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A
B
A
You,
madam
clerk
I'm,
going
to
take
some
Liberty
with
the
agenda.
We
have
a
really
important
presentation
coming
up,
but
mayor
kram
will
be
joining
us
and
he
is
coming
in
about
a
few
minutes.
So
I'm
just
going
to
take
the
liberty
of
moving
around
the
agenda
I'm
going
to
ask
from
the
mayor's
office
if
Grace
Doherty
would
join
us,
please
for
rl's,
23,
121
and
122.
A
Excellent,
what
is
that
for
is
that
for
both
of
those
props,
okay,
excellent.
So
both
reason,
both
recent
demolitions,
both
part
of
the
side,
lock,
program
and
I,
know
Grace
I
know
you
head
that
up
and
that's
a
lot
of
work.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
all
that
counsel.
Any
discussion
on
either
of
those
two
RLS.
A
Seeing
none
Grace.
Thank
you
very,
very
much
really
appreciate
you.
Thank
you
have
a
good
night
at
this
time
we
will
move
on
to
RL
23-125.
A
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
ask
Sarah
gloss
from
Economic,
Development,
Jeff,
spintana
and
mayor
cram
to
please
join
us.
A
D
Like
to
go
mayor,
sure,
I'll
kind
of
set
the
T
here
so
I
think
everyone's
aware
that
the
city
is
moving
forward
with
the
roughly
22
million
dollar
investment,
the
site
of
the
former
Water
Street
Parking
Garage
for
a
new
public
parking
facility
to
support
ongoing
investments
in
the
future
of
Boscov's
in
the
city
of
Binghamton,
as
well
as
supporting
all
of
our
downtown
Arts
District
local
restaurants,
local
small
businesses,
visitors,
downtown
residents
Etc.
As
part
of
that
vision.
D
When
the
city
wanted
to
build
the
new
parking
garage,
we
looked
at
saying
what
was
the
newest
kind
of
latest
in
Urban
Design
that
other
cities
are
doing
as
it
relates
to
not
just
a
parking
garage
but
truly
a
mixed
use
of
property
that
could
fulfill
our
parking
requirements
downtown
but
also
build.
You
know
better
than
was
there
before,
and
so
the
city
issued
an
RFP,
a
joint
venture
between
Pike
and
United
companies
came
in
and
it
was
for
both
that
parking
garage
and
a
mixed-use
housing
component.
D
That
will
allow
us
to
build
the
infrastructure
required
for
that
this,
but
also
you
know
at
in
the
end,
deliver
those
new
units
of
market
rate
housing
that
we
hear
about
a
lot
from
businesses
that
want
to
attract
and
retain
people,
both
young
professionals
and
mid-career
professionals
to
the
city
of
Binghamton,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
right
now
and
with
that
I'll
give
it
over
to
Jeff
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
project
in
himself.
Thank
you,
mayor.
E
Right
great,
thank
you
mayor
good
evening.
Everyone,
my
name
is
Jeff
smetana
I
work
for
the
United
group
of
companies,
we're
based
in
Troy
New
York
up
near
Albany
companies
been
around
for
over
15
years.
We
do
quite
a
bit
of
different
types
of
development,
but
a
lot
of
it
is
focused
on
different
types
of
multi-family.
E
We've
done
market
rate,
military
housing,
student,
housing,
low-income
housing
and
we've
also
done,
and
some
amount
of
mixed
use
development
as
well
in
other
similar
cities
to
Binghamton
in
cities
like
Schenectady,
Troy,
Utica,
Albany,
so
I
think
we
understand
how
what
it's
like
to
work
in
an
urban
community
and
also
the
idea
of
having
different
elements
come
together,
whether
they're
part
of
the
project
or
whether
they're
tangential.
E
You
know
here
that
the
part
of
you
know
Boscov's,
for
example,
and
the
municipal
parking
are,
are
very
synergistic
to
the
overall
project
and
similar
to
sort
of
this
P3
public-private
partnership
approach,
where
we've
done
a
number
of
projects,
also
I'd
like
to
add
that
been
working
with
the
United
group
for
about
four
years
for
the
10
years.
Prior
to
that
I
worked
with
Newman
development.
E
E
E
I
was
able
to
speak
to
our
team
about
how
this
whole
project
really
would
tie
together,
really
explain
to
them
what
a
great
location
this
is,
how
really
having
something
based
in
the
Urban
core
of
the
city
was
was
so
important
while
50
front
is
a
very
nice
project
within
the
city.
It's
part
of
the
West
side,
it's
on
the
other
side
of
the
river,
it's
technically
walkable
to
downtown,
but
not
the
way.
E
I
think
folks
would
really
like
to
see
an
urban-based
project
so
as
it
ties
together
all
the
great
elements
that
the
mayor
was
talking
about
when
you
think
about
all
the
great
restaurants
and
cultural
assets
the
city
has
and
the
ball
fields
and
the
Arenas
and
whatever
really
at
least
from
my
perspective,
explained
to
our
Development
Group.
E
What
this
project
could
really
represent
in
terms
of
Lifestyle
I
think
was
really
I
got
people
really
very
interested
in
supportive
of
the
project,
and
it's
been
a
long
process
here
from
when
we
first
responded
to
the
RFP
I
think
is
everyone
knows
what
cities
and
communities
have
been
through
in
terms
of
covid
and
this
incredible
escalation
and
costs
great
escalation
and
interest
rates.
So
the
project
that
we
were
initially
really
speaking
about
really
evolved.
It's
really
increased
costs,
significantly.
E
Steel
prices,
I
think,
as
everyone
knows,
have
gone
up
substantially
concrete
and,
of
course,
interest
rates.
Are
you
know
more
than
double
what
they
were
when
we
were
stuck
looking
at
the
project,
but
through
that
the
mayor
and
other
representatives
from
the
city
stayed
determined
to
really
drive
us
encourage
us
to
stay
in?
We
had
some
real
hurdles
to
get
over
a
lot
of
problems
to
solve.
E
So
it's
taken
us
a
long
time
really
to
get
to
this
point,
where
I
think
we
finally
have
a
project
in
terms
of
design,
construction
costs
and
overall
financial
model
that
really
can
work
when
a
lot
of
projects
really
are
not
working
in
as
new
development
projects.
Right
now
here
is
one
especially
in
Upstate.
New
York.
E
Here
is
a
project
that
that
can
really
happen,
but
it
does
need
some
of
the
structures
that
we've
built
in
here,
and
they
were
here
to
talk
about
and
this
pilot
being
a
very
large
part
of
it.
Now
I've
done
I've
been
involved
with
quite
a
few
different
Pilots
across
upstate
New
York,
and
it's
not
something
that
people
generally
view
favorably,
not
something
they
want
to
do.
E
E
Had
there
not
been
a
pilot
projects
we
did
in
Ithaca
would
not
have
occurred
in
downtown
Ithaca,
and
certainly
this
project
really
doesn't
happen
without
us
being
creative
about
how
we
utilize
this
tax
revenue
to
offset
the
regular
cost
of
taxes
because
taxes
here,
if
this
was
a
full
Market
tax
project,
this
would
be
over
seven
thousand
dollars
a
unit.
So
you
know
six
hundred
dollars
a
month
that
tenants
ramp
is
just
going
to
pay
property
taxes.
It
just
makes
these
apartments
non-affordable
for
any
Resident.
E
So
you
know
we're
here
to
talk
about
why
we
need
it,
explain
to
you
how
why
we've
structured
it
this
way,
I
think
it
does
achieve
the
goals
the
city
would
really
like
to
see.
It
does
bring
new
residents
into
downtown
it.
E
Will
young
Professionals,
in
particular
I
think
also
empty
nesters,
but
I
think
largely
the
young
professionals
that
either
are
already
in
this
community
and
don't
have
a
place
where
they
could
live
in
the
city
or
even
helping
businesses
attract
new
residents
and
help
us
here
retain
graduates
from
Binghamton
University
and
the
other
great
schools
that
are
here.
E
The
so
the
pilot
is
structured,
similar
to
the
way
that
the
50
Front
Street
pilot
was
done.
E
It's
a
28-year
term
and
you
really
need
this
extended
term
in
part
because
of
the
very
high
tax
rates
and
the
high
tax
amount,
so
that
over
time,
the
regular
project
financing
can
really
absorb
the
the
tech,
the
taxes
as
part
of
the
operating
expenses,
because
once
we
get
up
and
get
the
project
constructed,
get
through
our
construction
financing
and
then
get
in
just
permanent
financing.
E
There
still
needs
to
be
this
Runway
of
future
tax
abatements
in
order
to
make
all
of
that,
and
all
of
that
work
and
part
of
the
way
that
we've
been
dealing
with
some
of
these
other
cost
escalations.
The
interest
rates,
the
costs
of
of
Steel
and
other
building
materials,
something
that
the
city
asked
us
to
look
at
was
incorporating
a
pilot
Bond
and
what
a
pilot
bond
is.
Is
it
monetizes
the
future
tax
revenue
that
would
be
paid
by
the
project
owner
as
part
of
its
pilot?
E
So
there's
a
future
stream
of
28
payments
and
then
bonds
are
issued
against
that
future.
Stream
So,
a
portion
of
those
monthly
payment
or
annual
payments
that
we'll
be
making
are
utilized
then
to
to
pay
for
the
pilot
bond
with
the
pilot
Bond
proceeds
because
it
provides
these
upfront
proceeds
that
can
be
used
to
make
this
multi-family
element
of
the
project
feasible,
because
building
on
top
of
the
garage
is
really
very
expensive
and
in
order
to
really
create
a
mixed
use,
project
have
a
public
garage
and
have
this
apartment
project.
E
On
top
of
the
garage
six
feet
up,
there
need
to
be
utilities.
There
are
structural
elements
to
the
project
that
need
to
be
incorporated,
so
the
pilot
Bond
then
gives
the
city
it
utilizes
the
existing
project
funds,
without
going
outside
the
project,
not
looking
for
any
additional
public
bonds
to
be
utilized
to
support
the
project
using
project
funds
dollars
will
be
paying
to
generate
these
Bond
proceeds
that
can
go
into
creating
a
viable
building
pad
to
create
the
project
and
and
really
make
it
work.
E
E
We
were
strongly
encouraged
to
also
look
at
energy,
efficient
means
and
methods
and
in
response
to
what
the
city
and
the
mayor
were
looking
for,
were
incorporating
a
an
energy
star
program,
the
energy
star,
multi-family
high-rise
program,
and
that
is
a
scoring
program
that
looks
at
all
aspects
of
your
Construction.
E
The
superstructure
of
the
building,
the
building
envelope,
the
mechanical
systems,
your
operating
expenses
and
scores
that
to
make
sure
you're
achieving
a
certain
energy
rating.
So
that's
something
that
the
project
can
use
as
a
a
marketing
element
to
your
for
future
residence.
Future
people
that
really
want
to
live
and
an
energy,
efficient,
building
and
also
I
think
will
be
a
set
of
standard,
probably
for
future
projects
in
the
city.
E
It'll
be
another
way
for
the
city
to
really
provide
developers,
a
means
of
quantifying
energy,
efficient
and
green
development
designed
to
to
their
overall
project.
I.
Think
the
project
incorporates
a
lot
of
smart
growth
strategies
that
I
think
cities
really
need
to
embrace
to
really
help
the
kind
of
development
that
you
want
to
happen
by
creating
this
density
on
a
on
a
small
Urban
footprint
and
going
more
vertical.
It's
a
very
smart
strategy.
E
Combining
parking
with
residential
I
think
is
another
part
of
that
smart
growth
strategy
that
I
think
is
well
utilized
that
we
were
encouraged
to
embrace.
That
I
think
has
worked
out
here
really
very
well.
E
Just
some
of
the
exhibits
that
I
brought
on
the
left.
You
can
see
the
the
aerial
view.
You
know
certainly
critically
located
this.
You
shed
as
you
enter
the
city
coming
down,
Front
Street
or
is
your
coming
into
the
city
from
the
South
Side
it'll?
E
Be
this
iconic
building
that'll,
be
there
create
this
very
strong
presence
and
ties
together
all
these
other
elements
that
are
downtown
in
terms
of
the
business
district,
the
arts
district,
even
the
west
side,
that
I
think
this
location
just
works
out
really
well.
A
significant
part
of
the
project
also
is
the
support
it
is
for
Boscov's
and
I.
Think.
Is
you
well
know?
E
The
city
really
had
to
work
hard
to
really
show
Boscov's
that
their
future,
their
best
future,
really
remain
staying
where
they
are
in
place
as
a
destination
into
downtown
and
I.
Think
that
that
relationship
is
very
important
to
us.
Looking
to
do
this
residential
project
as
well
and
I,
think
all
of
that
really
ends
up
being
a
a
win-win
for
the
city
and
the
community.
You
can
put
them
on
board
Sarah.
They
are
just
another
view.
E
This
I
think
is
a
very
good
view,
but
this
is
an
early
rendering.
The
colors
of
the
building
have
actually
changed
a
little
bit
they're
a
little
bit
lighter
than
this,
but
I
think
this
really
represents
well
what
this
really
means
sort
of
to
the
to
the
skyline
of
the
city.
It's
it's
an
iconic
building.
That
really
says
you
know
this
is
our
downtown.
This
is
our
business
district.
E
This
is
this
is
where
you
should
be
coming
for
the
action,
and
this
is
where
you
might
want
to
live
and
for
residents
that
are
going
to
be
living
on
that
sixth,
through
tenth
floor
they're
going
to
have
fabulous
views,
it'll
be
a
great
place
to
live,
we're
going
to
have
a
rooftop
Terrace,
that'll
Overlook
the
river,
and
it
just
ties
so
many
elements
together
again
with
the
arts
district.
E
It's
down
at
the
bottom
here
tying
into
the
MLK
Park,
which
I
think
has
been
a
real
underutilized
resource
to
the
city,
to
really
make
that
the
Riverwalk
even
more
activated
I.
Think
if
you
live
here
and
you
want
to
bike
or
run
or
walk,
walk
your
dog,
you
know
what
a
great
place
to
go.
E
It's
right
there
or
you
go
into
some
of
the
downtown
amenities
or
if
you
work
in
this
building,
you
know
it
might
be
a
great
place
to
live
and
then
be
able
to
walk
to
work
and
then
the
image
on
the
right.
It
gives
you
a
better
idea
of
of
the
building.
How
there's
the
various
layers
of
the
of
the
parking
garage
that'll
be
open
to
the
public
and
then
the
residential
portion
about.
E
F
Thank
you,
president
crunchy
hello,
thank
you
for
being
here
for
that
presentation.
I
apologize,
I
lost
my
voice
a
little
bit
so
you'll
have
to
bear
with
me
so
I
I
do
have
a
question
I'm
looking
at
this
table
on
the
schedule,
one,
the
pilot
schedule
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
this
correctly
that
it
appears
as
though
there
there
will
never
be
a
point
at
which
this
project
I
guess
will
pay
full.
The
full
tax
rate
is
that
am
I
understanding
that
correctly,
that
that's.
E
F
F
I'm
trying
to
think
how
I
want
to
phrase
this
question,
you
know
I,
know
I
know
you
kind
of
you
started
your
presentation
with
this
disclaimer
that
sometimes
people
don't
love
Pilots
or
they
don't.
You
know,
feel
favorably
toward
them
and,
in
my
mind,
I
I,
don't
mind
Pilots,
but
I
kind
of
have
them
reserved
towards
particular
projects
like
not
profit
or
certain
things
where
it,
the
the
entity.
F
Let's
say,
does
you
know
like
a
non-profit,
doesn't
pay
taxes,
or
you
know
something
like
that
for
I'm
gonna
be
honest
with
you
in
that
it
I
I,
don't
know
that
a
for-profit
company
doing
market
rate
housing
fits
into
my
categorization
of
an
appropriate
use
of
a
pilot.
I
could
be
swayed,
but.
F
F
E
That's
that
is
the
question,
and
that
was
what
I
you
know
really
brought
up,
because
we're
used
to
these
kinds
of
questions
because,
as
I
was
saying
it
it,
a
pilot
is
a
tool
for
a
community
to
use
to
get
a
for-profit
business,
basically
to
do
something
they
wouldn't
otherwise
do
basically
to
go
into
a
place,
a
location
where
they
wouldn't
otherwise
develop.
E
So
in
order
for-
and
this
is
why
like
I
said,
we've
done
a
lot
of
Urban
based
development
than
a
lot
of
pilots
and
what
they've
all
achieved
is
they've.
Had
private
companies
come
in
and
do
development
in
locations
and
provide
the
types
of
projects
that
they
wouldn't
otherwise
do,
and
it's
the
community
encouraging
those
businesses
to
come
in
and
say
we
have
this
blighted
site.
We
have
this
need
for
market
rate
housing
and
you
wouldn't
otherwise
come
into
our
city
and
do
this.
E
E
So
the
fact
that
we're
a
for-profit
business
is
really
a
good
thing
from
the
city's
perspective
that
you're
drawing
private
businesses
using
private
funds,
because,
in
addition
to
I
mean
we
are
getting
the
benefit
of
the
pilot,
but
that
pilot
benefit
flows
directly
through
to
our
residents,
because
they're
paying
market
rate
rents
that
would
otherwise
be
above
Market
rents,
but
we're
on
top
of
that.
We're
spending
our
money
to
construct
this
project,
to
invest
equity
and
to
enter
into
construction
loans,
to
build
the
project.
F
All
right
they
thank
you
for
that
that
explanation,
I'm
wondering
if
the.
F
If
you
took
into
consideration
that
housing
needs
assessment,
you
know
I
know,
there's
a
large
need
for
affordable
housing.
I,
don't
know
how
much
there
there
is
a
need
for
market
rate
housing
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
evidence
to
suggest
that
this
would
be.
You
know
that
that
all
the
apartments
presumably
would
be
full
right.
E
Well-
and
this
is
something
we
see
in
a
lot
of
Northeastern
communities
where
there
hasn't
been
new
market
rate
development
for
sometimes
30
years,
so
when
we
did
50
Front
Street
when
I
was
with
Newman
development,
people
said
well.
Why
do
you
think
you
need
it
where
there
hasn't
been
any
built
in
30
years
and
no
one
will
want
to
live
there,
but
as
soon
as
we
had
the
ground
breaking
there,
people
came
out
in
surprising
numbers
to
say
gosh
how
do
I
get
on
a
waiting
list?
E
I
want
to
live
in
the
city,
I
like
the
urban
lifestyle,
so
it
that
was
the
best
Market
study
we
could
have
had
that
proved
it
out.
That
showed
that
yes,
this
is
something
this
community
does
really
does
need,
and
it's
it.
E
When
you
look
at
Beyond
50
front,
what
are
the
new
market
rate
projects
that
are
really
occurred
in
Broome,
County,
they're,
very
limited,
and
if
you
go
to
other
areas
in
upstate,
New
York,
if
you
go
to
Rochester,
you
go
to
Buffalo,
you
go
to
Albany
Albany
less
so
in
some
of
these
other
communities,
but
Rochester
and
buffalo
are
beautiful
examples
of
how
this
new
types
of
apartments
are
bringing
a
lot
of
energy
into
those
cities.
E
People
that
wouldn't
have
otherwise
been
living
in
the
city
or
moving
downtown
businesses
are
moving
downtown
they're
retaining
graduates
from
their
colleges.
So
we
are
really
looking
more
to
other
communities
and
specifically
to
other
Upstate
communities
that
have
developed
new
market
rate
housing
and
showing
the
effect
that
it
can
have
versus.
G
Just
want
to
add
on
to
that
in
terms
of
what
we
need
in
the
stock
right
now,
we've
seen
that
there's
a
there
is
an
incredible
demand
for
affordable
housing,
but
all
of
our
market
rate
projects
also
have
wait
lists
and,
in
speaking
with
businesses,
we've
done
a
couple
of
tours
of
large
Employers
in
the
area
lately
and
they're
all
telling
us
that
one
of
their
biggest
barriers
to
attracting
specifically
young
Talent
Engineers
out
of
College
lawyers,
is
housing
that
even
when
they
can
attract
a
candidate,
they'll
end
up
living
20
30
minutes
away.
G
When
they
want
to
live
in
the
city,
they
want
to
have
access
to
exactly,
as
Jeff
said,
the
amenities
of
a
city,
but
they
just
they
can't
afford
it
or
they
can't
find
a
unit,
and
so
that's
the
reason
that
this
particular
project
is
market
rate.
We've
brought
a
couple
other,
affordable
housing
projects
to
this
board,
for
consideration,
for
a
variety
of
things
will
continue
to
advance
those
projects
as
well.
Certainly,
this
is
not
the
only
iron
in
the
fire.
G
This
happens
to
be
the
one
that's
ready
right
now,
but
in
the
same
way
that
we've
been
creative
in
developing
this
pretty
unique
pilot
product
for
this
project,
we're
working
to
get
creative
on
housing
across
the
spectrum
because
well,
where
the
increased
costs
have
affected
this
project
they've
affected
every
single
project
in
the
city,
we're
seeing
huge
financing
gaps
with
every
developer,
we're
working
with
and
trying
to
be
as
creative
as
possible
to
get
as
many
new
units
of
market
rate
Workforce,
affordable
online
as
possible.
So
certainly
there's
a
demand
across
the
Spectrum.
G
F
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
one
last
question:
you
mentioned
that
there
will
be
six
units
of
Workforce,
housing
and
I.
Think
you
said
that
meets
the
city's
need.
Can
you
talk
more
about
what
you
meant
by
that
just.
E
That
you
know
just
when
we
first
started
working
with
the
city.
The
city
really
talked
about
how
the
shortage
of
Workforce
housing
and
Workforce
housing
you
know
traditionally
to
for
you
know:
teachers,
nurses,
policemen,
firefighters,
the
amount
of
housing
that's
available
or
that
market
segment,
and
certainly
it's
a
national
need.
E
E
No
I'm
sure
it's
not
we'll
meet
all
the
need,
but
it
certainly
is
is
contributing
to
some
of
the.
D
That's
a
great
question:
council
member.
This
is
part
of
you'll
recall
our
our
Zoom
call
that
we
had
with
the
commissioner
of
HCR,
where
I
sort
of
said
as
it
relates
to
a
portable
which
is,
you
know
to
me.
A
Workforce
is
affordable.
Housing
I
asked
you
know,
I
feel,
like
we've
been
having
the
ball
at
the
one
yard
line
from
on
many
of
these
major
projects,
Town
and
Country
200
court.
But
what
can
we
do
to
get
more
units
online?
D
And
you
know
her
response
and
I
think
the
state's
response
has
been
get
creative
and
find
ways
if
you
can,
even
if
it's
much
smaller
numbers,
add
affordable
or
Workforce
type
housing.
That
is,
you
know,
income
specific.
So
if
you
are
above
that
income
threshold,
you're
you're
not
eligible
for
it
as
part
of
market
rate
housing,
so
again,
six
units
will
certainly
not
meet
the
city's
need.
We
have
the
need
for
hundreds
of
of
units,
if
not
thousands,
of
affordable
housing.
D
But
if
we
can,
you
know,
get
pick
up
six
units
here,
six
units,
the
next
time
we
do
an
affordable.
Excuse
me:
a
market
housing
project
we'll
start
to
kind
of
chip
away
at
that
that
need.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
President.
Thank
you
both
for
being
here
the
three
of
you
for
being
here
I,
like
the
fact
that
you
got
the
six
Apartments
I
think
when
we
first
talked
about
it,
there
weren't
going
to
be
any
apartments
for
Workforce
or
affordable
housing.
That.
E
H
H
So
I,
that's
a
good
thing
now
talking
about
50,
Front,
Street
and
I
believe
that
the
Twin
Rivers
as
well
they're
sold
50
Front
Street
was
sold,
Newman
sold,
50
Front
Street
and
they
get
an
enormous
profit
from
these
sales
same
with
the
student
housing.
A
lot
of
the
student
housing
downtown
here
all
got
all
got
Pilots
under
the
Ryan
Administration
they're
sold
the
owners
get
huge
profits
in
the
city,
I
mean
if
the
pilot
goes
with
it,
which
it
which
it
should.
H
H
So
is
there
a
way
to
be
to
figure
to
figure
in
that
the
city
is
a
own
stock
and
the
company
per
se,
so
that,
if
it
is
sold
before
this
pilot
is
up
and
it'll
be
28
years,
so
I'm
assuming
it
will
be
sold
before
the
top
pilot
is
up
that
the
city
then
can
share
in
these
huge
profits.
Because
of
the
fact
that
we
are,
we
are
helping
in
the
financing.
D
The
way
that
I
look
at
these
Pilots
are
that
if
a
developer
can
can
sell
in
a
period
of
time
and
and
make
money
which
has
been
the
case
in
a
couple
of
them,
there's
been
also
developers
who
have
not
seen
the
pilot
be
as
financially
beneficial
as
they
originally
thought,
which
has
been
the
case
in
one
student
housing
development
either
way.
You
know
at
the
expiration
of
that
pilot
term.
D
D
That
pilot
is
now
expiring,
I
believe
next
year,
so
the
next
time,
not
maybe
not
for
this
budget,
but
the
next
budget
will
be
able
to
capture
that
fully
assessed
value
of
all
of
the
improvements
there.
The
the
fact
that
from
an
income
and
expense
per
purpose,
that's
a
very
valuable
property
and
we
would
normally
not
be
able
to
do
that.
D
It
would
still
be
the
half
taken
old,
Marine,
Midland
Building,
so
our
windfall
oh
in
this
is
at
the
expiration
of
these
Pilots,
because
if
we
don't
approve
the
pilot,
then
not
only
do
we
not
get
the
revenue
over
the
28-year
period.
We
also
don't
get
that
huge
amount
of
new
tax
assessments
on
the
rolls
when
the
pilot
does
expire.
H
H
It
would
look
at
the
affordable
housing
situation.
We
could
take
the
money
that
would
be
our
and
part
of
the
investment
and
give
that
to
affordable
housing.
You
could
put
that
aside
for
affordable
housing
so
that
we
we
wouldn't
have
to
wait
28
years
to
get
the
win.
You
know
I
mean
I
I.
Just
think
that
if
we're
financing
it-
and
we
are
in
essence,
financing
a
large
portion
of
it
that
we
should
share
in
any
profit
if
it
is
sold.
H
Yes,
we're
going
to
get
the
windfall
at
the
end
and
50
Front
Street
we
weren't
getting.
You
know
we're,
there's
we're
getting
zero,
and
now
we
are,
even
though
the
pilot
doesn't
run
out
for
a
long
time
we're
getting
a
lot
of
money
from
it.
There's
people
that
may
be
watching.
They
think
that
Pilots
people
don't
pay
are
paying
taxes
on
the
pilots.
They
are
a
lot
of
money
and
but
I
just
think
that
you
know
they
come
in.
E
But
also
as
part
of
this
project
course,
this
this
site
is
generating
zero
tax
dollars
now,
and
you
know
again
to
try
to
address
these
great
cost
escalations.
The
idea
of
this
pilot
Bond
was
brought
up
and
that
again
create
makes
a
project
that
wouldn't
have
otherwise
happened
in
these
difficult
development
times.
E
We've
Incorporated
that,
but
we
also
over
the
term
paying
air
rights
payments
of
over
a
million
dollars
and
also
painted
City,
nearly
two
million
dollars
and
over
two
million
dollars
to
the
for
the
school
district
and
or
400
000
to
the
county.
All
of
that
is
our
tax
payments
that
wouldn't
otherwise
have
happened,
but
the
real
essence
of
it,
though,
is
that
you
know
the
risk
factors
from
a
development
perspective
with
Boeing
in
and
doing
something
new,
it's
unproven
in
a
market
that
you
know,
we
believe
in.
E
We
think
we'll
we'll
lease
up.
We
think
it
will
do
well,
but
we
don't
know
and
all
those
risk
factors
that
the
people
that
are
putting
up
risk
Capital
up
front
and
spending
that
money
to
create
the
project.
All
of
that
is
built
into
their
incentive
to
try
to
do
it.
If
you
start
to
whittle
away
with
that
and
say
well,
you
really
don't
get
all
of
the
benefit
from
the
project,
then
it
it
starts
to
make
the
project
less
viable.
That's
really
the.
G
So,
certainly
a
point
well
taken
I,
think
to
Jeff's
point.
I
had
to
balance
the
private
benefit
on
these
things
is
is
why
we've
spent
how
many
months
together,
at
this
point,
Jeff
and
then
the
time
before
me
as
well,
worked
through
this
pilot
agreement
and
trying
to
find
a
way
that
we
could
maximize
the
benefit
for
both
parties,
but
really
to
us.
Having
this
built
is
the
ultimate
benefit,
whether
that
person
does
sell
or
not.
E
Just
wanted
to
add
also,
you
know
we're
a
United
group.
We
have
our
own
property
management
company,
we
manage
what
we
build.
We
have
a
whole
group
of
investors
that
likes
to
invest
in
our
projects
and
most
of
those
folks
are
are
long-term
holders,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
being
part
of
this
community.
You
know
another
reason
to
get
private
development
going
on
in
the
cities
that,
hopefully
it
fuels
more
development,
so
we
would
look
to
hopefully
do
more
development.
We
do
a
lot
of
senior
housing.
E
We
would
like
to
do
senior
housing
in
this
market
as
well,
and
something
else
I.
Think
generally,
just
you
know,
I
give
the
city
a
lot
of
credit
for
making
things
happen.
You
know,
Upstate
is
a
challenge
and
the
Southern
Tier
is
a
as
a
greater
challenge
that
property
values.
If
you
do
anything
in
real
estate,
you
know
about
cap
rates
and
the
lower
cap
rates
are
the
higher
the
the
value
of
the
property.
E
But
cap
rates
in
Binghamton
are
much
higher
than
they
are
in
other
markets,
which
means
the
values
are
lower
and
the
upside
opportunities
aren't
as
great
but
again
we're.
As
a
developer,
we
we
want
to
see
Upstate
develop.
E
We
want
to
see
cities
like
Binghamton
Drive,
so
so
there's
a
significant
risk
that
the
developers
are
taking,
anyone
that
is
getting
involved
in
projects
in
the
city-
and
you
know
we're
we're
getting
into
this
looking
to
be
part
of
your
community
and
being
a
resident
here
and
and
hopefully
doing
other
projects
in
the
in
the
region.
I
Councilman
strong
I
was
just
going
to
mention
that
you
know
basically
some
of
the
things
that
Sarah
and
Jeff
just
said,
but
if
this
sits
there
like
it
is
now
I
mean
we're
not
getting
anything.
Now
let
forget
the
Aesthetics
all
of
the
things
that
have
been
mentioned
is
there
anything
that
I
know
would
be
estimates,
but
that
quantifies
or
doesn't
like
a
of
what
that
means.
What
are
the
tentacles
of
that
across
the
economy?
I
Other
downtown
businesses
coming
forward,
other
small
businesses
opening
up
potentially
further
revitalization
of
downtown,
just
like
you
said,
sales
tax,
just
the
other
revenues
that
come
in
based
on
that
kind
of
you
know,
120,
that's
a
lot
of
units,
a
lot
of
families,
a
lot
of
people.
That's
a
huge
force
in
that
area.
I
E
When
we
did
Twin
River
Commons,
which
is
longer
ago
than
I
like
to
think
about
now,
but
an
economic
impact
study
was
done
at
the
time.
Just
to
really
address
that
question,
because
there
had
been
there
really
hadn't
been
much
private
development
in
the
city
and
what
just
exactly
that
question?
What
does
it
really
mean
and
they
did
look
at
things
like
sales
tax
and
attracting
new
workers
into
the
City
and
attracting
new
businesses
into
the
city?
E
So
you
have
people
like
for
Twin
River
for
Binghamton,
University's,
downtown
Center
and
then
now
they're
incubated,
the
Investments
they're,
making
supporting
that
those
businesses
and
creating
additional
development.
I
think
really
attracting
new
businesses
into
the
city
is
a
and
retaining
young
professional
people.
I
think
that
is
really
the
greatest
part
of
the
incentive
that
you're
providing
the
kind
of
housing.
E
So
if
you
go
to
a
Boston
and
you
look
at
the
kind
of
housing
that
young
people
are
looking
for
and
that's
why
young
people,
young
professionals
are
going
to
those
areas
and
for
an
Upstate
Community
to
have
something
like
that,
it's
a
great
advantage
and
I
think
that's
the
largest
part
of
it
is
really
supporting
the
young
professional
that
you
want
to
attract
and
retain
here
and
then
the
other
businesses
that
then
will
come
here
additionally,
but
certainly
in
terms
of
restaurants
and
sales,
tax
revenue
and
all
the
other
activity
going
on
in
the
city.
E
There
are
Economic
Development
studies
that
can
be
done.
We
did,
as
I
said,
we
did
the
one
for
for
Twin
River
Commons,
but-
and
it
was
significant
I
think
it
was
really
helpful
in
gaining
support
for
that
project.
G
Just
want
to
throw
out
there
that
we
miss
you
pretty
early
I
know
council's
got
a
different
schedule
this
month,
so
you're
not
voting
till
the
end
of
the
month.
There's
several
other
public
meetings.
We
have
to
take
this
to
the
county
and
the
Ida
and
the
school
board,
so
other
opportunities
to
learn
more
about
this
project,
and
we
encourage
you
guys
to
reach
out
with
questions
get
those
to
Janine
and
we
can
get
those
answers.
E
A
This
time,
I'd
like
to
ask
kentretees
to
join
us
for
RL
23-124.
A
Evening,
Ken,
how
are
you
well
good
to
see
you?
Thank
you
for
joining
us
10th
floor
is
yours.
C
All
right,
thanks
for
having
me
tonight,
I'm
here
tonight,
to
see
about
extending
the
benefits
that
the
veterans
have
so
there's
some
veterans
who
work
for
the
city
as
you're,
probably
aware,
and
sometimes
those
veterans
get
deployed,
I've
called
them
back
duty
and
when
they
do
so
in
the
past
has
been
that
the
city
provides
makes
up
the
difference
between
the
military
pay
that
they
receive,
while
they
are
deployed
compared
to
what
they
make
would
have
been
making
for
the
city,
because
there's
a
difference,
there's
a
gap
between
those
two
things:
oftentimes
there
is,
and
that's
that's
what
this
resolution
is
for.
C
It's
is
to
extend
that,
because
it's
been
in
practice
for
the
last
five
years
and
so
we're
looking
to
that
that
expired
on
the
30th
and
we're
just
looking
to
extend
that
too,
so
that
we
could
continue
that
practice
as
of
right
now,
there
is
one
person
that
this
applies
to.
A
A
discussion
can
really
quickly
because
reading
through
the
URL
looks
like
there's
a
back
date
that
that's
kind
of
coming
into
this
yeah.
Is
there
an
expedition
request
for
this
because
of
that
back
date
or.
A
A
Right:
yeah,
okay,
all
right,
I'll,
Adam
clerk.
Could
we
please
expedite
RL
23-124
to
Wednesday,
please
thank
you
any
other
discussion.
A
J
All
right,
Earl,
23,
126.
I've,
been
here
before,
asking
for
the
reverse:
to
go
from
reader
to
repairman.
Now
we're
going
back
from
repairman
to
reader.
J
We
currently
have
someone
who
is
willingly
applied
to
be
the
new
water
meter
reader.
We
have
two
repairmen
who
are
doing
a
fine
job,
keeping
up
with
the
pace
and
demands,
and
we
have
one
meter
reader
who
is
beyond
exceptional.
J
J
F
Thank
you,
president
scrunchie
hi
Jeff.
How
are
you
good?
How
are
you
good
are
so
you
said
this
quickly,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
I
maybe
missed
it,
but
are
are
either
of
these
positions.
Currently
vacant
or
no
both
are
vacant.
Okay,
so
this
is
we're
reshuffling
funds
to
have
the
appropriate
pay
grade
for
the
someone
who's
starting
halfway
through
the
year
am
I
understanding
that
correctly,
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
J
This
one's
a
little
more
complicated.
This
goes
back
to
the
contract
negotiations
that
we
did
in
the
beginning
of
the
year
or
the
end
of
last
year
with
the
honorable
Sharon
Sorkin.
One
of
the
directives
that
we
had
was
to
move
some
of
the
lower
positions
up.
I
was
the
director
from
the
mayor
looking
at
some
of
the
lower
paid
grades
and
what
we
can
do
with
them.
J
The
Department
of
Water
and
Sewer
have
used
laborers
in
this
position.
All
of
the
Departments
have
upgraded
their
base
worker
to
a
different
title.
This
puts
this
in
puts
it
in
parody
with
the
other
departments
and
what
they've
done
in
the
past.
J
It's
not
a
huge
increase,
but
it
does
affect
what
moves
in
eight
positions
when
it's
fully
staffed
right
now.
This
will
affect
five
people
three
and
Sewer
two
in
water.
J
We
just
got
the
approval
through
civil
service
to
make
this
a
non-competitive,
non-tested
job
that
took
about
four
months
to
get
their
approval,
so
this
has
been
brewing
since
the
contract
was
settled
in
January,
because
this
is
one
of
the
promises
we
had
made
to
the
guys
during
contract
negotiations
that
we
would
get
this
pushed
through.
We
have
the
Union's
approval
on
this.
We
now
have
civil
services
blessing.
Yours
is
next
step
in
making
this
change.
J
This
job
title
covers
the
directive
of
the
mayor
to
look
at
some
of
the
lower
paying
jobs
and
bump
them
up
accordingly,
and
also
to
look
at
what
people
are
doing
when
they
work
for
us.
Are
they
seeking
some
form
of
advancement?
Are
they
idly
staying
in
the
lowest
position,
with
no
responsibilities
and
just
kind
of
coasting
throughout
their
time?
The
idea
is
to
try
to
steer
away
from
the
coasting
and
to
have
more
focused
promotions,
and
this
job
does
exactly
that.
J
It
tells
them
what
they
need
for
their
next
step
in
advancement.
I
dropped
the
requirements
for
that
upper
step.
Earlier
in
the
year
from
five
to
three
years,
they
must
have
their
CDLs
and
they
must
also,
or
Waterside
at
least,
must
have
their
distribution,
New,
York
state
water
license.
J
F
F
J
A
bunch
of
sad
stories
and
long
things.
This
is
part
of
the
process,
we're
going
into
budget
another
month
or
two
here,
and
this
will
be
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
discuss
on
what
the
long-term
strategy
is
going
to
be
to
keep
it
sustainable.
F
Appreciate
your
honesty,
but
yeah
I
mean
it
sounds
like
you
know,
I
like
the
sound
of
it
in
terms
of
the
Union's
approval
and
room
for
advancement
and
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
I
I
always
want
to
make
sure
our
city
employees
are
paid
fairly,
though.
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank.
A
K
The
this
is
the
thing
we
do
every
year
with
the
annual
action
flood
annual
action
plan
for
the
HUD
entitlement
grants.
This
includes
cdbg,
home
and
ESG
money.
It's
two
point
something
million
between
all
three.
So
this
is
the
mayor's
proposed
budget.
This
should
follow
up
with
the
cdac
recommendation
recommended
budget
from
several
weeks
ago,
and
once
this
is
approved,
we'll
be
able
to
submit
this
to
HUD.
The
deadline
for
submitting
is
to
HUD
is
July
15th.
K
There
does
need
to
be
a
regulatory
required
hello,
a
regularly
required
public
hearing,
but
we
have
enough
time
in
the
city
council
schedule
process
to
meet
yeah
I
think
this
is
fine.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
you're.
Okay,
all
right!
So
if
you
schedule
public
hearing
Wednesday
for
the
following
Wednesday,
the
following
public
hearing
or
a
business
meeting,
and
then
the
business
meeting
after
that
vote,
that
should
be
the
12th
I
believe
of
July,
and
that
should
be
enough
time
to
meet
this.
A
Oh
I'm,
sorry
Michael,
thank
you
for
that
at
this
time,
I
just
want
to
follow
up
with
any
additional
discussion
points
in
relation
to
code
enforcement
officers
that
was
requested
at
the
at
the
last
business
meeting
and
we're
actually,
if
he
is
okay
with
it,
I'll
ask
mayor
cram
to
join
us
before
this
follow-up
discussion.
So
that
way,
if
anyone
has
any
questions
or
would
like
any
additional
follow-up
from
the
mayor
himself,
he's
obviously
here
to
facilitate
that,
and
we
appreciate
that.
Thank
you,
Mark.
F
Thank
you,
president
gringy,
so
I
I
don't
know
that
I
have
a
like
a
question
per
se,
but
you
know
the
the
vote.
At
our
last
meeting,
salary
Department
officers
was
kind
of
contentious
and
I
I.
Think
that
I
I,
don't
remember
my
my
exact
words
at
the
meeting,
but
I
you
know
the
the
sentiment
was
that
it
was
kind
of
I.
Think
it
was
It
was
a
presented
as
People's
Choice,
where
it's
like
we
can.
F
We
can
either
have
the
appropriate
number
of
Code
Enforcement
Officers
to
meet
the
demand
or
we
can
pay
our
Code
Enforcement
Officers
an
appropriate
amount
of
money
and
I.
Don't
think
that
it
has
to
be
that
way.
I
think
we
can
have
our
cake
and
eat
it
too.
You
know
we.
We
talk
a
lot
about
how
healthy
our
fund
balance
is,
and
that's
wonderful,
I
mean
that's
great.
F
It's
it's
really
not
that
much
money
like
a
lot
of
times,
I
think
we
dip
into
the
fund
balance
with
like
millions
of
dollars
for
for
infrastructure
projects.
Here's
a
an
opportunity
to
spend
really
not
that
much
money
to
make
an
incredible
difference
in
the
lives
of
the
the
residents.
Clearly,
there's
a
demonstrated
need
for
eight
all
eight
code
enforcement
officers,
and
so
I
I
think
that
we
should
have
all
eight.
F
They
should
be
compensated
more
than
they
have
been
in
the
past
and
I
think
that
this
would
be
an
appropriate
place
and
time
to
dip
into
our
general
fund.
For
for
that,
that's
that's
my
opinion
and
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
work
together
to
make
that
happen.
Thank.
H
Thanks
and
I
appreciate
the
mayor
coming
down,
so
I
assume
that
that
you
saw
in
our
discussion
yep
from
last
week,
not
all
of
it,
but
most
of
it,
okay,
yeah,
but
you
know
my
concern
is
that
if
we
put
off
putting
these
folks
back
in
the
budget-
and
we
do
it
at
budget
time
that
it's
then
sometime
next
year-
and
it
is
difficult
to
find
people
after
we
post
it
to
find
people
that
are
qualified
for
this
work,
that
it
would
be
almost
a
year
before
the
the
they're
filled
and
my
and
and
to
tell
the
citizens
of
Binghamton
that
we're
actually
cutting
this
department.
H
Where
most
of
the
calls
I
get
our
code,
you
know,
and
we
as
a
body
we're
talking
about
things
that
we
could
help
with
the
code
Department.
H
D
Look
I
I
agree
with
with
both
members
of
council
when
I
was
going
door
to
door.
The
two
things
I
heard
about
were
crime
and
code
enforcement,
and
sometimes
depending
on
the
neighborhood
code,
was
first
so
I,
don't
have
any
moral
opposition
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
has
happened,
kind
of
since
we
sat
down
with
code
talked
through
the
salary
increases,
is
that
we
have
right
now.
D
You
know
with
the
higher
salaries
being
posted,
we
have
a
vacancy
and
building
inspector
who's,
not
that
isn't
really
to
code
enforcement
like
High
Grass
shipping
paint
dilapidated,
but
is
a
reviewing
of
building
permits,
Etc
the
electrical
inspector,
which
obviously
reviews
all
electrical
work
in
the
city
and
then
we
had
do
have
posted
the
code
inspector
position
at
the
higher
salary.
D
What
I
would
like
to
see
is
because
you
know
with
all
humility
the
plan
that
I
that
I
had
my
first
year
here
with
hey:
let's
add
two
positions:
let's
expand
capacity:
let's
because
the
salaries
weren't
high
enough,
we
didn't
see
any
qualified
applicants
so
I'd
like
to
see
we
have
an
opening
code
inspector
position
right
now.
D
Let's
see
what
the
qualified
applicants
we
get
for,
that
we
can
work
quickly
with
city
council
I'm,
not
saying
that
we
have
to
wait
until
the
budget
process.
I
think
that's
the
last.
That's
the
latest
that
I'd
want
to
move
on
on
restoring
positions
or
adding
positions,
but
let's
give
crit.
You
know
it
was
just
approved
a
couple
weeks
ago:
let's,
let's
give
Chris
schleider
and
Personnel
an
opportunity
to
fill
a
couple
of
these
positions
and
we
can
revisit
it
prior
to
the
budget
process.
D
I
think
you
know
in
terms
of
utilizing
fund
balance,
you
know
mid-year.
We
can
maybe
look
for
some
other
revenue
streams,
but
nonetheless
say
that
hey
we
want
to
get
these
people
hired,
get
them
trained
and
not
wait
till
April
of
next
year
to
to
have
them
on
board
so
I'm
I'm,
fine
with
that
I
I,
just
would
would
say
that
let's
give
it
a
month
and
see
what
we
get
in
terms
of
applicants.
D
I
think
the
other
question
mark
that
we
have
too
is
that,
given
the
Dynamics
of
some
changing
law
and
some
changing
ways
that
the
courts
would
like
to
see
us
prosecute
these
cases,
we
may
have
a
need
for
code
inspectors.
We
also
may
not
need
have
a
need
for
like
a
paralegal
type
position
that
facilitates
the
service
of
these
documents.
To
to
folks
who
may
be
out
of
town.
Do
we
you
know,
do
we
need
another
administrative
person,
or
do
we
serve
best
by
having
two
additional
people
in
the
field?
D
D
Don't
don't
want
to
wait
necessarily
till
the
budget
process,
but
we
can
maybe
plan
in
a
couple
work
sessions
to
have
Chris
give
an
update
on
how
her
things
are
going.
Is
that
fair,
yeah
and
then
go
from
there.
F
Thank
you,
president
grungy
I
I
hear
what
you're
saying
mayor
and
I
I.
You
know
I.
F
I
understand
in
in
the
spirit
of
being
fiscally
conservative
right.
We
don't
want
to
take
from
the
fund
balance
in
the
middle
of
the
year.
If
we
don't
know
that
you
know
a
position
is
going
to
be
filled
at
that
price
point,
I,
guess
or
salary
point
the
the
thing
that
makes
me
that
gives
me
pause
or
actually
the
opposite.
The
thing
that
makes
this
feel
particularly
urgent
is
that
you
know
we.
C
F
In
my
conversations
with
Chris
Schneider,
even
in
you
know
with
like
proposals
that,
in
my
mind,
were
you
know
not
particularly
large
or
involved
a
lot
of
change
that
a
consistent
response
that
I
heard
was
we're
operating
at
capacity.
We
can't
possibly
add
any
new
type
of
program
or
anything
because
we're
100
at
capacity,
and
so
if,
if
the
code
department
is
operating
at
complete
capacity
to
the
point
that
it
like
there's
zero
wiggle
room,
it
makes
me
nervous
to
to
stay.
F
This
feels
urgent
to
me,
like
you
said,
I
I
as
well
receive
most
calls
about
code
and
I.
You
know
there.
There
is
value
in
having
a
robust
legal
structure
to
in
terms
of
you
know,
Prosecuting
absentee
landlords
and
slumlords,
and
things
like
that.
But
some
of
these
positions,
like
a
code
inspector,
is
part
of
the
prevention
of
those
issues.
In
the
first
place.
You
know
if,
if
we're
Prosecuting
absentee
landlords,
that
means
that
there
has
been
enough
complaints
that
have
been
there
outstanding
for
a
long
time
and
that
translates
to
displaced
people.
F
You
know
that's
housing,
that's
sitting
there
and
and
while
I
think
that
Prosecuting
landlords
is,
you
know,
absentee
landlord.
Slumlord
is
an
important
part.
I.
Don't
think
that
we
would
that
it
would
behoove
us
to
spend
more
money
in
that
aspect
when,
right
now
we
we
have
the
structure
built
for
you
know
these
positions
already.
F
So
that's
my
my
my
hesitancy
with
just
you
know,
kind
of
waiting
and
and
seeing
how
it
works
out.
D
Yeah,
no
matter
what
the
city
is
doing
as
it
relates
to
housing
violations,
it's
ultimately
prosecuted
by
the
office
of
Corporation
Council
right.
So
even
if
someone
is
a
first-time
offender
chip
paint
they're
served
a
notice
of
violation.
They
have
a
certain
amount
of
days
to
cure
and
I
don't
want
to
explain
things
that
everybody
knows
here,
but
sometimes
it
helps
me
and
then
a
reinspection
is
done,
and
then,
if
that
re-inspection,
the
work
is
not
completed,
which
is
really
the
issue
of
code
right.
D
D
There's
garbage
in
my
neighbor's
front
lawn,
what's
happening
you,
those
do
require
other
legal
means,
and
so
you
could
have
15
inspectors
all
on
board
all
going
out
in
the
city,
but
if
you
still
have
a
bottleneck
at
the
legal
side
of
things
or
the
preparation,
even
to
bring
things
to
trial
or
to
serve
notices,
summonses
appearance
tickets,
you
know
organizing
that
then
we'll
still
have
a
similar
outcome,
and
so
what,
as
I
said
before
you
know
what
I
had
thought
and
to
try
to
boost
the
actual
personnel
and
code?
D
Maybe
the
reason
was
because
the
salaries
were
too
low
and
we
were
not
getting.
You
know
capable
people,
but
I
think
it's
probably
a
combination.
So
why
don't
we
do
this
because
I
said
I
said
two
meetings?
What
about
if,
at
the
next
work
session,
we
get
some
details,
hopefully
about
applicants
to
the
to
the
open
position
and
talk
about
I'll,
get
a
little
bit
more
from
Chris
in
terms
of
immediate
needs
and
what
he
would
like
to
see
and
I.
D
Think
part
of
it,
too
is
we'll,
have
a
little
bit
more
clarity
and
discussion
with
Council
about
maybe
some
ways
to
improve
the
back
end
back
office
side
of
things,
and
we
can.
We
can
bring
it
up
more.
We
can
bring
it
up
quicker
because
I
don't
disagree
with
anything.
That's
being
said,
I
I,
don't
and
again
to
your
point.
Councilmember
Friedman
in
the
scope
of
a
100
million
dollar
budget.
F
Thank
you
if
I
could
just
add
one
more
thing
that
that
actually
just
occurred
to
me.
I
know
that
a
few
years
ago
we
were
having
committee
meetings
talking
about
code,
The,
Code
Department
in
general
and
in
the
spirit
of
prevention,
I,
wonder
if
also
a
position
that
might
be
worth
creating
and
funding
would
be
a
you
know
dissimilar
to
a
paralegal.
But
someone
like
an
administrative
position
that
would
be
in
charge
of
the
the
rental
registry.
That's
on
the
books.
F
You
know
we
do
technically
have
a
rental
registry
in
our
city
code.
My
understanding
is
it's
kind
of
not
work.
You
know
it's
sort
of
like
on
the
on
the
books,
but
not
functional,
and
that
seems
to
me
like
prevent
you
know.
They
say
what
What's
that
that
saying
and
an
ounce
of
prevention
is
worth
a
pound
of
cure.
You
know
if
we
had
something
like
a
requirement
of
a
certificate
of
occupancy.
F
That
would
do
wonders
in
terms
of
freeing
up.
You
know
labor,
like
human
power
and
and
prosecution.
If
we
had
something
like
a
certificate
of
occupancy
so
that
land
landlords
would
have
to
have
their
properties
up
to
code
before
someone
was
able
to
move
in
instead
of
having
tenants
who
then
are
bopping
around
right
being
displaced,
we
know
40
of
families
that
have
students
within
the
school
district
move
within
one
school
year.
That's
a
lot
and
I
think
some
kind
of
preventative
administrative
positions
might
be
worth
considering
funding
as
well.
H
You
know
I
was
just
wondering
if
it's
possible
for
Chris
and
personnel,
even
though
these
positions
aren't
funded
in
the
budget,
but
to
keep
an
eye
out
for
somebody
anyway.
In
case
they
we
might
get
lucky
somebody's
seas
that
we're
looking
for
someone
and
then
we
could
fund
it.
You
know
we
find
this
great
person
and
then
we
we
could
you.
D
Know
you
see
what
I'm
saying
I'd
hope
for
an
internal
applicant
think
about
this.
If
we're
talking
about
codeine
or
code
inspector
who's
going
to
be
out
in
neighborhoods
someone
who
came
from
the
sanitation
division,
who
may
have
the
background
and
construction
or
something
who
could
otherwise
qualify
it
qualify
for
it?
There's
aren't
folks
who
are
out
in
neighborhoods
more
that
are
seeing
what's
going
on
and
have
knowledge
of
them
than
are
garbage
men
and
women.
D
So
I
I
think
that
internal
applicants
with
the
salary
being
bumped
up,
make
it
attractive
and
then
we'll
see
from
an
out
outside
applicant
perspective.
You
know
what
we
have
and
the
answer
may
very
well
be
mayor.
We've
got
three
incredibly
qualified
people
that
could
be
great
start
to
our
team.
There's
probably
your
answer
right.
There.
A
Sounds
great,
thank
you
all
very
much.
Thank
you
mayor
for
joining
us
anything
for
Madam
clerk
on
pending
legislation.