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A
All
right,
hello,
everyone
welcome
to
the
January
meeting
of
the
city
of
Binghamton
Planning
Commission.
My
name
is
Nick
Corker
and
I'm.
Currently,
the
chairman
of
this
commission,
which
is
comprised
of
local
community
members,
tasked
with
reviewing
site
plans
and
special
use
permits
for
consistency
with
the
standards
and
criteria
set
forth
in
the
city
of
Binghamton
code,
based
on
our
total
number
of
Planning
Commission
members.
Four
members
must
be
present
to
constitute
a
quorum
tonight.
A
It
looks
like
we
have
five
members,
which
means
we
do
have
a
quorum
and
can
proceed,
but
let's
do
roll
call
first,
just
to
make
sure
Mario
defolvio
is
not
here:
Joe
D'angelo,
Chris
judges.
A
Thank
you.
Kelly
Weiss
Manny
priest
is
not
going
to
be
here
tonight
and
we
have
a
new
member
tonight.
Steve
C
Prasad,
all
right.
Welcome!
Steve.
A
A
Next
item
on
the
agenda
are
secret.
Determinations
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
the
Planning
Commission
will
be
reviewing
documentation
provided
by
applicants.
For
the
first
time,
applicants
will
be
called
to
the
microphone
where
they
will
be
asked
to
make
a
presentation
describing
their
plans
to
the
commission.
Commission
members
May
then
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
to
clarify
any
items
that
are
unclear
and,
after
all,
questions
have
been
answered.
The
commission
will
deliberate
and
then
either
set
a
public
hearing
date
for
the
project
or
request
additional
information.
A
B
D
So
in
July
of
2021
we
opened
up
a
CBD
retail
store
with
our
cannabinoid
Hep
retail
license
as
branded
by
the
state
and
in
September
of
2022.
D
We
submitted
our
application
and
we're
awarded
later
in
November,
one
of
the
first
retail
card
retail
licenses
for
the
sale
of
cannabis
in
the
state
We've
partnered
with
the
Urban
League.
D
This
is
Jen
lesko
she's,
director
of
the
Broome
County
Urban
League
as
one
of
the
non-profit
qualifying
entities,
so
that
we
can
do
some
philanthropic
work
with
some
of
the
revenues
that
we
generate
and
I'm
here
tonight,
because
this
will
be
the
first
time
the
Cannabis
legally
is
sold
in
the
city
of
Binghamton
and
wanted
to
go
through
this
process
and
thought
every
eye
and
cross
every
T
in
terms
of
the
legalities
and
talk
to
you
folks,
all.
B
A
From
a
review
process
this
recently,
we
revised
or
approved
the
revisions
to
the
code.
This
all
meets
all
those
requirements
or
anything
that
was
in
that
revision.
C
E
And
so
they
meet
all
other
requirements
in
the
zoning
code
that
apply
all.
D
How
much
time
you
got
that's
a
joke,
it
was
pretty
pretty
arduous.
D
The
biggest
thing
I
think
that
was
important
is
the
state
wants
to
make
sure
that
they're,
clear
and
that
there
are
all
true
parties
of
Interest
are
identified.
I.
D
So,
in
terms
of
directly
asked
your
question
there
was,
there
was
a
lot
of
stuff
we
had
to
put
together
to
prove
that
we
were
who
we
were
and
I
think
it
was
pretty
competitive.
I
think
they
had
like
900
applications,
and
it
was
it
was
scored
like
a
like.
A
grant
almost
would
be
scored.
D
A
Sure
yeah
are
there
other
people
in
the
area
that
are
going
to
be
doing
this
as
well
or
yes,.
D
There's
another
there's
what
they
call
you
guys
a
dazny
applicant,
there's
another
dazzling
applicant
that
did
qualify.
His
name
was
Will.
Durham
I
actually
do
know
him
he
qualified.
So
there
were
two
sides
to
it
right.
There
were
folks
that
were
Justice
involved,
meaning
they
maybe
had
like
a
a
prior.
You
know
Justice
impact,
and
then
there
were
folks
that
had
done
social
justice
work
with
no
justice
impact,
and
that
would
be
myself
I've
gotten
a
lot
of
tickets.
You
know
parking
tickets,
but
never
any.
Never.
D
Anything
of
that
would
raise
the
level
just
Justice
impact.
However,
we
do
tons
and
tons
of
programming
that
helps
most
help
needed
populations
and
and
folks
that
have
suffered.
You
know,
Justice
impact.
A
F
E
So
we
have
a
few
options
to
address
that
they
can
be
reported
to
New
York
State,
which
puts
them
on
a
list
where
basically
they're
they're
blacklisted,
in
a
way
from
getting
a
license
in
the
future.
E
We
can
address
it
through
an
illegal
land
use
and
and
cite
them
and
take
them
to
court
and
go
through
that
process,
and
it
could
even
be
sort
of
a
a
criminal
investigation
like
what
happened
in
Johnson
City,
where
they
actually
seized
the
the
product
from
the
illegal
retailer.
So
we
have
different
options
right
now,
we're
in
the
sighting
and
taken
to
court
process
and
I.
Believe
we
sent
letters
to
the
state
as
well.
So
we
did
those
two
things.
E
I
can't
speak
for
what
you
know
what
the
police
department
is
doing,
but
we're
doing
what
what
we
can
in
our
department
to
address
it
and
we've
gotten
fairly
decent
feedback
from
at
least
two
of
the
known
places
that
that
they'll
be
shutting
down
soon.
So
we're
working
on.
D
It
can
I
can
I
add
to
that
yeah
I
think
when
this
whole
thing
started,
it
was
kind
of
a
hot
ball
of
wax,
and
the
state
didn't
really
have
a
statute
to
add
teeth
to
it.
But
I
think.
As
you
know,
it's
kind
of
one
of
these
things
where
they
kind
of
put
together
the
policy
and
the
legislation
so
quickly
that
now
I
think
once
you
get
through
these
first
set
of
licenses.
First,
the
cultivators
came
out
and
then
we'll
do
the
retail
and
pretty
soon
they'll
be
processors.
D
Then,
before
you
know
it
I
mean
it's
definitely
within
their
interest
to
stop
those
different
revenue,
streams
that
are
not
being
taxed
and
that's
the
whole
point.
So
I
I
would
have
the
full
faith
and
confidence
that,
in
terms
of
in
addition
to
what
could
be
done
at
a
local
level
in
the
municipality
I'm
sure
the
state
would
be
really
putting
all
their
their
strength
and
emphasis
to
make
those
things
go
away.
Otherwise,
the
plan
can't
work.
E
G
A
D
I,
don't
know
the
building
there
are
you
kidding
me,
you
know
how
many
times
I
was
going
through
this
stuff,
so
I
I
think
you
guys
should
have
the
drawings
and
all
those
things
there.
B
D
So
shipping
is
illegal,
you
can't
shell,
but
you
what
we
can
deliver.
So
in
fact,
I
had
a
long
call
today
with
our
e-commerce.
What
will
happen
is
similar
to
instacart
we'll
take
in
delivery
orders
where
they
have
to
be
prepaid
through
ACH
or
pen
debit.
Only
and
then
they'll
get
Windows
where
they
can
schedule
the
delivery
and
we'll
see
it
a
day
early.
So
we
can
lay
out
our
delivery.
Trace
remember
thrust.
Really.
This
area
is
really
tough
to
service.
D
If
you
get
a
delivery
in
North
for
heaven's
sakes,
and
three
and
JC
I
mean
you're,
gonna
burn
the
broom
right.
Yes,
we're
not
the
north,
it's
going
to
be
tough,
so
we
have
to
really
look
at
that
stuff
and
kind
of
Order
Up
by
ZIP
code
and
regions,
but
that
area
is
where
we
would
stage
those
different
things.
Remember
per
the
state,
we're
no
longer
allowed
to
pack
any
products,
they
have
to
come
pre-sealed
and
pre-packed
from
our
cultivators.
Okay,.
B
D
Right
now
we
anticipate
six
and
remember:
we
only
will
allow
you
know
we're
seeing
12
12
people
in
the
store
at
once
yeah.
So
it's
like
we'll
cue
another
12
and
do
another
12.
Now,
just
it's
a
big
unknown.
You
know
we
may
see
10
people
a
day
right
now
and
people
are
really
happy.
D
We
may
not
see
you
know
five
times
that
per
hour,
even
still
I
think
we
can
handle
those
that
frequency,
because
we
saw
a
huge
influx
with
Luma
and
things
like
that
were
going
and
it
wasn't
a
problem
yeah
and
if
you
do,
the
math
you're,
looking
at
a
cell,
every
three
or
four
minutes
would
still
get
you
100
a
day.
Okay,.
A
All
right
and
then
I
think
my
last
question.
It
looks
like
security
is
noted,
pretty
heavily
on
a
bunch
of
different
things
in
the
documents
is
security,
a
big
concern.
Yes,.
D
Not
not
not,
for
our
era,
I
think
the
folks
that
we,
our
constituents,
are
great,
but
for
the
industry
as
well,
the
state
puts
a
huge
emphasis
on
the
security,
so
we'll
have
in
upwards
of
eight
cameras,
we'll
also
put
staff
on
you
know:
security
firms
that
have
retired
law
enforcement.
D
Folks
and
no,
it
won't
look
like
a
you
know,
a
gel
we'll
make
sure
they
you
know,
put
in
a
nice
shirt
and
slacks,
you
know,
but
they
really
are
there
to
help
us
make
sure
that
we
identify
folks
and
we'll
put
those
people
with
hosts
similar
to
you
would
see
at
a
restaurant
right.
So
there's
a
good
customer
experience
for
folks.
You
know:
okay,
but
yeah.
It's
a
pretty
big
emphasis.
I!
D
You
know
we
had
a
pretty
detailed
plan
that
we
had
to
go
through
just
to
lay
it
all
out
and
get
the
approval
from
the
state.
A
Okay,
all
right
great
anybody
else.
Any
questions
concerns
comments
all
right
all
right.
If
there's
no
other
questions
or
comments,
I'll
make
a
motion
that
the
proposal
involves
the
ReUse
of
an
existing
mixed-use
building,
which
is
a
type
2
action
under
seeker,
and
that
no
further
environmental
review
is
required
all
right.
A
A
All
right,
then,
I'll
make
a
motion
to
schedule
a
public
hearing
for
the
project
at
our
next
meeting
at
5
20.,
all
right,
second,
by
Kelly,
all
in
favor,
all
right,
five
in
favor,
zero
opposed
all
right.
So
we'll
see
you
back
at
the
next
meeting
in
February
and
we'll
open
up
for
public
hearing,
and
if
anybody
comes
to
speak
for
or
against
the
project,
we'll
hear
what
they
have
to
say
and
then
we'll
make
a
ruling
on
the
project.
H
A
All
right
that
concludes
secret
determinations,
and
so
now
we're
on
to
the
next
part
of
our
meeting,
which
is
public
hearings
and
Final
deliberations
in
this
portion
of
our
meeting,
we'll
be
holding
open
public
hearings
to
obtain
public
opinion
in
regard
to
specific
projects
that
are
up
for
review,
applicants
will
be
asked
to
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
a
brief
presentation
describing
their
project
for
most
projects.
This
is
the
second
time
we
were
reviewing
your
information,
so
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
you
could.
A
Please
give
us
a
brief
overview
of
your
project,
to
remind
us
what
you're
planning
and
then
clearly
identify
any
changes
that
have
been
made
since
the
last
time.
We
saw
you
when
the
applicant
is
done
presenting
and
any
clarifications
have
been
reviewed,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
and
allow
members
of
the
community
to
speak
about
the
applicant's
proposal
after
the
commission
has
heard
from
all
community
members
interested
in
speaking
tonight.
The
public
hearing
will
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
deliberate
to
our
applicants
when
your
project
name
is
called.
I
This
project
is
proposing
utilizing
property
on
Carol
and
Lyle
Street
we're
calling
it
the
intergenerational
campus,
because
we
are
proposing
to
combine
low-income,
affordable
housing
with
child
care
than
this
property,
so
the
YWCA
purchased
five
properties
last
year
and
they
are
all
going
to
be
utilized
in
the
plan
that
I
think
you've
all
seen.
Pictures
of
to
create
this
intergenerational
campus.
We're
really
excited
about
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
have
68
units
of
affordable
housing
and
98,
not
units
but
slots
for
Early
Childhood
from
infants
to
preschool
ages.
So
it's
it's
transformational.
I
It's
going
to
transform
the
neighborhood
and
we're
really
excited
about
it.
The
development
team
consists
of
past
Construction
Group.
Our
architect
is
Richard
bitto
from
OCB
Architects
and
Amy.
Laraveer
Associates,
along
with
the
YWCA
staff
with
me
this
evening,
is
Carl.
Who
is
the
engineer
for
the
project
from
Foss,
Construction
Group
and
he's
going
to
talk
to
you
about
more
specifics?
But
if
you
have
any
specific
questions
for
me,
I'm
here
too
answer
them
as
well.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
to
Carl.
G
Good
evening,
I'm
Carl,
guy
3624,
Wildwood,
Drive,
Endwell
and
I
am
the
President
of
the
trucking
group,
and
we've
been
working
with
the
YWCA
for
over
10
years
on
various
projects,
Holly
Street
and
whatnot,
and
this
is
a
great
opportunity,
I
think,
to
redevelop
part
of
the
area
on
Carol
and
Lyle,
redevelop
the
Urban
League
building
and
to
give
an
opportunity
to
really
bring
a
lot
of
life
to
that
area.
G
I,
don't
know
you
know
we
built
the
pharmacy
school
across
the
street,
so
we're
very
familiar
with
the
the
area
and
so
a
brief
synopsis
of
the
project.
It's
we've.
What
we've
changed
since
last
time
based
on
some
neighborhood
concerns,
is
we
we're
asking
for
height
variance
anyway,
so
to
create
some
better
side
yard
setbacks,
for
which
was
a
concern?
G
We
did
go
to
five
stores,
we're
still
far
less
than
what
the
pharmacy
schools
across
the
street
and
I
think
we're
only
asking
for,
if
I
recall,
a
side
yard
setback
on
the
Urban
League
building.
Just
so,
we
can
create
the
child
care
space
that
we
need
to
conduct
the
the
business
I
think
those
are
the
two
variances
that
we're
going
to
be
requesting
of
the
zba,
and
it's
just
like
I
said
it's
a
68
000,
that's
a
68
unit
building
about
64
000
square
feet.
G
We
also
I
think
in
your
packet.
You
can
see
that
while
we
have
23,
I,
think
23
spaces
of
parking
on
site
we've
been
able
to
meet
reach
an
agreement
with
avre,
which
is
just
one
block
down
the
street.
You
get
40
spaces
additional
and
for
the
project
and
if
and
I,
think,
I'll
answer
any
questions
you
may
have,
but
I
think
that's
basically
outlines
what
we
I
think.
We've
changed!
G
Oh
and
we've
also
taken
off
there's
existing
condition
wherein
the
existing
building
connects
to
our
neighbors
building,
and
we
had
originally
added
some
stories
on
that
Edition.
We
subsequently
have
taken
them
off
so
that
condition
right.
There
is
an
existing
condition
which
we're
going
to
leave
we're
going
to
leave
the
we're
going
to
leave
that
10
10
point
whatever
feet
of
building
we're
going
to
cut
it
off
and
we'll
repurpose
that
piece
of
building
for
our
own.
G
You
know
in
our
development,
but
we're
not
going
to
make
any
changes
in
that
area
way,
which
we
both
have
joint
use
of
our
neighbor
as
well
as
the
Y,
is
a
joint
easement
for
Ingress,
egress
and
use
of
the
space
with
that
I'd
leave
it
for
any
questions.
Anyone
may
have.
F
Yeah
and
these
questions
me
I'm
going
to
First
Direct
these
to
Tito,
because
there
was
a
letter
that
was
submitted
by
a
neighbor
in
this.
For
this
thing,
are
we
allowed
to
address
issues
brought
up
in
that
letter?
F
This
point
yeah,
absolutely:
okay,
yep
I
am
not
an
expert
on
zoning
and
code
issues
so
before
I
ask
the
applicant,
if
they're
going
to
do
X,
Y
and
Z
I'm
curious
to
know
if
they're
required
to
do
x,
y
and
z,
so
one
thing
it
was
mentioned
was
that
they,
the
plan,
does
not
currently
have
required
handicapped
spot
parking
spots
as
provided
required
by
law.
Are
there
any
laws
that
require
the
applicants
to
have
specific,
marked
handicapped
parking
spots?
There.
E
Are
they
need
one
handicap
parking
space
for
every
20
standard
spaces
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and.
G
F
There's
a
second
question:
another
thing
that
was
brought
up
was
something
about
not
having
electronic
vehicle
charging
stations.
Are
there
any
requirements
in
the
code
that
applicants
have
to
start
having
X
number
of
electronic
vehicle
charging
stations.
E
No
there's
no
requirement
there.
What
there
is
is
a
bonus
where,
if
you
provide
a
charging
station
that
counts
as
two
spaces
instead
of
one,
so
it's
a
way
to
reduce
your
parking
requirement.
It's
an
incentive
to
provide
EV
charging.
F
Stations,
okay
and
the
third
thing
that
was
mentioned,
there's
no
indication
that
the
plans
that
the
current
requirements
for
incorporating
green
infrastructure
into
new
building
projects
are
being
met.
Is
there
a
requirement
for
incorporating
green
infrastructure
into
new
building
projects
for.
E
The
construction
of
new
parking
areas:
you
need
a
landscape
buffer,
okay,
but
there's
no
there's
not
necessarily
a
requirement
for
buildings
themselves,
but.
G
H
Will
that
extend
to
the
the
parking
exterior
area
where
there
would
be
like
the
buffer
that
they
were
talking
about.
G
The
building
it's
Unique,
this
parking
is
unique
because
it's
within
the
building
footprint,
okay,
so
the
buffer
is
typically
used
to
screen
parking.
Okay,
and
so
our
parking
is
pretty
much
screened
by
being
by
driving
into
the
building
and
behind
the
building
itself.
So
anything
that
comes
up
during
the
permit
review
and
whatnot
certainly
will
address.
Okay.
B
B
Not
just
to
build
on
that
you're
looking
at
possibly
lead
certification.
G
We
are
not
looking
to
do
lead
certification
just
because
of
the
cost,
but
we
do
plan
on
designing
in
energy
efficiencies
and
we're
working
on
coming
up
with
what
we
can
afford
to
put
into
the
building,
but
lead
certification.
As
you
know,
Elite
certification
is
well
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
get
that.
So
it's
just
a
cost
that
our
clientele
really
can't
bear,
and
so,
but
we
are
doing
Energy
Efficiency,
design
and
that'll
end
up
in
the
final
design
of
the
project.
Great.
A
All
right
any
other
questions
before
we
open
the
public
hearing
all
right
all
right.
Well,
no
other
questions
right
now.
So
let's
open
the
public
hearing
and
see.
If
there's
anybody
here
to
speak
about
the
project
and
then
we'll
have
you
come
back
all
right.
So
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
fast
construction.
The
project
address
is
45,
Carroll,
Street
and
20
to
24
Lyle
Ave.
A
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
the
construction
of
a
five-story
social
services
facility
with
60
sleeping
units
in
the
child
care
center
in
the
R3
multi-unit
dwelling
District.
If
there's
anybody
who
would
like
to
speak
about
the
project,
if
you
could,
please
come
up
to
our
microphone
nope
all
right
and
if
you
guys
don't
mind
yep.
B
J
J
In
fact,
34
Lyle
Street
has
a
one-story
Wing,
that's
attached
to
my
building,
they're
supposed
to
be
a
10
foot,
side
setback
and
there
is
none
there.
So
this
plan
depicts
utilizing
that
area.
J
I,
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
demolish
or
just
reconstruct
that
area,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
toilet
and
the
79
square
foot
reception
area
that
there
are
attaching
to
my
building
in
non-conformance
with
the
R3
requirement
in
that
zone
is
not
something
that
they
really
have
justification
and
seeking,
because
there
are,
is
a
282
square
foot
staff
Lounge,
which
is
in
that
area
which
could
easily
accommodate
the
toilet
in
a
reception
area
and
reconfigured
Lobby
if
they
need
a
staff
Lounge.
J
The
zoning
analysis
is
proposing
12
foot
one
side
and
24
foot,
total
side
setbacks,
but
there's
no
set
setback
at
all
as
on
to
47
Carroll
Street,
I'm
glad
that
the
applicant
is
addressing
parking,
because
this
will
be
certainly
a
very
big
issue
here:
they're
proposing
68
units.
This
is
low
income,
housing
and
affordable
housing,
but
I
have
lots
of
low-income
tenants
and
many
of
them
have
vehicles
they're,
also
going
to
be
staff
members
that
are
going
to
be
Staffing
the
the
daycare
center,
as
well
as
in
the
plan.
J
There
will
be
visitors
that
there
will
be
the
tenants
service
providers,
security
staff,
maintenance
staff
and
so
forth,
and
they
will
all
need
parking.
So
that's
good
that
they're
addressing
that.
J
J
Here
in
terms
of
potentially
solar
panels,
but
there's
nothing
on
the
plan
here,
so
I
don't
know
what
they're
planning
on
putting
them
flat
on
the
roof
or
on
on
some
type
of
scaffolding.
But
it
really
needs
to
be
clarified
how
high
that
will
go.
J
There's
really
no
basis
for
seeking
such
relief
as
the
circumstances
that
the
YWCA
is
seeking.
Relief
for
is
being
self-imposed,
so
they
could
easily
stay
within
the
legally
required
R3
Zone
requirements
by
constructing
a
four
story
rather
than
a
five-story
complex,
which
would
bring
the
building
in
at
44.44
Feet
3
inches,
which
would
be
9
inches
shy
of
of
the
maximum
and
conforming
with
the
R3
Zone.
A
What
is
the
effect
on
you
if
they
go
the
extra
eight
feet
versus
if
they
get
their
variance
for
the
height
I,
get
the
attaching
to
your
building?
That's
a
weird
circumstance
that
I
think
I
appreciate.
You
came
and
talked
because
I
didn't
understand
exactly
what
was
happening
with
that
and
that
you
weren't
before
that,
but
the
height
of
the
building
I,
don't
understand
how
that
affects.
You
I'm
just
curious.
If
you
would
mind
well.
J
The
the
height
of
the
building
there
are
windows
on
the
west
side
of
my
building,
several
windows
and,
of
course,
the
higher
the
building
that
is
literally
ten
and
a
half
feet.
From
my
building,
the
less
light
natural
light,
my
building
will
have
okay.
A
B
C
A
G
Wanna
make
a
point
that
the
one-story
connection
to
his
Mr
Kent's
building
is
an
existing
condition.
We
are
not
adding
that
we're
just
leaving
it.
Okay
and
the
reason
we
went
up.
One
story
was
to
mitigate
the
side
yard
setbacks
so
that
it
would
minimize,
you
know,
reduce
any
requests
for
variances
along
that
lines.
G
So
we've
not
put
any
egress
into
that
10
foot
shared
easement
that
we
have
between
the
two
buildings
we've
taken,
the
dumpsters
out
of
that
area,
although
Mr
Kent
does
have
a
dumpster
in
the
area
and
so
I
I
think
and
the
height
is,
is
really
consistent
with
what
the
new
development
in
that
neighborhood
is
is
going
on
and
I
misspoke
it
without
the
pharmacy
school.
We
did
do
that,
but
we
it's
the
incubator
across
the
street,
from
the
building
the
incubator
building.
B
F
Yeah
I'm
not
even
sure
this
is
really
a
question
or
a
comment
or
I'm.
Just
thinking
out
loud
here,
I
I
think
there's.
There
may
be
a
distinction
between
the
project
being
proposed
here
and
the
incubator,
because
the
incubator,
I
guess
for
lack
of
being
an
architect
or
an
engineer,
is
not
overshadowing
a
neighboring
building.
You
know:
there's
there's
not
somebody
next
door
who's
going
to
have
all
their
light,
blocked
out
as
the
neighbors
claiming
right.
G
F
Let
me
ask
this:
if
yeah
I'm,
not
an
engineer,
have
you
performed
a
light
analysis?
I
know,
you've
had
that
done
in
other
projects
and
shade
analysis
is
that
is
that
something
you've
done
I,
don't
want
to
suggest
you're
just
talking
on
your
backside,
but
if,
if
you've
done
that
to
be
be
confident
that
it's
not
good,
there
are
three
sides.
G
G
G
B
Stop
comment
to
Chris,
perhaps
I'm,
looking
at
the
drawing
see
the
north
Arrow
on
the
bottom.
There,
the
sun
comes
up
and
settled
from
the
east
in
it
sets
in
the
west.
That
arrow
is
like
in
a
little
incline,
so
the
sun
would
come
up
this
way
and
set
that
way.
So
that's
how
you
could
gauge
the
effect
and
the
sun
will
be
in
the
south
or
because,
where
we
are
at
40
something
north
latitude,
that's
of
course
I'm
trying
to
think
through
that.
B
B
F
Really
happened:
did
you
did
you
want
to
address
the
concerns
that
were
raised
about
and
I'm
gonna,
not
having
this
letter
memorized
issues
with
the
Elevator
Shaft
and
the
stairwells
and
how
that
may
be
higher
I.
F
G
Me
ask
your
questions:
do
the
stairwells
there's
one
stair
that
goes
to
the
roof,
not
two
and
there's
the
elevator
shaft
that
has
to
go
up
I
believe
four
feet
in
order
to
get
the
clearance
but
I'm
not
sure
they're,
calculated
in
the
height
of
the
roof.
E
G
Stairwell,
maybe
okay,
but
the
elevator
would
be
close.
It.
E
I'm
going
to
double
check
that
right
now
there
are
sort
of
accessory
or
incidental
projections
from
the
roof
that
are
not
counted
in
the
official
calculation
of
the
height.
E
F
Check
that
that's
fine
I
mean
the
reason
I'm
asking
is,
you
know
I'm
the
little
I
know
when
buildings
are,
you
know
competing
people
would
be
the
tallest
building
in
the
world.
There's
you
know,
are
we
counting
the
antennas
which
are
5
000
feet
tall
I
mean
so
if
the
neighbor's
concern
is
Building
height
regardless,
what
the
legal
definition
of
what's
a
legal
height
is,
if
there's
50
feet
of
additional
stuff
causing
Shadows
I,
think
that's
something
we
need
to
consider.
F
G
E
Just
to
answer
a
question
from
before
we
used
to
have
a
specific
requirement
for
number
proportion
of
spaces
that
have
to
be
handicapped
accessible.
We
took
that
out
and
just
made
it
that
they
have
to
follow
in
federal
and
state
guidelines,
and
then
the
other
thing
I
want
to
clarify
is
that
the
existing
attached
portion
is
non-conforming,
but
the
way
that
that
the
city
deals
with
non-conforming
issues
is,
if
they're
not
making
it
more
non-conforming,
then
it
can
stay,
as
is
so.
E
G
C
Google
shot
looks
like
it
was
taken,
probably
in
the
afternoon,
sometime
early
spring,
because
the
trees
aren't
sprouting,
but
the
grass
is
green.
It
doesn't
have
a
date
on
it,
so
I
don't
know
exactly
what
it
was,
but
this
is
the
closest
thing
we
can
have
to
show
what
the
sun
is
doing.
With
respect
to
Shadows
of
that
location,
foreign.
A
Just
out
of
curiosity
from
the
history
of
the
buildings
at
some
point
did
both
of
these
buildings
belong
to
the
same
person
or
how
did
the?
How
did
they
building
get
attached
to
another
building
on
a
separate
property?
I.
G
Don't
know
that,
but
if
you
look
around
the
city
of
Binghamton
you're,
going
to
find
a
lot
of
buildings
that
have
zero
lot
lines
right
now,
if
you
go
down
Shenango,
Street
or
any
of
those
streets,
because
I've
look
I've
worked
on
a
lot
of
these
buildings
they're
just
it's
the
way
it
was
constructed
that
can
whenever
they
did
it,
but
there's
a
lot
of
zero.
Zero
outlines
right.
Common
walls.
A
G
C
G
We
took
the
dumpsters
out.
We,
we
took
all
the
additional
stories
off
the
existing
condition
where
it
was
attached
to
the
building
to
remove
the
issue
concern
he
had
with
natural
light,
gotcha
and
and
so
that
easement
and
legally,
we
both
have
a
right
to
cross
all
right.
That's
a
shared
easement.
All.
G
G
I'll
I'll
speak
for
Richard.
There
he's
he's
been
down
to
the
site,
he's
thinking,
there's
an
existing
driveway.
There
curb
cut.
A
Okay
and
the
and
the
trash
it's
screened,
it's
inside
a
fence,
yeah.
C
B
G
B
A
All
right,
if
there's
no
other
questions
or
comments,
all
right,
so
I'll
make
a
motion.
Oh
wait.
Tito
does
this.
This
is
going
to
require
some
variances.
E
A
E
They're
scheduled
to
appear
next
Tuesday
do.
E
Not
a
type
one
action,
so
you
do
not
need
the
zba
to
conclude
what
they're
doing
okay.
But
if
you
were
to
vote
tonight,
it
would
be
contingent
on
the
zba
approving
the
variance.
E
A
Seeker
but
don't
rule
on
the
site
plan
until
after
they've
granted
their
variances
or
denied.
E
A
Perfect
all
right
all
right,
so
at
our
last
meeting
or
the
last
time
you
were
in,
we
determined
that
this
was
a
type
one
action
under
seeker,
and
so
I
will
make
a
motion
that
this
is
a
negative
declaration
for
secret
review,
based
on
the
following
on
land.
The
proposed
section
involved,
construction
on
or
physical
alteration
of
the
land
surface
of
the
proposed
site.
Yes,
but
it'll
have
a
small
or
no
impact
to
them
impact
on
geological
features.
C
A
Impacts
on
surface
water,
the
proposed
action
may
affect
one
or
more
Wetlands
or
other
surface
water
bodies,
no
impact
on
groundwater.
The
proposed
action
may
result
in
New
Or,
additional
use
of
groundwater
or
have
the
potential
to
introduce
contaminants
to
groundwater
or
an
aquifer,
no
impact
on
flooding.
The
proposed
action
may
result
in
development
on
land
subject
to
flooding,
No
in
fact,
impact
on
air.
The
proposed
action
may
include
a
state-regulated
air
emission
Source,
no
impact
on
plants
and
animals.
A
The
proposed
action
may
result
in
a
loss
of
Flora
or
fauna
no
impact
on
agricultural
resources.
The
proposed
action
may
impact
agricultural
resources,
no
impact
on
aesthetic
resources.
The
land
use
of
the
proposed
action
are
obviously
different
from
or
are
in
sharp
contrast
to
current
land
use
patterns
between
the
proposed
project
and
a
Scenic
or
aesthetic
resource,
no
impact
on
historic
or
archaeological
resources.
The
proposed
action
may
occur
in
or
adjacent
to
a
historic
or
archaeological
resource,
I,
don't
believe
so.
A
No
impact
on
open
space
and
Recreation
the
proposed
action
may
result
in
a
loss
of
recreational
opportunities
or
a
reduction
of
an
open
space
Resource
as
designated
in
any
adopted
Municipal
open
space
plan,
no
impact
on
critical
environmental
areas.
The
proposed
action
may
be
located
within
or
adjacent
to
a
critical
environmental
area,
no
impact
on
Transportation.
The
proposed
action
may
result
in
a
change
to
existing
Transportation
Systems,
no
impact
on
energy
energy.
A
The
proposed
action
may
result
in
an
increase
in
the
use
of
any
form
of
energy,
yes,
but
it
will
have
no
or
small
impact
based
on
that
use,
impact
on
noise,
odor
and
light.
The
proposed
action
may
result
in
an
increase
in
noise,
odors
or
outdoor
lighting.
Yes,
but
it'll
have
minimal
or
no
impact
in
terms
of
environmental
significance
impact
on
human
health.
The
proposed
action
may
have
an
impact
on
human
health
exposure
to
new
or
existing
sources
of
contaminants,
no
consistency
with
Community
plans.
The
proposed
action
is
not
consistent
with
adopted
land
use
plans.
A
A
A
E
A
K
Thanks
I
didn't
speak
much
last
time,
but
Kyle
is
not
feeling
well
today.
So
I
figured
we're
going
to
expose
you
all
to
him.
K
Oh
I'm,
an
existing
single
family
residence
that
has
been
chained
previous
owner
into
six
bedrooms
currently
legally
shown
at
the
four
bedroom
when
I
make
it
illegal
six
bedroom
in
this
building,
it's
allowed.
The
site
unfortunately,
has
been
paid
previously
as
well.
There's
plenty
of
departments.
Last
time
we
did
discussed
a
little
bit
garbage
collaboration
interface.
If
you
have
any
more
comments
on
that,
otherwise
no
changes
for
the
building.
Thank
you.
K
That's
not
all
right,
I
guess:
I'll
have
to
sit
down
then
Jeffrey
Smith
Janice
and
Anderson
Architects
31
Front,
Street,
Binghamton,
New,
York
13905,
representing
the
the
property
on
Holly
Street.
It's
an
existing
single
family
residence
that
is
listed
as
a
four
bedroom
in
the
city
of
Binghamton
records.
The
new
owners
want
to
make
it
legal
as
a
six
bedroom
which
it
currently
exists.
Now.
A
All
right
any
questions
before
we
open
a
public
hearing,
so
it's
pretty
straightforward
all
right.
Well,
let's
do
the
public
hearing
and
see
if
there's
anybody
here
to
speak
about
the
project.
So
this
is
the
public
hearing
for
the
applicant
Eagle
Properties
LLC
project
address
is
131
Holly
Street.
This
is
a
site
plan
review
and
special
use
permit
for
the
conversion
of
an
existing
two-story
building
into
a
congregate
living
facility
with
six
sleeping
units
in
the
R3
multi-unit
dwelling
District.
If
there's
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
about
the
project,
please
come
to
the
microphone.
A
All
right,
seeing
none,
we
determined
that
this
was
a
type
2
action
at
our
last
meeting.
A
K
Excellent,
thank
you
very
much.
You're
welcome,
could
I
say
something
else
about
I've
been
taking
notes
in
the
previous
kind
of
project
that
was
presented
here
earlier
and
I'm,
hoping
whatever
I
say,
doesn't
affect
that
project
at
all.
I,
don't
know
if
I
wanna,
not
speaking
all
right,
maybe
I
should
just
be
quiet,
we'll
we'll
talk
offwards.
So
there
were
some
good
points
made,
and
some
good
comments
made
and
a
lot
of
those
comments
are
things
that
design
professional
should
have
answered
in
the
submission.
K
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
that
concludes
public
hearings
and
final
deliberations.
Now
we're
on
to
other
business,
where
we
have
an
extension
for
200,
Court,
Street.
E
Yep,
so
the
applicant
for
200
core
street
is
looking
for
a
12-month
extension
to
their
Planning
Commission
approval,
which
was
granted.
E
February
15
2021,
I'm,
sorry
2022,
so
it's
set
to
expire
they're,
not
quite
ready
to
apply
for
building
permits
because
they're
waiting
for
state
and
federal
review
of
their
of
their
Grant
funded
project
and
they're
still
working
through
that
with
the
National
Park
Service,
so
they're
asking
for
a
12-month
extension
and
they
expect
to
be
able
to
submit
permit
applications
in
July,
but
they're
asking
for
12
months
to
have
enough
cushion
and
as
a
reminder,
this
is
the
rehabilitation
of
the
sheltered
workshop
building
into
110
total
units,
including
a
three-story
Edition,
on
the
rear
of
that
building.
A
F
Yeah
just
to
go
back
to
one
of
the
topics
from
the
45
Carroll
Street
project
about
electronic
vehicles.
Tito.
Is
it
possible
to
want
email
to
me
whatever
the
current
bonus
points
are
and
I
do
wonder
if
we,
as
possibly
as
a
Planning
Commission,
should
have
some
longer
term
thoughts
about
this?
The
reason
I
ask
is
that
New,
York
State
and
all
of
its
wisdom
has
passed
a
law
that
by
2035
combustion,
Vehicles
can't
be
sold
in
York
State
anymore,
to
try
to
drive
everybody
to
an
electronic
vehicle
purchasings.
F
So
I'm
curious
what
we
should
be
considering
as
far
as
a
city
to
make
sure
that
we're
as
helpful
as
possible
to
that
new
2035
reality,
whether
it's
making
sure
our
city
vehicles,
but
also
making
sure
that
our
residents
have
appropriate
access
because
bless
the
one
unnamed
business
up
there
up
in
Frontier.
That's
got
you
know:
14
Teslas.
We
there's
got
to
be
other
options
in
town
people
to
go:
get
electronic
charging
for
their
vehicles.
If
that's
what
we're
gonna
be
looking
at
it
right,
January
1st
2035.
E
Yeah,
that
was
the
idea,
was
to
not
require
it.
The
mayor
at
the
time
didn't
think
it
was
appropriate
to
make
that
a
requirement,
but
he
wanted
to
sort
of
incentivize
it
to
start
building
that
infrastructure,
because
we
don't,
we
don't
have
a
ton
of
charging
stations.
So
are
you
suggesting
that
that
it
should
become
a
requirement
for
certain
sites
of
project
or
something
like
that?
I.
F
Don't
know
if
I
want
to
say
that,
but
I
think
it's.
It's
I
think
a
discussion
about
what
we
can
right.
Yeah.
What
options
would
be
I'm,
hesitant
about
putting
additional
verdictions
because
I
know
EV
charging
stations
are
very
expensive,
sure
and
I
don't
want
to
be
overly
burdensome.
But
if
there's
things
we
should
be
looking
at
yeah
I'm.
Assuming
does
this
planning
and
code
have
some
sort
of
a
map
of
where
EB
charging
stations
currently
exist
in
the
city
we
don't
have.
B
B
E
What
I
will
say
is
that
the
the
Planning
Commission
can
ask
for
for
that
sort
of
thing.
You
can
add
for
that
on
a
site
plan
and
it
is
sort
of
burdensome,
but
in
certain
cases
it
would
be
justified
like,
for
example,
if
somebody's
building
a
very
large
project
with
a
hundred
space
surface
parking
lot
that
has
formed
and
stuff
like
that.
So
you
can
say
this
is
too
much
paved
area.
E
F
B
On
that
person
on
that
line
and
in
general
the
question
about
wheat
that
I
brought
up
there's
a
scoring
sheet
for
lead
buildings.
You
could
get
gold,
platinum,
silver
classification
and
you
get
points
for
charge
and
you
get
points
for
bike
racks.
B
But
even
though
someone
may
not
want
to
go
for
a
lead
certification,
there
might
be
no
Armin
having
that
as
part
of
an
application
form
or
people
just
check
off
what
things
they're
doing,
per
lead
and
submit
it
and
they're
not
going
for
the
formal
100
000
license,
but
it'd
be
a
criteria
to
get
to
see
that
you'd
have
all
the
proper
Landscaping
bike
racks
out
charging
station.
E
A
Yeah
the
we
have
a
meeting
on
Thursday
at
the
University
to
start
talking
about
our
plan
for
addressing
that
requirement.
Is
all
fleet
vehicles
on
campus
have
to
switch
over
by
then
too
so
we're
going
to
need
to
make
some
plans.
So
maybe
we'll
have
some
ideas
by
the
next
meeting
for
the
city
too,.
A
Tito
I
have
a
question
about
the
project.
At
the
corner
of
floral
labs
and
Main
Street
there
was
the
convenience
store.
They
were
supposed
to
put
up
blockades
to
prevent
parking
that
backs
out
onto
the
street.
They
they
haven't
and
I
watched
Somebody
almost
get
run
over
by
a
car
over
the
break.
The
holiday
break
here
just
curious
if
they're
operating
that
as
the
convenience
store
already
and
why
they
haven't
put
up
their.
A
F
Honey
on
a
similar
note,
I'm
curious
about
I
heard
that
our
friends
up
around
Upper
Front
Street
were
decorating
one
of
the
Wreckers
with
a
Merry
Christmas
Nick,
a
sign
how's
that
going
with
the
the
ever
increasing
Fleet
of
Records.
E
Yeah,
our
zoning
officer
just
got
back
so
we'll
we'll
have
to
get
on
his
list.
A
All
right
and
then
one
last
question
I
think:
did
we
ever
approve
the
Galaxy
Brewing
moving
to
Clinton
Street
and
what
ultimately
wound
up
happening
with
that?
That.
E
Did
get
approved,
there
was
an
issue
between
the
seller
and
buyer.
Okay,.
A
E
Yeah
there
was
some
there's
a
bunch
of
stuff
going
on
there
between
those
parties,
but
as
far
as
the
city
was
concerned,
it
was
good
to
go.
Okay,
all.