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A
B
A
C
Yes,
councilman
scramji,
president
councilwomani
president
councilman
Riley,
president
councilwoman
Friedman,
president
councilman
Burns,
president
councilman
Scanlon
president
and
president
strong
president.
That's
all
seven
here.
A
E
Okay,
I
am
Greg
Evans
from
the
bonadio
group.
I.
Am
the
audit
partner
on
your
audit
engagement
here
to
present
the
results
of
the
2021
audit?
E
Obviously
we're
here
in
November
of
2022
that
the
timing
is
not
ideal.
We'd
like
to
get
this
done
a
little
bit
sooner.
Basically,
what
what
happens
and
has
been
happening.
The
last
couple
years
is:
we
have
to
wait
for
the
joint
Seward
treatment
plan,
financial
statements
to
be
issued
because
that
gets
accounted
for
in
a
lot
of
the
numbers
we
have
in
front
of
us
today.
So
that's
why
that
pushes
us
back
into
November,
or
you
know
the
presentation
November,
the
issuance
was
in
September,
so
I'll.
E
Take
you
to
a
quick
presentation
of
those
audit
results.
We'll
skip
right
over
to
page
two
of
the
presentation
I
handed
out.
We
were
engaged
to
do
an
audit
of
your
financial
statements.
We
were
also
engaged
to
do
two
different
single
audits,
one
of
your
federal
funds
and
one
of
your
New
York
State
Department
of
Transportation
funds
over
on
page
three,
the
results
of
those
audits,
the
financial
statements
I
always
point
out.
The
numbers
are
yours:
it's
my
job
to
give
an
opinion
on
those
financial
statements.
E
The
opinion
is
an
unmodified
opinion,
which
is
a
clean
opinion.
The
highest
level
of
assurance
I
can
give
you
on
those
financial
statements
exactly
what
you're
looking
for
as
part
of
those
financial
statements,
we
do
them
in
accordance
with
government
auditing
standards,
which
means
we
look
at
your
internal
controls
over
financial
reporting.
E
Happy
to
report
no
findings
this
year,
always
a
good
place
to
be
as
part
of
that,
I
always
point
out
the
fact
that
if
there
was
adjusting
journal
entries
proposed
by
me,
you
would
have
a
finding
known
as
a
material
weakness,
meaning
we
could
not
give
you
that
clean
opinion
happy
to
report
no
adjusting
journal
entries
this
year,
so
we're
in
good
shape
there
onto
page
four.
What
is
our
opinion
on
those
single
audits?
E
It's
an
unmodified
opinion,
meaning
we
looked
at
your
compliance
over
federal
regulations
and
we
had
no
issues
with
the
way
you
spent
those
federal
dollars,
also
an
unmodified
opinion
relative
to
the
New
York
State
Department
of
Transportation
funding.
E
As
part
of
your
audit,
we
looked
at
your
the
major
program
that
we
tested
this
year.
The
federal
program
was
the
arpa
funds,
the
state
and
local
fiscal
recovery
funds
in
2021.
You
spent
about
2.8
million
dollars
again
no
issues
there
relative
to
compliance
or
also
internal
controls
over
compliance.
E
And
then,
on
page
five
I
just
pulled
together
a
few
of
the
what
I
thought
were
the
financial
statement
highlights
on
the
fund
financial
statement
to
always
point
out
that
you
have
two
different
financial
statements
in
there
you
have
government-wide
financial
statements,
which
are
all
the
assets
and
liabilities
of
the
city
pulled
together
generally,
not
as
useful
for
your
purposes
over
on
the
fund
financial
side,
the
Gen
fund
is
sort
of
your
main
operating
fund.
E
For
the
year
we
had
a
decrease
in
that
fund
balance
of
4.2
million
dollars
you
had
budgeted
to
in
your
original
budget
use
about
2.3
million
dollars,
so
a
significant
swing
there,
mostly
due
to
additional
transfers
to
your
capital
projects
fund
that
you
approved
after
year
end
I,
always
point
out
that
unassigned
fund
balance
is
basically
your
savings
account
no
restrictions
attached
to
that.
We
always
look
at
that
in
terms
of
your
annual
expenditures
down
to
about
nine
percent
of
your
annual
expenditures.
E
Prior
year,
you
were
at
about
20,
so
you
did
use
up
some
of
that
fund
balance
as
I
just
pointed
out,
and
obviously
that
was
for
cap
projects.
E
I
will
point
out
that
your
unspent
arpa
funds
are
located
in
your
balance
sheet
under
unearned
revenue,
and
that
was
about
20
million
dollars.
Until
those
dollars
are
actually
expended,
they
will
be
hung
up
as
a
liability.
E
Sales
tax
recorded
exceeded
your
budget
by
about
2.3
million
dollars
or
18.
We
saw
that
across
the
state
just
about
everybody
ended
up
with
more
sales
tax
than
expected
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
expenditures
you
spent
in
the
Gen
fund
about
3.5
million
dollars
less
than
you
originally
had
budgeted
for,
with
employee
benefit
expenditures
coming
in
about
1.8
million
dollars
under
budget
again.
This
is
something
that
we've
seen
across
the
state
employee
benefits
just
generally
coming
in
lower.
E
E
Okay,
in
terms
of
the
cap
projects
fund,
you
do
have
still
some
projects
going
on
and
you
have
9.7
million
dollars
in
restricted
cash
still
sitting
there
for
that,
and
a
bond
anticipation
note
payable
of
about
38
million
dollars
as
that's
converted
to
long-term
financing
that
capital
projects
fund
deficit
will
go
away
and
that
will
be
converted
to
revenue.
I
always
point
that
out,
because
it
looks
a
little
bit
odd
to
see
that
the
negative
unbalance
there
for
cap
projects.
E
So
that's
the
very
quick
presentation.
Obviously
you
know
the
audit
went
well
Chuck
and
his
staff
were
very
helpful
in
getting
us
through
it.
No
no
major
issues,
no
findings
and
again
the
single
audit.
When
it's
planned
with
no
findings,
there
either
be
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
Some
questions
for
Mr
Robbins
on
the
the
audit.
B
Thanks
for
being
here,
yeah
sure
the
so
the
you're
saying
here
that
the
fund
balance
as
of
today
is
that
is
at
today,
5
million
300
000.
That
yeah.
B
Does
that
include,
because
it
says
the
decrease
in
the
fund
balance
of
4
million
and
was
expected
to
use
2.3
million?
Are
we
going
to
use?
Where
do
we
use?
That
is
that
2.3
million
that
we're
going
to
use
okay.
E
Yeah
total
fund
balance
was
just
under
16
million,
so
I
always
look
at
that.
Unassigned
one,
which
is
no
strings
attached,
you
haven't
you
know,
assigned,
is
usually
for
next
year's
budget.
Whether
that's
encumbrances
or
appropriated
for
next
year's
budget
and
restricted
is
your
reserved.
So
when
I
say
that
5.4
million
that's
the
total,
you
know
no
strings
attached.
B
E
B
E
That
was
the
amount
you
had
appropriated
from
the
prior
year.
That
basically
I
mean
the
goal.
Obviously,
every
year
is
to
balance
revenues
and
expenditures,
and
you
usually
try
to
use
a
little
bit
of
fund
balance.
If
you
have
significant
fund
balance,
like
you
did
to
balance
that
so
it's
essentially
kind
of
comes
in
as
a
revenue,
so
you
actually
used
a
little
bit
more
than
you
had
anticipated
for
the
year.
E
A
Councilman
cringy
go
ahead.
Thank.
F
You
Mr
President
thanks
so
much
for
being
with
us
today
and
for
all
the
work
that
you
guys
put
into
the
I
wanted
to
take
a
quick
note.
So
there's
both
an
individual
and
I
guess
somewhat
of
a
more
Collective
question
around
the
state
with
respect
to
you
and
your
firm's
experience
of
auditing
other
Municipal
governments.
F
So
you
talked
about
the
liability
factor
of
the
unused
ARP
of
funds
right
right,
which
makes
sense
just
from
an
accounting
perspective
because
they
have
not
been
allocated
for
anything.
Yet
that
being
said,
given
my
first
question
is
given
that
the
unallocated
portion
is
being
viewed
as
a
liability.
How
are
you
controlling
for
the
fact
that
it's
on
the
liability
side,
but
it's
technically
not
a
hit
on
this
city?
If
that
makes
sense.
E
Yeah
I
think
so
so
I
mean
basically
you
have
the
catch
right,
yeah
so
which
is
sort
of
unusual
for
most
of
the
the
federal
grants
that
we
receive,
but
usually
on
the
reimbursement
basis,
meaning
you
spend
the
money
you
get
it
and
you
get
it
back
at
some
points.
So
this
money
was
actually
fronted
to
you,
yeah
for
the
purposes
of
arpa
which,
as
we
know,
have
changed
over
time.
So
that's
why
it's
a
liability,
so
you
have
it
sitting
there
in
cash
and
then
you
have
to
do
something
with
it.
F
E
F
Exactly
the
second
question,
which
I
guess
is
the
more
broad
one
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
in
any
way
shape
or
form
in
a
broad
sense,
speak
to
the
experiences
that
you've
had
with
and
your
firm
auditing
other
municipalities
around
New
York
State
given
last
year
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
can
speak
to
where
we
stack
up
within
the
mix
of
arpa
funds
and
the
use,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
people.
Understandably.
F
So
because
it's
not
out
there
I,
don't
think
a
lot
of
people
actually
realize
the
amount
of
arpa
funds
that
for
legal,
categorical
reasons
are
being
used
for
operational
aspects
of
Municipal
governments
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
the
commonality
of
that,
how
often
you're
seeing
that
and
maybe,
if
you
can,
where
Binghamton
kind
of
stacks
up
respectively.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah
I
mean,
and
again
this
is
opinion.
Only
at
this
point,
I
I
would
say:
Binghamton
has
done
a
good
job
of
finding
projects.
You
know,
as
opposed
to
operational
type.
You
know,
build
the
budget
type
gaps
which
which
of
course
becomes
dangerous,
because
once
that
money's
gone,
if
you
have
a
program,
a
salary
or
whatever,
you
got
to
find
ways
to
fund
that.
So
I
do
think
that
Binghamton
has
done
a
good
job,
finding
those
those
projects
and,
quite
honestly,
I.
E
You
know,
we've
seen
across
the
state
a
lot
of
people
still
holding
on
to
you,
know
significant
dollars
and
and
not
really
doing
a
ton
of
planning
for
various
reasons,
but
I
mean
the
reality
is
we
are
getting
towards
the
end
of
you
know
when
you
have
to
have
it
done
so
you
have
to
have
your
funds
obligated
by
the
end
of
2024.
E
You
have
to
have
your
projects
finished
by
the
end
of
2026.,
so
you
know
I
always
point
that
out
I
mean
there
are
municipalities
that
you
know
certainly
haven't
done
much
and
I'm
sort
of
prodding
them
to
all
right.
But
let's
make
some
plans
here.
E
A
Anything
else
from
Mr
Evans
on
the
the
audit
we
just
got
these,
would
you
be
available
email
or
we
funnel
some
things
to
check
if
anything
comes
up,
I'd
like
to
go
through
more,
obviously,
that's
pretty.
We
used
to
looking
at
financial
statements,
but
it's
a
pretty
pretty
large
with
the
single
audits,
included
and
stuff
like
that.
If
we
had
any
kind
of
follow-ups
or
any
clarification.
E
A
Sure,
right,
you
know
some
of
the
notes
and
some
of
the
the
you
know
the
after
litigation
stuff
I
want
to
kind
of
just
look
through
them.
I
don't
know
if
I'll
have
anything
but
definitely
be
you
know,
don't
want
to
spend.
You
know
tons
of
time
right
now
with
everything
going
on,
but
anybody
else
have
anything
right
now
for
for
Mr,
Evans.
G
Thank
you
again.
Thank
you,
council
president,
not
again,
but
thank
you
hello.
How
are
you
thank
you
for
being
here
just
before
you
leave
I
know
in
the
letter
to
the
city
council
again,
because
we
just
received
this.
It
does
speak
to
the
summary
of
unadjusted
differences
that
summarize
uncorrected
misstatements
in
the
financial
statements
and
you've
outlined
them,
but
then
what
has
happened
since.
E
The
larger
one
was
something
that
we
passed
on
last
year,
so
the
effect
of
it
is
this
year
that
goes
away
and
the
reason
we
passed
on
it
was,
for
you
know
two
two
reasons:
one:
it
wasn't
material
and
and
two
it
was
a
timing
issue
that
you
know
with
immaterial
entries
we
sort
of
let
them
just
flush
flush
out
over
the
two-year
period.
So
that's
what
you
see
there,
the
other
one
was
was
clearly
I,
think
it
was
24
000,
clearly
not
Material,
so
it
certainly
at
some
point
in
time.
E
During
the
audit,
it
does
take
effort
to
run
those
through
those
financial
statements.
So
that's
why
you
know-
and
you
know,
obviously
not
the
goal
to
pass
on
those
things,
but
at
some
point
then
we
just
have
to
okay
that
one
doesn't
matter
and
sort
of
move
on,
so
we
can
get
the
audit
done,
but
we
are
required
to
report
that
to
you.
So
that's!
That's
what
goes
down.
E
Yeah,
it's
it
and
I
don't
have
that
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
we
do
it
on
basically
by
each
fund.
So
we
have
one,
for
we
have
a
different
dollar
amount
for
the
general
fund,
the
capital
projects
fund,
and
then
we
have
an
additional
amount
for
the
government-wide
fund,
which
would
certainly
be
higher
because
again,
that's
all
of
your
assets
and
liabilities
together.
So
that's
sort
of
a
a
moving
Target.
A
A
Okay,
Chief
Sakowski.
A
How
are
you
good,
how
are
you
good
all
right
tell
us
about
our
l22
259,
A
and
269.
I
All
in
one
here
well,
the
first
one
is:
we
had
a
car
totaled.
One
of
our
investigators
was
sitting
at
a
red
light
and
somebody
came
up
cloud
in
the
back
of
them.
So
we
settled
the
Corp
Council
settled
with
the
insurance
company
for
13
953
Chuck
says
we
have
to
put
that
going
into
the
Insurance
Recovery
Fund
then
move
it
back
out
in
the
vehicle
front
in
order
to
for
the
dollars
to
replace
that
vehicle.
I
D
I
Well,
this
would
this
isn't
even
enough
to
make
up
for
one?
Oh,
okay,
so
we're
putting
it
there.
We're
gonna
have
to
add
money
to
it.
It's
an
unmarked
car.
It
wasn't
patrol
cars.
Unmarked
cars
are
quite
a
bit
less
expensive
than
marked
Vehicles.
This
was
an
unmarked
vehicle.
You
know
we
just
buy.
You
know,
go
to
bidder
kind
of
you
know,
usually
the
lowest
price
we
can
get
so
that
would
go
towards
purchasing
one
vehicle.
G
I
This
apples
and
oranges-
okay,
the
13
the
14
000
about-
is
going
into
a
line
just
for
police
vehicles,
okay
by
itself
the
rest
of
the
money
that
we're
moving
is
going
into
an
equipment
line
and
not
for
vehicles
for
other
various
equipment.
Thank.
F
Go
ahead,
thank
you,
Mr
President,
thank
you
chief
for
coming
down.
Were
there
any
officers
that
were
involved
in
the
accident?
Are
they
okay.
I
I
A
K
A
A
J
L
J
K
I
I
I
know
what
it
is
now:
we've
basically
problems:
okay,
but
I
stand
corrected,
I
didn't
get
the
second
one.
The
second
one
is
well
I
I.
We
had
to
move
money.
The
council
that
we
had
eight
Vehicles
ordered,
if
you
guys
recall,
and
they
upped
the
price
on
us-
8
500
a
car.
If
we
wanted
to
keep
the
order
in.
So
we
took
money
out
of
this
line
that
we
had
to
pay
that
64
or
68
000,
and
now
we're
putting
it
back.
I
They've
been
ordered
for
almost
a
year,
so,
all
of
a
sudden
we
got
an
email
saying,
there's
a
price
increase
and
I
think
it's
criminal
8
500
a
car
just
about.
If
you
want
to
keep
this
order,
this
is
from
Ford.
The
each
car
went
up,
8,
500
and
I
came
to
council.
We
moved
68
000
hours
to
make
up
the
difference,
or
they
said
your
your
order's
canceled,
where
we
need
police
vehicles.
J
J
Okay
and
so
then
the
so
the
the
police
vehicle
so
okay
go.
If
we
could
flip
back
to
the
first
RL
with
the
the
unmarked
car
that
needs
to
be
replaced.
That
will
happen.
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
it,
so
that
the
police,
vehicle
accessories
will
need
to
be
ordered
separately
for.
I
J
I
J
I
We've
already:
that's
that's
where
that
68
000
went.
J
I
A
260
amend
the
fire
budget
for
accept
the
New
York
State
health
care
workers
bonus.
K
This
is
an
RL
that
Chief
Kerner
is
asked
to
be
expedited.
This
is
a
New
York
state
healthcare
worker
bonus
that
New
York
state
is
giving
out
to
multiple,
not
only
fire
departments,
but
people
that
I'm
gonna
say
work
through
the
pandemic
in
covet
type
situations,
whether
it's
nurses
and
things
of
that
nature
throughout
New,
York
State
and
each
firefighter
that's
eligible,
can
get
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
I
believe
it's
twice
over
a
six-month
period,
two
six
months
periods
that
they
have
to
certify
they
work
during
that
time
period.
K
That's
what
this
RL
is
for
the
first
one,
don't
know
what
the
exact
number
is.
I
know
we're
getting
ready.
It's
167,
934,
156
000
is
going
to
the
firefighters
themselves,
eleven
thousand
nine
thirty
fours
to
pay
for
the
city's
flight
contortion
tax.
K
F
Thank
you,
sir
Chuck.
Thank
you
is
the
reason
why
the
chief
is
asking
for
that
to
be
expedited.
Is
there
some
sort
of.
K
A
J
Thank
you,
president
strong.
So
you
said
that
New
York
state
is
giving
this
to
not
only
firefighters
but
other
essential
workers.
H
J
K
A
A
great
example
nursing
ambulance
and
for
us
it
was
office
of
mental
health,
but
not
ocfs,
I'm
not
trying
to
get
to
whatever,
but
we
have.
We
tried
to
get
it
as
far
as
we
could
and
a
lot
of
people
didn't
so
it
creates
a
little
bit
of
a
but
there's
nothing.
You
can
do
about
that.
There's
certain
lists
of
people
that
qualify.
Okay,
yes,
nursing,
EMT!
All
that
all
those
it.
K
Could
have
it
could
have
been
done
better.
In
my
opinion,
okay
I
mean
it.
Should
it
might
miss
my
opinion,
people
that
work,
the
M1
should
get
it.
People
that
aren't
working
should
not
get
it.
If
someone
was
out
sick,
they're
getting
it
okay,
they
never
worked
it.
Those
are
ways
I
think
the
state
should
have
done
this
better,
but
we're
following
the
guidelines
that
was
outlined
by
the.
D
Station
I
understand
Chuck's
concerns
about
the
program.
The
the
purpose
of
the
program
is
to
try
to
encourage
the
retention
of
people
who
provide
new
services
so
whether
they
were
actually
working
or
available
to
work
they're
still
eligible,
because
they
want
to
encourage
them
to
return
and
fill
those
rules.
D
J
Right
I
think
my
concern.
I
guess
is
more
so
you
know.
Obviously
people
who
are
front
facing
who
have
risky
jobs
who
work
through
covet
absolutely
deserve
Hazard
pay.
But
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
fit
that
description
that
are
not
accounted
for
in
this
specific
RL.
You
know
so
I'm
just
wondering
if,
like
how
some
people
who
don't
I
guess
they
wouldn't
be,
they
wouldn't
be
city
employees,
so.
A
C
J
L
A
Anything
else
for
Mr
shager
on
RL,
22,
260.
A
M
F
You
Mr
President,
hey
Grace
good
evening.
Thank
you
for
presenting
these
the
one
in
relation
to
helmet
hats
to
we
have
the
general
sense
of.
Is
there
certain
criteria
that
vets
would
need
to
meet
the
possibility
of
taking
advantage
of
this
program?
Is
it?
Is
there
any
like
City
residence
requirement
or
anything
like
that?
I
didn't
know
if
we
had
any
info
on
that
I.
M
Believe
at
the
Statewide
program,
I
can
get
more
information
on
that
I.
A
You
foreign
Grace
on
the
RL
22
263
and
264.
council
member
Friedman
go
ahead.
J
A
It
okay,
we
have
Mr
Mr
Merkel
for
one
two,
three
four
RLS
on
my
vpw.
A
Good
okay
looks
like
you
have
four
around
22
265
66,
68
and
76.
A
C
22
265
RL
is
for
the
increased
cost
of
fuel
bags,
production,
tip
and
feed
costs,
everything's
gone
up
and
we're
trying
to
adjust
it,
and
we
want
to
transfer
some
funds
to
cover
it.
J
Good
so
I,
if
I'm,
remembering
correctly
in
at
our
last
meeting,
we
also
were
increasing
the
budget
for
overtime
costs.
C
G
A
Okay,
RL
22
268.
C
Oh,
this
is
transfer
of
funds
to
help
cover
the
parts
we
had.
A
sweeper
unfortunately,
was
with
all
the
leaves
on
the
ground.
He
was
sweeping
some
of
the
streets
we
milled
to
pay
and
the
casting
was
pretty
high
and
he
did
some
damage
to
a
sweeper,
so
it
has
helped
cover
the
cost.
So
we
can
get
that
sweeper
back
on
the
road.
A
A
Okay
are
all
22
to
76.
C
Okay,
this
is
transfer
of
funds.
It's
a
personal
services.
I
had
a
Meo
open,
not
filled
so
I'm,
using
those
funds
to
transfer
to
cover
the
cost
of
tires
and
again
vehicle
parts
and
elevator
service
for
the
remainder
of
the
year
in
City,
Hall
and
again,
this
is
a
position
that
I've
had
empty
for
since
June.
D
A
You
pass
tomorrow:
okay,
we
have
Mr
shager,
RL,
22
261,.
A
What's
that
yeah,
that's
fine,
yep,
absolutely!
Okay,
we're
gonna
shift,
check's
gonna
heal
temporarily,
so
we
can
get
Billy
in
and
out.
So
she
can
go
home.
Thank
you
Billy.
So
you
have
three
270
271
and
272..
There's.
L
L
L
First,
one
is
to
request
an
increase
to
2500
for
permit
speeds
and
fines
to
be
taken
from
contingency
for
expenses
in
excess
of
budget
appropriation.
D
L
My
next
request
is
for
an
increase
of
33
277.14
to
be
taken
from
the
contingency
line.
This
amount
is
to
cover
the
remainder
of
the
legal
services
fees
for
the
Joe
bath
project,
foreign.
J
You
President
John
hi
Billy.
How
are
you
I'm
good?
How
are
you
good
thanks?
I'm,
sorry,
if
we
could
just
flip
back
to
270.,
I
was
just
wondering
what
the
increase
in
fines
and
fees
is
due
to
I'm.
Sorry,
if
you
mentioned
it
and
I
missed
it,
while
I
was
flipping
through
my.
L
Package
we
had
additional
fines
for
the
CN
bath
event
that
came
out
of
this
line
that
were
unexpected.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
RL
22
272.
L
All
right,
we
received
another
check
from
FEMA
and
I
am
requesting
this
to
be
expedited
so
that
I
can
give
payments
to
the
the
owners
we're
going
to
increase
the
emergency
Disaster
Assistance
by
295
73708
per
state
and
887
211.23
for
federal
emergency
Disaster,
Assistance.
A
Okay
are
out
to
22
273.
L
Okay,
I
need
to
make
an
adjust
some
adjustments
to
the
see
an
event
budget
accounts,
because
we
had
an
unexpectedly
large
water
bills
that
are
going
to
be
paid
out
of
the
equipment
and
capital
outlay.
So
I'm
requesting
an
additional
100,
000
and
it'll
be
moved
over
from
the
Professional
Services
equipment,
lease
and
Rental,
and
the
sludge
and
waste
disposal
wing.
J
Thank
you,
president
Trump,
so
similar
to
my
last
question.
Well,
this
is
a
corrective
expense,
but
this
is.
Are
we
anticipating
that
the
water
bills
will
continue
to
be
higher
than
normal,
or
are
they
back
to
what.
L
They'll
go
back
to
normal.
We
had
to
use
the
city
water
to
run
the
plant,
because
the
normal
process
is
to
the
effluent,
and
we
couldn't
do
that.
While
the
the
back
was
down.
Okay,.
J
A
Okay,
anything
else
for
Billy
on
this
one
or
any
other
any
of
the
four
or
else
for
me.
Nope.
A
K
261
I'm
asking
to
increase
the
staff
accountant
position
in
my
office
from
59
000
and
60.
000
positions
have
been
empty
since
May,
we're
able
to
make
an
offer
to
someone
at
sixty
thousand
and
hopefully
that
person
will
start
here
by
the
end
of
the
month
and
get
ready
for
the
year
end
and
the
money's
available
in
the
vacant
position.
Money
is
available
in
the
vacant
position.
I've
had
since
it's
been
during
the
year,
I
will
have
to
come
back
in
January
and
change
this
from
59
to
60
in
next
year's
budget.
A
Okay,
RL
22
267.
K
267
is
a
budget
amendment
based
off
of
the
settlement
agreement
we've
had
with
the
sewage
treatment
plant
project.
We
will
not
be
borrowing
16
million
549
549
000
as
we
get
this
settlement
I'm
paying
down
the
debt
associated
with
it.
A
K
277
is
to
increase
the
worker
count
fees
by
7,
700
hours
and
decrease
employee
benefits
by
7
700.
The
state
fees
came
in
higher
than
I
anticipated
that
we
we
have
to
pay
like
a
state
fee
related
to
a
worker
comp
insurance
bill,
foreign
I
think
I
have
like
20
000
in
there
and
I
it's
27
000.
A
Excuse
me:
okay,
any
questions
or
comments:
RL
22,
277.
A
.,
okay,
on
to
to
get
some
employees
committee
to
start.
K
A
K
K
So
that's
what
this
is
a
request
for
we'll
have
to
pass
legislation
saying
that
you
approve
it
and
we
have
to
I
believe
put
it
out
on
the
website
for
30
days
as
well
as
keeping
Lee's
office
for
30
days.
Then
we
can
send
it
to
the
state.
So
hopefully
we
get
it
film
by
euron,
they're,
very
close,
the
final
Roa
that
we
will
get
to
you
before
you
vote
on
it.
Okay,
I
have
some
changes.
I
gave
you
one
that
I
I
have
so
far,
but
I'm
still
working
on
getting
data
from
people.
K
K
K
Is
it
no,
you
have
to
do
it
during
the
administration.
So,
like
the
council
individuals,
you
go
from
I
think
when
you're
like
a
2019
to
2023,
you
have
to
do
it
one
one
three
month
period
during
that
time
period
in
the
new
cram
Administration,
it
goes
from
22
to
25
I
think
at
the
end
of
that
year.
Okay,
so
that's
what
this
is
for,
but
while
we're
doing
it
we're
going
to
implement
the
other
people
that
we
need
to.
K
K
G
We're
going
to
vote
on
legislation,
it's
not
an
individual
topic,
it's
based
upon
what
we're
voting
upon
for
the
rest
of
the
appointed
and
elected
officials
moving
forward.
So
is
there
current
legislation
written
in
our
document
that
yes
already
exists,
so
we
can
just
amend
what
we
have
in
existence?
No.
G
G
K
This
piece
of
legislation
will
mostly
affect
csca
management,
tested
employees
and
very
few
acquire
police
employees,
but
they
will
be
included
in
here,
and
what
this
is
is
that
this
encourages
people
not
to
use
their
sick
time.
Okay.
Currently
we
pay
out
sick
time
and
I'll.
Just
not
sure
this
is
100
positive,
but
I'll
use
a
person
may
have
256
days
when
they
retire.
K
We
pay
them
out,
two-thirds
of
a
hundred
and
fifty
or
a
hundred
days.
Okay,
those
additional
days
get
wasted,
and
sometimes
people
will
just
take
them
up
over
the
last
couple
years
of
being
knowing
that
they're
going
to
retire.
This
will
give
them
that
extra
100
days
added
to
their
time
of
service,
which
will
increase
their
retirement
plan
the
retirement
dollars
and
gives
them
an
incentive
not
to
do
that.
K
It
only
will
apply
to
a
person
that
retires
from
the
city
of
Binghamton
example
being
if
I
was
to
leave
the
city
of
Binghamton
this
year
or
next
year
and
not
retire,
I
would
not
get
any
of
that
benefit.
In
all,
my
sick
days
would
go
on
on
spent
back
to
the
city.
If
someone
only
had
156
days
and
got
paid
out
for
100,
they
would
get
no
benefit
for
this.
K
It
doesn't
doesn't
help
every
single
employee,
but
it
does
help
encourage
people
with
a
lot
of
sick
days
not
to
go
out
and
take
them
over
the
last
three
years,
which
does
happen.
K
At
all,
they
know
they're
going
to
retire
and
they
start
using
them
and
they
get
down
there.
They
may
have
250
and
they
get
down
to
150..
This
gives
that
incentive
not
to
do
that
when
people
do
that,
you
either
pay
overtime
for
these
people
or
you're,
paying
them
out
cash
instead
of
in
this
way,
we're
paying
it
through
the
retirement
system.
B
A
K
275.
this
is
the
last
set
of
costs
associated
with
The
Joint,
sewage
stream
implant
project
running
out
of
City
Hall
we're
moving
eleven
thousand
dollars,
11
374
dollars
into
the
project.
Analyst
line
and
professional
service
line
of
1709
I'm,
decreasing
the
fund
balance
by
13083.
To
do
that,
half
of
this
money
will
come
back
to
the
Ern
process
of
the
city's
true
cost.
So
this
is
about
half
at
13.
000.
I
think
we
get
reimbursed
51
from
other
municipalities.
A
Okay,
I
added
an
item
here:
I
I
was
on
YouTube
the
other
night.
It
actually
is
pretty
easy
to
follow
me.
It
was
hard
to
see
the
screen,
but
I
didn't
feel
great.
The
other
night,
but
I
was
listening.
So
the
appreciate
everybody-
that's
here
in
councilman
scrungy
for
chairman
scrunchie
I,
should
say
for
leading
the
initial
discussion
and
having
the
showing
the
mapping
and
everything
else.
So
I
wanted
to
add.
I
know
it
was
mentioned
to
add.
I
want
to
add
a
brief
discussion.
A
I
want
to
let
councilman
scranty
just
lead
that
discussion
and
to
make
sure
there's
any
questions
of
the
process
that
we're
going
through
the
time
frames
and
the
next
steps.
Councilman
cringey.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
President
again,
thank
you
to
all
my
colleagues
for
joining
us
just
kind
of
re-summarize
here
so.
F
The
redistricting
process
will
be
held
in
the
Municipal
and
public
affairs
committee
and
we'll
move
through
the
process
to
expedite
it
to
the
full
body.
F
A
Corporation
Council
was
kind
enough
to
provide
us
a
general
guideline
with
some
important
things
to
remember,
as
it
relates
to
the
home
rule
law
in
New,
York
state
legislation,
as
well
as
what
the
time
delineations
are
that
we
have
to
deal
with
with
respect
to
ensuring
that
we
get
this
done
in
a
timely
manner.
F
So
we
spent
the
first
meeting
kind
of
going
through
the
international
Census
Data
difference
from
2010
through
now
and
2020.
Corp
Council
spoke
for
a
little
bit
and
we
set
draft
dates.
The
mpa
committee
motioned
and
unanimously
voted
to
establish
this
timeline
with
respect
to
a
final
draft
of
legislation
coming
through
voting
on
it
at
the
December
21st
meeting.
F
The
public
hearing
will
be
held
on
December
7th.
However,
we
will
continually
allow,
as
we
should
to
maximize
it
public
input
all
the
way
up
until
the
Friday
before
the
evening
of
December
21st,
and
all
of
that
information
is
available
again
on
the
city
website
or
anyone
to
be
able
to
not
just
sit
through
but
use.
F
It's
also
important
to
remember
that
the
city
clerk's
office,
both
the
city
of
Binghamton
Clerk
and
the
City
of
Binghamton
Deputy
clerk
on
a
substantive
level,
will
have
nothing
to
do
with
any
drafts
any
proposed
Maps.
All
they
will
do
is
they
will
aggregate
any
public
input
that
we
receive
and
obviously
provide
it
to
the
entire
body.
F
So
that
being
said,
that's
where
we're
at
the
mpa
committee
made
a
motion
to
move
those
things
forward
to
the
entire
body
and
that
was
accepted
unanimously.
If
anybody
has
any
questions,
please
feel
free
to
ask,
and
let
me
know
if
not
that's
all
I
have
Mr
President.
Thank.
A
You
chairman,
Jones,
is
going
to
ask:
how
do
we
take?
How
do
we
I,
don't
say,
Whittle
down
for
lack
of
a
better
better
term,
but
we
have
different
people
that
are
doing?
How
do
we
is
that
going
to
go
through
the
committee
to
are
we
going
to
narrow
it
down
at
some
point
to
one
or
two
or
three,
or
how
do
you
see
that
part
of
is
the
mayor's
office
going
to
present
I
know
you
talk
about
the
clerks
not
doing
it?
Is
the
mayor's
office
going
to
do
one?
F
A
part
of
the
process:
no,
no.
Procedurally,
it's
a
very
fair
question.
So,
for
all
intents
and
purposes
as
it
relates
to
any
potential
draft
map
right,
whatever
that
might
look
like,
we
could
have
one
draft
technically
we
could
have
seven
million
and
three
right.
Anybody
can
submit
whether
they're
an
elected
official,
whether
they
are
a
city
resident
whether
they
live
in
the
town
of
green.
It
really
doesn't
matter
as
a
standing
committee
in
the
city
Charter
the
purpose
of
any
standing
committee
when
they
make
a
motion
and
pass
something.
F
Is
that
that
motion,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
is
the
proposal
to
the
entire
body?
So
the
standing
committee
members
are
councilwoman,
resinetti,
councilman,
Riley
and
myself.
F
It
would
seem
to
me
that,
as
the
mpa
committee
whittles
things
down,
which
again
just
objectively
speaking,
there's
not
a
lot
of
time
for
this,
but
again
making
sure
that
we're,
obviously
taking
into
account
anything
that
the
public
may
offer.
It
would
seem
to
me
that
the
body
would
the
MBA
committee
rather
forgive
me,
could
either
a
they
could
vote
on
a
singular
draft
and
then
say
to
the
committee
of
the
whole.
F
The
body
that
this
is
the
map
that
the
mpa
committee
by
majority
or
unanimously
endorses,
or
the
mpa
committee
could
offer
say
two
or
three
out
of.
However
many
we
receive
and
then
the
broader
body
could
look
at
that.
I
guess!
If,
if
you
want
to
get
technical,
if
standing
since
standing
committees
make
recommendations
to
the
whole
body,
it
would
probably
be
more
consistent
for
mpa
to
at
a
bare
minimum.
In
majority
sense
endorse
a
singular
draft,
and
then
the
body
could
vote
that
up
or
down.
D
F
F
It
probably
is
better
that
the
mpa
committee
endorses
two
or
three
drops
so
that
way
that
way
the
body
can
vote
to
endorse
one
or
select
one,
because,
obviously,
technically
speaking,
just
procedurally
that's
what
would
have
to
happen
in
the
end
which
I
personally
have
no
problem
with.
If
that
is
what
the
majority
of
the
mpa
committee
would
decide
to
want
to
do,
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
D
D
Thank
you
I
understand
that
you're
submitting
submission
from
everybody
I
get
that,
but
they
really
can
only
make
it
to
those
final,
two
or
three
if
they
meet
requirements
with
law
right.
So
people
who
are
submitting
it
need
to
understand
that
they
need
to
be
familiar
with
the
missile
home
rule
on
if
they
don't
that.
The
first
one
is
that
2.5
deviation
right.
F
F
That
yeah,
so
I
I'm
I'm,
just
I'm
I'm
gonna,
put
this
out
there
now
on
the
public
record
as
it
relates
to
this
entire
redistricting
process
at
the
expense
of
being
blunt
at
its
most
simplest
level.
F
I
am
making
an
executive
decision
that
if
we,
if
the
mpa
committee
receives
a
draft
map
that
does
not
have
the
numerical
boundary
and
book
data
that
shows
that
all
seven
proposed
districts
on
the
draft
are
not
within
the
five
percent
deviation
of
the
mean
the
mpa
committee
will
not
accept
it
for
review.
I
am
making
that
executive
and
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that,
because
by.
F
F
F
It
yes,
there
yeah!
So
hypothetically
there
are
two
things
that
they
could
do.
They
could
either
number
one
when
they
submit
when
they
submit
their
proposal
or
their
draft
to
registering
redistricting
at
cityofbinghamton.gov.
They
can
either
a
place
the
dot
Maps
file
in
there,
which
then
we
can
upload
and
review
or
be
I
guess
technically
what
they
could
do
is
they
could
export
the
map
as
a
PDF
and
Export
the
book
values
as
a
PDF,
but
we're
still
going
to
need
to
get
the
dot
Maps
file
anyway
in
there
for
final
consideration.
F
D
In
the
end,
Mr
chairman,
also
just
for
the
members
of
the
public
who
may
be
considering
submitting,
it
I
believe
that
the
your
presentation
about
how
you
go
about
doing
that
is
has
been
loaded
to
YouTube.
Is
that
correct?
So
it
can
be.
People
can
go
back
and
review
it
if
they
want
to
review
the
process
support
because
you
walk
them
through
that.
G
You
again,
council
president,
so
the
mpa
meeting
was
very
Lively.
A
lot
of
information
shared
the
question
that
has
come
since
that
meeting
is
that
if
a
map
is
submitted
and
it'd
meet
all
guidelines,
will
we
before
we
vote
or
even
if
we
decide
that
it's
not
one
of
the
Final
maps
moving
forward
from
MPA?
Will
these
all
be
available
in
a
public-facing
manner
so
that
the
public
can
see
what
was
submitted.
F
Mr
President
good,
so
just
to
make
sure
I
understand.
The
question
correctly
is
operating
on
the
assumption
that
any
proposal
draft
that's
submitted,
meets
all
legal
criteria.
Will
that
draft
be
available
for
public
consumption?
Is
that
what
you're
asking
councilwoman?
So
in
principle?
Absolutely:
yes,
because
number
one
by
being
emailed
to
a
cityofbinghamton.gov
email
address,
it's
so
that's
number
one
number
two
I
have
no
problem.
F
As
chair
of
the
committee
entertaining
maybe
say:
once
all
drafts
are
reviewed,
taking
the
ones
that
do
meet
all
of
the
criteria
may
be
binding
them
into
a
singular
PDF
and
just
putting
that
out
there
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that
sure
I'd.
F
G
F
F
The
receivable
of
public
input
the
less
time
there
is
to
aggregate
all
of
that
information.
So
that
being
said
again
in
principle
and
I'll
put
it
on
the
record
now.
I
have
no
problem
supporting
that
as
it
relates
to
that
aggregate
available
list
and
the
amount
of
time
between
the
deadline
for
public
consumption
and
December
21st.
When
we
have
to
make
a
decision,
that's
literally
going
to
be
less
than
a
week.
F
So
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
prior
to
the
final
vote,
I'm,
not
it
there's
not
going
to
be
a
lot
of
time
for
it
to
be
publicly
available,
but
it
still
could
be
there
afterward.
F
But
the
problem
is
I'm.
Not
an
attorney
and
I
cannot
on
a
rolling
basis,
say
this
map
that
we
got
on
November
21st
works
and
this
one
on
November
22nd
does
not
because
I'm,
not
an
attorney
I,
don't
speak
on
the
behalf
of
New
York
State
redistricting
law.
To
do
that.
So
we
can
do
that,
but
again
out
of
fairness
and
equity
for
everyone
in
the
public.
We
would
have
to
do
that
at
the
end.
I
guess
we
could
do
it
rolling,
but
then
the
question
becomes
who
codifies
prior
to
that
deadline?
F
D
Spot
I
don't
disagree
with
what
you're
saying,
but
the
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
under
the
municipal
home
rule
law,
because
it's
a
local
law,
the
local
law
must
be
in
its
final
format.
Seven
days
before
it
goes
to
public
hearing,
which
means
that
the
Public's
input
has
to
be
received
before
that
public
hearing
correct
or
at
least
before
that
deadline,
because
if
you're
going
to
vote
on
it,
it
has
to
be
in
its
final
format,
seven
days
before
right.
So
that
puts
us
that
puts
us
I
mean
you.
F
D
G
J
We'll
be
president
strong,
so
I
realize
that
I
have
a
procedural
question
now,
because
we're
presumably
going
to
receive
more
maps
than
we
will
ultimately
be
voting
on.
So
there's
in
my
mind,
there's
there's
two
phases
right:
there's
the
map
receival
phase,
which
is
one
form
of
public
input
where
members
of
the
public
can
submit
Maps,
hopefully,
maps
that
will
be
acceptable
because
they
abide
by
all
of
the
laws,
but
then
the
the
second
part
is
once
we
finalize
X
number
of
maps
that
have
kind
of
made
it
to
the
second
round.
J
Then
there's
another
opportunity
for
public
input
where
the
public
can
give
their
opinions
on
the
maps
that
we
have
instead
of
submitting
new
maps.
But
my
procedural
question
then,
is
when
we
do
ultimately
vote
on
it.
How
do
we
is
it
like
we,
we
vote,
yay
or
nay,
on
each
map.
Let's
say:
there's
three
Final
maps
or
something
we
vote,
yay
or
nay,
or
is
it
that
we
pick
like
we
choose
a
map?
Do
you
know
what
I
mean.
F
J
F
F
So
if
there
are
hypothetically
seven
final
drafts,
there
would
need
motion
and
Ascent
with
a
formalized
through
city
clerk's
office,
corresponding
number
for
each
of
those,
and
they
would
also
be
on
the
non-preferred
agenda
or
on
the
preferred
agenda
and
yanked
by
our
chamber
rules
to
the
non-preferred
agenda,
and
then
we
would
lit,
like
you're
hypothetically
saying,
give
each
one
an
up
or
down
vote
right.
It's
technically!
No!
But
yes,
it's
possible.
Okay!.
J
Right,
okay,
so
that
that
makes
sense,
but
I
think
also
just
going
back
I.
This
is
kind
of
one
of
the
first
things
that
I
said
that
the
Dead
the
hour
last
seven
day
deadline
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
the
deadline
like,
of
course,
we
can't
receive
Maps
then,
but
we
could
still
receive
public
input
in
terms
of
like
public
comment
or.
F
Not
and
the
the
so
when
I
woman
Riley,
we
make
the
motion
and
a
second
at
the
meeting
using
that
public
was
literally
because
again
December
21st,
when
we
have
to
vote
on
it.
That
actually
is
a
business
meeting.
So
if
anyone
from
the
public
wants
to
provide
input
post
the
deadline,
they
still
have
another
opportunity
to
do
so
again
under
the
guice
of
what
I
said
maximizing
that
public
input.
So
yes
and
we'd
encourage
it.
So
that's.
J
Right
so
I
guess
I
have
one
last
question
that
just
came
to
me
is
I,
wonder
if
it's
allowable
and
possible
to
have
some
kind
of
straw
poll
among
the
public
of
the
the
Final
maps,
something
like
not
not
an
official
vote.
Obviously,
but
something
like
you
know,
a
a
place
to
receive
feedback.
That's
maybe
not
oh
write
a
whole
comment
to
your
representative
or
to
the
clerk
or
to
this
the
redistricting
email
address,
but
maybe
just
like,
like
a
form
or
something
online.
Just
so
we
can
see
an
unofficial.
F
So
woman.
F
So,
thank
you
so
councilwoman
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from
here
here
when
I
say
not
a
good
idea.
What
I
I
don't
mean
that,
on
a
substantive
level,
I
mean
that
on
a
procedural
level
right
so
at
the
expense
of
being
blunt,
we're
not
talking
about
passing
an
RL
that
deals
with
a
local
ordinance
to
decide
how
long
dog
leashes
should
be
in
the
city
of
Binghamton
right
we're
talking
about
something
that
occurs
in
every
municipality
in
the
entire
United
States.
F
That's
enshrined
in
New
York
state
law
enshrined
in
the
New
York
state
constitution
and
is
codified
in
the
United
States
Constitution
right
in
article
one.
So
that
being
said
procedurally
to
ensure
that
this
body
is
doing
what
it's
supposed
to
legally
do,
I
would
say,
following
the
standardized
process,
would
be
the
way
to
go.
That
being
said,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
to
elicit
feedback
from
the
public
in
any
way.
I
know,
I
have
been,
and
I
will
continue
to.
F
F
You
know
if
someone
can
put
out
a
zoom
poll,
or
you
know
Survey
Monkey
or
something
like
that.
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
and
I'm
all
for
it,
but
that
can't
be
formally
endorsed
for
the
purposes
of
this
process,
because
that
is
not
formalized
or
codified
in
the
process.
F
J
Sometimes
it
can
be,
it
can
be
overwhelming
or
a
deterrent
if
someone
has
to
then
compose
a
whole
email
totally
to
the
represent
instead
of
just
oh,
let
me
click
this
link
and
click
on
the
map
that
I
absolutely.
H
F
H
B
Thank
you
regarding
the
28.,
so
tonight's
meeting
I
knew
what
was
going
to
happen
at
tonight's
meeting
and
I
knew
it
last
Friday
right
right.
So
could
we
say
I
know
the
we
can't
have
the
you
know.
The
public
doesn't
do
what
they
want.
B
You
know
you.
Do
you
realize
that
this
map
is
cutting
out
blah
blah
blah?
You
know
we
have.
You
know
we
have
a
democratic
caucus.
We
have
a
republican
caucus,
the
Republicans
are
in
the
majority
of
course,
and
we
have
a
Republican
mayor,
so
we
all
want
to
avoid
any
gerrymandering,
and
we
all
want
to
avoid
anything
like
that.
B
So
I'm
wondering
if,
if
we
could
just
ask
everybody
to
give
those
Maps
by
that
fright,
you
know
just
even
the
Merit.
You
know
ask
everybody
to
get
their
RLS
in
in
time
for
for
Friday
and
we
get
these
maps
in
by
Thursday
or
Friday
so
that
we
can
all
look
at
them
over
the
weekend
and
then
on
that
Monday.
F
I
appreciate
that,
thank
you,
councilman
Byrne,
so
here's
what
I
will
do
number
one.
All
of
you
know
me
when
I
chair
a
committee
I
always
encourage
and
always
have
anyone
in
the
body
who's,
not
a
member
of
that
committee
to
be
there
so
number
two
as
chair
of
MPA
I'm,
going
to
make
an
executive
position
decision
for
full
transparency.
F
Lee
I
will
give
you
a
call
tomorrow
and
as
the
Arbiter
of
all
emails
that
come
in
for
purposes
of
redistricting
I
would
like
any
map
that
is
received
by
the
public
within
24
hours
of
being
submitted
to
redistricting
at
city
of
binghamton.gov,
to
be
forwarded
to
the
city
council
member
list.
So
everyone
gets
it
right
away
and
there's
no
issue
I'll
meet
with
you
tomorrow
and
we'll
work
out
the
logistics
for
that
business
days.
Yes,
24
business
hours,
I.
A
F
Well,
I,
yes,
I
I
agree
with
you,
but
again
right
for
purposes
of
transparency.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
if
the
map
meets
criteria
or
not,
it's
still
a
matter
of
public
record
right
right.
So
if
any
of
my
colleagues
want
to
analyze
a
map
that
clearly
doesn't
meet
all
of
the
criteria,
because
all
of
the
variances
are
above
10,
my
personal
suggestion
would
be
don't
waste
your
time,
but
this
is
America.
If
you
want
to
do
it,
go
nuts,
that's
on
you
right!
F
F
I,
don't
even
know
if
I'm
doing
any
Maps
but
I
don't
know
if
you're
asking
me
as
a
generality
or
me
specifically
General
I
objectively,
that
is
the
purview
of
the
person
who
creates
the
map.
They
could
submit
it
to
the
email
inbox.
They
could
email
it
to
everyone,
they
could
drop
bomb
it
on
the
last
day
that
is
entirely
their
purview
again.
This
is
America.
That's
their
choice.
A
But
I
I
agree
with
that.
The
problem
is,
is
we
can
have
fun
playing
Magic
we're
not
playing
risk.
We
want
to
if
you,
if,
if
you
don't
have
the
software
or
you're,
not
loading
it
and
you
don't
know,
then
we're
just
kind
of
playing
games
with
the.
If
we
don't
know
how
do
we
know
if
it's
even
worth
I
get
it,
we
can
all
we
can
do
whatever
we
want.
It's
America
all
that
stuff.
But
how
do
we
know
if.
F
To
know
other
than,
if
you
export
the
dot
Maps
file,
the
book
that
shows
the
variances
per
District
are
in
the
file.
Okay,
again.
Theoretically,
if
you
don't
know
how
to
deal
with
the
file
stuff,
you
could,
hypothetically
with
the
tool,
create
a
map.
Take
a
big
screenshot
of
it,
save
it
as
a
PDF.
Take
the
book
value
area
screenshot,
it
save
it
as
a
PDF
and
then
submit
that,
and
you
absolutely
can
do
that
I
would
say.
I
I
would,
as
as
I
said
earlier.
F
If
we,
if
MPA
receives
a
map,
is
it
a
matter
of
public
record?
Absolutely,
yes,
will
it
be
dealt
with
any
differently
in
terms
of
being
public
record?
Absolutely
not,
however,
that
being
said
for
purposes
of
ensuring
that
the
mpa
is
considering
any
draft
that
meets
all
New,
York
State
home
rule
guidelines,
the
committee
cannot
cannot
review
a
draft
in
which
we
cannot
know
with
100
certainty
that
all
seven
districts
population
wise
all
within
five
percent,
variates
of
the
mean,
which
is
six
thousand
eight
hundred
ninety
three.
D
Will
definitely
look
into
it,
but
I'm
going
to
rely
heavily
on
councilman
scrunchie,
because
he
has
the
most
expertise
with
doing
running
the
program.
I
will
sit
with
him
and
make
him
go
through.
It
show
me
how
it
does
it,
because
I
need
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
what
I'm
recommending
or
what
we're
drafting
meets
the
requirements.
But
it's
not
the
type
of
thing
we
want
to
have
one
person
doing
I
think
we
need
to
have
multiple
people
doing
it.
H
D
F
F
F
F
B
B
And
you're
not
going
to
give
it
to
us
until
you
the
day
that
that
is
going
to
meet.
But
what?
If
what?
If
we
had
you
know,
I
mean
can't,
wouldn't
it
be
more
transparent?
Just
as
the
mayor
wouldn't
put
an
RL
in
here,
I
mean
an
emergency
situation
yeah,
but
you
know
he's
asked
everybody
to
get
the
RLS
in
on
time
and
everything
so
there's
transparency.
Everybody
has
a
chance
to
look
at
everything
sure.
B
So
if,
if
we
come
up
with
a
map,
we
share
with
you,
if
you
guys
came
up
with
the
map
share
it
with
us
and
then
we
could
I
mean
I
know
you
talk
about
that
at
the
committee
yeah.
Oh
there's,
only
three
people
on
the
committee
so
I
just
think
it
would
be
better.
So
it
you
know
to
put
all
the
cards
on
the
table
before
that
28th
on
the
you
know,
the
Friday
or
the
Thursday
before
that,
so
we'd
at
least
be
able
to
see
it
and
talk
about
it.
Councilman.
F
I
I
understand
I,
understand
where
you're
coming
from
so
I
can
only
speak
for
myself
right
so
to
meet
the
concern
that
you
brought
up
earlier
about
non-committee
members
as
well
as
committee
members.
Getting
those
Maps
I
made
that
executive
decision,
because
I
think
that's
an
excellent
point.
You
made
okay,
I
can
only
speak
for
myself,
so
I
will
speak
for
myself.
Now
have
I
played
with
the
tool.
Yes,
absolutely
I'm,
on
YouTube
playing
it
I
Illustrated
how
to
use
it.
I
have
not
made
one
city-wide
map,
yet.
F
Okay,
I
have
not
talked
to
any
colleagues.
I
genuinely
do
not
care
what
letter
anyone
at
this
table
has,
after
their
last
name,
I.
Don't
care
about
party
I,
don't
care
about
caucus,
I,
don't
care
about
majority
I!
Don't
care
about
minority
I
care
about
one
thing:
numbers:
okay,
considering
the
fact
that
we
unanimously
agreed
that
public
input
maximized
is
the
best
thing.
I
will
be
up
in
front
and
honest
with
you
about
how
I
singularly
would
operate
if
I
singularly
want
to
submit
a
draft.
F
I
would
actually
want
to
wait
until
the
end
and
here's
the
reason
why?
Because
I
want
to
be
educated
and
informed
by
potential
drafts
that
are
coming
in
from
the
public
over
time,
more
specifically
from
the
roughly
7
000
people
that
are
my
boss,
the
residents
of
the
first
district,
because
that
might
educate
me
about
something
that
might
make
me
think
of
something
that
I
did
not
think
of
so
I
will
be
very
upfront
and
transparent
with
you.
F
A
Okay,
well,
let's,
let's
just
continue
communicating
via
email.
You
can
work
with.
F
G
If
the
community
and
or
council
members
decide
to
send
something
to
the
email
box
in
order
to
have
the
best
I
want
to
say
well
in
order
to
have
the
most
information
and
and
be
as
transparent
as
possible,
the
the
preferred
process
is
to
download
and
share,
as
you
described
in
the
video
saving
the
file
downloading
the
file
and
sending
it.
So
we
can
upload
it
into
the
gis.
However,
if
they
are
using
tools
that
they
prefer,
like
there's
several
other
tools
that
were
used
throughout
the
state,
as
well
as
the
broom
redistricting
process.
G
F
Respectfully
councilwoman
I'm
actually
going
to
say
no
on
that
and
here's
the
reason
why
in
principle,
are
there
other
non-profit,
based
as
well
as
private
sector-based
software
solutions
that
can
be
used
for
redistricting
purposes
that
are
not
Broome,
County
GIS
portal?
Absolutely,
yes,
and
absolutely
any
member
of
the
public
could
use
such
tool
and
submit
it
and
I
completely
support
that
here
is
the
issue
from
a
procedural
perspective
that
comes
into
play.
F
F
J
A
J
F
Them
official
absolutely
I
mean
I
I,
don't
deny
for
five
seconds
coming
off
of
what
councilwoman
Riley's
taught
I
mean.
There
are
very,
very,
very
and
I
say
this
as
an
economist.
There
are
very
robust
tools
that
are
private
sector
based,
but
again
for
our
purposes
to
ensure
that
we're
following
the
proper
process,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
using
the
tool
from
the
County
government.
That
is
the
only
endorsed
tool.
That
is.
This
is
properly
where
the
data
is
being
vetted.
H
C
Yes,
we
have
two
Union
contracts,
we
have
eight
RLS
going
to
Wednesday
and
does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
any
of
those.