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B
E
D
B
You,
madam
clerk,
this
time,
we'll
move
forward
with
RLS
23-190
and
193.,
ask
Chief
sakoski
to
join
us
evening
Chief.
How
are
you
good.
G
B
Are
you
good
to
see
you
if
you
wouldn't
mind
walking
us
through
a
23-190,
please.
A
G
The
end
of
the
year
this
is
asking
to
transfer
the
monies
in
the
budget
is
to
create,
from
a
first
grade,
patrolman
to
a
tennis
position
that
position
historically,
the
training
super.
There's
training
officers
always
been
a
supervisor
until
the
last
10
years,
when
I
thought
the
best
candidate
for
that
position
was
a
patrolman.
G
That
in
itself
creates
some
some
problems,
as
you
well
know,
being
in
the
military.
Patrol
Maple
rank
with
most
of
the
department,
so
on
Friday,
our
training,
director,
retired
and
I'd
like
to
assume
that
make
that
position.
So
in
that
case,
every
heat
outranked
would
be
equal
to
everybody,
but
eight
people
within
the
apartment.
B
E
G
There's
been
a
patrolman
in
the
last
10
years
in
training.
H
G
That
that
inherently
this
is
a
semi-military
organization.
When
you
have
a
you
know.
As
you
know,
training
is
one
of
the
most
important
positions
within
an
apartment
lawsuits
and
how
we
interact
with
citizens
in
the
community.
So
at
the
time
that
I
switched
that
to
a
patrolman's
position
was
10
years
ago.
G
Historically,
as
far
as
I
know,
for
decades
before
it
was
always
a
supervisor
he's
since
retired,
and
so
there's
been
a
few
problems,
you
know
bumps
in
the
road
over
the
years,
so
it
best
serves
the
department
and
the
community
that
it
supervisors
in
charge
of
training.
A
Lieutenant's
position
would
be
equal
to
our
he'd,
only
be
outranked
by
eight
eight
positions
within
the
department.
G
E
How
many
lieutenants
do
we
currently
have
in
the
fourth
five,
and
he
would
be
the
sixth
if
this
is
funded?
Yes
and
and
again,
we
are
doing
this
because
we
feel
that
a
lieutenant
rank
would
be
better
in
this
role.
Yes,
as
opposed
to
what
it
has
been
for
10
years.
Yes,
okay,
are
we
having,
and
you
have
a
candidate
for
I.
G
G
That's
that.
G
An
RL
it's
going
to
move
135
744
from
the
personal
services
line.
G
As
you
well
know,
we
have
numerous
openings
several
to
repurpose
our
guns
to
We
Can't
report
carry
40
blocks,
the
FBI
recommends
I
know
the
mayor
sent
some
literature
out
to
everybody
earlier
today
for
various
reasons
that
on
nine
millimeter
is
a
better
option
for
police
officers,
one
being
that
people
with
smaller
stature.
The
gun
is
smaller
and
with
the
recent
developments,
just
like
everything
else,
there's
now
nine
millimeter
ammunition
that
is
equal
to
the
40
caliber.
G
You
know
if
I
may
I
know
who
and
who
didn't
read
it
I,
don't
know,
but
the
FBI
says
these
organizations
are
talking
about
police
officers.
Switching
to
the
nine
millimeters.
These
organizations
are
providing
their
own
Personnel,
the
best
chance
of
surviving
the
deadly
force
encounter,
since
they
can
expect
faster,
more
accurate
shooting
strings,
higher
magazine
capacities
and
all
the
terminal
performances
which
can
be
expected
by
any
law
enforcement
caliber.
G
As
I
said,
it's
also
an
easier
weapon
for
the
smaller
statue
officers.
We're
also
proposing
to
put
Optical
sites
on
them,
which
is
the
new
state
of
the
earth
thing
and
even
enhances
your
certain
ability
and
to
hit
your
target
safely,
which
is
obviously
our
main
goal.
Improve
accuracy
as
well
prove.
G
Even
more
than
the
nine
millimeters
itself,
though,
there's
less
recoil
most
people
who
are
probably
in
the
room,
don't
know
what
I'm
talking
about
you
see
it
on
TV
when
somebody
fires
a
gun,
your
hand
goes
up
from
the
40
caliber
to
the
nine
there's
less
of
that,
making
it
more
accurate.
So
not
only
is
it
safer
for
the
officers
it's
safer
for
the
pub
the
public
also
making
it.
You
know
they're
more
accuracy
when
they
shoot.
I
You
good
thank
you,
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
any
data
on
how
often
the
police
do
discharge
their
guns.
H
I
G
To
other
than
destroy
an
animal
thank
God,
it's
almost
never
mm-hmm
so,
but
most
police
shootings
is
a
satellite
which
is
big,
TV,
take
place
in
cities,
our
size
and
smaller.
You
never
know
when
you're
going
to
have
a
double
encounter.
We
deal
with
Firearms
the
media
doesn't
report
it
we're
taking
guns
off
the
street
every
single
day,
if
not
every
single
day.
Several
times
a
week,
SIU
is
getting
loaded,
handguns
we're
stopping
people
on
the
street,
carrying
guns.
I
Mm-Hmm
so
I'm
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
our
police
officers
are
hardly
ever
firing
their
weapons,
so
I'm
wondering
given
the
fact
that
that's
the
case,
this
is
not
an
insignificant
amount
of
money.
I'm
just.
G
I
failed
to
say
also
35
000
were
getting
back
when
we
trade
into
current
guns,
once
we
transition
over,
which
will
take
place
at
35,
744
will
be
reflected
in
a
revenue
line
coming
back
in
next
year
once
we
transition
if
it's
approved,
so
it's
a
hundred
thousand
in
reality.
I
Okay
and.
I
I'm
also
wondering
you
know,
reading
this
document
that
the
mayor
sent
out
it
I
have
to
admit
it's
a
little
bit.
Some
of
the
language
is
just
a
little
bit
upsetting
I
know,
that's,
maybe
not
a
professional
word
to
use,
but
talking
about
you
know
the
like
how
effectively
these
wounds
human
targets
and
hit
vital
organs.
You
know
it's.
I
G
I
G
Equals
smaller
terrible
gun,
kelberg
gun,
which
is
it's
got
a
smaller
frame
and
the
ammunition
in
some
places
is
less
so
it's
not
making
it
and
we're
we're
not
putting
anybody
ahead
of
anybody.
It's
making
the
public
more
safer
because
it's
going
to
make
the
officers
especially
officers
of
a
smaller
statue,
more
accurate,
more
accurate
with
the
shooting,
okay.
I
B
E
Again,
how
are
you
Chief,
Mr,
Cascade
I?
Don't
think
I
started
with
that
last
time,
so
I
looked
at
this
data
and
it
is
written
from
2014
and
usually
when
we're
using
sources
to
support
anything
relevant.
We
use
more
timely
data,
so
we're
saying:
is
there
anything
new?
That
was
because
this
is
from
2014.
G
It
is
okay,
the
FBI
is
pushing
out
even
more.
The
other
departments
are
switching
over
to
it.
Now,
there's
a
bigger
push
now
than
in
the
past.
This
was
originally
in
2014,
but
they're
pushing
out
even
more
the
FBI
himself
for
transitioning
over
to
nine
millimeter
handgun.
It's
my
understanding.
Do.
E
G
It's
pertinent
as
much
now
as
it
was
in
2014..
This
is
what
our
training
in
this
short
period
of
time
we
had
since
last
week
when
he
got
online
looking
for
the
the
pertinent
data,
but
he
belongs
to
several
training
organizations
both
in
the
state
and
the
FBI,
as
I
said,
is
pushing
the
suggested
not
pushing
not
making
anybody
do
anything.
It's
just
their
suggestion
that
law
enforcement
switch
over
to
nine
millimeters.
For
the
reasons
I've
already
said,
okay.
E
And
okay,
so
who
is
the
he?
You
said
he
did
the
research
to
find
this
officer.
E
E
So
in
terms
of
the
rollout
once
this,
if
this
is
voted
on
and
approved,
because
you
said
this
will
make
it
safer
for
our
law
enforcement,
which
my
co-counsel
mentioned
is
great,
if
approved-
and
we
have
these
in-house
there's
a
rollout
and
an
implementation
phase,
correct
correct,
so
training
would
be
first,
that's.
G
G
Hopefully,
there's
tone
of
60
90
days
at
least
the
sooner
we
get
the
order
and
the
better
because,
as
I
said
before,
don't
ask
I,
don't
have
the
answer.
Why
there's
a
bigger
push
now
to
go
to
them?
Agencies
around
the
country
are
so
our
representative
said
he's
hoping
60
to
90
days
if
the
money's
funded,
but
then
then
it
takes
time
to
train
so
hopefully,
within
the
next
six
months.
Okay,.
E
E
G
E
G
Years
decades,
decades
Sometimes
they
come.
We've
we've
been
carrying
40
calibers
since
I
believe
1992
and
we've
transitioned
three
times
since
92,
just
because
they
upgraded
a
mile.
There
might
be
something
a
little
better
here
and
there
we've
never
had
any
fail.
We've
sent
some
backs
with
minor
cracks
things
like
that,
but
you
tell
me
you
probably
know
more
than
I
do
Mr
President.
B
B
G
G
The
officers
themselves
are
showing
the
minor
way
to
do
that,
and
just
recently
there
was
appear
to
be.
You
almost
need
a
magnifying
glass
of
stress
fracture
and
we
sent
that
back
and
they
gave
us
another
one.
E
G
Yes,
that's
there's
no
extra
cost
of
In-House
training,
the
the
Optics,
the
gun,
Nets,
the
135,
then
the
35.
135
7
and
then
the
35
Plus
rebate.
Once
we
send
them
back
the
current
40
calibers
that
we
have
okay.
H
E
G
C
J
G
J
J
I
would
like
to
ask
your
permission
to
for
you
to
declare
yourselves
lead
agency
or
a
project
that
the
terminal
pumping
station,
which
goes
to
the
benefits
sewage
treatment
plant
and
that
terminal
pumping
station
needs
some
improvements
made
to
it
and
we've
applied
for
a
grant.
This
needs
to
go
into
complete
a
Grant
application
and
I
have
filled
out
Parts
one
and
then
I
filled
out
part
two.
So
you
can
see
that
there
was
no
significance
here
and
we're
asking
that
you
would
declare
yourself
lead
agency
and
then
do
a
determination
of
non-significant.
Thank.
I
Thank
you,
president
spongy
hi
Ron.
How
are
you
good
thanks
in
declaring
ourselves
lead
agency?
J
J
B
Appreciate
you
this
time
ask:
can
you
join
us
for
RL
23-186.
A
B
K
Okay,
so
I'm
filling
in
for
both
Ken
and
Steve
Carson.
If
that's
okay,
absolutely.
K
You,
okay,
RL
23-186.
This
is
to
transfer
funds
for
a
responsibility
adjustment
for
the
superintendent
of
city
street
and
the
first
Deputy
Commissioner
of
Public
Works
until
November
25th
of
this
year.
So
this
is
because
of
the
leave
of
absence
taken
by
the
city's
DPW.
Commissioner.
K
Temporary
leave
of
absence
to
employees
in
DPW
are
essentially
stepping
up
to
take
on
additional
responsibilities
and
work
as
a
result
of
that,
while
he's
gone
so
this,
this
transfer
would
provide
a
responsibility
adjustment
in
the
form
of
a
stipend
for
both
of
those
employees
to
compensate
them
for
the
extra
work.
E
Councilwoman
I'm!
Well,
how
are
you
good
good,
so
we
we
see,
there's
a
great
significance,
difference.
A
significant
difference
in
the
rates
of
compensation
for
the
two
employees
are
those
in
alignment
or
are
they
respective?
Are
they
in
respect
to
the
amount
of
Duties
and
the
additional
responsibilities?
How
are
these
numbers
calculated?
Yes,.
K
So
it's
based
on
the
additional
responsibilities:
Josh
belluti
is
the
current
superintendent
of
streets.
K
K
I,
don't
off
the
top
of
my
head,
it's
bi-weekly
and
it's
through
the
25th,
as
you
said,
and
now.
B
See
none
23-187,
Megan.
K
Yep,
so
this
is
to
authorize
the
mayor
to
amend
and
the
VOA
agreement
extending
the
contract
period
until
the
end
of
this
month.
This
is
just
approving
an
extension
of
a
contract
that
Council
already
approved
with
the
VOA
for
ESG
funds
for
their
men's
shelter,
the
VOA
needed
additional
time
to
submit
reimbursement.
K
Okay,
23-188
and
23-189.
K
These
are
connected
in
the
sense
of
we're
looking
to
amend
agreements
with
Outreach
Ministries
and
the
YWCA
to
allocate
funding
to
help
spend
down
some
of
our
covid
ESG
funds
for
the
Outreach
Ministries.
We're
looking
to
increase
funding
to
cover
the
cost
of
some
additional
supplies
for
their
homeless
outreach
program
and
then
same
thing
for
the
YWCA
expect
accept
this
specific
ask
there
is
for
to
cover
the
cost
of
a
vehicle
for
their
home
homeless
outreach
program.
L
L
K
This
is
going
to
Outreach
Ministries,
who
we
fund
pretty
much
every
year
with
ESG
homeless
money
and
it's
essentially
to
buy
no.
E
Worries
no
if
it
meets
the
criteria
I'm,
okay,
especially
because
this
is
an
at-risk
population
we
need
to
serve,
but
I
just
was
not
familiar
with
the
organization.
With
that
nomenclature,
yeah
I'm
thinking
it
was
probably
something
else
as
something
else
previously.
That's
all
I
just
wanted.
K
It's
been
Outreach
Ministries
as
long
as
I've
been
familiar
with
them,
but
probably
more
commonly
known
for
the
showers
of
Hope
program.
Thank.
B
I
Good,
thank
you.
So
you
you
mentioned
that
this
increases
to
help
spend
down
some
of
that
extra
money,
and
this
does
strike
me
as
a
worthwhile
allocation.
But
I'm
wondering
if
there
have
been
any
other
organizations
that
have
applied
for
the
covet
ESG.
K
Yes,
so,
where
kind
of
nearing
the
end
of
that
process,
but
the
our
coven
money
has
gone
to
several
organizations
homeless
organizations,
specifically
some
of
it,
went
to
the
coordinated
entry
program.
They
used
up
a
good
amount
of
it
rental
assistance,
Mortgage
Assistance.
K
So
this
is
we're
kind
of
nearing
the
end
and
we're
looking
to
spend
down
before
the
deadline.
We
have
these
contracts
in
place
with
these
two
organizations
and
they
had
asks
for
supplies.
Okay,.
I
K
To
my
knowledge
and
the
ESG
funding
is
has
more
narrow
perimeters
since
it
has
to
serve
homeless
population
specifically,
so
there
are
only
a
handful
of
organizations
that
I'm
aware
of
the
city
works
with
right.
I
I
No,
it's
a
I
mean
it
sounds
great
and
I.
Just
you
know
we
care
about
process
as
well
as
sure
products.
So
thank
you
sure.
B
M
Well,
I'm,
bringing
back
an
application
to
purchase
92
Park
Ave,
previously
reviewed
by
the
Community
Committee.
The
application
has
been
changed.
The
applicant
has
increased
her
amount
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
I
guess
maybe
clarify
a
little
bit
the
difficulty
we're
having
with
this
property
we've
had
six
open
houses,
we've
had
multiple
showings
on
requests,
we've
had
four
signed
offers
to
purchase.
Two
of
them
were
withdrawn.
M
Well,
three
of
them
were
withdrawn.
One
of
them
just
appeared.
This
is
the
fourth
one.
We've
had
one
verbal
offer
with
no
followed
up
written
request.
Our
application
of
purchase.
We've
spent
109
000
on
this
one
property,
because
the
condition
that
it
was
in
we've
had
at
least
one
break-in
so
far
with
squatters
that
have
caused
another
twelve
hundred
dollars
worth
of
damage.
Plus
we
had
to
replace
a
water
meter.
M
Let's
see
the
cost
to
complete
the
property
is
going
to
be
at
least
another.
Fifty
thousand
so
I
brought
pictures
of
the
first
floor
that
we
did
not
renovate
the
first
floor.
We
put
all
of
the
money
into
the
exterior
the
siding,
the
roof
and
the
second
floor
unit.
We
left
the
first
floor
mainly
due
to
cost,
but
we
have
it
clear
to
stud.
So
it's
it's
ready
to
go.
There's
rough
in
for
a
bathroom
and
that's
about
it.
So
I'm
gonna
pass
these
around.
E
Thank
you,
council
president,
how
are
you
Dr,
Burling,
fine.
M
E
You
good
good,
let's
just
clarify,
so
the
city's
rise
neighborhood
stabilization
program
is
to
increase
housing
access
and
eligibility
to
those
that
may
not
have
had
access
or
eligibility
before
right.
So
our
priority
would
be
to
increase
availability
or
access
to
someone
that
may
not
be
able
to
buy
a
home
with
a
standard
mortgage
standard
loan.
Correct.
M
L
M
The
remaining
repairs
will
be
about
another.
Fifty
thousand
okay.
E
M
Is
this
was
a
property
that
I
thought
would
have
made
a
very
good
investment
for
someone,
but
the
cost
of
it
was
a
lot
more
than
we
thought.
There's
a
lot
of
water
damage.
We
had
to
rebuild
windows,
so
the.
E
M
We
could
put
more
money
into
it.
I
have
about
70
000
remaining
when
we
sell
the
property.
The
money
goes
back
into
that
renovation
line
and
really
leery
about
putting
more
money
into
it.
We're
already
in
about
actually
about
110
000
now
without
having
completed
that.
M
M
M
Now
this
individual
is,
we
did
modify
the
the
sales
agreement,
the
offer
to
purchase
agreement
for
this
one.
It
was
the
only
property
we
had
that
could
be
considered,
retail
and
residential
because
it
had
the
lower
level.
Is
it's.
M
So
we
modified
that
agreement
to
take
out
the
actual
requirement
for
it
to
be
an
LMI
purchase
offer.
That
was
one
of
the.
If
you
look
at
the
actual
offer
where
they
have
it's
one
of
the
qualifiers,
so
if
an
individual
you
know
was
a
veteran
or
to
the
school
district
with
the
city,
employee,
first-time
homebuyer
or
LMI,
if
they
checked
off
those,
they
got
I
guess
a
higher
priority.
M
So
that
we
we
kind
of
prioritize
the
offers,
the
seven
Harrison
was
a
bit
more
competitive
because
it
was
in
a
nice
neighborhood
and
it
was
a
lovely
house
and
this
one
we
just
haven't-
had
any
valid
offers.
M
I've
considered,
if,
if
we
can't,
if
we
don't
sell
it,
if
we
give
it
to
the
land
bank
or
we
give
it
to
First
Ward,
that
money
doesn't
go
back
into
our
program,
but
those
are
things
we
can
do
or
we
can
look
into
that.
Okay,.
E
Right
I,
I
will
just
say
on
the
record.
We
know
housing
is
an
issue
we
also
I,
fundamentally
believe
housing
is
a
human
right.
However,
when
someone
has
multiple
properties
in
the
county-
and
this
looks
like
something
they
can
now
make
an
investment
for
themselves.
When
we
know
we
have
people
sleeping
outside
here,
I
have
I,
don't
support
are
using
State
funds
for
such.
We.
M
M
And
the
first
floor
or
the
second
floor
only
has
one
unit
one
bedroom
in
it.
So
we
could.
We
have
every
right
to
we
sell
it
at
this
discounted
price
to
this
individual
discussed
or
target
audience
is
and
I
don't
know
that
passive
lawyers,
if
we
can
require
it
to
be
rented
only
to
low
moderate
income
individuals.
L
H
M
Because,
right
now
what
we
have
written
into
this
contract
is,
we
have
to
see
the
site
plan
as
we
approve
the
Planning
Commission,
and
if
the
work
is
not
completed
on
a
timely
basis,
we
can
request
they
repay
us
for
the
amount
and
there's
about
a
seventy
five
thousand
dollar
discounted
price
to
encourage
someone
to
come
in
and
finish
the
building.
So
there
are,
there
are
Avenues
and
we
could
write
additional
Clauses
into
it.
We
have
a
recaptured
clause.
M
We
have
the
completion
of
the
project,
but
right
now
we
need
to
do
something
with
the
property
so
either
and
to
be
honest,
three
other
offers
that
came
at
two
two
other
offers
were
from
people
that
also
own
properties,
so
they
renovate
and
either
sell
or
rent
to
people.
One
of
them
was
a
gentleman
who
wanted
to
live
there,
but
he
found
a
better
property
in
the
Jewish
Opera
and
then
one
was
Sabrina
Brooks
who
we
have
been
able
to
contact
since
last
November.
E
M
Can't
sell
within
five
years,
if
she
does,
she
has
to
repay
prorated.
Okay.
M
E
B
A
N
President
yeah
yeah
Dr
Berlin,
based
on
the
photos,
so
if
we're
selling
it,
as
is
completely
unfinished
like
that,
so
whoever
does
buy
it
with
would
probably
have
to
put
in
the
same
amount
of
money.
That's
that
they're
paying
for
almost
belongs.
N
Also
you,
you
may
have
answered
this
within
your
answers
before,
but
we
have
a
time
limit
on.
If
they
buy
it,
I
mean
do
they
have
to
be
working
on
it
right.
M
M
No,
they
have
to
happen
if,
once
the
contract
gets
approved
approved,
they
have
to
give
us
a
reuse
plan.
We
have
to
see
blueprints
has
to
go
through
Planning
Commission,
and
all
of
that
is
like
within
three
to
six
months.
We
want
to
see
a
Ed
Planning
Commission,
with
an
approved
plan
for
renovation.
M
Oh
yeah
yeah
yeah.
We
could
put
that
in.
H
M
Didn't
add
that
in
but
with
Planning
Commission,
if
you
don't,
it
shows
substantial
progress
towards
your
project
within
six
months.
You
have
to
ask
for
an
extension
or
go
through
the
whole
process.
Again.
Okay,.
A
M
And
I
know
that
these
people
are
actually
motivated
right,
so
they're
ready
to
go.
Okay.
A
M
A
B
This
time,
we'll
like
to
ask
Sarah
gloss
from
Economic
Development
to
join
us
for
RL
23,
183
and
184.
B
O
Perfect
so
I've
seen
and
then
I'm
going
to
introduce
my
my
esteemed
colleagues
here
and
then
we'll
give
you
all
the
information
you've
ever
wanted
to
know
about
the
project
at
187
Clinton,
Street,
okay.
So
we
are
here
to
present
RL
23-183
to
amend
the
2023
general
fund
to
allocate
arpa
funds
to
support
an
affordable
housing
project
at
187,
Clinton
Street.
O
So
this
is
a
requested
allocation
of
2.12,
no
2.21
million
dollars
in
arpa
funding
to
support
pre-development
activities
at
187,
Clinton
Street
to
support
the
sighting
of
102
units
of
affordable
and
Workforce
housing
on
the
essentially
the
corner
of
Clinton,
Street
and
Jarvis,
just
one
storefront
in
so
this
is
really
similar
to
the
allocation
that
this
body
has
previously
passed
in
regards
to
supporting
the
YWCA,
affordable
housing
project
on
Lyle
acquisition
and
pre-development
activities
that
ultimately
support
the
the
final
project.
This
project
has
been
brought
to
you
guys
a
couple
times.
O
You
authorized
the
submission
of
a
restore
New,
York
application
and
then
the
subsequent
acceptance
of
2.5
2.95
million
dollars
from
the
state
of
New
York
to
support
this
project.
O
And
then
you
guys
heard
a
little
bit
about
this
when
I
brought
it
for
another
Brownfield
opportunity
area
funding
just
a
few
months
ago,
as
part
of
our
Consolidated
funding
application
to
New
York
state
so
really
actively
trying
to
support
this
project
in
a
variety
of
ways
to
ensure
that
it's
funding
gets
over
the
finish
line,
and
this
is
the
largest
allocation
from
the
city
to
date
and
secondly,
to
that
state
2.95
million
dollars.
That
is
a
reimbursable
grant
for
this.
O
So
I'd
like
to
introduce
my
colleagues
Rob
muchnick
who's,
the
president
of
the
Metro
Group
and
Miles
Monahan
who's
representing
the
mega
group,
not
to
confuse
those
two,
the
Metro
Group
and
the
mecca
group
who
are
working
together
on
this
project.
I'm,
going
to
toss
it
over
to
Rob
who's,
going
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
the
impetus
of
this
project
and
then
miles
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
financing
and
then
we'll
we'll
happily
take
questions.
P
Thank
you
Sarah.
Thank
you.
Everybody
I
appreciate
everything
all
your
time.
My
name
is
Rob
muchnick.
My
company
is
the
Metro
Group
we're
a
family-owned
business.
We've
been
my
dad
started
it
65
years
ago,
I've
been
in
it
for
37
years,
we've
built
plus
or
minus
2500
units
of
all
kinds
of
different
types.
P
Currently
I'm
going
for
approvals
for
165
units
of
market
rate,
rentals
in
Riverhead,
New,
York,
80,
units
of
affordable,
Workforce
housing
in
the
town
of
Southampton
and
seven
units
in
the
village
of
Patchogue.
So,
basically,
as
you
can
see,
I'm
based
on
Long
Island
and
my
son
David,
who
was
sitting
right
over
here,
is
the
next
generation
and
David
was
going
to
school
down
the
block
here
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
he
called
me
up
and
said
pops.
P
So
the
kid
asked
his
Professor,
who
was
the
former
County
Planning
commissioner
and
he
said,
speak
to
the
person
in
charge
now
Beth
Lucas
and
he
so
he
did
and
within
a
few
days,
Beth
emailed
us
a
list
of
eight
or
ten
properties
which
the
county
would
really
like
to
see
developed
for
Workforce,
affordable
housing.
P
We,
we
went
and
perused
this
list
and
we
found
one
we
liked
and
I
found
it
online
and
within
five
minutes,
Joel
Boyd
got
back
to
me
and
said:
yeah
we're
going
to
help
you
buy
it,
and
so
I
got
in
touch
with
the
owner,
a
fellow
named
Ron
Rogers,
and
it
took
a
few
months.
We
worked
out
a
contract,
so
we're
in
contract
and
we've
been
trying
to
get
this
going
and
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
project.
It's
going
to
be
a
102
plus
or
minus
units.
That's
the!
P
What
we're
thinking
of
right
now
and
over
here
is
a
concept
of
concept
sketch
of
what
we
think
it
could
look
like
what
we
would.
We
think
that
would
really
fit
in
well
in
the
neighborhood
and
so
on.
One
of
my
projects
I'm
doing
right
now
in
town
of
Southampton.
My
partner
is
a
company
called
the
NRP
group.
P
They
are
the
largest
affordable
housing
developer
in
the
country,
so
when
I
was
dealing
with
them,
which
I
still
am
miles
over
here
was
the
number
two
man
in
their
New
York
City
office
and
that's
how
we
met
and
he
went
to
become
the
lead
man
at
a
different
Manhattan
developer
and
that's
how
he
we
met,
and
he
is
really
the
expert
on
funding
for
the
affordable
housing,
because
it's
very
much
different
than
from
funding
for
market
rate,
which
is
what
I
know
so.
I
know
how
to
build
things.
P
Q
Thank
you
rob
thank
you
Sarah
good
evening.
Everyone
thanks
for
your
time.
My
name
is
Miles
Monahan
I'm,
serving
in
in
this
capacity
as
development
consultant
to
the
Metro
Group
and
Sarah
referenced
before
I'm
the
development
director
at
Mega
group.
We
are
a
queens-based,
not
Manhattan,
based
and
there's
a
distinction
there.
Q
We
really
specialize
in
in
mid-rise,
affordable,
Workforce,
mixed
income
housing
throughout
the
Metropolitan
region.
We've
built
9,
000,
Apartment
Homes
throughout
the
five
boroughs
and
and
the
greater
Metro
in
New
York.
We've
We've
expanded
up
into
Dutchess
County
this.
This
project,
specifically
I'll,
be
assisting
the
Metro
Group.
In
my
role
as
a
consultant
and
and
bringing
my
expertise
as
kind
of
Rob
alluded
to.
Q
My
professional
experience
includes
serving
at
in-state
government
at
the
homes
and
Community
Renewal
HCR,
managing
their
taxes
and
bonds,
financing
and
four
percent
tax
credit
program,
and
and
some
of
that
experience
included
financing
some
some
large-scale
projects
across
the
state
of
New
York,
you
guys
might
be
familiar
with,
one
of
which
is
201
Ellicott
Street
in
Buffalo,
New,
York
downtown.
Q
You
know
parking
lot,
you
know
highly
underutilized.
You
know
downtown
asset.
That
was
that
was
just
a
large
parking
lot
that
is
now
home
to
a
grocery
store.
You
know
200
units
of
mixed
income,
housing
serving
you
know,
a
variety
of
income
levels.
You
know
that
affordable
rents
and
the
project
was
75
million
dollars.
Q
Other
experiences
include
financing
the
Redevelopment
of
Winbrook
houses
and
White
Plains
with
the
municipal
Housing
Authority
of
White
Plain,
White
Plains,
and
this
was
kind
of
a
full
repositioning
of
their
public
housing,
campus
and
kind
of
infill
new
construction,
development
of
Workforce
housing,
rebuilding
public
housing
units
mixing
that
in
with
you
know,
lower
income,
housing,
Workforce
housing
as
well
as
market
rate
housing
and
really
integrating.
You
know
the
neighborhood
to
kind
of
dispel.
Q
You
know
the
the
former
errors
of
you
know.
Large-Scale
urban
renewal
in
in
you
know
the
mid
20th
century,
so
really
exciting
stuff
that
the
state
was
financing
and
they're
really
interested.
In
being
part
of.
Q
You
know:
City
Urban,
revitalization
kind
of
initiatives
that
you
know
our
colleagues,
you
know
Sarah
and
the
mayor
are
really
have
have
kind
of
put
their
heads
together
with
us
and
said
you
know.
Really.
We
really
want
to
focus
on
this,
and
we
really
want
to
make
the
state
kind
of
aware
of
the
city
of
Binghamton
as
a
place
where
you
know,
housing
is
thought
of
as
kind
of
an
economic
development
asset
and
and
even
even
in
my
time
in
at
the
state
as
I
was
leaving.
Q
I
wasn't
actually
involved
in
closing
the
financing,
but
saw
the
early
stages
in
the
city
of
Rochester
their
work
on
the
inner
loop
and
how
you
know
the
city
really
laid
the
groundwork
spent.
You
know
Capital
monies
to
prepare
development
sites
in
the
downtown
and
the
state
then
came
in
later
right
to
Finance,
affordable
housing
in
the
downtown
core,
as
really
a
revitalization
strategy,
so
really
excited
about
Clinton
Street
as
being
kind
of
a
keystone
asset
to
to
fulfill
something
like
that.
Q
We're
at
the
kind
of
inception
stage,
of
course-
and
you
know,
as
Rob
alluded
to
it's-
you
know
this
is
this-
is
kind
of
the
start
right
102
units,
and
we
really
want
to
sink
our
teeth
into
this,
and
this
2.2
million
in
pre-development
funding
would
really
allow
us
to
progress.
You
know
the
the
development
process.
We
have.
You
know
a
whole
team
that
we
need
to
hire
and
build
and
bring
on
right,
Architects
Engineers,
environmental
Consultants.
Q
This
is
likely
going
to
be
a
Brownfield
site,
so
we
will
need
to
do
a
significant
soil
testing
and
get
into
the
dec
Brownfield
program.
That
process
is
is
slow.
There,
there's
a
DEC
backlog
right
now
on
Brownfield
applications,
so
you
know
from
you
know,
onboarding
a
consultant
to
DEC
approving
the
remedial
action
work
plan.
Q
That's
a
that's
a
9
to
12
month
process
at
a
minimum
and
this
process
on
the
environmental
side
overlaid
on
the
HCR
financing
pipeline
for
for
bonds
and
tax
credits
is
also
backed
up
for,
for
many
reasons,
covid
you
know
and
and
just
a
demand
for
their
financing
resources.
Q
That's
also,
you
know
a
12
to
18
month.
You
know
pipeline,
so
we
we
want
to
get
started
immediately
and
and
begin
the
process
to
submit
those
applications.
We
obviously
have
to
onboard
that
Consulting
team
and
this
this
Capital
ask
would
go
a
long
way
to
making
that
happen
and
I
think
that's.
That's
all
I
have
foreign.
O
One
more
thing
before
I
turn
it
over
to
questions,
and-
and
that
is
why
we're
coming
to
city
council
at
this
stage,
to
talk
about
this
and
asking
for
that
2.2
million
in
acquisition
and
pre-development
as
miles
mentioned,
the
the
on-ramp
for
getting
these
things
funded,
shovels
in
the
ground,
actual
construction.
You
know
we're
looking
at
18
months,
18
to
24
months.
O
That
puts
us
past
our
timeline
for
our
bun
needing
to
be
allocated
and
puts
us
in
a
tight
timeline
for
it
needed
to
be
spent,
and
so,
rather
than
risk
these
funds
waiting
until
the
construction
phase.
We
want
to
support
the
acquisition
and
pre-development
that
will
enable
them
to
actually
get
this
project
over
the
Finish
Line
and
the
one
other
thing
and
I'll
have
miles
confirm
this
to
me.
O
Once
we
spend
this
2.2
million
in
pre-development
costs
upon
successful
application
to
New
York
state
for
Brownfield,
cleanup
program,
tax
credit,
the
state
actually
refunds
that
money
back
to
the
developer
to
invest
in
the
property,
so
our
2.2
million
becomes
4.4
million
in
investment
in
affordable
housing
in
Binghamton.
I
think
this
is
a
really
really
Dynamic
project.
O
We've
been
talking
about
a
really
long
time
in
our
community
meetings,
as
we
explore
our
dri
application,
which
we're
going
for
again,
and
this
will
again
be
a
Cornerstone
of
that
application,
and
so
we've
gotten
really
positive
feedback
on
it.
Really
looking
forward
to
using
this
money
to
kick
start
this
process
and
ensure
that
that
18
to
24
months
stays
18
to
24
months
and
doesn't
slip
into
into
a
36
month.
Process
as
affordable,
housing
and
and
development
of
this
size
can
do
and,
as
we've
all
seen
can
be
really
delayed.
O
B
You
Sarah
I,
don't
normally
jump
on
this,
but
I'm
glad
you
kind
of
brought
that
up
all
right.
So
this
is
from
a
funding
perspective.
This
is
like
a
twofer
basically
right
once
we
essentially
get
through
this
initial
stage.
My
understanding
correct
the
state
is
reimbursing
a
hundred
percent
to
actually
go
completely
toward
the
construction
process.
Correct
yeah,
the
2.2
million
I'm,
sorry
yeah.
Q
B
Thank
you
very
much
I
apologize
about
that.
Thank
you,
discussion,
councilman
Scanlon,.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
for
coming
tonight.
Can
you
explain
the
difference,
I'm
sure,
two
or
three,
because
between
affordable
housing
and
Workforce
housing,
yeah.
O
O
This
project
is
at
this
stage
as
we're
looking
at
the
financing
it's
50
and
60
Ami,
so
we're
kind
of
calling
the
50
is
that
affordable,
60
is
Workforce
and
especially
because
we
are
making
investments
in
the
Charles
Street
Business
Park,
to
ensure
that
that
becomes
what
it
always
should
be,
which
is
a
driver
of
job
creation
and
specifically
entry-level
jobs.
O
We've
talked
a
lot
about
the
first
ward
in
Clinton
Street,
really
getting
back
to
its
roots
as
a
walk
to
work,
Community
where
people
have
gainful
employment
but
are
able
to
own
houses
in
the
First,
Ward
or
or
live
above
a
shop
on
on
Clinton
Street,
and
so
that's
where
that
50
to
60
percent
is
kind
of
that
affordable
at
50
Workforce
at
60,
although
in
other
contexts
you
might
see
them
defined
slightly
differently.
But
that's
how
the
city
of
Binghamton
looks
at
those.
N
Mr
President,
thank
you
all
for
coming
and
I
love.
The
project
looks
absolutely
wonderful
and
sounds
wonderful.
N
I'm
just
wondering
now
about
the
arpa
funds
and
I
understand
why
we
have
to
give
the
money
early,
because
we
have
to
spend
the
money
down,
but
is
there
any
possibility
that
you
know
due
to
interest
rates
or
something
else
where,
after
we're
that
far
into
it,
that
it
might
get
canceled
project
I've
seen
projects
come
to
an
end
like
State
and
Court
Street?
It's
you
know,
we've
seen
those
is
there
a
possibility
that
we
would
lose
the
money.
O
Yeah
great
question
and
I
I
apologize
I
did
not
bring
it
up
at
the
beginning.
We
are
working
with
core
Council
to
develop
language
in
the
way
that
we
allocate
this
money
that
if
the
project
does
not
go
forward,
that
we
would
get
the
piece
of
property
all
the
development
documents
all
of
the
planning
architecture,
environmental
reporting,
so
that
we
could
decide
at
that
point
if
we
wanted
to
bid
the
project
out
to
their
developer.
O
If
we
wanted
to
find
another
partner
who
might
take
it
over,
it's
also
a
really
crucial,
just
real
estate
asset.
That
corner
has
the
potential
to
really
be
an
asset
for
Clinton
Street,
but
it
also
has
the
potential
to
be
under
private
ownership.
It
could
potentially
be
a
parking
lot.
It
could
potentially
be
something:
that's
not
necessarily
driving
economic
or
housing
options
in
the
city
of
Binghamton,
so
we
are
building
that
into
our
contract
to
say,
Hey.
You
know
we're
fronting
this
money,
essentially
on
the
beginning
of
the
project.
O
If
it
doesn't
go
forward,
here's
what
our
options
are
for
for
recourse,
so
that
the
city
of
Binghamton
still
gets
the
value
of
the
asset
and
I'm
going
to
ask.
My
I
also
talk
a
little
bit
about
just
how
these
projects
at
what
point
they
kind
of
become.
The
kind
of
the
ball
continues
to
roll.
Q
Sure
so
I
mean,
as
many
of
you
are
probably
aware,
development
you
know
takes
a
long
time.
You
know
get
getting.
You
know
this.
You
know
the
this
kind
of
blighted
site
to
to
be.
You
know
a
thriving
multi-family
Community.
There
are
many
stages
of
that
process.
Q
The
the
the
the
state
will
not
really
view
this
project
as
the
real
thing
until
we
have
site
plan
approval
at
at
a
bare
minimum,
so
getting
to
the
approval
stage
locally
is
an
absolute
key
milestone
in
in
kind
of
getting
in
line
effectively
for
that
Bond
financing,
the
and
that
you
know,
is
going
to
be
a
few
months
at
a
bare
minimum
right
to
get
a
concept
set,
architecturally
submitted
right
or
review
and
moving
through
the
the
you
know
the
local
process
here
in
the
city
of
Binghamton.
Q
In
addition,
the
other
key
approval
is
the
dec
Brownfield
approval
and,
like
I
mentioned,
you
know
it's
it's
it's
they're
backed
up
on
their
review.
It's
highly
contingent
on
the
the
conditions
on
the
site,
whether
you're
dealing
with
groundwater
contamination,
soil
contamination,
soil
Vapors
that
can
change
how
they
review.
If
they
ask
for
additional
testing
in
different
areas
of
the
site,
so
it
you
have
to
be
kind
of
flexible
in
terms
of
you
know
how
that
process
moves
forward,
but,
typically
you
know
you're
you're
approved
in
kind
of
stages.
Q
So
there's
you
know
a
remedial
investigation,
work
plan
they'll,
prove
that
that's
to
go
out
on
site
and
do
the
investigation.
Then
you
have
to
summarize
that
into
a
remedial
investigation
report.
That's
summarizing
your
findings.
They'll
approve
that
each
of
those
stages
you'll
be
notifying
the
state
of
your
progress
right
and
and
along
the
way,
the
project
kind
of
becomes
more
and
more
of
a
viable.
Q
You
know,
financing
you
know
priority
for
the
state
and
and
that
final
approval
with
DC
is
the
remedial
action
work
plan
and
that's
when
they'll
issue
the
decision
document
on
you
know
what
type
of
activities
we
would
be
taking
on
the
site
to
remediate
the
contamination
during
construction
and
and
that's
kind
of
that
final
stage,
so
that
process
does
take
time
and
and
to
even
begin.
You
know
that
conversation
with
the
EC.
We
need
to
obviously
collect
the
data
on
the
site.
P
And
if
I
could
jump
in
for
a
sec,
unlike
other
types
of
Investments,
the
more
you're
in
them,
the
more
you're
into
this
one,
the
more
secure
you
are
because
the
more
approvals
we're
going
to
have
the
closer
we're
going
to
be
to
the
finish
line.
So
the
more.
If
something
craps
out
you've
got
something
that
you
can
that
you
can
use
a
different
time
with
a
different
developer
down
the
road
I
mean
I'm,
not
doing
it
for
the
next
developer,
I'm
doing
it
for
us.
P
But
if
something
happens
like
you
said,
you
guys
will
have
something
the
more
you're
into
it.
The
more
you
have,
oh,
and
and
also
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
revitalization
of
the
area
of
Clinton
Street,
and
our
project
has,
in
addition
to
cleaning
up
the
site,
which
is
a
really
good
for
the
area,
cleaning
up
the
environmental
conditions
there
and
Revitalize
revitalizing
the
area
by
bringing
in
102
rental
units.
P
I
Thank
you,
president
hi.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
be
here
today
with
us.
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions,
or
maybe
more
than
a
couple,
so
I
know
you
mentioned
that
affordable
means
40
to
50
Ami.
O
Q
So
I
can
I
can
I
can
pull
up
what
they're,
currently
the
the
current
2023
but
I
think
what
Sarah's
alluding
to
is.
You
know
by
the
time
the
project
is
financed.
That
could
be
two
years
from
now,
we'll
have
different
area
meeting
incomes
at
that
time,
right
and
so
for
2023,
the
city
of
Binghamton
100
of
Ami
is
85
300
a
year,
so
50
of
Ami
right
for
a
one
bed
that
someone
earning
approximately
forty
thousand
dollars
a
year
right
and
that
unit
would
go
for
800
a
month.
A
A
Q
I
Q
The
Ami
60
would
be
you
know
in
around
50
000
a
year
just
over
fifty
thousand,
and
you
know,
the
the
rents
are
basically
tagged
to
thirty
percent
of
that
income
right
and
that's
HUD
guidelines.
I
Right:
okay,
what
I
think
I
read
that
it's
going
to
be
mixed,
not
mixed
use
mixed
income,
affordable,
housing,
community,
so
I'm
wondering
do
you
have
any?
Do
you
have
a
percentage
of
units
set
aside
to
be
affordable
versus
Workforce
versus
maybe
market
rate.
Q
We
don't
yet
right
now,
we're
really
focused
on
you
know,
site
due
diligence,
design,
engineering
and
trying
to
get.
You
know
this
kind
of
idea
into
a
concept
plan
and
then
looking
to
see
you
know
at
that
time,
when
we
have
that
plan
developed
what
the
financing
term
sheets
you
know,
the
state
term
sheets
are
basically
incentivizing
right
and
and
targeting
those
Amis
as
Sarah
alluded
to,
though
you
know,
the
the
goal
is
50
to
60
of
Ami
and,
and
you
know,
it'll
be
a
mix.
Basically,
okay,.
P
O
I
just
want
to
add,
as
a
condition
of
the
Restore
New
York
funding
we've
committed
to
a
certain
mix
in
the
units
with
New
York
state
now,
I
think
what
miles
is
alluding
to
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is
that
you
know
in
the
development
of
these
units?
Is
there
a
possibility
that
we
we
stray
from
those
I?
Think
right?
O
They
would
change
our
allocation
slightly
based
on
if
we
had
to
change
it,
but
those
changes
would
really
only
be
to
ensure
that
the
project
gets
over
the
finish
line
that
the
financing
makes
sense.
Our
commitment
is
for
this
to
be
a
fully
50
to
60
percent,
affordable
housing
project
I,
don't
I!
Don't
imagine
that
there
would
be
any
market
rate
in
this
yeah
it
would.
O
It
would
all
be
that
50
to
60
just
to
stay
in
line
with
Arbor
Store,
New
York
dancing
and
to
make
sure
that
the
project
pencils
out
at
the
end
of
the
day.
I
And
I
I
know
you
just
mentioned
this.
Is
this?
Money
specifically
is
for
the
pre-development,
but
I'm
wondering
how,
if
you
know
how
many
bedrooms
each
unit
would
have.
C
Q
I
That
would
be
great,
I
mean
the
the
reason
why
I
asked
specifically
is
that
we
do
have
you
know
a
fair
number
of
developers
coming
in
with
plans
to
make
affordable
housing
units,
and
then
an
issue
in
my
opinion
is
that
a
lot
of
these
are
one
and
two
bedroom
units
which
leaves
no
room
for
families
and
that's
that's
a
a
big
hole
that
we
have
in
the
housing
market.
I
P
I
actually
have
that
reverse
that
same
issue
in
Reverse
in
one
of
my
other
projects,
they
they
they
have
a
code,
no
three
bedroom
units,
only
Studios
ones
and
twos,
because
they
don't
want
families.
So
I
know
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
right.
O
Yeah
and
I
I
do
think
at
least
that
it's
at
this
point
right
now.
This
project
really
is
more
of
that
one
to
two
bedroom.
It
it's
what
it's
designed
for.
It's
not
necessarily
designed
to
be
a
number
of
family
units.
It's
really
we're
looking
at
that.
O
Folks
who
are
walking
to
work
ideally
are
having
kind
of
entry-level
jobs
as
we're
trying
to
attract
manufacturing
to
Clinton,
Street
and,
ideally
and
I,
know
that
this
is
hard
to
to
prove
on
paper,
but
I
do
know,
anecdotally
a
number
of
single
people
that
are
living
in
three
family
or
three
bedroom
homes
simply
because
they
could,
and
there
wasn't
necessarily
availability
in
the
in
the
apartment,
rentals
and
so
I
do
think
we
have
people
who
are
occupying
real
estate
in
the
city
of
Binghamton
as
rentals
that
may
be
more
appropriate
for
families,
but
are
currently
being
occupied
by
you
know
single
people
and
couples
simply
because
there
just
aren't
enough
apartments
that
they
might
be
interested
in
moving
into
before
they
committed
to
purchasing
property
or
kind
of
finding
their
forever
home.
O
Some
of
those
folks
are
simply,
you
know,
buying
homes,
not
necessarily
in
this
market,
but
previously,
because
the
rates
were
so
favorable
and
hey.
If
I'm
gonna
have
to
spend
six
months
trying
to
find
an
apartment
anyway,
is
it
better
for
me
to
just
buy
a
home,
even
though
I
am
just
a
single
person
at
this
time.
I
Yeah,
that's
been
interesting.
I
hadn't
considered
that,
to
be
honest,
so
my
my
last
well
I
guess:
I
have
two
more
questions.
So
let's
say
you
know
if
let's
say,
if
Council
passes
this
and
you
are
able
to
secure
this
funding,
this
is
for
the
the
pre-development,
the
site
cleanup
and
all
of
that.
What
is
your
funding
source
going
forward?
I
know,
you
said
the
HDR
pipeline
is
backed
up,
but
is
this?
I
Q
C
Q
Q
So
the
the
the
state
right
when
you
clean
up
a
site
you're
eligible
for
Brownfield
tax
credits.
Typically,
the
the
bank
who's
buying,
the
low
income,
housing
tax,
credit
purchases,
the
Brownfield
tax
credits
as
well.
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
now
my
last
question
for
real.
This
time
is
I'm
wondering
if
this
securing
this
funding
would
make
or
break
the
project
like.
If,
if
this
funding
was
not
secured,
could
this
project
still
go
forward?
Would
your
company
be
able
to
you
know
front
this
money
on
the
assumption
that
once
it's
built
you'll
regain
that
from
the
rents
that
are
paid
yeah.
O
So
the
biggest
issue
right
now
is
that
rob
oweds
a
balloon
payment
on
the
acquisition
costs
and
those
are
substantial,
and
so
that
is
and
you'll
see
in
the
budget
the
breakout
of
what
the
acquisition
costs
are
but
and
that
does
need
to
be
paid
by
the
end
of
the
month.
There's
a
contract,
that's
not
part
of
your
packet
because,
that's
you
know,
proprietary
information
between
the
landowner
and
and
Rob
at
our
core
Council
has
reviewed
it
to
confirm
that
you
know.
O
That's
all
that
contract
is
solid
and
that
they
are
are
under
contract,
but
the
payment
does
need
to
be
made
by
the
end
of
the
month,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
we
are
coming
here
today,
because
that
gives
us
enough
time
to
to
hopefully
have
the
funds
approved
by
the
end
of
the
month,
so
that
Rob
can
secure
the
site
after
the
end
of
the
month.
O
His
contract
is
no
longer
valid
technically,
and
so,
while
we
would
be
optimistic
that
he
could
re-enter
negotiations
with
the
property
owner,
These
funds
secure
the
site
and
cite
site
control,
Beyond,
just
the
contract,
which
is
what
we
were
required
to
have
for
ReStore
New
York,
just
evidence
that
they
were
under
contract
on
the
project.
We've
now
reached
the
stage
where
they
really
need
to
have
full
site
control
in
order
to
move
to
the
next
step.
O
I
will
just
add
one
thing,
so
this
is
a
concept
for
a
project
that
Rob
didn't
Riverhead
I
believe
so
this
is
not
what
the
final
project
will
look
like,
but
this
was
the
closest
that
we
thought
this
project
would
be
the
idea
being.
The
project
will
be
close
to
the
street,
much
like
all
the
rest
of
Clinton
Street.
O
Where
you
have
you
know,
storefront,
you
know
nice
accident
Street
front
as
Rob
talked
about
a
small
amount
of
commercial
space
there,
as
well
as
a
brick
or
other
finishing,
that's
sympathetic
with
the
rest
of
Clinton
Street,
and
just
so
it's
a
it's
a
good
example
of
the
type
of
quality
project
that
Rob
brings
to
the
table,
though
not
an
exact
rendering
of
what
this
project
will
look
like.
E
Q
Yeah
I
believe
this
will
be
the
first
as
well.
I
I
will
say,
though,
that
often
municipalities,
through
their
programs,
will
Source
arpa
funding
and
and
brand
them
as
some
kind
of
other
local
program
loan.
So
as
a
borrower
of
those
funds,
you
may
not
actually
be.
You
know
aware
that
they
are
from
our.
Q
Yes,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
the
city
of
New
York
using
member
item
discretionary
Capital,
so
City
Council
Members,
you
know,
will
fund
subordinate
loans
to
projects
that
they
want
to
see,
get
done
in
their
districts
and
we
have
a
lot
of
experience
at
Mega
using
those
kinds
of
funds.
So
you
know,
as
that
money
comes
into
the
city
budget
through
various
sources.
Q
You
know,
member
city
council
members
will
make
those
those
those
funds
available
to
projects
they
want
to
see
get
done.
So
we
do
have
experience
using
Municipal,
I,
guess,
programs,
okay,.
E
And
can
you
share
with
me
one
of
the
most
recent
projects
you've
received
from
the
boroughs
which
district
just
can
you
share
such
sure.
O
A
O
O
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
the
sale
of
that
property
we're
just
we're
getting
it
approved.
O
Now,
as
it's
part
of
this
larger
project,
the
goal
of
this
project
obviously
is
to
activate
Clinton
Street,
not
create
yet
another
parking
lot,
but
we
know
that
housing
products
at
the
scale
do
require
parking,
so
we're
trying
to
get
creative
on
how
we
provide
that
parking
without
having
a
negative
impact
on
you
know,
creating
just
a
large-scale
parking
lot
next
to
a
street,
so
nines
Lawson
is
located
kind
of
behind
the
parcel
kitty
corner
to
owned
by
the
city
of
Binghamton.
O
We
anticipate
that
that
parcel
also
has
some
environmental
issues
and
so
either
clean
up,
or
in
this
case
likely
capping
of
the
site
as
a
parking
lot
will
help
us
remediate
some
of
that
as
well.
So
we
won't
necessarily
execute
that
sale
at
this
time,
as
we
want
to
advance
this
project
a
little
bit
farther
before
we
do
that,
but
because
we
were
bringing
the
the
large-scale
allocation
we
wanted
to
make
sure
you
were
aware
of
all
the
pieces
of
this
product.
That
city
is
working
on
at
this
time.
E
Right
I
forgot
to
ask
you
this
Sarah
yum
I
know
we
did
we
received
a
draft
and
some
legislation
back
some
time
ago
about
the
Restore
New
York
submission.
Are
you
able
to
update
us
on
the
specific
numbers
you
mentioned
that
you
couldn't
recall,
can
you
once
we
get
back
I,
don't
know
if
we
received
the
final
submission.
Do
you
know
what
the
final
submission
for
ReStore
New
York
yeah,
when
you
said
we
had
specific
numbers
in
our
application
that
outlined
yes,
I
can.
E
O
H
B
A
B
This
time
we
have
rl's
23,
192
and
194.,
ask
Megan
Hyman
from
the
mayor's
office.
Please
join
us.
B
Sorry
about
that
RL
192,
23
192
returning
Brownfield
funding.
K
Yep
so
back
in
2016,
Broome
County
passed
a
local
law
to
essentially
cover
the
cost
of
pre-demolation
work
for
municipalities.
K
B
Thank
you
Megan
any
discussion
seeing
none
23
194,
please.
K
Okay,
194
business
part
of
Governor,
hokel's
or
I
should
say
this
is
tied
to
Governor
hokel's
executive
order
dating
back
to
July
of
this
year,
establishing
a
pro-housing
community
program
that
essentially
rewards
local
governments
working
to
address
the
Statewide
housing
crisis
by
giving
them
the
ability
to
achieve
a
pro-community,
pro-housing
community
designation
localities
that
go
after
and
Achieve.
That
designation
will
receive
priority
in
certain
funding
applications
to
the
state,
as
laid
out
in
this
program
set
by
the
executive
order.
K
K
I
K
That
what
you
said
yep,
so
this
is
part
of
back
in
July
Governor
hokel
had
an
executive
order
for
pro
housing
communities.
Part
of
that
was
setting
up
this
framework
where
municipalities
could
achieve
Pro
housing,
community
designation,
and
that
designation
is
what
would
give
the
city
priority
in
applications
for
funding
for
housing.
The
dri
was
included
in
there
and
the
the
resolution
that
we're
asking
Council
to
consider
tonight
is
One
Step
that
we
would
need
to
achieve
that
designation.
I
I
Gave
me
pause
well,
let
me
before
I
ask
that
does
this
have
to
be
passed
word
for
word.
I
I
K
This
is
the
non-binding
resolution,
so
it's
just
a
step
that
the
that
the
state
is
asking
us
to
take
to
show
that
the
city
has
a
commitment
to
affordable
housing
and
being
designated
as
this
prohousing
community
right.
Yeah.
I
I
Most
of
this
is
about
affordable
housing,
and
it's
about
you
know
like
a
rising
tide,
lifts
all
boats,
kind
of
mentality,
but
the
all
kinds
of
Housing
Development.
Just
you
know,
especially
it's
the
same
kind
of
caution
that
I
approached.
You
know
the
the
previous
legislation
right
where
it's
like
it
says,
affordable,
but
then
what?
What
does
that
actually
mean?
What
percentage
is
that?
Actually
so
I
mean
I'd
like
to
think
that
Binghamton
is
a
pro-housing
community,
but
we've
we've
got
to
write
some
checks
that
are
tushies
can
cash.
You
know.
K
Yeah,
so
if
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
familiar
with
or
have
seen,
the
executive
order
from
the
governor's
office
back
in
July
on
this,
if
you
haven't
I,
would
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
it.
It's
this
is
my
understanding
of
this
is
this
is
geared
toward
communities
like
Binghamton,
who
are
interested
in
tackling
the
housing
crisis.
K
For
us
we
know
that
means
affordable
housing.
It
means
a
lot
of
different
kind
of
housing,
but
it
certainly
means
affordable
housing
and
that's
what
mayor
cram
is
committed
to
this.
This
resolution
is
just
as
I
said,
one
step
in
this
process,
but
it's
an
important
one
and
you
know
one
one.
We
feel
we
want
to
get
this
done
quickly,
so
we
can
kind
of
set
Binghamton
out
in
the
state,
as
as
a
pro
house
and
Community
model,.
L
L
K
Do
you
have
that
checklist,
so
there
was
actually
maybe
I.
Have
it
right
in
front
of
me.
K
It's
fun
right:
okay,
yeah,
so
right
on
the
this
is
just
the
overview
on
the
governor's
office
website.
So
there's
a
section
in
here
and
submission
requirements,
we're
looking
at
the
option
two.
K
K
K
Yes,
we
would
appreciate
that,
so
this
was
open
to
municipalities
across
the
state.
This
is
the
a
resolution
that
we
would
have
expedited
and
had
there
not
been
a
holiday
this
yesterday,
which
kind
of
messed
up
the
noticing
for
this.
Otherwise
we
would
have
asked
Council
to
consider
it
at
tomorrow's
business
meeting.
We
would
like
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible.
L
A
K
The
one
thing
that
we
had
considered
is
since
city
council
will
be
convening
for
the
sewage
treatment
plant
meeting
on.
B
Thursday
yeah
I
was
just
about
to
say:
can
we
it
I
mean
because
that's
actually
going
to
be
here
a
lot,
unlike
in
other
years,
past
I
think
we're
on
board
on
Thursday.
What
is
it
I
think
it's
6
30
p.m.
B
I'm
I'm
not
opposed
to
a
special
business
meeting
to
consider
this
on
that
day,
maybe
6
15
or
6
20,
or
something
like
that.
Councilman
O'reilly
I
apologize.
Yes,.
E
I,
thank
you
for
that.
We
also
have
some
dates
on
the
calendar
that
we
need
to
also
verify
what
we're
using
towards
the
end
of
the
month
for
our
own
budget.
You
know
we
had
them
in
yellow
or
so
to
discuss
later,
just
at
the
holding,
but
I
digress.
K
K
And
then
a
handful
of
items
that
our
planning
department
is
already
working
on
and
Associates
the
zoning
map
file,
zoning
code
summary
and
then
housing,
Planning
and
Building
Permit
information
from
the
the
prior
five
years,
2018
to
2022..
So
the.
E
K
No
I
would
say
I
I,
absolutely
agree
with
you.
Our
city
staff
has
been
in
Communications
with
the
governor's
office
about
this,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
sort
of
compiling
the
right
information
that
they're
looking
for
we're.
Checking
all
the
boxes
and
our
planning
department
is,
is
working
to
pull
that
information
together
and
we're
going
back
and
forth
with
them
now
to
make
sure
it's
what
they
they're.
Looking
for.
E
And
I
also
clarify
yes,
council
is
reviewing
and
approving
a
resolution,
but
we're
also
literally
saying
that
we
have
what
we
need
to
be
a
competitive
candidate
in
this.
This
designation
that
is
also
tied
to
funding
Okay.
So
there
are
potential
funding
dollars
associated
with
this
designation
right.
K
Yes,
we
believe
that
it
would.
The
hope
is
that
it
would
expedite
our
access
to
funding
for
housing
projects
and
other
projects
like
the
dri
other
applications
like
the
dri,
no
I.
E
Didn't
read
this
entirely,
but
does
it
talk
about
our
plans
moving
forward
as
well?
I
know
we're
talking
about
past
five
years,
but
does
it
ask
for
a
projection
of
where
we
intend
to
go
to
show
our
support
for
increasing
housing
availability?
The
resolution
does
yeah
I
know
I
mean
for
this
for
the
guidance
document
that
the
governor
had
in
the
for
our
submission.
Are
they
also
asking
a
projection.
K
No,
so
they
are
asking
for
the
existing
zoning
and
permitting
information
and
then
I.
The
resolution
that
we're
asking
Council
to
consider
is
essentially
a
pledge
saying
that
you
know
we
are
affirming
that
we
are
a
pro
housing
community
and
that
resolution
outlines
some
different
steps
that
right.
E
But
it's
non-binding!
So
that's
why
I
wanted
to
know
because
I'm
sure
you're
familiar
with
this
submission
in
depth
and
I
again
I'm
saying
for
this
body
since
we're
not
were
there
other
pieces
that
are
essential
to
ensuring
our
packet
is
complete,
because
if
there
were
a
play
outside
of
a
pledge,
a
proposed
or
projection
of
what
we
intend
to
do
in
the
next
five
years.
I
would
have
liked
to
review
that,
seeing
that
outside
of
the
resolution,
we're
also
committing
to
this
vision
for
Binghamton
for
the
next
five
years.
A
A
I
Would
prefer
not
that
time
there
is
a
Northside
Assembly
meeting
that
I've
been
promoting
and
I
was
hoping
to
go
there
at
least
for
20
minutes.
So
if
possible,
I
would
prefer
a
different
time.
L
A
K
E
B
All
right,
so,
if
everybody's
on
board,
with
that
Madam
clerk,
we
see
about
putting
a
press
press
release
forward
for
Thursday
6
25
p.m.
Here
special
business
meeting
in
consideration
of
the
non-binding
resolution
associated
with
RL
23-194.
I
Just
have
one
thing:
I
can't
believe
that
I
didn't
notice
this
before,
but
one
of
our
budget
meetings
is
scheduled
on
Yom
Kippur,
which
is
Monday
September
25th
I
was
just
looking
at
the
calendar
because
of
scheduling
and.
I
I
I
know
that
we
voted
to
approve
the
calendar.
I,
don't
usually
I
check
for
this
and
I,
don't
know
what
how
it
slipped
under
the
radar,
but
if
we
could
change
that
meeting
if
that's
possible,
that
would
be
much
appreciated,
just
as
we
would
not
schedule
a
meeting
on
December
25th
I.
Don't
think
we
should
have
a
meeting
on
you
know
so.
B
B
From
a
logistical
perspective,
we
have
less
flexibility
in
changing
that
now
than
we
did
in
years
past,
because
now
we've
codified
the
budget
days
in
the
calendar.
So
we
actually
have
to
amend
that
if
we're
gonna,
which
again
I
am
in
full
support
of,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
amend
that
actual
because
that's
been
published
since
January
1.
H
I
H
B
Anything
else,
okay,
lastly,
for
this
evening,
so
I
wanted
to
just
pick
up
on
and
I
appreciate
all
your
patience,
I
think
I
followed
up
with
several
emails
outside
of
the
one
in
relation
to
the
video
that
I
distributed,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
got
my
ducks
in
a
row.
So
allergies
I'm,
sorry
so
anyway,
for
those
of
you
who
got
a
chance
to
review
the
the
video
the
Planning
Commission
meeting
that
I
had
sent
out
a
little
while
back.
B
A
number
of
the
Commissioners
had
clearly
stated
that
there
were
just
concerns
about
the
city
council
as
the
regulating
body
of
what
it
is
that
the
Planning
Commission
reviews
kind
of
take
a
more
in-depth
look
at
what
those
things
actually
are.
So
as
it
relates.
F
B
An
extension
of
that
I
think,
given
the
dri
and
the
Clinton
Street
initiative
plan,
in
particular
with
the
two
requests
for
legislation
regarding
the
affordable
housing
that
is
being
proposed
at
187,
Clinton,
Street
I
think
this
is
a
good
opportune
time,
given
the
fact
that
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
positive
impactful
proposals
as
it
relates
to
the
broader
clinistry
Corridor.
B
Given
that
plan
that
we,
this
would
be
a
very
good
opportunity
to
review
what
all
permissible
uses
are
in
that
area
and
so
I
think
a
good
I
think
a
good
first
step,
maybe
might
be
to
Council
I,
should
actually
say
Madam
chair
resinetti
of
the
planning
of
the
City
Council
planning
meeting
planning
meeting.
Oh
my
goodness,
planning
Planning
Group
to
potentially
maybe
look
at
this.
So
I
just
wanted
to
Circle
this
back
around
and
just
gauge
everyone's
input.
L
Yeah
so
I've
been
maybe
taking
a
look
at
that,
revealing
all
that
and
coming
together
and
if
we
feel
necessary
to
have
a
meeting
as
a
planning,
so
maybe
more
than
happy
to
step
or
something.
At
that
point
you.