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0:00:00 Call to Order
0:05:30 49 Court Street
0:29:35 100 Richard Avenue
0:46:30 110 Fairview Avenue, 14-18 Clapham Street
C
B
All
right,
hello,
everyone
welcome
to
the
july
meeting
of
the
city
of
binghamton
planning,
commission.
My
name
is
nick
corcoran
and
I'm
currently
the
chairman
of
this
commission,
which
is
comprised
of
local
community
members,
tasked
with
reviewing
site
plans
and
special
use
permits
for
consistency
with
the
standards
and
criteria
set
forth
in
the
city
of
binghamton
code.
B
D
B
B
E
B
B
B
All
right
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
the
planning
commission
will
be
reviewing
documentation
provided
by
applicants.
For
the
first
time,
applicants
will
be
called
to
the
microphone
where
they
will
be
asked
to
make
a
presentation
describing
their
plans
to
the
commission.
Commission
members
may
then
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
to
clarify
any
items
that
are
unclear.
After
all,
questions
have
been
answered.
The
commission
will
deliberate
and
then
either
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
the
project
or
request
additional
information.
B
Before
proceeding
to
all
our
applicants
that
will
be
presenting
tonight,
we
ask
that
you,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
our
records
before
beginning
the
presentation,
and
we
ask
that
any
member
of
the
team
applicants
team
that
will
be
speaking.
Please
give
their
name
and
address
for
our
public
record.
B
This
meeting
is
being
conducted
in
accordance
with
chapter
one
of
the
laws
of
the
2020
of
2022,
which
in
part
authorizes
this
public
body
to
meet
and
take
such
action
authorized
by
law
without
permitting
in
public
in-person
access
to
meetings
and
authorize.
Such
meetings
to
be
held
remotely
by
conference
call
or
similar
service,
provided
that
the
public
has
the
ability
to
view
or
listen
to
such
proceedings
and
as
such
meetings
are
recorded
and
later
transcribed.
B
B
Make
any
public
comments
in
our
public
hearings
portion
of
the
project
which
will
be
coming
up
next,
but
for
now
this
is
secret
determinations.
So
our
first
applicant
is
marchuska
brothers,
construction
llc.
The
project
address
is
49
quart
street
and
this
is
a
site
plan
review
to
add
nine
additional
parking
spaces
to
an
existing
231
space.
Surface
parking
lot
in
the
c2
downtown
business
district.
H
We
currently
are
seeing
a
increase
in
parking
needs
with
ramp
no
longer
in
service
on
water
street,
with
with
the
metro
center
and
simply
for
basically
for
the
students
for
the
people
who
go
downtown,
we're
looking
to
add
nine
additional
parking
spots.
We
feel
good
for
the
church
too.
We
currently
allow
church
to
use
our
parking
lot
at
no
cost
and
we're
thinking
that
you
know
when
moving
with
these
additional
nine
spots
closer
to
their
building.
H
H
We
typically
run
about
35
40
spots
a
day,
but
you
know
during
the
school
year
it's
a
little
tighter
and
again
this
will.
This
will
add
some
additional
parking
parking
lot
for
us
with
the
metro
center
is
not
a
money
making
endeavor,
we
we
simply
offer
as
a
service,
and
we
feel
that
it's
it's
important
to
the
the
whole
downtown
area,
because
being
really
the
only
ones
with
an
open
parking
lot
of
over
200
parking
spaces,
and
you
know
we
do
continue
to
maintain
the
parking
lot
very
well.
H
We
probably
have
the
best
maintained
area
landscaping
and
in
parking
lot
sometime
we
have
staff
that
sub
garbage
on
a
not
only
on
a
daily
basis.
I
would
really
challenge
anyone
to
look
at
our
site
from
weeds
or
cigarette
butts
or
anything.
It's.
It's
extremely
well
maintained
it's
the
best
of
downtown
and
we're
simply
hoping
to
do
this
as
a
service.
H
You
know,
if
there's,
if
there's
a
lot
of
hurdles,
we're
just
gonna,
take
and
decide
not
to
move
forward
with
it,
but
again
it's
it
would
yeah
would
help
the
downtown
the
area
where
we
were
looking
to
place.
The
spots
is
currently
an
area
of
non-permeable,
surface
concrete,
but
we're
replacing
with
like
high
material,
maintaining
the
sidewalk.
That's.
Currently
there
we
weren't
going
to
affect
that
any.
So
it's
really
a
one-for-one
replacement
with
what
we're
looking
to
do.
I'm
not
sure,
if
seems
if
you
want
to
add
anything
additional.
I
B
The
proposal
shows
no
landscape
buffer
adjacent
to
the
new
spaces,
there's
not
enough
space
to
include
90
degree
parking
spaces
and
a
five-foot
landscape
buffer,
while
retaining
a
five-foot
wide,
concrete,
walkway
adjacent
to
the
church.
If
the
applicant
reorients
the
spaces
to
45
degrees,
there
will
be
enough
room
for
the
walkway
buffer
parking
spaces
and
the
required
drive
piles.
B
H
Look
at
that
neck,
big
thing
for
us
here
if,
like
you
said
this
is
just
a
service
to
downtown,
so
if
it
becomes
too
many
hurdles
as
it
is,
it's
a
large
cost
for
us
just
to
add
these
few
spots.
But
you
know
if
we
orientate
them
at
an
angle,
I'm
okay
with
that.
As
far
as
the
five
foot
sidewalk
I
mean
we
could
eliminate
that
sidewalk
and
put
landscaping
there.
Just
it
seems
kind
of
crazy
to
do
I
mean
no
one
really
uses
that
sidewalk.
H
I
Most
most
people
cut
me
right
through
the
lot
and
kind
of
don't
even
use
that
that
spot-
and
there
was-
I
mean
really
the
way
it's
laid
out
right
now
is
that
sidewalk
comes
right
up
to
church's
land,
so
there
is
no
existing
landscape
buffer
floor
plan
was
just
to
cut
that
sidewalk
back
and
leave
the
five
feet
of
existing
that's
there.
Instead,
you
know
we'd
have
to
basically
rip
that
out
rip
out
an
existing
sidewalk
and
add
a
five
foot
buffer.
If
that's
what
you
guys
were
looking
to
do.
B
Yeah
well,
it
definitely
seems
like
I've
been
down
there
for
a
couple
of
weddings,
and
I
know
that
sidewalk
gets
pretty
packed
during
wedding
season,
that's
kind
of
where
everybody
leaves
exits
and
then
gathers.
I
think
the
limo
usually
lines
up
right
along
that
curb
line.
At
least
it
used
to.
I
haven't
been
to
one
in
a
while
there,
but
so
it
would
be
a
shame
to
lose
the
sidewalk
completely
in
through
there
are
you?
Are
you
opposed
to
the
angled
parking?
The
idea?
H
No,
I
mean
angle
parking's,
fine,
it's
more,
it's
more,
so
that
we
were
just
trying
to
keep
this
again.
It's
you
know
it's!
It's
pretty
minimal
change!
We're
looking
to
do
here.
You
know
it's,
you
know
it's
non-permeable,
we're
sticking
with
non-permeable
we're
not
affecting
that
area
where
the
connection
between
us
and
the
neighboring
property,
which
they
do
have
landscaping.
That
comes
up.
So
it's
a
pre-existing.
You
know
condition
that
we
have
there
we're
more
or
less
working
on
the
other
side
of
the
the
other
side
of
the
sidewalk
yeah.
H
And
I
again
I
feel
that
you
know
with
the
church
again.
You
know
if
that,
if
lord
ever
want
anything,
I
mean
the
documentation,
we
we
don't,
we
don't
get
anything
from
them,
but
again
this
would
be
a
great
service
to
them
for
older
people.
I
worry
about
that,
especially
wintertime,
walking
across
the
parking
lot.
H
You
know,
funerals
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
I
mean
who
knows.
Maybe
they
would
even
have
something
where,
if
they
did
an
event
where
you
know
like
you're
talking,
nick
or
a
larger,
you
know
limo
or
hers,
or
something
pulls
up
there
and
makes
it
bear
for
them
we're
leaving
a
good
portion
of
the
sidewalk.
So
they
still
have
that
large
sidewalk
at
the
area
where
the
actual
entrance
is
to
the
church
from
our
parking
lot.
B
Okay,
well,
so
the
I
think
the
the
planning
department's
hands
are
a
little
bit
tight
on
just
if
you
go
forward
with
this
plan
in
order
to
get
it
approved,
you
would
just
need
that
variance.
I
don't
think
you'd
have
any
problem
getting
that
approved
since
the
church
has
a
huge
lawn,
like
you're
saying
as
the
buffer
behind
the
side
behind
the
sidewalk
there,
but
it
would
be
another
step
you'd
have
to
take.
If
you
want
to
go
with
this
this
plan.
B
B
B
The
western
walkway
adjacent
to
the
church
previously
contained
seven
trees.
The
trees
were
cut
down
and
the
tree
wells
paved
with
concrete.
Around
2019
staff
recommends
that
at
least
three
trees
be
replanted
in
this
area,
with
a
minimum
two
inch
caliper
tree
any
interest
in
opening
those
tree
wells
back
up.
H
Well
this
this
is
my
thought,
free
lover
myself,
but
we
when
we
remove
those
trees.
First
of
all,
I
think
personally-
and
I
hear
compliments
all
the
time
our
area
looks
110
percent
better
than
it
did
with
the
trees
were
all
old.
They
were
broken.
People
hung
garbage
off
them.
You
won't
believe
the
drugs
we
found
underneath
the
bushes
that
were
there,
the
garbage.
H
It
was
a
real
mess
that
we
had
on
our
hands.
It'd,
be
one
thing
if
we
were
in
downtown
skinny,
alice
or
downtown
saratoga,
but
the
abuse
that
the
stuff
gets
there
I
mean
we're,
constantly
cleaning
up
cigarettes
and
garbage
cans,
city
added
the
that
that
washington,
street
mall
area
and
again
on
the
surface
I
was
I
went
to
the
meetings
and
I'm
a
big
believer
in.
In
you
know:
practicality.
H
H
In
place
to
maintain
this,
it
always
bothers
me
when
I
come
off
the
pennsylvania
avenue
bridge
and
I
look
at
the
weeds
and
the
in
the
I
can't
stand
weeds
and
flower
beds
or
the
overgrown
bushes.
They
never
get
trimmed
they
plant
this
stuff.
So
we
just
try
to
be
just
I
mean
we
have
grasses
there.
I
just
don't
think
trees
are
really
it's
really
practical.
If
it
was
I'd,
be
totally
on
board
with
it.
But
it's
not
you
know
just
if
I
would
invite
anyone
down
that
leave.
H
It
come
down
for
a
week
and
grab
a
garbage
bag
and
clean
up
for
a
week,
and
then
you
could.
Let
me
know
what
your
thoughts
are
at
the
end
of
the
week,
how
you
feel
about
things
or
if
we
plant
stuff
or
the
damage,
that's
done
on
a
weekly
basis,
I
mean
we've
have
people
defecate
by
our
entrance
doors
at
the
metro
center.
F
H
People
go
ahead
and
they
and
they
they
pull
limbs
off
these
trees.
You
know
they
abuse
things.
I
mean
I'm
just
I'm
being
trying
to
be
a
realist
here.
That's
why
we
did
that
and
I'm
like,
I
said,
I'm
really
proud
of
what
we've
done
and
what
we've
created
there.
It's
it's
pretty
incredible.
The
team
we
have.
So
that's!
That's
really
why
I'm
not
really
for
and
again
if
this
was
also
if
it
was.
H
H
F
H
B
H
I'm
on
a
committee
or
was
on
the
committee
for
the
daco
district
and
I
know
they're,
adding
trees
in
those
areas.
I
think
once
they
put
that
stuff
in
again.
Unfortunately,
we
need
more
stuff
that
we're
going
to
have
to
end
up
maintaining
because
I
know
they're
from
my
understanding.
I
could
be
wrong:
they're
extending
kicking
out
the
curb
and
removing
parking
and
adding
landscaping.
So
when
that's
done,
you
know,
no
one
else
is
going
to
really
maintain
it.
So
we'll
have
to
probably
keep
keep
that
those
areas
maintained.
H
You
know
at
least
around
our
property.
I
don't
see
you
know
once
that
happens,
that's
going
to
add
additional
landscaping.
I
don't
know
I've
in
the
whole
history
we've
as
the
trees
have
been
cut
down.
I've
only
gotten.
Compliments
that
people
stop
us
and
tell
us
how
great
it
looks
and
we
have
the
nicest
building
in
downtown,
but
that's
maintained.
A
B
So
I'm
just
looking
at
the
last
comment
and
it
says
it's
the
staff
so
after
talking
about
the
multiple
locations
where
the
trees
have
slowly
disappeared
over
the
last
five
years,
the
conclusion
is
it's:
the
staff's
position
that
restoring
the
recommended
15
trees
around
the
perimeter
is
a
reasonable
request.
It
would
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
surrounding
area,
especially
since
the
city
is
making
a
large
investment
in
street
improvements
through
the
deco
district
project,
including
the
planting
of
street
trees
and
the
africans.
B
Proposals
should
complement
those
improvements,
so
it
sounds
like
the
planning
department
is
kind
of
compromising
on
15
trees
around
the
perimeter.
Is
that
something
you
would
consider
you
don't
have
to
make
a
decision
tonight?
This
will
go
to
a
public
hearing
for
the
next
meeting.
Assuming
it
moves
forward.
Is
that
something
you
guys
would
consider
or.
B
B
All
right
doesn't
sound
like
anybody
else
wants
to
give
an
opinion
at
this
point.
But
so
I
guess
all
we
can
ask
is
take
a
look
at
that
see
what
you
think
between
now
and
and
the
next
meeting,
and
it's
kind
of
up
to
you
what
you
want
to
come
back
with.
It
sounds
like
I'm,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
adding
the
trees
back
in
probably
makes
sense
my
profession,
but
so
I
guess
weigh
that,
based
on
the
members
and.
B
The
approval
that
you'll
need,
I
guess
at
the
next
meeting,
but
all
right
well
in
general,
I
think
I
mean
the
plan
looks
okay
other
than
that.
Those
requests
to
me.
I
guess
so,
between
next
meeting
and
this
meeting,
you
kind
of
have
to
decide
whether
you
want
to
go
for
the
variance,
in
which
case
tito.
A
B
Okay,
all
right,
so
it
sounds
pretty
reasonable
that
you,
if
you
wanted
to
go
the
variance
route,
you
probably
could
still
get
your
stay
on
track
for
approval
at
the
next
meeting
in
august
from
us,
but
so
yeah.
So
between
now
and
next
meeting
I
guess
decide
on
whether
you
want
to
go
for
the
variance
and
if
you
want
to
update
the
plan
with
any,
to
show
any
any
of
the
treats
all
right.
Anybody
else
have
any
questions
or
comments
about
the
the
parking
expansion.
K
You
know
yeah
nick
I'm
just
curious
tito.
You
mentioned
that
the
original
plan
had
trees
and
then
they
were
removed.
I
mean:
are
we
in
a
position
here
that
those
trees
really
should
be
there?
Or
I
mean
the
fact
that
they
were
taken
down?
Is
that
in
violation
of
the
plan,
as
as
it
was
originally
submitted,.
A
It
could
be,
it
could
be.
The
the
the
parking
lot
has
been
there
for
a
very
long
time.
Obviously,
so
we
would
have
to
do
some
digging
to
find
an
approved
site
plan
for
that
parking
lot.
You
know,
but
rather
than
go
that
route
of
of
issuing
a
citation,
we
thought
you
know
that
compromise
would
would
get
the
city
some
some
good
results
without
you
know
excessively
punishing
the
the
applicant.
K
A
That
that's
our
position,
yeah
and-
and
you
know,
to
go
to
the
applicant's
comments
we
understand
this
isn't
skinny
atlas
or
saratoga,
but
part
of
what
this
commission
is
charged
with
is
improving
the
aesthetic
conditions
and
the
environmental
conditions
of
the
city
of
binghamton.
And
so
again
it's
not
it's
not
saratoga,
but
I
don't
think.
E
B
E
B
B
K
B
B
K
K
B
I
B
I
B
C
B
All
right
so
now
we're
on
to
the
next
portion
of
our
meetings
meeting,
which
is
public
hearings
and
final
deliberations,
so
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
we'll
be
holding
open
public
hearings
to
obtain
public
opinion
in
regard
to
specific
projects
that
are
up
for
review,
applicants
will
be
asked
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
a
brief
presentation
describing
their
project
for
most
projects.
This
is
the
second
time
we
were
reviewing
your
information,
so
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
could.
B
Please
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
your
project,
to
remind
us
what
you're
planning
and
then
clearly
identify
any
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
last
time.
We
saw
you
when
the
applicant
is
done
presenting
and
any
clarifications
have
been
reviewed.
We
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
allow
members
of
the
community
to
speak
about
the
applicant's
proposal
after
the
commission
is
heard
from
all
community
members
interested
in
speaking
tonight.
The
public
hearing
will
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
deliberate
to
our
applicants
when
your
project
name
is
called.
B
Please
come
to
the
microphone
and
start
off
by
giving
the
name
and
address
of
any
members
of
the
applicant's
team,
that's
planning
to
speak
for
our
public
record
and
anyone
from
the
community
that
will
be
speaking
in
regard
to
a
project
tonight.
Please
also
start
off
by
stating
your
name
and
address
for
our
records
all
right
so
tonight.
If
you
would
like
to
call
in
to
comment
about
a
project,
you
can
call
the
planning
department
at
607-772-7028.
B
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
call
waiting
in
the
planning
department.
So
if
you
do
get
a
busy
signal,
just
please
keep
trying
and
we
will
try
and
take
everyone
in
the
order
that
they
call
or
as
they
call
in
and
if
you're
on
the
zoom
meeting
tonight.
If
you'd
like
to
speak
about
a
project,
if
you
could
raise
your
hand,
there's
a
raise
your
hand
button
at
the
bottom
of
the
screen.
If
you
raise
your
hand,
the
planning
department
will
try
to
identify
anybody
who
wants
to
speak
for
any
of
our
public.
B
M
M
This
is
so
yes,
I
am
my
family
and
I
are
looking
to
build
at
the
property
site
of
100
richard
avenue,
a
four
bedroom
three
and
a
half
bath
home
located
near
the
back
of
the
property.
As
you
can
see
from
the
site
plan
there
we
do
plan
to
have
a
driveway,
some
type
of
a
roundabout
driveway
that
goes
to
the
home
and
finish
off
all
the
property,
with
new
shrubs,
greenery,
lawn
trees,
flowers
and
so
forth.
M
B
B
M
Yes
to
my
understanding:
yes,
it
is
a
four
bedroom
home.
However,
I
know
the
plans
did
state.
We
are
not.
We
have
no
intentions
of
finishing
off
that
basement
or
that
attic
space,
and
there
is
also
no
bathroom
in
the
attic
and
there's
also
no
bathroom
in
the
basement
either.
So
those
areas
will
be
completely
unfinished.
A
E
A
The
attic
showed
a
roughing
possible
location
for
a
bathroom
to
be
built
in
the
future,
and
that's
that's
where
our
comments.
That's
what
our
comments
were
on
the
potential
future
expansion
plan
in
the
basement
attic.
I
did
get
a
message
from
miss
jericho
saying
that
they
do
not
plan
on
expanding
to
the
basement
attic.
But
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
in
the
staff
report.
M
Yes,
and
if
I
could
just
add
that
these
were
this-
was
a
stock
plan
originally
that
I
had
purchased,
so
the
those
plans
were
pre-designed
with
the
future
plans
of
an
attic
and
potential
basement
finished
off
with
the
bathroom.
It's
not
something
that
we
had
added
into
that.
I
just
never
had
it
removed
from
the
planning
site
afterwards
from
the
design.
M
M
To
my
understanding,
no
actually
when
we
purchased
this
property,
I
think
everyone
was
kind
of
pleased.
There
was
a
lot
of
items
that
were
left
on
the
property.
We've
taken
a
lot
of
interest
to
it,
we've
cleaned
it
up:
we've
removed
some
metals,
some
campers
some
debris,
so
it's
actually
enhanced
the
backyards
of
some
people.
I
would
say
also,
but
no
there's
been
no
complaints.
Nobody
has
come
forward
and
spoken
with
me
directly
on
that.
I
B
All
right
we've
seen
no
questions
or
comments,
we'll
we'll
do
the
public
hearing
and
see
if
anybody
calls
in
all
right.
So
this
is
our
first
public
hearing
tonight.
This
is
for
the
applicant
danielle
yurka.
The
project
address
is
100
richard
ave.
This
is
a
site
plan,
review
and
species
permit
to
construct
a
new
single
unit
dwelling
with
four
bedrooms
in
the
r1
single
unit
dwelling
district.
C
If
there's
a
911
call
and
they
are
dispatched
richard
street,
it
is
impossible
to
get
to
this
potpourri
the
only
way
to
access
it
is
off
of
upper
vine
street
and
I
feel
that
this
property
needs
to
be
rezoned,
so
it's
listed
as
being
on
a
provine
street.
That's
the
only
access
to
the
property.
It's
landlocked.
C
The
other
thing
I
would
like
to
ask
there
is
supposedly
existing
water
and
sewer
lines.
My
question
is:
was
that
ever
approved
by
the
city
and
the
city
inspectors
that
work
was
done
after
hours
and
on
weekends
by
the
former
property
owners,
not
by
danelle
or
her
contractors,
but
the
previous
property
owners?
C
C
B
B
C
B
C
Right,
no,
I
think
that's
basically,
my
concern
is
the
9-1-1
issue
that,
if
you
dial
9-1-1
from
the
property
and
identify
as
100
richard,
that
there
is
no
access
from
richards
avenue
or
richard
street,
the
only
access
is
to
up
from
upper
vine.
I
think
it
should
be
zoned
to
be
an
upper
line.
Street
location
for
911
purposes,.
B
I
M
E
I
B
B
B
E
B
B
J
O
A
E
N
Yeah,
we
have
submitted
an
updated
plan
with
some
more
indications
and
measurements
so
that
you
can
really
see
what
we're
looking
at.
I
think
I'll
ask
ken
from
keystone
just
to
go
through
the
changes
that
we
made
in
response
to
both
your
comments
and
also
some
public
comments,
just
to
point
out
what
what
we've
changed
ken,
if
you
could
do
that,
that'd
be
great,
and
can
we
put
the
oh
there?
It
is
okay,
great.
O
I
O
Okay,
I'm
really
garbled
and
my
computer
just
shut
off
and
turned
back
on
what
we've
changed
since
the
last
meeting.
We
we
looked
at
the
comments
that
were
given
last
time
about
the
proximity
to
the
road
about
the
number
of
trees
that
we
were
taking
down,
as
well
as
the
proximity
to
the
driveway
entrance
across
clapham.
O
O
O
What
we
need
to
do
from
a
civil
engineering
standpoint
was
to
introduce
a
retaining
wall
on
the
south
edge
of
the
proposed
parking
and
drive
area.
This
is
a
substantial
renewal,
but
it
permitted
us
to
maintain
a
large
portion.
If
not
all
you
can
see
the
difference
between
the
two
site
plans:
the
existing
trees
that
buffer
the
southern
properties
from
our
proposed
area.
O
O
O
The
great
change
is
obviously
clapham
slopes
from
east
down
to
fairview,
about,
I
want
to
say,
60
feet
in
elevation
drop,
maybe
not
that
much.
It's
60
feet
from
one
corner
to
a
corner
diagonal,
but
even
though
it
is
a
a
three-story
building,
what
is
visible
at
the
road
edge
on
clapham
is
about
a
story
and
a
half
because
it
sits
down
lower.
O
N
O
A
number
yes,
we
did
a
number
of
issues
there
is
it
takes
away
from
the
parking,
but
it
also
now
puts
a
three-story
building
right
in
the
corner
there.
So
there
was
some
the
bull
impact
there,
as
well
as
removal
of
some
parking,
and
it
also
is
there's
quite
a
bit
of
gray
change
there.
What
was
what
was
the
nicety
of
where
we
played
the
building?
O
We
were
allowing
our
building
not
to
appear
so
big
because
the
back
end
of
the
building
or
the
north
and
east
edges
of
the
building
the
size
of
the
building,
I
shouldn't
say,
edges
they
need
north
sides
of
the
building
were
were
some
were
into
the
into
the
hillside.
They
were
basically
serving
as
our
retaining
walls
for
the
first
one
to
one
and
a
half
stories
of
the
building,
so
the
building
appeared
to
be
a
much
smaller
building
in
this
location.
O
If
we
moved
it
to
the
other
corner,
it
would
be
a
three-story
building
and
it
we
would
lose
parking
and
really
the
accessibility.
To
that.
The
way
we
have
placed
the
parking,
the
building
where
it
is,
someone
that
needs
wheelchair
access
would
come
right
into
the
second
story.
The
way
the
grades
are
down
below
there'd
be
quite
a
bit
of
ramp
and
site
redevelopment
to
get
that
to
work.
N
That's
all
the
changes
nick
that
we've
proposed
and
what
we've
looked
at
in
terms
of
responding
to
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
that
the
neighborhood
had.
I
also
for
some
reason.
I
thought
I
was
coming
to
see
you
today,
so
we
do
have
some
information
from
a
realtor
with
respect
to
there.
It
is
with
patrick
kelly.
The
executive
director
of
fairview
had
with
john
burns,
who
is
a
licensed
real
estate
broker
in
terms
of
his
reaction
to
the
concern,
the
property
values
would
be
diminished.
N
You
know
I'll
just
summarize
them.
Basically,
the
campus
already
exists.
It
probably
existed
before
some
many
of
the
homes
were
built
and
that
adding
an
additional
building
does
not
change
the
property
values
or
diminish
the
property
values.
If
that
was
going
to
happen,
it
would
have
already
happened
and
then
there's
some
just
anecdotal
information
about
a
2003
sale
at
the
top
of
american
e
street
for
38
000
and
then
2021
sale
for
at
the
same
look
same
area
for
36
500.
That's
an
18-year
span,
not
you
know.
Obviously,
a
big
difference.
N
N
N
This
is
obviously
a
social
services
agency
and
these
are
people
seeking
treatment.
These
are
the
people
that
we
want
to
support
and
also
with
respect
to
you
know
just
the
general
community
in
itself.
I
think
those
comments,
you
know
I'll
just
leave
those
to
the
commenters,
but
it
is
a
permitted
use,
so
it
this
isn't
a
special
permit
application.
I
don't
believe
it
is
a
it's
a
site
plan
application,
and
so
you
know
the
criteria.
N
A
F
It
would
be
a
different
situation
if
they
had
like,
sometimes
downtown,
we'll
see
a
gas
station
that
has
a
taxicab
company
that
has
a
plumbing
company
working
on
the
top
floor
of
it
or
something
like
that
and
then
you're
getting
multiple
users
crammed
onto
one
particular
spot.
That's
not
what's
happening
here
dissolve
the
same
use.
Okay,.
N
N
C
O
E
B
O
G
G
N
G
G
B
F
Just
so
that
when
we
have
to
listen
to
this
transcript,
or
we
have
to
look
at
this
transcript
in
the
future,
what
building
are
we
talking
about?
Is
the
potential
to
come
down
we're
looking
at
the
proposed
site
plan
with
the
new
building
and
the
new
arrangements?
The
parking
lot,
I'm
assuming
it's
one
of
these
down
at
the
lower
end
of
the
picture
is.
E
B
All
right,
so
this
is
the
public
hearing
continuation
for
the
applicant
fairview
recovery
services.
The
project
address
is
110
fairview
ave
as
well
as
14
to
18
clapham
street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
for
the
construction
of
a
20-bed
social
services,
building
on
an
existing
social
services
campus
and
an
ancillary
parking
area
in
the
r-3
residential
multi-unit
dwelling
district.
A
P
P
P
No,
no,
no
all
right
and
she
quoted
the
the
that's
an
issue.
Sarah,
the
people
that
are
occupying
that
bill
is
an
issue
okay,
because
the
rules
of
approval
are
projects
like
this.
They
state
the
pro-mount,
a
safe
environment
and
not
cause
substantial
injury
to
the
value
of
other
properties
in
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
Mr
burns,
I
don't
know
where
you
got
the
quotes
and
I
recognize
the
fact
that
addison
court
is
well
above
and
the
houses
you
also
quoted
by
mr
burns.
P
P
So
what
you
did
is
you
you've
quoted
three
areas
that
are
insignificant
to
the
value
of
property.
Now,
sarah,
if
you
want
to
quote
me
or
I
live
across
the
street
there,
okay,
and
if
you
want
to
put
your
name
on
the
dotted
line
that
my
value,
my
property,
will
not
decrease.
I
gladly
see
it
all
right.
I
give
you
a
chance
to
answer
that.
F
P
Right
respond
to
that,
okay,
when
she
gets
a
chance
all
right
this
this
and
furthermore
you
know
this
new
project
here
you
know
and
everything
where
they
put
it.
You
can
still
you
know
the
the
trees
you
plan
on
putting
there.
You
know
the
the
fir
trees.
Look
at
the
picture
you
have
on
the
display
now
those
trees
it
must
be
taken
in
the
winter
they're
bare
of
leaves.
P
Okay,
you
could
see
right
through
them.
Okay,
now
I
don't
know
where
you're
going
to
get
20
foot
tall
fir
trees.
You
know
you
have
a
problem
with
fur
tree.
You
need
20
foot
tall
fur
trees,
but
I
don't
know
where
you're
going
to
get
them
all
right.
Let's,
let's
hear
somebody
tell
me
where
you're
going
to
get
20
foot
tall
fur
trees,
then
I'm
not
going
to
see
them
that
building
right
now,
when
you
look
across,
you
know,
right
in
the
bottom
portion,
that's
pointing
down!
P
P
P
I
know
it's
not
within
the
approval
you're
supposed
to
take
a
look
at
the
property
that
around
there.
If
you
want
mr
burns
to
come
up,
let
him
assess
my
property.
Sarah,
let
him
assess
the
property,
the
ewings,
let
him
assess
the
prospects
of
of
the
hutchins
or
somebody
like
that
who
has
complained
or
the
building
on
a
corner
there,
all
right.
P
P
P
P
P
Across
which
shines
across
to
the
property,
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
look
at
the
corner
of
the
the
the
female
residence
building
now
walk,
go
across
their
driveway
to
the
other
side
of
the
road
go
up
here
tonight.
Come
on
up
here
tonight.
All
the
people
on
the
planning
board
look
at
where
those
lights
shine.
Look
at
all
the
light.
It's
looking
like
a
christmas
tree
up
here
and
they're,
going
to
put
probably
more
lights
in.
L
L
L
L
And
this
is
a
this
is
not
just
another
social
services
building.
I
think
we
have
to
be
very
specific
here
and
understand
what
they're
attempting
to
build
here.
This
is
a
crisis
center
and
you
don't
put
a
crisis
center
in
the
middle
of
a
quiet,
residential
neighborhood
and
just
to
verify
that
on
friday
I
spoke
to
an
official
in
oasis
oasis
is
the
office
of
addiction
services
and
supports
they
oversee
operations
at
fairview
recovery.
L
I
spoke
to
an
official
in
the
commissioner's
office
and
she
told
me
that
to
her
knowledge,
they
never
cite
crises
centers
in
residential
neighborhoods.
If
they
can
help
it
and
fairview
recovery
can
certainly
help.
They
have
a
lot
of
options
in
binghamton.
They
don't
have
to
build
this
here,
so
this
is
not
just
another
residence.
This
is
not
another
hotel
for
people
who
are
being
rehabbed.
L
L
L
This
is
not
the
location
for
this,
and
and
they
don't
even
have
in
the
parking
lot
that
they're
they're
drawing
it's
not.
It
doesn't
even
cover
the
people
that
are
parking
on
the
street.
Now
emergency
vehicles
on
clapham
street
it'll
destroy
the
street.
It's
a
it's
a
it's
a
secondary
street.
It's
it's
not
even
wide
enough
and
emergency
vehicles
day
and
night.
L
Nobody
in
any
way
supports
this,
and
our
feeling
is
fairly
recovery.
Services
has
gone
as
far
as
they
can
go
on
this
property.
There
are
too
many
cars
as
it
is.
There
are
too
many
clients
wandering
around
the
streets
unsupervised
as
it
is,
and
there's
just
too
much
extra
traffic
ever
since
they
built
the
women's
center.
It's
just
a
it's
a
traffic
circle,
it's
terrible
and
and
to
suggest
to
putting
a
crisis
center
in
our
neighborhood.
I
can't
believe
it.
It
boggles
my
mind
they
really
this
this.
L
This
should
never
be
approved
and
oasis
said
they.
Never.
They
never
cite
these
things
in
residential
areas
and
they
were.
They
were
surprised
to
hear
it
we're
following
up
on
that
with
them,
but
this
is
a
terrible
idea
and-
and
anyone
who
cares
anything
about
taxpaying
homeowners
in
this
city,
shouldn't
support
this
we
are,
we
are,
it
will
destroy
the
neighborhood,
it
will
destroy
the
neighborhood.
L
L
B
E
A
J
J
J
People
don't
see
how
it's
not
going
to
interrupt
us,
even
in
the
summer
on
my
second
floor
likes,
come
in
from
the
fairview
recovery
center
to
come
into
our
bedroom
windows,
our
bathroom
window,
on
the
second
floor.
So
if
you're
gonna
put
any
more
lights
in
there,
that
is
also
going
to
be
disruptive
more.
So
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
want
to
leave
my
trees
out
back.
I
totally
do
and
are
trying
to
work
a
way
to
do
it.
J
But
again,
I
don't
understand
why
you
want
to
move
it
off
of
court
street
where
it's
easier
to
get
to
hospitals,
it's
easier
to
get
security
to
help.
I
mean
ambulances
up
here,
you're
going
to
be
it's
20
minutes
to
wilson,
it's
probably
15
minutes
to
lure
and
the
ambulance.
Sometimes
it
takes
10
to
15
minutes
to
get
up
here
and
I
I
don't
feel
that
the
neighborhood
people
are
being
listened
to.
J
E
A
B
E
A
B
J
N
Discuss
the
crisis
component
to
the
extent
that
ryan
seacrest
even
wants
that
conversation
held,
but
I
I
think
that
is
not
appropriate
if
the.
If
the
site
plan
requires
the
20-foot
trees
to
be
placed
at
planting,
then
that's
what
will
be
required
and
it'll
be
our
responsibility
to
do
that
again.
What
other
sites
might
be
appropriate
or
inappropriate
is
again
not
a
site
plan
consideration.
N
So
I'm
not
you
know,
I
I'm
not
going
to
waste
your
time
frankly
and
talking
about
where
else
it
could
go.
Obviously
there
are
many
other
locations,
but
that's
a
classic,
not
in
my
backyard
conversation
and
maybe
appropriate
to
a
special
permit
conversation
but
is
not,
in
my
opinion,
appropriate
to
a
just
a
regular
site
plan,
I'm
not
a
real
estate
agent,
so
I
don't
purport
to
be
able
to
talk
about
the
opinion
of
one
that
we
have
submitted
to
you.
N
With
regard
to
lighting,
obviously
that
is
something
that
can
be
controlled
and
if
the
neighbors
are
currently
having
issues
with
lighting,
they
should
report
that
to
fairview
they
can
modify
lighting
to
eliminate
you
know:
unwanted
intrusion
into
residential
homes.
Obviously
you
can
put
down
lighting
in
you
can
put
house
shields
on.
N
I'm
not
aware
that
there
have
ever
been
a
complaint
about
that,
but
I'm
sure
that
fairview
would
be
able
to
address
that
and
would
continue
to
address
that
with
the
new
with
a
new
parking
lot,
we
would
be
willing
to
accept
as
a
condition
the
removal
of
the
existing
house
that
we
showed
you
oh
wait.
We
believe
that
the
funding
agency
would
accept
that
as
a
condition
that,
frankly,
might
help
us
obtain
funding
to
get
rid
of
that
which
then
does
recruit.
You
know,
decrease
the
potential.
N
N
J
G
G
They
would
be
sent
to
the
hospital.
The
sirens
and
the
you
know,
day
and
night,
with
the
with
the
police,
cars
and
the
ambulances
would
not
happen.
This
is
a
referral
based
program
so
that
nobody
is
showing
up
just
unannounced
in
a
crisis
coming
to
our
building.
That
would
never
happen.
They
would
go
to
the
hospital.
They
would
go
to
helio
health
to
have
24-hour
emergency
round-the-clock
medical
care.
G
This
is
a
person.
That's
going
to
be
referred
to
us
worked
up
by
our
admissions
coordinator,
and
you
know
fared
it
out
to
make
sure
that
they're
appropriate
for
our
level
of
care
and
can
function
in
that
level
of
the
setting
and
they
would
be
brought
to
us
by
either
another
provider
or
their
family
or
friends.
G
G
When
somebody
leaves
our
service,
they
go
down
the
hill
and
they
are,
you
know
off
on
their
way
to
whatever
it
is
they're
looking
to
do
to
use
again
or
to
get
to
a
family
or
friend,
they're,
not
looking
to
break
into
somebody's
house
or
beat
somebody
up.
I've
never
heard
that
anybody
up
here
has
ever
been
that
they
have
felt
unsafe,
so
just
to
clarify
the
level
of
here.
G
G
The
same
lighting
has
been
there
since
2016
and
the
first
time
that
I
heard
that
he
had
an
issue
with
the
lighting
was
when
he
came
to
my
office
two
or
three
weeks
ago.
I
had
never
heard
about
it
before
we
would
have
absolutely
taken
care
of
it,
and
I
told
him
in
my
office.
I
would
address
it
and
he
said
no,
that's,
okay,
those
were
his
exact
words.
No,
that's!
Okay!.
G
Mrs
groves,
I
would
I
would
love
to
hear
what
the
complaint
is
and
take
care
of
it
for
you.
I
wouldn't
want
a
light
signing
in
my
house
either
something
that's
something
that
you
can
really
address.
So
I
would
I
would
you
know
I
found
it.
I
prided
ourselves
on
being
good
neighbors
up
here
at
fairview,
we've
never
had
any
major
issues
and
I
don't
see
any
issues
outside
of
what
we
already
have
occurring
in
the
future.
G
We're
just
trying
to
help
people
that
that
are
dealing
with
substance
use
disorder.
It's
not
a
mental
health
primary
locations,
so
they
their
mental
health
issues
are
secondary.
They
have
to
have
a
substance
use
disorder
first,
so
the
mental
health
is
like
depressing
anxiety,
it's
all
treatable
by
our
medical
director.
It's
not.
These
are
not
major
mental
health
issues
that
are
gonna.
You
know
be
spilling
out
into
the
community
as
far
as
people
walking
around
on
supervised.
That
does
not
happen.
G
It
did
happen
when
we
were
a
community
resident,
but
now
that
we
are
a
treatment
facility,
they
must,
whenever
they're
outside
of
the
building,
they
must
be
accompanied
by
staff,
so
be
seeing
any
of
our
folks
outside
the
building.
Unless
they're
at
this
site,
they
should
not
be
on
the
street,
so
you
know,
like
I
said,
we're
just
trying
to
help
out
it's
it's
a
building
that
would
help
out
our
programming
and
our
staffing
we
already
own
the
property.
B
All
right,
I
guess
the
the
only
other
thing
I've
noted
here
was.
I
think
dan
commented
that
there's
there's
already
not
enough
parking
on
site
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
parking
on
the
surrounding
streets
and
that
adding
another
use
on
the
site
is
going
to
increase
the
amount
of
parking
happening
on
the
the
streets.
Do
you
want
to
anybody
want
to
comment
about
that.
J
N
N
G
No,
that's
actually
what
I
was
going
to
say
as
well
we're
trying
to
remedy
that
issue.
I've
spoken
with
mr
gracie
at
length
many
times
about
that,
and
while
it's
a
public
speech
and
anybody
can
park
on
it,
I
understand
this
concern,
and
so
we
have
been
we've
been
looking
at
that,
and
this
actually
would
take
care
of
that.
If
those
folks
that
are
on
that
suit
would
move
into
our
parking
lot.
The
people
that
are
in
the
parking
lot
now
would
move
up
to
the
other
parking
lot.
G
Well,
first
of
all,
the
patient
would
never
would
not
be
being
brought
to
us
by
an
ambulance.
If
an
ambulance
was
required
for
a
patient
in
the
community
right
now,
they
would
be
going
to
a
hospital.
The
people
that
leave
our
building
in
an
ambulance
are
experiencing
medical
issues,
a
variety
of
things.
G
They
have
nothing
to
do
with
with
why
they're
or
not
that
they're
not
a
direct
result
but
they're
like
physical
issues
of
why
they
they
come
up
here
with
an
ambulance
to
take
something
they
might
not
be
feeling
good.
Their
heart
might
be
racing
a
little
bit
fear
of
a
heart
attack,
something
like
that.
It's
not
it's
not
life
or
death
situations.
G
B
G
B
B
So
if
nobody
else
has
any
other
comments
or
questions,
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
for
a
I'm
sorry.
I
do
see
that
mr
mazza
has
his
hand
raised,
unfortunately,
so,
based
on
the
rules
of
the
planning
commission
review
process,
the
only
time
that
we
take
the
public
comment
is
during
the
the
public
hearing
portion
of
the
meeting,
which
is
over
and
closed,
so
we
won't
open
it
back
up.
B
These
meetings
are
not
a
dialogue
between
the
residents
or
people
calling
in
and
the
applicant,
but
but
we
do
appreciate
your
comments
from
when
they
were
made
all
right.
So
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
that
the
for
a
negative
declaration
under
seeker
based
on
the
following
items
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulation
no
or
small
impact?
B
F
B
A
B
F
I
would
do
is
I
point
to
the
third
question
you're
going
to
answer
on
that
sheet.
His
proposed
action
impair
the
quality
or
quality
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
community,
and
that's
sort
of
what
you're
talking
about
is
the
impact.
So
it's
a
pretty
rare
circumstance
where
the
seeker
goes
one
way
and
the
ultimate
decision
goes
the
opposite
direction.
Okay,.
F
A
To
that,
for
the
purpose
of
seeker
to
say
that
there's
a
large
impact,
it
would
have
to
be
a
very
large
impact,
but
at
the
same
time,
outside
of
seeker.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
what
I'm
highlighting
here.
You
do
have
these
standards
for
site
plan
review,
yeah-
and
these
are
these-
are
criteria
that
green.
A
So
these
are
the
10
criteria
that
you
want
to
be
looking
at
and
then
compatibility
compatibility
with
general
character.
Neighborhood
is
one
of
those
things,
so
you
can
issue
a
negative
declaration
under
seeker,
but
still
take
issue
with
one
of
the
items
from
one
or
more
of
the
items
from
the
site
plan
review.
Okay,.
A
We
haven't
had
a
positive
declaration
in
a
very
long
time,
but
there
is
a
process
where
they
would
have
to
basically
demonstrate
to
the
commission
that
that
there
will
not
be
a
negative
impact
and
that
they
will
be
mitigating
those
impacts.
Okay,
they
would
have
to
draft
an
impact
statement
to
show
that
any
potential
environmental
impacts
that
are
being
mitigated.
B
B
E
I
B
E
B
B
E
B
All
right
all
right
will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area
no
or
small
impact.
Will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkways
so
say
it's
a
small
impact?
B
Will
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
No
or
small
impact?
Will
the
proposed
action
impact
existing
public
or
private
water
supplies
or
public
or
private
wastewater
treatment,
utilities
no
or
small
impacts?
Will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources,
nor
small
impact?
B
Will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
the
natural
resources,
for
example,
wetlands,
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality,
flora
or
fauna,
no
or
small
impact?
Will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems,
no
or
small
impact,
and
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health,
no
or
small
impact
so
based
on
all
of
those
I'll
make
a
motion
for
a
negative
declaration
under
seeker.
I
B
B
K
B
F
B
F
B
E
B
B
I
think
if
this
project
had
all
been
presented
at
one
time
with
the
two
different
buildings
that
were
added
to
the
site,
the
women's
center
and
then
this
one
as
well,
if
it
had
all
been
presented
at
one
as
one
project
I
would
have
said
back
then
that
it
was
too
too
congested.
It's
too
much
for
that
neighborhood
to
handle,
and
so
I
think
the
density
of
the
proposed
use
on
the
site
is
it's.
B
I
E
B
I
E
B
F
F
G
F
E
F
Why
I
would
recommend
tabling
it
is
that
a
failure
to
act
is
not
a
denial,
and
there
is
some
indication
that
a
failure
to
act
can
be
deemed
or
in
a
timely
manner,
could
act
as
an
approval.
That's
why
I
believe
that
it's
in
your
best
interest
as
a
board
to
have
it
heard
by
the
entire
board
that
can
hear
it
and
then
make
a
motion.
A
K
K
B
K
K
K
A
That
person
actually
submitted
comments
and
is
aware
of
the
meeting,
not
sure
what
to
say
about
that
other
than
that
we
did
leak.
You
know
we
did
public
noticing
and
the
date
of
this
meeting
was
announced
on
the
record
at
the
last
meeting
and
the
person
saying
that
they
weren't
aware
it
was
made
aware
at
some
point
because
they're
present.
K
K
F
A
A
B
B
All
right,
perfect,
all
right,
so
unless
the
and,
if
the
plans
don't
change,
then
the
public
hearing
is
still
closed.
It
would
just
be
a
continuation
of
the
site
plan
review
portion
of
the
project
all
right,
but
people
from
the
public
are
still
welcome
to
to
log
in
and
listen
to
how
that
goes.
So
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
We'll
see
you
back
in
august.
B
All
right
so
that
concludes
public
hearings,
just
as
a
summary
for
that
last
project,
for
I
know,
there's
people
on
listening,
so
the
project
was
not
approved.
It
was
not.
It
was
not
denied
full
out.
The
applicant
requested
a
tabling
until
the
next
meeting,
where
it'll
be
reviewed
again
in
theory,
with
all
planning
commission
members
present
to
get
a
full
vote.