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A
All
right
welcome
everyone
to
the
day
one
meeting,
one
of
the
city
of
binghamton
city
council
budget,
hearing
wednesday
september
29
2021.
lee.
Can
you
take
roll
call?
Please.
A
You
in
a
second
I'm
going
to
ask
our
corporate
council
to
give
us
a
very
brief
overview.
A
couple
weeks
ago,
maggie
sent
us
a
budget
process
packet
very
well
done,
so
I
hope
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
read
that
enough
update
on
that.
This
is
our
second
time
through,
so
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
to
get
through
this,
but
just
an
overall
reminder
that
between
now
and
october,
the
end
of
october,
we
have
an
opportunity,
as
a
group
to
to
review
speak
into
potentially
amend
this
budget.
A
In
the
absence
of
that,
this
budget
would
default
to
the
mayor's
proposal.
So
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
but
I
think
we
spread
it
out
over
three
weeks
five
sessions.
It
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
for
the
public
hearing
in
the
final
vote
in
case
we
need
a
little
bit
of
extra
time,
so
I
think
that
we
spread
it
out
enough
to
not
overwhelm
anybody,
and-
and
would
you
give
us
just
a
real
quick
couple
reminders
and
then
overview.
E
Okay,
last
year,
I
was
much
more
concerned
with
letting
everybody
know,
because
we
had
so
many
new
members
of
council.
You
all
have
been
through
this
before
so
I
know
it's
all.
Pat,
what's
going
to
happen
is
that
the
chair
is
going
to
open
pages
and
basically
large
groups
of
pages.
Typically,
you
know
sometimes
it'll
be
one.
Maybe
two
different
groups:
you'll
have
one
department
head
down
here:
some
other
representatives
and
essentially
they'll
go
through
kind
of
what's
new
in
the
budget.
E
E
If
you
make
an
amendment
be
very
concise
about
what
you're
asking
to
remove,
if
you're
moving
any
money,
it
goes
from
the
line,
you're
moving
it
from
into
contingency
and
then
you
can
move
it
out
of
contingency
to
another
line,
but
there's
no
direct
line
to
line
motions
right,
I
think
other
than
that
everybody
kind
of
went
through
this
last
year.
It
went
very
well
and
let's
get
started.
A
Okay,
thank
you
before
we
start.
I
just
want
to
take
one
minute
to
thank
the
city,
the
mayor's
office,
chuck
laurie,
maggie
ken
and
the
clerk's
office
for
all
the
hard
work
that
has
got
us
to
this
point.
They
did
a
great
job
and
I
think,
we're
ready
to
roll.
We
have
222
pages
more
or
less
to
go
through
expense
side:
99
million
131
0,
77
38,
balanced
by
revenues
of
61
million
292
37.82
fund,
balance
of
3
million
543
206.83
reserves
of
221
695.50
and
a
tax
levy
of
34
million
zero.
A
Seventy
three
seven,
ninety
seven,
twenty
three
with
that,
let's
get
right
into
it!
Mr
paddock
is
here
from
dpw,
so
I
want
to
officially
open
the
general
fund
portion
of
dpw
pages
33
to
40
69
to
72
and
212,
and
just
a
reminder.
Page
212
is
the
capital
page.
So
multiple
departments
have
a
couple
lines
on
212.
So
you'll
hear
212
a
couple
times
tonight,
so
they'll
just
do
their
part
of
212..
A
No,
they
he
sent
out
version
eight
about
45
minutes.
After
that.
I
think
it's
flipped
it
just
flipped
councilman
right,
woman
riley.
Thank
you.
Dpw
is
first
and
then
mr
schleider
will
be
second
and
then
jeff
krueger
will
be
third.
So
I
think
that's
the
only
change
it's
just
a
flip-flop
between
dpw
and
code
for
tonight.
A
Yes,
it
was
several
hours
ago.
I
looked
at
it
before
I,
I
left
work,
so
it's
just
a
flip.
So
just
go
to
your
dpw.
If
you,
if
you
have
the
other
one,
just
go
to
your
dpw,
which
is
that
was
the
second
part
code
was
first
the
dpw
second,
on
the
one
version,
seven
version,
eight
is
just
a
flip
of
those
two,
so
mr
paddock
has
has
33
through
40
69
to
72
and
212
on
the
general
fund
portion
of
his.
B
A
G
Okay,
I
I
didn't
receive
that,
so
I
guess
for
today,
that's
okay
are
all
the
other
days.
The
same.
A
D
I
H
F
I
can
yes:
okay,
I'm
gonna
start
on
page
33.
The
public
works
administration
portion
of
the
budget,
personal
services,
not
much
has
changed
there.
The
the
increase
in
expenses
are
due
to
contractual
expenses.
Chuck
shaker
did
want
to
touch
on
a
new
position
called
fleet
manager
which
I'll
let
him
just
discuss
that
for
a
minute.
J
Put
a
fleet
manager
in
the
budget
we're
going
to
change
things
around
for
next
year,
but
the
mayor
elected
not
to
make
that
change
this
year
and
leave
that
for
the
next
administration.
If
that's
what
they
want
to
do,
they
could
utilize
a
fleet
manager
position
and
move
money
around
next
year.
If
that's
how
they
feel
fit,
you
can
go
down.
F
F
We
have
engineering,
we
have
planning,
we
have
code,
we
have
the
mayor's
office,
there's
roughly
about
400
city-type
vehicles
in
our
fleet.
So
that's
the
reason
this
position
is
being
introduced
and,
as
chuck's
stated,
will
be
later
discussed,
moving
forward
here.
F
No
real
changes
left
here
on
the
first
page,
so
I
guess
I
would
move
from
page
33
into
34
through
35,
where
we
go
into
city
hall,
operations
of
plant,
very
minimal
increase
there
in
personal
services
and
again
that's
that's
attributed
to
contractual
expenses.
F
No
other
major
really
increases
of
any
sorts
here,
pretty
much
the
gas
electric
all
stayed
the
same
and
again
we
had
a
little
bit
of
savings
due
to
covet
19,
because
the
building
was
not
in
full
occupancy.
F
If
you
move
to
you
continue
there
on
the
second
page,
which
would
be
36
through
38..
F
Actually,
the
only
major
changes
would
be
in
line
a
1620
546
10,
where
we
moved
the
court
improvements
out
there
and
created
a
separate
line
and
the
reason
we
did
that
is
because
the
city's
reimbursed
for
those
expenses
on
any
court
work.
That's
done!
So
it's
it's
really
more
clear
and
precise.
On
on
that.
F
I
guess
if
we
just
keep
moving
forward,
we'll
go
to
the
central
garage
again
personal
services,
any
increases
there
are
totally
due
to
contracted
expenses.
There
obviously.
F
Nothing,
nothing
else
that
I
really
can
see
that
a
little
bit
reduction
in
fuel,
because
we
did
put
a
transfer
station
in
place
last
year
at
the
dpw
which
helped
not
sending
seven
garbage
trucks
there
on
a
daily
basis.
F
Also
moving
forward,
there's
there's
just
no
major
changes
of
of
any
significance
here
that
I
feel
that
really
need
to
be
discussed.
There's
been
some,
you
know
reductions,
but
there's
been
really
no
increases
to
the
budget.
D
F
D
F
Really
the
increases
that
they're
actually
are
basically.
D
D
F
Most
of
that,
those
are
are
due
to
some
older
equipment.
The
mayor
was
fortunate
to
get
some
new
equipment,
but
a
lot
of
it.
We
know
we,
as
I've
mentioned
to
you
at
several
meetings.
We
take
a
proactive
approach
which
we
started,
may
15th
and
we're
going
through
every
piece
of
snow
removal
equipment
so
that
when
we
start
here
the
first
of
november,
we
will
be
fully
operational
and
ready
to
roll.
K
F
K
Judge:
hey
it's
geo.
How
are
you
hey
geo?
How
are
you
good?
How
are
you,
sir?
Thank
you.
Just
a
quick
question.
Forgive
me
on
page
36
on
the
equipment
line.
I
know
the
proposed
is
the
same
as
what
was
adopted
last
year,
but
I'm
noticing
that
we're
like
three
quarters
of
the
way
through
the
year
and
only
about
a
little
over
40
45
percent
of
that
has
been
expended
or
encumbered.
Is
there
a
major
equipment
expenditure
that
might
be
coming
down?
The
pike?
F
Well,
unfortunately,
we've
been
able
to
to
save
some
money
there
through
some
preventative
maintenance.
It's
usually
for
our
rotating
broom,
which
is
part
of
our
milling
and
paving
operation.
So
right.
B
I
E
I
B
K
G
Thank
you.
I
also
have
a
question
on
page
36.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
for
being
here
and
presenting
us
with
this
budget,
where
it
seems,
like
you've,
made
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
decreases
and
cuts.
So,
of
course,
that's
always
something
that's
nice
to
hear.
G
So
my
question
is
on
the
personal
services
line,
so
I
know
that
you
said
that
the
increases
are
due
to
contractual
obligations,
but
I'm
just
curious
because
it
seems
to
me
that
so
the
lines
all
or
I
should
say
all
of
the
columns
seem
to
be
very
different
numbers,
so
the
amount
that
was
expended
in
2020
the
adopted
budget
in
2021.
What
was
adjusted
et
cetera
et
cetera?
Can
you
just
speak
a
little
bit
to
why
those
numbers
seem
to
be
so
different
from
each
other.
J
Aviva
I'll
speak
for
that
last
year.
There
was
a
lot
of
money
that
was
put
in
contingency
because
we
didn't
know
where
the
money
or
what
we
were
going
to
do
it
when
we
were
doing
the
budget
last
september
and
the
reason
that's
the
reason
the
adopted
number
was
so
low.
You
see
the
adjusted
budget
jump
up
to
253.
That's
because
we
took
people
out
of
contingency
and
put
them
back
into
the
budget
and
hired
them.
F
F
As
you
see,
any
of
the
other
lines
really
are
pretty
much
how
we
operated
last
year,
so
we
have
not
had
any
increases
there.
We've
tried
to
maintain
the
budget.
F
Then,
if
you
go
to
page
40
again,
we've
had
some
reductions.
You
know
traffic
signs,
we've
tried
to
keep
it
our
inventory
built
up,
and
we
felt
that
we
could
drop
that
a
little
bit
this
year
and
basically,
as
far
as
electricity
electricity,
just
as
is
in
your
home,
continues
to
go
up
a
little
bit.
So
that
would
be
really
the
only
thing
relative
to
page
40.
That
shows
any
significant
increase
at
all.
J
Also,
if
I
can
interrupt
john
for
a
quick
second,
if
you
go
back
to
page
39
when
you
go
in
personal
services,
you'll
see
like
a
number
next
to
the
position,
so
the
top
position
of
street
maintenance
supervisor
comma
eight.
That
means
that
person
works
eight
hour
days.
If
people
are
seven
hour
days,
it
gets
listed
as
that,
if
someone's
in
a
pointed
position
you'll
see
later
on,
we
denote
that.
F
If
we
move
over
forward
to
page
69,
which
would
be
our
maintenance
of
roads,
obviously
these
are
contracted
services.
As
chuck
said,
some
of
the
changes
are
due
to
positions
that
were
not
filled,
but
one
thing
I
will
say
is
that
filling
some
of
these
positions
we've
had
great
difficulty
in
attracting
workforce.
There's
many
positions
that
I
have
in
the
dpw,
whether
it's
street
maintainers
maintenance
equipment
operators,
heavy
equipment
operators,
we're
not
attracting
these
workforces
in
a
lot
of
cases.
F
F
If
we
go
to
snow
removal,
which
is
page
71,
the
only
thing
I
could
say
is
of
it's
not
a
significant
change,
but
it
is
a
change
from
last
year's
budget.
Is
we
looked
at
going
to
rent
a
front-end
loader
from
the
period
november
15
through
april
15th,
and
the
reason
is,
is
rather
than
go
out
and
procure
a
new
loader.
F
I
felt
that
I've
done
this
in
the
past
that
you
that
this
it's
utilizing
to
give
you
a
brand
new
loader.
If
we
have
any
problems,
this
falls
back
on
the
manufacturing
or
local
entity
to
come
in
and
repair
it
versus
putting
unnecessary
pressure
on
our
mechanics,
we're
busy
at
this
time
of
the
year
and
obviously,
when
you
get
a
new
piece
of
equipment,
I
can
say
most
the
time
it's
going
to
operate
for
that
period
of
time
that
we
get.
F
So
it's
it's
really
a
better
value
than
putting
out
close
to
200
000
and
trying
to
buy
one
that
you
know
might
be
six
seven
years,
and
sometimes
it
really
it's
not
used
every
day
so
other
than
that.
That's
really
the
only
change
there
and
I
guess
that
that
first
portion
of
the
budget
is
is
is
complete.
On
my
end,.
F
I'm
sorry,
I
guess
street
light.
I
apologize
that's
on
72,
as
you
see,
there's
no
changes
there
as
well.
Actually
we
reduce
the
electricity
a
little
bit
on
that
so
again,
another
reduction.
A
A
E
F
Okay
regarding
the
capital
improvements
plan.
F
Those
are
for
controllers
and
any
light
replacements
that
may
be
necessary
is
part
of
the
signs
and
signals
department
and
the
other
one
is
city
hall,
improvements
for
150
000
and
basically,
what
that's
dealing
with
is
hvac
and
mechanical
upgrades
here
within
this
city
hall,
it's
for
pumps,
hot
and
cold
deck
coils,
and
also
for
uv
compressor
lighting.
F
We
also
need
to
upgrade
the
heating
and
air
conditionings
in
the
lower
levels,
as
well
as
the
police
desk
area,
because
we
don't
have
sufficient
air
flows
there
when
the
warmer
weather,
mostly,
I
mean
it's
most
of
the
time,
it's
okay
for
the
winter,
but
we've
found
that
there's
been
a
significant
quality
of
air
loss
there.
So
we're
going
to
go
and
take
care
of
that
and
also
the
first
floor.
F
Elevator
area,
it
really
hasn't
been
looked
at
in
50
years,
there's
ceiling
controls
that
need
to
be
looked
at
lighting
in
the
men's
and
ladies
rooms.
We
want
to
also
upgrade
so
that's
where
some
of
those
improvements
come
for
at
city
hall
and
those
and
that's
pretty
much
it
as
far
as
our
capital.
Improvements
planned
for
2022.
B
E
A
Thank
you.
Okay.
I'd
now
like
to
open
the
refuse
portion
of
the
dpw
budget
pages
111
through
127.,
111
and
112
are
summaries
and
we
have
some
revenue
components
in
here.
So
I
don't
know.
If
chuck
will
speak
to
those
and
then
the
operating
portion
starts
on
page
116.,
so
we
will
open
all
111
through
127
and
I'll.
Let
john
and
chuck
decide
which
order
if
they
want
to
do
the
expenses
first
or
okay.
So.
D
B
E
J
114
is
the
unallocated
insurance.
This
is
insurance
that
comes
from
the
m
fund
for
property
casualty
and
things
of
that
nature
so
it'll
be
that
number
actually
went
up
from
1145
last
year
to
2090
this
year,
mainly
due
to
the
fact
that
I
use
less
fund
balance
out
of
the
insurance
fund
than
I
did
last
year.
J
F
I
guess
moving
forward
down
here.
There's
nothing!
That's
really
changed
down
here
as
well.
I
don't
don't
see
anything
that
is
going
to
stick
out
and
surprise
anybody.
We've
tried
to
be
consistent
and
make
reductions
wherever
we
could.
F
The
one
thing
that
is
changed
a
little
bit
is
the
bag's
production
distribution.
The
price
of
bags
has
increased
and
that's
why
you're,
seeing
that
number
move
up
from
what
it
was
a
year
ago.
J
F
The
other
thing
is
tipping
fees
that
went
down
and
the
reason
you
saw
it
go
down
is
because
last
year
we
faced
kind
of
a
a
tough
situation
that
in
our
recycling
efforts
adam's
disposal
decided
to
no
longer
want
to
collect
recyclables
from
the
city
of
binghamton.
F
So
we
had
no
other
options
because
there
was
no
interest
out
there,
because
the
financial
monies
that
were
in
recycling
are
no
longer
there,
so
we
had
to
go
and
utilize
the
broome
county
landfill
for
close
to
three
or
four
months.
We
were
fortunate
through
you
know,
working
with
chuck
and
myself
we
were
able
to
meet
with
bob
taylor.
He
took
us
on
board
on
a
temporary
basis.
The
relationship
has
been
good.
F
I
think
it
still
needs
to
be
cultivated,
because
obviously
the
city
needs
bob
taylor
and
I
think
he's
been
pretty
fair
to
us.
So
that's
why
you
saw
that
increase,
because
the
broom
county
landfill
was
charging
us
a
significant
amounts
to
take
recycling
because,
obviously
they
under
normal
circumstances
didn't
and
they
were
having
to
go
and
tractor
trailer
that
off
the
sites
such
as
albany
and
some
other
surrounding
areas.
So
that's
the
really
one
area
there
that
I
that's.
Why
you'll
see
that
change
everything
else,
pretty
much
is
normal.
D
That
excuse
me,
mr
mr
paddock.
This
is
councilman
scandal.
I
got
a
question
on
the
tipping
fees.
Please
go
ahead,
though,
so
you
mentioned
bob
taylor
took
us
on
temporarily.
Is
that
a
day
by
day
basis
or
how's
that
agreement
work.
F
John,
no,
he
just
really
tom
what
he
wanted
to
see
is
you
know
they
want
to
look
at
tom,
the
quality
of
recycling
out
there,
it's
very
important
they're
particular
on
what
they
take.
So
he
when
we
first
started
with
him,
he
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
that
we
were
going
to
meet
our
commitments.
You
know
I
meet
with
him,
probably
every
three
weeks.
F
I
think
it's
important
and
he's
in
place
with
us
now
it
just
initially
when
we
there,
he
just
said
I
want
to
take
it,
make
sure
I
can
handle
you
know
what's
coming
into
the
facility,
what
the
quality
is
and
we've
demonstrated
that
we've
done
a
better
job
on
what
we're
selectively
delivering
there.
So
I
don't
see
any
problems
there
now
are.
E
J
F
It's
appalachian
tom
and
one
of
the
things
is.
We
are
trying
to
be
proactive,
trying
to
look
at
a
recycle
similar
to
how
we
do
the
refuge
recycling
at
dpw
we're
trying
to
set
up
an
operation
there
where
we're
eventually,
hopefully,
we
can
go
and
create
a
recycling
there
so
that
we
can
tractor
down
to
apple
aiken,
probably
twice
a
week,
opposed
to
going
down
there
four
times
a
week
with
seven
pac
masters.
D
J
J
J
I
have
not
gone
through
them,
they're,
fairly
close,
but
after
I
get
a
chance
to
go
through
them
all.
We
may
make
some
changes,
but
we'll
keep
this
one
we'll
make
the
changes
in
the
general
fund.
It's
not
going
to
be
significant
enough.
G
G
So
can
you
explain
the
the
difference
between
the
amount
of
money
that's
expended
thus
far
and
the
amount
that's
budgeted?
Is
that
because
you
haven't
it's.
J
G
J
J
Page
120
is
based
off
of
the
wages
in
ceo
8160
accounts
workers.
Compensation
is
based
off
of
the
wages.
Also,
we've
been
able
to
secure
a
pretty
hefty
savings
across
the
board
in
workers.
Comp
I've
put
that
to
ken's
department
as
well
as
uhs,
helping
us
when
people
get
injured,
getting
them
back
to
work
quickly,
unemployment,
we
did
not
budget
anything,
we
usually
don't
spend
anything
there
same
with
disability
insurance,
health
insurance.
J
A
Okay,
any
questions
on
the
benefits
portion
of
the
refuse
fund
119
to
126.,
okay
and
there's
no
no
budget
in
capital,
so
we
covered
127.
okay.
So,
let's
circle
back
to
the
that
one.
J
H
J
This
is
this
refused
fund
and
they're,
not
purchasing
anything
through
the
refuse
fund
out
of
the
capital
fund
next
year.
Okay,
thanks.
J
Going
back
to
page
113,
how
are
we
going
to
pay
for
the
expenses
there's
going
to
be
90
000?
We
anticipate
from
garbage
violation
charges.
This
is
when
people
do
not
pick
up
their
yards
and
we
have
to
send
our
people
out
there
to
pick
it
up
with
them
for
that
that
all
gets
done
through
the
dpw
department.
J
Refusing
garbage
charges
is
the
sale
of
the
bags.
We
anticipate
that
number
to
be
about
one
million
two
hundred
and
twenty
four
thousand
dollars,
and
the
last
line
is
45031
interfund
transfers
at
two
million
four
hundred
and
fifty
three
thousand,
that
is,
money,
that's
being
transferred
from
the
general
fund
to
the
refuse
fund.
People
always
think
that
the
blue
bags
pay
for
them
pay
for
the
garbage
collection.
That
is
not
the
case.
The
blue
bags
pay
pretty
much
for
the
tipping
fees.
J
We
have,
as
I
mentioned
before,
one
garbage
truck
that
we
purchased
on
a
ban
that
will
pay
78
800
in
principle,
1
380
in
interest
for
a
total
cost
of
80
0180.
J
And
if
you
go
to
page
111,
it's
basically
a
summary
of
everything
that
you
just
that
we
just
went
through,
except
for
a
couple
things
we
are
using.
312
039
in
appropriate
fund
balance
we're
using
the
fund
balance,
that's
in
the
refuse
fund
to
help
lower
the
cost,
basically
of
taxes
in
the
general
fund.
And
then
we
have
a
reserve
for
debt
which
we've
gained
interest
on
this
year.
So
282
dollars
and
20
cents
needs
to
also
be
utilized
here.
K
J
The
114
is
the
unallocated
insurance.
What
we
do
is
the
insurance
fund
has
to
be
funded
by
all
the
other
funds.
Okay,
this
is
the
share
outside
of
workers
comp,
but
for
the
property
casualty
liability
insurance
that
we
have.
This
covers
part
of
tens,
people
that
defend
the
city.
If
we
have
to
go
outside
legal
council
and
things
of
that
nature,
this
is
their
share
of
it.
B
A
A
There,
okay,
we'll
take
a
quick
break
after
this
we'll
like
we'll
get
through
a
code,
so
I
would
like
to
officially
open
pages
66
and
pages
93-94.
L
Great,
thank
you,
sharon.
We
have
just
a
couple
items
on
page
66,
there's
no
change
from
the
adopted
budget
of
2021
to
the
proposed
for
2022.
L
The
expended
amounts
for
these
are
a
little
bit
below
the
budgeted
amount,
we're
only
three-quarters
of
the
way
through
the
year,
and
we
did
have
a
little
hiccup
with
our
professional
services.
Those
are
exams
that
the
city
administers
so
that
plumbers
and
electricians
can
be
licensed
in
the
city
of
binghamton.
They
do
have
to
pass
a
pretty
rigid
exam
and
that's
administered
by
a
nationally
standardized
outfit
called
prometrics.
L
They
did
not
offer
the
exam
just
last
week,
september
third
week
of
september,
so
quite
a
bit
of
that
those
funds
from
that
line
had
not
been
used,
but
we
do
anticipate
that
returning
and
we'll
certainly
want
to
have
that
in
our
budget
for
2022.
L
We
generally
do
use
pretty
close
to
that
total
sum
amount
board.
Member
services
are,
are
the
members
of
the
boards
of
electrical
and
plumbing
examiners.
Those
are
the
gentlemen
that
review
the
applications
to
take
the
exams
so
that
different
plumbers
and
electricians
can
take
the
exams
and
be
licensed
prior
to
being
accepted.
They
have
to
show
that
they
have
experience
and
a
number
of
years
in
the
field,
not
just
the
knowledge
of
the
trade
but
hands-on
experience.
L
L
L
If
we
are
okay
with
that,
we
could
move
on
to
page
93
and
we
have,
at
the
top
of
the
page,
our
personnel
services,
that,
through
contract
negotiation,
shows
an
increase
from
2021
to
2022..
L
Those
are
the
amounts
agreed
upon
between
the
city
and
csea
to
include
the
funds
that
we
had
in
for
2021,
plus
the
the
increase
we
did
have
a
position
for
a
code
inspector
in
2020.
L
One
of
our
inspectors
was
promoted
from
his
position
as
a
code
inspector,
the
same
time
that
the
pandemic
took
hold
at
the
mayor's
request.
We
did
not
fill
that
position
and
we
left
it
vacant
in
2021
that
position
remained
vacant
and
for
2022
we're
asking
to
restore
that
position
for
a
salary
of
thirty
thousand
seven.
L
Ninety
six,
that's
pretty
close
to
the
starting
salary
for
that
position,
which
is
29
six,
and
I
think
that
it's
a
good
opportunity
for
for
the
department
to
to
become
fully
staffed
and
provide
the
services
that
we've
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
provide
not
only
due
to
this
one
position
being
vacant.
But
we
also
have
a
code
inspector
who's
out
on
leave
because
of
health
problems,
and
we
are
not
able
to
fill
that
position
for
one
year.
L
So
as
long
as
he's
out
we're
down
an
inspector
rather
than
having
five
guys
in
the
field,
or
rather
than
having
six,
I
have
five
and
having
another
inspector
added
to
the
staff
would
certainly
help
provide
coverage.
At
times
like
this.
L
L
The
one
item
that
really
did
not
get
used
in
2021
at
this
point
in
the
year
as
much
as
it
was
the
allowed
budget
allowed
for
was
the
travel
and
training
and
due
to
the
pandemic
and
the
restriction
on
in-person
training
services
rather
than
attending
classroom
sessions
with
50
or
100
inspectors.
Statewide,
the
department
of
state
codes
division
has
been
offering
these
classes
online.
L
My
inspectors
have
been
attending
online
training
sessions
which
were
free
to
the
municipalities,
and
that's
why
we
have
not
really
expended
as
much
of
the
travel
and
training
budget
as
we
had
been
allowed,
but
we're
already
seeing
some
live,
in-person
classes
coming
back
and
we're
seeing
a
decrease
in
the
number
of
online
classes
that
are
being
offered.
So
I'm
anticipating
the
2022
will
return
us
to
where
we
were
before
the
pandemic
and
prior
to
the
pandemic.
We
were
using.
You
know,
90
of
that,
if
not
100
of
that
budgeted
amount.
L
So
I'd
like
to
leave
the
travel
and
training
budget
for
2022
at
46.50
as
proposed,
I
don't
see
that
as
being
a
permanent
decrease
in
expenses
for
us.
G
Thank
you
hi,
chris.
How
are
you
great?
I
have
a
question
actually
on
the
previous
page
93.
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
was
a
reason
for
the
differentiation
in
salaries
for
the
existing
code
inspectors
and
then
the
vacant
code
inspector.
L
There
was
a
freeze
on
increases
for
2021,
so
they
were
at
33
362
for
two
years,
and
this
is
the
first
opportunity
for
them
to
to
receive
a
small
increase
in
salary
just
for
cost
of
living
increases,
and
so
they
will
be
at
34
305..
L
The
position
coming
in
that
the
one
that
we're
proposing
to
be
added
back
to
the
budget.
I
I
would
like
to
see
it
at
33,
362
or
34
305,
so
it's
in
line
with
everybody
else,
but
the
proposed
the
proposed
salary
is
thirty
thousand
seven.
Ninety
six
and
we
really
need
guys
so
I'm
gonna
take
whatever
I
can
get
and
offer
what's
available
and
hope
that
we
can
recruit
and
retain
at
that
salary.
G
Well,
it's
it
in
my
book,
I'm
reading
thirty
thousand
seven.
Ninety
six.
J
Okay,
the
the
real
salaries;
thirty,
three
thousand
three
sixty
two:
it
is
roughly
a
thousand
dollars
less,
but
we
posted
this
position
and
it
will
be
funded
at
the
end
of
january,
where
you
see
fund
131.
So
it
gives
the
next
administration
that
they
have
a
say
and
the
person
they
chose.
Okay
with
chris's
input.
J
G
L
Thank
you
chuck.
I
also
did
not
understand
that
and
myself,
so
I
I
I
was
looking
at
the
3796
as
the
annual
salary,
not
not
an
11
month
salary.
So
thank
you
for
clarification.
That's
that
certainly
changes
the
picture
for
me.
G
I
see
okay,
so
just
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
this
correctly,
the
30
30
796,
that's
for
11
months,
that's
february
through
december,
correct
for
okay,
although
so,
if
this
is
for
next
year,
though
it
wouldn't
that
imply,
then
that
the
earliest
we
could
hire
someone
would
be
february
or
what
I'm
like.
I
I'm
confused.
Why
we're
allocating
only
11
months,
salary
for
next
year's
budget,
so.
J
That
the
next
administration
can
go
out
and
place
the
advertisement
go
through
the
interview
process
and
decide
who
to
hire
this
mayor
did
not
think
it
was
right
for
him
to
start
advertising
for
it
and
have
a
person
hired
in
december
to
start
january.
2Nd
and
the
new
administration
should
not
agree
with
that
person.
So
this
just
takes
a
month
for
that
process
to
happen.
H
J
G
And
then
that
would
require
if
we
were
to
choose
to
do
that,
that
would
require
increasing
the
salary
to
the
the
full
33
362..
If.
G
Okay,
I
mean
I'm
wondering
if
I
guess,
if
my
colleagues
think
that
that
might
be
something
that
maybe
we
should
make
a
motion
to
to
amend
the
budget
so
that
somebody
could
be
hired
expeditiously
and
out
of
at
their
full
salary.
J
And
then
my
colleagues
before
you
do
that,
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
you,
I'm
just
going
to
tell
you
new
administration,
whatever
the
new
administration.
Is
it's
going
to
be
crazy,
the
first
week
or
two
to
do
this
while
we
have
the
month
so
that
gives
the
new
mayor
and
the
new
people
involved
will
be
new
personnel
people
involved
in
the
whole
process.
So
they
can
learn
the
process
and
bring
in
the
person
that
they
want
to
bring
in.
A
J
A
K
Mr
chairman,
if,
if
if
I
might-
because
I
think
councilwoman
friedman's
point
is-
is
a
good
one,
so
chuck
and
and
chris
along
obviously
with
mayor
david,
is
it
possible
that
maybe
we
could
post
the
job
now
and
that
in
the
offset
chance
that
a
good
round
of
applications
are
received,
the
difference
between
the
full
salary
and
the
proposed
the
11
month
version
is
only
about
3
300.
A
E
Can
I
jump
in
for
a
second
actually,
you
would
have
to
do
it
at
the
first
meeting
in
january,
because
once
you
pass
the
budget
in
on
october,
30th
or
before
october
30th,
it
is
locked.
You
cannot
change
the
2022
budget.
At
that
point,
I
think
that
was
part
of
the
reasoning
behind
this.
Is
that
once
you
pass.
J
Somebody
yeah,
but
I
think
what
you're
saying
when
aviva
is
saying
what
phil's
saying,
if
you
wanted
to
add
3
000,
I'm
just
saying
three
thousand:
that's
what
this
adds
up
to
three
thousand
dollars
to
next
year's
budget.
You
can
do
that.
Okay,
today,
okay
and
fund
this
come
january
1st.
If
you
want
to
hire
that
person
before
january.
First,
you
have
to
modify
the
budget
this
year.
This.
K
Year,
correct,
that's
right!
That's
why
I'm
saying
if,
if,
if
the
difference
between
the
actual
and
the
11
month
is
only
3
300
right
october,
1st
is
already
friday.
So
we're
not
talking
that
many
months
out
of
this
year
in
the
offset
chance
that
we
receive
a
good
applicant,
and
so,
if
we
put
an
advertisement
out
now
we're
being
proactive,
but
if
no
good
applications
come
through
that
meet
the
minimal
standards
and
obviously
with
chris's
input.
K
J
K
G
G
K
A
Okay,
any
questions
for
mr
schleider
on
66
or
93-94
or
chuck.
H
K
J
Chris,
before
you
go,
you
made
no
changes
in
the
prices
right.
A
Okay,
let's
we're
almost
exactly
on
schedule:
let's,
let's
go
ahead
and
stay
with
the
agenda
and
take
a
five-minute
recess
just
to
refresh
for
a
second,
if
we
could
be
back
just
before
6
15
and
we'll
get
started
again,.
H
A
A
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Everybody
we're
we're
right
on
time,
so
I
think
we're
doing
well,
we'll
keep
keep
it
rolling
here.
Mr
kruger
is
with
us.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
follow
the
same
pattern
that
worked
just
well
with
dpw.
We
will
split
the
mr
kruger
sections
into
the
water
and
sewer.
We
will
start
with
the
operating
expenses
and
we
will
move
back
to
we'll
start
with
the
operating
expenses
and
we'll
let
chuck
pitch
in
on
the
benefits.
A
So
that
said,
I'd
like
to
officially
open
all
pages
151
to
173.
Those
are
the
pages,
the
total
pages
for
the
water
fund
as
well
as
I
think
this,
no,
the
next
section
has
a
has
a
capital.
So
no,
we
do
have
capital
in
this
section
as
well,
so
it
is
so
151
173
and
212
that
relates
to
the
water
fund.
So
we
are
going
to
start
with
pages
157
to
162,
which
is
the
operating
expenses
portion.
So
go
ahead.
Mr
cooper.
I
Thank
you,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
council.
Thank
you,
members
of
city
council.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
budget
for
2022
I'll
go
through
it.
I'll
denote
any
changes.
We
did
what
we
could
to
keep
it
very
close
to
the
cuff.
I
On
par
information,
tech,
engineering,
corp,
council,
water,
sewer
network
communication
services,
no
changes
office
supplies
stay
the
same
telephone
effects,
internet
slight,
slight
decrease
from
last
year,
page
158
professional
services
same
as
last
year,
no
different.
I
Fee
structures
have
again
dropped
down
a
little
bit.
Gis
stays
the
same
equipment
repair
maintenance
for
the
administration
area,
which
is
phones
and
computers.
Such
we
do
have
a
slight
increase.
We
expect
to
do
some
work
with
the
phone
system.
I
Legal
ads.
Advertising
postage
stayed
the
same,
trailing
traveling,
training
out
of
that
budget
line
same
membership
fees
stayed
the
same
page
one.
Five,
nine
personal
services.
I
Other
than
we
have
a
new
position
that
we're
planning
a
water
treatment
plant
mechanic,
it's
not
a
position.
We've
had
filled
in
over
15
years
that
I
can
remember.
I
We
have
a
lot
of
work
going
on.
We
have
a
lot
of
money.
We've
been
investing
in
newer
equipment,
we'd
like
to
start
off
a
much
better
maintenance
program
than
whoever's
in
front
of
it.
Try
to
fix
it.
It's
worked
for
us
and
we've
kept
the
place
going
for
a
long
time,
but
we
are
doing
what
we
can
to
keep
the
investments
well
protected.
G
Good
thanks,
so
I
have
a
question
on
the
previous
page.
Speaking
of
maintenance.
I
see
hw
sw,
I'm
assuming
that's
hardware,
software
maintenance
and
is
this
a
new
line
because
I
noticed
it
hasn't
been
funded
in
the
past.
I
I
G
I
Fixed
a
few
issues
with
how
we
cover
shifts
who's,
covering
when
recovering
it,
works
out
better
for
everyone
involved
and
saved
us
a
bunch
of
money
on
overtime.
So
it's
a
good
move.
I
Small
equipment
stayed
the
same
general
operating
supplies,
we're
trying
to
stay
par
with
what
we're
spending
spare
parts
same
as
it
was
chemicals.
We've
come
down
a
little
bit
where
we
could,
but
that's
still
a
fairly
unstable
market
with
pricing
in
between
shipping
issues
and
then
there's
actually
some
supply
issues
with
chloride,
chlorine
and
fluoride.
I
I
I
I
That's
a
number
that's
generated
from
the
sewage
treatment
plant.
It
takes
into
consideration
the
waste
by-product
of
treating
water
that
we
send
to
them.
It's
dependent
on
weather
conditions
and
water
conditions,
whatever
may
change,
so
that
number
is
pretty
hard
to
nail
down.
I
They
have
a
three
or
four
page
equation:
they
use
to
come
up
with
a
dollar
amount.
So
that's
where
we
have
room
to
move
with
this
but,
like
I
said
it's
really
subject
to
weather
and
everything
else.
Anything
that
would
generate
more
sludge
from
our
process
would
be
a
higher
increase.
J
Jeff,
let
me
expand
a
little
bit
on
that
too.
We're
also
looking
at
a
jeff
is
going
through
a
two
phase
process,
a
sludge
extraction
system,
so
we
don't
need
to
utilize
the
sewage
treatment
plant
in
the
future.
The
first
half
should
be
finished
up
here
shortly,
the
second
half
we
are
working
on
a
grant
to
do.
The
second
half
of
the
the
first
part
costs
about
five
million
dollars.
J
We
got
about
50
of
that
in
grant
money
the
next
one
we
anticipate
to
be
about
the
same
price,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
that
same
amount
of
money
from
this
state.
They
just
came
out
with
a
new
grant
that
you
no
longer
have
to
wait
five
years
in
between
grants
that
you
can
apply
for
a
new
one
within
a
year,
so
we're
in
that
process.
I
I
Personal
services,
no
changes
contractual
increases.
I
General
operating
supplies,
same
thing,
vehicle
parts,
keeping
on
par,
tires,
fuel
lubricants
same
little,
decrease
to
meter,
repair
parts.
Again,
meters
aren't
something
we
really
repair.
I
I
Uniforms
contractual
protective
clothing,
we
have
increased
it
for
some
more
safety
gear,
clothing,
allowance,
contractual
professional
leak,
detection
services,
we've
dropped
down.
We
have
our
own
leak
detection
services
that
we're
doing
ourselves
we're
getting
better
at
it
every
year.
We
do
it
we're
using
an
outside
source
and
our
trainer
for
the
most
part
a
little
bit
less
than
we
have
in
the
past.
So
we're
able
to
drop
that
a
little
bit.
I
Good
repairs,
maintenance
drop
to
where
we
could
travel
and
training
all
the
travel
and
training
for
the
water
department
is
for
the
licenses
that
most
of
my
people,
their
professional
licenses
through
the
department
of
health.
They
have
x
amount
of
courses,
they
must
attend
each
year
and
they
renew
their
licensing
every
three
years.
With
your
continued
education
program,
so
state
retirement.
J
For
the
state
retirement
same
situation
as
the
refugees
fund
down
a
little
bit
from
last
year,
aviva
same
situation.
Only
the
first
quarter
of
the
year
is
in
here
social
security,
a
derivative
of
the
total
wages
workers,
compensation,
that's
gone
down
as
they
stated
before:
unemployment,
insurance
and
disability
or
unemployment,
zero
disability
insurance.
J
J
J
The
ef
onenote
is
the
first
one
on
that
line
efc2000
and
b.
This
is
our
last
payment
we
have
to
make
on
that
bond
so
next
year,
this
fund
will
be
losing
thirty
three
thousand
dollars,
as
the
mayor
stated,
there's
an
opportunity
for
the
next
administration
to
possibly
lower
rates
or
use
that
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
other
capital
projects
or
something
else
not
in
22
123.
J
J
And
transfer
to
capital
I'll.
Let
jeff
talk
about
this,
but
this
is
something
that
we
did
change
a
few
years
ago
where
we
used
to
budget
every
year
for
these
items
and
if
they
didn't
spend
them
they
went
away.
We
now
will
put
money
behind
that
budget
time
to
make
sure
that
jeff
has
enough
money
there.
We
don't
if
he
2
000
a
year,
but
some
years
he
only
uses
25.
J
We
could
move
money
around
each
budget
process
and
not
actually
have
it
go
back
to
fund
balance,
it's
saved
out
there
and
can
be
used
the
following
year.
J
The
fiscal
agent
fees
is
cost
to
do
that,
jeff
when
you
go
through
the
other
ones,
they're
mainly
yours,.
I
Equipment
rehab.
We
try
to
keep
this
to
large
pumps,
high
expenditures
in
that
case,
so
we
don't
have
any
shock
if
something
goes
wrong.
We
have
somebody
set
aside
to
cover
big
expenditures
and
they
can
happen
at
any
time.
I
The
meter
program
we're
sitting
good
right
now
with
the
fund
balance,
so
we
didn't
have
to
add
more
to
it:
building
repairs,
it's
ongoing
building
repairs
in
addition
to
the
filtration
plant.
We
continue
to
put
money
in
that.
It's
pretty
huge
complex
when
things
go
wrong
there,
it's
never
a
fifteen
dollar
it
loads.
It's
always
something
far
larger
water
valves
again
we're
set
with
how
we've
done
that
piping
material,
ongoing
expenditures,
equipment
again
with
the
construction
side
of
what
we
do.
I
I
These
are
huge
pieces
of
equipment
with
pretty
hefty
price
tags.
A
lot
of
these
start
at
over
a
hundred
thousand
and
just
go
up
from
there.
So
keeping
your
equipment
and
things
like
that.
These
lines
up
saves
us
from
having
shop
to
the
budget
when
something
goes
wrong:
hydrogen
program,
the
expenditure
for
hydrants
each
year,
lab
equipment,
we're
sitting
good
right
now,.
I
Annual
scada
and
hardware
and
software
for
that,
the
computer
system
that
runs
the
water
plant
is
fairly
elaborate
and
complex,
again
repairs
and
things
that
go
wrong.
I
A
What
was
that
that
matches?
What
goes
over
to
212
on
the
capital?
Correct?
Yes,
but
he
just
okay,
so
in
essence
that
that
what
jeff
just
did
is
covers
212..
Does
anybody
get
expenses
on
the
water
fund
of
the
operating
and
benefits
and
capital
157
to
173
and
212
for
jeffery
chuck,
go
ahead,
councilman.
B
G
G
J
Aviva,
this
is
why
we
did
what
we
did
a
few
years
ago
by
breaking
it
out
in
here
if
he
was,
if
the
water
department
did
not
spend
as
much
of
the
expenses
this
year,
for
whatever
reason
we
didn't
have
to
budget
for
it
and
overcharged
the
ratepayers
okay,
this
when
we
went
through
the
whole
process,
there
was
enough
money
in
all
these
different
accounts
that
we
didn't
have
to
put
all
that
money
in
it.
For
next
year,
we
feel
135
000
should
be
sufficient
to
cover
what
jeff
needs
and
leave
some
extra
money.
There.
G
Okay,
that
I
mean
that's
about
half
of
the
2021
budget
and
that
you
feel
like
that
would
be
sufficient.
Just
135
000.
I
J
Aviva,
if
you're
in
city
hall,
you
can
stop
at
my
office
and
I'll
try
to
show
it
would
be
easier
if
you
saw
the
capital
lines
that
aren't
here
like.
If
you
look
here,
if
you'll
take
a
line,
h,
8340
59017
for
the
hydrant,
we
could
pull
that
up
and
you'd
see
how
many,
how
much
money
is
still
in
that
account
and
jeff
could
tell
you
what
he
needs
for
next
year.
G
H
I
have
a
question:
go
ahead:
councilman
yeah,
thank
you,
jeff
for
all
of
that,
and
I'm
wondering
the
the
money
that
we
approved
from
the
american
rescue
money.
The
coveted
money
that
I
think
was
4.5
million
for
water,
filtration
and
sewer
upgrades
is
that
in
here.
J
That
is
not
in
this
year's
budget
that
is
now
in
the
capital
fund.
We
transfer
that
out
of
the
general
fund
into
the
capital
fund
and
there's
a
separate
line,
for
I
can't
remember
how
many
we
set
up.
Was
it
two
or
three
months?
There
was
two
separate
lines,
one
for
the
water
pump
stations
and
one
for
the
filtration
improvements.
A
Okay,
I'll
let
jeff
and
chuck
decide
well,
let's
go
back
to
151
through
155
or
epsilon
154
and
the
rates
and
the
revenue.
However,
you
want
to
do
that
is
fine.
154.
J
The
second
one
is
the
cap
charges
water
service
charges
are
fees
for
different
things
that
customers
college
up
and
asking
for
to
do
interest
on
late
payments,
the
interest
or
interest
and
subsidy,
meaning
that
efc
gives
us
a
reduction
in
our
interest
rates.
That's
where
that
is
recorded
and,
lastly,
is
interfund
revenues,
which
is
money
that
comes
basically
from
the
sewer
fund.
So
the
total
revenue
is
expected
to
be
six
million.
Eight
hundred
and
eighty
two
thousand
eight
hundred
and
thirty
nine
dollars.
J
Going
back
to
page
153
gives
you
a
list
of
all
the
bonds
that
we've
had
out
there.
If
you
look
on
page
153,
underneath
the
bond
issue
of
2015,
I'm
in
the
process
of
refunding
the
2015
bond,
I
got
rough
estimates
of
what
that
savings
gonna
be
for
the
water
fund.
J
J
A
B
A
All
in
favor
aye
aye
anyone
opposed
okay,
great
okay,
we're
gonna
use
the
exact
same
model
for
the
sewer
fund.
So
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
pages
174
through
199.
A
A
I
Okay,
sewer
administration,
we
have
split
payment
to
keep
dispatchers
a
lot
of
times
when
dispatchers
are
called
out
for
overtime.
It's
because
of
a
water
sewer
call
that's
where
you
come
up
with
a
split
fee
to
cover
the
cost.
I
I
Equipment
repair
maintenance,
not
in
there
postage
16
000.
it's
for
mailing
out
bills.
Every
year,
g8120
personal
services,
page
183,
contractual
expenditures.
We
know
what
the
salary
is
going
to
be.
That's
all
set
in
stone
there
over
time,
we're
trying
to
balance
what
we
see
and
what
we've
been
spending.
I
I
Chemicals
held
the
same
odor
control
is
part
of
what
we
get
root
killer
for
sewer
lines.
It's
a
big
expenditure
there
still
not
that
much,
but
it's
something
we
use
a
lot
of
uniforms,
contractual
protective
clothing,
clothing
allowances,
it's
all
contractual.
I
J
Sewage
treatment
plant
project
that
hopefully
it
comes
to
an
end
before
the
end
of
the
year,
hopefully
by
the
end
of
november.
A
G
Mr
chairman,
can
you
provide
a
little
bit
more
specifics?
Please
about
the
sewage
treatment
plant
line
on
page
185.
J
Sure
that's
the
net
difference
between
what
they
charge
us
and
I
think
you
guys
I'll
use
this
as
an
example,
and
this
these
aren't
numbers
that
you
can
really
hope.
I'm
doing
enough,
but
they're
budget,
roughly
25
million
dollars,
that
25
million
dollars
consists
of
debt
service
for
the
city
and
village
and
local
system
costs
for
the
village
and
city
and
then
their
budget
over
there
is
about
eight
mil
eight
to
nine
million
dollars.
J
Everything
else
is
made
up
of
what
I
just
said
to
you.
So
if
you
take
that
25
million
we
make
up
roughly
half
the
flow
that
goes
into
the
sewage
treatment
plant
so
that
25
million
we
get
charged
12
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
get
to
deduct
the
cost
that
we
put
into
it
through
the
city,
such
as
paying
for
the
bonds
paying
for
the
local
system
costs.
J
G
J
What
it
really
is,
is
the
sewage
treatment
plant
really
charges
us
twelve
thousand
four
million
dollars
right,
okay,
but
we
spend
nine
hundred
and
seventy
five
nine
million
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
in
debt
payments
and
local
system
costs
that
we
get
credit
against
that
twelve
million.
The
difference
is
the
12
million
225,
which
is
here.
G
G
I
see
so
that
is
a
I
can't
think
of
the
word,
but
that's
us
like
eating
the
the.
A
That's
the
inner
fun
chuck
that
we
saw
last
week
or
the
week
before
when
we
were
over
at
the
sewer
plant
doing
that
yeah.
So
I'm
gonna
go
back!
That's
a
good
question!
I'm
gonna
go
back
and
look
at
that
other
budget-
and
you
could
say
hopefully
they'll
they
should
match
up-
are
pretty
close
to
to
the
one
that
we
just
passed
from
the
sort
plant.
J
J
J
J
H
J
J
That
that
is,
we
basically
have
two
individuals
who
work
for
the
city
handling,
making
all
the
payments
on
the
sewage
treatment
plant
plant
project.
So
basically,
when
the
contractors
would
send
an
invoice
here,
it
goes
to
a
variety
of
different
scenarios.
J
J
J
Checker,
we
are
on
workers
comp
the
same.
We
have
lower
worker
cop
rates,
insurance
or
unemployment
insurance.
We
usually
don't
have
any
disability
insurance,
nothing.
J
J
Sewer
fund
had
to
increase
other
employee
benefits,
are
nothing
serial
bonds.
Anything
that
you
see
with
an
efc
project
is
related
to
the
joint
sewage
treatment
plant.
On
top
of
that,
if
you
look
at
the
very
bottom
there's
a
bond
issue
that
says
21x
and
21y,
that
is
additional
money
that
we're
bonding
in
november
for
the
sewage
treatment
plant
that
I
don't
have
the
numbers
on.
I
have
best
estimates
working
with
efc
all
the
other
bond
issues
that
you
see
from
19
down
to
21.
J
Those
are
notes
related
to
water
and
in
this
case
just
sewer
improvements
out
in
the
streets.
J
We
got
half
of
that
back
to
the
other
municipalities
at
the
sewer
plant.
J
Next
page
is
the
bands
which
are
the
current
work
that
we're
doing
now:
pursuer
work
where
it
says
0303
and
0306.
J
J
Okay,
I
probably
ruffled
a
few
feathers
this
week
because
some
of
this
money's,
14
million
dollars
is
two
years
old
and
I
went
above
some
people's
head
and
got
a
hold
of
the
state
and
said
I
need
the
money
enough's
enough
and
we
don't
get
a
solid
answer
next
week,
we'll
go
to
the
next
step
higher.
J
Dinner
fund
transfer.
We
have
none
of
that
here
and
transfer
to
capitals.
I'm
going
to
go
on
that.
One.
I
All
right,
we
have
castings
we're
transferring
50
000.
that
covers
all
the
street
reconstruction
repaving.
We
replace
castings,
where
we
have
to.
I
To
cover
another
purchase
order,
we've
been
covering
and
re
paving
a
lot
of
streets,
and
that's
we
took
a
big
hit
on
castings,
so
yeah.
That's
why
we're
gonna
be
that's.
I
Money,
probably
one
of
the
next
meetings
equipment,
covers
a
wide
variety
of
equipment
vehicles,
camera
trucks.
I
We
keep
those
we
have
to
keep
those
very,
very
well
maintained
and
put
the
money
aside
to
make
sure
we
have
money
to
cover
whatever
goes
wrong,
so
we
can
have
them
fixed
as
fast
as
possible
whenever
we
do
have
a
problem
with
the
systems
and
again
we're
putting
away
money
for
hardware
and
software
for
computer
controls
and
our
scada
systems.
A
Okay,
those
yeah
those
items-
I
just
double
checked-
match
the
capital
on
212,
so
we
covered
that
it
mentions
the
appendix
222.
There's
looks
like
there's
a
couple
lines
there,
I'm
not
sure
what
what.
J
A
So
we'll
go
back
to
the
revenue
and
summary
and
appendix
starting
back
at
170
through.
C
J
J
Okay,
page
176
is
a
list
of
all
the
debt
issues
when
they're
due
and
when
they
expire
and
things
of
that
nature.
J
177
178
is
the
revenue
portion
of
this.
The
sewer
rents
are
10.5
million.
There
is
a
six
percent
increase
in
this
year's
sewer
budget
to
cover
the
cost
of
basically
the
sewage
treatment
plant
debt.
I
will
also
tell
you
that
I
anticipate
in
2023
another
six
percent
requirement,
okay,
but
we
should
be
set
after
that
interest
on
the
sewer,
300
000
unmetered
cap
fees,
885
000
interest
subsidy
from
esc
of
1.5
million
benefit
from
refunding.
These
are
bonds
that
we've
refunded
through
efc.
They
can't
give
us
a
lower
interest
rate.
J
And
that
gives
us
a
total
revenue
of
13
million
307
with
that
being,
I
think
you
could
agree
with
that.
We
should
go
to
page.
J
Okay,
yeah:
we
should
do
the
rates
here
on
page
175
rate,
so
you
can
see
what
the
rates
will
be
on
march
2022
and
what
they'll
go
up
to
on
april
2022.
E
K
J
And
then
page
174
everything
we've
gone
over
with
the
exception
of
the
appropriate
fund
balance,
we're
appropriating
889
000
and
using
premium
obligations
of
48
0014.
to
balance
out
everything.
I
G
I
A
Okay,
does
anybody
have
any
other
questions
for
jeffrey
chuck
or
lori?
I'm
the
on
the
sewer
fund,
one
the
totality
of
174
to
199,
212
and
222.
C
Yes,
this
is
councilwoman
riley,
but
on
175
chuck
you
did
talk
about
a
6
increase
that
we
see
in
the
rate
that
will
be
effective
april
2022,
and
you
mentioned
that
we
may
need
to
have
another
increase
in
2023
to
adjust
and
accommodate,
for
I
missed
that
piece.
J
The
the
rationale
is,
hopefully
we
get
this
14
million
from
fema,
which
takes
care
of
a
lot
of
debt
that
we
have.
Currently,
we
have
I'm
going
to
say
18
million
dollars
in
bands
of
which
I'm
going
long-term.
It's
in
this
budget
of
somewhere
between
12
and
15
million,
I'm
having
trouble
because
we're
not
collecting
that
14
million
from
the
fema.
J
I
would
rather
take
as
much
debt
as
I
could
at
one
percent
interest
rate
than
waiting
a
year
or
two
and
going
up
to
three
or
four
percent.
I'm
battling
with
efc
on
that,
probably
not
going
to
win
the
battle
at
15
million,
I'm
probably
going
to
end
up
getting
12..
J
But
on
top
of
that
we
have
roughly
I'm
going
to
say
a
maximum
of
18
million,
more
left
to
pay
in
joint
sewer
project
of
which
we
have
14
million
dollars
in
fema
money
coming
plus
another
six
that
we
are
in
the
process
of
applying
for
plus
a
legal
fee
of
the
lawsuit
we
have
going
on
from
2006.
That,
hopefully
wins
us
10,
possibly
some
amount
greater
than
that.
C
Okay,
yeah,
we
are
operating
with.
What
is
our
revenue
I'm
trying
to
find
the
page,
so
I
can
quote
it.
J
J
It's
always
looking
at
that.
It's
really
a
punctuating
number
last
year
was
not
a
good
number
to
use
because
of
the
covet
situation.
Money
flux
give
you
example,
suny
binghamton
distorted
the
cost
to
the
plant
and
all
the
municipalities.
They
were
down
80
percent,
so
we
had
to
pick
up
a
big
chunk
of
that.
J
Believe
me,
the
question
you're
asking
me:
the
mayor
asked
me
at
least
once
a
week,
and
I
think
six
percent
is
the
next
number
that
we
need
to
go
in
the
23
budget
and
I
think
the
city
will
be
set.
I
can't
say
that
for
other
municipalities,
okay,
because
we
have
not
just
waited
to
the
end
like
some
municipalities-
are
and
want
to
throw
everything
at
the
very
end,
we've
been
trying
to
do
this
gradually.
B
J
C
And
and
again
so,
if
we,
if
we
receive
that
rebate
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
we
may
not
necessarily
see
another
six
percent.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
variables
to
this
process,
not
only
the
funding
streams
that
may
appear,
but
also
the
the
rebate.
We
can
count
on
if
our,
if
we've
approximated
as
accurately
as
possible,
because
I
don't
want
people
to
be
afraid-
we
just
threw
out
a
six
percent
and
we're
projecting
another
six
percent.
So
we
there
is
pos
it's
possible.
We
may
not
necessarily
see
that
sex.
J
That
that's
I'm
giving
you
an
estimate
on
that
totally
and
you
you
are
correct.
That's
what
it
is:
an
estimate,
some
things
that
could
actually
change
that
dramatically.
We
get
more
people
living
in
the
city
of
binghamton.
They
use
more
water
that
drives
down
the
overall
cost.
There's
there's
so
many
variables
that
go
into
this
calculation.
K
Mr
chairman,
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
pages:
176-199
sewer
fund
portion
of
the
capital
capital
fund
on
page
212,
appendix
c,
on
222
and
the
summary
and
rate
pages
on
page
174
and
175..
B
A
Okay,
I
think
it
was
a
successful
first
night
lee
has
sent
out
the
you
sent
that
out
rightly
yeah.
I
apologize,
we've
been
trying
to
be
a
he's
been
trying
to
be
in
lee
and
jean
have
been
trying
to
be
accommodating
to
our
fellow
colleagues
at
the
city,
we're
getting
less
patient
with
changes
at
this
point,
so
I'm
hoping
that
that
stays
firm.
But
that
is
the
reason
there
was
a
late
request
from
mr
paddock
and
we've
been
trying
to
be
accommodating,
but
at
this
point
we
gotta
pretty
much
go
with
it.
A
We
can't
can't
keep
changes,
so
I
agree
with
that.
So
you
should
have
that
on
your
emails.
Now,
we'll
have
a
brief
session
monday
before
about
45
minutes.
We
will
not
do
anything
after
the
work
session
on
monday,
so
it'll
be
very
brief.
That'll
be
the
only
time
we
correspond
with
a
another
meeting
and
then
we'll
have
our
regular
meetings
monday
wednesday
and
then
next
then
thursday
will
be
our
next
full
session.
So
with
that
I'll
take
a
motion
to
adjourn
meeting
one
with
a.