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From YouTube: 2022.05.16 City Council Work Session
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Chapters
00:00:00 Call to Order
00:03:00 RL22-146/Gun Violence Reduction & Crime Prevention Discussion
01:06:00 CDAC Discussion
01:21:40 RL22-143
01:24:30 RL22-142
01:25:15 RL22-145
01:28:35 RL22-148
01:30:00 RL22-138 & 39
01:37:00 RL22-141 & 144
01:39:40 RL22-147 & 149
01:43:25 RL22-140
01:51:00 Remote Meeting Discussion
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Okay
for
anybody.
Looking
in
from
your
right
to
left,
we
have
councilman
riley
councilwoman
friedman,
our
clerk,
lee
rogers
phil,
strong
councilman
burns,
and
our
presenters
are
going
to
be
over
here
on
the
far
your
far
left,
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
mix
things
up
just
a
little
bit.
We're
going
to
the
mayor
is
here
with
captain
bidwell
and
we
are.
We
are
going
to
let
them
we're
going
to
let
them
present.
E
E
This
is
to
amend
the
2022
budget
to
allocate
1
million
dollars
in
public
safety
funds
reduce
gun
violence.
This
was
announced
a
couple
weeks
ago.
Really
this
is
in
response
to
you
know.
Binghamton
is
not
different
than
other
cities,
seeing
an
increase
in
violent
crime
and
increase
in
gun
related
incidents.
E
This
funding
will
help
support
staffing
technology
and
other
evidence-based
efforts
to
do
gun,
violence
and
hot
spot
policing.
I
really
managed,
through
the
southern
tier
crime
analysis
center.
Captain
david
bidwell
is
in
charge
there.
That
is
a
local
hub
for
the
state
program,
gun,
involved,
violence,
elimination
or
give
initiative
through
the
division
of
criminal
justice
services.
So
this
million
dollars
will
help
fund
community,
policing
and
street
outreach
programs.
E
Data
driven
hot
spot,
policing,
help
fund
our
septet
or
crime
prevention
through
environmental
design,
which
has
received
statewide
recognition,
and
we
do
trainings
for
other
agencies,
gun
buyback
programs,
partnerships
with
the
ag's
office,
a
violence,
intervention
which
deterrents,
which
are
important
programs
and
also
expand.
Neighborhood
watch
partnerships.
E
This
you
know
this
funding
is
coming
out
of
arpa.
It's
really
critical
that
we
make
investments
in
public
safety.
There's
been
a
number
of
high-profile
violent
crimes
in
the
city
that
certainly
give
neighbors
pause
and
more
resources
are
needed
to
not
just
take
illegal
firearms
off
our
streets,
but
make
sure
that
we're
engaging
in
the
proactive
community
policing
that
all
levels
of
government
as
relates
to
law
enforcement,
are
are
involved
in
I
wanted
to
share
with
with
city
council.
E
I
would
have
included
this
in
the
packet
if
it
was
done
if
it
was
said
prior,
but
on
friday
I
believe
president
biden
was
flanked
by
chiefs
of
police
from
across
the
country
and
spoke
specifically
about
municipalities
using
arpa
funds
for
law
enforcement.
His
quote
was
to
every
governor
every
mayor,
every
county
official.
The
need
is
clear.
My
message
is
clear:
spend
this
money
now
use
these
funds
we
made
available
to
you
prioritize
public
safety.
Do
it
quickly
before
the
summer,
when
crime
rates
typically
surge?
E
Although
I
didn't
know
the
president
was
going
to
say
that
I
certainly
agree
with
it
and
they
have
highlighted
the
ways
that
municipalities,
like
binghamton,
are
using
its
arpa
allocation
to
deter
violent
crime
and
engage
in
community
policing
based
on
that
call
to
action
by
the
president,
as
well
as
looking
at
the
timeline
for
our
council
meetings.
I
would
request
at
this
time
that
this
resolution
be
expedited
to
allow
again
the
the
funding
to
become
available
as
soon
as
possible,
we're
going
to
be
at
memorial
day
before
the
next
meeting.
E
F
F
E
I'll,
let
captain
bidwell
discuss
hot
spots,
policing
and
the
the
efforts
behind
it.
These
areas
that
I
identified
were
not
generated
by
me.
They
came
from
the
division
of
criminal
justice
services
and
our
existing
programs
that
they
fund
and
participate
in.
So
this
is
to
support
existing
state
programs
under
the
governor
and
the
division
of
criminal
justice
services.
But
captain
bidwell
can
speak
for
a
moment
about
data
driven
in
hot
spots,
policing,
sure.
G
Hot
spot,
policing
is
it's
just
so
you
have
a
map
and
then,
depending
on
the
crime.
So
we
break
down
our
crimes
in
part,
one
crime,
so
it
could
be
burglaries,
larcenies,
rapes,
robberies,
and
so
the
crime
is
the
as
as
your
map
is
laid
out
in
front
of
you.
If
there's
a
certain
amount
of
crimes
that
occur
in
a
location
and
on
our
hotspot
maps,
they
turn
yellow,
and
so
that
just
means
just
an
indication
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
crime
in
the
area
and
so
for
hotspot
policing.
E
G
Absolutely
another
another
thing
that
we
do
so
the
sunni
aggravated
assaults
where
they're
an
aggravated
assault
jurisdiction.
So
we
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
aggravated
salt.
So
in
the
months
of
may
and
june,
if
we
see
a
fluctuation
where
our
aggravated
assaults
are
occurring
more
frequently
say
on
the
main
street
border,
then
we
would
allocate
resources
for
there.
G
F
G
F
Okay
and
I
know
so
again-
I
wish
I
could
reference
the
the
email
that
was
sent
out.
I
apologize
that
I
don't
have
that,
but
I
noticed
that
a
lot
of
the
specific
initiatives
that
this
one
million
dollars
is
proposed
to
go
to
a
lot
of
this
was
addressed
in
the
police,
reinvention
collaborative
plan
right,
like
crime
reduction
through
environmental
design,
which
is
to
be
honest,
the
the
one
aspect
of
this
that
I
I
do
actually
agree
with,
and
I
could
see
how
that
would
lower
crime
rates.
F
F
Additionally,
so
far,
the
vast
majority
of
feedback
we've
heard-
or
at
least
I've
heard
at
these
meetings
and
from
my
constituents
personally
about
how
the
arpa
funding
funding
should
be
spent
is
on
housing
and
the
reason
why
I
feel
so
strongly
about
that
is
because,
besides
environmental
design,
all
of
these
are
reactionary
right,
except
if
we
can
increase
or
improve
the
material
circumstances
that
people
live.
That's
something
that
reduces
crime.
F
I
it
in
light
of
the
shooting
that
happened
in
buffalo
that
was
done
by
a
self-proclaimed
white
supremacist
like
I
struggled
to
see
how
any
of
these
would
any
of
these
initiatives
like
foot
patrols
would
have
stopped
something
like
that
from
happening
or
the
shooting
that
we
had
on
the
east
side.
You
know
what
I
mean:
it's
like,
there's
no,
at
least
that
I've
seen
there's
no
data
to
show
that
any
of
these
initiatives
would
have
prevented
those
things
from
happening,
and
I
know
it's.
F
F
A
H
Thank
you
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
alerting
us
that
you
would
come
as
well.
I
do
have
some
questions
similar
to
what
councilwoman
freeman
just
alluded
to.
First,
though,
in
our
package
we
did
not
receive
an
as
extensive
of
an
out
description,
as
you
did
in
the
the
news
report,
the
press
release,
as
you
mentioned
earlier.
I
think,
since
this
is
legislation
that
we
need
to
be
prepared,
for
it
is
incumbent
upon
us
to
always
have
the
most
detail
in
our
packet
so
that
we
can
be
readily
prepared.
H
H
Okay,
I'll
read
it
so
in
the
I'm
going
to
take
this
down
for
clarity
in
the
data,
there
are
two
columns:
it
states,
1,
1,
20,
21
to
present
and
column
2
said
1
122
to
present.
So
if
you
are
analyzing
these
charts,
you
would
think
that
the
second
column
is
a
combination
of
the
first
and
the
second.
So
what
does
this
data
really
tell
us?
H
E
H
I
E
H
E
H
E
H
E
So
what
I
would
say
on
that
is
that,
if
relying
on
on
the
data,
this
data
alone
no-
but,
however,
I
agree
with
president
biden
exactly
what
he
said.
I
agree
with
chiefs
of
police
and
law
enforcement
leaders
from
across
this
country
who
have
said
that
in
the
last
year,
there's
been
an
increase
in
violent
crime.
There's
a
different,
a
qualitative
nature
of
the
ghost
guns
issue
that
we're
seeing.
E
H
H
H
E
H
And
we
do
also
have
to
take
into
account.
We
were
still
under
the
covet
some
of
the
barriers,
and
if
we
look
at
this
data
again
compared
comparatively
we
were
more
free
and
there
were
more
activities.
People
were
coming
out
of
a
lockdown
just
for
landscape
and
time
of
this
chunk
of
data.
Would
you
agree.
E
I
think
that
crime
is
a
leading
cause
of
statistics
and
you
can
look
at
statistics
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
We
were
trying
to
give
city
council
a
bit
of
a
an
overview
of
what's
happened,
maybe
some
specific
incidents.
So
you
can
see
a
little
bit
of
the
picture
that
the
police
see
on
a
daily
basis
and
some
of
the
data
that
they
look
at.
There
are
a
number
of
underlying
issues.
We
know
that,
since
covet
began,
there's
been
an
increase
in
violent
crime.
There's
been
an
increase
in
gun
crime.
H
E
H
G
So,
there's
no
way
to
know
where
the
gun
came
from
a
quick
version
is
so
there's
a
company
called
polymer
80..
What
a
polymer
80
is.
It
is
a
gun
that
is
80
complete,
so
your
lower
receiver
is
plastic.
It's
going
to
come
like
a
big,
it's
going
to
come
in
the
shape
of
a
gun,
but
there's
going
to
be
where
pinhole,
where
pins
would
slide
in
and
out
with
a
gun,
they're
not
drilled
out
where
the
barrel
would
ex
would
expand
past
the
end
of
the
frame
that
part's
not
drilled
out.
G
So
when
you
get
this
kit
in
the
mail,
you
have
to
drill
some
holes,
you
have
to
knock
some
stuff
out
to
make
it
100
complete.
So
the
way
they
get
around
it
is
because
the
gun
is
80
percent.
Only
80
they're
allowed
it's.
They
can
ship
it
in
the
mail,
it's
completely
legal
and
then
whoever
buys
it
has
to
finish
it
and
then
technically
you're
supposed
to
contact
the
atf
you're
supposed
to
get
a
serial
number
made
for
it.
But
that's
not
what
happens
so
then.
You
have
no
way
of
ever.
G
H
H
H
E
H
So
then,
with
if
we
were
to
approve
this
budget
and
and
again
I'm
going
to
go
through,
because
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
like
I
said
in
my
email
earlier,
because
bullet
number
one
talks
about
community
policing
and
street
outreach,
captain
zukuski
alluded
to
the
fact
that
we
are
not
at
our
current
goal
in
terms
of
offices
on
the
streets.
So
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
does
that
mean
increase
police?
H
E
Sure
so
there
are
two
kind
of
things
going
on
in
terms
of
police
operations
and
I'll
lean
on
captain
bidwell
as
well
on
this,
but
there's
the
patrol
division
that
responds
to
calls
for
service,
and
then
there
are
specialized
units
that
engage
in
community
policing,
most
notably
our
crt
unit.
Also
foot
and
bike
patrol
units
that
do
not
respond
to
new
calls
but
engage
in
proactive
community
policing
in
neighborhoods
walking
the
beat
attending
neighborhood
watch.
E
H
Hold
on
cause,
I'm
still
at
bullet
number
one,
and
I
know,
step
ted-
is
down
at
bullet
number
three,
which
is
great.
It's
again,
it's
evidence-based.
We
we
have
some
strategies
that
we've
heard.
I
would
like
more
reports
from
september.
That
would
be
awesome,
but
I'm
still
here
at
number
one.
So
to
achieve
this
goal,
it
would
be
to
increase
the
number
of
police
officers
on
the
force
and
increase
overtime
availability
through
this
fund.
H
E
E
H
H
E
So
as
it
relates
to
emhasan,
it's
good
that
cdac
is
on
the
the
presentation
tonight.
The
funding
that
was
allocated
towards
mhas
to
grow
their
programs
has
not
yet
been
used
by
mhast.
I'm
not
a
spokesperson
for
them.
They've
had
some
significant
staff
and
leadership
turnover,
so
they
are.
They
have
been
asked
to
find
ways
to
basically
newly
spend
that
money,
but
they
have
an
existing
mhas
folks
who
go
on
calls
for
service,
so
that
is
still
in
place.
We
were
talking
about.
Is
the
expansion
for
that?
Okay?
E
H
E
H
H
But
can
we
have
more
formalized
reporting
like
we
do
of
our
calls
for
the
district
when
there's
something
that
has
been
deemed
highly
successful?
So,
for
example,
there's
an
init
some
data
that
came
through
septet
that
then
decreased
the
number
of
calls
in
this
area
or
something
can
we
have,
that
is
that
possible.
E
I'm
trying
to
think
in
terms
of
what
reporting
I
mean
the
the
there
are
reports
that
are
derived
septet.
We
call
it
a
workup,
so
a
septet
workup
does
two
couple
officers
visit.
They
take
photos,
they
make
recommendations
to
the
to
the
business
or
to
the
area,
so
that
is
really
the
the
work
product.
That's
that's
out
of
there
in
terms
of
reporting
again,
this
is
a
state
program
in
terms
of
its
efficacy
would
be
through
dcjs
right.
H
But
if
they
made
a
report
to,
for
example,
a
business
in
the
third
district
and
then
the
business
agreed
and
we
saw
a
significant
reduction
so
say
one
of
the
trigger
or
the
hot
spots
that
were
noted
in
the
state
funding
because
remember
we
did
have
a
workforce
initiative
and
a
crime
reduction
initiative
that
was
launched
last
year
and
they
increased
jobs.
I
think
it
was
through
broome
county,
the
city
of
binghamton
and
broome
county.
We
were
at
that
meeting
together
jared.
Do
you
remember.
H
K
H
E
E
H
You
then
we
talked
about
the
violence
initiatives
again
the
violence,
intervention
and
I
will
be
reaching
out
to
the
broome
county
because
we
were
excited
about
remember.
We
even
took
pictures
at
that
event
because
we
were
excited
about
the
money
that
was
coming
for
our
youth
and,
like
you
said
it
wasn't
ours,
but
they
did
report
that
it
was
a
partnership
between
binghamton
and
broome
and
the
new
york
state,
because
they
highlighted
district
3
and
district
4
as
places
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
change
was
seen.
H
E
E
We
have
a
number
of
neighborhood
watch
or
neighborhood
assembly
groups
that
may
need
some
support
in
terms
of
organizing
if
there
is
an
effort
to
have
an
event
to
host
neighbors
to
talk
about
maybe
pedestrian
safety
issues,
which
I
know
is
important
to
the
first
ward
folks
or
if
it's
on
the
north
side,
we
have
a
collaboration
between
dpd
as
well
as
code
enforcement
to
host
a
class.
In
terms
of
you
know
what
to
do.
If
there's
a
house
in
your
neighborhood,
you
believe,
has
suspected
drug
activity
or
other
code
issues.
E
You
know,
I
think
a
lot
of
times
these
are
being
managed
by
people
in
their
off
hours,
volunteer
hours,
so
if
they
need
some
funding
to
help
support
them
in
terms
of
organizing
we're
talking
about
a
small
amount,
you
know
in
the
maybe
a
few
thousand
dollars
here
there
again
to
help
expand
or
maybe
bring
some
official
nature
to
to
those
watch.
Programs.
E
E
We
have
a
funding
capability
to
have
do
outreach,
maybe
neighborhood
flyers,
that
type
of
thing,
if
any
one
of
those
members
wanted
to
attend,
maybe
a
training
that
was
put
on
or
help
again
organize.
I
think
that
would
be
useful,
but
it's
a
it's
a
represents.
A
smaller
dollar
amount,
I
think
than
the
other
programs.
Okay,.
H
E
E
C
A
A
L
Thank
you,
president
john.
I
just
want
to
say
I
fully
support
the
mayor's
request
for
the
million
dollar
investment
to
help
the
police,
based
on
the
questions
of
councilman
or
councilwoman
riley
and
councilwoman
friedman
they've
never
supported
the
police
department,
nor
would
they
support
him
in
the
future.
L
C
C
C
So
you
know
I'm
I'm
all
for
doing
whatever
we
can
to
get
guns
off
the
street
and
make
our
streets
as
safe
as
we
possibly
can.
So
you
know
that
said.
I
just
have
some
questions,
I'm
going
to
go
to
your
press
release,
so
I
understand
that
when
we
say
additional
resources
for
the
bank
of
the
police
department
to
fund
more
neighborhood
foot
and
bicycle
patrols,
you're
saying
that
we
are
not
hiring
new
officers,
so
this
million
dollars
it's
a
lot
of
money
million
dollars
is
not
going
to
go
to
hire
new
officers.
E
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
you
know
given
the
kind
of
scope
and
and
even
the
the
amount
of
funding
that-
and
I
can
tell
you
that
right
as
of
right
now,
there
are
no
active
people
on
a
civil
service
list
that
that
I
could
hire
so.
We've
we've
expanded
the
civil
service
list
and
unless,
through
a
transfer
from
another
agency,
I
could
not
hire
any
additional
officers
at
this
moment.
E
It
is
possible,
it's
very
rare,
and
you
see
this
in
police
agencies
throughout
the
throughout
the
country.
It
doesn't
matter
if
it's
new
york
or
binghamton
or
syracuse-
it's
very
rare-
for
a
for
an
officer
from
a
suburban
police
department
to
then
transfer
into
an
urban
core.
You
know
the
job
is
very
different.
The
job
is
more
challenging.
C
G
M
G
N
C
E
So
I
would
say
that
you
know
I
I
can't
give
an
exact
breakdown.
A
lot
of
this
has
to
do
with
discussion
with
dcjs
in
terms
of
how
allocations
are
made.
There
are
some
new
funding
from
the
state
which
was
allocated,
I
think,
about
15
million
dollars
that
will
be
distributed
to
the
different
agencies,
so
we
have
to
look
at.
Where
can
we
leverage
funds?
E
Certainly,
I
think
a
huge
chunk
of
this
will
go
in
towards
you
know,
technology
that
supports
law
enforcement
within
the
crime
analysis
center,
as
those
constantly
need
to
be
upgraded,
but
we
were
just
talking
on
the
way
down
the
elevator.
You
know
we
have
a
huge
interest
right
now
on
bike
patrols,
which
you
said
this
morning
with
20.
So
25
officers
has
expressed
an
interest
in
using
some
doing
some
overtime
on
on
bikes.
That's
a
great
problem
to
have.
We
may
need
to
buy
some
bicycles.
E
We
need
need
to
send
them
to
some
train
that
we
can
do
in-house,
so
it
would
cover
the
the
overtime
for
that
any
equipment
that
they
need,
maybe
the
bike
that
they
can
need.
But
you
know
my
vision
of
this.
Is
you
know
on
a
saturday
afternoon
in
the
city,
whether
it's
any
council
district
folks
mowing
the
lawn
playing
outside
with
their
kids
could
see
a
bike
patrol
from
a
bpd
officer?
Go
by
that
will
be
done
through
these
funds
and
aligned
with
dcgs.
C
I
have
a
question
about
the
analysis
center,
which,
based
on
what
happened
up
in
buffalo,
is
there
any
way
that
the
analysis
center
can
get
information
about?
Who
is
buying
guns
in
in
the
city
of
binghamton
or
broome
county
like
this
kid
bought
that
gun
up
in
indict,
so
we
know
that
he
bought
the
gun
and
then
he
got.
How
did
we
know
that
now?
I
guess
the
serial
number
on
the
gun,
but
was
there?
C
Was
there
any
way
of
finding
out
who
you
know
if
there's
any
young
people
buying
guns
or
where
they,
you
know,
you
know,
dick's
sporting
goods
would
be
able
to
tell
me
how
many
ping
drivers
are
being
sold
in
boone
county.
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
know
how
many
guns
are
being
sold
in
in
the
in
the
city
or
in
the
county.
G
So
I
can,
I
can't
speak
on
whether
a
legally
purchased
firearm-
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
that.
I
get
to
tell
you
that
if
somebody
was
turned
away
for
a
firearm
purchase,
we
do
have
that
information.
So
if
somebody
was
turned
down
for
a
domestic
violence,
history,
a
mental
health
history
or
whatever
qualifying
factors
would
limit
them
from
purchasing
a
firearm.
If
they
attempted
it,
we
would
know
that
they
attempted
it
where
they
attempted
it,
and
so
we
would
know
that.
G
C
C
You
know
what
I
mean
they
they
and
I
I'm
a
member
of
the
south
side.
Neighborhood
assembly
who
helped
us
out
saturday
was
great
the
we
had
a
nice
concert
over
there,
but
we're
not
really
a
neighborhood
watch.
We
don't
we're
not
looking
to
make
the
streets
safer
if
the
police
come
over.
We
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
making
them
safer,
but
we're
not
you
know
it's
not
joe's
turn
to
watch
vestal
avenue.
You
know,
as
you
said,
but
the
image
of
that.
C
O
You
guys
hear
me
okay,
thank
you.
I
actually
a
lot
of
my
questions
have
been
answered
during
this
very
robust
discussion.
I
appreciate
appreciate
all
the
questions
and
you
mayor
and
officer
bidwell
for
being
there
to
to
answer
earlier,
just
a
quick,
little
question.
Regarding
ghost
guns,
I
I
kind
of
I
couldn't
hear
very
well.
Can
you
just
officer
bidwell,
explain
to
me:
I
missed
this.
Is
it
legal
to
get
one
of
those
kits
in
the
mailbox
illegal
to
actually
assemble
it
and
use
it?
O
All
right,
thank
you
for
that.
I
think
ghost
guns.
You
know
this
is
kind
of
a
new
thing
and
I
have
some
questions
for
folks
that
just
want
to
be
able
to
answer
that
correctly.
Thank
you
and
and
again
thanks.
Thank
you
all
for
all
those
very
good
questions.
I
I
do
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
launching
this
bold
proposal.
O
In
the
last
few
months,
we
have
seen
all
these
gun
battles
through
even
the
west
side,
illegal
and
and
it
it
feels
like
it's
happening
more
and
more
and
it's
scary.
Illegal
ghost
guns,
of
course,
have
been
used
across
the
city,
broad
daylight
murders.
We
even
saw
we
experienced
that
tragedy
tragedy,
I'm
sorry,
tragedy
of
losing
that
little
girl
to
gun
violence
over
at
the
councilman
scanlon's
district,
and
so
we
do
need
some
bold
action.
O
We
need
real
leadership
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
do
applaud
the
efforts
from
our
mayor
and
police
department
and
I
want
to
come
out
firmly
to
say
that
I
am
absolutely
in
favor
of
this
legislation
and
I
will
be
sponsoring
this
and
to
be
voted
on
as
soon
as
possible.
So,
thank
you
for
all
of
that
information.
You
share
with
us
tonight.
A
B
G
So
other
than
hot
spot,
policing
or
other
than
so.
As
far
as
when
we
talk
about
crime
analysis,
all
we
do
is
we're
the
we're
the
numbers
people.
So
what
we
do
is
I'll
present
to
the
chief.
You
know
when
we
give
them
data
weekly
and
so
all
we're
giving
him
is
where
the
crime
is
occurring,
and
but
I
mean
we
there's
other
things,
so
we
actually,
we
have
like
our
chronic
offenders,
who
we
know
who
our
gang
guys
are,
who
our
gun
guys
are
or
violent
offenders
are
who
our
drug
offenders
are.
B
So
100
of
the
numbers
that
are
being
used
to
create
these
hotspot
maps,
which
we
also
don't
create,
but
the
dcj
or
the
division
of
criminal
justice,
does
are
solely
based
on
geographic
areas,
with
high
temperaments
of
crime
rate
or
offenders.
That
we
already
know
are
either
a
individuals
who
have
been
prosecuted
with
a
crime
or
be
repeat
offenders.
G
So
the
hot
spot
mapping
is
strictly
from
reports
that
are
generated
so
when,
when
reports
are
going
to
be
scanned
in
sending
through
the
computer,
joe
gainer
is
our
gis
guy.
So
when
he
runs
his
query,
all
he's
doing
is
he's
gonna.
So
if
we're
breaking
numbers
down
from
post
to
car
post
to
car
post
for
our
monthly
give
meetings,
all
that's
coming
out
to
joe
is
joe's
not
looking
at
anything
he's
just
running
the
query.
So
it's
gonna
he'll
run
a
query
for
a
specific
crime,
so
it
could
be
2203
a
drug
crime.
B
Right
so
the
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
the
data
is
not
surrounded
by
demographics
by
some
broad
geographic
area
to
begin
with
a
particular
neighborhood
or
geographic
area
over
another,
it's
completely
driven
by
crime
related
data
that
we
already
have
on
the
books
submitted
reports.
Yes,
correct,
okay,
I
think
there's
an
interesting
linkage
that
hasn't
been
brought
up
yet
that
I'd
like
to
address
and
mayor
or
or
captain
for
either
one
of
you
I'll
offer
this
question
too.
B
So
it
would
seem
to
me
it
would
seem
to
me
that
the
increased
resources
here
with
respect
to
the
analytical
center
and
the
broad
policy
direction
overall
seem
to
have
a
strong
correlation
with
what
I
would
seem
to
think
is
probably
going
to
be
a
pretty
increased
inventory
list
for
the
lockdown
law
on
the
residential
side
and
when
we
talk
about
hot
spots
related
to
crime
and
and
just
so,
everybody
can
kind
of
get
an
understanding
here
right.
So
this
is
a
this
is
a
current
press
release
from
the
department
of
criminal
justice.
B
So,
over
the
past
two
decades,
research
has
stated
that
police
can
effectively
address
crime
and
disorder
by
focusing
on
hot
spots,
which
is
defined
as
small
units
of
geography
with
high
rates
of
crime,
again
notice,
nothing
more
than
crime
related
data,
known
as
hot
spot,
policing
or
place
based
policing.
This
strategy
stands
in
contrast
to
traditional
policy
and
crime
prevention
activities.
B
and
the
summation
here
is
that
the
quote
the
data
overwhelmingly
suggests.
These
results
show
that
when
police
focus
on
hot
spots,
they
can
have
a
significant
impact
on
crime.
In
these
areas
further,
there
was
little
evidence
to
suggest
spatial
displacement
of
crime
as
a
result
of
hot
spot
intervention.
In
other
words,
crime
did
not
shift
from
one
hot
spot
to
other
nearby
geographic
areas,
so
it
seems
like
new
york
state
is
saying
this
is
working
and
they've
got
the
data
and
the
research
to
back
that
up,
but
bringing
it
back
more
locally.
E
So
that's
maybe
a
difficult
question.
I
think
the
lockdown
is
sort
of
it's
property
based,
so
is
it
possible
that
this
the
lockdown
law
could
be
used
in
conjunction
with
other
hotspots,
policing,
community
policing,
of
course
sure
if
there
is
a
specific
commercial
property,
that's
hosting
an
after
hours
club
and
aggravated
assaults,
shootings
spill
out
from
that
location,
which
we've
seen
time
and
again
addressing
that
location,
as
you
noted,
will
probably
stop
the
crime
and
it's
not
likely
that
it's
just
going
to
move
to
another
location.
E
So
that's
kind
of
a
part
of
this.
Obviously
there's
no
funding,
that's
that's
associated
with
the
lockdown
law
as
part
of
this
million
dollars,
but
nonetheless
you
know
it's
another
tool
in
the
city's
tool
belt.
I
think
you
know
maybe.
Lastly,
here
you
know,
I
didn't
invent
these
programs
right.
These
were
programs
that
are
existing
through
the
dcjs
recommended
crime
prevention
and
a
common
theme
of
all
of
them
is
time
the
time
that
an
individual
police
officer
is
allotted
to
spend
to
help
solve
working
side
by
side
with
residents.
E
There
is
really
no
time
left
in
the
shift
to
stop
slow
the
things
down,
spend
time
with
residents,
spend
time
with
neighbors
and
even
spend
time
with
with
individuals,
maybe
engaged
in
in
criminal
activity
to
to
have
strength
and
really
relationships
in
the
community.
So
that's
the
overarching
theme
and
what
these
resources
will
allow
our
officers
to
do.
A
Thank
you
just
a
couple
things.
I
know
we're
long
on
time,
but
this
is
obviously
critically
important.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
mean
I
don't
think
we
can
possibly
imagine
you
know
as
a
group
of
pressure
that
the
mayor
and
the
chief
and
the
captain
are
under
with
the
circumstances
that
are
going
on.
People
want
safe
streets.
I
you
know
constituents
are
mentioned
before
I
mean
my
constituents
want
safe
streets.
A
I
think
that
housing,
the
environmental
design,
all
those
things
are
critical,
but
there
is
no
scenario
that
any
of
those
things
would
even
have
the
possibility
of
making
an
impact
relatively
quickly.
I
think
people
are
demanding
something,
but
even
with
that
being
said,
I
don't
think
you
know
you'll
just
throw
a
million
dollars
at
something,
even
though
people
are
you
know,
but
the
question
that
I
have
is
really
simple
and
you
wouldn't
be
here
if
it
wasn't,
but
it's
not
it's
not
a
trivial
softball
question.
A
These
resources
allocated
in
this
way.
We
really
feel
that
there's
a
good
chance
that
it
could
make
an
impositive
impact
in
a
tangible
way,
relatively
quickly
to
augment
these
resources
to
the
police
department
and
what
we're
trying
to
do.
I
know
it's,
maybe
it's
like
duh.
Why
would
we
be
here
otherwise?
E
G
G
Whether
it's
going
to
be
a
community
issue,
whether
it's
whatever
it's
just
so
it's
either
me
or
him
and
a
lot
of
time.
It's
it's
an
overtime
issue,
because
I
have
my
duties
that
I
have
to
do
during
the
day.
So
when
marianne
callahan
is
having
an
issue
or
when
I
just
come
down
there,
people
want
facetime,
they
want
to
know
what
we're
doing,
and
so
it's
it's
a
and
then
like.
We
can
go
through
the
list.
We
talk
about
community,
like
the
civilian
police
academy.
G
It's
another
thing
that
we've
talked
about
for
years,
but
to
have
the
you
have
to
have
the
funding
to
do
it,
which
we
haven't
had
september
our
september
program
as
robust
as
it
is.
It
probably
leads
to
new
york
state
and
in
the
state
for
the
program
we
do
it
on
a
shoestring
budget
at
the
state
gives
me.
I
think
I
had
5500
this
year
to
work
on
it.
G
So
we're
talking
about
assessments,
whether
it's
a
problem,
location
or
whether
a
business
needs
an
assessment
done
so
like
the
school
district
assessment,
so
to
go
to
the
school
district.
It's
a
multiple
visits,
so
I'm
either
coming
in
early
before
my
shift
starts
at
eight
o'clock
to
to
go
over
there
or
I'm
going
there
at
night.
So
I
have
to
do
a
nighttime
assessment
to
see
what
the
building
looks
like
tonight.
G
So
it's
it's
a
huge
time
and
money
commitment
that
a
lot
of
businesses
want
like
we're
doing
one
now
for
the
ross
park
zoo
and
the
discovery
center.
So
they
wanted.
They
want
to
upgrade
their
facilities
on
the
exterior
they
want
to.
You
know
they
need
new
lights,
they
need,
they
don't
have
any
radio
communication
between
the
discovery
center
to
the
zoo.
G
So
I
think
when
I
sat
through
the
police
reform
meetings,
I
think
the
number
one
thing
I
took
away
was:
there's
two:
everybody
felt
that
training
was
important
and
everybody
felt
community
policing
was
important.
They
wanted
cops
on
foot,
they
want
to
see
top
of
the
bikes,
but
to
do
that,
you
either
have
to
hire
more
people
or
you
have
to
fund
the
overtime
to
do
it.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Well,
I
think,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
leadership
from
the
president
of
the
united
states
on
down
to
our
mayor
and
our
local,
our
captain,
our
chief
and
other
people.
We
have
to
at
least
take
them
for
what
they're
asking
us
to
do,
because
you
know
we
are
our
whole
community
is
under
a
microscope
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
to
address
these
things
as
best
we
can.
We
want
to
do
in
the
right
way,
but
certainly
inaction
would
not
be
not
be
acceptable.
D
F
To
move
out
here,
yes,
I
have
two
quick
questions
that
cropped
up
in
our
discussion.
So
as
with
any
funding
of
a
position,
I
wonder
about
the
sustainability,
and
this
is
something
that
you
know
I
tend
to
ask
about.
So
after
this,
let's
say:
if
we
do
use
this
million
dollars
to
fund
things
like
overtime
and
other,
you
know,
officers
for
specific
purposes.
What
happens
after
that
funding
runs
out.
How
are
we
going
to
fund
this
going
forward.
E
F
E
Dave
can
speak
more
to
operationally
on
that,
but
essentially
yes,
I
mean
we
have
in
our
downtown
area
bike
patrols
that
are
regular
patrols,
but
in
terms
of
hot
spots,
policing
or
being
able
to
really
make
it
modular.
So
hey
right
now,
we've
we're
seeing
some
crime
on
leroy
street.
Let's,
let's
have
some
foot
and
bike
patrols
in
that
side
of
town
to
mary
street
the
next
week
that
type
of
thing
that
is
done
through
overtime
and
as
as
the
grants
that
we
get
on
an
annual
basis.
E
F
E
Well,
we
have
to
look
at
a
our
personnel
capacity
right
that
we
cannot
hire
any
other
officers
right
now
because
of
civil
service,
but
you
want
to
use
over
time
because
you're
putting
existing
officers
that
have
experience
out
there
to
where
the
need
is-
and
that's
been
the
case
for
for
many
many
years-
that's
how
hot
spot
policing
works.
Now
I
will
say
is
that
community
response
team
does
hot
spot
policing.
E
E
If
I
had
the
ability
to
hire
and
add
to
that
unit,
that
would
be
something
that
I
would
certainly
consider,
but
I
can't
hire
new
and
I
do
not
want
to
draw
from
an
already
depleted
patrol
division,
who
is
currently
hiring
overtime
right
now,
just
to
fill
the
minimums
on
shifts
that
that
is
an
issue
that
we're
we're
looking
to
address
through
through
hiring.
But
it's
it's
a
it's
a
long
process.
P
For
example,
in
the
past
we
would
be
able
to
say
we
allocate
x
amount
of
dollars
for
roads
in
binghamton,
and
we
would
say
that,
based
on
an
amount
of
money
that
was
given
to
us
by
the
person
who
works
on
roads
in
binghamton,
but
this
year
we
have
to
make
very
specific
recommendations
and
give
you
a
list
of
the
roads
that
we
are
recommending,
and
I
say
that
to
tell
you
that
the
group
that
we
have
is
probably
one
of
the
best
groups.
I've
ever
worked
with.
P
P
So
that
is
one
of
the
things
I
want
you
to
understand.
As
I
talk
to
you
about
what
we
are
doing
here,
it
was
unanimous
consensus
that
we
came
to.
We
initiated
new
procedures
that
asked
agencies
from
the
community
who
do
not
ask
us
for
money
to
give
us
input
about
their
demographics,
their
clients,
the
things
they
thought
the
the
community
needed,
because
we
thought
it
would
make
a
difference
in
what
those
recommendations
would
be,
and
we
are
also
working
on
forms
that
the
committee
can
use
to
get
information
from
everyone.
P
So
you
have
in
front
of
you
the
list
of
all
of
our
recommendations,
and
I
would
point
you
to
page
one
about
two-thirds
of
the
way
down.
You
have
unknown
mental
health
provider.
You
have
binghamton
housing
out
of
school
program
and
you
have
the
city
of
binghamton
community
policing
going
down
to
the
bottom
of
that
page.
P
P
We
can't
we
and
if
that
money
had
been
allocated
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
emhast,
we
could
not
find
money
for
the
after-school
program
for
the
binghamton
housing
authority
and
we
could
only
give
the
community
policing
unit
three
thousand
dollars
during
the
course
of
our
discussion.
All
of
us
around
the
table
agreed
that
we
would
like
to
go
back
to
the
mayor
who
had
made
that
recommendation
about
amhas
and
talk
to
him
about
it.
P
As
the
chair,
I
was
the
person
who
went
to
talk
to
the
mayor.
Not
only
did
the
mayor
understand
and
agree
with
us,
he
even
made
sure
that
we
had
enough
money
to
give
to
the
after-school
program
and
more
to
give
to
the
community
policing
unit,
because
the
people
around
the
table
who
come
from
all
of
the
neighborhoods
in
this
community
thought
that
community,
policing
and
keeping
youth
busy
after
school
were
very,
very
essential
programs.
P
So
the
decisions
that
we
have
made
are
based
on
the
fact
that
we
looked
at
our
community,
not
through
statistics.
I'm
sorry
to
say
we
looked
at
them
as
it
affects
our
neighborhoods
here
in
the
first
ward,
we
have
had
a
neighborhood
watch
and
the
neighborhood
watch
does
not
necessarily
because
one
group
used
that
name
wrong
does
not
mean
it's
a
bad
thing.
We've
been
able
to
do
things
that
have
made
the
people
in
this
neighborhood
feel
a
whole
lot
more
comfortable,
and
that
was
the
attitude
that
we
had
around
the
table.
P
The
other
thing
that
happened
this
year
that
has
never
happened
before
is
the
coc
usually
makes
recommendations
on
the
homeless
projects,
and
the
cdac
has
always
sort
of
bent
to
their
expertise
and
we've
accepted
their
programs
this
year.
We
did
not
do
that.
Some
people
around
the
table
felt
very
strongly
and
they
convinced
the
rest
of
us
that
we
needed
to
look
at
those
things
and
we
needed
to
make
our
own
recommendations.
P
I
Yeah,
absolutely
so,
I
want
to
stress
that
we
don't
yet
know
the
amount
of
money
that
the
city
will
be
getting
for
any
of
the
hud
grants.
Yet
normally
we
get
that
in
good
years
in
february
and
bad
years
in
april.
So
it's
not
a
great
indication
if
it's
almost
you
know
halfway
through
may
and
we
haven't
gotten
those
numbers
yet.
I
So
there
is
no
point
until
we
get
those
numbers
for
the
mayor
to
do
his
budget,
but
once
I
have
that
I
will
sit
down
with
the
mayor
and
deputy
mayor
and
help
them.
You
know
review
this
this
recommendation
and
help
him
determine
if
he
what
parts
he
wants
to
follow
and
if
he's
got
questions,
and
if
he
wants
more
clarification
from
various
departments,
we
can
definitely
we
can
definitely
get
into
that.
I
So
the
mayor's
budget
then
becomes
the
public
review
budget.
So
that
way,
the
public
is
able
to
review
the
final
budget
prior
to
city
council
approving
it
once
that
does
occur.
City
council
will
have
a
public
hearing,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
this
all
hammered
out
before
the
the
due
date
in
mid-july.
If
there
is
once
we
do
have
the
numbers
from
hud,
they
will
probably
give
us
an
extension
anyway,
just
due
to
the
lateness.
I
But
yes,
so
these
numbers
here
are
meeting
all
of
the
minimums
and
all
the
maximums
that
cdac
has
to
work
with.
Once
the
mayor
has
his
budget,
it
will
be
the
same
way,
we'll
make
sure
the
minimums
and
maximums
are
kept
just
looking
to
see
if
there's
anything
quite
different
or
unique.
We
do
not
yet
know
a
shadow,
a
a
home
community
housing
development
project.
Yet
we
are
working
on
that.
The
last
ones
from
previous
years
are
just
wrapping
up.
I
That
would
include
family
enrichment
networks,
virgil
street
property,
that
includes
greater
opportunities,
muscle
property,
and
that
includes
first
ward,
action,
council's
33,
linden
home
buyer
program
or
homebuyer
project.
So
we
do
not
yet
know
that,
but
that's
okay
for
now
similar
unknowns.
As
marianne
pointed
out,
the
unknown
mental
health
response
provider,
we
do
not
know
if
that
will
be
impassed
or
some
other
agency,
but
cdac
obviously
determined.
There
was
a
need
for
some
sort
of
mental
health
funding
going
forward.
H
Thank
you,
council
president
strong.
I
just
want
to
say
kudos
to
you,
marianne
and
team,
since
you
will
take
the
word
back
and
thieve
because
being
a
member
of
the
committee,
I've
seen
the
changes
in
dates
and
due
dates
and
all
of
the
different
inquiries
that
occurred
not
only
during
the
meetings
but
through
the
number,
numerous
emails
going
back
and
forth,
and
I
was
just
invigorated
by
the
communications
I
received
from
all
of
your
committee
members.
H
So
I
just
want
to
say
kudos
to
you
guys
and
thank
you
for
giving
us
this
comprehensive
list
and
we
will
be
able
to
follow
up
well.
I
will
follow
up
directly
to
if,
if
I
have
questions
regarding
some
of
the
allocations
again,
I
know
we
don't
have
the
final
number,
but
I
think
what
you've
given
us
is
dramatically
different
from
what
we've
seen
in
the
past
so
again
kudos
to
you
guys.
Thank
you.
P
C
Thank
you,
mr
president.
Yeah
thank
you
steve
and
marianne.
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
I
I
got
lucky
I
want
to
thank
michelle
lachlan.
She
calls
me
regularly
yes
and
keeps
me
informed
of
what's
going
on
and
it
amazes
me
how
how
hard
she
works,
and
I
know
that
all
of
you
work
that
hard.
You
know.
So
it's.
C
P
G
I
I
P
I
Yeah-
and
I
I'll
just
say,
unfortunately,
the
the
last
two
appointees
came
in
just
right
at
the
very
end
of
the
process.
So,
unfortunately
they
weren't
able
to
engage
in
this
budget
vote,
but
they
will
be
able
to
progress
going
forward
which
will
include
the
summer
on-site
monitoring
visits
as
well
as
spinning
up
again
to
restart
to
start
the
whole
process
again
in
september.
B
Thank
you,
mr
president.
Gonna
take
five
seconds
here
to
sound
a
little
corny
and
thank
marianne
callahan
who's
been
representing
the
award
on
this
over
the
last
six
and
a
half
years.
I
feel
like
the
appointment
that
I
got
to
offer
was
a
simple
one,
so
I
I'm
sure
you'll
have
things
to
catch
me
up
on
more
specifically
whether
it's
first
district
or
anything
else.
I'm
sure
you'll
do
that
at
some
point
tomorrow,
when
you
call
me
to
follow
up
on
something
else
as
it
relates
to
it.
B
B
So
I
know
that's,
I
know
that's
something
that
I've
heard
from
marianne,
and
I
appreciate
my
colleagues
who
stepped
up
and
you
know,
found
someone
in
their
respective
seat.
I
think
we,
if
anybody
does
have
a
name,
mr
president,
I'll
suggest
that
maybe
we
start
forwarding
cvs
or
resumes
to
you
and
and
the
clerk's
office,
so
those
can
be
aggregated
and
distributed
to
the
body.
This
seems
like
a
a
vote
just
like
steve
had
mentioned.
B
B
So
we
do
have
a
a
pretty
robust,
neighborhood
watch
in
the
ward.
I
would,
I
would
suggest,
to
everyone,
go
to
nnw.org
november
november
whiskey.
We,
I
think
we
often
tend
to
forget
that
the
neighborhood
watch
is
actually
not
the
name
of
the
organization.
It's
actually
the
national
neighborhood
watch.
They
are,
you
know
a
fully
501c3,
they
offer
they
offer
strategies
and
resources
to
establish
local
local
organizations
and
local
clubs.
B
If
you
will
so
there's
a
very
positive
nuance
with
that
name
because
it
carries
weight.
Obviously,
some
people
have
negated
that
in
a
negative
way
over
time,
but
I
think
it's
just
important
and
if
you
don't
have
a
neighborhood
watch
in
your
neighborhood
or
community
or
on
your
side
of
the
town
and
that's
a
good
place
to
go
to
to
reference.
So
thank
you,
mr
president,.
K
A
K
M
That
is
true.
I
have
given
my
notice
of
retirement
that
the
27th
this
month
will
be
my
last
day
at
the
plant,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
representing
the
city
in
this
valley
and
the
way
you
do
and
I
have
appreciated
working
with
you
and
for
the
most
part.
I
agree
with
all
of
you
and
I
hope
that
whenever
you
have
challenged
me,
I
presented
our
position
well,
and
I
know
you
have
done
the
same.
So
thank
you
all
very
much.
L
M
Q
M
Place,
no,
actually,
you
will
be
familiar
with
the
name
who
has
been
earmarked
and
accepted
the
position.
So
I
I
won't
steal
any
thunder
there,
but
I
don't
think
you'll
be
greatly
surprised
and
I
think
it
will
be
a
good
choice
and
I
think
she
will
hit
the
ground
running
and
I
hope
you
treat
her
as
well.
As
you
have
treated
me.
K
R
Yes,
good
evening,
council
members,
this
is
a
rl
that
the
planning
department
is
hoping
to
establish
for
a
determination
of
historical
significance
for
demolition
of
unsafe
accessory
structures,
and
the
motivation
behind
this
rl
is
to
expedite
the
review
period
for
determinations
of
historical
significance
for
unsafe
accessory
structures
and
those
particularly
that
are
in
such
a
state
of
disrepair
and
deterioration
that
they've
almost
collapsed
upon
themselves,
and
so
we're
really
hoping
to
ease
the
burden
and
period
of
review
time
on
private
property
owners
within
the
city.
By
doing
this,.
R
There
is
a
definition
of
an
accessory
structure
which
we've
defined
as
any
subordinate
structure
located
on
the
lot,
the
use
of
which
is
clearly
incidental
to
and
associated
with
the
principal
structure.
So
in
most
cases
it
would
be
things
like
barns,
garages,
carriage
houses,
things
like
that,
but
it
could
include
things
like
sheds
or
you
know,
gazebos
or
greenhouses
in
the
city
of
binghamton.
Q
Q
Q
R
S
A
A
J
The
budget
amount
for
the
parks.
What
they
want
to
do
is
hire
a
higher
level
person
at
a
15
an
hour
labor
rate
than
what
was
in
the
budget
they're
going
to
keep
the
budget
exactly
the
same.
They're
just
changing
the
type
of
people
that
they're
going
to
hire
to
help
make
the
summer
go
better
for
them,
they're
not
going
to
exceed
what
they
have
in
the
budget.
J
K
J
J
A
L
L
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
H
L
Q
Q
B
A
J
That's
also
leaving
and
taking
another
position
at
the
sewage
treatment
plant
we've
been
able
between
sharon,
and
I
we've
been
able
to
find
the
assistant
comptroller
and
we've
been
able
to
find
a
payroll
person
in
order
to
make
all
this
happen,
I'm
asking
you
to
reduce
the
assistant
comptroller's
position
from
61
800
a
year
down
to
59
000
and
increase
the
payroll
position
from
forty
two
thousand
seven.
Forty
five
to
forty
four
seven.
J
M
F
T
Is
that
lot
on
the
corner
of
liberty
and
muscle
street
as
part
of
the
north
side
rehabilitation
project,
the
lots
on
lion
street
will
be
the
parking
lot
to
support
that
affordable
housing
project
and
then
the
lots
on
muscle
street
are
not
exactly
adjacent
to
that
project.
But
there's
one
remaining
residential
house
that
I
think
the
the
owner
has
has
passed
away.
So
I
think
greater
opportunities
is
hopeful
that
they'll
fire
that
one
as
well.
T
For
now,
the
way
the
legislation
will
be
written,
it's
greater
opportunities
will
be
keeping
those
lots
green
space
and
if
they
were
to
change
that
in
the
future
like
to
come
back
to
us,
was
an
affordab
another
affordable
housing
project.
That
would
just
need
planning
commission
approval
in
order
to
do
that,
but
there's
nothing
currently
planned
yet
for
those
lots.
T
Yes,
so
we
are
asking
for
this
to
be
expedited.
This
is
authorizing
the
sale
of
20
to
22,
while
ave
to
the
ywca
of
binghamton
and
broome
county.
This
is
for
the
ywca's
24
million
dollar,
affordable
housing
and
child
care
project.
Downtown
council
voted
unanimously
to
approve
this
back
in
january.
If
you
recall
why
we're
coming
back
to
you
now
is
the
ywca
is
asking
to
take
title
to
these
properties
by
the
end
of
the
month,
because
that
they
feel
it'll
help
them
bolster
a
grant
application.
T
So
the
way
that
the
current
legislation
that
council
has
approved
is
written
states
that
the
ywca
needs
planning.
Commission
approval
of
the
project
before
the
city
can
transfer
title,
which
is
our
standard
practice.
The
y
is
not
at
the
point
yet,
where
they're
ready
to
go
to
the
planning
commission
for
approval.
T
A
Q
Q
Q
There
was
a
resupport
case
in
which
the
court
disagreed
and
found
that
it
was
improper,
constitutionally
proper
to
count
points
towards
for
calls
by
domestic
violence,
victims
or
tenants
or
owners
who
called
for
police
assistance.
Quite
frankly,
I
I
have
been
the
person
that
enforced
our
law
for
the
last
20
years.
We
never
did
that.
It's
just
always
been
seen
like
common
sense.
Why
would
that
would
be
stupid
to
do
that?
Q
Other
communities
who
used
the
law
almost
exactly
like
ours
were
not
as
prudent
in
doing
that,
and
so
there
was
a
constitutional
challenge
and
it
was
struck
down
because
it
was
improper.
Quite
frankly,
I
think,
which
is
bad
legal
advice
in
those
communities,
because
no
one
should
have
ever
done
that
in
the
first
place.
But
what
we're
doing
is
amending
the
law
proposing
to
amend
the
law
so
that
it
removes
that
type
of
discretion,
so
that
it
is
explicitly
spelled
out
in
the
law
that
you
don't
or
garner
points.
H
Q
Q
Q
I
can
provide
it
to
you
and
maybe
highlight
the
portions
where
the
changes
are
occurring,
so
you
know
exactly
what's
being
changed.
The
other
thing
that
we'll
be
doing
is
there's
a
list
of
points.
Well,
obviously,
we're
removing
marijuana
and
all
mentions
of
marijuana
out
of
that
list,
because
that's
not
been
legalized
since
that,
since
the
law
was
last
used.
So
it's
not
something
that's
a
highlight
of
this,
but
it's
just
something
that,
while
we're
doing
it
might
as
well
update
everything.
Q
I
will
not
say
that
it's
not
from
a
template,
methazine
who's
here
with
us-
she
actually
took
like
town
and
union.
Did
this
very
similar
thing.
Johnson's
john
city
did
a
very
similar
thing.
Basta
did
a
very
similar
thing.
She
took
those
and
sort
of
conformed
it
to
be
our
statute
and
perform
with
what
we
have
on
the
books.
Okay,.
Q
Q
That's
why
I
suggested
that
I
will
shade
the
areas
that
were
here's
the
question
there's
a
whole
section,
an
article
of
it
that
deals
with
the
administrative
procedure,
that's
just
being
stricken
altogether.
Do
you
want
to
see
what's
being
removed
totally
for
this,
when
it
was
adopted?
My
advice
to
the
council
that
adopted
was
that
you
should
not
do
this,
because
this
is
bad.
The
administrative
procedure
is
bad,
so
we
never
used
it.
Do
you
want
to
see
that
as
well?
Q
Q
Q
Q
H
A
Okay,
now
we'd
like
to
have
a
quick
discussion
about
our
meetings.
A
memo
later
late
this
afternoon,
brian
sent
lean
in
memo,
and
I
forwarded
it
probably
about
10
minutes
later
to
all
of
you.
I
don't
know
if
anybody
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
so
before
they
start,
I
mean
the
gist
of
it,
at
least
on
the
starting
point
is
as
of
right
now.
A
So
as
of
right
now,
the
work
session
on
june
21st
will
have
to
be
in
this
room
in
person
where
the
public
allowed
to
be
in
this
room
on
june
21st
as
of
right
now
and
then
moving
forward.
Obviously,
if
the
governor
extends
the
state
of
emergency,
then
that
could
move
back,
but
my
understanding
is
that
laurie
and
her
team
and
corporate
council
are
working
to
that
end
as
far
as
security
and
things
that
need
to
be
done
in
here
to
make
sure
that
we're
ready
for
that.
A
Q
Q
Let
me
put
it
this
way:
there
are
some
questions
about
this
new
law
that,
even
when
we
asked
the
committee
in
open
government-
and
we
asked
some
of
the
nikon,
the
people
who
know
they're
like
we're
not
exactly
sure
what
they
meant
here,
what
they
meant
there.
The
other
thing
is
that,
if
you
wanted
to
take
advantage
of
the
opportunity
of
the
new
law
to
adopt
a
local
law
that
would
allow
for
remote
participation,
it
is
something
that
has
to
be
very
specific.
It
has
to
be
something
that's
exceptional
circumstances.
Q
Which
they
define
as
sort
of
defined
at
one
point
as
being
unexpected,
but
you're
also
expected
to
give
seven
days
notice
beforehand
before
you
do
it
so
to
me,
something
that's
unexpected
happens
in
the
seven
day
window,
so
not
exact.
That's
why
I'm
saying
that
there's
there's
issues
there
with
how
that
is
interpreted,
the
safest
bet,
the
safest
way
to
proceed,
I
believe,
is
to
return
to
in-person
meetings
in
terms
of
legal
requirements
and
making
sure
that
no
one
challenges
your
meetings
as
being
a
violation.
You
open
meetings.
Q
You
can
continue
to
operate
as
we
have
been
until
june,
9th
at
any
point
or
actually
donate,
but
at
any
point
after
that,
you
still
have
the
right
to
adopt
the
local
law
to
take
advantage
of
this
of
what
they
passed
up
until
you
adopt
the
local
law,
which
means
it
takes
effect.
30
days
after
it's
passed
here
and
sent
to
the
secretary
of
state,
that's
what
would
become
effective
until
it
had
become
effective.
You
could
not
operate
or
appear
remotely
or
take
advantage
of
that
law
or
the
procedure
that
you
enact.
Q
M
A
Clarity
on
what
what
that
would
actually
look
like
yeah,
that's
correct
and
one
more
thing
for
me
and
then
then
I'll
open
up.
So
if
you
were
to
adopt
a
local
law
to
allow
that
under
extraordinary
circumstances,
regardless
of
the
time
frame,
does
that
mean
that
every
single
meeting
you
would
have
to
be
prepared
for
that,
regardless
of
whether
anybody
took
advantage
of
that
or
not
including
the
public?
Would
you
have
to
another?
Did
you
have
to
prepare
basically
for
in
here
in
there?
Even
if
nobody
used.
B
Q
My
read
of
the
statute
was
that
you
would
have
to
have
the
technical
technology,
the
technology
or
the
technical
capabilities
to
pull
that
off,
but
that
you,
unless
someone
was
taking
advantage
of
it,
you
wouldn't
have
to
have
it
online,
which
creates
a
real
problem
for
me,
because
then,
how
do
people
know
where
they
can
participate
remotely?
Where
they're
going?
Q
It
may
make
sense,
then,
to
adopt
the
local
law
to
allow
that
person
to
appear
remotely,
and
then
you
would
have
that
technology
in
place
on
a
routine
basis.
During
that
duration
and
there's
some
other
family,
they
could
have
a
family
member,
their
care
primary
caregiver
for
and
it
would
allow
them
to
attend
remotely.
But
those
are
kind
of
some
limited
circumstances
and
you
always
have
that
option.
If
that
were
to
prevent
itself
of
doing
it,.
A
Q
F
Q
Q
Obviously
you
can't
just
make
up
a
region
and
say
I
I
meet
that
standard.
It
has
to
be
something:
that's
like
you're,
a
caregiver
you're
have
a
personal
illness.
You
have
a
disability,
there's
a
list
of
things.
The
state
suggests
we
have
wracked
our
brain
attending
a
funeral.
Some
of
those
things
might
qualify.
Q
I
don't
mean
to
be
callous,
but
we've
dealt
with
those
issues
for
the
last
100
years
and
the
way
that
happened
is
you
missed
a
meeting
for
most
of
those
things
and
it's
not
the
end
of
the
world.
Now
listen.
If
it's
going
to
be
an
ongoing
situation,
that's
going
to
be
six
eight
months.
You
know
where
you're,
that's
something
that
we
haven't
crossed.
That's
not
a
bridge.
We've
brought
in
those
cases.
People
have
resigned,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
that's
required
now
there
may
be
technology
technology
allowed
to
get
around
that.
F
And-
and
I
don't
know
if
we've
addressed
this
yet
but
then
how
how
would
this
policy
affect
the
public's
about
ability
to
participate
remotely?
I
know
that
we
said,
or
I
think
anecdotally.
We've
said
that
we
do
want
to
keep
the
meetings
streaming
to
youtube,
because
I,
I
think
that's
a
a
great
benefit.
I.
F
F
H
F
F
I
know
people
have
been
antsy
to
get
back
here
in
person,
but
also,
I
think,
the
virtual
the
ability
to
participate
virtually
has
opened
up
access
to
the
meetings
to
members
of
the
public
in
a
way
that
we
haven't
seen
before,
and
I
I
understand
the
logistical
like
the
people
challenges
and
just
saying,
like
okay,
anyone
can
participate
from
anywhere
like
you
can't
do
that,
but
you
know
it
does
seem
like
I.
I
was.
F
F
Q
Q
A
Yeah,
I
that's
why
I
asked
about
the
date:
if
the
date's
not
there,
that
we
we're
going
to
have
options
available
to
us
ongoing,
I
think,
coming
out
of
the
gate.
We
don't
have
the
resources
or
the
logistics
to
pull
off
both
things
at
the
same
time,
but
if
it
it
remains
an
option
to
us,
then
I
think
we
keep
that
in
front
of
us.
Well,
it's.
B
B
There
there
may
be,
I
I
just
the
the
reality
of
it
is.
Is
it
it
would
seem
to
me
that
I
I
mean
for
what
it's
worth
right.
I
mean
look
at
what
we're
doing
right
now,
we're
both
in
person
and
using
zoom.
So
I
I
definitely
understand
that
there's
some
interim
period
with
respect
to
june
8th
and
then
moving
forward.
A
Councilman,
I
I
don't
disagree
with
you,
but
as
of
right
now
that's
up
to
the
governor.
We
won't
have
a
choice
after
june
8th
and
we
redid
this
whole
room,
so
there
could
be
social
distancing
and
spacing
so
and
even
if
we
did
have
a
choice
that
wouldn't
be
that
wouldn't
be
the
prerogative
to
be
able
to
use
it.
For
that
reason,
so
I.
Q
Q
At
the
end
of
this
law
that
says
that
if
there
is
a
local
state
of
emergency
declared
which,
if
every
single
council
person
had
to
be
quarantined,
I
believe
a
mayor
will
be
justified
in
declaring
a
state
of
emergency
simply
so
that
you
could
use
this
type
of
procedure
to
conduct
business
now.
It
may
have
to
wait
for
seven
days,
but
he
could
declare
it
and
it
could
go
forward
on
a
remote
basis.
Under
that
circumstance.
B
What
honestly
is
is
a
rarity
and
a
low
possibility
to
explain
all
other
outcomes,
but
I
just
think-
and
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
I
understand
that
there's
an
interim
period
post
the
june
8th,
but
I
think
this
warrants
a
discussion
into
what
potentially
can
be
done.
I
think
we
should
probably
have
that
discussion,
maybe
at
the
next.
Q
Work
session,
listen
aside
from
what
I
sent
you
in
the
memo,
I
think
it
would
be
wise,
given
the
fact
that
we
do
have
this
technology
to
come
up
with
a
protocol,
so
that
when
you
need
to
use
it
in
an
emergency,
you
know
you
have
it
in
place
so
that
it
can
be
implemented
quickly
rather
than
trying
to
do
it
on
the
fly.
So
I
think,
for
some
reason
what
you're
saying
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
get
back
to.
B
Q
B
B
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
now
like
I
said,
I
think
that's
why
we
don't
have
a
deadline
per
se,
so
my
guess
is
that
these
rules
will
hopefully
become
a
little
more
clear
as
to
what's
possible,
but
if
we
can
do
something
simple
that
allows
for
something
we
just
have
to
make
sure
that
we
have.
You
know
we
can
be
consistent
and
be
fair
about
it.
When
we
how
we
apply
it
exactly.
A
A
Q
A
P
A
N
The
court
system
is
masks
required.
That's
because
the
office
of
court
administration
still
has
not
changed
their
rules
with
that
said,
absence
outside
the
courts.
We
abide
by
new
york
state
law
which,
if
you
are
vaccinated,
no
mask,
is
required.
This
council
can
adopt
its
own
rules
for
the
chamber
and
swells
method
of
proceeding,
as
we've
discussed
about
previously.
N
So,
if
you'd
like
to
meet
either,
I
know
you
have
a
safety
committee.
I
don't
know
exactly
what
it's
called,
but
I
know
there's
one
that
covers
it
and
it's
it's
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
mta
committee.
Certainly
you
can
meet
and
discuss
the
rules
of
this
body
and
the
members
of
public
participating.