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From YouTube: Planning Commission 2022.12.12
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CONTENTS
0:00:00 Call to Order
0:02:30 131 Hawley Street
0:11:00 183 Water Street
0:17:15 26-34 Wall Street
0:25:45 221 Washington Street
1:31:15 110 Fairview Ave.
2:34:00 Rezoning of 115-135 Conklin Ave.
A
All
right,
hello,
everyone
welcome
to
the
December
meeting
of
the
city
of
Binghamton
Planning
Commission.
My
name
is
Nick
Corcoran
I'm.
Currently,
the
chairman
of
this
commission,
which
is
comprised
of
local
community
members,
tasked
with
reviewing
site
plans
and
special
use
permits
for
consistency
with
the
standards
and
criteria
set
forth
in
the
city
of
Binghamton
code,
based
on
our
total
number
of
Planning
Commission
members.
Four
members
must
be
present
to
constitute
a
quorum
tonight.
A
A
A
Motion
by
Joe
to
approve
all
right,
second
by
Chris,
all
in
favor,
all
right,
six
in
favor,
zero
opposed
all
right.
Foreign
next
item
on
the
meeting
agenda
are
Seeker
determinations,
so
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
the
Planning
Commission
will
be
reviewing
documentation
provided
by
applicants.
For
the
first
time,
applicants
will
be
called
to
the
microphone
where
they
will
be
asked
to
make
a
presentation
describing
their
plans
to
the
commission.
Commission
members
May
then
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
to
clarify
any
items
that
are
unclear
and,
after
all,
questions
have
been
answered.
A
The
commission
will
deliberate
and
then
either
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
the
project
or
request
additional
information.
Before
proceeding
to
all
the
applicants
that
we'll
be
presenting
tonight,
we
ask
you,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
our
records
before
beginning
your
presentation,
and
we
ask
that
any
member
of
your
team,
who
will
be
speaking,
please
give
their
name
and
address
for
our
public
record
all
right
so
for
tonight.
A
C
C
C
C
C
C
F
G
A
A
A
A
On
to
the
next
part
of
our
meeting,
which
is
public
hearings
and
Final
deliberations,
all
right
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting
we'll
be
holding
open
public
hearings
to
obtain
public
opinion
in
regard
to
specific
projects
that
are
up
for
review,
applicants
will
be
asked
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
a
brief
presentation
describing
their
project
for
most
projects.
This
is
the
second
time
we
were
reviewing
your
information,
so
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
could.
A
Please
give
a
brief
overview
of
your
project
to
remind
us
what
you're
planning
and
then
clearly
identify
any
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
last
time.
We
saw
you
when
the
applicant
is
done
presenting
and
any
clarifications
have
been
reviewed
reviewed.
We
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
allow
members
of
the
community
to
speak
about
the
applicant's
proposal
after
the
commission
has
heard
from
all
community
members
interested
in
speaking
tonight.
The
public
hearing
will
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
deliberate
to
our
applicants
when
your
project
name
is
called.
A
Please
come
to
the
microphone
and
start
off
by
giving
the
name
and
address
of
any
members
of
the
applicants
team
that
are
planning
to
speak
for
our
public
record
and
anyone
from
the
community
that
will
be
speaking
tonight
in
regards
to
a
project.
Please
also
start
off
by
stating
your
name
and
address
for
our
records
for
anyone,
unfamiliar
with
the
format
of
a
public
hearing.
We
will
be
opening
the
microphone
to
solicit
public
comment
about
specific
projects
that
are
up
for
review.
A
Public
comments
should
be
directed
to
the
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
staff,
and
not
directed
towards
the
applicant.
It's
not
acceptable
for
any
member
of
the
public
to
enter
into
any
form
of
discussion
with
the
applicant
directly.
During
the
meeting.
The
commission
members
will
take
note
of
any
specific
questions
or
comments
that
come
up
during
the
public
comment
portion
of
the
meeting
and
when
there
are
no
additional
community
members
wishing
to
speak
about
the
project,
the
public
hearing
portion
of
the
meeting
will
be
closed
and
the
applicant
will
be
given
a
chance
to
respond.
A
A
I
A
J
J
We
required
a
variance
for
both
the
lot
coverage
and
the
setback
which
was
granted
by
the
bza
last
week,
as
well
as
a
height
variance,
which
we
don't
think
we
will
need,
but
we
request
it
anyway.
Just
in
case
the
building
has
structural
components
get
finalized
through
design.
We
have
an
extra
five
feet
of
leeway
on
the
building
pipe.
A
All
right
all
right:
well,
let's
do
the
public
hearing
and
see,
if
anyone's
here,
to
speak
about
the
project
all
right.
So
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
United
group,
Pike
development.
Joint
venture
project
address
is
183
Water
Street,
and
this
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
the
construction
of
a
10-story
building
with
a
549
vehicle,
public
parking
garage
and
120
upper
story,
dwelling
units
in
the
C2
downtown
business
district.
A
A
J
H
A
A
All
right,
our
next
public
hearing
tonight
is
for
the
applicant
Chabad
house.
The
project
address
is
26
to
34
Wall
Street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
experiment
for
the
conversion
of
the
ground
floor
of
an
existing
office
building
into
a
place
of
worship
in
the
C2
downtown
business
district.
L
A
H
L
H
A
All
right
so
we'll
open
the
public
hearings,
so
this
is
a
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
Shabbat
house.
The
project
address
is
26
to
34
Wall
Street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
the
conversion
of
the
ground
floor
of
an
existing
office,
building
into
a
place
of
worship
in
the
C2
downtown
business
district.
M
G
E
L
It
looks
like
a
warehouse
right
now
or
you
know,
maybe
an
office
building,
but
we
do
plan
on.
You
know
changing
it,
just
to
look
a
little
bit
more
warmer
and
more
for
the
vibe
of
a
community
center.
You
know
so
that's
that
that
is
in
the
plans.
We
don't
have
that
down
to
the
details
yet,
but
that
is
in
the
workings.
Okay,
you're
gonna
say
something
I'm.
Sorry.
A
I
was
just
going
to
ask:
are
you
opposed
to
when
you
so
there's
some
curb
cuts
that
are
going
to
be
removed
when
the
parking
lot
gets
reconfigured
or
relayed
out?
There's
some
curb
Cuts
driveway
openings
that
aren't
needed
anymore?
Are
you
opposed
to
doing
the
work
to
fill
those
in
just
redo,
the
curb
and
the
sidewalk
to
no.
L
Not
in
principle
I
would
be
interested
to
see
what
specifically
they're
recommending
and
you
may
notice
that
the
layouts
for
the
parking
spaces
is
very
different
than
it
currently
is
anyway.
It
just
goes
a
whole
different
way,
so
in
all
likeliness
we're
going
to
have
to
anyway
make
changes
to
the
access
point.
Also,
it's
right
now.
It's
an
open
parking
lot
like,
let's
be
honest,
random
people
park
there
at
night,
there's
no
accountability,
so
we're
probably
gonna
put
something
up
to
keep
it
more
intact.
A
G
Mayor
I
want
to
say
there
are
two
on
Henry
Street
that
are
being
eliminated,
and
then
the
one
on
Center
Street
is
being
reduced
from
basically
the
width
of
the
parking
lot
to
a
24
foot
apron.
So
basically,
what
the
county
is
saying
is
that
the
changes
that
were
made
to
the
site
plan
should
be
should
be
built
out
structurally,
so
so,
where
your
architect
Drew
new,
curb
and
sidewalk,
where
there
used
to
be
ramps.
That
should
be
that
that
should
be
filled
in
with
a
sidewalking
curb.
H
A
H
A
If
we
just
made
it
a
a
conditional
approval
that
the
ultimately
the
site
work,
that's
done
on
the
property
is
going
to
look
like
the
site
plan
that
was
submitted
you're.
Okay
with
that,
yes,
okay,
is
everyone
else?
Okay,
with
that,
making
that
conditional
approval
all
right.
Any
other
questions
concerns
comments.
A
H
A
A
A
A
A
All
right,
our
next
public
hearing
tonight
is
for
the
applicant
Stonebridge
campus
living
project
address
is
221
Washington
Street.
This
is
a
site
plan,
modification
to
add
basement
social
assembly
space
to
multi-unit
dwelling
with
12
existing
units
and
45
total
bedrooms
in
the
C2
downtown
business
district.
O
We've
provided
some
renderings
to
get
a
visual
of
what
the
space
will
now
look
like
upon
approval,
as
well
as
a
diagram
of
an
overview
of
what
the
space
will
look
like,
as
well
as
identifying
approximately
eight
cameras
in
the
basement
to
provide
the
commission
an
understanding
of
what
the
vantage
point
of
those
cameras
will
consist
of,
and,
of
course,
if
there's
any
additional
comments
or
information
that
the
commission
needs
we'd
be
happy
to
provide
that
or
answer
any
questions.
Today.
H
A
A
H
A
Right
and
it
looks
like
you're
showing
so
you've
got
a
workout
room
and
then
a
couple
of
study
cubicles,
maybe
and
then
a
relatively
larger
open
space,
but
certainly
not
as
large
as
the
entire
building
before
and
then
another
partition
and
another
open
space.
That's
broken
up
by
what
looks
like
maybe
a
little
living
room,
TV
room,
okay,
I'm
in
laundry
room
and
basement
bathrooms
all
right
all
right!
Well,
let's
do
this.
A
Let's
let
people
who
are
here
to
speak
about
the
project,
do
it
in
the
public
hearing
and
then
we'll
we'll
reconvene
all
right.
So
this
is
the
continuation
of
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
Stonebridge
campus
living
project
address
is
221
Washington
Street.
This
is
a
site
plan,
modification
to
add
basement
social
assembly
space
to
multi-unit
dwelling
with
12
existing
units
and
45
total
bedrooms
in
the
C2
downtown
business
district.
J
Q
Good
evening,
good
evening,
chairman
Commissioners
Council
and
members
of
the
planning
board
and
the
public
at
large,
who
is
here
today
reviewing
from
home
I'm
here
today
to
speak
on
the
behalf
of
the
tenants
at
221,
Washington
Street
I
want
to
start
out
by
sincerely
apologizing
for
our
absence
at
the
previous
public
hearings.
As
we
were
unaware
and
unsure
of
specific
procedures.
Q
I
stand
before
you
today
to
ask
you
to
approve
the
application
that
would
allow
the
tenants
of
the
building
to
use
the
amenities
that
we
should
be
receiving
and
how
this
situation
has
been
detrimental
to
us,
most,
notably
financially,
similar
to
many
college
students.
We,
the
tenants
of
221
Washington,
are
no
stranger
to
tight
Financial
situations.
Half
of
the
residents
currently
have
part-time
jobs
to
finance
their
rent
tuition
and
day-to-day
activities.
Q
We
currently
pay
825
dollars
per
month,
plus
utilities
to
live
at
221.
and
the
individual
lease
contracts
that
we
have
signed
with
Stoneridge
campus
living.
The
contract
includes
an
amenity
space
that
is
supposed
to
have
a
full
access,
laundry
room,
fully
equipped
gym
study
rooms
and
a
relaxing
hangout
space.
Q
Q
If
we
were
to
say
give
an
arbitrary
number
to
what
portion
of
our
rent
goes
towards
this
amenity
space,
given
similar
apartment
rates
and
square
footage
and
currently
functional
amenity
spaces
in
the
area.
Let's
say
a
hundred
dollars,
for
example,
you'd
find
that
the
tenants
of
221
Washington
Street
have
paid
over
30
thousand
dollars
combined
more
than
what
we
have
been
receiving
due
to
the
condemnation
of
this
basement,
and
that
does
not
include
the
aforementioned
expenses.
We
incurred,
replacing
the
amenities
that
we
have
failed
to
receive.
Q
These
incidents
occurred
prior
to
the
current
tenants
inhabiting
221
Washington,
Street
and
I'd
also
like
to
address
the
concerns
in
two
parts.
First,
the
concern
about
the
building
over
the
past
few
years
under
previous
ownership
and
previous
tenants,
the
previous
regime
of
owner
and
attendance
I'll,
be
honest.
We're
not
the
best.
Neighbors
I
can
assure
you
that
the
people
living
there
now
have
no
connection
to
any
previous
tenants
under
former
ownership,
and
the
majority
of
the
current
tenants
did
not
even
live
at
the
building.
Q
When
the
basement
got
condemned
to
address
the
problems
the
shop
owners
and
neighbors
have
faced
more
recently.
There
are
multiple
buildings
down
the
street
that
have
massive
foot
traffic
of
tenants
and
college
students
that
come
down
Washington
Street
daily
to
get
there
and
back
whatever
they
may
be
doing
down.
There
is
none
of
our
business,
but
we
can
assure
that
none
of
these
instances
have
that
affected
the
shop
and
the
neighbors
have
any
connection
to
the
current
tenants
of
221
Washington
Street.
Q
With
these
new
floor
plans,
we
hope
to
show
our
neighbors,
the
members
of
the
board
and
the
community
that
we
are
not
a
harm
to
the
city
of
Binghamton,
but
rather
an
asset,
as
we
have
given
business
to
many
local
restaurants
and
businesses
in
the
area.
In
fact,
I
think
I
saw
at
least
eight
of
our
tenants
eating
at
the
shop
eating
Crepes
and
hamburgers
the
other
day.
Q
R
R
Just
just
to
be
straightforward:
we
do
not
have
a
a
problem
with
student
housing
whatsoever.
I
I
have
students
living
up
upstairs
they're
they're.
Also,
most
of
them
are
our
employees
as
well.
We
house
them
we
feed
them.
We
give
them
employment.
We
write
their
recommendation,
letters
for
grad
schools
or
potential
employment
after
the
fact.
R
R
R
If
you
will
so
with
pouches,
and
you
know,
there's
a
gym
and
also
I
I
like
to
point
out
that
there's
a
laundry
in
the
building
upstairs
in
the
apartments
because
I
walked
through
this
building.
I
know
how
it
was
built.
I
was
there
before
it
was
even
walls
I've
seen
the
plans
I
walked
through
it
and
I
understand
what
it
is
so
but
I'm
sure.
R
S
How's
it
going
everybody.
My
name
is
Jacob
skolnik
I'm,
also
a
tenant
at
221
Washington.
First
of
all,
respect
all
restaurants,
everything
and
the
shop
it's
a
great
spot.
First
of
all,
there
are
no
laundry
machines
upstairs
just
I
lived
there
I
walk
down
five
flights
of
stairs
to
do
my
laundry
and
then
secondly,
I'm
a
senior
student
I've
been
living
there,
the
last
the
last
semester
and
I'm,
not
a
part
of
any
partying
social
thing.
S
S
Was
a
spa
with
a
basement
to
study
to
hang
out
I'm
pretty
relaxed,
like
low-key
I
mean
going
back
and
forth
the
laundry
all
this
stuff,
it's
all
kind
of
just
like
inconveniences
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
not
like
changing
my
life
or
you
know
for
Worse,
not
the
end
of
the
world,
but
obviously
you
know
for
the
students
of
Binghamton
I
think
that
it
could
be
a
really
nice
space.
I.
S
Don't
know
who's
living
there
next
year
or
whatnot,
I
I
came
with
a
couple
friends
and
thought
it
was
a
nice
spot
to
live,
but
obviously
I
mean
I.
Think
the
building
has
potential
to
be
a
really
nice
building
like
Holly
or
something
like
that.
I
think
that
developing
the
space
into
a
nice
Lounge
area,
you
know
really
just
makes
the
property
better
for
students
for
everyone
living
there
and
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
that
I
don't
see
a
downside
to
it.
S
Obviously,
if
there's
dangerous
things
going
on
I
mean
college,
kids
will
find
a
spot
to
do
dangerous
things
anyway.
You
know
I,
don't
know,
but
for
me
personally,
I
mean
I
hope
you
guys
can
I,
don't
know
see
where
I'm
coming
from
as
a
student.
That
was
a
problem
spot
I'm
kind
of
like
we're
paying
a
premium
at
the
at
the
place
for
like
a
nice
student,
housing
area
and
I
think
it
has
the
potential
to
be
a
really
nice
student
housing
area
so
yeah.
Thank
you
guys.
All.
E
Sure
my
name
is
Ben:
I
live
with
Jake.
Oh,
we
just
came
because
last
time
we
heard
that
you
guys
the
board
want
to
know
some
of
the
pendings
to
come.
So
we
heard
that
and
we
thought
we'd
come
I
didn't
know
if
God
had
this
thing
all
planned
out
already
because,
like
he
lives
underneath
me
me
and
Jake
live
up
on
fourth
floor.
E
So
obviously
a
lot
of
that
noise
wouldn't
really
reach
that
basement
area,
which
again
would
be
like
a
nice
hangout
area
for
us
also
just
because,
but
as
of
now
like,
if
we
want
to
go
hang
out
somewhere,
we
have
to
like
go
leave
and
either
go
to
campus
to
study.
We
don't
really
have
like
a
space
where
I
can
hang
out
in
congregate.
I
have
like
tenants
and
like
just
like
totally
hang
out,
because
you
know
all
those
college
students.
A
Q
I
apologize
for
the
second
visit
I
know
that
we're
not
really
allowed
to
respond
to
other
statements
made
of
the
public
hearing,
but
just
just
I
heard
one:
the
owner
of
the
shop
yeah
Rembert
sing.
This
building
has
the
pit
I
can
say
as
a
person
who
is
a
college
student
who
who
knows
what's
going
on
in
Binghamton
that
is
wholeheartedly
and
unequivocally
untrue,
the
the
pit,
what
he's
referring
to
is
actually
located
on
81
State
Street,
which
has
not
been
occupied
by
any
current
tenant.
Q
That's
living
in
221,
Washington,
Street,
so
I
feel
that
that
name
that
he's
trying
to
assign
to
this
building
is
slanderous
and
unfair.
All
right
also
that,
yes,
there
are
no
laundry
machines
above
the
basement.
They
are
definitely
all
in
the
basement.
You
know
we
can
easily
prove
that,
and
you
know
I
mean
you
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Q
We
just
want
to
be
able
to
have
access
to
the
amenities
that
we
are
paying
for
it.
This
is
you
know
we
can
go
back
and
forth
on
the
potential
of
this
space
or
the
potential
of
that
space
But.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
just
college
students
trying
to
get
by
struggling
to
get
by
financially
are
just
doing
our
very
very
best
to
get
the
best
grades
possible
and
enjoy
our
time
while
we're
here.
A
O
I
was
not
aware
that
any
of
the
tenants
were
going
to
be
present
today
offering
comments
at
the
public
hearing,
so
I'm
puzzling
surprised
to
see
that
they've
taken
time
out
of
their
busy
schedule
to
show
that
this
matter
is
very
important
to
them.
I
also
think
it's
been
helpful.
Those
comments
to
dispel
any
of
the
information
from
proponents
of
this
project
and
really
to
try
to
put
this
project
is
trying
to
do.
O
Is
move
past
any
of
this
past
history
about
this
and
really
transform
this
space
to
something
that
is
going
to
be
productive
and
positive
for
the
future,
regardless
of
who's
living
there
in
the
short
term
and
in
the
long
term,
and
so
we
think
that
by
transforming
the
current
space,
which
was
fairly
open
and
contained
a
stage,
a
bar,
a
DJ
set
section,
looked
like
it
was
ready
for
a
party.
Now
with
the
partitions
student,
the
study
rooms,
the
cameras
we
really
have
provided
I.
O
Think
promising
plan
to
that
is
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
that
will
I
think,
as
someone
mentioned,
try
to
prevent
any
issues.
Remember
happening
again.
We
think
that
this
accomplishes
that
and
if
there's
any
additional
information
about
the
plan,
specifically
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
those
questions
for
you.
A
H
F
Chris
yeah,
not
that
there's
anything
new,
so
I'm
not
going
to
believe
these
points,
but
just
some
of
the
points
were
brought
up
in
previous
Planning
Commission
meetings.
I
still
have
concerns
that
the
chief
of
police
has
expressed
opposition
to
this
plan.
I
I
have
concerns
that,
even
with
some
of
the
additions
on
the
revised
site
plan
and
floor
plans
are
still
large,
Open
Spaces,
which
could
be
used
for
a
party
room
if
tables
and
couches
are
moved,
there's
still
significant
opposition
for
some
of
the
neighbors.
P
H
A
All
right,
Brian
I,
think
we've
probably
gone
over
this
several
times
in
the
past,
but
have
we
ever
done
any
kind
of
conditional
approval?
That's
relies
on
the
applicant
not
getting
cited
by
the
police
in
the
next
like
two
years
and
if
they
do
their
site
plan,
is
approval
is
retracted,
or
is
that
something
that
we
have
the
authority
to
do.
F
A
F
A
Right
so
I'll
just
speak
candidly,
so
I
from
everything
that
we've
heard
from
the
the
tenants
and
from
the
applicant
I
feel
pretty
comfortable
that
they're
not
planning
to
do
anything.
That's
going
to
keep
promoting
these
the
problems
that
they've
been
having,
but,
as
somebody
has
pointed
out,
they
potentially
are
not
going
to
own
this
building
forever
and
who
knows
what
the
next
person
who
owns
it
is
going
to
do,
and
so,
if
there
was
something
that
we
could
do,
that
was
I.
A
F
F
But
I
always
advise
the
Planning
Commission.
You
should
review
these
plans
as
like
you're
looking
two
owners
from
now
in
10
years
or
20
years
from
now
yeah,
because
the
issue
is
Not.
Who
are
the
current
tenants
not
who
are
current
owners,
but
is
this
a
good
plan
on
it
standing
on
its
own
and
I
and
listen?
Some
people
will
also
propose
and
I
always
sort
of
cringe
at
them
like
operational
controls
for
these
types
of
issues
and
they're,
proposing
an
operational
control
here
are
the
cameras
10
years
from
now?
Are
those
maintained?
F
A
Right
so,
let's
say
just
hypothetically:
let's
say
we:
we
gave
an
approval
today
and
then
six
months
from
now
there
was
another
complaint.
The
police
show
up
there,
there's
an
actual
violation
of
some
sort
is
that
is
that
reflective
on
the
site
plan
in
any
way
or
there's
really
nothing
that
could
be
done
well.
F
We
won't
be
able
to
select
that
we're
not
having
site
plan,
that's
for
sure,
so
they
would
have
to
be
able
to
have
to
be
investigating
to
see
where
they
can
apply
the
site
plan
before
they
get
allowed
to
occupy
the
space.
Then
we'd
have
to
look
to
see
whether
it
was
being
operated
as
an
illegal
establishment.
Like
you
know,
like
the
pit
I'm
familiar
with
that
at
81
State
Street
with
the
group
that
ran
it,
we
were
able
successful
than
getting
them
to
move
out
of
there,
but
it.
F
U
U
F
Heard
the
word
congregate
a
lot
I
can't
speak
Authority,
but
my
recollection
was
that
establishment
was
or
vocation
may
have
been
an
Apes
location
as
well.
Okay,
that
is
but
I
am,
can
that's
going
off
reports
I
read
over
a
year
ago,
so
I
can't
remember
exactly
what
details
but
they're
confusing
with
the
different
case,
but.
F
U
Is
there
a
way
to
modify
this
plan
to
allow
for
the
gym
space
and
some
of
these
small
segregated
study
spaces
in
the
laundry
and
section
them
off
into
the
big
place?
That
would
be
more
for
the
congregating.
So
you'd
have
some
small,
very
small
study
spaces
for
people
to
go
in
individually
and
to
do
their
laundry
and
to
have
the
gym
space
without
a
larger
space
that
could
be
used
for
what
we're
potentially
trying
to
avoid.
E
P
P
So
the
first
floor
is
a
retail
tenant
that
obviously
brings
in
extra
financials
as
a
separate
from
our
residents.
It's
not
that
we
can't
but
we're
trying
not
to
jack
up
the
Run
even
more,
if
we're
paying
them
an
amenities
fee.
If
you
look
at
something
like
Holly,
Street
or
Chenango
place,
they
have
an
amenities
base
for
the
residents
are
not
taking
a
retail
tenant
away
so
kind
of
hard
to
pull
a
retail
tenant.
When
that's
a
separate
being
from
our
resonance
upstairs
all.
M
P
We
didn't
want
it
to
look
like
a
cubicle
office
space
because
obviously
that's
not
really
enticing
for
future
right.
So
if
I'm
renting
to
three
girls
all
different
tenants,
they
should
be
able
to
go
down
there
and
watch
you
know
TV,
but
like
they
won't
come
to
that.
All
that
you
see
right
there
where
the
pool
tables
are.
We
could
add
another
three
to
that
wall.
You
know.
F
H
F
F
study
rooms
that
are
all
partitioned
off
with
full
walls
and
everything
like
that.
Yes,
it
may
be
less
appealing
to
those
who
want
a
cubicle,
Farm
or
don't
want
to
farm,
but
I
think
it
may
address
some
of
these
overarching
concerns
about
even
it's,
not
you
and
your
current
tenants,
the
folks
five
years
from
now
who
are
turning
this
back
into
and
out
of
control.
You
know
Delta
house
from
Animal
House
yeah.
P
I
think
we're
really
focusing
you
know
when
I
walked
properties
like
you
club
and
Holly
Street
and
Chenango
Place,
something
like
that,
has
multiple
beds,
multiple
dwellings
and
and
they're,
not
having
10
12
15
cubicles.
They
have
spread
out
with
couches
and
nice
and
vending
machines,
and
these
these
amenities
for
the
residents
to
use
and
I.
P
Think
prior
applicants
is
what's
really
like
holding
everybody
up,
which
is
understandable,
but
I
think
that
if
we
just
has
an
amenity
space
and
we
go
forward-
and
these
are
individual
leases,
these
are
individual
people
and
we're
not
running
to
a
whole
group
like
the
Apes.
That
already
has
this
bad
name.
This
can
be
just
people
hang
out
three
people,
four
people
they
go
back
upstairs.
You
know
it
doesn't
have
to
be
something
and
I
think
with
us
and
on
cameras.
We
have
three
maintenance
staff
members.
A
Well,
it
sounds
like
there's
a
question
back
to
you,
then.
Do
you
want
to
take
another
look
at
reducing
the
amount
of
wide
open
space
and
submit
a
different
plan,
or
do
you
want
to
go
forward
with
it
as
it
is,
and
it
looks
like
we're,
probably
gonna
going
to
do
a
vote
if
you
want
to
proceed
with
this
plan,
as
is.
P
H
V
You
were
going
down
the
path.
I
was
thinking
about
continuing
I'm,
going
to
ask
the
question:
is
it
at
all
possible
to
get
the
fire
marshal
or
someone
to
take
a
look
at
this
before
we
go
farther?
My
own
view
of
this
is
I.
Would
not
I
would
abstain
from
voting
on
this
project
until
it
got
input.
At
least
the
cursory
look
from
someone
else,
because
I
am
concerned
about
the
level
of
safety,
sprinklers
alarms,
which
is
way
more
detailed
than
we
get
involved
with
the
planning.
V
P
I
will
speak
to
that.
We
could
send
you
the
reports
we
actually
just
worked
with
petkowski.
They
just
did
our
annual
five
and
ten
year
we
had
to
submitted
all
to
our
insurance.
We
have
full
sprinkler
systems
down
there.
Full
smoke,
alarms
carbon
dioxide,
two
fire
exits,
it's
not
having
to
walk
up
the
stairs.
You
can
walk
right
to
the
road
out
the
back
door
that
you
see
off
the
gym,
so
I
can
assure
you
it's
completely
fire.
P
F
B
All
right,
as
far
as
this
particular
plan
goes,
I
can't
speak
to
who
the
owner
is
going
to
be
five
years
from
now
anymore.
That
I
can
ask
the
applicant
to
speak
for
the
governor.
That
was
five
years
ago.
I
think
they've
been
very
forthcoming.
I
think
they've
put
together
a
solid
plan.
I
have
no
problem
going
forward
with
it.
A
F
H
U
A
F
P
B
F
If,
if
you're
well,
I
guess,
if
the
majority
of
the
board
is
wants
to
see
a
plan
right
now,
it's
only
two
people,
but
that's
what
they
want
to
see.
I'd
I
would
suggest
that
we
tell
the
applicant
exactly
what
you're
looking
for,
so
they
have
no
idea
what
they're.
So
it
doesn't
come
back
next
month.
If
you
get
a
safe
situation,.
F
O
B
P
P
I
would
never
do
anything
to
hinder
that
with
some
place
that
I
work
and
I
know
I
can't
stand
out
the
door
right
on
a
Saturday
night
or
Friday
night,
but
I
can
promise
you
that
I
am
very
aware
of
the
situation
and
I
respect.
Law
enforcement
and
I
would
never
put
them
in
a
situation
where
they
have
to
be
at
one
of
my
buildings
continuously
and
overuse
Emergency
Services,
where
they
need
to
be
used.
Other
other
places
for
sure
gotcha.
A
Well,
I
think
where
we're
at
is,
it
looks
like
unless
we,
so
we
could
do
a
vote
right
now
on
the
plan
that
we
have.
But
it's
looking
like
there's
at
least
a
few
people
that
will
they
don't
feel
comfortable
without
having
the
actual
plan
in
front
of
them
of
what
you're
you're
going
to
do
to
vote
Yes.
So
potentially
you've
got
a
few
no's
definite.
So
I'll
put
it
back
to
you
what
you'd
like
to
do
you
can
we
could
table
it
again?
A
F
I
can
tell
you
what
I
would
be
comfortable
voting
yes
on
I
want
it.
Honeycomb
I,
don't
want
any
potential
of
a
party
space.
I,
don't
and
I
know
that
may
defeat
what
you're
looking
for
in
this
special
use
permit.
But
my
attitude
is
underground:
open,
congregate,
spaces,
I'm,
an
automatic,
no
well
I'm
an
automatic,
no,
but
I'm
a
no.
So
if
you
want
to
break
this
up
into
10,
12
I'm,
just
sort
of
eyeballing,
this
study
cubicles
that
can
help
the
residents
do
their
studying,
prepare
for
their
CPA
exams.
F
P
Like
I
said
we're
just
really
trying
to
do
these
other
places
that
are
very
similar,
Shenango
Place,
Holly
Street
that
are
just
downtown.
They
have
these
amenities
places.
They
have
places
that
they
can
gather,
I
mean
I,
think
if
we
honeycombed
it
I,
don't
even
think
it
would
be
appealing
to
a
group
of
three
girls
if
I
show
them
the
the
place
that
we're
leasing,
yeah,
yes,
but
I
mean
we're
still
able
to
walk
to
the
street.
P
O
I'll
just
add
that
we're
working
within
the
constraints
of
the
building
there
the
first
floor,
doesn't
provide
this
much
square
footage
to
to
accommodate
these
types
of
amenities
and,
based
on
my
conversations
with
the
owners,
they've
been
trying
to
find
the
right
balance
between
something
that
is
productive
in
the
way
of
a
study,
area
and
workout
area,
and
also
a
rec
room.
Because
it's
important
for
the.
D
O
D
A
V
F
P
O
O
P
V
H
H
B
H
A
A
One
new
thing
has
come
up:
Tito
just
told
me,
so
if
you
want
to,
we
can
vote
tonight
and
if
it
doesn't
go
forward,
we
can
still
table
it.
Tito
says
reminded
me
that
the
only
way
that
it
would
get
thrown
out
or
be
done
tonight
is
if,
after
that
vote,
somebody
made
a
motion
for
denial
like
a
straight
up
motion
for
denial,
which
I'm
guessing
nobody
would
want
to
do.
They
would
allow
you
to
revise
and
resubmit
so
you
could
start
the
whole
process.
A
A
I
think
we'll
probably
go
the
conditional
route
just
to
start
off
with
just
or
you
want
you
want
to
vote
for,
just,
as
is
I,
think
we
have
to
make
that
decision.
First,
it
sounds
like
you're
more
likely
to
get
an
approval
with
the
conditional,
a
conditional
vote
based
on
adding
the
extra
three
study,
cubicles
or
study
areas
that
are
similar
in
size
to
the
ones
you've
shown
on
the
plan
to
limit
the
amount
of
space
wide
open
space.
That's
down
there.
O
F
I
F
D
F
It's
a
kind
of
a
rushed
catch
but
I'm
showing
you
three
rooms
here
on
this
side
of
the
wall
and
two
TV
rooms
here
facing
that
direction.
If
you
wanted
to
so
that
your
hallway
comes
down
comes
over
to
the
bathrooms,
come
down
goes
to
the
bathrooms.
I!
Don't
want
to
design
your
project
for
you,
but
that's
the
only
way
I
can
see
you
can
design
those
spaces
into
that
space.
F
A
P
O
Yeah
the
concern
that's
been
raised
is
the
current
location
for
the
TV
room
may
or
may
not
be
weight.
Bearing
supporting
walls
and
those
walls
currently
exist,
and
we
would
just
ask
if
there
is
a
conditional
approval
today
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
consult
with
our
contractors
to
ensure
that
it's
logistically
possible
to
accomplish
those
plans
and
if
we
need
to
make
additional
plans
because
of
safety
concerns
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
new
plans
at
the
next
hearing.
A
A
F
Just
so
I'm,
clear
and
so
Tito
knows
what
you're
asking
for
the
planning
department
knows
what
you're
asking
to
do:
yeah
you're
looking
for
three
rooms
that
are
comparable
in
size
to
the
three
study,
existing
study,
room
shown
on
this
site
plan
and
one
additional
TV
room.
That's
comparable
inside,
maybe
not
the
exact
Dimension
but
comparable
in
size
to
what's
proposed
in
this
plan.
A
A
A
F
M
M
M
A
H
F
A
All
right,
so
this
is
our
last
public
hearing
and
final
deliberation
for
the
applicant
Fairview
Recovery
Services
project
address
is
110
Fairview
Ave.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
for
the
construction
of
a
12
750
square
foot,
building
with
20
sleeping
units
on
an
existing
Social
Service
campus
in
the
r21
and
2
unit
dwelling
districts
welcome
back
good.
H
D
X
X
As
you
know,
I
think
everyone
was
here
the
last
time
we
were
here
I'm,
not
sure,
though
we
withdrew
our
prior
application,
which
proposed
construction
of
the
same
or
similar
new
building
in
a
parking
area
to
the
northeast
of
the
existing
building
or
in
the
area
shown
as
vacant
space.
We
had
we,
we
listened
and
heard
to
a
lot
of
public
concern
about
the
encroachment
into
that
vacant
land
with
both
the
new
building
and
a
parking
lot.
We
also
heard
the
comments
from
the
board,
which
shared
a
similar
concern.
X
X
So
right
now
for
the
Monday
through
Friday
time
period,
there
are
34
staff
people
on
the
site,
we're
proposing
an
addition
of
20
residents
or
clients,
and
that
would
bring
11
additional
staff
people
to
the
site
at
the
maximum
time
frame.
Where
people
are
there
that
changes
a
little
bit,
the
Staffing
is
a
little
bit
staggered
weekends
we'd
be
adding
three
additional
staff
people
from
the
current
numbers.
X
The
facility
is
currently
licensed
for
48
clients.
That
number
would
increase
to
68
clients
so
again,
20
potential
new
clients.
You
can
see
in
looking
at
the
existing
conditions
that
the
facility
is
rarely
actually
full.
So
at
the
point
where
this
document
was
prepared,
there
were
a
license
for
48,
but
actually
31
on
site,
so
we
expect
to
that.
Trend
would
still
continue
in
terms
of
density.
So,
if
you
look
at
the
density
requirements
in
the
R3
District,
we
do
not
require
any
variance
relief.
X
X
And
in
addition,
staff
does
service
the
community
as
well
so
they're,
not
always
at
this
location
all
day.
It's
not
a
it's,
not
a
nine
to
five
job
from
their
kind
of
circulating
through
the
community.
We
also
did
a
parking
analysis
for
you.
We
propose
56
parking
spaces.
There
are
currently
29
one
of
the
comments
that
we
heard
from
from
the
community
was
concerned
about
on-street
parking
around
the
neighborhood.
X
X
C
X
Again,
just
to
remind
you
that
there
is
a
building
on
site
that
would
be
demolished,
the
Merrick
Street
house,
so
we're
taking
down
a
building
and
putting
up
a
building
okay.
So
we
did
that
we
really.
We
really
made
an
effort
to
try
to
address
parking.
We
also
did
a
traffic
analysis
like
maybe
it
would
be
better
call
the
traffic
summary
we
did.
Some
traffic
counts.
X
The
the
in
and
out
would
be
focused
in
the
same
exact
location
that
in
this
Focus
now
and
again,
the
additional
11
staff
are
arrive
and
depart
at
all
different
times
during
the
day.
So
it's
not
they're
not
all
coming
at
one.
The
existing
and
the
proposed
traffic
volumes
are
well
below
the
capacity
of
the
erode
and
and
will
honestly
be
negligible.
X
There's
also
some
just
internal
reductions
of
traffic
in
and
out
right
now,
meals
are
transported
off-site
to
another
location,
but
that
will
all
be
done
on
site
on
the
campus.
So
you
won't
have
deliveries
coming
in
and
out
of
the
facility
that,
and
that
happens
six
or
six
trips,
A
Day,
In
and
Out
seven
days
a
week
that
would
be
reduced.
X
You
know
for
a
typical
household
and
apartment
living
you'd
be
looking
at
over
a
thousand
trips
for
debt
per
day
for
the
apartment
development
versus
you
know
about
240
State
trips
a
day,
so
we're
less
than
a
quarter
of
of
what
would
be
allowed
in
the
R3
zoning
aesthetically
I
think
this
was
probably
one
of
the
biggest
concern
that
the
building
is.
Can
you
show
me
a
nice
picture
of
the
building?
Might.
X
Nice
pictures
that
they
happen,
it's
been
residentially
designed
to
be
attractive
and
fit
into
the
neighborhood
there's
landscaping
and
we
do
have
a
new,
updated
plan.
Could
you
just
pass
that
out
to
the
board,
for
the
updated
plan
addresses
some
concerns?
We've
heard
at
a
prior
meeting,
there's
landscaping
and
dark
sky
compliant
lighting,
not
only
for
the
new
location,
but
as
a
part
of
this
proposal,
the
applicant
will
remove
all
existing
site
lighting
and
put
new
dark
sky
compliant
Lighting
on
the
site
to
improve
any
lighting
concern
again.
X
We've
really
made
an
effort
to
address
the
concerns
expressed
by
both
you
and
the
community,
and
we
believe
that
this
revised
plan
respects
the
neighborhood
respects
the
concerns
that
you've
made
and
also
respects
the
community
service
nature
of
this
property,
its
history
and
the
need
in
the
community.
For
these
folks
that
are
seeking
assistance
and
just
to
be
clear.
This
is
not
a
crisis
location.
X
This
is
a
referral
based
location.
So,
if
someone's
in
a
crisis
they're
having
an
issue,
this
is
not
where
they
come.
They
go
to
a
hospital,
they
go
to
a
hospital,
they
are
treated
for
that
crisis
and
then,
as
part
of
a
rehabilitation
or
rehab
effort.
They
come
to
this
location.
So
this
is
a
voluntary
thing.
These
are
people
who
are
seeking
treatment.
I
I
always
stay
in
situations
like
that.
Like
this,
you
know
the
people
seeking
treatment
aren't
the
ones
we
need
to
worry
about.
X
D
K
H
H
H
X
A
All
right
all
right:
well,
let's
do
the
public
hearing
and
see
if
there's
anybody
who'd
like
to
speak
about
the
project
all
right.
So
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
Fairview
Recovery
Services.
The
project
address
is
110
Fairview
Ave.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
for
the
construction
of
a
12
750
square
foot,
building
with
20
sleeping
units
on
an
existing
Social
Services
campus
in
the
r21
and
2
unit
dwelling
District.
If
there's
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
about
the
projects
yep,
please
come
to
the
microphone.
Y
Y
Y
First
of
all,
this
project
has
already
been
rejected
by
the
planning
department
and
the
the
the
changes
that
they
have
made
back
in
July.
We
had
an
extensive
hearing
about
this
matter.
It's
a
it's
a
20
bed
crisis
center
facility
and
the
new
plans.
They
have
doesn't
really
change
the
core
problem
with
this
construction.
Y
It's
a
20
bed,
crisis
center
facility,
it's
a
seriously
addicted
patients
and
they're
all
going
to
be
in
the
same
building,
it's
the
same
block
and
it's
the
same
neighborhood
and
they
only
the
building
has
only
been
moved
a
few
feet.
Really
it's
just
from
one
side
to
the
other
side
of
the
lot.
It's
the
same
problem,
construction
and
every
resident
in
the
neighborhood
opposes
it.
It's
it's
not
acceptable
on
any
level.
In
fact,
as
I
said
back
in
July,
I
can't
believe
anyone's
taking
it
seriously.
This
is
an
outrageous
proposal
for
this
neighborhood.
Y
They
want
to
consolidate
their
operations.
Well,
that's
well
and
good.
What
our
position
is
that
this
consolidation
should
occur
in
another
location.
It's.
This
is
a
completely
inappropriate
construction
for
this
neighborhood.
Under
any
circumstances
and
I've
spoken
to
almost
everyone
in
the
neighborhood.
It's
it's
not
acceptable
on
any
level.
It's
just
outrageous!
It's
huge!
It's
an
oversized
project.
Y
Y
The
claims
and
assertions
made
by
Fairview
Recovery
Services
in
this
proposal
cannot
be
taken
at
face
value,
and
we
say
that
because
we
have
experience
with
the
previous
construction
on
a
Clapham
Street,
they
have
an
eight
bed
women's
residence
facility
that
was
built
a
couple
of
years
ago.
Now
they
originally
sold
this
project
as
a
respite
for
mothers
and
their
children.
That's
how
they
got
it
passed.
They
made.
They
said.
Oh,
this
is
going
to
be
for
mothers
and
their
children
and
a
lot
of
neighbors
said
well,
that's
a
good
thing.
Y
We're
not
going
to
oppose
it.
Well
as
soon
as
that
building
went
up
within
six
months.
That
program
was
gone.
It
just
abruptly
ended
without
explanation.
It's
gone
also
as
part
of
that
construction
on
Clapham
Street.
They
assured
us
there
would
be
absolutely
zero
impact
to
traffic
and
parking
people
said
there
would
be
no
change
in
traffic
patterns.
I
can
tell
you
within
one
week
of
the
opening
of
that
building
traffic
doubled
and
during
the
warmer
months
it
triples.
Y
They
also
had
on-street
parking
all
over
the
place
which
would
still
be
going
on,
except
that
there
was
a
prior
emergency
there.
The
fire
trucks
couldn't
get
access
to
the
building,
because
there
were
so
many
cars
parking
on
the
street,
so
they
they
got
signs
put
up
within
a
week.
No
parking
signs
on
Clapham
Street.
Thank
goodness.
Y
Y
Y
Oh
also,
people
below
the
neighborhood
on
Fairview
are
going
to
be
impacted
by
the
increase
in
traffic
coming
up,
Fairview
traffic
will
definitely
increase,
there's
no
doubt
about
it,
and
also
as
Mr
Mazda
is
going
to
mention
the
the
clients
that
are
going
to
be
serviced
by
this
proposed
construction.
There's
absolutely
nothing
for
them
to
do
in
our
neighborhood.
Okay,
unlike
a
setting
in
the
center
city,
there
is
no
Recreation.
There
are
no
parks,
there
are
no
stores,
there
are
no
supermarkets,
it's
posted
private
wooded
areas
with
no
sidewalks
and
well.
Y
The
only
thing
people
can
do
now,
which
is
what
they're
doing
now
is
wander
around
the
neighborhood,
smoking
and
vaping
and
glaring
at
the
resident
homeowners
that
they
come
across
and
it's
very
intimidating
and
we
don't
feel
safe,
and
my
final
comment
is
the
city
of
Binghamton
must
protect
this
presidential
Community.
The
city
has
to
support
and
bolster
its
base
of
tax,
paying
homeowners.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
There's
an
issue
here
all
right
that
when
they,
when
they
put
their
plan
together
here,
they're
very
selective
in
their
wording.
You
know
they
gave
you
about
50
pages
of
paper
here,
some
of
it's
just
totally
inaccurate
right,
I
teach
statistics
at
SUNY,
Broome,
I,
taught
statistics
as
SUNY
Brown
I
know,
I'm
a
tutor
of
Statistics
I'm
well
recognized
over
there.
You
can
go
over.
They
know
my
name
for
statistics
right.
Z
Z
V
Z
Z
They
talk
about
the
lighting.
They
never
said
they
were
going
to
put
any
Lighting
in
there
when
they
put
that
the
women's
facility
and
I'll
go.
Take
a
look
at
the
lighting
that
that
bombs,
the
land
that
I
own
my
wife
and
I
they
paid
for
that
land.
We
saved
money
to
buy
the
land
right,
they
compromise
the
land
and
compromise
thing
and
now
and
they
don't
even
consider
that
they
don't
even
consider
it
as
residential.
Z
Z
Z
Z
They
talked
about
lighting.
You
see
the
lighting.
That's
up
there.
Now
it
floods,
it's
floodlights,
nothing
in
their
original
post
about
floodlights.
It
was
supposed
to
be
totally
transparent
to
people
who
live
there.
You
know
nothing
was
gonna,
you
wouldn't
even
know
it's
there.
I
got
news
for
you.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
You
know,
and
all
the
other
puzzles
that
they
you
know
a
zoning
audience
is
all
right.
They
don't
even
the
zoning
ordinance.
They
don't
even
pay
attention
to.
They
put
this
number
200
feet.
They
think
everything
is
within
200
feet
of
their
property.
I
got
news
for
you
right.
There's,
there's
62
housing
complexes
up
there,
that
they
don't
they'd,
use
the
numbers
in
there,
but
they
never
talk
about,
and
you
know,
what's
even
more
embarrassing
me
when
I
was
reading,
that
is
they.
They
use
words
that
they
feel
their
entitlement
they
entitled
to
this.
Z
Z
Z
What
they
need
to
do
here,
in
my
opinion,
is
to
relocate
the
best
thing
they
can
do
for
the
people.
They're
trying
to
service
is
to
relocate
into
a
facility
which
Clinton
has
not
been
a
growth
facility.
Lately
they
I
don't
know
if
the
sheltered
workshop
is
available,
but
look
at
what
the
VA
did.
Look,
what
the
VA
did
across
the
street.
They
they
got
their
hands
on
that
facility.
They
modernized
it.
Z
They
put
a
nice
parking
lot
in
there
and
look
at
what
they've
done
for
the
city,
They
promoted
the
city
and
the
VA
men
and
women
who
work
in
there
and
get
the
benefits
of
there.
It's
working.
It's
done
something
for
Binghamton
they.
What
they
need
to
do,
in
my
opinion,
is
close
this
down,
as
as
maybe
it
may
close
it
down.
Relocate
in
the
sheltered
workshop,
it's
a
it's
a
big
building,
all
right.
It's
a
big
building,
it's
close
to
libraries,
it's
close
to
churches.
Z
B
V
A
AA
AA
AA
So
I'm
gonna
try
to
be
brief,
but
I'm
going
to
read
the
first
two
letters
that
I
did
right.
So
you
have
an
idea,
although
you've
probably
heard
them
and
a
lot
of
the
would
touch
on
the
same
facts.
But
this
is
just
coming
from
me
if
a
mother
and
a
grandmother
with
nine
grandchildren
that
do
play
in
my
big
yard
that
I
do
have
up
there.
AA
AA
AA
If
any
of
you've
ever
been
up
that
way,
the
rural
roads
they
really
are
in
the
wintertime,
you
can
barely
get
two
cars
to
go
on.
The
road
increase,
car
and
pedestrian
traffic
will
increase
potential
for
accident
and
liability
in
this
area.
There
are
no
sidewalks,
no
sidewalks
limited
disability
and
treacherous
winter.
Roads
are
a
big
concern
because,
as
you
go
down
whether
it's
Merit
or
Clapham,
if
you
go
down
to
peer
review
app,
you
have
immediately
Pope's
Ravine,
which
comes
around
interns
and
there's
so
many
times
that
those
cars
come
through
that
they're
going.
AA
You
know,
people
go
fast
or
the
parked
cards
are
there
and
it
clap
them
in
there
come
down
and
dip.
So
in
the
winter
time,
I've
done
it
and
I
only
drive
five
miles
an
hour
down
there
until
where
you
slip
right
across
the
road.
So
it
is
very,
it
is
not
it's
not
a
good
place
in
the
wintertime
to
drive
and
with
increased
carbs
and
traffic
I've.
We
always
are
concerned
about
that.
AA
Basically,
and-
and
you
just
you
know-
cars
turning
left,
turning
right
and
I
know
they
say
it's
gonna
decrease
now
and
clap
them,
but
you
can't
stop
people
from
going
around
the
block
and
driving
it.
Just
it's
what
it's
going
to
be,
there's
going
to
be
more
cars
there
and
I
have
noticed
in
the
past
couple
of
years.
There's
more
foot
traffic
and
the
clients
they
do.
AA
They
walk
around,
especially
in
the
warmer
weather,
around
the
blocks,
smoking
and
vaping,
and-
and
it's
just
I'm
out
in
my
yard-
a
lot
and
when
you
see
these
large
groups
of
people
it
just
really
gives
you
gives
you
concern
and
they're
transient
people
they're,
not
permanent
residents.
It's
a
residential
area
and
these
people
do
come
and
go
and
I'm
all
for
Recovery
I
really
have
never
had
an
issue
until
the
last
building
they
put
up
for
the
women
with
their
children.
AA
AA
AA
But
what
are
they
going
to
do
at
the
next
meeting
when
they
decide
they
want
another
building,
put
up
and
or
a
parking
lot
they're
going
to
need
they
just
keep
expanding
and
the
lack
of
privacy
is.
What
gives
me
such
an
easy
feeling
it
might
at
my
home
and
personal
safety
is,
is
a
concern
for
me
and
actually
the
elderly
woman.
She
wrote
a
little
email
to
Tito
and
Tito.
You've
been
wonderful,
I
just
have
to
say
a
thank
you
for
always
listening
to
me.
I
really
appreciate
it.
AA
It's
very
kind
and
and
I
just
don't
understand,
because
it's
a
commercial
basic,
it's
not
a
business,
but
it's
commercially.
What
they're
building
there
and
that
is
never
really
I
know
they
talk
about
the
the
R3
putting
up
apartment
complexes
it
can
be
thrown
for
that.
But
this
is
a
business
and
you
have
people
coming.
You
have
to
you
know,
cover
shifts.
I
know
they
say
that
there's
only
11,
more
people
that
are
going
to
be
there
but
I,
don't
know
they
say
I
just
don't
know
it
really.
AA
AA
It's
all
the
way
down:
Fairview
Ave,
which
is
probably
a
quarter
of
a
mile,
maybe
to
get
to
Robinson
Street
to
get
the
bus
stop.
So
it's
not
even
like
there
is
good
access
to
public
transportation
there.
So
you
you
know:
they've
got
to
walk
down
there
to
get
a
bus,
and
even
the
disabled.
People
above
me
has
has
always
been
a
concern
for
me
because
you
we
have
a
couple
of
people
up
there
that
don't
have
cars.
AA
So
this
is
it's
built,
they've
moved
in
it's
after
they
realize
they
can't
get
buses
up
there
and
they
go
down
Clapham
Street.
Sometimes
they
cross
over
East
and
go
Merrick,
which
they're,
steep
hills
and
the
one
caregiver
has
to
walk
now,
and
this
isn't
in
the
studies
you
don't
know
about
them,
but
they
have
to
walk
the
wheelchair
backwards.
AA
You
walk
backwards
with
the
client
in
the
chair
to
get
down
the
hill,
so
when
he
pushes
them
down,
he
doesn't
tip
out
and
there's
two
people
with
electric
wheelchairs
that
I
just
go
out
of
my
mind
when
I
see
him
driving
down
the
hill,
it
really
scares
me,
but
that's
it
wasn't
made
to
to
have
that
kind
of
traffic
in
it
and-
and
those
are
the
safety
concerns
too.
If
you've
got
people
diving
up
and
down
that
road.
AA
I,
just
don't
see
how
it
benefits
our
our
neighborhood
and
I.
Do
I
do
get
a
little
concerned
of
who
is
rehabbing
up
there
we
don't
know.
Are
there
criminal
histories?
Are
there
other
things
that
we
don't
know
about
and
if
they're
not
in
capacity?
Why
do
they
need
to
build
more
I?
Don't
understand
that
if
they're
not
always
at
capacity?
What
is
the
need
for
that
at
that
point?
AA
AA
He
started
in
that
that
first
building
on
Fairview
Ave
with
kids
home
and
it
became
his
office
and
then
after
we
moved
in
there
was
another
the
great
building
on
America.
When
I
think
they're
going
to
tear
down.
He
did
have
an
operation
going
out
of
there.
He
also
worked
out
at
State
Hospital
and
then
from
there
we
moved
in
and
then
they
just
they
kept
building
they
kept.
Building
and
again
I
was
fine.
AA
D
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Kathy
Grove
I
live
at
15
Merrick
right
up
the
street
I
truly
appreciate
what
you've
done
to
rearrange
your.
You
know
your
plan,
because
they've
listened
to
what
we
had
said
before
about
my
my
backyard,
with
the
against
the
open
lock
that
they
were
going
to
put
the
driveway
in
my
concern
is
many
of
the
things
they
have
already
been
said,
but
the
expansion.
U
You
know
the
ladies
house,
you
know
it's
a
wonderful
place,
but
it
keeps
going
and
it
keeps
going
and
it
keeps
going
and
you
know
we
do
live
there,
I'm
a
newbie
in
the
neighborhood
and
I've
been
there
19
years.
So
it's
a
very
old
residential
neighborhood
with
lovely
quiet
people,
but
why
do
we
have
to
build
so
much
again?
I
understand
it,
but
I
truly
appreciate
that
they
listen
to
us
about
moving
their
buildings,
but
again,
if
they're,
not
at
capacity.
U
Why
do
we
have
to
do
this
and
having
ambulance
come
to
my
house
in
the
last
10
years
several
times?
My
concern
is
if
they
need
an
ambulance
and
there
are
ambulances
up
there
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
During
the
day,
there
are
ambulances
up
there.
If
you
are
where
they
are
now
on
Court
Street
around
the
corner
room,
some
room
ambulance,
they're,
a
quarter
half
a
mile
from
Superior
and
the
fire
department's
going
to
be
right
next
to
order
them,
you
know
with
the
fire
equipment
and
medic.
U
U
But
another
concern
that
just
dawned
on
me
is
when
you
come
down
marriage
street
right
where
their
driveway
is
where
the
parking
lot
there
are
so
many
underground
Springs
it's
torturous
in
the
winter,
because
the
it
like
it
in
Fairview
is
right
there
and
the
underground
Springs
are
terrible
to
try
to
get
through
and
if
you're
going
up,
Clapham
it's
just
as
bad,
but
the
underground
streams
right
underneath
Merrick
Street
at
their
parking
lot
are
treacherous
again.
I
really
appreciate
what
you
guys
have
done
to
look
at
and
to
listen
to
the
neighborhood.
U
M
X
Just
to
correct
a
a
few
mistakens
I
believe
for
the
record.
The
project
was
not
deny
by
you.
We
withdrew
the
application.
This
is
not
a
crisis
center,
as
I've
indicated
to
you.
I
did
forget
to
tell
you
an
important
thing
and
I'm
glad
one
of
the
neighbors
brought
it
up.
We
have
built
into
this
project
smoking
areas
on
site,
so
kind
of
you
can
just
show
them
where
they
are.
X
I
I
thought
it
was
interesting
to
hear
some
of
the
history
of
the
neighborhood,
which
I
didn't
actually
know
before
talking
about
eight
houses.
Now
there
are
ten
houses,
20
additional
houses
and
a
senior
living
facility
that
to
me
and
that
all
occurred
after
the
facility
is
already
in
location
in
its
location
that
that
to
me
was
actually
a
really
good
sign
that
additional
construction
has
happened
in
the
neighborhood
after
this
facility
has
already
been
in
location.
X
The
parking
information
was
prepared
by
the
dormitory,
the
dormitory
Authority
architect,
and
the
location
was
approved
by
the
office
of
Addiction
Services
at
the
state
agency.
So
there
has
been
State
oversight
over
the
project
and
also
just
to
make
clear
and
I've
checked
with
Patrick
twice
on
this
to
our
knowledge
to
Patrick's
knowledge,
there
have
been
no
reports
of
violence.
The
police
have
not
been
called
ever
with
respect
to
this
facility.
X
Also
just
as
a
clarification,
the
clients
do
not
work
at
this
location.
They
do
not
work
off
site
and
they
are
always
accompanied
on
site
or
in
the
area
they
do.
They
are
allowed
to
go
out
and
go
for
a
walk
and
they
are
allowed
to
get
some
fresh
air,
but
they're
always
accompanied
by
staff
members.
They
are
not
ever
by
themselves
and
I.
I
U
X
Fact
we
worked
really
hard
to
create
a
plan
where
there
would
be
no
access
beyond
the
accent.
That's
currently
there.
These
aren't
people
that
get
visitors.
Often
these
are
you
know
people
in
a
treatment
program.
It's
a
vigorous
program.
It's
a
it's,
a
very
well
controlled
program
and
they're
there,
because
they
want
help
and
we're.
You
know.
We
believe
that
Everyone's
entitled
to
that
they're
also
citizens
and
of
Broome
County
and
getting
the
treatment
that
they
need
is
really
only
a
benefit
to
all
of
us.
B
N
The
program
did
exist.
It
was
a
combination
of
single
women
and
women
with
their
children.
The
women
with
their
children
were
only
two
beds,
so
it
was
two
moms
could
have
their
kids
with
them.
We
unfortunately
had
a
death
out
in
support
of
living,
which
is
another
program
of
our
off-site,
and
we
were
advised
to
liability
wise
to
not
have
that
program
any
longer.
X
X
The
the
nice
thing
about
this
location
is
the
infrastructure,
for
the
treatment
is
available
already
there,
and
so
it
provides
a
streamline
of
services
that
wouldn't
have
to
be
separated
into
different
areas
as
it
is
now
and
and
I.
You
know
with
all
respect.
This
is
a
site
plan,
review
and
and
alternate
locations.
It
I
mean,
of
course,
you
could
probably
find
alternate
location.
It's
not
what
this
applicant
has
chosen
to
do.
X
I,
I,
don't
I,
don't
mean
to
say
that
it's
not
something
to
consider,
but
that
it's
kind
of
like
one
of
those,
it's
a
good
thing
to
do,
but
just
not
on
my
yard.
You
know
my
backyard
I
think
in
my
backyard.
We
have,
for
example,
a
a
treatment
facility.
A
group
home
I
mean
you
would
never
in
a
million
years,
know
that
that
people
are
there
that
they're,
you
know,
and
they're
supervised
and
they're
out
walking
around
and
I
mean
I,
don't
feel
particularly
unfaith.
X
K
C
N
They've
done
that
new
beds,
their
existing
beds,
so
we're
not
adding
to
our
population
we're
just
replacing
we're
moving
physical
location
to
like
Sarah,
said
for
Continuum
of
Care
fiscal
reasons.
We
have
two
it's
off-site,
so
we're
always
going
off-site
taking
food,
and
that
would
cut
down
on
all
of
that.
We
wouldn't
have
to
send
other
staff
down
to
this
other
location.
We
would
be
all
in
one
location
for
the
for
the
two
levels
of
care
that
we
provide
there
right.
N
F
U
And
may
I
ask
a
question:
you
know:
I
keep
getting
back
to
the
20
20
beds.
It
seems
like
such
a
a
giant
process
of
you
know.
Obviously,
some
disruption
in
the
neighborhood
Etc
20
beds.
So
what
why
the
20
beds?
How
do
we
get
there,
especially
I,
get
that
you're,
saying
you're
doing
different
services,
but
it
would
seem
like
we're
going
to
do
an
expansion
to
an
expansion,
not
for
you
guys,
but
but
my
point
being
that
20
bed
seems
like
like
an
odd
thing.
The.
U
N
A
D
F
A
A
Will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulation?
Nowhere
small
impact
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
a
change
in
the
use
or
intensity
of
use
of
land
as
a
small
impact?
Will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
Community?
Yes,
but
in
my
opinion,
it's
a
small
impact
based
on
the
revised
site
plan
that
located
the
building
in
the
corner
of
Fairview,
Ave
and
Merrick
street
instead
of
the
in
the
Green
Space,
backed
by
Clapham
Street.
A
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
to
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkways
so
a
small
impact?
Well,
the
proposed
action
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities.
No
will
the
proposed
Action
Impact
existing
public
or
private
Water,
Supplies
or
public
or
private
wastewater
treatment
utilities.
A
No,
with
the
proposed
action,
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources
know
our
small
impact.
Well,
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
changed.
Natural
resources
like
Wetlands
water
bodies,
groundwater,
air
quality
or
fluorofauna,
no
or
small
impact
with
a
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems,
no
or
small
impact,
and
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health?
No
So,
based
on
those
I'll,
make
a
negative
emotion
for
a
negative
declaration
for
Seeker.
A
Five
in
favor
and
all
opposed
all
right
and
one
opposed
all
right.
That's
a
five
to
one
you're
welcome
before
you
guys
leave
just
so
everybody
knows
you
kind
of
already
have
addressed
it
and
I
think
I
addressed
it
in
the
last
time
we
went
through
this,
but
for
me
personally,
if
you
do
come
back
again
for
this
property,
it's
a
definite!
No
for
me,
you,
you
reached
the
saturation
point
on
this
property.
For
me,
I
can't
speak
for
anybody
else,
but.
M
H
A
G
So
the
city
is
looking
to
rezone
the
Crowley
plant
at
135,
Conklin
Ave.
That's
the
main
objective
here
right
now:
zones
Industrial
light
and
medium
industrial,
which
was
does
not
allow
residential
use
so
rezoning
it
to
C4
neighborhood
commercial,
which
is
what
the
other
side
of
Compton
Ave
is,
would
allow
commercial
on
the
ground
floor
or
light
industrial
on
the
ground
floor
and
apartments
elsewhere
in
the
building.
So
the
city
has
some
interest
in
redeveloping
this
for
housing
and
we're
trying
to
make
that
allowed
by
rezoning.
G
It
115
and
125
Conklin
are
not
important
for
that,
but
it
would
make
no
sense
to
leave
those
as
industrial
right
now.
It's
a
restaurant
and
a
parking
lot
for
that
restaurant
and
if
we
reach
on
135
Conklin
Ave,
then
you
would
have
that
restaurant
on
a
little
industrial
Island.
That
is
not
appropriate
in
the
first
place.
So
we're
including
that
as
part
of
this,
but
that's
the
gist
of
it.
We
want
to
rezone
the
Crowley
plant
to
allow
it
to
be
redeveloped.
F
A
G
Does
but
if
you
could
look
further
Northeast,
there
is
more
C4,
there's
more
commercial
between
this
and
the
rest
of
the
industrial
land.
It's
not
really
connected.
It's
just.
They
made
the
river
part
of
that
zoning.
District
okay,
but
it's
physically
separated
from
the
rest
of
the
industrial
uses
like
on
Jackson
and
in.
F
That
area,
that's
what
I'm
just
going
to
say,
I!
Think
at
one
point,
if
you
were
to
do
research
and
go
back
for
old
Maps
the
area
of
Jackson
back
by
like
where
the
fire
training
center
is,
that
area
was
all
sort
of
industrial
and
it
wrapped
up
around
where
the
dog
shelter
now
is
where
the
rock
B
is
over
to
the
crowleys,
and
that
was
all
one
kind
of
stretch.
F
V
I
M
A
All
right
can
I
wrap
it
up
into
one
motion,
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
of
the
zoning
change
and
a
negative
declaration
under
Seeker
based
on
the
following
all
right.
Well,
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use,
planner
zoning
regulations
no
or
small
impact.
Will
the
proposed
action
result
in
change
in
the
use
of
intensive
use
of
land
or
small
impact?
Will
the
proposed
actually
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
the
existing
Community?
Nowhere
small
impact?
A
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area
no
or
small
impact?
Will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkways?
No,
our
small
impact.
Will
the
proposed
reaction
cause
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
A
No
will
the
proposed
Action
Impact
existing
public
or
private
Water,
Supplies,
public
or
private
wastewater
treatment
utilities
no
well
the
proposed
to
actually
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources.
No
or
small
impact
with
a
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
the
Natural
Resources.
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems?
No
well.
The
proposed
action
have
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health.