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From YouTube: 2022.02.22 City Council Work Session
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01:11:26 Discussion - Code
B
C
C
D
G
B
B
H
B
J
B
F
J
Yeah,
so
so
the
senior
crime
analyst
position
that
we
have
since
my
time
on
the
job.
The
salary
has
been
the
same
and
analysts
now
throughout
new
york
state,
our
tier
two
analysts,
our
lead
analysts
are
they're
making
about
eighty
eight
thousand
dollars
a
year
now
and
so
her
salary
currently
is
at
like
66
and
change.
I
don't
have
the
exact
figure,
so
it
was
just
an
increase
to
bump
her
up
a
little
bit
and
get
her
closer
to
what
is
around
the
state
and
then,
like.
B
A
B
L
L
I
know
in
the
packet
of
things
included
is
several
letters
memo
from
a
chief
gardener,
as
well
as
from
the
fire
union
kind
of
came
to
be,
as
we
were
looking
at.
I
think
I've
just
discussed
with
many
folks
on
council
regarding
the
city's
efforts
to
pause
the
planned
development
at
columbus
park
as
it
relates
to
the
community
center
based
on
what
the
bids
came
back
in.
L
So
at
the
same
time
that
the
decisions
were
being
made
regarding
columbus
park
in
the
the
community
center
and
those
bids
came
in
chief
garner
came
to
me
with
a
very
specific
ask
regarding
the
fire
department,
and
that
was
the
immediate
need
to
purchase
a
new
rescue
pumper
for
the
fire
department,
I'll.
Let
chief
gardner
get
into
the
details
of
what
the
capabilities
are
of
that,
how
it
services
the
fire
department-
and
you
know
what
it
would
mean
for
the
fire
department
to
to
secure
this.
L
In
addition
to
the
high
expense,
it
could
be
a
one
to
two
year:
lead
tr,
lead
time
to
get
that
product
if
you're
building
it
from
the
ground
up
with
demo
units.
This
is
something
that
could
be
available
as
quickly
as
a
city
council
can
approve
the
funding
so
I'll
leave
it
to
chief
garner
to
go
over.
You
know
maybe
some
of
the
specifics
and
then,
if
he's
available
to
answer
any
questions-
and
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight,.
A
Thanks
for
having
us
tonight,
this
truck
is
known
as
squad
21
and
it's
it's
housed
at
our
headquarters
and
it's
one
of
our
initial
front
line
vehicles.
It's
it's!
It's
very
versatile.
It's
a
rescue,
pumper!
It
can
be
used
to
attack
fires
that
has
hose
lines
on
it.
It's
also
equipped
with
a
lot
of
technical
rescue
equipment.
You
know
such
as
confined
space
rescue
has
the
jaws
of
life.
A
A
It
has
a
92
800
miles
on
it
and
about
10
000
engine
hours,
so
that's
equivalent
of
about
765
000
service
miles.
So
it's
it's
well
passed
it's
service
like,
and
so
it's
time
to
replace
it,
and
the
mechanic
has
indicated
it's.
It's
shown
symptoms
of
potential,
catastrophic
engine
failure.
So
it's
it's
time
to
replace
it
and
hopefully,
you'll.
Consider
this
and
now
I
said
it's
much
needed
right
now,
this
time.
B
M
A
So
we
use
it
for
a
spare.
You
know
we'll
we'll
keep
it
over
at
fleet
maintenance
and
if,
if
an
engine
needs
service,
companies
can
come
in
and
they'll
they'll
take
that
apparatus
and
just
use
it
temporarily.
You
know
for
a
day
or
two
so,
like
I
said,
it'll
be
it'll,
be
a
spare
apparatus
for
maybe
a
few
years.
G
B
C
Good,
I
had
a
question
for
each
of
you
mayor.
I
didn't
know.
If
maybe
I
could
possibly
start
off
with
you
I
I
know
you
had
mentioned
that
there's
a
sense
of
urgency
with
this,
which
I
would
agree
with.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
maybe
speak
to
any
knowledge
you
have
with
respect
to
that.
Are
there?
Is
there
any
level
of
competition
with
other
municipalities
around
the
state
with
respect
to
the
availability
of
what
we
can
eventually
get?
L
The
chief
has
done
a
good
job
at
citing
this
or
excuse
me
sourcing,
this
specific
one,
and
we
think
that
we're
in
a
great
position
to
be
able
to
to
obtain
it
through
this
through
this
transfer.
Certainly,
if,
if
something
were
to
happen,
where
it
did
not
become
available,
we
would
look
to
source
in
a
demo
unit
as
well,
maybe
outside
of
of
this
specific
company.
L
C
Thank
you
mayor
and
chief.
I
appreciate
the
the
specific
statistics
you
had
given
with
regard
to
the
current
vehicle
being
beyond
its
useful
life.
If
you
will,
I
know
you
had
mentioned
some
things
about
like
mileage
and
stuff
like
that.
Is
there
any
sort
of
translation
with
that
with
respect
to
how
many
months
or
years,
beyond
its
useful
life,
the
current
vehicle
has
or
is?
Rather,
I
should
say.
A
Yeah,
you
know
the
the
formula
they
use
is
the
industry
formula
for
our
mileage.
Is
calculation
state
so,
like
one
hour
of
engine,
run
time
equals
like
70
70
miles
so
usually
when
they
get
to
the
point
where
they're
about
10
years
old
or
have
about
500
000
miles
on
it
they're
about
the
end
of
their
service
life
for
a
front
line
apparatus?
I
L
Think
yeah,
I
think,
in
conversations
with
with
the
comptroller.
I
don't
think
that
that
would
be
a
bad
idea
to
basically
unencumber
as
it
relates
to
maybe
the
arpa
funds
for
the
the
community
center.
We
have
to
go
through
the
formal
process
of
rejecting
all
bids
and
and
that
type
of
thing,
so
the
money
can
only
be
spent
on
that
specific
project.
So
it's
not
like
it
can
be
spent
in
another
way
without
council
approval.
I
L
L
L
L
I
Correct
so
we
will
not
be
responsible
for
any
additional
fundings
in
terms
of
storage,
nope,
okay,
and
I
would
like
to
say
to
the
chief
thank
you
for
providing
the
letters
of
support
from
the
the
union
and
the
fire
department,
the
members
of
the
fire
department
that
helped
greatly.
So
thank
you
for
that
additional
information.
Oh
you're,
very
welcome.
That
concludes
my
questions
and
statements.
F
L
Pg
funding
rolls
over
in
multiple
project
years.
It
operates
the
same
way
that
a
capital
funding
works
in
the
city,
where
it's
likely
on
cdbg
projects
that
it
may
take
multiple
years
to
accomplish
them,
so
you're
also
able
to
budget
for
things
kind
of
moving
forward,
so
any
unspent
money
from
a
previous
year
is
available
in
the
next
year.
L
This
is
also
has
a
lot
to
do
with
our
human
service
programs.
So
if
we
are
contracting
with
an
agency
for
fifteen
thousand
dollars-
and
they
only
spend
fourteen
thousand
three
hundred
in
the
contract
period,
we
can
use
that
money
to
support
human
service
programs
in
the
next
year.
So
it
doesn't
like
with
the
general
fund.
It
rolls
in
fund
balance,
but
with
our
special
grant
funding
it
wouldn't
roll
anywhere
except
for
be
held
in
that
same
account.
L
F
Yeah
there
are
some
things
that
actually
I
mean
this
isn't.
I
don't
need
to
ask
this
right
now,
but
like
a
milwaukee,
junkyard
dog
kit,
I
have
to
admit
I
am
curious
what
that
is,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's,
I
don't
need
to
necessarily
ask
that
right
now,
but,
but
I
am
curious
about
that.
My
last
question
is
so
you've
said
that
this
this
truck
is
long
overdue
for
replacement.
F
It
has
many
it's
over
mileage
and
it
it's
clear
that
this
needs.
This
is
something
that
needs
to
be
done,
and
I'm
just
wondering
it
seems
like
if
this
has
been.
If
this
is
so,
this
truck
is
so
old.
Why
is
it
that
all
of
a
sudden,
it
has
become
apparent
that
this
that
these
parts
need
to
be
replaced
on
the
truck
yeah.
A
You
know
they're
just
they're,
very
expensive,
and
the
mechanic
has
replaced
an
oil
pump
in
there
twice,
which
he
says
is
indicative
of
possibly
a
catastrophic
failure.
So
it
was
just
it's
just
it's
very
old
and
it's
probably
classified
as
an
antique
and
we
we
try
to
use
them
as
long
as
possible
to
save
money.
But
it's
just
it's
getting
to
the
point
where
we're
really
afraid
of
it.
A
Failing
and
it's
actually
happened
on
route
17,
the
the
rig
actually
shut
right
down
just
so
happens
behind
the
rig
was
our
ems
coordinator
and
they
were
able
to
pull
equipment
off
on
the
way
to
a
vehicle
mba
with
entrapment
where
they
needed
the
jaws
of
life.
So
they
were
able
to
get
that
equipment
off,
put
it
in
the
pickup
truck.
So
it's
it's.
So
it's
already
happened,
and
it's
just
it's
just
time.
F
And
I
I
don't
want
that
to
happen,
of
course,
but
I
just
you
know,
I'm
just
surprised
that
this
wouldn't
be
that
this
wouldn't
have
come
up
in
like
the
capital
improvements
line
or
something
like
that.
You
know
what
I
mean
it
just
seems
like
this
is
all
of
a
sudden
and
I'm
not
against
moving
money
around.
Obviously,
when
money
becomes
available,
it
ought
to
be
used.
F
You
know,
I
just
wonder
like
how
how
you
know.
Maybe
I
can
rephrase
my
question
like
how
might
we
prevent
things
like
this
from
happening
in
the
future
when
we're
sort
of
we're
at
a
precipice
where,
if
we
didn't
have
this
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
just
got
freed
up,
you
know
there
might
be
a
catastrophic
failure.
L
F
L
That's
include
in
budget,
your
annual
budgets
and
it's
part
of
the
capital
expenditures
that
being
recall
the
history
with
a
chief
gardener.
You
took
the
oath
of
office
as
chief
about
five
days
before
the
finalization
of
the
budget
in
that
transition
period
between
chief
eggleston
and
acting
chief
gardner.
This
was
one
of
the
areas
that
was
not
completely.
The
loop
was
not
closed
on,
which
would
not
happen
this
year
with
having
to
learn
the
budget
process
in
about
48
hours.
So.
N
L
F
Okay,
that
would
be
great
yeah,
because,
even
though
you
know
I'll
just
as
a
last
comment
that
the
the
rec
center
was
initially
announced
in
response
to
the
murder
of
george
floyd,
as
you
know,
we're
investing
a
huge
amount
of
money
in
our
youth
and
so
again
I'm
not
against
reallocating
money.
But
I
do
just
want
to
put
a
flag
in
there
that
this
is
now
money
that
has
not
yet
been
spent
in
order
to
improve
the
the
lives
of
you
know,
people
in
that
district.
F
M
L
Yeah,
I
I
wanted
to
kind
of
make
mention.
I
know
we
have
eddie
news
here
from
the
board
as
well
as
charlie
pearsall,
presenting
at
some
point,
obviously
they're
involved
in
the
the
plant,
but
really
neither
one
of
them
are
in
a
kind
of
a
position
to
answer
more
detailed
questions
which
I'm
sure
everyone
has.
L
I
don't
have
additional
a
lot
of
additional
details.
It's
still
under
investigation
in
terms
of
causality,
and
I
just
didn't
want
you
know,
council,
to
think
that
either
charlie
or
ed
who's
here
tonight
was
dodging
questions.
You
know
they're
still
trying
to
figure
out,
along
with
the
plan,
employees
kind
of
exactly
what
happened.
There's
a
lot
of
contractors
involved
insurance.
L
Folks,
attorneys,
as
you
can
imagine
so
they're
they're
here,
to
kind
of
work
through
their
rls
that
they
need
to
work
through,
and
I
want
council
to
get
an
update
as
quickly
as
possible
from
the
plant
staff,
which
is
also
vetting
exactly
how
to
recover
and
get
everything
up
and
running
again.
That
is
their
ultimate
goal.
Of
course,.
K
L
Correct
yeah-
and
I
think
it's
important
too,
that
you
know
I
was
able
to
provide
a
council
kind
of
a
point
in
time.
Hey.
This
is
what
my
understanding
of
of
what
happened
was,
but
I
don't
want
to
give
an
opinion
or
my
gut
reaction,
that
type
of
thing
we'll
leave
that
to
professionals,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
investigation
that
has
to
happen
before
there
are
concrete
answers
in
terms
of
what
took
place.
What
was
the
timeline
leading
up
to
that?
L
L
B
O
O
The
first
one
we're
asking
for
an
increase
in
the
appropriations
for
chemicals
for
fifty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
an
increase
in
sludge
and
waste
disposal
by
twenty
five
thousand
dollars,
an
increase
in
water
for
seventy
two
hundred
dollars,
which
is
a
total
of
eighty
nine
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars.
If
it
has
to
be
taken
from
the
contingency
line.
F
O
Second,
one
is
a
similar
it's
for
less
amounts.
It's
the
gas
and
diesel
line.
We
would
ask
to
increase
for
30,
200
equipment
and
pump
repair
for
eight
hundred
dollars
and
equipment
and
pump
repair
electrical
for
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
with
the
total
of
nine
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
to
be
transferred
out
of
the
line
to
reimburse
city
local
systems
cost.
O
The
third
one
relates
specifically
to
legal
services
for
the
bath.
These
are
not
at
all
related
to
the
current
incident,
but
we
had
asked
for
information
prior
to
the
budget
process
and
unfortunately,
it
was
not
provided
until
after
the
budget
had
been
submitted
at
which
time
hinckley,
allen
and
schneider
sent
us
a
very
large
estimate.
O
O
C
C
H
C
B
O
And
the
last
one
this
is
earlier.
This
year
we
had
asked
for
some
operator
1
training
positions
to
be
created,
funded
from
defunding
higher
level
positions.
One
of
them
was
missed
in
the
legislation
itself
was
part
of
the
request.
Detail,
obviously
an
easy
error
to
make.
But
what
we
are
asking
for
is
an
operator
one
position
to
be
increased
in
the
budget
and
to
defund
one
operator
three
line.
C
Councilman
scringey.
Thank
you,
mr
president,
in
following
up
with
the
discussion
from
the
mayor
and
the
sewage
treatment
plant.
Obviously,
without
just
getting
into
any
specifics,
which
I
know
we
can't
right
now,
is
there
any
way
from
ed
and
or
charlie.
We
can
at
least
get
if
they're
able
to,
of
course
give
us
any
sort
of
confirmation
that
everything
is
up
and
running
right
now
everything
is
moved.
The
situation
has
moved
past
what
occurred,
and
at
least
everything
is
functioning
to
the
best
that
it
can.
B
E
C
Mr
president,
if
that
was
the
microphone
that
the
mayor
was
speaking
in
earlier,
it
it
cut
out
one
or
two
times.
While
the
mayor
was
speaking,
but
it
came
back
pretty
quick,
I
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
ed
is
not
ill
positioned
to
the
microphone.
I
think
it
might
be
something
wrong
with
the
microphone
itself.
B
M
What
I'm
reporting
to
you
is
that,
because
the
bafcn
cell
gallery
is
below
ground
level
and
was
flooded,
and
it's
not
just
flooded
with
wastewater,
but
there's
also
the
filtration
media
and
the
cell
that
escaped
into
the
gallery
cell
cn1
access
is
a
problem.
While
they've
been
able
to
de-water
the
area,
they
still
have
this
media
that
that
needs
to
be
removed,
and
so
it's
not
possible
to
get
a
good
look
at
some
of
the
area
the
entire
sienn
salgare
had
to
be.
M
You
know,
de-energized
for
safety
purposes
and
they're
working
on
it.
This
is
not
something
that's
going
to
be
remedied
right
away.
In
the
meantime,
the
plant
is
operating
with
primary
treatment,
which
is
the
bar
screening
and
the
settling
tanks
and
ultraviolet
disinfection,
which
is
similar
to
the
profile
the
plant
was
operated
in
during
the
construction.
N
22.59
is
just
a
resolution
to
update
our
previous
resolutions
from
2007
and
2010.
I'm
just
updating
the
language
on
the
city
parks
being
smoke-free
with
the
new,
with
cannabis
being
legal
in
the
state.
Now
any
has
told
any
area
that
is
desert
public
area
that
designated
smoke
free
would
also
be
cannabis
free.
So
this
is
just
to
update
our
information,
so
we're
clear
and
concise
about
it.
N
F
N
K
I
I
N
Q
Yeah
this
is
sharon.
One
of
the
things
that
we're
required
to
do
before,
obviously
penalizing
or
citing
people
for
violating
provisions
of
our
code
is
provide
them
with
notice
of
what
in
fact,
they're
violating
so
right
now,
while
the
mrta
that's
the
marijuana
regulation,
taxation
act
provides
that
use
of
cannabis
is
prohibited
in
areas
in
which
tobacco
is
prohibited.
Q
That's
kind
of
buried
in
the
mrta
right,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
citizens
are
aware
of
what
that
regulation
is
such
that
if
they
are
cited
for
engaging
in
that
behavior,
you
know
they
do
say.
Ignorance
is
no
defense
to
the
law,
but
nonetheless,
I
I
do
veer
on
the
side
of
due
process
and
notice.
So
corporation
council
does
support
this
change
because
I
think
it
lends
to
transparency
in
the
area.
Q
I
Q
Just
well,
I
think,
from
a
resolution
point
of
view
versus
a
punitive
point
of
view.
Those
are
two
different
things
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
this
administration
is
doing
is
saying
we're
not
going
to
engage
in
a
punitive
punitive
action
on
on
this
end,
that's
for
the
state
to
do
not
for
us
to
do
right.
So,
what's
coming
before,
you
is
not
in
fact
a
punitive
piece
of
legislation
under
the
city
code.
Q
Q
Right
does
not
eliminate
the
fact
that
new
york
state
says
it's
prohibited
right,
so
codification
of
it
on
a
local
level
is
common
and
the
fact
that
the
city
is
going
kind
of
the
extra
step
and
and
doing
it
by
resolution
as
opposed
to
punitive
criminal
piece
of
legislation,
even
though
it
would
be
quasi
crim.
A
lot
of
cities
are
adopting
fines
right.
This
administration
is
not
adopting
fines
and
and
the
kind
of
other
punitive
measures
which
I
think
is
kinder,
and
it
while
it
creates
a
deterrent
effect,
you
know,
is,
is
less
retributive.
R
R
I
Okay-
and
I
like
thank
you
for
adding
that
information,
as
you
know,
I'm
on
the
tobacco
free
committee.
So,
but
I
just
wanted
to
know
again,
because
I
do
want
to
be
certain
that
we
represent
everyone
in
our
versus
our
our
various
districts,
that
when
you
outline
certain
things,
it
seems
as
if
you're
targeting
a
population-
and
we
want
to
be
mindful
whenever
we
draft
resolutions,
legislation
that
we
are
able
to
stand
on,
why
we
are
specifically
outlining
certain
delivery
systems.
And
what
have
you
and
not
being
exhaustive
in
this
list?
Q
N
B
S
Good
evening
I
am
requesting
an
increase
to
my
storekeeper
salary.
It
is
currently
vacant
and
budgeted
at
70
per
the
contract.
I
have
an
internal
applicant
who
is
interested
in
the
position
and
he
is
at
90
so
by
contract.
I
have
to
bring
him
in
at
90
percent
and
that
results
in
an
increase
of
7516
dollars
to
that
line.
B
F
D
T
Sorry
about
that
so
every
year,
when
we
fund
cdbg
programs-
generally
that's
done
in
december-
and
then
after
that,
there's
a
process
for
the
various
projects
and
I'm
talking
specifically
about
projects
with
agencies.
So
in
this
specific
instance,
it's
first
word
action.
Council
now
last
year
was
a
little
crazy
because
we
had
a
contract
with
them
in
march,
but
then
or
we
started
the
contract
with
them
in
march,
and
then
hud
found
findings
with
our
environmental
review
process.
T
So
we
had
to
redo
it
and
it
dragged
it
out
until
I
want
to
say
june
before
first
forward
was
finally
able
to
have
a
final
contract
and
get
the
program
running.
They
still
have
money
from
last
year
about
eight
thousand
dollars.
So
the
reason
I'm
giving
you
the
background
is
going
on
with
what's
going
on
this
year,
so
this
year
we're
trying
to
implement
this
change
to
the
environmental
review
process.
T
Currently,
it's
at
the
state,
historic
preservation,
office
level,
but
due
to
the
nature
of
what
hud
said,
our
updated
process
was
going
to
have
to
be
even
once
we
get
that
we're
still
looking
at
approximately
another
30
days
for
public
review,
followed
by
a
period
of
time
for
hud
to
approve
the
project.
Even
though
it's
exactly
the
same
as
last
year,
we
have
to
do
one
every
year,
so
that
means
that
first
ward
is
probably
not
going
to
be
able
to
start
until
maybe
april
or
even
may.
T
T
The
only
stipulation
to
first
ward
with
this
change
is
that
they
can't
help
anyone
they
helped
last
year,
because
it's
still
the
same
contract.
However,
once
the
new
contract
gets
kicked
in
they'll
be
able
to
help
anyone
that
they
had
to
put
on
pause.
So
this
is
a
way
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
allow
first
ward
to
help
seniors
with
the
minor
home
repairs
that
the
senior
home
repair
program
allows,
while
waiting
for
the
the
environmental
review
process
for
the
the
full
20
2022
contract
to
be
finalized.
T
I
T
T
The
reason
it's
august
is
not
related
to
this,
but
in
order
to
do
the
new
contract
we're
waiting
on
this
hud-mandated
environmental
review
process
and,
unfortunately,
it's
being
delayed,
so
one
idea
we
had
was
to
extend
that
contract
from
last
year
to
not
end
on
december
31st,
but
to
extend
it
to
june
of
this
year
and
that
should
allow
them
to
continue
to
help
people
they
did
not
assist.
Last
year.
I
T
I
T
I
hate
to
use
the
term
return
to
us
because
it's
a
reimbursable
basis
and
it
sounds
kind
of
funny
when
you
say
return
to
us,
but
yeah
they
did
not
use
set.
They
still
had
seven
thousand
dollars
left
on
the
table
and
this
will
allow
them
to
continue
to
assist
people
so
basically
just
extending
the
contract
here.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted.
B
T
This
is
the
first
word
action
council
senior
home
repair
program.
What
we
do
is
first
word:
action:
counsel
gets
calls
from
seniors
in
the
community,
they
must
be
income
verified,
which
they
do.
It's
there's
a
lot
of
weird
technical
stuff,
but
basically
what
happens
is
when
someone
calls
they
they,
the
the
person
at
first
forward,
feels
about
the
application
sends
it
to
me.
I
have
to
do
the
weird
things
I
got
to
do
on
my
end.
T
If
I'm
going
to
approve
it,
I
do
have
to
deny
sometimes
but
most
of
the
time
they're
approved
and
then
first
word
action
council
will
go
out
and
do
the
repairs.
Now
most
of
these
repairs
are
very
minor.
They
can
be
things
like
changing
a
door
door
knob
and
lock.
It
can
involve
fixing
a
minor
plumbing
issue.
That's
what
most
of
these
are.
However,
we
expanded
on
them
two
years
ago.
T
I
believe
where
we
started,
allowing
them
to
sort
of
do
a
few
larger
projects,
and
this
involves
like
ramp
installations
and
things
like
that.
Nothing
major's
done
most
of
the
stuff.
That
happens.
Is
that
honestly,
last
year,
a
lot
of
step
and
railing
fixes,
but
they
don't
do
anything
major.
They
don't
do
roof
repairs,
they
don't
do
a
whole
window
replacement.
These
are
generally
just
minor
replacements
which
seniors
living
in
the
community.
C
B
P
M
F
P
F
The
initial
bond
was
eight
eight
million
five
hundred
eighty
four
thousand
three
hundred
dollars,
which
came
from
that's
right
in
the
first
paragraph,
so
the
new
bond
is
nine
million
nine
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
and
when
you
subtract
those
two
it's
425
000,
but
why
is
why?
Are
we
increasing
it
by
that
amount?
Where
does
that
number
come
from.
P
F
F
P
F
D
P
P
F
P
F
F
F
B
P
2260,
I
don't
think
we
really
after
having
a
discussion
with
lee
today.
I
don't
really
think
we
need
legislation,
but
what
I
do
need
to
do
is
back.
In
december,
you
passed
some
legislation,
letting
the
mayor
adjust
the
ima
with
the
town
of
vesta,
whereas
the
town
of
vestal
was
going
to
build
this
sewer
plant
directly
and
not
the
city,
and
we
made
some
other
arrangements.
P
P
If
that
office
was
up
on
434
or
something
of
that
nature,
so
this
is
what
we
ended
up
settling
on.
It's
really
no
change
to
what
we
talked
about
in
the
past
on
any
any
other
criteria,
except
for
this,
and
the
original
rl
or
legislation
that
was
passed
was
just
allow
the
mayor
to
enter
into
the
agreement.
So
we
could
use
that
same
agreement.
We
have
not
signed
a
contract.
I
have
it
sitting
here
at
my
desk,
but
I
thought
it
was
appropriate
that
I
explained
to
you
the
changes
to
it.
H
Okay,
so
every
year
the
rumble
ponies
they
submit
an
application
for
fireworks
for
their
season.
This
is
pretty
standard
from
what
they've
submitted
in
the
past
and
I
will
say,
they're
in
the
letter
they
submitted.
I
think
it's
on
page
two
of
this
rl
page
53,
the
packet.
It
does
say
the
rumble,
ponies,
respect
and
adhere
to
the
ordinance
deadlines
for
starting
a
firework
show,
which
is
9,
45
p.m,
on
weeknights
at
10,
45
p.m,
on
friday,
saturdays
and
holidays.
N
H
B
Okay,
moving
on,
I
just
want
to
give
a
little
background
here
to
the
next
point,
and
then
we
will.
We
will
get
into
it.
What
what
this
is
is
I
decided
not
to
have
a
separate.
We
talked.
We've
talked
for
quite
a
while.
Last
year
we
talked,
I
think,
councilman
burns
and
the
future
mayor
at
the
time
cram
had
a
good
conversation
during
the
campaign
about
code
issues,
and
I
talked
early
in
january
about
continuing
this
conversation
and
moving
it
forward.
B
So
that's
what
I
want
to
do
briefly
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
is
so
councilman
scringey,
and
I
probably
four
or
five
weeks
ago,
met
with
the
mayor
and
megan
just
to
see
where
they
were
at
with
this
stuff.
So
we
can
continue
this
conversation
and
move
things
forward,
and
so
I
just
felt
rather
that
have
a
separate
just
trying.
B
B
I
have
councilman
scringey,
give
us
an
update
from
what
we
heard
in
in
that
conversation,
so
everybody
can
hear
what
and
we're
hoping
that
we're
gonna
start
seeing
legislation
next
month
on
code
issues
of
things
that
we
can
do.
So
we
really
wanted
to
move
the
ball
quickly
with
things
that
hopefully,
we
agree
on
and
also
continue
the
conversation,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
have
hopes
and
dreams
and
things
that
might
take
a
little
longer.
So
we'll
continue
this
conversation.
This
won't
be
the
end
of
it.
C
Thank
you,
president.
Mr
president,
good
evening,
colleagues,
as
we
know,
ways
to
revamp
and
update
our
local
code
ordinances
to
more
robustly
deal
with
many
of
the
issues
that
we
currently
face.
Some
examples:
grass
garbage
noise
issues,
animal
issues,
property
issues-
have
really
plagued
many
neighborhoods
throughout
binghamton.
For
far
too
long.
C
That
being
said,
I
had
a
chance
to
have
a
conversation
with
council
president,
as
well
as
the
mayor
and
the
mayor's
office.
As
council
president
said,
we
met
about
a
little
over
a
month
ago,
and
we
had
a
meeting
for
the
purpose
of
really
trying
to
lay
the
groundwork
to
move
the
ball
rolling.
On
this,
I
communicated
specifically
to
the
mayor
our
prior
discussions
that
we've
had,
as
it
relates
to
code
issues.
C
More
specifically,
issues
that
we
have
each
over
the
last
few
months
have
brought
to
the
table
that
we
are
observing
in
our
respective
districts
that
we
represent
issues
that
we
have
received
either
communications
from
constituents
from
or
communications
from,
constituents
that
have
been
spoken
about
during
public
comment
at
meetings.
The
mayor
was
obviously
very
aware
of
those
specifics
and
was
very
supportive
as
it
related
to
that,
and
so
my
idea
about
approaching
this
with
respect
to
meetings
was
inherently
that,
quite
frankly,
we
need
to
get
this
done.
C
C
So
that
being
said
as
council
president
kind
of
alluded
to
a
little
earlier,
the
idea
was
that
essentially,
this
is
so
important
instead
of
having
a
committee
meeting.
What
I'd
like
to
bring
forward
as
chair
of
the
mpa
committee
to
the
mayor
is
a
package
of
proposals
that
we
collectively
support,
and
I
spoke
to
the
mayor
about
that,
and
he
was
very
supportive
of
that
idea.
C
If
you
will,
they
probably
will
come
down
in
layers,
which
I
think
is
good
for
us,
because
we
can
debate
them
in
smaller
chunks,
which
allows
us
to
have
more
robust
discussion
and
kind
of
work
through
the
logistics
and
what
I
asked
council
president
was
instead
of
having
a
mpa
committee
meeting
if
we
could
essentially
meet
as
a
committee
of
the
whole,
all
seven
of
us
and
actually
take
time
during
work
sessions
to
actually
discuss
this.
And
so
what
I
wanted
to
throw
out
to
everyone
was
obviously
this
will
not
be
the
end.
C
But
this
is
a
first
big
step
and
to
try
to
expedite
this
as
quickly
and
efficiently
as
we
possibly
can.
If
there
are
any
outstanding
questions
or
concerns
or
anything
even
for
you
know,
albeit
department,
heads
or
people
in
city
hall
that
I
can
coordinate
with.
Please
feel
free
to
email
me
those
questions
and
concerns,
and
I
will
work
to
coordinate,
to
get
answers
as
best
as
I
possibly
can
and
get
that
turnaround
time
back
to
everyone.
C
So
we
can
move
this
forward
and
take
care
of
that.
So
that
was
generally
the
idea
and
with
that
being
said,
you
know,
mr
president,
this
is
your
floor,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
just
take
questions
from
people
or
statements,
but
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
kind
of
write
things
down
or
I
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
do
that
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
do
that
as
well.
I
just
didn't
want
to
overstep.
That's
president.
B
No,
that's
fine!
Thank
you,
councilman
secretary,
why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
just
outline
a
couple
things
that
that
we
did
talk
about
there's
a
couple.
You
know
things
that
that
I
think
are
pretty
robust
and
get
the
thoughts
and
feedback
from
everybody
on
those
and
then,
after
that
you
know,
let's,
let's
spend
a
few
minutes
of
any
other
ideas
or
discussions
that,
like
you,
just
said
that
we
could
bring
back
and,
like
I
said,
I
don't
want
to
table
the
to
me.
B
There's
an
immediate
like
this
is
what
this
is,
what
the
mayor's
thinking.
This
is
what
we
think
we
can
come
right
out
of
the
gate
and
then,
but
I
think,
there's
probably
a
second
layer
of
things
that
will
take
more
time
that
might
need
more
research
as
to
whether
they're
possible.
So
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
stop
those
either.
I
want
at
least
but
I
want
to
at
least
say
what
can
we
get
done
now,
so
why
don't
you
give
us
a
quick
update
on
some
of
this
there's?
B
C
As
you
all
very
well
know,
she
has
done
a
superb
job
over
the
years
of
working
with
the
sidelock
program,
when
those
properties
become
available
to
ensure
that
there's
continuity
in
the
neighborhood
that
there
is
a
close,
neighbor
or
property
owner
that
picks
up
that
property.
To
ensure
that
sustainability
continuity
of
the
neighborhood
is
upheld,
she's
come
obviously
down
with
a
number
of
rl's,
and
I
know
she's
worked
on
that
really
hard.
C
So
that
was
one
another
one
dealt
with
resources
for
the
co-department,
whether
that
meant
reviewing
our
local
ordinances,
as
we
have
already
done
in
past
meetings
and
obviously
will
continue
to
do
to
make
sure
that
they
are
up
to
date
and
ensuring
that
our
code
enforcement
officers
have
the
resources
that
they
need.
We
talked
a
lot
about
the
efficiency
of
software
programs
that
they
currently
use,
which
were
updated
in
the
last
administration.
C
They
continue
to
speak
very
positively
of
it.
It
doesn't
require
as
much
input
time
so
it
allows
them
to
actually
be
on
the
ground,
quote,
unquote
and
actually
be
out
there
and
get
that
information
into
the
system
and
aggregate
it.
So
that
way,
that's
obviously
collected
and
the
third
one
is.
I
know
something
that
the
mayor
proposed
with
respect
to
someone
in
court
council
and
in
city
hall
that
specifically
focuses
on
the
housing
issue
and
how
we
can
more
efficiently
expedite
those
cases
through
whatever
proper
channels.
C
It
needs
to
be
whether
it's
code
enforcement,
whether
it's
multiple
properties,
whether
it's
septed,
whether
it's
court
council,
whether
it
gets
to
the
point
that
it
ends
up
in
court
and
potentially
needs
to
be
adjudicated
or
anything
along
those
lines.
So
those
were
kind
of
the
three
broad
discussion
points
that
we
had
first
talked
about
and
obviously
I'd
be
glad
to
take
any
questions
or
any
points
that
any
colleagues
have
or
any
additional
issues
that
they
feel
might
be
relevant
to
this
discussion.
I
Thank
you,
council
president.
Thank
you
for
that
overview.
Councilman
scoring.
I
do
have
some
questions
because,
as
you
know,
this
is
highly
this.
This
issue
is
one
of
my
top
priorities
and
has
been
probably
the
code.
Related
issues
are
what
I
received
the
most
calls
on.
In
fact,
I
think
I've
emailed
chris
three
or
four
times
today.
I
So
in
terms
of
this
new
framework,
we've
developed,
that's
been
presented
with
the
mpa
committee,
taking
the
lead
and
a
series
from
I'm
just
quoting
a
series
of
of
legislation
coming
down
who's,
defining
the
priorities
and
where
these
series
of
legislation
coming
from
is
it
from
the
mayor's
office?
Is
there
a
committee,
that's
meeting
to
discuss
and
prioritize
what?
Where?
How
is
this?
I
C
Yeah,
so
I
I
appreciate
that
councilwoman
riley
and
at
the
expense
of
being
blunt,
we
are
right.
So
the
purpose,
as
I
alluded
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
and
I
think
council
president
also
did
as
well
the
reason
why
I
asked
council
president
and
the
mayor
to
have
this
meeting
was
at
least
for
me
on
the
onset.
It
was
less
to
talk
about
anything
substantive
in
terms
of
issues
but
more
to
communicate.
C
What
you
just
said,
which
is
the
reality
of
it,
is-
and
I
know
the
mayor
knows
this.
I
know
all
seven
of
us
know
this
right,
because
this
is
something
obviously
that
we've
been
discussing
for
a
long
time.
Arguably,
code
related
issues
and
that's
a
very
broad
umbrella
term,
because
the
reality
of
it
is
is
that
sometimes
there
are
issues
that
procedurally
or
logistically
are
actually
not
code
enforcement,
but
we
perceive
them
to
be
a
code-related
issue,
so
they
might
be
intertwined
whatever
it
might
be.
C
But
for
me,
at
least
at
the
heart
of
it
was
to
communicate
a
sense
of
urgency,
which
I
felt
that
everyone
had
in
the
room
as
it
relates
to
the
actual
language.
Obviously,
that
would
entail
everyone
in
court
counsel's
office
to
make
sure
that
it's
meeting
the
robustness
of
law
and
local
ordinance.
But
what
is
driving
this?
The
committee
is
us
and-
and
that's
my
that's
my
lens
and
I
believe,
that's
everyone's
as
well.
B
Let
me
let
let
me
just
mention
real
quick
that
that
was
the
biggest
reason
councilman
riley
is
that
councilwoman
riley
is
that
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
understood
that
it
was
a
priority
for
all
of
us
and,
and
so
the
first
meeting
was
to
say:
where
are
you
where's
the
administration
at
with
this,
to
give
them
a
chance?
Because,
obviously,
as
we
work
together
and
they
come
with
things
and
craft
things,
that's
the
quickest
out
of
the
gate
is
things
that
we
hopefully
will
agree
on
or
things
that
they
are
already
agreeing
on.
B
B
But
the
first
priority
I
think,
is
going
to
be
a
combined
and
then
I
think
the
conversation
moves
from
them
to
us
as
to
what
we
all
can
agree
on
and
then
hopefully-
and
I
know
I
see-
megan
is
least
listed
on
there-
hopefully
she's
listening
and
taking
notes,
then
for
us,
maybe
to
give
ideas
back
to
them
and
say:
hey
we're.
Also
considering
this
this
and
this,
and
just
to
continue
continue
that
conversation.
But
we
felt
for
this
first
one
that
we
would
you
know
we
wouldn't
have
presenters
or
guests
or
anything
else.
B
I
know
megan
saw
with
us
that
we
could
just
have
a
conversation
amongst
ourselves.
I
will
mention
one
more
thing
and
then
you
can
continue,
because
the
tangible
things
are
important.
One
other
thing
that
the
mayor
mentioned
to
us
that
I
think
is
is
extremely
could
be
extremely
productive
from
a
substantive
way
is.
B
For,
because
what
happens
is
somebody
draws
a
permit
for
a
new
roof
and
they
tarp
the
roof,
but
they
don't
have
really
any
intention
of
fixing
it
since
they
have
an
active,
live
permit.
Now,
code
enforcement
issues
stop
because
well
they
do
a
permit
to
fix
it.
They
have
no
intention
of
fixing
it.
So
the
issue
is
if
they
have
outstanding
code
issues,
the
city
is
not
going
to
grant
those
permits,
as
they
have
been
in
the
past.
Now
there'll
be
certain
issues
of
safety.
B
Obviously,
if
it's
a
boiler
in
the
winter
or
things
like
that,
smaller
permits
for
clearly
safety
issues,
but
these
broad
building
permits
for
properties
that
are
already
having
code
issues
now
how
that
actually
plays
out
whether
that's
goes
through
corporate
accounts
or
whatever,
but
there's
a
very
tangible
something
very
tangible.
That's
going
to
come
to
us
to
change,
you
know
the
way
the
city
operates
and
the
way
the
city
authorizes
those
things.
So
I
think
that's
a
very
promising.
B
I
Okay,
so
that
those
are
so,
this
is
what
I'm
saying
you're
presenting
four
priorities
that
came
out
of
a
meeting
with
the
three
of
you,
which
is
great
now
I
think
we've
we've
done
a
lot
of
talking,
but
we've
not
prioritized
the
needs
or
the
requests
of
the
council
right
individually,
nor
collectively.
So
perhaps
so,
I
have
two
questions.
One.
I
Is
this
going
to
be
a
standing
item
on
all
of
our
work
sessions
moving
forward
so
that
we
can
move
forward
in
terms
of
prioritizing
the
collective
asks
for
lack
of
a
better
term
of
the
council
as
it
relates
to
code
enforcement
and
issues
or
changes?
What
have
you?
So
we
have
this
big
list
that
we
work
from
again,
that's
maintained
somewhere
and
we
discuss
and
we
align
with
the
other
departments
in
the
city
and
two.
I
If
we
do
have
this
as
it
does,
everyone
desire
to
have
said
list,
so
our
collective
ideas
are
retained
and
we're
able
to
work
through
them
as
a
body
and
then
work
with
others
to
prioritize
and
and
walk
their
legislation
through.
So
that
was
two
questions
in
one
I'd
like
to
hear
the
thoughts
as
as
you
guys
have
convened
to
kind
of
strategize
and
propose
a
process.
C
C
The
package
that
represents
city
council's
concerns
is
not
secondary
in
the
process.
All
right.
The
bullet
points
that
I
previously
mentioned
are
things
that
we've
already
discussed
so
they're,
not
new.
As
you
very
well
know,
right,
we've
we've
talked
about
these
things
already,
so
that's
number
one.
While
I
approached
the
discussion,
as
I
said
earlier,
regarding
or
concerning
what
a
potential
process
is
going
to
look
like
and
to
communicate
a
necessity
for
a
sense
of
urgency
on
this.
C
My
main
concern,
as
the
chair
of
the
mpa
committee,
is
that
there
are
two
co-equal
branches
of
government:
there's
the
legislative
branch
and
the
executive
branch.
The
mayor
has
his
proposals
and
we
in
the
aggregate
will
collectively
have
our
uniform
proposals,
so
we
want
to
take
each
of
those
and
pair
them
together
and
then
work
on
those
collectively
right.
So
number
one
there's
no
said
list
that
we're
already
working
from
right.
The
point
of
these
this
discussion
and
what
I
know
will
be
ongoing
discussions
is
to
actually
create
that
list.
C
That's
the
first
thing
right
and
the
second
thing
to
address
your
second
question.
Where
will
said
list
be
housed?
It
will
be
housed
right
here
and
I
will
email
it
to
everyone
and
I
will
update
it
every
time.
There
are
more
discussions
because,
as
chair
of
the
mpa,
that's
my
responsibility
and
my
obligation
to
ensure
that
everybody's
got
the
same
information.
At
the
same
time,.
I
Thank
you,
and
just
to
clarify
one
of
the
questions
was
about
this
being
a
standing
item
on
the
work
session
agenda
and
then
two
when
I
said
there
is
a
list
council
president
strong
did
say
there
were
four
topics
that
were
on
a
list.
He
did
say
that
which
were
the
bullets
he
wanted
you
to
start
with.
So
that's
the
list
to
which
I'm
referring
so
okay.
B
Q
I
don't
want
to
spend
too
long
tonight,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
president
strong.
This
is
sharon.
So
the
way
the
committee
process
works
and
I
think
councilman
springey
who's
doing
his
best
to
kind
of
explain
this
to
council
as
a
whole
is
certain
issues
are
set
for
committee
jurisdiction
right?
This
is
one
of
the
things
code.
Enforcement
is
one
of
the
things
that
falls
under
the
mpa
committee.
The
committee
meets
regularly
to
discuss
these
issues.
Council
at
any
time,
can
request
a
report
from
the
mpa
committee
on
this
particular
issue.
Q
So,
even
though
the
mpa
committee
tonight,
for
example,
added
this,
the
agenda,
councilman
riley,
can
request
a
report
on
the
mp
from
the
mpa
committee
on
this
issue
at
every
meeting.
Should
she
so
want
to,
and
I
don't
even
think,
for
example,
you
need
a
majority
to
do
that.
You
can
make
that
request
and
of
itself
as
an
individual
council
member,
and
so
the
mpa
committee
can
set
up
regular
meetings
on
this
issue
when
they
think
that
it's
necessary
or
for
updates
from
codes
for
their
particular
issues.
Those
committee
meetings
are
public.
Q
Other
council
members
can
attend
those
committees,
even
though
they're
not
participating
everest,
but
they
can't
attend.
So
you
know
I
hope
that
clarifies
so,
for
example,
councilman
riley.
If
you
wanted
to
request
an
update
from
the
mpa
committee
every
two
months
on
the
issue
of
code
enforcement
issues
in
the
city
of
binghamton,
you
could
do
so
and
I
think
that
makes
the
best
use
of
what
these
committees
are
for,
and
I
understand
we've
been
in
covet
season.
Q
You
know
it's
been
two
years,
and
so
our
muscles
are
not
necessarily
as
flexed
as
we
have
been
in
the
past
on
the
committee
side.
But
if
people
have
questions
on
procedure,
this
is
exactly
what
the
committee
process
is
for
and
creating
a
schedule
whether
or
not
it's
for
the
committee
around
a
particular
issue
on
arm
or
on
reporting
a
counsel
on
a
regular
basis.
B
K
Councilman
bird
jedi
yeah,
thank
you
everybody
for
all
of
this.
You
know
just
making
notes
here
and
that
you
know
we
have
families
living
in
our
city
in
housing
that
is
not
up
to
code
and
they've
been
living
there.
A
long
time
and
the
same
landlords
do
the
same
thing
and
goes
on,
and
on
so
I
mean
I
would
love
to
sit
with
chris
and
sharon
and
all
of
you
and
to
talk
to
them
about
how
can
we
fix
this
in
a
way
that
is
fast?
K
I
know
that
you
know
something
goes
down
in
code.
It
goes
to
court,
it
does
you
know
it's
such
a
long
process.
You
know
it's
like
trying
to
get
the
president's
tax
returns.
You
know
I
mean
it
just
goes
on
and
on.
So
what
is
the
best
way?
To
fix
that?
I
mean
that
to
me,
that
would
be
one
of
the
priorities
is
helping
the
families
that
are
living
in
conditions
below
code.
As
far
as
the
high
grass
and
all
this
goes,
this
is
all
and
everything's
going
to
be
money.
K
You
know
everything
comes
down
to
money.
The
parks
department
works
as
hard
as
they
can
work.
Therefore,
this
summer
we're
going
to
see
the
high
grass
because
they're
already
working
as
hard
as
they're
going
to
work,
so
unless
we
hire
some
more
summer
people
to
cut
specifically
to
do
those
types
of
things
you
know.
That's,
though
this
is
what
we
have
to
do,
so
I
hope
I
I
I
know
that
megan
is
listening.
I
hope
that
the
the
mayor's
opened
that.
K
Q
You
know.
The
last
thing
I
would
say
with
regards
to
corporation
council's
role.
Here
is
before
the
pandemic
and
tom
noces
geonosis
sophia
knows
this.
Every
council
member
was
more
than
welcome
in
the
office
of
corporation
council
on
a
dime
on
no
notice.
You
know,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
the
office
of
corporation
council
was
always
willing
and
really
privileged
to
do
right.
Q
Is
you
always
had
access
to
us
individually
to
talk
about
issues
to
brainstorm,
how
we
can
approach
and
tackle
various
problems,
and
I
think,
with
the
pandemic
and
also
competing
work
schedules
right
having
other
jobs
and
things
like
that,
they've
conflicted,
sometimes
with
corporations
council's
ability
to
have
an
open.
I
shouldn't
say
the
open
door
policy
has
has
always
been
there,
but
it
hasn't
necessarily
been
utilized
in
the
last
two
years.
K
Yeah
also,
if
there's
a
way,
I
know
that
I
know
that
the
mayor
talked
about
hiring
someone
specifically
to
deal
with
code
and
corporation
council
and
dealing
with
these
banks
that
own
these
these
homes
that
nobody
lives
in,
and
they
just
continue
to
deteriorate
this
one
at
108
park
avenue
that
stands
out
to
me.
It's
been
that
way
for
you
and
a
bank
owns
it
and
it's
just
it's
just
falling
down,
and
nobody
does
anything
about.
K
Q
The
city
had
a
very
vigorous
process,
particularly
through
a
vacant
property
officer
and
office,
also
through
the
office
of
corporation
council
of
citing
banks
and
having
them
follow
through
on
various
work
orders.
Everything
has
gotten
backlogged,
particularly
with
regards
to
moratoriums
and
stays
of
court
actions
that
have
really
only
started
to
open
up,
and
I
think
one
of
the
important
things
is
to
note
that
with
regards
to
the
office
of
corporation
council,
it
is
not
quote
landlord
friendly
by
any
means
most
of
our
most
vigorous.
Q
Q
A
good
example,
councilman
scringey
was
was
always
very
good
about
this.
If
there's
a
particular
problem:
property
notifying
corporation
counsel,
code
enforcement,
engaging
in
an
interdisciplinary
effort
with
regards
to
that
property
sometimes
involves
police.
Sometimes
it
doesn't
involve
police
and
involves
you
know.
Various
other
social
services
programs,
megan
hyman,
for
example,
assisted
us
with
partnering,
with
a
volunteer
landscaping
company
for
an
elderly
hoarder
about
two
years
ago
right.
Q
So
we
tend
to
tackle
these
problems
from
an
interdisciplinary
measure
and
I
think
many
council
members
might
be
shocked
with
or
surprised
by
some
of
the
efforts
that
have
been
spearheaded
by
the
current
team
that
we
have,
but
certainly
this
mayor's
office
is
deeply
committed
to
improving
a
lot
of
those
mechanisms,
but
please
feel
free
to
meet
with
anybody
in
the
office
of
corporation
council.
With
regards
to
your
concerns
at
any
time.
That
is
then,
that
is
your
absolute
right
to
do
so,
and
I
encourage
you
to
take
tickets.
B
B
It
has
been
lost
a
little
bit
for
me
because
it
started
so
quickly
of
meetings
that
I
wanted
to
potentially
have
with
different
departments
and
just
kind
of
never
just
just
because
of
the
the
pandemic,
but
also
remember
it
kind
of
opened
my
eyes
a
little
bit.
I've
learned
some
of
this
by
contacting
we
say,
code
code
code
code
code.
A
lot
of
this
crosses
zoning
and
dpw
too.
B
So
part
of
our
issues
are
also
helping
to
coordinate
or
is
any
budgetary
relief
or
increases
needed
in
those
areas,
for
instance
the
garbage
side
of
it
well,
the
garbage
pickup
is
obviously
dpw,
but
zoning
is
actually
dumpsters
and
receptacles
and
and
that's
a
big
part
of
the
garb
too,
especially
as
it
relates
to
apartment,
buildings
and
stuff.
Like
that,
there's
a
lot
of
things
you
can
and
can't
do
that
I've
learned
with
the
garbage
and
that's
a
big
issue
too.
B
B
B
C
L
C
F
Thanks,
I
have,
I
would
say,
a
couple
of
general
comments
in
so
far
as
like
ways
that
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
look
to
like
lenses
through
which
it
will
be
helpful
to
view
this
conversation
or
to
have
this
conversation,
and
I
think
generally,
what
what
I'm
thinking
is.
I
think
a
lot
of
the
frustration
that
stems
from
these
code
conversations
is
a
lot
of
the
time
it.
F
Or
you
know,
oh
now,
that
the
now
that
the
grass
has
grown
tall
now,
here's
a
fine
or
something
like
that,
but
rather
like
how
can
we
take
the
stress
off
of
parks
and
dtw
and
code
who
are
working
very,
very
hard
and
switch
it
so
that
we
can
prevent
these
problems
from
happening
in
the
first
place?
And-
and
I
think
I
think
it
is
possible
to
do
that.
F
One
is
the
more
surface
level
beauty
like
physical
appearance,
which,
as
one
of
my
constituents
said
that
involves
removal,
so
snow
removal,
garbage
removal
and
tall
grass
removal,
and
I
think
that
that
has
to
be
a
separate
conversation
from
like
see
like
code
violation,
safety
issues
for
renters,
because
that's
that's
a
huge
issue.
Is
that
properties
that
not
not,
that
garbage
and
grass
and
snow
isn't
a
safety
issue,
but
I
mean
like
houses
that
have
black
mold
in
them
or
where
the
the
floor
is
like
squishy.
F
You
know
when
you
walk
those
kinds
of
safety
issues
I
think,
require
a
different
type
of
conversation
around
code,
and
you
know
I'm
kind
of
excited
about
this
conversation,
because
it
does
seem
like
an
opportunity
to
really
think
creatively
and
really
like
solve
problems
in
the
way
that
I
I
feel
like
when
we
were
running
for
office.
This
is
kind
of
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
project,
but
I
think
this.
F
This
is
sort
of
the
type
of
thing
that
people
envision
themselves
working
on
when
they're
elected
like
yes,
here's
an
actual,
concrete
difference
that
I
can
make
in
the
lives
of
my
constituents.
So
I
do
look
forward
to
continuing
this
conversation,
and
I
did
want
to
just
put
that
out
there
that
I
don't
think
we
need
to
think
of
like
parks
and
dpw
having
more
work.
I
think,
if
we're
successful
in
this,
they
will
actually
have
less
work
at
the
end
of
this.
F
N
B
Right,
thank
you.
No,
I
agree.
It's
easy
to
concentrate
on
the
aesthetic
stuff
and
we
have
to,
but
I
agree,
that's
probably
two
separate
things.
So,
let's,
let's:
let's
do
this:
let's
not
go
right
now,
because
I
don't
think
everybody's
prepared
to
do
that.
But
let's,
let's
start,
why
don't
we
all
just
consider
what
we
talked
about?
I
think
the
biggest
thing,
what
I
don't
want
to
do
is
get
lost
in
the
in
the
form
of
it
and
not.
You
know,
like
councilman's
kurdish,
said,
get
back
to
the
substance
of
it.
B
B
Are
you
okay,
doing
a
discussion
like
this
or
when
we
get
this
start
whatever
list
that
we
bring
it
back
to
this
group?
Do
you
want?
Are
you
okay
with
doing
it
that
way
to
to
not
have
separate
times
in
places
that
we're
doing
all
of
this?
Is
that
agreeable?
Do
you
think
that's
I
mean
I
think
it
makes
sense.
E
Having
some
technical
difficulties
here
tonight,
but
I
think
I
would
support
doing
exactly
what
you
just
said
for
all
of
us
to
be
reaching
out
to
consummate
scrungi
if
it's
okay,
with
councilman
scrungey,
of
course,
to
share
our
thoughts
about
these
issues.
I
mean
there's
just
so
many
layers
to
it
and
there's
so
many
pieces
that
we
all
feel
so
strongly
about
that.
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
thoughtful
about,
and
then
I
would
personally
love
to
see
us
come
back
together
and
soon
as
soon
as
we
can
make.
E
It
happen
reasonably
soon
to
have
a
conversation
about
how
to
move
forward,
and
I
also
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
those
of
you
that
did
take
this
initial
step
to
get
this
moving.
This
is
a
this.
Is
you
know
what
we
have
been
hearing
about
for
a
long
time,
and
so
I
would
just
support
the
idea
of
getting
your
thoughts
together
via
email
and
coming
back
together
as
soon
as
we
can
make
that
happen.
B
Thank
you,
hey
sharon.
Can
I
ask
you
something?
Maybe
this
is
your
direct
device
or
opinion?
My
biggest
thing
that
I
wanted
to
try
to
do
is
to
that
or
to
weed
out
things
weed
out
pun
intended.
Some
things
are
like.
So
it's
easy
to
say:
there's
no
idea,
that's
a
bad
idea,
and
that's
true
in
theory,
but
there
also
are
things
that
we've
come
across
this
last
year.
That
seem
like
a
real
make,
a
lot
of
sense,
and
somebody
like
you
would
say
to
us
yeah.
That
makes
sense,
but
can't
do
it.
B
It's
a
non-starter
for
a
certain
reason.
Is
there?
Would
it
be
you
or
somebody
in
corporate
council?
Is
there
any
way
that
council
scrungey
can
take
some
of
these,
and
we
can
have
an
initial
vetting
of
some
at
some
layer
is
what
I
don't
want
to
do.
I
want
everybody
to
hear
this.
I
want
to
bring
our
commissioners
and
people
into
the
process
as
needed,
but
I
also
want
to
be
to
hone
it
a
little
bit
before
we
do
to
really
get
specific
on
things
that
are
possible,
or
does
that
make
sense?
I
J
B
B
You
could
say
that
this
there's
a
second
level
of
possible,
but
going
to
take
a
lot
of
time
and
process
to
do
it
or
not
possible.
Sorry,
great
idea.
I
know
what
you're
thinking,
but
the
state
doesn't
allow
that.
What's
the
best
way,
do
you
think
to
efficiently
try
to
navigate
some
of
that
on
the
front
end
to
really
own
this
list
into
something
that's
possible
as
we
move
forward.
Q
Then
there
are
some
things
that
are
not
permitted
by
state
like,
for
example,
making
the
maximum
length
for
grass
four
inches
right,
because
the
state
doesn't
allow
us
to
do
anything
more
or
I
should
say
more
de
minimis
that
it
has
on
certain
pieces
of
legislation.
So
my
suggestion
would
be,
as
you
guys
are,
compiling
as
council
members
are
compiling
their
kind
of
list
of
their
dream
list
right
before
we
expend
a
substantial
amount
of
effort,
kind
of
researching
the
dream
list
flag.
Q
Those
issues
for
corporation
council
brian,
who
has
been
at
the
city
for
20
plus
years,
is
quite
well
versed
in
what
is
unconstitutional
and
not
permitted
by
the
state
when
it
comes
to
code
enforcement
issues.
So,
even
though
we
are
honing
in
on
a
code
enforcement
prosecutor,
brian
seacrest,
who
is
now
the
corporation
council,
is
very
familiar.
Q
I
would
say
I
am
also
substantially
familiar,
although
brian
is
definitely
the
expert
in
the
field
and
he
can
flag
things
right
off
the
bat
that
he
knows
based
off
of
current
new
york,
state
law
and
current
federal
law
that
are
impermissible
and
then
there's
a
whole
field
of
things
that
are
possible,
but
not
necessarily
practical.
But
that's
more
of
an
operational
decision.
Q
That's
more
of
a
budgetary
decision
and
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
that
we
would
say,
here's
a
scope
of
how
other
municipalities
are
doing
it
and
here's
whether
or
not
it
works
for
them.
And
we
kick
it
right
back
to
your
court
and
those
are
the
things
that
are
worth
exploring.
So
my
suggestion
is
you're
right
on
a
president.
K
Can
I
just
say
one
more
go
ahead,
councilmember
the
you
know,
I
think
the
commissioners
would
equally
be.
You
know
we're
saying
that
we
bring
them
in
as
needed,
but
I
would
love
to
hear
them
at
the
very
first
part
of
our
discussions
to
say
you
know
when
we
you
know
like,
for
instance,
just
high
grass.
K
B
B
C
President
go
ahead,
if
I
may
so
just
two
things
so
just
for
transparency
and
openness,
I
will
follow
up
with
you
tomorrow
with
a
phone
call
individually
one-on-one.
So
as
chair
of
the
mta
committee,
I
can
propose
and
throw
something
off
you
with
respect
to
how
we
are
going
to
procedurally
do
this
moving
forward
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
part
of
the
discussion
and
then
I
will
follow
up
with
an
email
with
all
my
colleagues
to
let
everyone
know
that,
because
my
concern
is.
C
We
want
deep
substantive
debate,
but
we
don't
want
to
take
six
months
with
this,
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
you
I'll
talk
to
you
about
it
tomorrow
and
then
I'll
share
that
discussion
with
everyone.
So
just
so,
I
can
follow
up
with
everyone.
Okay,
so
here's
what
I've
got
so
far,
issues
with
grass
code
resources
and
the
monies
associated
with
resources
for
code,
housing
and
corp
council
councilman
burns
talked
a
little
bit
about
efficient
ways
of
dealing
with
code
issues
and
what
are
the
most
efficient
ways?
C
Can
we,
on
a
local
level,
move
that
process
in
some
way
where
the
turnaround
time
can
potentially
be
decreased?
I
believe
councilwoman
friedman
discussed
a
little
bit
about.
Can
we
make
things
not
just
punitive?
I'm
sorry,
not
just
punitive
and
more
preventative
those
imminent
life
safety
issues
that
she
was
discussing.
I
also
heard:
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
work
with
the
banks
with
properties
that
they
own
that
are
just
sitting
and
kind
of
deteriorating
away?
C
Code
concerns
safety
issues,
not
just
the
aesthetic
things,
but
the
internal
things
like
mold
and
flooring
windows.
Things
like
that
and
what
does
code
as
a
department
actually
need
from
us?
Is
there
anything
that
I'm
missing
from
what
we've
discussed?
So
I
can
start
aggregating
this
list
and
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soon
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