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A
C
A
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
We
have
a
quorum
in
place
for
Budget
review
in
consort
with
chapter
26
of
the
city.
Charter
I
at
this
time
will
relinquish
relinquish
the
chair
to
Chairman
scanland
to
lead
the
budget.
D
E
F
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
The
budget
is
very
similar
to
last
year.
There's
the
usual
cost
increases
contractual
increases,
do
Personnel
and
we
also
have
additional
expenses
for
maintenance
cost
and
for
the
new
Fire
headquarters
and
capital
costs
for
equipment
and
fire
apparatus.
So
the
total
operational
budget
for
next
year
would
be
8,829.
Oh
that's
just.
F
It's
it's
fairly
costly,
it's
about
$19,000,
to
maintain
all
the
new
equipment
which
is
you
know
it's
a
lot
of
green
energy
equipment,
it's
very
efficient
and
it
needs
to
be
carefully
maintained,
and
but
that
was
one
of
the
major
increases
in
the
operational
budget.
G
F
Several
capital
projects,
including
engine
one
for
the
souths
side
and
a
new
ladder
tower
now
engine
one
is
a
2004
suben
and
it
has
92,000
miles
on
it
in
about
9,000
hours.
So
if
you
calculate
that
it's
about
452,000
miles
this,
this
apparatus
has
each
hour
you
accounts
for
about
40
miles,
that's
how
they
calculate
it.
So
that's
something
that
could
be
purchased
next
year.
F
F
So
that's
about
400,000
miles,
total
on
that
on
that
apparatus
and
it'll
be
three
years
and
in
three
or
four
years
till
we
get
the
new
one,
so
you're
going
to
have
all
that
additional
wear
and
tear
on
it
by
the
time
we
get
it,
and
but
anyway,
those
are
the
highlights
right
there
do.
You
have
any.
H
Thank
you,
yeah
interim
president
skin.
How
do
I
address.
I
H
B
H
Chairman
scandin
all
right,
thank
you,
Chief
Gardner
for
being
here,
and
thank
you
also
to
Chuck
and
Lori.
Unsurprisingly,
I
have
some
questions
of.
H
Right
so
I
am
wondering
if
you
could
explain
the
difference
in
the
distribution
of
the
different
firefighter
grades
from
from
this
year
to
or
from
last
year
to
this
year,
I
noticed,
for
example,
there
are
no
grade
two
firefighters.
Last
year
there
were
no
grade
three
firefighters.
What
is
what's
going
on
with
the
distribution
there.
H
F
Yeah,
well
that's
from
the
new
the
newer
hires.
G
When
we
hire
someone
they
come
in
at
a
grade,
five:
okay,
that's
their
lowest.
Actually,
they
started
a
probation
status.
Then
they
go
up
to
a
grade
one
after
one
year
grade
two
so
next
year,
there's
nobody!
That's
in
a
grade,
two,
okay,
that
just
based
off
of
the
people
that
were
hired
probably
like
four
years
ago.
G
If
you
look
down
at
the
very
low
last
item,
there
there's
a
negative
104,
those
are
so
we're
putting
the
salaries
in
at
the
full
salary.
But
we
know
these
people
won't
go
to
that
rate
until
either
April
May
June.
So
we
calculate
that
and
put
in
a
negative
for.
H
That
my
next
question
is:
can
you
explain
what
outof
title
means?
That's
a
budget
line
the
last
one
on
page
62,
62.
F
Sure
out
of
title
is
it's
a
contractual
item
and
if
say
a
a
firefight
who's
a
you
know
grade
one
is
doing
the
work
of
a
lieutenant
that
day
he
gets
compensated
for
that
for
the
differential.
I
G
Right
correct
an
example
would
be
if
someone's,
sick
or
sick
day
vacations
over
someone
has
to
cover
that
position.
H
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you.
I'm
now,
looking
on
page
63
and
there's
a
few
items
that
I
had
questions
about,
the
the
overtime
is
increased
significantly.
Is
that
contractual
as.
F
Well,
no,
that's
not
contractual
they.
Just
in
the
Years
there
there
you
know,
there's
been
a
bit
of
a
maybe
a
shortfall,
but
there's
a
there's.
A
lot
of
reasons
for
to
increase.
There's
a
lot
of
variables,
with
firefighters
being
injured,
things
that
create
overtimers
like
vacation,
personal
leave,
maternity
leave,
leave
for
the
union
reps,
which
is
contractual
sick
time.
Work
related
injuries
play
Leave
Act.
You
know
they
go
out
training.
F
They
go
out
of
town
to
like
Montour
Falls
that
might
generate
over
time,
death
in
a
family
and
sometimes
unfilled
positions.
If
they
they
happen
during
the
year,
will
cause
Personnel
sh
shortfalls,
which
will
have
to
be
back
filled
with
over.
G
Time,
councilwoman
Freeman:
we
have
been
consistently
budgeted
like
$400,000
a
year
and
come
down
here
and
ask
for
modifications
which
you'll
get
on
Monday.
Okay,
there's
one
coming
down
for
this
Monday
we're
hoping
that
550,000.
We
don't
have
to
do
this
next
year,
okay,
and
basically
one
of
the
main
reason
for
overtime
is
they
have
to
have
so
many
people
working
on
a
ship.
Okay,
if
there's
someone
that's
calls
in
sick
or
is
on
vacation,
L
has
to
find
someone
else
from
another
facility
to
go
there
or
bring
someone
in
on
overtime
to
do.
H
H
F
H
60
I
noticed
there
are
some
new
sublines
in
the
travel
and
training
line,
the
paramedic
recertification
and
the
fleet
maintenance
mechanic
training.
Can
you.
F
F
Yep
now
our
our
mechanic
has
certifications
that
have
to
be
renewed
periodically,
so
he's
overdoing
some
and
we're
going
to
send
them
out
next
year.
It's
mostly
in
Ohio,
so
he'll
have
to
travel
and
he'll
have
to
stay
there,
probably
three
or
four
days,
and
so
that's
why
that
was
added
and
some
of
some
of
these
lines
we
just
kind
of
broke
out
and
broke
down.
What
was
the
other
line?
F
You're
asking
about
well
yeah,
yeah,
paramedic
recertifications
is
their
their
monthly
continuing
medical
education
and
so
that
we're
that
money
is
to
pay
the
instructors
to
come
in
and
and
teach
the
course.
H
And
why
why
hasn't
that
been
or
why
wasn't
that
in
last
year's
budget.
F
I'm
not
sure
if
we
had
it,
we
might
have
had
it
lumped
in
with
tuition
or
something
but
I'd
like
to
see
it
broken
out.
So
I
can
track
it
track
it
better.
Throughout
the
year.
L
Okay,
on
page
218,
under
the
fire
section
we
have,
we
are
going
to
remove
the
rescue
boat.
L
D
A
Mr
chairman
I'll
make
a
motion
for
page
218
for
the
fire
section
to
eliminate
the
$40,000
rescue
Boat
Line.
B
E
Sorry,
okay,
so
let's,
let's
go
back
to
the
fire
rescue
boat,
all
in
favor
of
removing
that
from
the
fire
line.
K
E
I'll
take
a
motion
to
approve
the
fire
section
with
amendments
please
so
moved
I
need
a
second
all
in
favor
I.
Anyone
oppose
thank
you.
Chief
appreciate
it.
E
Chief
all
right:
let's
proceed
to
the
treasurers
department
and
let's
open
page
20
and
21
and
227.
Please.
E
Pleas
just
highlight
the
the
significant
changes
please.
M
There
really
aren't
too
many
significant
changes.
Oh
there
really
aren't
too
many
significant
changes.
There
are
some
there's
a
small
change
in
personal
services.
That's
just
based
on
contractual
obligations
a
little
bit
of
overtime
this
year.
That's
not
in
the
budget.
For
next
year,
let's
see
office,
the.
M
Same
everything,
yeah
everything
stays
the
same.
E
All
right
questions
for
M,
fores,
Please.
A
Mr
chairman,
thank
you,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
this
is
a
question
for
Jennifer
the
Jennifer
great
to
see
you
by
the
way
or
Corp
Council
so
I'm
glad
to
see
under
in
the
mayor's
budget
under
a1210
51
tri0
at
the
top
of
16,
so
the
deputy
mayor
title
has
been
inserted
and
the
executive
assistant
to
the
mayor
title
has
been
Treasures
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
a
shut.
K
K
M
Okay,
yep,
so
I
added
a
$500
meter,
tampering
fee
and
I,
also
added
$5
to
each
of
the
turn
on
fees.
The
$50
fee
is
now
55.
100
is
now
105,
that
is
to
offset
the
cost
of
mailing
certified
letters
to
those
accounts
that
are
shut
off.
E
E
One,
it
was
in
your
box
in
your
box.
Does
anybody
not
have
it
because
we
can
take
a
second
and
go
down
and
get.
K
E
M
Yep,
no,
that's
all
right!
I
added
a
$500
fee
for
tampering
with
the
meter
water
meters
and
also
$5
to
each
of
the
turnon
fees
to
offset
the
expense
of
mailing
certified
letters
to
those
customers
who
haven't.
H
Thank
you,
chairman
scanland,
so
my
question
is:
do
these
these
bills
typically
get
sent
to
the
address
where,
let's
say,
if
it's
a
landlord
where
the
tenants
live
or
does
the
do
these
go
to
the
landlord
so.
M
Two
copies
go
out:
one
gets
posted
to
the
property
for
anyone
who
lives
at
the
property
and
then
the
the
same
exact
letter
gets
mailed
to
the
billing
address
on
file
and
that's
what
goes.
H
M
H
E
227,
all
in
favor,
I
I
anyone
oppose
thank
you,
Jennifer,
we're
all
set.
Thank
you
all
right,
open
page
81,
82
83
through
86
87,
88,
89,
92,
93,
94
and
218
and
219,
and
welcome
Mr
beinus.
N
Good
good,
so
we
don't
have
a
ton
of
huge
changes.
Obviously,
some
of
our
Personnel
Services
are
up
with
the
new
Teamsters
contract
that
went
in
last
year.
The
only
other
real
big
change
is
at
the
senior
center.
We
have
added
a
new
full-time
position
there,
that
is,
the
pay
is
being
funded
by
broom.
B
N
That'd
be
page
93,
the
salary
is
covered
by
broom
county
office
for
aging.
Will
you
know,
give
us
that
$33,000
back
and
then
we
pay,
for
you,
know
Healthcare
and
benefits
of
the
position.
It
was
a
part-time
position
that
was
a
County
employee.
N
They
asked
if
we
would
be
interested
in
making
it
a
full
35h
hour
week
position
under
the
parks
department
versus
having
two
different
agencies.
You
know
having
employees
in
the
building
and
I
thought
it
was
a
a
good
win
for
us
to
have
more
staff
and
more
hours
available
for
for
covering
the
senior.
N
Yeah
218
is
a
lot
of
contractual
payments
we
make
for
our
lease
agreements,
so
Discovery
Center,
Ross
Park,
and
then
there
are,
you
know
some
stuff.
We
do
yearly
that,
ideally
we
don't
spend
it
all
every
year,
so
it
will
roll
over.
So
those
numbers
are
a
little
bit
lower
than
it
would
be.
If
we
took
a
you
know
full
amount
every
year
and
then
we're
replacing
two
of
our
pickup
trucks
this
year
that
are
basically
at
the
end
of
their
life.
They'll
be
snowplow.
N
Vehicles,
be
the
big
things
and.
N
29,
we
have
a
trail.
We
have
a
grant
match
in
there
some
money
to
fix
up
some
various
basketball
and
Tennis
Courts,
our
portion
for
the
Ross
Park
carousel
project
and
a
set
aside
to
finish
the
parks
garage
foundation,
repairs
at
our
I'm
ongoing.
As
we.
A
Chairman,
yes,
thank
you,
hey
Pat,
thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening
for
the
new
full-time
position
at
the
senior
center,
which
is
a
great
idea.
Just
out
of
curiosity
who's.
The
primary
employer
of
that
person
is
the
the
city
of
Binghamton,
or
is
it
broom
county.
N
It
was
broom
county,
it
will
now
become
city
of
Bingington,
so
we'll
hire
the
person
who
was
in
the
role
previously
has
left
for
a
different
role
in
the
county.
So
we'll
have
a
you
know
clean
slate
to
pick
for
from
not
that
she
was
a
bad
employer.
B
N
A
Also
Mr
chairman
I'd,
like
to
make
a
motion
on
the
park
session,
Park
section
of
page
218
to
add
a
line
for
$3,000
for
the
purposes
of
AE.
B
O
Mr
chairman,
how
are
you
Pat
good?
How
about
yourself.
N
O
Good
I
see
a
few
subtle
changes
that
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
are
clear
about
on
page
83
I
know
you
talked
about
buying
new
equipment,
but
there's
almost
a
it's,
not
a
significant
drop,
but
we
spent
a
lot
and
we
heard
a
lot
about
equipment,
repairs
and
the
like
for
parks
and
for
for
the
the
things
we
use
within
this
department
and
now
you're
requesting
$8,000
less.
Do
we
think?
Because
we
brought
the
new
equipment
in
the
previous
year?
We
will
not
need
the
additional
repairs
and
the
like
is
or.
N
Is
that
is
correct?
That
line
from
23
is
also
showing
we
transferred
in
some
money
for
some
projects
and.
B
N
Had
some
carryover
from
20122
that
was
outstanding,
so
some
of
that
showing,
but
we're
in
you
know,
knock
on
wood.
You
know
pretty
good
shape
going
into
next
year
that,
hopefully
I'm
not
constantly
coming.
O
Back
yes,
okay,
awesome,
awesome
and
then
similarly
subtle
changes
in
Professional
Services.
Oh,
oh,
no,
I
skipped
one
I'm,
sorry!
So
chemicals.
N
Yes
again,
a
big
leap
and
I'm
G
to
be
back
shortly
with
so
liquid
chlorine.
If
you
remember,
last
year,
I
came
back
more
money
raised
the
price
significantly
or
the
budget
significantly
in
23,
and
then
they
raised
the
price
of
liquid
chlorine
way
up
again.
So
this
is
showing
you
know,
hopefully
what
we
can
use
to
get
through
the
year
with
the
new
pricing
it's
gone
up
from,
like
you
know,
a
dollar
and
a
quarter
two
years
ago
to
almost
five
dollar
a
gallon.
Now.
N
Yes,
yeah
that
was
coming,
I
talked
with
amra,
they
said
instead
of
you
know
me
doing
this
six
times.
Can
we
just
wait
till
the
pools
are
closed
and
then
get
it
all.
N
O
I'll
be
back
all
right,
that's
that
helps
tremendously
and
then.
Finally,
if
on
page
86,
we
noticed
another
significant
decrease
where
we
encumbered
67,000,
but
we're
only
proposing
in
a
$14,000
budget,
so
parks
and
Improvement
in
maintenance
was
that
tied
into.
N
That
was
we
transferred
money
this
year
for
some
large
project.
I,
don't
know
it
off.
The
top
of
my
head.
I
can
shoot
you
an
email
what
it
is,
but
we
went
in
last
year
with
146.
It
might
have
been
something
outstanding,
but
I
can.
O
N
G
N
Waiting,
so
that's
something
we've
always
kept
in
in
case
of
Emer.
If
there's
a
tree,
you
know
we
felt
like
we
couldn't
handle,
you
know
it's
too
big
or
something
with
how
we
restructured
the
department
to
have
double
the
tree
staff
and
just
the
talent
level
of
those
guys.
I
didn't
feel,
like
you
know,
there's
a
tree
in
the
city,
that's
going
to
throw
us
for
a
loop
that
we're
have
to
bring
in
an
outside.
E
H
Please
thank
you,
chairman
scanlin
hi
Pat,
thanks
for
being
here,
okay
I
have
some.
K
N
Sorry,
so
to
answer
councilwoman
Riley's
question:
the
two
one-time
projects
were
a
new
pool
liner
at
MacArthur
Park,
which
is
underway
right
now
and
recoring
all
of
the
locks
in
the
city
parks,
which
is
yeah.
So
that's
why
there
was
a
significant
you
jump
there.
That's
your
one.
H
All
right,
thank
you,
I'm,
so
I'm
like
trying
to
interpret
my
notes,
which
are
sometimes
unreadable
even
though
I'm
the
one
that
wrote
them
so
in
the
Professional
Services
line.
I
noticed
that
the
the
proposed
budget
is
the
same,
but
we
expended
almost
,000
more
do.
Do
you
remember
what
that
was
for
in
Professional,
Services.
N
81
81
was
I,
ended
up
transferring
so
that
AED
money
that
we
just
put
back
in
to
the
capital
I
ended
up
paying
a
servicing
out
of
some
of
that
out
of
that
professional
Services.
H
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
My
next
question
is
on
page
83
I'm,
looking
at
the
personal
services
retention
stipend,
and
this
was
from
arpa.
Evidently,
who
is
eligible
for
that
retention,
stien.
N
So
that
was
contractual
with
the
teamsters
I
believe
it
is
Teamsters
blue
collar
I,
believe
that
is
everyone
who
is
still
with
us.
One
year
after
the
new
contract
was
signed
or
I,
don't
know
the
exact
specific
or
who
stays
a
year.
G
H
H
I'm
never
done
with
question.
Don't
you
know
me
so
on
on
page
83,
what
oh
yeah
in
Disguise,
okay,
so
the
equipment
line
on
page
83
also
has
decreased
significantly?
Can
you
explain.
N
Yeah
that
was
kind
of
what
councilwoman
Riley
asked
was.
N
H
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
Okay,
so
now
I'm
on
page
84,
the
carousel
maintenance
line,
I
noticed
that's
now
budgeted
for
$20,000.
I
N
So
that
used
to
be
in
past
Year's
a
capital
line
that
we
would
you
know
if
we
didn't
spend
it
we'd
Build,
It
Up.
This
is
we
spend
it
every
year,
so
decided
to.
You
know
just
make
it
a
regular
line
item
that
will
cover
wrf
designs
to
come
in
and
do
their
annual.
You
know
if
there's
a
horse
with
a
cracker,
you
know
a
leg
broke.
They
come
in
every
year,
clean
the
whole
ride
clean.
All
the
art
touch
up
anything
that
needs
to
be
done
so
be
for
R.
K
H
Okay
on
and
so
I'm
looking
at
page
87
under
the
last
line
under
temporary
services,
there's
weather
related
closures
and
that's
negative
62,000.
Can
you
explain
that
line?
Please.
N
Yeah,
that's
something
we
do
every
year
with
the
pools
summer
and
the
carousels
I
try
and
sit
on
my
calculator
and
come
up
every
hour.
We're
going
to
be
open
all
summer
long,
try
to
engage
that,
and
then
we
take
a
shot
at
reducing
that
number.
For
we
look
at
the
previous
summer.
You
know
how
many
days
we
were
closed
because
of
you
know:
inclement
weather
things
like
that
and
then
try
and
bring
that
total.
H
G
G
So
if
he
has
a
rain
out,
we're
not
paying
anybody
to
work
that,
so
we
came
up
with
a
formula
if
you
want
to
call
it
that
of
saying
we're
going
to
reduce
we're,
not
going
to
be
open
up
for
75
days,
we're
only
going
to
be
open
for
70,
and
we
put
that
calcul
in.
K
H
Okay,
all
right,
okay,
thank
you
and
I
guess
this
is
a
related
question
on
the
next
page
on
page
88,
there's
then
an
overtime
line
and
underneath
it
says,
overtime
at
the
end
of
the
season
to
keep
the
pools
open.
N
N
So
that
would
be
towards
the
end
of
the
year
as
lifeguards
go
back
to
college
and
start
their
false
Sports
to
try
and
keep
our
pools
right
open
to
Labor
Day.
We
have
a
smaller
pool
of
lifeguards
to
drop
from.
That
would
be
so
we
can
pay
them
to
work
more
than
40
hours
a
week,
so
it
have
to
come
out
of
the
a
separate
line.
H
Unintentional
I
didn't
say
it:
okay,
now
I'm
looking
at
page.
H
N
I
H
Okay-
and
my
next
question
is
the
youth
programming
line
going
from
a
million
dollars
in
our
adjusted
budget
to
being
zeroed
out.
Oh
that's,
arpa
I
see.
N
Yeah,
that
was,
you
know,
run
through
the
mayor's
office
for
not
for
profits.
K
D
N
So
she
usually
does
her
large
two
large
ones.
At
the
end
of
the
year.
She
usually
does
a
like
fall
dinner,
dance
and
then
a
holiday
dinner
dance
so
that
money
should
be
spent
up
before
the
end
of
the
year.
B
E
A
E
N
Yet
so
golf
fund
is.
N
It's
our
you
know,
proposed
budget
is
up
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
some
of
our
Capital
numbers.
Are,
you
know
way
down
now?
We've
gotten
a
lot
of
the
course
work
started,
finished
or
scheduled
and
funded
already
believe.
B
N
So
yeah
we
have
it
we've.
You
know
zeroed
out
so
hopefully
Break
Even
this
year
at
the.
B
G
G
G
P
Yes,
C,
please
thank
you.
Mr.
P
Chairman
just
wondering
so
we're
doing
so
well
up
there.
They
got
some
of
my
money,
M
and
I
love
being
up
there,
but
H.
How
much
is
it
costing
the
city
rather
than
go
through
the
whole
thing
for
me,
which
I've
done
but
just
wondering
how
much
does
it
cost
the
city
to
have
the
golf
course
after
be
taking
all
their
money
and
what
what
we're
spending?
What
do
you
think
it
is.
N
G
That's
what
we're
anticipating
Joel
and
that's
pretty
much
what
it's
been,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
than
that
some
years,
but
that's
what
it's
been
running
about
and
once
we
get
the
fifth
year,
I
think
we're
in
year
three
of
the
paying
for
all
the
equipment
we
bought.
That's
like
$100,000
a
year,
hopefully
we'll
be
close
to
break
even
thank.
O
Thank
you
again,
chairperson,
so
similar
to
councilman
Burn's
question
the
$97
n90
I'm.
Sorry
$997,000
was
what
we
discussed
when
we
talked
about
the
partnership
with
elely
until
we
quote
unquote
break
even
so
that
97
will
come
from
our
fund
balance
for
out
of
General
operations,
not
out
of
out
of
the
fund.
O
I
F
O
So
again,
if
we
had
a
boom
and
we
which
resulted
in
a
$100,000
Surplus-
and
it
was
consistent
enough-
we
would
not
need
to
then
budget.
Thank
you
Lori.
You
got
it
the
first
time.
Thank
you
so
then,
but
we're
projecting
that
we
will
not
break
even
until
we
no
longer
have
to
pay
for
the
new
equipment.
Rental.
K
O
H
Listen,
thank
you
chairman
scanlin.
So
I
am
looking
there.
There
are
a
lot
of
lines
here,
I'm.
Looking
on
page
149,
there
are
a
lot
of
lines
that
seem
to
have
similar
names,
for
example,
Golf,
Course,
Maintenance
expense
and
golf
maintenance,
or
food
and
beverage
expense,
and
then
food
and
beverage
labor
ex
oh
I,
guess
I'm.
Sometimes
when
I
ask
a
question
out
loud
I
answer
my
own
question.
H
B
G
They
attract
how
they
account
for
it
I
think
we
finally
got
it
identified
how
to
budget
for
it
how
to
track
the
expenses.
So
if
you
see
there's
three
different
areas
that
they
really
look
at
managing
is
one
is
the
golf
operations.
One
is
going
to
be
the
food
and
beverage,
one
is
going
to
be
maintenance
and
I'll,
say
equipment's,
the
other
one.
Those
are
the
the
main
areas
that
they
look
at
as
they
doing
it.
G
H
Okay
and
those
are
all
all
of
those
lines
that
you
mentioned-
increase
increased
and
that's
due
to
the
the
management
company
increasing
the.
G
I
K
Q
H
Going
to
steal
councilwoman
Riley's
question:
can
you
just
explain
what
what
we
are
anticipating
and
why
there
are
we
have
not
encumbered
or
expended
any
money
on
this
line.
That's
far.
G
These
are
for
some
of
the
improvements
that
we've
done
on
the
golf
course.
Okay,
so
I'm
just
throwing
out
a
number
and
I
don't
know
the
number
of
top
of
my
head
say:
we've
done
$200,000
worth
of
repairs
up
there.
Now
in
the
past
the
first
year,
you
don't
have
to
pay
any
of
that
money
back
the
second
year
you
do
so
next
year
we
have
to
pay
back
$15,000
in
principal
and
$229,000
in.
G
G
G
N
Now
so
we
have.
N
Gotten
one
price
back
on
it,
and
one
siding
price
with
the
cost
of
lumber
right
now
could
do
the
same
deck
out
of
like
concrete,
almost
like
the
baseball
stadium
has
for
the
party
deck.
So
they
are
reworking
that
price
for
us
to
make
it
a
more
permanent,
less
maintenance
things.
So
you
know
in
a
perfect
world,
we'll
get
the
siding
done,
this
fall
and
let
them
start
going,
hopefully
in
the
spring,
on
the
deck.
It's
just
been
kind
of.
B
D
K
A
A
78,000
or
79,000
5
79,000
right,
yeah,
79,000,
all
right,
Mr,
chairman
I'll,
pull
that
motion
back
so
I'll
make
it
clean
again.
So
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
amend
page
145
under
the
band
section,
I
would
like
to
insert
a
principal
of
$155,000
an
interest
of
$
29,620,
with
a
total
of
44,000
$627
and
then
under
total
debt
service,
a
principal
of
$49,800,
an
interest
of
$
29,620
with
a
total
death
service
of.
G
Please
so
if
you
look
at
page
228
the
last
line
items
there,
you
can
see
that
we
increased
the
price
across
the
board
a
little
bit
on
all
the
golf
course.
Fees
and
I
will
say
after
conversation
with
the
people
who
are
managing
it,
that
we're
getting
a
lot
of
usage
and
they
feel
that
we
could
increase
the
price
a
little
bit
and
get
more
revenue
and
not
actually
reduce
the
usage
of
it.
G
When
you
compare
us
to
what
the
courses
like
now
and
you
compare
it
to
other
courses
around
here,
they
feel
that
we
can
get
more
Revenue
based
off
of
the
course
condition
and
the
usage
that
people
want
to
use.
G
O
Okay,
thank
you
for
giving
us
that
information
Mr
shager,
but
if
we
were
to
go
dollar
opposed
to
course
condition
but
fee
fee
are,
would
the
average
golfer
that.
A
K
N
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
to
those
of
you
who
are
doing
the
budget
with
me
the
last
time
for
your
support
over
the
years.
It
is,
you
know,
been
much
appreciated,
you're
not
going
anywhere
right,
I'm,
not.
B
E
R
Please
there
there's
only
a
couple
changes,
one
to
want
to
increase
the
amount
that
was
allotted
for
salt
sand
and
another,
because
this
past
year
we
have
found
that
we
needed
U
much
more
than
was
originally
anticipated
from
previous
years.
The
Holly
garage
needs
to
be
maintained
with
calcium
chloride,
which
is
much
more
expensive
and
is
U
increased
the
need
for
that.
R
The
the
other
is
the
preventative
maintenance
line
which
a
contract
that
was
set
up
with
bur
National
controls
for
an
annual
maintenance
fee
of
the
designa
parking
equipment.
That
is,
that
handles
the
pay
station
and
monitoring
of
monthly
Parkers
in
the
garages
was
wasn't
taken
into
consideration.
Last
year's
budget,
that's
a.
B
R
Annual
fee
other
than
that,
most
everything
is
comparable
to
its
previous
years.
A
little
a
couple
cuts
were
made
not
much.
H
H
K
R
Prevent
maintenance
well
6,000
of
it,
is
for
that
U
the
preventative
maintenance
contract
with
on
the
equipment.
Other
preventative
maintenance
would
be
any
anything
that's
done
to
alleviate
the
Hazardous
conditions,
things
of
that
nature.
They
arise
as
they
arise.
L
The
the
pr
the
$6,000,
the
biggest
increase
is
the
$6,000
bur
National
contract,
it's
to
do
preventative
maintenance
on
the
gates
and
the
card
readers
and
the
the
payment
machines.
That's
the
new
cost
there
right
to
make
sure
that
all
that
equipment
is
maintained.
I
Okay,
just
a
a
call
for
that
I'm
just
curious,
so
is
this
like
I
get
the
whole
preventative
maintenance
stuff.
But
is
this
such
a
an
increase
because
of
a
new
company,
a
different
way
of
doing
things,
because
you've
always
had
this
maintenance
right
or.
L
K
R
R
Yes,
in
the
rate
structure
asking
for
$5
increase
in
monthly
rates,
it's
a
it's
a
nominal
amount
in
years
pass.
Sometimes
we
let
it
go
too
many
years
and
then
make
a
large
jump
which
alarms
people
to
a
nominal
amount
to
step
annually
is
much
e
more
easily
received
by
our.
H
Thank
you,
chairman
scanlin,
so
the
there's
I
know
that
there's
a
delicate
line
like
we
were
just
talking
about
this
with
the
golf
fund,
there's
a
delicate
line
to
to
walk
between
making
more
money
and
decreasing
usage
by
charging
more
money,
and
so
I
I
noticed
that
that
to
park
less
than
an
hour
in
the
garages,
cost
$2
and
that's
significantly
or
that's
more
expensive
than
it
would
cost
to
park
on
the
street.
For
that
same
amount
and
I,
it's
it's
a
delicate
balance.
You
know
I.
H
Obviously
we
have
to
charge
money
to
make
money
from
the
parking
garages,
but
I
I,
wonder
if
this
price
differential
disc
encourages
people
from
actually
using
the
parking
garages
and
instead
I
I,
think
that
leads
to
this
perception
that
there's
always
a
shortage
of
parking,
because
people
are
only
looking
at
the
on
street
parking
and
they're,
not
really
considering
using
the
parking
ramp,
because
they're
saying
well,
if
I'm
going
to
park
for
10
minutes
to
run
in
somewhere,
I
don't
want
to
pay
$2.
For
that.
R
I'd
like
to
make
mention
of
the
fact
that
we're
we're
sitting
at
130%
capacity,
State
Street,
so
I,
don't
see
the
need
and
110%
capacity
at
Holly.
So
almost
like
a
hotel,
that's
overbooked!
I!
Don't
want
to
get
to
the
point
where
we're
trying
to
get
encourage
more
people
to
park
when
we
don't
have
the
space
we're
really
sitting
in
a
position
where
the
r
structure
makes
the
most.
R
Capacity
I
believe
the
meters
best
cover
or
the
P
stations
on
the
street
cover
the
short
shortterm
Parker
easier
than
the
garage,
because
you
can
come
and
go
quicker.
So
I
don't
believe
that
you
know
it
really
deters
people
from
using
the
garage
hourly
again
add
our
capacity
is
at
Peak.
R
Oh,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
okay.
Over
book
parking
is
unique
in
the
fact
that
you
have
peak
times
with
people
coming
and
going
monthly
Parkers.
We
have
a
percentage
of
business
and
a
percentage
of
overnight
resident
Parkers.
Most
of
the
resident
Parkers
are
students
they
leave.
Businesses
come
so
the
overlap
by
monitoring
your
peak
hours.
You
can
book.
The
national
average
is
15%
we're
running
10
to
30%,
which
is
a
little
higher
than
average
because
of
the
U.
The
percentage
of
we
have
of
nighttime
Parkers
over
time.
R
Sken
Albany,
they
don't
have
the
percentage
of
all
of
Resident
Parkers
that
we
have
I
know
this,
because
we
operate
in
those
cities
and
we'd
make
comparisons.
And
it's
been
brought
to
everyone's
attention
that
we
do
run
a
high
percentage
of
of
of
occupany
level.
And
it's
that's.
The.
B
A
Yes,
councilman,
Burns
and
I
were
talking
about
something
Carl
good
evening,
thanks
for
being
with
us,
I
know
with
like
you
capacity
utilization
rates,
you
know,
usually
good
rates
are
somewhere
between
like
85
to
100%.
A
We
were
just
kind
of
wondering,
as
it
relates
to
the
specific
context
of
the
parking
ramps
in
and
of
themselves.
Could
you
explain
in
a
practical,
real
way
what
it
means
to
have
a
capacity
rate?
That's
over
100%,
because
some
people
might
hear
that
and
say?
Well,
how
can
you
be
over
a
100%
I
know
it
deals.
R
R
Okay,
luckily,
if
there's
a
snow
emergency
and
students
don't
have
class,
fortunately
many
of
the
business
Community
doesn't
come
to
work,
so
we
haven't
had
had
ever
had
a
position
where
we
weren't
able
to
park
everybody,
but
we're
right
on
that
edge
of
where
it's
as
good
as
we
can
get.
The
Holly
garage
is
increasing.
I,
intend
I,
believe
it'll
get
about
20%
Beyond,
it's
becoming
more
popular
for
people
and
there's
things
developing
in
that
area.
R
Now
because
of
change
of
the
businesses,
some
moving
into
the
proximity
of
the
Holly
garage,
the
used
to
be
at
State,
it's
ever
changing
and
we
keep
a
a
good
finger
on
that
aspect
of
it.
H
E
K
S
Oh,
did
you
have
anything
in
mind?
You
wanted
sry.
No,
there
haven't
been
a
lot
of
changes,
there's
been
a
few,
but
nothing
major.
S
Budget,
let's
see
well
in
terms
of
our
Personnel
Services,
our
housing
safety
specialist
position
is
currently
not
funded.
Part
of
that
funding
is
being
used
to
create
a
joint
position
with
the
county.
Let's
see
the
vacant
property
officer
position
is
being
considered
to
relocate
to
code
enforcement.
S
Right,
you
can
see
where
it
says:
contractual,
there's
25,000
there,
that's
what
we're
for
the
putting
toward
the
position.
Sorry,
this
is
cutting
out.
S
Yeah
this
joint
position
with
the
county.
It's
a
kind
of
a
a
case
manager
position
that
is,
is
going
to
be
overseeing
the
city
and
county.
It's
kind
of
a
leaon
position,
I
it
was
going
to
be-
hopefully
I-
wanted
it
to
be
seated
here
at
the
city,
but
it's
going
to
be
seated
with
the
city
working
for
social
services,
kind
of
an
overview.
G
Level
basically
Julia
from
what
I
understand.
It's
like
a
DSS
employee
that
that
works
in
the
city
of
Bingington
that
we're
going
to
pay
to
get
a
little
bit
more
support
of
them
within
the
city
right
and
that
person
will
have
a
conversation
with
the
mayor
and
Juliet
on
a
regular
basis.
To
make
sure
things
that
aren't
getting
done
or
they
have
concerns
about,
will
have
a
person
to
reach
out
to.
O
Shair
scandin,
just
as
an
update
now
we
will
I'm
sure
I'm.
The
position
has
already
been
approved
and
so
we'll
learn
more
to
come
right,
yep,
and
so
this
will
be
a
higher,
almost
not
a
manager.
Will
they
continue
to
see
clients,
or
will
they
be
more
like
a
higher
level
that
will
serve
as
the
liaison
overseeing
the
case
loads
in
DSS.
S
Yeah
my
understanding
was
the
title
of
it
was
a
case
aid,
but
it's
actually
going
to
be
more
of
an
oversight.
O
H
You
thank
you,
chairman
scan
Lyn,
hello,
Dr
buring.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
No
problem.
All
right,
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions
for
you,
so
I'm,
looking
on
page
101
right
now
under
personal
services,
so
across
the
board,
most
positions,
I
have
noticed,
have
gone
up,
but
the
historic
preservation
and
neighborhood
planner
to
position
appears
to
have
decrease
in
salary.
Can
you.
S
Yeah
light
on
that,
our
previous
historic
preservation,
planner
Sean
M,
had
more
experience
than
he
left
actually
took
a
position
in
San
Francisco,
so
we
hired
a
new
planner
at
a
lower
rate.
S
H
All
right
can
you
on
the
same
page.
Can
you
explain
what
city
identification
equipment
is.
S
Yeah,
that's
identifiable
clothing
with
the
city
logo
on
it
jackets
hats.
We
had
an
incident
where
some
of
my
staff
were
referred
to
as
Scoundrels,
because
they
couldn't
see
their
ID
and
people
became
alarmed.
So.
K
H
Wow
I'm
sorry
to
hear
that
that
happened.
Okay
on
this
same
page,
further
down
under
the
Professional
Services
line.
Can
you
please
remind
me
what
why
we
have
expended
$53,000
in
that
line
when
there
were
last
year
there
was
3,500
allocated,
and
this
year
we're
proposing
$200.
G
We
had
some
money,
I
can't
remember
exactly
where
it
came
from.
K
G
It
was
I,
can't
remember
what
it
was,
but
there
was
an
RL.
We
did
earlier
this
year
that
we
had
that
$53,000
and
we
moved
it
into
that
line
to
us
as
Professional
Services
I
I
have
to
get
it
for
you
and
let
you
know
what
it
was
for.
K
K
H
S
That
please
absolutely
the
American
Planning
Association
membership.
The
first
line
there's
two
at
300,
that's
for
our
historic
planner
and
our
city
planner,
the
APA
memberships
that
are
higher
are
for
Tito
and
myself.
It's
the
membership
fee
is
based
on
your's
experience,
so
it
increases
in
cost.
The
New
York
State
planning
Federation
membership
is
an
educational
membership
for
our
commissioners.
So
by
paying
300
for
the
year,
we
can
they're
open
to
educational
sessions.
So
it
covers
all
the
numbers
for
Z
zoning
planning
and
cod
to
10
sessions.
S
The
National
Alliance
for
preservation
Commissioners,
is
a
it's
a
new
membership
that
I
signed
up
Dylan
Pelton
our
new
historic
preservation
planner.
So
this
is
a
specific
Alliance
that
deals
with
preservation
commissions
and
it's
been
very
helpful
and
it's
an
excellent
way
to
provide
education
as
well.
Each
commissioner
is
require
required,
I
think
to
earn
5
to
10
cus
per
year.
S
The
newspaper.com
is
a
online
subscription
that
opens
research
potential
to
everything
basically
ever
published,
and
we
use
that
for
finding
information
on
our
cases
for
historic
preservation.
Occasionally
it's
very
difficult
to
find
older,
obscure
documents
and
then
the
I
guess.
That's
it.
S
S
No,
we've
always
had
that
in
there.
We
need
to
verify
that
our
ads
have
been
posted
for
public.
K
H
Best
I
think
that
was
maybe
my
only
question.
H
Okay,
I
think
that's
it.
Thank
you.
P
S
Yep,
that
was
a
position
that
was
initially
funded
through
City's
rise
for
two
years,
and
then
the
city
picked
it
up
for
one
year
last
year
and
that
the
person
that
held
that
position
actually
has
taken
a
position
in
oigo.
So
we
haven't
filled
the
position
and
the
the
funding
for
that
position
is
being
used
to
help
fund
the
joint
position
with
the
county.
D
Q
P
S
S
Well,
right
now,
when
we
have
calls
for
we're
still
doing
the
work
in
the
office,
we
have
calls
that
come
in
requesting
information
on
case
history
to
take
to
court.
When
we
have
calls
regarding
housing
concerns
or
safety
issues,
either
our
vacant
property
officer
will
go
and
check
or
we'll
work
with
code
to
check.
So
the
the
work
is
still
going
on
for
now,
it'll,
not
as
detailed
as
they
had
been,
but.
P
K
S
G
S
Yep,
the
housing
coordinator
position,
the
individual
that
held
that
position
retired
and
has
come
back
have
half
time
until
we
can
have
that
position
refilled,
so
it
is
currently
listed
is
vacant,
but
we
have
a
couple
of
people
are
interested
in
so
and
that's
a
position
that
manages
our
rehab
programs
for
low
mattered
income,
individuals.
Q
K
A
K
B
J
J
J
G
There
there
is
a
couple
things
new
on
there
R
just
to
oh
there's,
a
Court
Street
Tomkin,
Street,
Pump
Station,
that's
going
to
be
redone
right;
okay,
that's
an
important
one
that
causes
part
of
the
flooding
sport,
Street,
Brandy,
Wine,
Henry,
Street,.
H
H
31
both
the
Professional
Services
and
Technical
Services
lines
have
decreased.
Actually,
can
you
tell
us
a
little
more
about
that.
J
J
H
E
Seconded
by
Council
woman,
R
netti,
all
in
favor.
B
E
T
Hello
councilman:
how
are
you
I'm
good?
How
are
you
good?
Thank
you
if
I
could
I
I
know
we've
closed
the
pages,
but
on
Dr
Bing's
budget,
the
the
DSs
case,
worker
councilman,
Burns,
asked
a
question
that
position
will
be
focused
on
housing
and
serving
residents
in
the
city
of
Bingington.
That
was
your
question
councilwoman.
But
councilman
Burn's
question
was
what
about
the
housing
safety
specialist,
that
DSS
casew
worker?
The
hope
is
they'll
essentially
be
doing
that
work,
but
with
just
more
access
to
the
DSs
services,
so
just
to
clarify.
D
T
You,
okay,
16.
T
17,
okay,
so
not
too
many
changes
here
we
have
one
title
change
which
is,
which
is
for
my
position:
we're
looking
to
change
that
officially
to
Deputy
Mayor
from
the
executive
assistant
to
the
mayor,
which
it
which
it
has
been
in
the
budget
and
I
appreciate
the
the
support
council's
already
given
and
voiced
on
that
we're
increasing
the
gas
line.
I'm.
Sorry,
the
line
for
gas
and
heat
at
the
Barta
Center,
that's
just
based
on
General
rise
and
costs
same
for
travel
and
training.
T
That's
a
slight
increase
promotions
and
marketing
is
going
down
slightly.
The
one
thing
I
would
note,
is
the
youth
programming
line
on
page
177.
T
That's
zeroed
out
in
the
past,
that's
gone
to
the
car's
backpack
program,
we're
just
essentially
moving
that
funding
to
come
solely
from
Community
Development
block,
grant
funding
and
have
actually
increased
the
amount
going
to
that
program
for
for
next
year.
It's
just
coming
out
of
a
different.
E
Line
questions
for
Megan
on
page
16
and
17.
B
K
A
This
this
it's
tied,
it's
not
in
budget
question,
it's
good
that
we're
updating
the
title.
This
might
be
a
Corp
Council
question,
but
anywhere
in
the
city
Charter,
where
that
title
change
also
needs
to
occur,
I'm
assuming
that's
probably
a
separate
RL
that
we're
going
to
need
to
so.
A
A
H
I'm
good
good,
so
I'm,
looking
on
page
16
under
the
the
Professional
Services
line,
we
spent
almost
$80,000
and
we've
only
proposed
$1,000
I,
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
I.
Don't
remember
if
there
was
an
RL
for
that,
but
can
you
shed
light
on
that
line.
T
Please
I
I
believe
so.
Yeah
I
was
looking
at
that
earlier
too,
because
we
had
budgeted
last
year
just
for
$1,000
dollar,
which
is
what
we're
looking
to
do
again
this
year.
The
money
expended
I
think
Lori's
checking
right
now,
but
we
think
it
was
for
the
energy
performance
contract.
I
H
H
Thank
you,
chairman
scanlin,
so
I'm
on
page
17,
now
and
I
noticed
that
there
was
a
significant
decrease
in
the
promotions
and
marketing
line.
I
mean
I.
Guess
we
haven't
spent
that
much
on
it
thus
far
this
year.
But
can
you
explain
that
decrease
pleas.
T
Sure
I
think
that
was
just
probably
an
area
where
we
were
looking
to
cut
costs.
As
you
said,
we
we
haven't
spent
what
we've
budgeted
last
year.
That
typically
goes
to
support
like
this
year.
It's
gone
to
support
a
community
building
series
we
have
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
in
past
years.
It's
supported
some
programming
out
of
Noma,
but
we
we
haven't,
spent
it
down
to
date,
so
just
a
cost
cost
savings
measure.
Okay,
thank
you.
You're
welcome.
T
Page
47
is
just
our
annual
dues
and
memberships.
It's
increasing
this
year,
because
the
memberships
I
think
us
Conference
of
Mayor
specifically,
is.
T
Increasing
I
will
do
91
first,
if
that's
okay
celebrations,
we
are
requesting
the
the
same
amount
as
last
year.
This
has
gone
to
different
community
events.
One
example
is
the
pride
Coalition
firework
sponsorship.
What
was
one
from
this
year,
but
we're
keeping
that
budget
line
the.
T
I
T
Library
Yes,
actually
I
was
saving
that
one
for
last
Josias
spartum,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
library,
is
here
tonight,
so
he's
agreed
to
come
down
and
speak
to
council
and
help
answer
any.
Q
Welcome,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Deputy
Mayor.
Thank
you
Council.
Thank
you.
So
we
wanted
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
directly.
I
think
that
sometimes
the
funding
that
the
library
receives
from
the
city,
it
can
feel
like
it's
taken
for
granted
and
so
I
wanted
to
start
by
acknowledging
the
city
is
our
second
largest
funer
after
the
county,
and
we
would
like
to
participate
in
this
process
as
much
as
as
you
want
to
have
us
going
forward.
Q
I
think
that,
as
you
see,
looking
at
your
budget
is
a
a
significant
amount
of
money
and
I
would
love
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
about
how
it's
used
and
Joan
handerhan
who's.
The
president
of
our
board
has
handed
out
a
copy
of
our
2022
annual
report
and
our
County
budget.
The
2024
budget,
that's
in
there
has
not
been
approved
by
the
county.
Q
Yet,
but
that's
what
was
that's,
what
we
put
into
the
county
Executives
budget
and
that
process
ends
in
November
so
that,
as
far
as
we
know
right
now,
that's
what
we'll
be
operating
on
and
so
again
primarily
I
wanted
to.
Thank
you,
but
I
also
wanted
to
see
if
there
were
any
questions
that
I
can
answer,
I'd
be
happy
to
speak
about
some
of
what
we're
doing.
As
far
as
programs
go.
Some
of
the
changes
that
we're
making
I
did
highlight
two
lines
in
revenue
on
there.
Q
Q
Let
me
step
back
for
a
second,
so
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
our
library
was
originally
the
Binghamton
public
library
and
that's
the
history
that's
behind
this
and
in
the
1980s,
when
an
agreement
was
made
with
the
county
to
take
over
oper
ation
of
the
library,
there
was
an
agreement
that
the
city
would
continue
to
contribute
funding
to
it.
So
that's
the
history,
that's
behind
this!
That
funding
amount
is
based
on
a
contract
and
the
contract
is
tied
to
the
CPI
each
year.
Q
So
if
you
look
at
the
revenue,
the
percentage
amount
that
the
county
funding
is
going
up
for
for
2024
is
more
than
that.
Cpi
amount
that
the
city
bill
is
going
to
be.
So
that
was
the
the
point
that
I
wanted
to
make
by
putting
that
in
there.
Q
Some
of
the
things
that
we
are
adding
in
this
budget
we're
adding
a
full-time
custodial
supervisor
position.
We
are
adding
18
hours
of
clerk
time
for
the
local
history
Department
up
on
the
second
floor
and
we
are
adding
a
full-time
library
assistant
for
the
children's
Department,
which
is
you
know.
The
children's
department
is
one
of
the
most
widely
used
parts
of
the
library
and
that's
gonna.
Allow
us
to
continue
to
serve
the
community
work
on
literacy
work
on
programs,
the
we
are
very
active.
Q
We
are
back
to
the
levels
of
activity
that
we
were
before
coid,
but
we
are
not
checking
out
as
many
books,
so
we
have
people
coming
in
for
different
reasons,
and
it's
for
all
of
the
programs
that
we
were
running
and
I
included
my
business
card
with
that
packet
too,
and
I
would
love
a
couple
of
you
have
been
over
for
tours.
I
would
love
to
show
any
of
you
who
want
to
see
what
it
is
that
we're
doing
in
person.
Q
E
Answer
yes,
I
I'll
start
out.
Thank
you
for
coming
here
by
the
way
and
thank
you
Joan
for
coming
here.
So
the
contract
with
the
city
is
that
a
is
there
a
time
frame
on
a
contract,
it's
going
to
end
at
a
certain
year?
Is
it
never
ending?
Can
you
explain
that
to
us?
Please.
Q
My
understanding
from
RE
so
I've
not
spoken
to
the
County
attorney
about
this.
My
understanding,
just
from
reading
the
text
of
the
contract
and
I
would
be
happy
to
share
it
with
any
of
you
who
want
to
see
it.
It
sounds
like
it's
open-ended
to
me.
Okay,.
E
All
right,
that's
what
I
thought
I
will
take
you
up
on
a
tour
by
the
way
and
does
anybody
have
other
questions
council,
member
Freeman,
please.
H
Thank
you,
chairman
scanlin.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
with
us
tonight,
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
be
able
to
take
a
tour.
It
was
quite
lovely
and
I
one
of
the
things
that
stuck
with
me
on
the
tour
was
I.
Don't
remember
who
mentioned
that
it?
The
libraries
nowadays
offer
a
lot
of
Human
Services.
You
know
things
like
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
who
come
in
and
just
kind
of
relax
or
use
the
facilities.
H
So
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
highlight
for
us
some
of
those
services
that
the
library
offers
that
one
wouldn't
maybe
associate
with
a
a
library.
Q
Absolutely
and
that's
very
true-
and
it's
true
across
the
country
at
especially
Urban
public
libraries
based
in
neighborhoods,
where
there
is
a
large
homeless
population
and
it's
I
mean
we're
a
friendly
welcoming
space
and
our
doors
are
open
and
so
and
it's
climate
control
and
that's
one
of
the
biggest
functions
that
we're
serving
right
now.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
running
through
our
peer
support:
partnership
with
Catholic
Charities.
Q
We
have
a
room
dedicated
to
providing
services,
and
so
it's
both
a
a
space
for
people
to
spend
time
and
a
way
to
get
connected
to
Services,
that's
funded
primarily
through
a
grant
from
the
CLE
Foundation,
and
that's
a
program
that
the
library,
staff
and
Catholic
Charities
is
going
to
be
presenting
at
the
New
York
Library
liary
Association
conference
in
Saratoga
Springs
in
November
and
I
expected
to
get
a
lot
of
interest
from
other
libraries
in
the
state.
I
think
that
it's
a
really
Innovative
model
and
I'm
proud
of
it.
Q
Some
other
examples
of
that.
We
have
a
farm
to
library
program.
That's
new
this
year,
where
we're
giving
away
fresh
produce,
there's
a
cooler
next
to
the
circulation
desk
and
it's
not
tied
to
income
or
need
it's
just
fresh
produce
for
anyone
who
wants
it
with
information
about
how
to
prepare
it,
and
we
saw
a
lot
of
families
coming
in
for
our
summer
reading
program
this
year,
which
is
one
of
our.
Q
It
is
our
biggest
program
and
there
was
a
lot
of
kids
coming
in
and
grabbing
carrots
or
apples
out
of
the
fridge,
and
so
that's
been
really
fantastic
and
it's
something
that
we're
going
to
continue
over
the
winter,
we're
purchasing
produce
from
lone
maple
farm
and
they
have
hydroponic,
they
grow
hydroponically
over
the
winter.
So
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
that.
We
also
have
people
bringing
donations
into
the
fridge,
as
well
as
what
we're
purchasing
from
loan
maple
farm
and
the
last
one
I'll
mention
is
the
partnership
you
can
see.
Q
Partnerships
is
kind
of
the
the
theme
here
we're
doing
this
all
through
Partnerships.
This
is
a
partnership
with
the
County
public
defenders
office
to
period
Pantry
at
the
library,
so
that
is
a
shelf
of
period
products
in
our
retunda
that
they
are
stocking
and
again
that's
just
there
for
anyone
who
needs
it
to
help
themselves.
B
E
A
Josiah
for
coming,
can
you
take
just
a
minute
or
two
and
kind
of
talk
about
I,
know,
there's,
obviously,
a
lot
of
City
residents
like
Joan
hanran,
who
serves
as
the
president
of
the
friends
of
the
broom
County
Public
Library,
maybe
just
some
of
the
things
that
they
do
the
activities
and
how
that
positively
impacts,
the
library
and
the
community.
Things
like
that.
Q
Sure
yeah,
so
we
have
a
fantastic
group
of
volunteers
through
the
friends
of
the
library
and
the
friends
of
the
library.
It's
a
lot
like
it's
a
lot
like
the
PTA
for
a
school
is
how
I
tend
to
explain
it.
So
it's
a
separate
nonprofit
but
Joanne
hanran
is
the
president
of
both
the
library
board
and
the
friends
of
the
library
so
they're
very
closely
aligned,
and
they
do
several
things.
Q
They
run
Book
Sales
out
of
the
library,
and
that
raises
revenue
for
a
lot
of
these
programs,
especially
children's
programs,
but
other
things
as
well,
and
that
also
it's
just
really
popular
in
the
community.
So
the
book
sales
draw
a
lot
of
volunteers
who
set
them
up.
Many
of
them
are
retired,
and
this
is
one
of
their
main
ways
of
being
out
in
the
community
socializing.
And
then
it
draws
a
huge
number
of
people
to
purchase
the
books.
Everything
is
donated
through
the
LI.
Q
You
know
people
bring
it
in
and
donate
it
at
the
library
and
it's
a
a
volume
of
donations
with
which
is
hard
to
keep
up
with
I
believe
they
have
16
sales
planned
next
year,
16,
which
is
more
than
ever
before,
and
they
now
have
a
dedicated
space
in
the
library
with
bookshelves
that
were
built
by
the
broom
tyoga
bosis
carpentry
students
at
just
the
cost
of
materials,
and
it's
a
beautiful
room.
Q
You
might
hear
Joanne
on
The
Bob
Joseph
show
promoting
this
I
think
she
was
on
there
this
morning,
because
this
is
the
book
sale
week.
So,
if
you
want
to
check
it
out,
this
is
a
good
time
to
come
down
and
see
that
they
also
volunteer
in
all
sorts
of
other
ways.
So
it's
the
friends
of
the
library
who
are
going
and
picking
up
produce
from
the
farm
and
bringing
it
back
for
our
dep
to
library
program.
Q
Q
G
G
E
You
all
right,
let's
keep
moving
here,
we're
behind
schedule.
So
let's
welcome
Joshy
down
here,
we'll
open
sorry.
E
B
E
Anyone
opposed
thank
you
all
right,
let's
bring
Josh
in
now.
Thank
you,
open
34,
35,
36,
373,
39,
41,
70,
40,
41,
72,
73,
74,
75,
97
and.
E
E
G
Me
try
to
clear
up
something
that
you
guys
may
be
confused
on.
We
have
DPW
and
we
had
a
refuged
fund.
G
Okay,
I
could
not
find
it
because
the
refuse
fund
was
being
funded
with
tax
dollars
through
transfers.
I
really
should
have
found
a
way
to
to
put
those
tax
dollars
over
into
the
refu
fund.
I
could
not
okay
and
put
it
on
a
tax
bill
and
all
that
to
make
it
look
very
clear:
okay,
it's
a
question
that
I
get
brought
up
every
year
by
the
state.
So
what
we
did
is
we
moved
back
all
the
collection
part
of
the
Refuge
fund,
which
is
the
trucking.
G
The
the
labor
from
the
refu
fund
to
the
general
fund
and
the
Refuge
fund
is
just
a
fund
now
to
collect
all
the
cost
of
disposal
cost
of
recycling
the
cost
of
landfills.
The
cost
of
blue
bags,
things
of
that
nature.
So,
as
you
go
through,
that
think
of
the
general
fund
is
paying
for
all
the
collection
side
of
it.
The
refug
fund
is
paying
for
all
the
disposal
side.
U
E
K
E
So
let's
question
for
Josh
and
so
I
guess
we'll
look,
go
watch
SC,
218
Josh,
please!
So
we're
covered
with
this.
G
H
Thank
you,
chairman
scandin.
Thank
you
city
clerk,
hi
Josh.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
here,
I
am
looking
at
the
travel
and
training
line
on
page
34
and
I
noticed
that
we
haven't
spent
that
much
of
it
is.
Are
we
expecting
to
spend
that
entire
amount
by
the
end
of
the.
U
H
H
And
okay,
sorry!
Okay!
So
on
that
page,
I'm,
looking
at
the
personal
services
and
so
I
see
the
salary
adjustment
for
DPW,
commissioner
with
PE
license
is
zeroed
out.
Can
you
tell
me
about
that
line
pleas
that
has
been
there.
L
I
H
All
right
so,
on
the
next
page,
on
page
35
I'm,
going
to
ask
you
the
same
question
that
I
asked
somebody
else:
I
see,
there's
a
retention,
stien
who's
eligible
for
that
Teamsters,
Blue,
Collar,
say
so
same
thing.
Those
who
have
been
here
for
at
least
one
year
since
yep
October,
1st
I,
think
of.
H
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you
and
then
on
page
36.
There
are
a
few
lines
that
appear
to
have
significant
differences,
so
first
Technical
Services
is
zeroed
out
and
energy
monitoring
contract
is
also
zeroed.
G
H
G
L
H
G
K
K
H
38
there's
under
Tools,
one
of
the
lines
is
personal
tool.
Allow
can
you
explain
how
that
is.
H
Okay-
and
that's-
is
that
like,
what's
the
word
I'm
looking,
not
managed,
but
I,
it's
just
up
to
them,
whatever
they
decide
that
they
yes
want
and
need.
H
Okay,
all
right
now
on
page
39,
the
travel
and
training
line
is
zeroed
out.
Can
you
explain
that.
U
Just
basic
mechanics
training:
we
have
some
specialty
equipment;
sometimes
they
get
specialty
training
on
like
a
sweeper
or
certain
vehicles
that
we
have.
H
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you.
We
opened
all
of
these
Pages
or
just
the
G
fun.
E
Opposed
all
right,
other
questions
for
Josh
up
to
from
started
34
up
to
218.
B
E
H
Thank
you,
chairman
scanlin,
so
on
page
122
the
personal
services
line
is
zeroed
out.
G
H
Fund
and
so
all
like
all
of
the
other
lines
that
are
zeroed
out,
those
are
also
going
back
to
the
general
fund.
Correct.
G
And
garbage
charges
are
1.5
million
almost
1490,
that's
the
sale
of
the
blue
bags.
There
is
a
increase
in
the
blue
bags
which
you'll
see
on
the
fee
schedule,
but
the
the
difference
between
that
1490
and
all
the
expenses
of
disposal
that
170,000
is
what's
going
back
just
to
help.
You
understand.
G
If
you
look
on
page
119,
it's
1,490
th000
is
what
we're
going
to
sell
in
blue
bags
that
we're
going
to
get
revenue
from,
and
the
total
expenses
are
basically
1
million,
300,000.
Okay,
that
difference
of
170,000
is
going
back
to
the
general
fund
to
help
offset
the
administration
cost
that
it's
not
included
here.
Thank.
E
You
all
right
questions
for
Josh
on0
122
through
129
119
1218
in
223.
Let's
look
at
223.
G
Not
decreasing
I
I
didn't
think
so.
Yeah
I
can't
remember
what
the
actual
price
increase
is
on
them,
so
the
large
bags
are
going
from
a164
to
$1.90
and
the
medium
bags
are
going
from
A14
to.
N
G
A
It
shair
I'm.
Sorry,
were
we
any
insight
into
getting
the
medium
siiz
bags
on
Amazon
because
they
only
have
the
large
in
bulk
on
Amazon
I
mean
that's
a
great
step
forward,
but
I
didn't
know.
If
there
was
any
discussions
about
that
or
anything
like.
B
B
E
B
V
We
play
that,
let's
see
contractual
raises
for
pay
nothing
UNT
in
that
area,
our
fees
that
we're
paying
throughout
different
departments
have
been
adjusted
and
they've
been
adjusted.
Pretty
tight
from
you
can
see
just
from
the
e
and
flow
of
the
prices.
So
one
thing
you
can
say
that
the
budget
is
being
adjusted
very
with
a
very
critical
eye.
V
Yeah
Professional
Services,
we
removed
a
large
fee
out
of
that
I
paid
for
it
in
a
different
way
for
the
next
two
years,
instead
of
going
through
Professional
Services,
so
at
least
two
years
of
relief
to
the
budget
of
about
$30,000,
it's
a
contract
from
the
company
that
sells
most
of
the
electronic
monitoring
at
the
Water
Filtration
plant,
because
we
have
continuous
monitoring
of
all
the
water
that
goes
through
the
plant
at
all
times.
This.
V
The
work
on
that
is
done
by
the
company
that
supplies
the
gear
instead
of
having
our
guys
do
it.
It
helps
with
some
of
our
Regulatory
Agencies
inquiries,
and
things
like
that.
That'd
be
a
the
big
step
down
in
price
from
year
to
year
on
the
Professional
Services
line
for.
O
Time,
good,
how
are
you
good
good
so
because
we
are
now
allocating
a
little
more
to
the
company
that
is
providing
another
service?
We
should
see
a
bump
in
that
line.
Can
you
tell
me
what
line
that
is
since
we're
not
using
the
testing
under
Professional
Services?
We
should
see
a
minor
increase
in
another
right
based
upon
increasing
the
contract
of
another.
V
What
happened
was
the
contract
ran
out
about
half
year?
I
was
in
the
middle
of
waiting
to
make
sure
that
they
didn't
this
company
likes
to
come
out
with
new,
updated
equipment.
Quite
often
I
wanted
to
make
sure
nothing
was
in
the
works,
so
I
had
to
wait
till
a
little
bit
later.
In
the
year
we
just
made
a
purchase
of
brand
new
turbidity
meters
that
go
through
each
filter
and
some
other
updated
gear
during
that
purchase.
I
also
had
two
years
of
the
contract
paid
at
the
same
time.
O
G
You
see
that
postage
going
throughout
the
city
that
the
rates
have
gone
up
so
and
there's
a
certified
mail
now
for
water.
We
have
to
do
things
a
little
bit.
V
Different
page
163,
FX
8330,
the
adjustment
is
that
yeah,
Minor,
Adjustments
back
and
forth
overtime
has
gone
up
a
little
bit
equipment
line,
General
blanket
the
big
one
is
going
to
be
the
chemical
line
right
now.
Chemicals
have
been
staying
fairly,
steady
from
all
of
our
suppliers,
but
they
have,
in
the
past
couple
of
years
been
constantly
going
up
on
us
just
what
the
Market's
holding
there's
not
a
lot.
V
We
can
do
about
it,
and
some
of
these
chemicals
are
regulated
by
state
and
federal
rules
that
we
can't
really
change
them.
We
have
to
stick
with
the
type
we're
using
without
months
of
testing
and
proving
that
the
other
chemical
is
any
better,
but
it's
kind
of
where
we're
stuck
in
a
in
a
few
ways
on
what
we
have
and
where
we
get
it
from
everything
that
can
go
out.
The
contract
does
go
out
the
contract
and
yeah
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
in
a
tough
Market.
G
V
That
I
wanted
to
be
a
surprise,
uniform
contractual
protective
clothing,
contractual
allowance,
contractual
gas
Heats.
That's
where
it's
trended
electricity
we
held
the
line.
Elevator
repair
is
contractual.
Our
hbac
we've
been
using
hler
and
joerger
off
of
the
county
contract.
We've
gotten
pretty
good
service
and
fairly
good
pricing
from
them.
V
V
Licenses,
165
FX
8340
back
to
contractual
changes
over
time's
a
little
higher,
but
not
by
much
yeah
vehicle
parts
continue
to
go
up
meter.
Parts
everything
is
the
same.
Staying
pretty.
V
Looking
at
the
budget
in
the
past,
it's
we
don't
need
that
amount
of
money
front
loaded
in
the
budget,
so
we
don't
need
a
generate.
First,
we're
not
going
to
spend
$100,000.
My
thought
was
to
put
more
of
this
into
the
C
line
and
we
can
piece
it
out.
However,
it
has
to
happen
throughout
the
year.
It
gives
Chuck
a
little
more
flexibility
of
what
he's
doing
to
keep
our
budget
balanced
and
it
just
it
didn't
need
to
be
in
the
front
of
budget
like
that.
V
Just
uniform,
protect
clothing,
clothing,
Professional
Services
we're
at
2500
dropping
a
little
bit
I'm,
hoping
to
see
that
continue
to
decrease
Professional
Services.
Our
skill
at
Leak
Detection
are
getting
a
little
bit
better,
we're
getting
a
little
bit
better
with
the
gear
that
we
have
pretty
fancy
setup
and
they
triangulate
and
look
for
noise
and
there's
a
lot
that
they
do
with
it,
but
they're
getting
better
at
it.
It's
it's
a
tough
skill
to
learn
and
then
I
think
we
also
bought
a
set
of
divining
rods.
V
Wrong
PA
of
Maintenance,
again
travel
and
training.
We
use
that
constantly
State
retirement.
Not
yet
that's
a
Chuck
question.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
that
line
same
with
most
of
the
rest
of
it
blame
Chuck,
that's
our.
E
E
H
One
mistake
tonight
exactly
hi
Jeff,
thank
you
for
your
patience
and
picking
it
out
absolutely
okay,
so
I
sorry
I
was
holding
all
my
questions
in
so
if
we
could
go
back,
that
would
be.
O
H
H
H
G
H
Okay,
all
right:
okay,
on
page
162,
the
hardware
software
maintenance
line
is
also
zeroed.
I
H
Okay,
on
page
163,
I
noticed
that
the
Sunday
bonus
is
new.
What
is
the
Sunday.
G
G
G
H
H
V
H
A
K
G
Jeff,
these
are
all
the
basic
water
items
that
he
has
as
capital
expenses
that
we
move
to
the
capital
fund
each
year,
depending
on
how
much
you
use
so
that
we're
not
just
spending
money.
So
it's
a
total
I
think
$200,000
Al.
H
Thank
you,
chairman
scanlin,
so
in
the
in
this
on
page
218,
there's
a
hardware
software
line
for
$5,000,
but
the
other
one
the
maintenance
line
was
zeroed
out.
Can
you
explain
what's
going
on
there?
This.
V
H
G
K
K
V
186
personal
services,
we
increase
the
dispatcher,
we
increase
the
dispatcher.
What
we
do
is
we
pay
for
a
part,
salary,
Out
of
Water
and
Sewer
for
the
DPW
dispatcher.
Our
calls
tend
to
be
very
long
periods
of
time
where
they're
stuck
in
the
office
for
us,
they
provide
support
with
phone
calls,
get
people
into
and
all
of
those
different
Services
we've
only
been
paying
a
quarter.
We
talked
about
a
little
bit:
we've
ued
that
to
now
half
of
the
salary
between
water
and
sewer
to
cover
that
position.
V
There
rest
of
it
same
idea
with
the
the
fees,
the
different
fees
we
pay
back
to
the
city,
it's
equal
with
water
and
sewer
this
just
sewer
side
of
those
Gardens.
Like
Chuck,
told
he
has
a
secret
formula.
V
H
V
You
on
page
187
is
EFC
a
lot
of
numbers.
There
Chuck
may
know
what
they
mean:
equipment,
repairs
and
maintenance,
Z
administrated
and
office
zero
postage.
Once
again,
the
upswing
on
that
cost.
The
up
on
personal
services
is
contractual.
The
retention
stien.
You
heard
about
that
a
few
times
over
time
again,
we''ve
been
TR
trending
a
little
bit
higher
on
overtime
and
that
can
change
from
year
to
year,
depending
on.
What's
going
on,
what's
broken,
where
the
people
are,
what
they're
trying
to
do?
V
Don't
have
a
lot
of
control
over
that
we
have
to
be
there
when
we
have
to
be
there
equipment
line
tightened
it
up
a
little
bit
same
with
contractual
General
operating
supplies
went
up
a
little
bit.
We're
trending
it
out,
seeing
where
the
spending's
going
making
the
adjustments-
and
these
are
a
lot
of
small
adjustments-
add
some
fuel
lubricants.
We
had
up
that
a
little
bit.
V
We
know
that
we
have
a
couple
of
barrels
of
synthetic
lubricants
that
we
have
to
buy,
so
we
know
we're
going
to
be
spending
a
little
bit
more
in
the
line
this
year.
Buildings
and
grounds
went
down
a
little
bit.
V
Construction
materials
on
the
suicide.
We
went
down
a
little
bit
based
on
what
we
spent
chemicals
we
upu.
We
know
we
have
to
order
more
than
we
did
it's
pretty
much
every
other
year
for
chemicals,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
the
route
X.
It
takes
Tre
Roots
out
of
sewer
lines,
which
is
a
common
problem
for
a
lot
of
our
constituents
throughout
the
city,
uniform
clothing,
it's
all
contractual
gas.
We
don't
cover
on
the
sewer
side,
electricity.
V
B
V
Numbers
the
projects
over
and
done
with.
V
Done
page
197
is
health
insurance
for
current
members
and.
G
Retirees
you
know
I
didn't
mention
this
on
when
we
were
doing
the
other
forums,
but
what
you're
going
to
see
is
we
broke
out
the
health
insurance
between
active
employees
and
retirees
I'm,
not
going
to
say
it's
perfect
I
try
to
do
the
best.
I
could
but
I
think
it's
important
for
everyone
to
see
what
we
spent
on
health
insurance
for
active
employees
as
well
as.
V
G
218
same
situation,
it's
3
$358,000
of
capital
items
they
use
on
a
yearly.
H
You
I
never
don't
have
questions.
Let
me
I.
H
V
H
H
V
Rudex,
which
is
the
basis
of
most
of
that
cost,
you
get
a
better
discount
price.
If
you
can
buy
in
bulk
this,
we
need
it
again
so
buying
larger
quantities
for
better
prices.
K
G
O
You
thank
you,
chairman,
scandin,
hello,
again,
I
do
have
a
question,
so
we
do
have
a
significant
difference
in
our
transfer
fromer
to
Capital
fund,
which
is
on
204.
It
says
that
been
and
we
are
and
we
budgeted
in
2023
also
140,000,
but
when
I
went
back.
G
B
O
B
O
J
I
Clarifying
just
I
want
thinking
about
this,
because
I
had
a
conversation
just
recently
with
the
TR
going
back
to
the
chemicals
and
Ru
control,
more
I'm,
I'm
curious,
yes,
so
that
is
for
the
removal
of
roots
as
they
protrude
or
they
they
impact
the
sewer
and
water
lines.
Is
that.
I
V
It's
you
have
to
look
at
the
root
problem
in
clay
tile
line.
A
lot
like
you
would
look
at
any
clog
drain.
You
get
these
roots,
you
get
these
tree
growths
to
get
in
there
and
they
separate
some
of
the
clay
tiles.
The
path
and
everything
else
is
still
absolutely
solid
to
keep
everything
within
the
confines
of
that
pipe.
So
you
would
clean
out
any
drain
any
clog
of
hair
anything
else.
You
get
any
drain,
you
use
draano
or
something
like
that.
V
This
is
a
professional
strength,
drao
pretty
much
that
takes
the
tree
any
tree
root
any
growth
inside
of
the
line
again
we're
talking
about
nutrient
Rich
area.
This
will
cut
through
that
there's
also
mechanical
means
where
you
actually
take
a
related
object,
looks
like
sci-fi
movie
spins
at
high
RPM,
with
water,
propelling
it
and
it'll
cut
through
the
roots
as
well.
Whatever
it
takes
to
keep
the
lines
open
and
going
is
really
the
bottom
line.
In
that
case,
the
pipes
are
not
destroyed
or
harmed
by
this
stuff.
V
You
find
a
lot
of
times
if
you
watch
YouTube
and
watch
drain
cleaning,
which
you
probably
don't.
Maybe.
I
P
V
B
G
No,
there
is
yes,
there
is
yes,
there
are
I'll
go
through
the
the
feed
schedules.
Basically,
for
this
there's
there
as
I
stated,
there's
no,
no
change
in
the
water
fund.
Pricing
in
the
sewer
fund.
The
average
resident
is
going
to
see
roughly
an
8%
increase.
Okay,
the
way
this
was
set
up
so
that
the
first
500
cubic
feet
currently
is
$17.
It's
going
to
1775
or
75
per
first
500
cubic
feet.
Every
cubic
feet
thereafter
is
going
from
$740
to
$8,
and
then
the
meters
are
going
up.
G
B
D
P
G
K
B
B
A
Make
a
motion
to
move
Pages
178
through
two
204
sewer
section
on
page
218
and
the
sewer
City
City
fees
on
pages
227
and
228.