somewhat
concealed
behind
the
existing
tree.
B
The
tree
will
have
to
be
trimmed
a
little
bit
for
the
chairlift
and
there's
also
going
to
have
to
be
the
installation
of
a
concrete
pad
and
a
little
bit
of
a
connector
from
the
semicircular,
a
sidewalk
that
connects
to
the
public
right
away.
D
B
Because
it
roughly
conforms
to
the
placement
of
the
stair
well
currently,.
C
I'm
just
going
to
add
a
little
comment
here.
I've
had
some
experiences
with
similar
type
of
lifts
going
back
and,
although
they
they
put
forth
through
it
being
all
weather
generally
after
a
couple
seasons,
it's
it's
almost
a
necessity
to
have
some
form
of
a
covering
or
housing
over
it
just
because
of
the
weather
and
the
ice
in
this
area.
That
makes
them
sometimes
dysfunctional,
and
I
think
the
church
should
be
looking
at
that
going
forward
and
or
we
should
have
some
consideration
at
this
time-
lifts
don't
work
real
good.
A
C
B
A
D
B
Wheelchair
list
is
that
what
he's
saying
yes
yeah,
we
do
not
have
that
number
one
we're
not
working
with
anyone.
I
sent
you
showing
pictures.
G
B
A
B
This
is
the
this
is
the
proposal.
This
is
the
exact
lift.
A
G
A
G
The
wheelchair
lift
comes
in
different
rises.
If
you
would
they
adjusted
depending
on
how
high
you
need
to
go
or
how
low
it
needs
to
go.
So
I
don't
have
the
exact
footage,
but
based
on
where
the
ramp
is
going
to
connect
with
the
wheelchair
lift,
which
is
how
high
it's
going
to
go
again.
G
G
At
about
that,
so
when,
whenever
wherever
the
wheelchair
lift
comes
up
and
they
open
the
gate
to
wheel
out
onto
the
ramp,
the
ramp
will
be
right
there,
so
it'll
be
a
smooth
transition
from
the
wheelchair
lift
onto
the
ramp
and
vice
versa,
coming
from
the
ramp
back
into
the
wheelchair
lift
to
go
down
onto
the
ground.
So
again
I
apologize.
I
don't
have
exact
footage,
but
it
will
be
the
both
ramp
and
wheel.
Trailers
will
be
even
at
the
top.
B
A
C
Yeah-
and
I
think
we
need
to-
can
we
compartmentalize
this
and
maybe
push
the
bricks
through,
because
that's
something
needs
to
be
done
and
they
could
probably
get
started
on
that
and
give
us
a
more
comprehensive
view
of
the
lift,
maybe
even
special
session.
A
A
G
E
G
A
D
B
G
Someone
said
just
a
few
moments
ago
about
cover
over
the
the
wheelchair,
lift
this
particular
wheelchair
lift
that
we
picked
out
or
decided
to
go
with
is
made
specifically
for
the
outside
number
one,
and
it's
made
to
withstand
the
weather
via
snow
sleet,
sun
rain.
This
particular
one
is
made
for
that
purpose
and
with
the
materials
and
everything
the
floor
has
a
slip
guard
on
it,
so
that
you
know
it.
You
won't.
A
A
Okay
and
I,
I
think
the
point
that
we're
trying
to
make
is
hopefully
that
you
know
that's
the
case
and
and
you'll
have
a
good
experience
with
it
putting
a
covering
over.
It
brings
in
a
whole
nother
element
in
the
review.
A
A
So
john
back
to
your
thought,
I
I
think
it's
good
to
get
something
moving
forward,
so
the
the
masonry
restoration
probably
could
be
a
motion
with
a
suggestion
of
something
simple,
photoshop
elevation.
A
C
I
I
do
I
get
a
free
cup
of
coffee.
If
I
bring
my
own
dollar
and
a
quarter.
B
Just
also
make
sure
that
whatever
your
motion
is,
it
also
mentions
that
it
should
it
should
comport
with
the
state's
finding
as
well
when
that's
issued.
C
Well
I'll
take
a
stab
at
it.
What
what
is
the
physical
address?
I
know
it's
the
corner
front,
riverside
it's
17
front,
17
front.
C
Thank
you
motion
to
accept
the
proposal
for
the
restoration
preservation
of
the
masonry
in
kind
417
front
street,
as
proposed,
and
also
a
motion
to
accept
the
lift,
as
proposed
with
an
addendum
that
we
would
like
to
see
some
photoshop
of
its
actual
appearance
against
the
side
of
the
building
for
final
approval
to
that
and
with
a
strong,
strong
recommendation
to
consider
a
covering,
and
that
has
to
do
with
past
experience.
With
these
things
out
in
the
weather
it
may
have
to
slip
through
the
floor
may
have
a
lot
of
things.
C
We
live
in
binghamton
new
york,
three
foot
of
snow
bunches
of
ice,
it's
been
there
done
that
and
the
covering
would
would
change
my
my
outlook
on
this.
A
little
bit.
I'd
have
to
see
it
and
yeah.
That's
my
motion
somewhere
in
there.
D
I'll
I'll,
second,
that
thank
you.
D
B
All
right,
thank
you,
bishop
since
then
I'll
be
in
touch
later
today.
F
F
We
we
had
a
second
there's,
an
issue
with
the
exiting,
and
we
had
a
second
proposal
for
a
door
out
the
back
and
I
wondered:
can
we
can
we
make
sure
that
that's
approved
as
well?
In
case
we
have
to
use
that
option.
B
Yes,
is
that
shown
help
me
out
here?
Sorry,
I
didn't
actually
pull
up,
but
I
can
the
plans
that
were
submitted
to
the
planning
commission,
for
this
is
that
what
you're
talking
about?
I
remember
that
yes,
okay,
hold
on
one
second
I'll,
pull
that
out.
B
G
F
B
G
F
Okay,
so
there
was
a
so
it
looks
like
there's
more
though
there
should
be
looks
like
there's
both
options
for
the
floor
plans.
Can
you
go
maybe
to
sheet
number
eight.
F
So
in
sheet
number
eight
you
see
that
there
is
a
door
there's
there's
an
option
for
a
second
way
of
egress.
F
Basically,
because
charlie
has
an
easement
for
use
of
both
stairways
on
the
left
and
the
right
of
his
building
and
what
they
they
don't
want
him
to
use
it
so
he's
currently
in
legal
discussion
with
them
about
that.
But
if
that,
if
that
doesn't
prove
to
be,
if
something
doesn't
work
out,
we
had.
This
is
an
alternate
option
which
is
taking
one
of
the
doors
or
sorry
one
of
the
windows
and
converting
it
to
a
door,
and
it
takes
out
one
bedroom.
F
F
The
bottom
right
hand
window-
I
don't
know
why
we
didn't
send
it
to
you
the
bottom
right
hand.
Window
would
then
therefore
be
a
door
and
it
would
be
at
grade
so
it
would
be
converted
into
a
yes,
so
they
would
have
a
transom
above
and
a
full
like
glass
door,
if
that's
option
b,
if
the
other
option
doesn't
work
out,
do
I
I'm
not
sure
why
that
wasn't
submitted
to
you?
But
how
do
I
go
about
making
sure
that
that's
an
okay
thing.
B
I
think,
as
long
as
you
know,
if
I
think
the
commission,
if
they,
if
you
submit
it,
they
can
sort
of
condition
their
approval
upon
your
submission
of
that.
F
Okay,
so
we'll
send
you
another
drawing,
I'm
not
sure
as
again
again,
I'm
very
sorry
that
we
didn't
send
it
along
to
you,
but
we'll
send
you
that,
drawing
with
the
the
doorway
there
and
do
do,
we
then
need
to
go
in
front
of
you
again
or
just
submit
it
in
the
next
day
or
so.
B
I
think,
if
the
commission's
comfortable,
that
they
could,
they
could
do
in
a
sort
of
similar
capacity
to
the
to
the
last
application.
F
G
C
F
C
F
Exactly
okay,
that's
exactly
the
case,
so
the
door
will
be
lower
and
there
won't
be
any
because
the
land
is
not
his,
but
the
code
allows
you
to
have
a
door
that
empties
out
onto
that
space.
We
won't
be
built.
We
wouldn't
in
this
case.
In
this
scenario,
we
wouldn't
be
building
any
platform
at
all.
It
would
just
empty
out
directly:
okay,
okay,
okay,
I'm
sorry
about
that
glitch,
but
we'll
get
that
off
to
you
shortly.
A
F
A
A
G
D
I
I
agree
so
ken
I
agree
with
john.
I
think
we
should
see
a
drawing
that
represents
that
plan
of
of
action.
A
Elise
does
that
affect
your
schedule
to
have
that
presented
at
the
next
meeting,
or
is
that
that
effect,
production
of
something
I'm.
F
Afraid
it
might,
but
I
don't
know
how
else
to
handle
it.
C
B
G
C
Email
we
could
do
a
special
session
or
something
I'm
not
opposed
to
it,
but
I
just
want
to
see
it.
I
think,
there's
more
than
enough
to
get
started
on
that.
This
would
be
of
secondary
importance
with
regard
to
going
forward
with
the
project.
A
Sean
is
it
something
that
we
can
circulate
via
email,
or
do
you
think
it's
substantial
enough
to
warrant
the
next
meeting.
B
I
think
that
you
could
do
the
the
circulation
as
long
as
you
know,
unless
there's
like
substantial
comments
that
the
applicant
you
know
on
the
the
circulation
of
the
imagery
that
the
that
the
commission
has
that
the
applicant
can't
address,
then
I
think
it
would
warrant
going
to
another
meeting.
But
I
think
if,
if
it's
circulated
and
the
commission,
you
know,
expresses
their
content
with
that.
I
think
it
can
be
encapsulated
into
the
motion.
A
D
C
A
A
Okay,
sean
back
to
other
business.
Anything.
B
B
D
B
C
You
know
just
something
I
touched
with
sean
the
other
day.
Talking
with
him,
I
would
want
to
revisit
some
local
landmark
stuff
and
back
in
my
mind.
Right
now
is
sun
briar
court,
which
is
the
riverside
drive
property.
The
kilmer's
had
the
horses
at
that's
kind
of
getting
engulfed
by
the
parking
lots
from
lords
hospital
next
to
the
unitarian
church.
C
There's
a
couple
others
in
town.
I
think
we
should
get
a
little
proactive
on
this
this
year
to
see
if
we
can't
get
them
listed
before
something
happens.
A
Okay,
it
also
reminds
me
last
time
we
had
a
question
about
security.
E
C
One
other
quick
question
sean.
I
know
that
the
old
masonic
temple
on
main
street
is
kind
of
in
a
state
of
stasis.
Does
what
happened
on
that
facade?
Is
that
going
to
come
before
us?
I
mean
I
consider
it
a
historical
building.
B
It
is
a
historical
building
and
anything
that's
done
to
it
should
come
to
you
it's
also.
Now
a
national
register
listed
building,
so
it
it
should
anything
that
is
down
to
the
exterior
needs
to
come
before
the
commission.
Okay,
as
long
as
that
work
is
permitted.
G
C
A
Okay
motion
to
adjourn.