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From YouTube: 2022.05.02 Zoning Board of Appeals
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00:02:55 Call to Order
00:05:00 9 Riverside Drive
00:25:20 105 Murray Street
00:44:45 1 Lathrop Ave.
B
A
D
C
C
C
C
C
Okay,
so
do
I
all
right,
welcome
everybody
been
a
while
so
we'll
get
through
this
one
case
at
a
time
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name,
my
name
is
kelly
donovan,
and
this
is
the
may
2022
zoning
board
of
appeals
meeting
for
those
of
you
who
have
never
attended
one
of
our
meetings.
I'll
quickly
explain
how
the
meeting
will
be
conducted.
C
C
Once
everyone's
had
an
opportunity
to
speak,
public
hearing
will
be
officially
closed
and
no
new
testimony
can
be
taken.
After
public
hearings
are
completed,
the
board
will
deliberate
and
we'll
make
a
decision
on
each
case.
The
public
is
welcome
to
stay
through
these
deliberations,
but
again,
no
public
input
is
permitted
once
once
closed
for
those
applicants
who
wish
not
to
stay
through
the
deliberations
planning,
department
staff
will
be
available
with
decisions
tomorrow.
C
C
I
don't
believe
we
have
any
minutes
to
look
at.
Does
that
sound,
correct
tito.
C
C
But
I'm
going
to
ask
if
the
applicants
are
present
first
case
would
be
starting
at
5
20,
which
is
just
a
few
minutes
from
now.
It's
robin
signs
for
temple,
concord,
9,
riverside
drive
and
area
variants
to
allow
35
square
foot
ground
sign
where
one
is
not
permitted
and
a
13
and
a
third
square
foot
non-commercial
sign
where
four
square
feet
is
the
maximum
size
allowed.
The
r1
single
unit
dwelling
district
to
tito
I'm
going
to
assume
someone
is
here
from
that
group.
C
G
G
C
Okay,
we'll
get
to
you
brian
after
after
the
we're
done
with
these
so
back
to
our
regular
scheduled
activities,
robin
signs
for
temple,
concord,
9,
riverside
drive.
I
already
read
that
the
description
of
the
request,
it's
an
area
of
variance,
and
if
you
would
please
kelly,
please
introduce
yourself
and
tell
us
about
your
proposal.
F
I
believe
I
sent
all
the
drawings-
I
don't
know
if
they
got
sent
out
or
how
that
works,
the
actual
that
says
35
square
foot,
the
actual
sign
panel
itself
is
only
13
and
a
quarter
square
foot,
the
fabricated
post
and
the
decoration
around
it
to
make
it
match
the
building
is
what
ends
up
being
the
full
35
square
foot.
F
The
temple
concord
is
much
smaller,
that's
only
like
a
nine
and
a
half
square
foot,
but
I
guess
that's
in
a
specialized
the
r1
zoning.
I
guess
I
think
that's
the
problem
with
that.
One
and
the
fact
that
there's
the
two
on
that
same
piece
of
property
we're
just
looking
to
basically
get
people
to
the
right
buildings,
because
there's
no
signage
there
now.
C
C
John
and
ernie
did
you
guys
see
those
signs,
okay
and
staff?
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it's
the
grounds
sign
they're
not
permitted
at
all
in
an
r1
and
the
other.
One
is
just
too
large
whether
it's
nine
square
feet
or
13.
A
Correct
so
the
the
commercial
sign
which
the
kilmer
mansion
sign,
we're
considering
commercial
sign,
a
commercial
sign,
because
it's
advertising
the
use
of
the
space
for
events-
that's
not
permitted
in
the
r1
at
all.
Okay
and
then
the
temple
concord
sign
is
a
non-commercial
sign,
but
the
maximum
size
for
non-commercial
signs
is
four
square
feet,
and
this
is
exceeding
that
size.
C
But
tito
do
you
have
to
count
the
whole
base
in
that
or
not.
A
F
I
don't
think
so,
they're
just
really
concerned
with
people
being
able
to
go
to
the
right
building
the
first
time
right.
They've
had
people
go
to
other
the
other
temple,
that's
down
the
street.
I
guess
because
this
one's
not
marked
as
well
and
with
the
event
starting
at
the
mansion.
They
just
want
people
to
be
have
the
ease
of
finding
it.
D
A
That's
how
we
measure
the
sign,
so
you
know
for
consistency
that
that's
how
we
do
it.
That's
not
right,
though,
as
an
example
someone's
got
the
sign.
A
C
Well,
it's
it's
an
absurd
argument
for
the
purpose
of
description,
but
I
get
it
if,
if
the
sign
weren't
there
that
little
brick
piece
wouldn't
be
necessary
well.
C
C
H
D
C
D
H
C
Okay
at
this
point,
then,
I
would
ask
to
open-
or
let's
see
does
this
say
I
make
the
motions
for
what,
if
I
make
the
motions
that
for
zoning
board
to
be
the
lead
agency
for
seeker?
Could
I
have
a
second.
C
C
Oh
right
type,
this
is,
and
could
I
also
make
a
motion
that
this
is
an
unlisted
action?
Could
I
have
a
second
second,
all
in
favor
all
right,
all
right
all
right,
then.
I
would
like
to
open
the
public
hearing
public
comments
on
nine
riverside
drive.
Anybody
that
you
can
see
is
present
on
the
phone
lines.
A
So
the
number
is
607-772-7028.
A
C
Okay
kelly:
when
are
you
planning
on
getting
started
with
this
with
the
sign
project.
A
No
and
we
have
two
attendees,
but
none
are
requesting
permission
to
speak.
C
At
this
point,
I'm
guessing
the
attendees
are
next
to
on
the
docket.
G
A
A
A
ground
sign,
I
can't
say
that
right
next
door
at
five
riverside
drive
that
that
sign
is
pretty
similar
in
size,
although
that's
technically
not
commercial,
but
it's
it's
pretty
similar
in
size.
It's
actually
almost
the
same.
Colors.
G
And
then
isn't
there
also
one
in
front
of
the
staff
building
as
well?
Southern
tier
8
project.
A
C
All
right,
while
you're
doing
that,
I'm
going
to,
can
I
make
a
motion
to
close
the
public
hearing
unless
we
hear
something
that
demands
me
to
reopen
it
that
sound
okay,
brian.
C
D
C
All
in
favor
aye,
okay:
now
we
need
to
move
ahead
to
the
seeker,
it's
short
seeker,
so
I
will
go
through
these
and
determine
whether
there's
anything's
got
a
moderate
or
higher
impact.
C
So
will
the
proposed
action
create
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulations,
and
we
need
to
determine?
Is
that
little?
Is
that
a
small
impact
or
a
moderate
impact?
I
would
categorize
that,
probably
as
a
small
impact
on
its
impact
or
not
jiving
with
zoning
regulations,
so
I'm
good
with
the
left-hand
check
mark
there.
Will
the
proposed
action
result
in
a
chance
in
use
or
intensity
abuse
of
the
land?
No,
no
change.
Will
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character
equality
of
the
existing
community?
C
C
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area?
No
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
affect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit,
viking
or
walkway
no
should
not
affect
that.
Will
the
proposed
action
cause
and
or
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
impact
existing
public
or
private
water
supplies
or
public
private
wastewater
treatment?
C
C
For
a
number
of
reasons,
which
we'll
probably
get
into
shortly,
that
there
are
a
number
of
similar
kind
of
situations
in
the
immediate
area,
so
I
would
say
small
impact:
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
natural
resources?
Wetlands,
water
bodies,
ground
water,
air
quality,
flora,
fauna?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage
problems?
No,
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
hazard
to
environmental
resources
or
human
health?
C
D
C
C
Is
it
an
undesirable
change
to
allow
both
of
these
signs
to
be
placed?
I
don't
believe
it.
D
C
C
So
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
going
to
help
people
find
the
location
the
ground
sign.
In
particular,
I
I
like
the
look
of
both
of
the
signs
they're,
both
pretty
nice.
Looking
signs,
I
agree.
C
H
C
C
Total
of
35
square
feet
is
that's
not
very
large.
I
mean
the
scheme
of
things.
That's
in
the
ballpark
of
the
one
across
the
street,
the
one
the
one
of
the
church
at
the
corner
of
front
and
riverside,
probably
a
little
bit
larger.
C
Probably
looked
like
it
was
closer
to
50
square
foot.
Yes,
so
I'm
I'm
pleased
with
that
and
it
needs
to
be
big
enough
to
see
you
have
to
see
it
driving
by.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
much
all
right
we
didn't
ask
the
applicant
if
they
considered
anything
smaller
but
between
10.
You
know
13
square
foot
sign
which
is
less
than
four
by
four
and
a
35
square
foot
ground
sign
you
go
much
smaller
and
people
are
going
to
miss
it
all
together
driving
by
I
agree.
C
So
I'm
I'm
satisfied
without
that
having
been
offered
by
the
applicant.
Is
it
a
substantial
request?
Yeah,
you
could
make
the
argument
that,
since
ground
signs
are
not
allowable
by
code,
that
it
could
be
substantial,
but
we
want
people
to
be
able
to
find
this
location
and
that's
the
that's
the
goal
here
to
find
the
place.
C
It's
a
pretty
massive
building
overall
and
too
small
of
a
sign
is
going
to
look.
Yes,
it's.
C
Adverse
impact
on
the
physical
or
environmental
conditions,
I
think
it'll,
be
a
positive
impact.
It'll
people
will
be
able
to
find
the
place.
Much
better.
I
mean
locals,
know
exactly
where
it
is
have
known
where
it
is
forever.
It
will
help
the
people
that
are
not
as
familiar
with
that
part
of
binghamton.
C
So
I'm
I'm
not
at
all
concerned
about
physical
or
environmental
effect,
and
was
it
self-created
yeah,
I'm
pretty
sure
it
was
I'm
sure
temple
concord
wants
to
be
identified,
and
that's
why
we're
here?
So
I,
but
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that.
Being
the
cause.
D
C
C
Can
I
get
a
second
second
all
in
favor,
aye,
aye
aye,
that's
three!
Four:
three:
in
favor
non-opposed,
your
request
for
variance,
has
been
approved
by
sony
board.
B
C
Thank
you
second
case
is
amicus
ny
llc
105
murray
street
area
variants
to
allow
an
eight-foot
wide
driveway,
where
nine
feet
wide
is
the
minimum
in
the
r3
multi-unit
dwelling
district
is
the
applicant
present.
E
Yeah
hi,
my
name
is
paul
mingarino,
I'm
representing
amicus.
I
work
for
amicus
properties.
I
Also,
here
is
kyle
weeks
from
janus
anderson,
architects,
we're
working
with
paul.
I
All
right
so
paul
has
a
property
on
murray
street
105
murray
street,
and
he
is
in
the
process
of
changing
the
youth.
It's
currently
a
single
family
home
two
stories.
Seven
bedrooms
he's
changing
it
to
congregate,
living
based
on
the
nature
of
their
business
and
renting
primarily
to
students,
and
so
we've
actually
been
in
front
of
the
planning
commission
and
received
approval
to
move
forward
with
this
project
conditional
of
going
in
front
of
you
folks,
because
there
is
something
on
there
is
one
element
existing
on
the
site.
I
That
is
not
allowing
us
to
be
compliant
with
all
of
the
requirements
for
congregate
living,
and
that
is
a
small
side
entrance
porch
that
cuts
into
the
existing
driveway.
So
for
about
12
feet,
we
have
a
reduced
width
down
to
8
feet,
which
is
below
code
minimum
for
any
use
in
this
re
in
this
zoning
district,
and
so
we
are
asking
for
an
area
variance,
and
I
guess
our
sort
of
argument
behind
that
is.
I
don't
know
if
tito
has
some
photos
of
what
the
exterior
of
the
property
is.
I
The
porch
is
original
to
the
building
and
it
does
have
a
very
particular
character
and
presence
that
we
feel
is
unique
to
the
house,
but
also
to
the
west
side
of
binghamton.
So
we
just
feel
that
you
know
removing
it
to
get
that
increased
width
would
sort
of
be
your
a
bit.
It
wouldn't
be
responsible
in
terms
of
you
know:
preserving
the
quality
of
the
architecture
character
in
that
neighborhood.
I
So
that's
where
we're
at
and
like
I
said,
we've
been
in
front
of
planning
commission
twice.
We
did
our
public
hearing
with
them
for
the
change
of
use.
It
was
approved
conditional
of
going
in
front
of
you
folks
for
that
driveway
condition
that
we're
dealing
with.
C
Okay,
that
all
makes
perfect
sense
now
and
just
full
disclosure.
I
own
a
property
like
right
across
the
street
from
there
108
murray
street,
so
I'm
very
feminine,
very
familiar.
I've
owned
that
since
1986.
C
G
Has
said
before
in
the
past,
is
this
side
porch
and
if
peter
were
to
show
you
a
picture
of
it
has
very
ornate
woodwork.
It
is
clearly
historic
part
of
the
structure
and
contributes
to
the
historic
nature
of
this
building.
It's
not
just
a
normal.
You
know
walk-up
porch,
it
looks
almost
like
it's
a
carriage
board
like
a
carriage
would
pull
up
to
it
at
one
point
and
you
would
stay
in
the
device.
C
To
be
totally
honest
with
the
applicant,
I've
at
times
been
very
disappointed
with
the
the
conduct
of
the
tenants
there.
As
far
as
their
impact
on
the
neighborhood
they're
they're
messy
they're,
very
messy
here.
E
We
we
do
agree
with
you
on
that,
and
since
we've
taken
over
we've
tried
to
control
these
a
little
bit
better.
With
more
of
a
stern
hand,
we've
been
passing
out
charges
for
leaving
things
a
mess
and
they're
starting
to
get
the
hint
that
wow
every
action
has
a
reaction.
Yeah.
C
E
How
we
tried
to
do
it
like
we're
trying
to
do
we
own
roughly
90
houses
on
the
west
side,
and
we
are
could
see-
I
know
dylan,
is
on
here
we're
pulling
permits,
redoing
front
porches
and
I'm
trying
to
hold
true
to
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
the
way
it
was
and
build
them
up
and
and
make
them
look,
and
maybe
we
can
change
some
of
the
the
the
frat
house
type
people
that
we
get
in
there
for
something
of
a
little
bit
higher
quality.
E
I
I
Some
of
what
paul
has
put
forward
in
front
of
planning-
commission
I
mean
just
for
your
information-
is
there's.
Definitely
especially
at
the
back
of
the
property
there's
proposed
some.
You
know
some
alterations
that
I
think
are
really
going
to
improve
the
the
quality
of
the
property
itself.
That
garage
in
the
back
that
you
see
is
going
to
be
removed
and
he's
putting
in
what
the
what
the
property
currently
lacks,
which
is
compliant
parking
in
the
back
and
he's
also,
you
know
increasing.
I
H
I
A
strategic
way
to
keep
that
one
tree,
but
also
thinking
I
mean
about
you,
know
I
think
pulse-
has
plans
to
put
in
some.
You
know
more
corrals
trash
storage
in
the
back,
and
I
think
he
has
some
plans
to
you
know,
especially
about
trash
pickup
and
and
how
that
can
be
handled
differently
at
his
properties.
E
Yeah
we've
been
hiring
out
for
the
garbage
pickup
because,
unfortunately,
the
system
that's
in
place
here
with
the
town
with
those
small
units,
the
wind
blows
garbage,
is
everywhere
every
every
day
and
the
blue
bags
you've
got
some
vagrants
going
through
the
trash
looking
for
cans
and
bottles,
it
doesn't
work
for
us.
I
don't
like
that.
I
don't
want
to
drive
down
the
street
and
see
any
of
that
stuff
and
I'm
sure
no
one
in
town
wants
to
see
that
either.
D
C
And
one
more,
I
just
have
one
more
comment
for
you
before
we
get
into
questions
from
the
board.
Since
you
do
own
a
lot
of
properties,
it
seemed
to
rent
a
lot
to
students.
I
don't
know
if
you've
reached
out
to
the
to
bu,
they
do
have
a
town
and
gown
kind
of
a
interface
to
work
with
folks,
like
yourselves
on
shared
goals.
E
E
I
E
And
I
want
to
give
you
good
pieces
of
property
to
look
at
say:
hey
it's
nice
that
dave,
I'm
telling
you
the
a
lot
of
the
properties
that
I
bought.
They
need
some
attention.
I
just
met
with
a
landscaper,
that's
coming
to
rip
out
shrubs
and
and
do
what
we
have
to
to
make
these
bring
back
the
character
of
these
houses
and
just
clean
them
up
fix
the
foundations,
put
new
porches
on
so
we're
we're
doing
a
stand-up
job
and
trying
to
just
move
forward
here.
Appreciating
help
that
anyone
can
help
us
with.
C
E
I've
got
to
go
before
the
historical,
because
it's
on
the
historical
area
that
I
have
to
check
with
that
that's
going
to
be
done.
While
we're
these
kids
move
out
in
august,
I'm
going
to
get
that
stuff
in
place
to
make
sure
that
we
can
we
comply
with
with
their
paperwork.
I
know
cheeto
had
told
me.
I
need
to
speak
to
someone
right.
C
I
have
a
driveway
question.
I
see
in
the
picture.
That's
attached,
the
cars
are
stacked
up,
but
it
looks
like
people
drive
up
the
neighbor's
driveway
and
cut
across.
How
does
that
work
out?.
E
They
they
you're
talking
about
where
that
little
bump
out
the
side
entrance
yeah.
H
C
E
C
I
E
E
H
C
Thank
you
very
much
stick
around
at
this
point.
I
would.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
this
is
a
secret
type.
Two
action,
no
further
action
environmental
review
is
required.
Can
I
get
a
second.
D
C
C
I
I
think
that
it
went
very
well.
They
were
you
know,
it's
a
two
meeting
process,
the
first
one.
I
think
they
were
just
very
helpful
in
terms
of
how
we
can
make
slight
adjustments
to
our
proposed
site
plan.
You
know
and
react
to
some
things
that
they
had
brought
up.
I
I
think
parking
was
the
biggest
concern
and
I
think
you
know
the
only
you
know
lingering
comment
was:
can
you
put
more
compliance
spots
in
and
I
think
our
you
know
we
just
we
did
sort
of
push
back
a
little
that
you
know
we're
trying
to
like.
I
said
tread
lightly
in
the
environmental
aspect.
Not
basically
just
pave
all
of
the
back
of
this
house
with
impervious
surface
and
not
rip
out
trees
that
are
existing,
so
we
really
felt
that
responsibly.
I
We
we
as
designers,
we
couldn't
really
see
a
way
of
of
placing
more
than
five
compliant
spots,
but,
as
paul
mentioned
you
know,
five
is
the
compliant
number.
But
if
you
really
look
at
the
real
estate,
if
in
in
in
a
case
like
a
you
know
a
winter
weather
advisory
or
something
you
can
really
fit
a
lot
more
folks.
I
In
there,
and
if
or
if
these,
if
these
tenants
have
guests,
it
seems
like
you
know,
there's
plenty
of
room
and
it's
not
going
to
make
murray
street,
which
is
a
tight
street
and
is
a
one-way
street.
You
know
more
congested
or
unpleasant
for
the
neighbors
and
they
did.
You
know.
I
think
it
was.
You
know,
however
many
it
was
like
six
to
one
or
something
in
turn
when
they
ruled
on
that.
A
A
It's
it's
about
eight
feet:
they're
not
actually
making
a
change.
They
just
needed
the
fact
that
they
were
changing
the
use
of
of
the
property
triggered
the
need
for
them
to
meet
the
code
and
it's
not
meeting
the
code.
So
that's
why
they
need
the
variance.
I
understand.
Okay,.
D
G
B
C
C
D
C
C
I
guess
in
essence,
like
a
pinch
point
sure
it's
a
little
undesirable,
but
with
the
proposed
change
in
parking
to
get
more
cars
safely
parked
off
the
street,
it's
going
to
be
a
transitory
thing,
and
it's
not
right
at
the
street.
C
D
C
C
So
I'm
not
sure
there
was
a
alternative
to
this.
To
do
it
and
do
it
right.
C
Yeah,
no,
I
agree.
Is
it
a
substantial
request
to
go
from
the
zoning
five
or
nine
feet
down
to
eight
feet,
one
foot
below
the
minimum?
C
C
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
have
an
adverse
impact
on
physical
or
environmental
environmental
conditions,
and
was
it
self-created
I
mean
not
really
the
the
building
was
built
that
way.
That's
the
way
the
driveway
was
established.
That's
that's
the
way
it's
existed
for
going
on
a
hundred
years.
Probably
so
I
don't
believe
it
was
self-created
that
the
request
seems
reasonable
anything.
C
D
C
Hi
very
good,
your
request
for
variance
is
approved.
Good
luck
going
forward.
I
hope
it
works
out
well,
for
you.
C
Thank
you
thanks
all
right.
Last
but
not
least
on
our
list
christine
and
david
king,
one
laser
bath
hairy
variants
to
allow
a
nine
foot
fence
where
six
feet
is
the
maximum
allowed
in
the
r1
single
unit.
Dwelling
district
is
the
applicant
present.
A
We
we
can
try
to
give
them
a
call.
We're
also
pretty
familiar
with
the
case.
Greg
is
here
and
he's
he's
the
one
that
first
sort
of
interfaced
with
them
through
through
the
fence.
Permit.
G
G
Okay
kelly,
my
understanding
is
that
the
neighbor
built
a
six
foot
fence
on
top
of
a
retaining
wall.
That's
three
feet:
yeah,
which
means
that
they
have
a
nine
foot
exposure.
They
want
to
build
a
nine
foot
fence
on
their
side
of
that
property
line,
and
it
sounds
like
they
want
to
build,
really
is
what
they
want
to
build
as
a
nine
foot
trellis,
so
they
can
put
plants
growing
up
to
cover
the
the.
G
C
A
So
far
we
haven't
been
able
to
reach
the
applicant
but,
like
brian
said,
the
neighbor's
fence
is
what's
shown
here
in
the
pictures.
Can
you
see
the
pictures.
B
H
H
C
A
Still
haven't
been
able
to
reach
the
applicant,
so
it's
up
to
you
all
who,
how
you'd
like
to
proceed,
we
did
get.
We
did
advertise
the
public
hearing,
obviously,
and
we
did
get
comments
from
one
neighbor.
A
No
objection
I
can
give
the
name
and
stuff
when
we
open
the
public
hearing
but
yeah.
Just
the
the
the
neighbor
is
from
an
abundant
property
and
he
agrees
with
the
concept
of
of
covering
the
wall
with
a
trellis.
A
A
We
kind
of
do
from
when
they
apply
for
their
friends
permit
to
put
their
fence
up.
I
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
they
have
a
problem
with
it
yeah.
They
know
what
the
applicant's
plans
are
and
they
they
haven't
commented.
C
G
G
D
G
C
C
I
believe
we're
going
to
proceed
with
our
discussion.
We've
looked
at
the
committee.
The
zoning
board
has
looked
at
the
facts
of
the
case,
the
pictures
submitted
and,
if
we're
going
to
proceed,
I
think
we
need
to
take
note
and
make
a
motion
that
this
is
a
secret
type.
2
action,
no
further
environmental
review
will
be
required.
Could
I
get
a
second
for
that.
D
C
Okay,
then,
at
this
point,
let's
open
for
public
hearing
one
laser
path
for
discussion
of
their
fence:
tito,
if
you'd
be
so
kind
as
to
read
that
number
for
us
again.
A
G
A
C
And
tito
for
your
information,
we
did
get
notice
on
that
murray
street
project
in
a
timely
fashion.
Oh
good,
so
we
were
notified.
A
C
A
Those
get
those
sometimes
disappear,
but.
C
C
You
you
would
think
that
you
know
some
of
the
people
I
think
in
the
in
the
property
we
were
talking
about.
One
of
them
was
a
harper's
ferry
crew
chief.
I
think,
and
you
would
think
they'd
be
a
responsible
group.
C
I
think
our
minute
has
come
and
gone,
so
I
would
make
a
motion
that
we
closed
the
public
hearing
for
one
playthrough
pad
cutting.
I
have
a
second
please.
Second,
all
in
favor
all
right,
hi,
all
right.
So
now
we
can
move
on
to
the
criteria.
C
C
I
really
don't
think
so.
I
mean
it's
gonna.
It's
gonna
do
two
things:
it's
gonna
cover
up
that
fence
and
make
it
look
a
lot
more
inviting
it's.
It's
gonna
make
it
less
kind
of
imposing
it's
nicely
preserved
and
I
think
it'll
be
protected
somewhat
by
the
by
the
trellis
without
having
the
growing
matter.
C
C
C
C
So
it
is,
I
mean
in
numbers
and
percentages,
it
might
be
substantial,
but
I
think
for
just
this
situation,
I
don't
think
it's
substantial.
C
Is
it
going
to
have
an
adverse
impact
on
physical
or
environmental
environmental
conditions?
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
it'll
look
very.
I
think
it
should
look
very
good.
It'll
it'll,
look
better
from
the
street
from
both
properties.
I
believe-
and
I
mean
it's
possible-
you
could
get
a
little
green
effect
from
the
climbing.
C
Whatever
plants
are
coming
up
the
on
the
trellis,
so
it
could
actually
improve
the
ability
to
uptake
water
there
a
bit
and
was
it
self-created
sure
I
believe
it
was,
but
I
think
it's
self-created
in
the
hopes
that
you
make
things
look
a
little
bit
better.
So
I'm
I'm
not
upset
with
that.
C
I
could
see
that
point.
It
is
matching
an
an
existing
approved
meeting
the
zoning
requirements
fence.
That's
right,
adjacent
to
them.
That
is
the
sixth
of
the
fence,
so
they're
addressing
a
six-foot
fence
with
what
in
essence
should
be
a
six-foot
fence,
but
just
due
to
conditions.
So
it
is
conditions
beyond
their
control
somewhat.
Yes,
so
it
may
not
be
self-created
good
point.
C
D
C
Okay,
then,
that
one
is
approved,
if
you
guys
could
let
them
know
at
your
next
day's
business
that'd
be
great.
G
The
only
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
that
new
york
state
has
started
to
adopt
some
laws
in
regards
to
remote
meetings.
I
believe
that
the.
G
Prevailing
wisdom
is
that,
under
that
wall,
to
continue
going
the
way
we
are,
we
will
probably
have
to
go
back
to
in-person
meetings,
which
probably
will
make
some
of
you
very
happy.
Some
of
yours,
maybe
not.
B
G
But
they?
What?
What
they're
saying
is
that
for
a
board
to
conduct
business?
You
have
to
adopt
rules
that
would
allow
someone
to
participate
and
it
has
to
be
like
special
circumstances
which
are
generally
someone's
disability,
illness,
caregiving
for
a
family
member
or
something
unexpected
that
required
you
to
be
away
now.
They
say
it's
unexpected,
but
it
has
to
be
at
least
a
week
in
advance,
because
otherwise
you
couldn't
follow
the
notice
requirements
that
are
if
you
go
remote,
because
you
have
to
open
it
to
the
public.
G
At
that
point,
if
you
go
back
to
in
person,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
on
zoom
anymore.
It
can
be
televised,
not
televised,
but
stream,
but
it
doesn't
have.
The
public
is
not
to
participate.
The
other
thing
that'll
probably
be
big,
for
you
is
your
meeting
almost
always
coincides
with
the
city
council
yeah
for
safety
purposes.
Council
is
usually
meeting
in
the
chambers
these
days,
because
the
caucus
room
is
too
tight,
too
small,
too
air
restricted.
It's.
C
G
G
G
C
Okay,
john
and
ernie.
How
do
tuesdays
look
for
you
going
forward.
C
That's
why
we
were
tuesdays
originally
yeah,
but
then
we
got
into
a
situation
where
we
were
having
delays
because
of
the
schedule
and
trying
to
get
a
monday
so
that
we
didn't
miss
them
the
whole
cycle
of
the
month.
But
we
can
look
at
tuesday.
I
probably
just
need
to
check,
with
marina
and
mario
to
make
sure
it's
going
to
work
for
them.
A
I
apologize,
I
was
not
paying
attention.
Somebody
was
emailing
me
about
the
work
session.
That's
that
just
started,
but
okay,
I
will
catch
up
with
you
tomorrow.
G
Him
is
that,
because
of
the
work
session
being
on
mondays,
we
may
have
to
take
the
zoning
board
to
tuesday
nights
like
it
used
to
be:
oh,
okay,
yeah,
that's
that
should
be
fine,
probably
not
next
month,
but
the
month
after.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
people
were
aware
of
and
couldn't
make
their
schedules
that
they
weren't
totally
caught
off
guard.