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From YouTube: 2022.09.06 Zoning Board of Appeals
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Contents
00:00 Call to Order
05:00 77 Pine Street
21:45 Public Comments — Kathy
24:44 Public Comments — Anne & James
25:40 Q&A
34:10 Public Comments - Eric
37:00 Q&A Continues
45:50 Motions
49:30 Variances
B
A
I'd
like
to
call
the
september
zba
meeting
to
order
good
evening.
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
those
of
you
that
I
can
see
and
those
that
I
can't
welcome
to
this
september,
2022
zoning
board
of
appeals
meeting.
My
name
is
kelly.
Donovan,
I'm
the
chair
of
this
board.
For
those
of
you
have
never
attended.
One
of
our
meetings.
I'll
quickly
explain
how
the
meeting
is
conducted.
First,
we'll
ask
the
applicant
to
state
their
name
and
address
for
the
record,
discuss
your
proposed
project
or
request
for
variance
and
then
we'll
have
some
questions
for
you.
A
Hopefully
floor
will
then
be
open
for
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
in
favor
or
against
the
proposed
project.
That'd
be
any
of
our
standby
folks.
I
think
we'll
ask
you
to
raise
your
hand
or
to
call
in,
and
that
number
will
be
given
once
we
get
to
that
point.
Once
everybody's
had
an
opportunity
to
speak,
the
public
hearing
will
be
officially
closed
and
no
new
testimony
will
be
taken
after
public
hearings
have
been
held.
The
board
will
deliberate
make
a
decision
on
each
case.
A
You're
welcome
to
stay
throughout
the
deliberations,
but
again
no
public
input
is
permitted
for
those
applicants
who
wish
not
to
stay
through
the
deliberations
planning
department
staff
will
be
available
tomorrow.
With
the
board's
decision.
Zoning
board
of
appeals
is
a
five
member
board
tonight
we
have,
I
think,
right
now
we
have
four
members
present
constituting
a
quorum.
I
think
we
may
have
five
by
the
time
we're
done
here,
so
I
will
call
the
roll
mr
matzo.
C
A
A
A
A
C
A
C
A
C
D
This
is
an
area
that
primarily
has
been
lacking
investment
over
years
and
an
area
that
may
be
seeking
more
synergy,
more
foot
traffic.
So
we
started
in
peak
skill.
New
york
went
to
poughkeepsie
new
york,
I'm
actually
in
beacon
new
york
in
one
of
the
units
here
that
we
did,
we
built
a
market
rate
building
right
adjacent
to
one
of
our
mixed
income
units.
What
we're
proposing
here
in
binghamton
is
similar
to
our
model
that
we
developed
in
the
hudson
valley.
D
D
We
build
a
lost
style
apartment
with
high
ceilings.
We
also
build
retail.
Here
we
have
five
stores
very
similar
to
pixel.
We
have
five
stores
and
we're
emulating
the
concept
whereby
we'll
have
four
retail
stores
for
rent
the
middle
store
will
actually
act
as
the
lobby
and
a
gallery
for
the
building.
So
if
you
enter
the
building
off
of
henry
street,
you
will
walk
into
an
area
that
will
also
resemble
an
art
gallery.
We
have
one
in
pigskills
worked
out
quite
well.
We
have
five
stores
two
on
each
side.
D
D
D
D
We've
worked
with
the
neighbors,
some
of
our
other
applications
or
other
projects.
In
the
hudson
valley.
We
have
two
projects
that
are
currently
under
construction
in
upstate
new
york,
one
is
in
oneonta,
one
is
in
rome
and
we
hope
to
we
hope
to
break
ground
next
year,
possibly
in
gloversville
as
well
I'll.
Let
dom
talk
more
about
the
specifics
of
of
the
of
the
use
variants,
but
I
will
say
that
we
develop
our
own
properties.
D
We
have
our
own
construction
company
but,
more
importantly,
we
manage
our
own
properties
and
we
feel
very
strongly
that
this
project
fits
in
with
the
with
the
goals
and
division
of
the
stadium
district
plan,
and
we
also
need
we
have
a
a
model
and
our
model,
the
units
or
the
unit
count
is
always
around
the
same
about
64
or
65,
and
the
pine
street
lot
is
part
of
that
part
of
that
unit.
Count.
D
E
Yeah
thanks
thanks
ken
yeah,
just
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
the
project
and
specifically
the
use
variance
piece
that
we're
talking
about
tonight.
So
there's
three
contiguous
football,
four
contiguous
properties,
three
along
henry
and
then
one
to
the
rear,
which
is
actually
a
pine
street
address.
E
The
three
henry
street
units
are
in
the
c4
commercial
neighborhood
district,
where
the
pine
street
parcel
is
in
our
two
residential
two
unit,
one
and
two
unit
dwelling
district,
so
eventually
the
and
prior
to
construction.
The
the
four
latch
will
be
combined
into
one,
but
that
zoning
line
will
will
obviously
remain
so.
E
The
the
piece
on
the
if
you're,
looking
at
tito's
screen
here
to
the
bottom
of
the
page,
to
the
left,
that
kind
of
l
extension
which
would
be
to
the
south
left
on
your
screen,
is
the
pine
street
parcel
and
basically,
what
you're
looking
at
is
a
one
two
bedroom
and
three
one
bedroom
units
on
each
level
and
on
on
that
that
piece
of
the
building
will
be
three
levels.
So
in
total
you
have
nine
one
bedroom
units
and
three
two
bedroom
units
being
constructed
on
pine
street.
A
E
There
there
will,
I
should
point
out
there
will
be
we're
still
kind
of
fine-tuning
the
plans
and
the
surveys
have
come
in
subsequent
to
our
initial
submission
here.
So
as
we
fine-tune
the
plans,
we'll
know
exactly
what
we're
submitting
on,
but
there
will
be
a
handful
of
other
area,
variances,
probably
rear
yard
setback.
E
B
E
A
E
A
E
D
F
E
C
F
E
E
So
right
on
henry
street
across
chapman
it
is
162
henry
street.
It's
part
of
the
sal,
so
that'll
be
used
for
parking
and
then
229
court
street,
which
is
on
the
corner
of
chapman
and
court.
As
you
get
off
the
brandywine
immediately
adjacent
to
the
moravital
gas
station
there.
So
it's
the
corn
on
court
and
chapman.
D
We
didn't
have
one
one
parking
spot
on
site
and
it
was
a
process
with
the
city
of
of
trying
to
come
up
with
the
solution
and
what
we
did
sean
and
I
agreed
there
were
two
under
utilized
parking
garages
within
walking
distance
of
the
project,
and
so
we
agreed
to
rent
some
some
spaces
in
these
garages.
But
what
we
didn't
realize
was
the
impact
on
the
foot
traffic
that
having
tenants
park
two
or
three
blocks
away
and
having
to
walk
to
their
cars.
D
You
know
in
the
morning
and
at
night
and
so
forth,
on
the
weekends
it
really
it.
It
created
more
foot
traffic
on
the
sidewalk
that
the
area
didn't
have
before
and
it's
been
a
very,
very
positive,
impactful
byproduct
of
our
project,
and
so
we
we
feel
that
these,
these
two
lots
will
hopefully
have
the
same
impact
that,
for
the
same
result,
we
had
down
at
peak
scale.
A
E
C
A
C
A
C
H
Hi,
my
name
is
kathy
staples.
I
live
at
79
pine
street,
so
you
can
imagine
that
I'm
slightly
concerned
about
a
wing
of
a
very
large
building
being
put
into
a
very
narrow
lot
right
next
to
my
house
now.
My
understanding
is
that
it's
three
stories
which
there
isn't
any
building
on
the
street
that
exists
that's
more
than
two
stories
because
residential
neighborhood,
that's
why
we
live
there
and
that's
why
our
kids
grow
up
there.
H
So
in
this
residential
neighborhood
that
I'm
living
and
I'm
buying
my
house
and
I
want
to
stay
in
binghamton
and
I'm
going
gonna
have
a
balcony
next
door
to
my
bedroom.
If
I'm
looking
at
the
plans
correctly
that
the
second
floor
line
between
77
and
79,
I
guess
maybe
second
and
third
floor
get
a
balcony.
H
H
We
did
have
input
and
we
did
like
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
process,
but
it
seems
like
after
that
meeting
and
what
we're
now
seeing
is
that
our
thoughts
and
comments
and
input
was
completely
ignored
and
we
said
repeatedly
that
the
residents
of
pine
street
were
one
of
the
few
low-income
like
residential
streets
left
we've.
The
city
has
managed
to
push
most
low
income
into
housing
projects,
and
so
we
said
we
need
housing
for
family
that
people
in
the
city
are
screaming.
C
You
clearly,
okay,
this
is
from
ann
and
james
cloone.
We
live
at
89
pine.
We
have
a
lot
of
trouble
with
snow
and
cars
needing
to
park
on
alternate
sides
of
the
street
in
the
winter
months,
we're
concerned
about
adding
12
units
on
our
block
if
there
won't
be
12
parking
places
off
the
street
for
the
inhabitants.
C
C
E
E
A
E
E
And-
and
I
should
point
the
the
other
thing
I
just
want
to
point
out
just
for
clarification.
The
the
the
balcony
the
staples
referred
to
in
her
comments
is,
is
that's
just
the
first
floor
for
for
emergency
egress.
That's
not
a
balcony
that'll
appear
on
the
other
levels,
so
on
the
floor
plan.
It's
second
level
because
it's
first
floor
on
pine
street
will
be
the
second
level
of
the
building
because
of
the
great
change
between
pine
and
green
right.
So
that's
just
a
great
level.
Porch.
D
D
We
had
a
neighbor
immediately
to
the
left
and
we
were
in
a
split
zone
almost
and
the
neighbor
had
a
two-story
house
and
we
were
building
a
much
larger
structure
than
than
their
house
and
we
were
able
to
you
know
accommodate
them
as
part
of
our
approval
process.
We
agreed
to
the
board
of
the
planning
board
at
the
time.
I
don't
think
it
was.
D
D
Thank
you
and
okay,
one
more
thing
on
the
unit
on
the
units
shawn
and
I
have
different
models
and
we
built
you
know
three
bedroom
units,
but
we
have
found
in
this
case
here
we
have
22
two
bedrooms,
22
two
bedrooms
and
they
will
be
for
families.
We
also
have
a
number
of
people
in
the
one
bedrooms
that
have
one
child
as
well.
D
In
addition
to
that,
we
also
have
a
program
where
our
the
artist
tenants,
we
encourage
them,
and
we
set
up
out
of
our
management
fund.
We
fund
programs
so
that
they
can
encourage
the
non-uh
these
the
children,
whether
they're
from
a
a
household
with
a
artistic
background
or
not.
We
encourage
our
artists
tenants
to
work
with
the
children
after
school.
We
have
an
on-site
community
room
and
we
supplement
that
with
some
funds
ongoing.
So
you
will
have
children
here,
but
it's
not
a
large
family
project.
That's
a
different
model.
Thank.
A
You,
okay
yeah,
my
point:
there
was
looking
at
how
you
interact
with
your
neighbors
and
whether
it's
fencing
or
some
other
accommodation
you've
answered
my
question
that
that
you
do
look
into
those
those
interactions
and
it
seems
favorably
based
on
your
interaction
with
people
that
are
still
there.
Thank
you.
G
D
We
have
we
looked
at
that
and
it's
just.
We
feel
that
the
way
this
lays
out
it's
very
consistent
with
our
model.
Our
model-
that's
been
successful
in
this
is
a
very
competitive
funding
that
we
must
that
we
must
compete
for
and
so
we're
trying
to
stay
within
the
lines
of
the
the
model
that
that
we've
been
successful
with,
and
this
this
type
of
layout
is
not
something
that
is
foreign
to
us.
As
I
mentioned,
you
know
in
peak
scope.
A
I
A
I
Okay
gotcha,
so
my
biggest
concern
with
that
is
that
with
three
feet
of
building
in
that
lot,
you're
basically
gonna
throw
my
entire
roof
into
shadow,
which
makes
my
solar
panels.
You
know
not
make
energy.
So
that's
a
really
big
concern.
For
me.
I've
done
the
solar
calculations
on
that
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
have
you
guys
do
that
or
check
my
math
on
that.
I
But
that's
a
big
concern
for
me
and
I
think
the
other
big
concern
is
that
with
a
three
three-foot
building
like
that,
I
think
that
kind
of
gets
rid
of
or
severely
reduces
the
privacy.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
adjacent
lots
I
mean:
that's
gonna
basically
render
my
backyard
as
public,
publicly
viewable
property,
as
well
as
ms
staples
property
and
some
of
the
other
properties,
which
I
think
is
something
that's
definitely
a
concern
to
the
residents
in
the
area.
A
A
A
C
A
B
I
believe
that
you
should
probably
open
it
up
for
one
more
request
for
calls.
After
no
one
lets
you
talk
to
you
that's
next
minute,
or
so
you
could
probably
proceed
with
declaring
the
type
of
project.
I
think
that's
pretty
clear,
like
the
secret
type
yep,
I
don't
believe
you
can
make
a
resolution
on
that
or
the
overall
variance,
but
I
believe
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
was
in
an
opening
to
the
public
was
that
there
was
anything
concerns
that
were
raised,
that
you
believe
the
applicant
could
address
by
next
month's
meeting.
B
A
B
To
address
this,
the
last
speaker
they
may
want
to
do
some
renderings
or
drop
drawings
or
calculations
showing
we
don't
have
an
elevation
from
that
side.
So
maybe
having
an
elevation
from
that
side
towards
79
would
not
be
a
bad
thing
to
include
in
their
submission
next
month
right
because
right
now,
what's
showing
on
chapman
is
four,
but
perhaps
down
on
79.
B
It's
only
three
because
of
the
elevation
changes,
and
I
think
that'd
be
something
that
visually
and
if
you
could
put
what
it
looks
like
with
that
house
what
the
sun
is
like
and
how,
whether
it
will
is
three
stories
going
to
block
the
sunlight
two
blocks
over
or
two
two
lots
over.
That's
something
that
the
board
should
look
into,
and
you
should
ask
for
that
information.
A
A
I
know
trees
have
an
effect.
It
depends
on
the
age
of
your
solar
panels.
There's
a
lot
of
variables
involved
in
solar
power,
but
as
far
as
the
neighborhood
goes,
there
are
a
few
things
for
you
for
you
to
think
about
between
now
and
next
and
next
month's
meeting
tito.
Could
you
read
the
phone
number
again
for
anybody
who
happens
to
be
lurking
out
there.
G
C
B
H
I
just
had
a
question
I
didn't
know
if
you
could
answer
it
or
not
in
the
news
stories
that
were
presented,
like
you
know,
fox
and
wb,
the
city's
press
release
talked
about
the
building
just
being
on
henry
street.
Do
we
happen
to
know
why
they
didn't
mention
in
those
same
stories
that
it
was
also
going
to
be
on
pine
street,
and
why,
when
I
asked
the
reporter,
I
had
no
idea
what
I
was
talking
about.
A
C
A
H
Yeah,
I
understand
that
part
we
did.
You
know.
I
now
have
a
fire
station
across
the
street
from
my
house
that
wasn't
there
before
when
I
moved
in,
and
those
were
residential
lots
across
the
street
from
my
house
too,
so
it
just
sort
of
gives
the
impression
that
the
city
might
be
more
interested
in
making
pine
street
into
a
business
district
instead
of
allowing
the
residents
who
live
there
and
pay
to
live
there
to
remain
there.
I
And
I
think
that's,
I
think,
that's
a
really
good
point
too
to
to
go
on
kathy's
comment.
There
is
that
you
know
in
this
proposal
we're
getting
the
back
end
of
a
building
and
on
the
fire
station
we
got
the
back
end
of
a
building.
It
feels
like
the
streets.
Neighboring,
our
streets
are
getting
the
nice
things
and
we're
getting
the
utility
rooms,
the
vents
all
the
crap
parts.
A
C
A
Okay,
all
right
well
we're
not
going
to
close
the
public
hearing,
but
I
will
make
a
couple
of
motions
before
we
table
this
or
vote
to
table.
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
this
this
action
is
an
unlisted
action
and
that
zoning
board
be
the
lead
agency
for
seeker.
Could
I
get
a
second
for
those
two
motions,
all
in
favor
hi?
A
A
From
the
county
the
county
is
going
to
respond.
Yeah
applicant,
you
will
see
the
you'll.
You
should
get
the
feedback
from
the
county
on
the
239,
their
their
assessment
of
the
project
they
will.
They
will
either
have
no
issues
or
some
issues,
or
they
will
recommend
us
to
vote
for
or
against
based
on
their
determination
of
how
they
view
the
property
and
the
impacts
of
this
variance
so
be
prepared
for
what
they
may
say.
A
Once
once
we
have
their
decision
in
hand,
we
will
be
able
to
deliberate
when
we
do
get
together
next
month.
I
would
I
anticipate
that
we
will
reopen
or
pick
this
up
at
the
point
where
we
have
tabled
this.
Should
we
successfully
table
this
today
and
continue
from
there
members
of
the
public.
If
things
have
changed,
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
speak.
A
A
A
A
A
A
D
A
D
Chairman,
if
we
could,
as
don
mentioned,
we,
we
wanted
to
get
the
use
variance
in
front
of
the
board
for
consideration.
First,
we
have
some
other
variances
on
the
three
lots,
and
possibly
this
lot
as
well,
we'll
probably
incorporate
them
into
the
application
for
for
october,
and
you
know
we'll
get
some
feedback
and
see
respond
to
some
of
the
comments
and
get
some
feedback
from
the
board
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
everybody
october
3rd.
Thank
you.
A
F
A
Sometimes
we're
more
busy
tito
tends
to
take
it
relatively
easy
on
us
in
the
summertime,
the
fall
and
the
spring
seemed
to
to
bring
us
a
lot
of
business
good.
So
we
look
forward
to
it.
I
don't
know
if
you've
looked
at
this
there's
some
online
trainings
that
are
available
for
zoning
board
and
planning
board
kind
of
activities
and
there's
probably
some
in-person
ones
starting
back
up,
but
I
think
tito
and
or
the
anybody
some
other
folks
in
the
planning
department
may
have
information
for
you.
There.