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CONTENTS
0:00:50 Call to Order
0:02:30 81 State Street
0:23:05 127 Murray Street
0:46:30 15 Charles Street
1:09:20 91 Front Street
1:22:00 407 Court Street
1:28:40 138 – 140 Washington Street
1:46:30 75 Court Street
A
Hello:
everyone
welcome
to
the
February
meeting
of
the
city
of
Binghamton
Planning
Commission.
My
name
is
Nick
Corker
and
I'm.
Currently,
the
chairman
of
this
commission,
which
is
comprised
of
local
community
members,
tasked
with
reviewing
site
plans
and
special
use
permits
for
consistency
with
the
standards
and
criteria
set
forth
in
the
city
of
Binghamton
code,
based
on
our
total
number
of
Planning
Commission
members.
Four
members
must
be
present
to
constitute
two
decorum
tonight.
We
have
seven
members,
which
means
we
do
have
a
quorum
and
can
proceed.
A
C
B
A
A
In
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
the
Planning
Commission
will
be
reviewing
documentation
provided
by
applicants.
For
the
first
time,
applicants
will
be
called
to
the
microphone
where
they
will
be
asked
to
make
a
presentation
describing
their
plans
to
the
commission.
Commission
members
May
then
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
to
clarify
any
items
that
are
unclear
and,
after
all,
questions
have
been
answered.
The
commission
will
deliberate
and
then
either
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
the
project
or
request
additional
information
before
proceeding.
A
So
while
applicants
that
we'll
be
presenting
tonight,
we
ask
that
you,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
our
records
before
beginning
your
presentation
and
ask
that
any
member
of
your
team,
who
will
be
speaking,
please
give
their
name
and
address
for
our
public
record
tonight.
Our
first
secret
determination
is
for
the
applicant
Diane
King.
The
project
address
is
81
State
Street,
and
this
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
the
establishment
of
an
eating
and
drinking
establishment
in
a
below
grade
commercial
tenant
space
in
the
C2
downtown
business
district.
A
C
E
B
E
G
D
I'm,
renting
I'm,
renting
the
space
from
from
Jimmy
and
I
wanted
to
at
least
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I'm
paying
rent
on
it
right
now,
but
I
wanted
to
open
up
like
a
sports
car,
have
a
little
food,
have
a
little
seat
because
I'm
from
New
York
and
we
used
to
always
go
to.
You
know
the
walk,
downs
and
the
atmosphere
is
a
little
different.
D
When
you
walk
down,
you
know
you
could
be
an
older
person
or
a
younger
person,
but
I'm
not
going
to
have
that
fast,
music
going
on
and
all
of
that
hip-hop
stuff
I
mean,
but
young
people
will
be
able
to
hear
their
music
too
I'm.
Looking
for
something
that's
like
kind
of
subtle-
and
you
know
man,
it
might
be
for
older
people.
D
E
A
E
I,
don't
think
you
should
I,
don't
think
she
was
necessarily
like
Western
men
if
she
meant
that
she's
trying
to
make
we'll
still
have
Aqua
yeah
as
our
like
mainstream
whenever
they
give
Aqua
it's
our.
The
Space
is
really
big.
We're
looking
forward
to
to
do
like
more
cultural
stuff,
maybe
more
like
private
events.
Have
we
been
doing
it
like
in
the
past?
Haven't
we
so
we
can
continue
doing
but
aqua
well,
yeah
as
you'll
still
be
open,
as
well
as
a
new
location,
gotcha.
Okay,.
H
Steve
well,
I
think
I
fit
the
demographic,
because
I
mean
that
in
between
I,
like
sports,
so
this
place
sounds
like
something:
I'd
probably
visit
talk
through
some
of
the
modifications
to
the
space,
so
I
think
many
of
us
are
familiar
with.
It
is
the
the
downstairs:
what
used
to
be
the
Terracotta-
and
maybe
we've
been
in
this
building
some
time
ago,
but
talk
us
through
some
of
the
the
modification
work
that
you
plan
to
do.
D
D
D
D
D
A
A
E
C
B
E
I
think
she
got
more
confused
about
the
question
about,
like
the
infrastructure
then
entered
the
core.
Okay
I
think
she
was
talking
about
like
yeah,
we're
gonna,
have
lights
and
tables
and
like
a
nice,
Decor
stuff,
rather
than
the
infrastructure
and
the
safety
element
of
it.
Okay,
so
could
you
I'm
sorry?
Could
you
say
the
question
again?
Maybe
I
could
explain
it
to
her.
Well.
A
C
B
D
E
E
E
J
E
E
G
Yeah
one
more
question
this
actually
is
directed
towards
planning
and
Corp
Council
and
I'm,
going
to
step
on
a
landmine,
so
I
apologize
in
advance
for
this
I
have
vague
memories
that
somewhere
up
and
down
that
block
of
State
Street.
There
was
an
underground
establishment
that
was
attempted
and
was
either
closed
or
denied,
or
there
was
some
sort
of
there's
some
sort
of
problem.
Is
there
some
sort
of
additional
scrutiny
that
we
as
the
planet
Creations
should
be
considering?
Even
this
is
one
of
those
underground
subsurface
locations.
K
I
can
speak
to
the
last
application
at
this
location
was
proposed,
hookah
lounge
that
actually
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
It
just
never
opened,
and
then
there
have
been
other
establishments
that
were
underground
assembly
spaces,
but
those
I
believe
were
all
sort
of
private
amenity
spaces
where
tenants
of
buildings
versus
versus
public
exactly
yep.
E
K
A
K
That
that'd
be
a
question
for
the
building
department.
I
I
did
send
these
drawings
to
the
building
department
and
they
said,
but
just
based
on
a
cursory
review
as
proposed
it
looks
like
they
are.
They
they
are
checking
all
the
boxes.
Okay,
they
would
have
to
get
into
details
on
a
lot
of
things
during
the
building
permit
process,
but
it
he
said
it
does
seem
like
it
complies.
Okay,.
A
B
B
I
I
I
know
we
do
our
best
to
keep
the
city
looking
its
finest
and
so
I'm
just
hopeful
that
we
can
be
assured
that
that
won't
be
a
problem
that
there
won't
be
lingering
and
and
people
really
just
spending
too
much
time.
It'll
always
be
clean
in
the
morning.
There
won't
be
a
myriad
of
Cups
and
and
bottles
and
excess
that
out
there
all
the
time.
That's
something
that's
really
important
to
us.
Well,.
L
L
A
All
right,
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
proposal
involves
the
ReUse
of
an
existing
commercial
building,
which
is
a
type
2
action
under
seeker
and
that
no
further
environmental
review
is
required
all
right.
Second,
by
Kelly,
all
in
favor
all
right,
seven
in
favor,
zero
opposed
and
I'll
make
a
motion
to
schedule.
A
public
hearing
at
5
20.
at
our
March
meeting.
A
A
Just
no
further
environment:
okay:
let's
do
it
right
now.
One
last
motion
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
going
to
be
lead
Agency
for
that
last
project
for
the
non-seeker
review
that
we're
doing
all
right
seconded
by
Chris,
all
in
favor,
all
right,
seven
in
favor
zero
opponents
all
right
all
right.
Our
next
secret
determination
is
for
the
applicant
Flower
Hill
Hub
LLC
project
address
is
127
Murray
Street.
M
M
No
even
closer
okay,
okay,
it's
a
glorious
old
building
with
original
moldings,
High
ceilings,
big
doors,
solid
doors,
hardwood
floors
and
I've,
always
at
coveted
the
the
attic
which
at
one
point
was,
was
attached
to
an
exterior
staircase.
Certain
improvements
had
been
made
to
the
Attic
in
in
contemplation
I,
believe
of
future
development,
and
here
we
are
with
with
adequate
space
and
resources
to
improve
the
third
floor
and
add
some
some
density
to
to
the
building
smaller
sized
Apartments.
M
The
two
apartments
we
propose
are:
one
is
slightly
below
500
square
feet.
The
other
is
slightly
above
500
square
feet.
We
have
discussed
with
our
architect
the
building
code
issues
relating
to
a
third
floor
in
this
type
of
structure,
and
we
think
we'll
be
able
to
to
manage
that
I
think
we
needed
a
special
use.
Permit
to
add
these
additional
units.
Don't
feel
that
this
is
going
to
unduly
encumber
the
neighborhood
with
traffic,
where
people,
to
the
contrary,
probably
the
more
people
the
better
we
were.
M
We
would
like
to
ask
for
relief
from
the
strict
parking
requirements.
Many
of
the
of
the
tenants
we'd
had
in
the
past
didn't
have
cars.
They
were
students
walking
to
the
bus,
grad
students
generally
and
relieving
relieving
the
the
buffer
could
be
offset
by
the
fact
that
there
is
almost
a
solid
fencing
between
us
and
the
neighbors
there's
also
existing
vegetation,
although
not
Evergreen
type
Shrubbery,
admittedly,
and
there's
lovely,
there's
Nice
Landscaping
in
front
and
I
think
that's
what
what
we
see.
M
I
Have
you
looked
at
any
ways
to
sometimes
we've
looked
at
things
and
I
know
these
guys
are
pretty
clever
and
come
have
come
up
with
some
great
ways
to
turn
seven
into
nine
by
just
changing
some
things.
Have
you
looked
into
having
anybody?
Look
at
the
the
application
of
where
the
spaces
would
go
in
that
area
that
you're
going
to
be
Paving.
M
H
H
M
We've
had
couples
before
somebody
wants
to
couple
up
in
the
studio.
I
think
that's
a
little
bit
tight
myself
and
in
general
students
that
we
had
rented
to
in
the
past
lived
there
singularly
grad
students
occasionally
were
a
couple
in
the
one
bedrooms.
Presently
there
are
three
one
bedroom
and
four
studio
apartments.
A
All
right,
I'm
just
going
to
lay
everything
out
on
the
table.
So
recently
we
went
through
the
code
over
the
course
of
several
months
and
revised
it
in
a
way
to
discourage
people
from
doing
exactly
what
you're
proposing
here
with
not
having
the
ability
to
provide
the
parking
on
site
in
an
attempt
to
limit
these.
Sometimes
people
call
them
beehives
of
Apartments
buildings
that
are
getting
carved
up
into
lots
of
small
units
that
just
are
cramming
as
many
people
into
them
as
possible.
A
M
I
I'm
I
am
very
cognizant
of
oh
wearing
out.
Apartments
I
I
have
apartments
in
Poughkeepsie,
I
have
a
four
bedroom
apartment,
I
tell
them
poor
people
they're
going
to
be
four
people,
they're
not
going
to
be
anymore.
You
can't
pay
more
I,
I,
don't
want
that.
Wear
and
tear
that's
been
my
only
experience
with
that
sort
of
thing,
but
it
has
a
very
large
foyer.
It's
not
carved
up
like
like
many
single-family
houses
got
carved
up
into
three
units.
M
M
M
There,
I
have
made
inquiries
to
the
school
district
parking
lot
across
the
street.
I
think
it
would
be.
I've
mentioned
this
to
the
planning
department
and
to
Shaylin
that
Mr
Patel
I'm.
Sorry,
if
I
I've
forgotten
how
to
pronounce
his
first
name,
that
I
thought
the
school
district
would
would
love
to
raise
more
money
by
renting
parking
spaces
to
people
at
night.
M
B
A
Okay
between-
and
this
is
just
my
comment-
I'm,
not
speaking
for
everyone-
I'm
just
curious-
it
does
appear
that
there
might
be
a
way
to
get
two
additional
parking
spaces
in
that
back
parking
area.
I.
Think
if
you
were
able
to
do
that,
then
you
would
meet
all
the
requirements
of
the
what
we
went
through
a
big
back
and
forth
to
get
the
code
revised
to
to
reflect
because
you'd
be
able
to
provide
all
of
the
parking
that
you
need
on
your
property
and
not
rely
on
the
street
parking
and
I'm
just
worried.
M
M
Thank
you
again
that
parking
then
becomes
kind
of
tight
and
we
would
need
to
discuss
relief
from
the
I'm,
not
proper,
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
proper
term.
The
the
turning
lane
that
you
back
into
maybe
we
I,
think
we're
quite
close
to
that.
If
the
buffer
is
eliminated,
I
could
have
the
architect
review
that
and
and
and
then
ask
for
the
relief
on
the
turning
lane,
but
by
providing
nine
we're
more
than
happy
to
blacktop
at
all
and
I
think
cars
are
getting
smaller,
I
hope.
G
I'll
say
this:
I
I
share
Nick's
concerns.
I
have
at
times
been
one
who
votes
against
proposals
when
they
don't
have
sufficient
parking,
even
if
I,
maybe
only
one
or
two
that
do
vote
no,
because
my
experience
from
the
friends
and
neighbors
that
have
expressed
concerns
to
me,
especially
some
of
these
West
Side
neighborhoods,
is
that
if
there's
seven
kids
living
in
a
house
somehow
there's
eight
and
a
half
cars
at
that
house.
Every
kid
brings
their
car
because
they
all
want
their
own
cars.
G
I
I,
like
the
aspiration,
the
kids
are
going
to
be
using
bicycles
and
they're,
using
public
transportation,
and
maybe
at
some
point
when
we
go
all
electric
vehicles
and
they
can't
buy
gas
guzzling
cars,
but
I
think
until
2035.
When
those
laws
begin
Statewide,
we've
got
to
be
prepared
for
seven
kids
in
a
house
having
22
cars
much.
H
G
I
think
you've
disclosed
it
so
that
it's
remedied
and
concerned
also
just
from
experience
from
developments
in
that
neighborhood
they,
the
school
board,
has
never
in
the
years
that
I
know
ever
agreed
to
rent
them.
In
fact,
and
to
answer
your
question,
I
have
seen
where
they
do
tow
cards
at
Park
there
illegally,
so
that
is,
that
is
their
policy,
so
you
can
let
your
tenants
know
that
even
the
existing
ones.
K
So
they
need
a
variance
for
the
landscape
buffer
requirement,
so
they've
already
eliminated
the
landscape
bumper
to
try
to
get
as
many
spaces
in
as
they
can
that.
That's
the
variance
that
they're
seeking
right
now
I
can
say
that
that
the
planning
Department's
perspective
is
that
Paving,
the
entire
backyard
would
be
undesirable.
K
So
our
perspective
would
be
that
to
lose
a
space
or
two
is
better
than
to
Asphalt
the
entire
rear
yard,
and
then
I
also
want
to
point
out
that,
as
far
as
the
density
of
a
number
of
units,
a
lot
of
the
legislation
or
all
the
legislation
that
we've
been
passing
to
prevent
that
sort
of
thing
has
been
to
prevent
the
addition
of
too
many
bedrooms
to
a
unit
which
results
in
a
large
group
typically
of
unrelated
people.
Typically,
students
living
together.
K
M
Just
to
give
you
a
picture
of
this
building,
you
walk
in
two
sets
of
double
doors,
Each
of
which
is
three
feet
wide.
You
have
a
over
a
six
foot
wide
foyer
that
goes
in
to
a
rather
elegant
four
and
a
half
foot
wide
staircase
going
up.
It
does
not
give
the
appearance
of
of
it
being
a
carved
up.
Building
I,
don't
know
if
that
helps
at
all
in
terms
of
the
picture,
but
it
might.
A
I
I'm,
okay
with
if
we
have
that
public
hearing
and
nobody
comes
to
complain
about
parking
on
the
street
being
a
problem
and
there's
no
issue
of
neighborhood
density
or
anybody
concerned
about
you.
Adding
two
apartments
to
your
building.
I'd
be
okay
with
the
plan,
just
as
it
is.
If
the
planning
department
is
okay
with
that
I,
don't
know
how
everyone
else
feels
about
that.
But
okay
Kelly
agrees.
H
I
had
similar
concerns
about
the
parking
I
mean
it
seems
harmless
enough,
but
then
somebody
else
on
the
Block
says
I
want
to
increase
my
occupancy,
let's
throw
another
two
cars
and
two
cars,
and
because
we
allowed
it
here
can't
tell
them
no
later.
At
the
same
time,
this
sounds
like
the
kind
of
quality
work
that
we
want
to
encourage
as
a
city,
so
I
think
I
land
in
the
same
place
as
you
that
if
nobody
comes
to
complain
about
it,
then
I
don't
see
why
I
would
object
to
it
either.
B
G
I
would
also
add
that
you
do
have
the
option
if
you're
already
going
to
the
zoning
board,
there
is
I,
don't
know
how
close
of
call
it
is
on
the
I
o
wits.
There
can
be
variants
of
the
I
o
width.
Obviously,
at
some
point,
when
you
shrink
the
aisle
with
it,
just
becomes
impatible,
but
there
may
be.
If
it's
a
matter
of
a
foot
or
two
or
a
couple
of
inches,
there
may
be
room
to
get
a
variance
from
Iowa.
G
L
L
Because
there's
there's
a
half
a
space
at
each
end
that
are
empty,
I
mean
it's
not
used
and
seven
stops
and
there's
maybe
a
six
foot
space
and
on
the
left
side
of
one
it
looks
like
six
foot,
but
maybe
those
can
be
brought
down
just
a
touch
to
get
eight
I.
Don't
know
there
might
be
a
reason
for
those
like
a
setback
or
something,
but
you've
got
seven
where
it's
nine
foot
three
is
a
typical
space.
It
looks
to
me
like
about
a
four
foot
Edge
on
each
side.
A
B
K
The
the
Planning
Commission
has
the
authority
to
reduce
the
number
of
parking
spaces,
so
you
wouldn't
have
to
have
it
done
for
the
zoning
board.
You
would
have
to
have
that
revised
before
the
next
Planning
Commission
meeting
in
March,
and
it
would
just
be
a
matter
of
showing
an
additional
space
on
that
rear
lot.
I.
M
I
I
would
like
to
thank
you
very
much.
I'd,
also
like
to
say
that
my
experience
has
been
with
Studios
and
ones.
There
is
never
more
than
one
car
and
much
different
than
a
four
or
five
bedroom
apartment
I.
Don't
know
why
that
is
it's
the
self-selecting
of
a
studio
or
a
one
and
the
lucky
ones
that
that
have
boyfriends
or
girlfriends
Partners.
Maybe
it's
because
the
ones
who
are
self-selecting,
Studios
and
ones
are,
are
not
having
partners
in
college.
N
Their
comments
were
along.
The
lines
of
the
city
should
consider
compatibility
of
design
color
material
over
proposed
new
shed
Dormer
roof,
exterior
egress,
staircase
porches
and
exterior
stairs
with
historic
character
of
the
house
to
the
extent
possible,
given
a
proximity
of
the
site
to
the
local
landmarks
into
the
national
register,
State
historic
districts
and
sites
responses
to
Seeker,
historical
and
archaeological
questions.
M
G
Counties
asking
them
to
look
forward.
You
can
ask
your
architect
to
provide
a
colored
rendering
of
the
of
the
drawings
of
what's
outside
or
what
new
materials
and
color
choices
are
going
to
be.
That
would
meet
that
requirement
or
give
them
the
information
to
answer
those
questions
from
the
county.
Thank.
O
A
All
right,
any
other
questions,
comments
concerns
all
right.
Seeing
none
all
right,
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
Planning
Commission
should
be
lead
Agency
for
Seeker
review,
but
that
the
proposal
involves
a
reuse
of
an
existing
residential
building,
which
is
a
type
2
action
and
no
further
environmental
review
is
required
all
right,
stickered
by
Manny,
all
in
favor,
all
right,
seven
in
favor,
zero
opposed
and
I'll
make
a
motion
to
schedule.
A
public
hearing
for
the
project
at
5
25
at
our
March
meeting,
all
right,
so
goodbye
Kelly,
all
in
favor.
A
Yes,
all
right:
seven
in
favor,
zero
opposed.
Yes,
so
we'll
have
you
back
for
the
March
meeting,
we'll
have
a
public
hearing,
let
anybody
from
the
community
who
wants
to
speak
about
the
projects
way
in
and
it
would
be
helpful.
Probably
if
you
had
the
revised
plan
submitted
to
Tito
before
that
meeting.
So
we
were
looking
at
the
final
plan
that
you
want
to
approved
at
that
meeting.
Absolutely.
M
A
All
right,
our
next
secret
determination
is
for
the
applicant
Addiction
Center
of
Broome
County
project
address
is
15
Charles
Street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
to
convert
the
basement
of
an
existing
mixed-use
building
to
Social
Services
use
a
warming
station
in
the
I2
light
and
medium
industrial
districts.
O
Okay,
so
just
by
way
of
background,
the
Addiction
Center
of
Broome
County
has
been
an
anchor
institution
in
Broome
for
almost
50
years
we're
turning
50.
Next
year
we
have
a
main
location
in
Binghamton
on
West
State
Street,
with
three
satellite
locations
amongst
our
satellite
locations
and
main
office.
We
serve
nearly
1
000
individuals.
O
So
there
was
an
opportunity
over
the
summer
for
a
provider
to
come
forward
and
establish
a
warming
Center,
and
we
currently
don't
have
any
warming
Center
in
Broome
County.
So
what
what
that
would
entail
is
that
individuals,
if
they
had
no
place
to
go
when
it
was
32
degrees
or
below
they
could
come
to
the
warming
Center
at
five
o'clock
in
the
evening.
We
would
provide
dinner
for
them.
We
would
provide
supervision
and
oversight
and
monitoring
and
they
would
leave
in
the
morning.
We
could
give
them
breakfast.
O
We
could
help
them
get
connected
to
appointments
in
the
morning,
help
them
navigate
DSS
needs
get
to
any
medical
appointments
that
they
needed
to
go
to
and
just
for
reference.
In
my
conversation
with
Broome
County
Department
of
Social
Services
today,
the
county
is
paying
for
310
hotel
rooms
for
people
per
night
right
now
and
unfortunately,
that's
not
meeting
the
need.
There
are
many
individuals
that
are
turned
away
because
they're
told
we're
full.
There
isn't
any
other
place
that
we
can
send.
O
You
try
to
find
a
warm
place
to
stay
tonight
and
there's
other
barriers
too.
There
could
be
people
that,
if
you
have
more
than
two
children,
you
can't
have
more
than
two
children
in
the
hotel
room,
so
there's
situations
that
it
doesn't
meet
the
needs
of
families.
If
you
happen
to
have
more
than
more
than
two
kids.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
context
of
what
we're
dealing
with
right
now,
so
we
we've
been
in
a
process
of
looking
for
a
place
for
a
bigger
clinic
since
2016.
O
we've
looked
at
many
many
places
and
and
finally
we
were
able
to
purchase
15
Charles,
so
our
hope
is
and
what
we
would
like
to
do
and
why
we're
here
is
that
in
the
basement
of
15
Charles,
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
open
up
the
warming
station
and
be
able
to
provide
overnight
sleeping
accommodations
for
for
40
people.
Our
intent
is
to
focus
on
single
people
so
that
it's
easier
for
individuals
with
families
to
be
placed
in
hotels.
O
So
we
would
provide
the
services
for
individuals,
and
it
also
is
helpful
that
they
have
some
supervision,
monitoring
and
support
because,
as
you
might
imagine,
you
know,
these
are
individuals
that
maybe
have
unstable
mental
health
or
have
substance
use
issues
and
having
Clinical
Services
having
peer
Services
would
help
people
be
more
stable.
You
know
we
have
a
gentleman
that
we're
working
with
right
now
he
got
kicked
out
of
his
hotel
last
night.
O
O
It
allows
us
to
consolidate
our
Binghamton
operations.
We've
been
renting,
30
West,
State,
Street,
477,
West,
State,
Street,
457,
West,
State
Street,
and
it's
very
confusing
for
our
clients
to
figure
out
which
office
am
I,
walking
to
and
difficult
us
for
us
as
a
staff
that
we
don't
all
fit
in
one
place
anymore.
O
So
we
also
intend
to
provide
more
jobs
right
now.
I
need
probably
25
more
staff
and
I
have
no
room
to
put
anyone
so
being
in
a
larger
space.
We'd
be
able
to
provide
more
jobs.
We
want
to
provide
it
also.
You
know,
as
we
are
able
to
do
more
with
the
building,
we
could
provide
storage
for
clients,
laundry
showers
on
the
first
floor,
we'll
have
our
Clinic
we'll
have
medical
services
and
the
second
floor
we'd
like
to
have
case
management,
a
separate
unit
for
our
children,
about
50
of
our
clients.
O
O
P
I
think
when
I
poured
the
building
well,
what
was
impressive
is
that
it
it's
been
renovated.
It's
not
a
typical
old
building
that
you
know
requires
I
mean
it
does
require
a
lot
of
work.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
even
the
basement
huge
ceiling,
see
I
mean
where
it
doesn't
feel
like
a
basement.
They're
very
well
constructed
I.
You
could
lose
me
in
the
building
I
we
got
lost
around,
but
it
really
is
a
tremendously
big,
big
building.
I.
P
So
I
think
also
in
terms
of
just
the
need
I've
just
started
working
with
this
organization
as
a
volunteer
for
legal
work
and
I've
certainly
had
no
idea
that
we
as
tech
there
are
paying
about
17
000
a
day
to
House
people
and
I.
Don't
know
where
all
that
money
comes
from
I'm
sure
it's
different
agencies
and
things
like
that.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
that's
all
coming
from
our
tax
dollars
and
it
seems
like
an
extremely
inefficient
way
to
handle
what
is
a
real
crisis.
C
P
Zero,
it
also
the
hotels,
are
really
fortunate
to
have
this
kind
of
a
need,
but
they're
not
all
treating
clients.
Well,
we
have
a
lot
of
reports
of
you
know
you
don't
get
toilet
paper,
you
don't
get
blankets,
you
get
into
that
sort
of.
That's
it
so
I
mean
this
is
an
opportunity
to
to
address
a
problem
that
is
not
going
to
go
away
and
so
hopefully
free
up
those
rooms
for
families
that
you
know
really
with
kids.
That
really
need
to
be
in
up
these
things.
C
O
As
far
as
supervision
and
monitoring,
we
do
have
staff
that
would
be
trained
like
a
one
one
staff,
member
per
six
individuals
that
come
in
with
kind
our
cap
being
at
40
and
the
staff
are
trained
in
opioid
overdose,
reversal,
they're,
trained
in
crisis,
de-escalization
and
crisis
management
and
they're
trained
in
trauma.
So
our
we
would
have
you
know
a
safe,
secure
space
for
the
people
and
unfortunately,
in
January,
a
young
woman
did
die
in
a
hotel.
L
P
O
And
I
I
guess
it's
also
important
to
note
that
other
counties
already
have
their
warming
stations
up
and
running
like
Cortland
is
running.
Oneonta
is
running,
broom
has
actually
schlepped
some
people
out
to
Oneonta
Syracuse
has
their
warming
station
up
and
running.
So
if
there
is
any
consideration
that
we
can
give
to
kind
of,
have
this
happen
as
soon
as
we
can
like
the
need
is
very
dire.
O
I
O
Our
hope
is
to
focus
on
single
individuals
so
that
a
family
could
go
to
DSS
and
and
be
placed
in
a
hotel
room,
but
there's
actually
like
plastic,
clear
plastic
dividers
that
would
be
between
each
cot.
So
we
would
try
to
take
care
to
kind
of
separate
men,
women
you
know
like.
If
there's
kids,
we
might
have
to
try
to
come
up
with
a
different
plan,
even
if
we
have
to
kind
of
on
the
spot,
identify
a
hotel
room
for
them
to
go
to.
A
P
G
O
We
have
identified
like
candidates
to
hire
I
just
I
can't
give
them
a
start
date.
You
know
until
we
have
the
approval,
so
we've
kind
of
already
you
know
like
have
the
budget
design.
We
have
the
funding
commitment,
you
know
it's
a
matter
of
kind
of.
You
know
us
working
through
this
process
and
then
you
know
we
do
have
candidates.
O
G
K
K
The
law
says
it
has
to
be
public
for
seven
days
and
the
paper
had
their
policy,
for
we
can
ask
them
if
they'll,
you
know,
they'll
put
the
notice
out
sooner
than
they
usually
do,
but
ever
since
it
switched
to
again
it's
been
sort
of
more
corporate
and
less
you
know
and
there's
nobody
really
to
talk
to
they.
It's
just
what
their
policy
is.
K
A
P
A
H
The
question
this
is
more
for
the
chair
or
or
Tito
than
the
applicant,
so
this
is
a
warming
Center,
but
on
paper
on
poster
board
looks
like
a
temporary
shelter.
If
the
applicant
wanted
to
expand
the
use
of
this
for
any
different
time
of
the
year,
would
that
have
to
come
back
before
us
or
we
approve
this
and
it
could
be
used
for
temporary
shelter
whenever
they
saw
fit
to
do
it.
K
P
Only
thing
we've
had
considered
in
this
space
is
cooling
as
well,
not
not
out
there.
The
other
thing
is
from
the
regulatory
process
wrong.
There
are
different
regulations.
If
you
actually
out,
you
know
not
just
warmth,
and
we
haven't
gone
through
that
problem,
yet
Dr
D
yeah
that
regulatory
process,
so
we
don't
really
have
the
power
to
do
anything
else.
The
only
thing
that
we,
if
this
goes
well
and
there's
a
need,
we
might
also
do
food,
but
in
the
same
model.
J
H
B
L
Is
for
more
of
the
long-term
use,
looking
at
the
picture
here
right
near
where
the
abandoned
cogeneration
plant
was,
if
you're
thinking
of
eating,
you
might
be
able
to
look
at
some
of
the
infrastructure.
That's
left
there
and
see
if
you
could
get
what's
called
a
district
heat
over
to
those
buildings,
not
sure
that
it
would
work.
L
But
looking
at
the
pictures
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
substation
and
some
other
facility
and
improving
the
same
thing,
you
can
have
an
electrical
for
air
conditioning
and
you're,
not
you're
with
an
Arm's
Reach
of
that
site
of
the
code.
Gun
Site
I,
don't
know
if
it's
available
or
not,
but
there
is
a
consideration
with
Transformers
and
other
equipment
approving
and
burning
gas
loads
that
you
might
have
equipment
right
in
your
backyard.
B
A
Second,
by
Steve,
all
in
favor
all
right,
seven
in
favor,
zero
opposed
and
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
will
pull
the
Planning
Commission
tomorrow
and
determine
the
best
dates
that
a
quorum
can
be
convened
and
have
a
special
public
hearing
for
this
project,
all
right
seconded
by
Chris,
all
in
favor
all
right,
seven
in
favor,
zero
post.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
right.
A
J
Yeah,
so
it's
been
a
parking
lot
for
the
parking
lot
from
McDevitt
Funeral
Home,
and
it's
been
used
in
the
last
few
years
for
Peterson's
department
and
also
it's
part
of
the
approval
for
the
housing
converted
88
Front
Street
your.
There
were
some
parking
spots
that
were
committed
to
that
lot,
which
we
are
still
going
from
honorably
the
Amicus
who
bought
and
the
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
parked
in
the
Metro
Center.
J
Q
Is
and
also
I
had
criminal
citations,
which
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
people
had
that
were
landowners
around
here,
and
it
was,
for
you
know
the
trail
of
bread,
cups
at
college
students
kind
of
believe.
So
this
is
like
kind
of
a
resolution
towards
that
as
well
as
it
would
protect
a
lot.
It
would
have.
You
know
worse.
J
Q
J
J
Q
And
also
I,
don't
know
if
this
would
qualify
as
a
change
of
use,
as
it
was
always
a
commercial
parking
lot.
So
when
I,
when
I
read
the
the
statement
earlier
was
like
change
of
use
to
a
public
parking
lot,
but
public
is
this
would
not
be
a
definition
of
a
public
parking
lot.
Maybe
commercial
parking
lot.
K
So
in
2018,
when
the
applicant
came
before
the
Planning
Commission
to
convert
the
funeral
home
into
housing
and
and
to
use
the
parking
lot,
91
Front
Street
is
ancillary
parking
that
made
the
land
use
for
that
parking.
Lot.
Ancillary
parking
going
from
parking,
that's
dedicated
to
another
use
private
use
to
parking,
that
is
a
commercial
Enterprise.
That's
the
change
of
use.
K
C
Q
J
Q
J
G
Q
J
G
G
J
A
J
B
A
K
Q
Q
B
J
H
B
A
Q
J
G
A
K
B
G
Gentlemen
is
below
state
law.
They
require
us
to
do
that.
If
it's
within
a
certain
number
of
feet
of
public
County
facility
or
State
Highway,
we
have
to
send
to
them.
They
have
30
days
to
respond
and
provide
comments
if
they
recommend
denial
that
it
takes
a
super
majority
of
the
body
to
approve,
but
they'll
usually
come
back
with
General
comments,
and
you
have
to
address
those
comments.
A
A
Stick
around
all
right.
The
next
next
secret
determination
is
for
the
applicant
Garrison
paw.
The
project
address
is
407
Court
Street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
for
the
construction
of
a
364
square
foot,
one
story,
sales
office,
building
on
an
existing
vehicle
sales
lot
in
the
C1
service,
commercial
District
welcome.
S
L
A
S
A
H
A
H
J
B
G
G
Would
it
be
appropriate
to
ask
the
applicants
before
any
public
hearing
to
separate
from
the
site
drawing
that
they
provided
to
provide
for
some
sort
of
a
I?
Don't
know
what
I'm
looking
for
is
I'm,
not
an
architecture
engineer,
but
some
sort
of
like
a
visual
model
of
what
this
shed
is
going
to
look
like
like
a
elevation
plan.
I
mean,
is
that
the
word
I'm
looking.
S
J
S
A
S
S
A
S
A
J
A
A
All
right,
our
next
secret
determination
is
for
the
applicant
Michaela
bargnoli
project
address
is
138
to
140
Washington
Street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
for
the
construction
of
a
new
two-story
2000
square
foot,
eating
and
drinking
establishment
in
the
C2
downtown
business
district,
a
familiar
face.
R
J
T
Good
evening,
everyone
nice
to
see
everyone.
This
is
Mark
Parker
from
Keystone
Associates,
who
has
prepared
the
the
documents
and,
just
as
a
a
brief
recap,
I
am
the
the
owner
of
the
parcels
at
138,
140
142,
Washington
Street.
Those
three
Parcels
will
be
Consolidated
together
as
part
of
this
project
and
I.
Believe
some
of
you
are
aware
that
there
used
to
be
a
building
at
this
location
that
actually
burned
down
I
believe
about
22
years
ago,
New
Year's
Eve
2000.
T
T
Pub
Tavern,
sort
of
restaurant,
Pub
and
I
think
what
might
make
this
a
little
bit
different?
Is
we
want
to
incorporate
or
utilize
a
portion
of
outdoor
space
as
well,
which
there
are
not
really
a
lot
of
places
in
downtown
that
had
a
lot
of
outdoor
space?
Certainly
there's
a
high
degree
of
similar.
You
know
restaurants
and
taverns
downtown,
but
with
the
outset
of
covid,
et
cetera,
I
think
that
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
something:
that's
a
little
bit
different
and
have
some
indoor
and
outdoor
space
and,
of
course,
Washington
Street.
T
T
In
other
areas,
you
know
across
the
city,
so
what
we
are
looking
for
tonight
is
respectfully
approval
to
move
forward
with
a
project
at
this
location
and
we're
also
seeking
the
the
waiver
from
the
Planning
Commission
of
the
33
percent
setback
requirement
for
the
rear
of
the
building.
That's
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
able
to
do
so,
I
believe
there's
a
20-foot
setback
that
was
required
and
the
plans
that
we've
submitted
shows
a
15
we'll
be
utilizing
a
15
foot
setback
so
that
you
know
approximate
of
five
feet.
T
Our
timeline
is,
is
pretty
aggressive,
we're
hoping
that
we
get
our
approvals.
Obviously,
at
this
meeting
and
we're
able
to
begin
to
move
forward
and
place
our
orders
through
a
Portland
company
that
would
be
building
the
the
steel
building
and
then
the
site
work
would
begin
in
preparation
for
that
building
which
the
materials
would
arrive
in
the
next
four
to
six
weeks,
and
our
goal
would
be
to
be
open
this
summer.
T
T
We
have
been
very
diligent
with
with
our
plans
and
I
just
want
to
add
that
the
the
different
departments
that
we've
worked
with
from
the
city,
whether
it's
planning
or
building
or
zoning
I,
have
been
really
great
to
work
with
and
help
us
expedite
this
project,
and
it's
just
great
to
see
the
the
administration
have
such
a
a
pro-business
stance
in
trying
to
help
small
businesses
advance
and
come
to
fruition.
So
that's
the
the
concept
that
we
have
and
certainly
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
anyone
has.
K
Nick
I
just
want
to
clarify
something:
I
still
hope
you
think
we're
pro-business,
but
this
needs
a
public
Hearing
in
March.
So
this
would
have
to
go
to
the
March
meeting.
So
it's
not
possible
for
a
vote
tonight.
It
would
need
a
public
meeting,
a
public
Hearing
in
March
and
and
we
still
need
to
wait
for
County
comments
as
well.
A
B
B
G
G
K
T
J
A
A
B
A
T
Sure
well,
I
I
would
say
that
over
the
course
of
eight
years,
I
received
a
lot
of
calls
regarding
garbage
storage
collection,
lack
thereof
in
that
approximate
location
of
downtown.
So
that's
something
that
we
I've
actually
spent
a
lot
of
time
with.
So
our
we
would
do
what
many
of
the
other
businesses
do.
We
would
have
a
private
caller
come
in.
T
You
know
a
a
partner,
and
one
of
the
comments
that
I
made
to
the
the
Cod
members
earlier
is
that
you
know
with
regards
to
the
design
of
the
building.
You
know
we
want
to
do
things
that
you
know,
preserve
and
protect
the
integrity
and
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
as
is
we
are
looking
to
blend
in.
We
want
a
lot
of
brick
facades
that
are
consistent
with
you
know
the
neighboring
brick
buildings,
brick,
colors
and
I-
have
a
well-lit
area
that
incorporates
States.
T
G
T
That
was
that
was
something
that
was
communicated
very
early
on
on
the
project
and
I'll,
probably
just
reconnect
with
Tito
on
exactly
what
we
need
to
do
to
do
that
I,
don't
think
it's
a
time-consuming
process
to
do
it,
but
and
I'm
not
sure
why
those
were
originally
too
Parcels
to
begin
with,
and
the
third
was
actually
purchased
by
the
city
many
years
ago.
So
we,
the
plan,
would
be
to
incorporate
into
one
I
think
that
makes
perfect
sense,
and
you
know
when
we
get
our
approvals.
G
Information,
it's
a
very
simple
process.
There's
a
formula
for
allow
you
list
your
three
tax
parcel
numbers.
You
submit
it
to
the
assessor.
She
makes
the
changes
in
the
role
it
goes
to
the
county
and
it's
done
a
year,
but
it's
something
you
apply
for
and
it
happens
at
the
next
role,
which
is
coming
up,
though
right
coming
up
in
March,
May
1st,
and
it's
usually
when
they
put.
T
K
Have
30
days
and
that
that
starts
when
they
get
the
final
drawings,
and
so
they
have
30
days
from
today.
We
can
ask
them
for
expedited,
review
and
they've
been
able
to
do
that
in
the
past,
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
mention
to
the
board
that,
since
you
are
looking
to
have
a
special
meeting
for
the
other
applicant,
you
could.
You
could
put
this
on
you're
done.
But
if
you,
if
you
chose
to,
but
we
still
are
kind
of
depending
on
the
county,
to
get
expedited
comments
when.
T
G
J
B
G
J
G
G
G
K
A
A
Square
feet:
four
thousand
all
right
all
right,
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
Planning
Commission
should
be
lead
Agency
for
secret
review,
but
this
is
a
type
2
action.
So
no
further
environmental
review
is
required
because
it's
the
construction
of
a
building,
that's
under
4
000
square
feet,
all
right.
Second,
by
Steve,
all
in
favor,
all
right,
seven
in
favor,
zero
opposed
and
I'll
make
a
motion
to
schedule
a
public
hearing
at
our
special
meeting,
which
is
going
to
be
in
about
10
days.
From
now.
A
All
right
that
concludes
secret
determinations.
So
now
we're
on
to
public
hearings
all
right
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting.
We
will
be
holding
open
public
hearings
to
obtain
public
opinion
in
regard
to
specific
projects
that
are
up
for
review.
Applicants
will
be
asked
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
a
brief
presentation
describing
their
project
for
most
projects.
This
is
the
second
time
we
were
reviewing
your
information,
so
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
could.
A
Please
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
your
project,
to
remind
us
what
you're
planning
and
then
clearly
identify
any
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
last
time.
We
saw
you
when
the
applicant
is
done
presenting
and
any
clarifications
have
been
reviewed,
we'll
we
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
allow
members
of
the
community
to
speak
about
the
applicant's
proposal
after
the
commission
has
heard
from
all
community
members
interested
in
speaking
tonight.
The
public
hearing
will
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
deliberate
to
our
applicants
when
your
project
name
is
called.
A
F
A
A
All
right,
no
questions
or
comments
All
right,
so
we're
going
to
open
a
public
hearing.
So
if
you
guys
don't
mind
if
you
take
a
seat
in
the
sure
to
open
the
microphone
for
anybody
who
wants
to
speak
all
right,
so
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
Damien
J
Cornwell.
The
project
address
is
75
Court
Street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
the
establishment
of
a
cannabis
retail
business
in
an
existing
commercial
tenant
space
in
the
C2
downtown
business
district.
F
F
B
F
A
All
right
all
right,
so
this
was
a
type
2
action
under
Seeker,
so
there
was
no
further
environmental
review
required.
So
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
requirements
for
site
plan,
review
and
special
use
permit
have
been
met
all
right
seconded
by
Kelly,
all
in
favor
all
right.
That's
seven!
In
favor,
zero
opposed.