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A
Yeah
good
evening
it
is
Tuesday
September
27th,
just
after
six
o'clock
and
we
are
convening
the
meeting
of
the
cdac
we'll
take
attendance.
Can
we
go
around
the
table
and
just
say
our
name
I
think!
That's
it
now
now
that
we're
in
person,
starting
with
Deb.
A
D
C
C
D
A
A
A
I
I
myself
wish
to
just
inform
the
committee
I'm
going
to
add
a
section
in
here,
so
this
represents
the
one
I
sent
out
was
a
cdbg
for
service
and
capital
programs.
I
The
ESG
one's
similar
enough
I
didn't
feel
like
needing
to
print
it
out
as
well.
It's
close
enough,
but
it
has
the
ESG
requirements
due
to
some
issues
with
some
agencies.
I'm
going
to
explicitly
spell
out
in
this
application
that
starting
on
capital
projects
is
not
allowed
until
the
environmental
review
is
done.
This
is
a
HUD
requirement.
It
is
probably
one
of
the
strictest
HUD
environments
or
regulations.
There
are
they
simply
you
put
a
hammer
in
a
wall
for
a
capital
project.
You
want
funded
with
HUD.
I
If
the
err
is
not
allowed,
the
entire
project
is
ineligible
for
cdbg,
so
this
is
just.
This
is
HUD
101,
but,
as
I
said,
it's
probably
the
most,
it's
the
strictest
regulation
and
unfortunately,
in
the
last
few
years,
I
did
a
calculation
and
I
think
I
even
mentioned
that
the
councilman
Riley
at
a
previous
meeting
we've
had
almost
over
200
thousand
dollars
in
programs
that
were
can't
that
were
denied
because
of
agencies.
Moving
ahead
before
the
environmental
review
is
done
now
somebody
brought
up
a
question
of
what
happens
to
those
funds.
I
I
So,
if
you
guys
had
some
other
suggestions
that
you
want
to
thrown
in
here
for
anything,
let's
go
for
it.
We
can
absolutely
update
this
and
modify
it
and
I'll
try
to
even
get
it
to
contract
and
Supply
by
tomorrow,
and
then
hope
we
will
be
able
to
get
the
applications
out
Friday.
So
that's
kind
of
the
point
of
the
whole
RFP
discussion
process.
I
I
I
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
I,
do
the
environmental
review.
I
can
tell
you,
from
past
experience
and
including
working
with
the
state
cdbg
program
for
environmental
reviews,
you're
looking
at
a
minimum
30
days
for
any
Capital
project
and
with
the
new
updates
to
the
fish
and
wildlife
service
I'm.
Looking
at
two
months,
minimum
for
environmental
reviews
and
unfortunately,
some
agencies
don't
understand
that
there
is
delay,
even
if
I
start
tomorrow,
that
it
does
take
a
while.
I
Typically,
the
things
that
stretch
it
out
belong
us
are
the
historical
review
and
then
the
the
Endangered
Species
Act
situation.
I
guess
this
is
a
time
to
speak
about
this.
So
for
capital
projects
in
the
city
Binghamton.
We
must
determine
whether
it
have
an
impact
on
endangered
species.
So
pretty
much.
I
The
entire
Southern
half
of
the
city
has
a
potential
for
the
endangered
species,
Northern
long-ear
bat,
so
that
means
fish
and
wildlife
service
has
to
approve
any
Capital
project
there
and
they're
the
ones
that
they're
looking
at
60
days
of
delay
because
they're
backed
up
and
they
don't
have
enough
staff.
So
does
this
mean
we
should
shift
projects
to
the
northern
part
of
the
city
unknown?
I
If
there's
a
time
crunch,
you
can't
you
can't
rush
errors.
Unfortunately,
so
that's
just
kind
of
the
nature
of
the
Beast,
the
other
one
is
shippo.
Shippo
has
to
approve
any
projects
in
case,
there's
a
potential
historical
impact
and
that's
handled
through
our
historical
planner
who.
C
I
Historical
planner,
who
submits
that
to
the
Chris
system
through
shippo
at
the
state
for
approval,
and
that
generally
takes
30
days,
but
can
sometimes
be
quicker.
Everything
else
is
usually
pretty
simple:
we
try
to
avoid
doing
projects
in
the
preliminary
100
Year
floodplain
because
they
have
issues
the
500-year
the
500
year.
I
Preliminary
floodplain
is
not
a
big
deal
as
long
as
it's
not
like
a
hospital
and
other
than
that,
as
long
as
they're
not
near
a
contaminated
spot,
a
contaminated
toxic
site
or
something
or
trying
to
think
what
else
could
potentially
have
an
impact.
Nothing
I
can
think
of
those
are
generally
the
ones
that
drag
it
out.
The
longest.
I
I'm
sorry,
I
I,
live
and
breathe
in
a
world
of
letters,
so
I
do
apologize.
That
is
the
state
historical
preservation
office.
Thank
you,
there's
also
thippo,
which
is
the
tribal
historical
preservation
office,
which
I'm
not
sure
when
any
shippo
project
becomes
a
thippo
project,
but
that's
what
we
pay
Sean
for
in
the
planning
office.
A
Okay,
thank
you
Steve.
When
we
do
have
the
capital
presentations,
can
this
be
made
very
clear?
Can
we
have
a
sheet
that
will
maybe
somehow
summarize
all
of
this,
so
that
we
can
help
you
reinforce
this
with
those
people
are.
A
A
B
B
The
more
information
given
to
the
agencies
and
also
the
public
that
they
serve,
that
there
won't
be
any
questions.
Obviously
there
will,
because
this
is
brand
new
right,
but
I
think
the
more
information
we
can
provide
would
be
the
best
and.
E
I
I
do
want
to
just
make
sure
everyone
understands
the
the
projects
we're
starting
now
is
for
the
next,
the
next
program
year,
which
will
start
September
1st
2023
and
run
until
the
end
of
August
2024..
So
there
is
a
bit
of
a
lead
time
here
and
this
counts
for
both
service
programs
for
cdbg
and
ESG,
as
well
as
the
capital
projects
themselves.
So
just
so
everyone's
aware
of
the
of
the
of
the
the
time
period
for
this
contracts,
we're
working
on
okay,.
H
You
chair
of
the
committee,
so
let's
go
around,
we
implemented
some
new
processes
where
the
people
were
able
to
secure
meetings
individually
with
you,
and
then
there
was
the
period
I
think
where
we
had
a
listening
session
as
well.
Is
that
remember
we
added
two
new
steps.
I
think.
Do
you
guys
remember.
I
I
I
I've
done
that
in
years
past,
but
everything's
been
so
messy
with
kova.
That
I
have
not
done
it
recently,
but
I
can
certainly
do
that
here
and
we
can
work
that
into
the
budget
or
to
the
time
process,
so
that
I,
if
we,
if
so
let's
say
rfps,
go
out,
Friday
I
could
in
two
weeks
do
a
sort
of
an
instructional
course
and
then
that
might
help.
I
And
then
you
guys
can
go
from
there
with
your
schedule
on
where
you
want
applications
returned
with
enough
turnaround
time
for
them
to
do
a
presentation
and
so
on,
but
yeah
I
can
do
it.
So
you're
saying
like
I
well,
I've
been
wanting
to.
H
Do
that
the
thoughts
of
the
committee,
because
I
found
out
that
organizations
in
the
community
that
may
have
felt
this
process
too
daunting?
We're
able
to
then
ask
questions
of
Steve
to
hear
from
others
and
then
propose
their
ideas
individually
and
then
prepare
a
more
robust
packet
and
I
think
we
had
a
number
of
much
more
packets
that
go
around
than
we've
seen
in
years.
H
Prior,
so
I
would
I
I
think
that
was
valuable
and
although
it
lengthened
the
calendar
quite
a
bit,
and
especially
when
you
had
to
listen
to
all
of
those
presentations,
it
helped
diversify
the
application
and
the
organizations
we
supported.
H
H
So
I
think
again,
whatever
makes
it
easier
for
you,
but
I
do
think.
Having
that
open
format
where
the
the
process
is
discussed
and
remember,
last
year
you
had
the
calendar
too
yeah.
You
just
had
to
go
back
and
revise
it,
so
they
knew
what
their
goals
were
based
upon,
that
meeting
yeah
and
then
they
were
able
to
come
back
and
then
schedule
additional
appointments
as
necessary.
So
no
I'm
not
asking
that
we
change
it,
but
I
do
think
it
was
very
beneficial
to.
A
A
I
Mean
technically
the
calendar
nor
the
RFP
needs
a
formal
vote,
but
your
recommendation,
especially
if
it's
approved
by
the
majority
of
cdac,
it's
helpful
for
me
to
know
so,
but
I
would
say,
if
you're
going
to
do
like
this
approval
with.
If
there's
anything
else,
you
want
to
throw
in
there
first.
Let's
do
that.
Maybe
do
it
as
one
vote
for
the
entire
RFP
as.
A
I
Would
encourage
I'll
do
it
as
a
zoom
meeting
and
I
do
encourage
cdac
members
and,
of
course,
council
members
to
attend,
because
it
may
be
some
eye-opening
on
what
what
is
necessary
for
for
certain
projects.
Okay,.
I
I
A
A
I
A
So
I
take
it
that
there's
no
discussion
on
the
updates
to
the
RFP
anyone
has
any
suggestions
anywhere.
A
G
B
My
only
concern
was
not
to
lengthen
the
calendar
with
the
training
session.
I
think
that's
just
part
of
our
calendar,
but
I
don't
think
it
would
necessitate
lengthening
that
because
we
are
on
a
very
tight
schedule.
No.
I
A
G
Okay,
I
have
something:
I
was
looking
at
it,
I,
don't
know
if
I
read
it
wrong,
but
it
looks
like
that
message
went
out
on
September
21st
and
then
you
want
to
response
by
September
27th.
Is
that
correct.
I
I
Generally,
we
like
to
give
everybody
a
month,
because
that's
an
easy
thing
to
remember
one
month
from
now,
and
then
you
have
to
give
me
a
few
days,
preferably
a
week
to
get
your
packets
together
before
I
can
hand
them
over
to
you
so
you're
looking
five
to
six
weeks,
but
if
you
want
to
stretch
that
out
to
give
agencies
a
longer
time
to
respond,
we
absolutely
can
well.
D
A
I
Friday
would
be
the
30th,
so
you
assume
return
around
time
in
return
would
essentially
be
Halloween
and
then
a
week
after
would
be
the
7th
I
potentially
could
have
everything
ready
by
the
4th
of
November.
Does
that
feel
comfortable
for
everybody.
A
I
Yeah
something
that
just
done
on
me
and
I
do
want
to
apologize
because
I
completely
forgot
about
this.
The
rfps
are
returned
to
contract
and
Supply
which
meets
on
a
Wednesday.
Does
anybody
know
when
the
31st
and
now
the
31st
is
not?
That's
like
the
30th
is
Monday
yeah?
A
I
City
yeah,
so
the
process
for
anyone
who's
never
been
the
contract
and
Supply
before
is
it's
these
like
rfps
or
any
sort
of
application,
or
quote
on
the
thing
is
due
by
a
certain
period
of
time,
so
we
can
get
on
the
con,
the
board
of
contract
and
Supply.
They
accept
them.
Officially,
it
gets
recorded
in
the
minutes
and
then
basically,
I
get
basically
a
dolly
stacked
with
applications
that
I
then
wheel
up
to
my
office
so
and.
I
I
I
Lot
I
can't
guarantee
that
I'm
sorry
but
yeah,
it's
yeah,
that's
that's
a
fun
day.
I'll
tell
you
that
and.
I
A
And
we
love
you
for
it.
So.
I
So
but
yeah
I
can
I
could
have
them
out
by
the
fourth,
basically
dropped
off
yep
I.
A
A
I
Okay,
so
let
me
just
double
check
that
we're
talking
about
they're
gonna
go
out
by
the
30th
they're
going
to
be
in
by
the
what
did
I
say
the
second,
so
9
30,
11,
2
I'll
have
to
have
a
session
somewhere
in
between
and
then,
although
they'll
have
them
available
by
the
fourth
end
of
day.
The
fourth
and
again
you
can
pick
them
up
or
I
can
drop
them
off.
I
I
There
was
a
suggestion
of
some
digital
copies
that,
instead
of
having
everybody
make
a
copy,
you
know
the
number
of
copies
that
has
made
is
based
off
the
number
of
potential
cdac
members
which
is
11
plus
me,
the
mayor
city
council
as
a
whole,
and
it
has
been
discussed
that
we
should
include
the
additional
two
ex-fisio
members,
so
that
would
be
16
copies.
A
That
is
a
lot
of
paper.
Are
you
counting
the
ex
officio
twice.
I
To
the
clerk,
so
what
does
anyone
feel
about
possibly
not
having
a
paper
back
up
and
having
a
digital
copy
of
the
application?
I.
E
A
E
I
I
Yeah,
we're
always
well
well.
Basically,
I
would
ask
the
agency
to
supply
a
paper
cup.
Okay,
so
I
can
ask
for
the
digital
copy
either
submitted
through
email
or
through
email,
flash
drive
or
possibly
a
burn
disk.
You.
I
No
no
I'm,
saying
I
would
have
a
certain
amount
of
paper
copies
for
the
people
that
want
paper
copies,
including
me,
the
mayor's
office
official
in
the
city
council,
official.
Anyone
who
wants
a
digital
copy
only
I'll
just
ask
for
a
digital
backup,
so
I
just
need
to
know
how
many
paper
copies
to
ask
for
within
the
application.
If
that
makes
sense,.
A
I
And
then
I
will
need
to
copy
the
official
one
for
the
mayor's
office
official
one
for
city
council,
who
is
not
here
from
cdac
Austin
and
Ciccone
I'm
gonna
assume
paper
for
them,
because
I
don't
want
to
assume
otherwise
exactly
and
then
the
other
ex-officio,
so
that
would
be
11
copies
from
the
agency,
so
that's
saving
five
copies
times,
24
25
or
more
agencies
that
can
save
a
lot
of
paper
by
doing
that.
So,
okay,
if
you
guys
want
make
sure
you
make
sure
you
guys
are
good
with
that.
A
A
I
A
I
No
I'll
run
through
it.
If
there's
no
other
updates,
no
everybody
good.
Okay.
So
let's
see
what
I've
got
this
things
are
going
to
go
out
tonight.
Hopefully,
oh
I
hope
this
works.
Okay,
they're
gonna
go
out.
September
30th
they'll,
be
due
in
by
the
2nd
of
November
I'm
going
to
have
a
training
session
in
between
during
the
weekday
on
Zoom
I
will
have
them
available
for
everyone
on
the
fourth,
either
for
pickup
or
drop
off.
I
Just
let
me
know
we
are
going
to
have
an
update
in
here
on
the
err
process.
It'll
be
a
little
blurb
in
the
RFP
itself,
but
I
will
also
talk
about
it
during
the
training
session.
I
Let's
see,
I
will
record
the
training
session
and,
although
it's
not
part
of
the
RFP
before
contracts
are
picked
up,
also
do
have
a
pre-contract
session
to
talk
about
reporting
and
and
reimbursement
requirements
as
well,
which,
again,
during
the
day
Zoom
you
guys
are
welcome
to
join
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
for
11
copies
and
a
digital.
We
used
to
do
digital
or
I,
had
them
and
I
stopped
doing
that,
but
we'll
bring
it
back
with
digital,
either
by
email
or
something
I'm.
I
Gonna
say
in
the
case
where
an
agency
misses
this.
I
can
make
a
digital
copy
just
by
scanning
it
in
I
would
rather
they
Supply
it,
though
it
just
makes
it
easier,
and
so
that's
the
updates,
I'm
saying
to
hear
other
than
all
the
standard
modify
the
dates
of
the
contract
periods
modify.
You
know,
update
all
the
numbers
and
stuff
like
that,
which
is
standard.
A
Okay,
does
anyone
have
anything
else
to
add
I.
F
Have
a
question:
yes:
are
these
funds
restricted
in
any
way
that
are
going
to
be
on
this
RFP?
Is
this
for
any
and
everything
that
they
might
apply
for
from
HUD.
I
So,
generally,
the
so
that
there's
there's
two
grants
that
they
apply
for
one
is
the
ESG
which
is
a
homeless
Grant.
That's
also
required
that
has
additional
requirements
that
they
be
on
the
COC
and
some
other
steps
too.
It's
much
more
restrictive,
cdbg
is
done
for
both
program
services
and
capital
projects
and
honestly
sky
is
the
limit.
The
main
issue
is
that
the
programs
or
the
capital
projects
need
to
help
predominantly
low-income
people
or
serve
a
low-income
area
or
serve
a
limited
clientele.
For
example.
I
Seniors
or
trying
to
my
mind,
went
blank
seniors
are
the
one
I
always
go
to
so
you,
those
are
the
requirements
and
that's
within
the
RFP.
That's
within
the
project.
The
application
itself,
the
details,
what
they
get,
but
it's
it's
kind
of
like
anything
you
can
think
of
that'll
meet
those
requirements
can
qualify.
So
we've
done
programs
in
the
past,
like
boys
and
girls
club
after
school
program,
the
Urban
League
summer
program
action
for
older
persons,
senior
health
insurance
program,
we're
putting
money
into
the
Roberson
Museum
sidewalk
rehab.
I
That's
a
safety
issue
more
than
anything.
So
that's
there's
a
lot
of
things
you
can
do.
It's
hard
for
me
to
tell
you
what
you
can't
do,
because
there's
so
much
you
can
do
with
it.
I
It's
it's
difficult
to
say
you
know
to
put
limits
because
it
really
is
unlimited
as
long
as
it
meets
the
core
requirements
of
assisting
low-income
people.
Okay,.
F
I
was
just
asking
because,
specifically
about
being
a
member
of
the
COC
I
remember
last
year
a
few
organizations
wanted
to
apply,
or
at
least
start
considering
applying,
but
they
weren't
members
of
the
COC.
So
I
wanted
to
make.
F
I
Think
the
way
we
handled
it
last
year
and
I
I
would
be
willing
to
push
forward
with
this
the
same
way
as
long
as
they
are
in
the
process
of
applying
to
the
COC,
and
they
have
to
be
a
member
of
the
COC
before
like
an
agreement,
will
be
able
to
be
signed
with
them
for
spending
ESG
funds.
So
yeah
I
know
there's
a
few
agencies
out
there
that
kind
of
new
on
the
scene
and
definitely
it
you
can
watch
them
at
the
COC
meetings.
I
They
people
get
active
and
involved
with
it,
and
you
can
see
these
new
agencies
come
along
and
absolutely
I
definitely
encourage
them
to
to
apply
but
yeah
the
the
restriction
on
being
a
COC
member
and
the
letter
of
support
I
think
we
can
sort
of
not
hand
wave
it,
but
it's
like
as
long
as
you're
gonna
get
one
of
those
in
the
near
future.
You
know
by
the
time
you
guys
are
awarding
funds.
They
should
definitely
be
you
know
by
the
time
spring
comes
around.
I
At
ESG
potential,
good
standing
or
potential
letter
support,
okay,
yeah,
absolutely.
A
A
D
A
A
Before
we
start
start
on,
the
calendar
review,
Steve
can
I
bring
up
the
discussion
you
and
I
had
this
morning
about
a
meeting
on
the
actual
districts
within
the
city
that
qualify
for
the
you
know,
low-income
and
and
moderate
income
Grant
application
parameters.
Remember
we
talked
about
possibly
having
a
meeting
where
we
go
over
some
of
the
areas.
Oh.
I
Yeah
yeah
yeah
yeah,
because
I'll
just
tell
you
there's
no
I
mean
there
are
certain
there's
predominantly
well
there's
about
four
areas
of
the
city
that
technically
fall
outside
of
automatic
cdbg
eligibility,
but
projects
can
still
apply
even
within
there
as
long
as
they're
still
serving
low-income
people
but
yeah.
What
we
can
do-
and
we've
talked
about
this
and
I'd-
send
something
about
this
in
the
email,
I'm
thinking
that
and
we've
never
really
discussed.
I
This
is
a
data
meeting
where
I
can
get
you
data
and
show
you
maps
of
poverty,
concentration
of
poverty
and
low
income
technically
are
not
the
same.
I
know
that
sounds
weird,
but
they're
not
the
same,
but
I
can
definitely
show
you
both
of
those
numbers.
I
can
show
you
unemployment
figures.
We
can
see
areas
I
potentially
could
get
crime
data
if
you're
curious
about
that
I
could
potentially
pull
code
data
as
well.
If
you're
looking
for
specific
types
of
code
violations,
anything
else
you
guys
are
thinking
of.
I
If
you
want
to
give
me
a
list
of
where,
basically,
if
you're
looking
for
where
are
things
happening,
what
are
the
numbers?
Where
is
what's
the
the
hardest
hit
area
of
the
city
you
know,
I
can
definitely
put
that,
put
those
numbers
together
and
give
them
to
you,
and
then
you
have
that
data
for
determining
projects.
F
Have
some
numbers
I
want?
They
seem
pretty
obscure,
but
I
think
it'll
help
for
the
case
of
helping
to
improve
garbage
collection
and
stuff
around
town.
So
I'd
really
like
to
know
how
often
the
street
sweeper
is
run
and
also
how
often
city
council
I
mean
the
garbage
collection
is
collecting
the
city
cans.
I
Okay,
that's
that's
a
really
good
so
that
those
are
the
kind
of
questions
I'm
going
to
forget
this
so
definitely
email
it
when
we
start
coming
to
getting
the
list
together.
But
this
is
the
specific
type
of
thing
I'm
asking
you
know,
because
that
those
are
questions.
I
can
get
from
DPW
DPW
Public
Works.
Is
it
public
works
I,
don't
know
how
the
city
functions
sometimes
councilwoman.
I
Do
so
yeah
I
can
get
that
data
from
various
departments,
but
that's
why
I
was
also
talking
about
like
code
violations.
If
you
want
to
know
areas
that
are
I,
don't
know
landlords,
for
example
the
the
densest
area
of
landlord
violations,
we
can
do
that.
A
I
It
give
me
at
least
a
week,
preferably
more
so
if
you
want
this
by
the
29th,
it's
not
going
to
happen.
Unfortunately,
but
if
you
want
this
data-
and
you
give
me
you
know
a
couple
weeks-
I
can
pull
the
data,
or
at
least
I
can
start
emailing
everyone
and
and
sort
of
compile
all
the
information
together
that
I
can
and
get
it
out
to
you
guys.
So
so.
I
I
A
And
and
because
it's
a
new
process,
I
would
think
that
we've,
you
know
we'd
probably
want
to
start
somewhere,
so
that
we
would
need
to
work
into
the
schedule
and
then
refine
it
as
we
go
along.
So
if
we
have
some
basic
stuff
like
the
stuff,
ebony
just
talked
about
yeah,
three
or
four
or
five
items
that
you
could
give
us
some
information
on.
It's
a
start.
So.
I
I
would
say:
maybe
a
good
idea
is
for
everyone
to
brainstorm
on
this
one
and
then
email
me
directly
and
I'll,
compile
everyone's
ideas
together
and
then
look
at
it
and
we
can
make
a
determination.
I
would
say
tentatively,
though,
go
ahead
and
throw
a
date
sometime
in
in
late
November,
early
December
as.
A
I
A
A
I
printed
out
from
home
this,
yes.
H
A
A
True,
so
I
was
thinking
again
if
we
give
Steve.
If
we
get
our
request
to
Steve
real
quick
and
you
can
turn
it
around,
we
might
even
be
able
to
schedule
something
in
late
October.
I
Yeah
and
so
the
October
meetings,
these
are
good
times
to
do
the
non
applicant
meetings
because
they
haven't
turned
the
applications
in
and
we
can.
We
can
get
some
data
from
that.
So
you
want
to
do
the
data
meeting
sometime
in
late,
October,
you're
thinking,
maybe
if.
I
I
would
definitely
say,
go
ahead
and
put
a
solid
date
on
here.
Okay,.
A
But
that's
what
we're
going
to
talk
about,
because
we
don't
know
whether
that's
the
the
other
issue.
The
more
complex
issue
we
have
here
is
that
again
we
have
to
meet
here
and
we
have
to
meet
at
times
when
city
council
isn't
meeting
so
that
basically
leaves
us
with
Tuesdays
and
Thursdays,
and
one
of
our
members
indicated
that
Tuesdays
are
definitely
out
for
her.
So
we
have
a
bit
of
a
dilemma.
I
So
the
handout
I
gave
you
is
every
free
date
that's
available
and
that
takes
an
account
holidays,
city,
council,
zoning
board,
planning,
board
and
I
think
I
even
took
off
weekends,
because
I
did
not
want
to
come
in
on
the
weekends.
So
this
is
where,
unfortunately,
this
may
be
a
non-standard
meeting
process
just
because
of
the
nature
of
cdac,
so
I
encourage
you
guys
to
you
know,
take
this
with
an
open
mind,
take
Tuesdays
out
because
we
we're
going
to
lose
a
c
to
AC
member.
I
If
we
don't,
unfortunately,
and
go
from
there
so.
A
I
guess
the
easiest
way
is
to
canvas
everybody
and
see
if
Thursday's
work
does
anyone
have
a
problem
with
Thursdays
and-
and
this
also
depends
upon
the
people
who
haven't,
who
aren't
here
and
what
their
schedule
would
be.
It's
going
to
be
a
little
complex
here.
If
Thursdays
work
for
everybody
here,
then
we
can
reach
out
to
those
other
people
and
ask
them
if
Thursdays
work
for
them.
A
I
A
D
We
have
anybody
who
I
have
a
question,
so
this
list
that
you
gave
us
these
are
the
dates
that
we
can
be
in
city,
council
chambers,
so.
A
I
I
believe
I
counted
11
Thursdays
from
now
until
the
end
of
the
year
also
understand,
FY
49
will
con
the
the
process
will
continue
into
the
next
year,
but
starting
next
year.
That's
when
you're
going
to
have
City
departments
come
come
into
effect,
they're
going
to
come
in
they're
going
to
do
presentations.
That's
the
time
where
the
COC
will
make
a
presentation
and
recommendation
on
ESG
budgets.
I
It's
going
to
be
the
time
where
you're
going
to
have
public
hearings
to
get
input
from
the
public.
All
of
that
stuff's
going
to
occur
in
that
period
of
time,
and
you
want
to
have
your
process
done,
and
a
budget
recommendation
to
city
council,
the
mayor,
probably
at
least
March
April
at
the
latest.
In
order
for
the
mayor
to
then
do
an
update
do
an
updated
budget
and
get
that
out
to
the
public
for
review
and
city
council
with
enough
time
for
official
review,
which
is
30
days.
A
I
Anything
anything
you
don't
do
this
year
has
to
be
done
next
year.
So
if
you
that
generally
we're
going
to
want
you're
gonna
minimum
want
presentations
from
all
the
applications,
you're
looking
at
probably
24
to
25
applications,
roughly
10
minutes
each
so
you're,
looking
at
maximum
six
applications
in
an
hour
assuming
everything's,
perfect,
that's
four
hours,
that's
either
two
really
long
meetings
or
four
normal
size
meetings.
So
that's
two
to
four
right
there.
That's
assuming
you
only
get
24
applicants.
You're
there's
been
discussion
about
having
the
data
meeting.
That
would
be
another
one.
I
The
discussion
of
having
the
non-applicant
stakeholders
provide
presentations
for
those
who
weren't
here
it
wasn't
here.
Last.
E
I
So
I
guess
just
for
the
record.
The
stakeholder
meetings
were
when
we
reached
out
to
things
like
rise
for
domestic
violence.
They
don't
apply
for
cdb
due
funds,
but
we
wanted
to
know
the
domestic
violence
situation
in
the
area,
so
they
presented,
and
it
was
very
nice
and
very
educational.
I
I
did
reach
out
to
Veterans
groups,
but
no
veterans
group
or
the
veterans
group
I
reached
out
to
never
responded
I
reached
out
to
DSS
for
housing
issues.
Those
kinds
of
things
so
Anyone
who
normally
doesn't
apply,
could
come
and
sort
of
make
a
case.
You
know
this
is
the
situation
of
housing
in
the
area.
This
is
the
situation
of
domestic
violence
in
the
area.
This
is
the
situation
with
Crime
Victims
in
general
in
the
area,
so
that
may
be
one
or
two
additional
meetings
right
there
and.
A
I
I
The
second
public
hearing
is
part
of
the
city
council,
public
hearing
and
that's
just
a
change
Hud's
reinterpretation
of
our
citizen
participation
plan,
even
though
they
told
us
we
were
doing
it
right
before
so
now.
The
mayor's
budget's
the
final
budget
and
that's
the
one
that
has
to
have
a
30-day
public
review.
A
A
I
would
prefer
that
we
keep
it
to
one
particular
day
a
week,
so
that
we
don't
have
to
check
every
week.
Is
it
Wednesday
or
Thursday,
or
so
if
Thursdays
work,
it
seems
that
we
could
go
with
them
and
then
plan
how
many
of
how
many
Thursdays
we
need
until
the
end
of
March,
allowing
as
we
always
do.
A
couple
of
you
know
contingent
dates
just
in
case.
E
I
I
So,
for
example,
there's
a
12,
12,
29
and
even
12
22.,
that's
hitting
a
little
close
to
crystals.
A
I
It's
we're
starting.
A
Late,
so
those
two
weeks
could
so
we
might
have
to
maybe
take
advantage
of
a
Wednesday
now
and
then,
if
we
had
to
yeah.
A
It
would
give
everybody
a
clear
picture
that
Thursdays
are
the
days
that
we
meet
and
then
we
could
decide
if
next
week
we
you
know
that
next
week
we
had
a
Wednesday
that
wasn't
Council
wasn't
meeting
and
we
needed
to
follow
up
on
something
we
could
see.
We
would
have
some
flexibility
there
and
hopefully,
if
we're
our
numbers
are
back
up.
Quorum
won't
be
quite
a
problem.
Yeah.
I
I
Do
have
one
question:
councilwoman,
Robbie,
I,
understand:
there's
the
budget
meetings
are
kind
of
loopy.
I
Do
you
happen
to
have
those
dates
on
here
in
relation
to
this,
because
we
will
not
be
able
to
meet
in
in
this
chamber
on
those
days.
This
is
only
going
to
impact
I,
think
the
first
half
of
October
and
I
don't
even
know
if
we
plan
on
doing
anything
in
the
first
half
of
October,
these
would
be
Wednesdays
any
days.
Oh,
it
could
be
a
Thursday
like.
I
H
A
Out
so
we
could
still
schedule
something
on
the
data
meeting
toward
the
end
of
October
yep.
It
looks
like.
I
That
12th
is
that
12th
open
the
Wednesday,
because,
if
you
guys
want
it,
I
can
go
ahead
and
reach
out
to
some
of
the
the
app
the
non-applying
stakeholders
and
see
how
quickly
some
of
them
might
be
able
to
present
to
you
get
to
everyone.
Yeah.
I
A
I
I
D
I
I
There's
a
couple
things
there.
One
is
the
covet
issue
because
it's
too
tight
in
there
for
a
technically
open
to
the
public
meeting.
I
think
that's
part
of
the
problem.
I
did
ask
about
having
these
meetings
down
there,
and
that
was
essentially
the
response.
I
got
they're,
also
being
recorded
I,
don't
think
they
have
any
recording
equipment
down
there
that
it's
like
this
kind
of
stuff,
so
everything's
pretty
much
stuck
in
city
council
chambers.
So
we
have
to
work
around
city
council.
We
have
to
work
around
well
or
work
with
planning.
I
Word
zba
city
council
get
they
win.
They
they
win.
Their
dates
are
set
in
stone
that
we
have
to
work
around
planning
board
and
zba
is
a
little
bit
more
flexible,
but
I'm
I'm
trying
to
be
kind
enough
to
them,
because
theirs
is
a
pretty
regular
schedule
and
cdac
is
a
little
bit
a
little
wonky,
because
it's
not
like
a
regular
meeting
where
you
have
regular
things.
You
talk
about
each
and
every
time
it's
always
very
different
from
the
previous
meeting.
So
but.
A
A
D
I
I
think
I'd
be
comfortable
even
doing
email
vote
on
this
fantastic.
I
Then
we
can
communicate
by
email
if
anything
else
needs
to
be
changed,
but
I'll
work
on
this
as
a
sort
of
skeleton
yeah
and
flesh
it
out,
especially
once
I
start
asking
the
questions
about
the
data.
So
if
you
guys
can
get
me
your
questions
that
you
want
for
the
data
meeting
that
which
will
I
think
technically
is
gonna,
be
the
next
one
I
think
we're
expecting
the
next
meeting
doing
the
data
meeting.
Let
me
know
as
soon
as
possible,
I'll
compile
them.
I
Give
me
I'll,
give
you
like
a
week,
give
them
to
me
and
I'll
compile
them
and
let
everybody
know
what
I'm
going
to
be
looking
for
and
starting
to
pull
together.
I'll.
Also,
let
you
know
if
I'm
gonna
have
problems
with
any
of
the
data
you're
looking
for
and
or
something's
going
to
take
a
lot
longer,
but
definitely
be
creative.
What
questions
do
you
have?
What
what
information
do
you
want
to
know
to
help
you
make
a
determination
on
where
funding
needs
to
go?
That's
really!
That's
really
what
the
data
meeting's
about.
E
A
I
I
And
I
think
even
by
the
27th
I
can
probably
go
ahead
and
have
a
at
least
a
few
sub-recipients
or
not
stakeholders
on
the
hook
for
doing
some
presentations
on
that
I
do
not
know
how
presentations
are
going
to
work
in
city
council.
We
do
not
have
a
projector
or
do
we
I
thought.
We
did.
E
I
I
All
right
yeah,
so
for
all
these
meetings
assume
these
seats
are
full
and
that
everyone
has-
and
everyone
does
have
the
right
to
come
to
these
meetings
and
review
them
and
watch
them
whenever
they
want
and
we're
holding
them.
So
we
have
to
kind
of
work
with
that
mindset,
which
is
another
reason
why
they're
being
they're
here.
It's
because
of
that.
So
what's.
I
Yeah
so
technically,
and
it
just
as
a
right
as
cdac
you
can,
if
you
so
wish,
choose
to,
especially
if
you
see
like
a
bunch
of
people
coming
in.
If
you
wish
to
have
some
sort
of
public
comment
period,
you
could
add
it
in,
but
in
general.
Yes,
unless
you
as
the
chair,
permit
them
to
speak,
they
technically
or
just
observers
that.
A
A
I
mean
you
know:
stakeholders
who
are
you
know
want
to
Advocate
even
more
for
the
districts
in
which
they
work
or
an
area
where
there
is
particular
need,
if,
in
other
words,
opening
up
that
data
meeting
to
the
opportunity
for
people
to
speak
might
be
something
that
would
be
nice.
It
might
be
something
that
would
have
to
grow
with
time,
but
it
might
be
something
we'd
want
to
think
about,
because
it
would
make
the
meeting
a
lot
more
relevant.
I
So
I
would
say
in
that
regard.
What
I
would
do
is,
if
that's
the
way
you
want
to
do
it.
I
can
do
an
ad
in
the
paper.
I
can
let
that,
but
more
importantly,
that
I
don't
know
how
many
people
see
the
ads,
but
I
could
contact
the
Lister,
which
is
several
it's
like
150
people,
including
a
lot
of
stakeholders
and
say,
hey
we're
doing
this
public
hearing
and
if
you,
let
me
know
how
you
want
to
let
them
participate.
I
If
it's
going
to
be
just
like
an
additional
public
hearing
type
thing
or
something
like
that,
or
we
want
to
structure
it
around,
as
as
topics
come
up
and
as
maps
come
up.
If
people
want
to
add,
add
commentary,
that's
up
that's
up
to
cdac
on
how
to
how
to
do
that.
A
A
I
I
A
G
A
I
I
would
do
I
I
would
if
this
isn't
anything
that's
required
under
the
CPP.
So
now
it's
a
which
is
the
sorry
I.
Do
apologize,
citizen
participation
plan.
So
it's
not
a
HUD
requirement.
So
this
is
really
just
cdac.
Perhaps
getting
additional
input
or
clarification
on
data
that
emerges
from
the
question.
Cdac
is
asking
generally.
A
I
That
includes
pretty
much
all
the
stakeholders
who
apply
some
stakeholders
that
don't
apply
most
of
the
COC
members
and
citizens
who
the
more
active
citizens
in
the
community.
As
I've
said.
If
anyone
wants
to
panelists
or
if
you
know,
anyone
who
wants
to
take
part
in
these
meetings
or
just
find
out,
stop
have
them
contact
me.
It
is
completely
free,
I,
add
them
right
to
the
list.
I
A
F
I
C
I
The
mayor's
office
to
support
it
through
it'd,
be
like
maybe
a
press,
release
and
or
Facebook
comment,
but
I
can
ask.
A
H
G
H
A
public
common
session
will
be
noted
on
your
agenda
and
on
the
calendar
and
what
we
typically
do
when
we
want
the
public
to
recognize
that
we
then
share
that
on
our
various
social
media
pages,
so
it
will
be
postable
and
because
this
is
the
public
meeting,
it
has
to
have
24-hour
notice,
at
least
with
those
specifications
within
so
I.
Think
if
everyone
shares
that,
then
again
you
will
increase
the
visibility
yeah.
A
I
So
for
an
official
cdac
meeting,
that
is
a
possibility,
but
we
need
to
take
it
into
account
on
the
calendar,
and
so
that
is
a
possibility.
It's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
time.
Intensive
and
we'd
have
to
figure
out
the
logistics
and
as
well
as
if
it's
an
official
cdac
meeting
that
stuff
best,
we
have
to
figure
out
how
the
recording
will
take
place.
I
So
that's
the
stuff
I,
don't
know
we
can
also
do
say
district-wide
Focus,
to
bring
them
to
these
meetings,
so
try
to
communicate
with
particular
District
residents
and
try
to
get
them
to
come
in.
That's
also
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
yeah!
That's
that's
that
with
the
public
meeting
laws.
This
is
where
it
all
becomes
like
more
confusing
and
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
but
I'm
not
against
that
at
all
I'm.
Just
thinking.
Logistically
it
will
be
complex.
The.
A
I
At
it,
we've
never
done
a
data
meeting
before
and
and
and
I'm
I'm
really
excited
about
that.
Just
because
I
think
I
feel
like
this
is
information
that
I
end
up
putting
in
the
the
action
plan
at
the
last
minute,
just
because
I
have
to
from
HUD,
but
it's
really
should
be
there
at
the
very
beginning,
when
you
guys
are
making
budgetary
decisions
and
talking
to
Residents
and
stakeholders
about
the
stuff.
So
because
you
could
have
a
you,
could
have
a
stakeholder
coming
and
go
we're
in
the
most
poverty-stricken
area
of
the
city.
I
That's
great
is
that
hyperbole
is
that
accuracy?
You
could
say
well
great.
Your
district
has
an
issue,
but
this
district
is
I
mean
I.
I
know
right
off
the
top
of
my
head,
where
the
poorest
District,
the
poorest
area
in
the
city
is,
and
unfortunately
it
does
I'm
not
always
get
the
best
funding
for
it
I'm
just
the
way
it
is,
but
but
that's
something
that
maybe,
if
that
was
made
available,
made
more
public
people
would
recognize
and
go
okay.
I
I
I
The
action
plan
has
never
been
a
geographical
focused
process
and
that's
unfortunate
and
I
I
really
feel
like
it.
It
needs
to
be
in
some
manner
because
there
areas
that
have
harder
times
than
others
so.
A
So,
okay,
are
we
agreed
that
this
is
how
we
would
start
we
will
reach
out
to
as
many
people
as
we
can
have
the
data
meeting
tentatively
on
the
20th
of
October.
Everyone
is
in
agreement.
We
will
share
this
information
with
our
colleagues
who
are
not
here.
Yep.
I
And
I
will
I
will
send
out
yeah.
This
would
I.
I
Will
be
a
vote
or
anything
I
will
send
out
when
I'm
going
to
try
to
as
soon
as
possible,
so
longer
than
24
hours.
I
would
prefer
days
and
days
and
days,
I'll
send
it
out
to
my
list,
sir
I'll
do
an
ad
in
the
paper
just
because
we
should
do
it
on
the
paper.
I
I
can
ask
the
mayor's
office
to
advertise
it
and
once
I
get
the
meeting
set
up
on
Zoom
I,
don't
think
there's
any
restriction
or
rule
that's
allowing
you
as
cdac
members
from
sharing
it
on
your
own
Facebook
page
or
your
own
social
media
or
whatever
yeah.
Let
me
I,
always
I,
didn't
I,
don't
think
I
think
I
did
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
okay.
So
this
is
the
beginning
of
the
next
fix.
Here
you
represent
the
city.
I
I
I
But
I
wish
all
of
you
would
have
that
biting
span.
I'm,
not
saying
you
don't
have
that
fighting
Spirit,
but
I
wish.
You
would
always
engage
in
that
fighting
Spirit
yeah
go
forward.
I
We'll
try
to
get
everything
out
if
you
guys
think
of
other
ways
of
communicating
with
people
I
can
contact.
We
got
a
bunch
of
the
churches
that
sir
some
more
impoverished
areas
that
we've
been
helping
I
could
possibly
reach
out
to
them
and
see
if
they
would
be
willing
to
pass
it
on
to
their
not
clients.
Why
is
that
word
escaping
me?
Who
goes
to
churches,
members.
I
And
pass
that
on,
because
that
can
usually
be
a
good
way
of
spreading
the
word
as
well,
and
obviously
all
the
sub.
The
the
agencies
that
do
apply.
I
have
to
stress
to
the
agencies,
because
I'm
gonna
feel
like
if
I
don't
they're
gonna
come
in
here
and
try
to
sell
their
they'll.
A
No,
no,
no,
and,
as
you
know,
as
the
committee
we
will
have
a
lot
of,
we
will
have
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
and
after
the
First
Data
meeting
we'll
know
what
we
need
to
do
for
the
second
one
that
we
have
next
year.
But
it's
a
good
start
and
Steve.
That's
the
end
of
our
agenda.
Okay,.
I
Are
two
openings
available
right
now
we
have
the
council
at
large
position.
I
think
is
still
open
and
the
one
of
the
mayoral
positions.
If
you
know
anyone
who
is
willing
to
put
up
with
the
pain
I
mean
willing
to
come
to
these
meetings
and
represent
the
the
people
of
Binghamton.
Please
pass
that
on
for
city
council.
That
would
be
passing
it
on
to
Lee
to
pass
it
on
to
councils
at
large.
You
can
also
send
it
to
me
and
I
can
pass
it
on
or
the
mayor's
office
directly.
A
I
H
Yes,
yes,
thank
you
again.
Committee
chair,
I
would
make
a
recommendation,
though,
before
you
adjourn,
or
at
least
via
email,
that
you
solidify
the
process
for
the
data
meeting,
because
if
you're
closing
public
comments.
H
H
H
To
a
certain
extent,
but
Steve
knows
how
to
do
that.
Let
me
share
this
additional
piece.
Though
after
public
comment
closes
and
data
is
presented,
you
will
not
yield
any
questions
from
the
floor.
That's
a
suggestion.
If
you
don't
tell
the
audience
that
before
you
may
have
a
number
of
questions
that
are
thrown
out
as
the
data
is
being
presented,
so
that's
a
different
format,
someone's
open
format
and
one
is
public
I.
H
G
G
A
Backwards,
you
know
I'm,
not
sure
what
cdac
regulations
are
on
such
a
meeting,
since
it
is
sort
of
an
it's
a
new
meeting,
and
it's
not
really
a
public
hearing.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
you
know
advertised
as
a
public
hearing,
so
it
is
our
hope.
It
is
our
hope
that
we
have
a
certain
amount
of
flexibility,
as
we
kind
of
you
know,
test
out
this
process
that
we
can.
It.
D
H
A
I
think
we
are
envisioning
is
a
sort
of
inclusive
process
where
we
would
not
have
to
have
such
rigid
lines.
That's
what
we're.
A
No
I
I
think
that
you
have
to
understand.
We
are
lay
people
we're
not
really
thinking
on
a
lot
in
those
lines.
What
we're
thinking
about
is
what
the
most
effective
way
to
talk
to
the
community
will
be
and
I
think
that
you
know
we
sort
of
think
that
we'll
we'll
play
it
by
ear.
If
we
get
150
people,
we'll
we'll
do
what
you
say.
You
know
we'll
present
the
thing
and
shut
down.
H
A
I'm
basically
kidding
about
that.
Oh,
but
no,
no,
no,
I'm!
Just
saying
that
you
know
this
is
going
to
be
a
trial
process
and
we're
going
to
try
to
keep
it
as
informal
as
we
possibly
can.
I
would
think
that
that
would
also
create
an
atmosphere
among
the
public
that
they
would
feel
comfortable
to
come
in
and
and
learn
what
we
can
share
with
them
as
well,
as
you
know,
give
us
their
opinion.
A
So
Steve,
the
councilwoman
just
made
some
comments
about
the
rules
on
public
comment
and
the
presentation
of
material
okay,.
B
A
A
A
A
Second,
and
can
we
do
a
quick
starting
with
Kenya?
Can
we
start
attendance.
E
Kenya
mayor
Kenya,
Middleton
mayor
appointee.
Excuse
me.