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B
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
welcome
to
the
June
2023
zoning
board
of
appeals
meeting.
My
name
is
Kelly
Donovan
I'm,
the
chair
of
this
board,
for
those
of
you
who've,
never
attended.
One
of
our
meetings.
I'll
quickly
explain
how
the
meetings
conducted
first,
we'll
ask
the
applicant
to
come
to
the
microphone
state.
Your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
describe
your
project
or
request
for
variance
floor
will
then
be
open
for
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
in
favor
or
against
the
proposed
project.
B
Once
everyone's
had
an
opportunity
to
speak,
the
public
hearing
will
be
officially
closed
and
no
new
testimony
will
be
taken
after
public
hearings
have
been
held.
The
board
will
deliberate
and
make
a
decision
on
each
case.
Public
is
welcome
to
stay
through
deliberations,
but
again
no
public
input
is
permitted
for
those
applicants
who
wish
not
to
stay
through
deliberations,
planning
department
staff
will
be
available
tomorrow.
With
the
board's
decisions.
B
Zoning
board
of
appeals
is
a
five-member
board.
Tonight
we
have
four
members
present
constituting
a
quorum.
I
will
now
call
the
roll
Ms
messinetti
is
excused
Mr
matzo
president
Ms
Lucci,
Mr,
Landers
and
Mr
Donovan
is
present.
Did
we
have?
Did
we
have
minutes
from
the
last
one
or
in
San
Diego
material
s?
Were
there
any
minutes.
B
B
Okay,
well,
the
first
applicant
of
the
evening
is
Thomas
Grosso
3133
Pine
Street
area
variances
for
a
22
foot,
Drive
aisle,
where
24
is
required
in
association
with
the
ancillary
parking
lot.
No
five
foot
landscape
bumper
on
the
sides
of
an
ancillary
parking
lot
and
for
a
zero
feet
of
commercial
space
on
a
portion
of
the
ground
floor
of
a
mixed-use
building
where
30
feet
is
required
in
the
C4
neighborhood
commercial
District.
A
D
Hi
good
evening
my
name
is
Thomas
Grosso
I'm,
the
applicant
for
31.5
and
33
Pine
Street.
My
address
is
14
Priory
Court
Melville
New
York.
So,
as
you
had
mentioned,
we
are
applying
for
three
variances.
D
This
project
involves
a
complete
Rehabilitation
of
both
31
Pine
Street
and
the
building
33
Pine
Street
both
have
been
neglected
for
a
number
of
years.
If
you
drive
by
it's
in
a
extremely
poor
State,
a
lot
of
garbage
on
the
street
on
the
in
the
parking
lot
Windows
missing.
Roof
tile
is
missing
Etc,
so
the
first
variants
that
we're
applying
for
is
for
our
driveway
with.
D
So
there
was
a
mistake
that
was
made
on
the
application
where
it
was
put
22
feet.
We
actually
only
have
17
feet
between
the
the
ends
of
both
parking
spaces
on
either
side,
so
we
have
52
feet
total
of
parking
lot
with
and
we
have
17
in
between
which
would
be
sufficient
for
one
drive
aisle.
D
The
second
is
a
five
foot
buffer
on
the
west
side
of
the
lot.
There's
no
changes
that
we're
looking
to
make.
This
is
where
the
existing
parking
lot
ends.
It
kind
of
butts
up
to
the
property
line
and
the
third
is
the
30-foot
commercial
space
from
the
street.
So
a
few
months
ago,
this
property
was
in
R1
R2
District,
before
it
was
rezoned
being
that
it
was
rezoned
to
commercial.
In
order
for
that
living
space
to
be
legal
that
exists
now,
we
would
need
the
variants.
C
That
area
was
rezoned,
that's
the
stadium,
District
Master
Plan
area,
and
that
plan
had
recommendations
for
rezoning
a
different
parts
of
the
district
and
that
intersection
was
recommended
to
be
rezone
commercial
because
Red,
Barn's
computers
is
there
the
old
tranquil
bistros
there.
There
are
commercial
businesses
on
at
that
intersection
that
were
his
own
residential,
and
so
they
couldn't
expand
or
have
signage,
and
things
like
that,
so
that
was
corrected
as
by
resulting
and
and
his
property
was
included
in
that
intersection.
D
C
I'll
just
to
kill
some
time
here
and
to
inform
you
guys
this
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
okay
at
last
week's
meeting,
subject
to
the
zoning
board
approving
the
variances,
so
the
site
plan
portion
of
it
aside
from
the
variances
and
the
uses
of
the
buildings,
have
already
been
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
It's
just
pending.
The
variance
is.
B
And
I'm,
assuming
that
the
paperwork
attached
is
what
I
need
to
go
through
and
that
I
need
to
make
a
motion
that
we're
the
lead
on
secret
yep.
C
B
A
B
All
right
it
is
now
5
25.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
open
the
public
hearing
for
3133
Pine
Street
for
the
area
variance.
It's
can
I
get
a
second
all
in
favor
aye.
All
righty,
then,
is
there.
Anyone
present
do
I
do
that
first
or
no
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
secret
first.
B
I
will
now
go
through
the
secret
criteria
and
what
I'm
looking
for
is
anything
that's
more
than
a
than
not
or
a
small
impact.
Due
to
that
item,
will
the
proposed
action
create
a
material
conflict
with
an
adopted
use,
land
use
plan
or
zoning
regulations
this
one
they
did
not
check
for
us.
So
this
is
one
we
need
to
consider.
I
would
argue
that
it's
a
small
impact
in
in
not
complying
with
the
zoning
regulations
rather
than
a
moderate
to
large
impact.
B
Anybody,
yeah
I,
think
that's
what
we
needed
to
consider
will
the
proposed
action
result
in
a
change
in
the
user
intensity
of
use
of
land,
no
it'll
be
the
same
intensity.
Well,
the
proposed
action
impair
the
character,
equality
of
the
existing
community.
No,
it
will
improve
the
character
quality
of
the
community.
Will
the
proposed
action
have
an
impact
on
the
environmental
characteristics
that
cause
the
establishment
of
a
critical
environmental
area
should
not
affect
that?
B
Well,
the
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
in
the
existing
level
of
traffic
or
effect
existing
infrastructure
for
mass
transit
biking
or
walkway.
No
one
of
the
proposed
action
caused
an
increase
in
the
use
of
energy,
and
it
fails
to
incorporate
reasonably
available
energy
conservation
or
renewable
energy
opportunities
should
not
affect
that.
B
Well,
the
proposed
Action
Impact,
existing
public
or
private
Water,
Supplies
or
public
private
wastewater
treatment
utilities
should
not
affect
that
proposed
action,
impair
the
character
or
quality
of
important
historic,
archaeological,
architectural
or
aesthetic
resources.
No
Will's
proposed
action
result
in
an
adverse
change
to
Natural,
Resources,
Wetlands,
water
bodies,
groundwater
air
quality,
flora
and
fauna.
No
well.
The
proposed
action
result
in
an
increase
in
the
potential
for
erosion,
flooding
or
drainage.
B
B
I
have
seen
no
further
people
enter
the
all,
so
I
would
like
to
move
to
close
the
public
hearing
for
3133
Pine
Street
can
I
get
a
second
second,
all
in
favor
all.
C
Right
all
right,
I'm,
sorry,
we
did
get
239
comments
for
this.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
I
can
sort
of
summarize
them.
C
They
did
not
identify
any
significant
county-wide
impacts.
However,
they
had
some
comments.
C
City
of
Binghamton
should
consider
the
recent
efforts
to
rezone
and
redevelop
the
stadium,
District
and
the
precedent
this
project
was
set
for
projects
located
in
the
stadium,
District
C1,
C2,
C3
and
C4
commercial
zoning
districts
across
the
city.
If
the
area
variance
for
living
space
within
30
feet
of
a
street
is
approved,
concerns
expressed
in
our
previous
comments
pertain
to
the
large
number
of
student
rentals
in
downtown
Binghamton
number
of
bedrooms
per
unit.
In
compliance
with
the
comprehensive
plans.
Recommendation
regarding
floor
plans
suitable
for
a
variety
of
end.
Users
are
also
pertinent.
A
B
Anyway,
that's
from
Broome
County,
this.
B
So
the
the
major
point
there
is,
they
had
no
comment
regarding
the
application
for
the
for
the
variances
other
than
General
comments
on
how
we
do
our
planning
of
things
I
would
say
which
is
their
normal.
A
B
That's
become
almost
their
standard
response
is
to
add
those
that
kind
of
verbiage.
I
do
appreciate
their
input,
though
all
right
so
essentially
a
negative
or
a
non-issue
from
the
county.
So
now
we
can
go
into
the
criteria
for
an
area
of
variance
for
the
three
requested
variances
and.
B
D
And
it's
not
going
to
be
an
active
driveway,
it's
residential!
So
it's
not
like
it's
a
business
driver
where
you
have
cars
constantly
coming
in
and
out
and
in
most
cases
you
don't
have
one
bedroom
one
car
per
bedroom,
so
it
could
be
very
limited
parking,
that's
actually
utilized
in
the
lot.
A
B
A
that's
a
healthy
number
of
parking
spaces
there,
okay,
so
the
criteria
for
area
variance
is,
is
an
undesirable
change.
Is
there
a
reasonable
alternative?
Is
a
substantial
request?
Is
it
an
adverse
impact
on
the
physical
and
environmental
conditions
and
whether
or
not
it
was
self-created.
B
Let's
go
through
the
undesirable
change
and
talk
about
you
want
to
talk
about
each
one
of
them
of
one
after
the
other.
Whatever
you
want
to
just
go
through
the
zero
split
of
non-residential
space
for
students.
Do
that
one?
A
B
Yeah
this
is
a
and,
as
we
mentioned
already,
this
area
was
recently
rezoned.
It
was
residential
you're
still
going
to
have
an
awful
lot
of
residential
in
this
general
area.
I,
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
out
of
place
if
the
project
met
with
that
criteria.
If
that
was
the
type
of
project
that
would
be
great,
but
I
don't
have
a
huge
problem
with
with
this.
A
B
That
that
part
of
the
zoning
of
it's
one
of
the
receipt
board,
I
just
think
yep.
B
B
I'm
sure
there
are
properties
in
this
Zone,
otherwise
City
I
mean,
but
it
just
does
not
seem
to
fit
this
project
well,
so,
on
the
reasonable
alternative,
I'm,
not
sure
there
was.
B
Is
it
a
substantial
request
to
on
the
Zero
beat
of
non-residential
space
I
think
it
will
be
substantial
of
us
to
hold
yeah
so
I?
Don't
think
it's
necessarily
a
substantial
request:
will
it
cause
an
adverse
impact
on
the
physical
or
environment
environmental
conditions?
B
I?
Think
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
security
and
I'm
pretty
sure
the
applicant
has
considered
residential
security
for
ground
floor
residents
and
how
to
protect
them
from
the
street
correct?
Okay,
that's
the
point
of
of
this
restriction.
B
And
whether
or
not
it
was
self-created
sure
but
I'm
I'm
happy
that
they
have
an
applicant
willing
to
take
on
this
property
and
bring
some
life
back
into
that
area.
Agree!
Okay,
let's
move
on!
Look.
You
want
to
go
to
the
17
foot
wide
Center
Drive
aisle.
Let's
do
that
is
an
undesirable
change
to
grant
that
as
opposed
to
24
is
the
minimum.
B
A
B
Was
there
a
reasonable
alternative
to
this
I
think
to
get
the
number
of
parking
spots
in
the
in
the
area
that
we're
talking
about
I?
Think
that's
why
we
ended
up
at
17
feet
rather
than
and
if
you
could
count
on
everybody
having
you
know
compact
cars,
maybe
you
could
could
have
adjusted
that,
but.
B
Is
it
a
substantial
request
to
go
from
25
to
17.,
knowing
that
it's
for
residential
I,
I,
really
I'm,
not
that
as
concerned,
if
it
were
for
retail
yeah,
is
an
adverse
impact
on
the
physical
and
environmental
conditions
of
the
property
or
the
over
the
neighborhood?
No
and
again
was
it
self-created
I
think,
to
some
extent
that
yes,
but
yeah
all
right
the
zero
feet
of
landscape
buffer
on
the
side
of
the
property
lines
where
a
five
foot
wide
buffer
is
required,
the
parking
spaces
don't
go
right
up
to
the
line.
D
They
go
relatively
close
to
the
property
line.
There
is
greenery
in
front
of
that,
but
it's
on
the
neighboring
property.
So
it's
not
like
it's
going
from
asphalt
to
Asphalt.
We
are
doing
five
feet
of
greenery
on
Pine
Street
into
the
lot.
It's
just
on
the
west
side
of
the
parking
lot.
Okay
and
that's
the
way
it
is
today.
This
is
this
is
the
existing
lot
that
exists
now.
B
I
mean
we
always
like
to
see
as
much
green
space
as
we
can,
but
it
it
does
not
seem
like
it's
going
to
be
logistically
gospel
here,
no
I
mean
based
on
what
we're
looking
at
with
the
existing,
and
there
is
no
green
space
other
than
weeds
in
any
of
the
pictures
that
I
see
so
any
amount
of
Green,
Space,
you're
going
to
add,
is
going
to
be
appreciated,
but
yeah
we
would
always
like
to
see
more
and
if
you
can
in
the
future
add
any
more
it'll
be
welcome.
B
So
is
the
is
the
zero
feet
of
landscape
up
or
an
undesirable
change
from
requirement
yeah?
It
is
but
I
I'm
not
sure
it's
avoidable.
B
Doesn't
exist
at
all.
Is
there
a
reasonable
alternative
not
to
fit
everything
into
two
small
parcels
is
a
substantial
request.
Five
feet
of
landscape
buffer
I
mean
it's
a
relatively
small
patch
of
land
to
start
with,
so
not
having
it
I,
don't
think
it's
it's
not
that
substantial.
A
B
It
going
to
have
an
adverse
impact
on
the
physical
and
environmental
conditions,
along
with
the
scope
of
the
project,
I,
don't
believe
so
and
again
we're
back
to
self-created,
which
it
which
it
is
any
other
discussion
on
this
application.
A
A
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
area
of
variance
for
the
17
foot,
Drive
aisle
where
24
foot
is
required,
an
association
would
be,
and
some
really
or,
however,
you
pronounce
it
parking
lot.
No
five
foot
landscape
buffer
on
the
side
of
the
parking
lot
and
zero
of
the
commercial
space
on
the
portion
of
the
ground
floor
of
mixed-use
building
where
30
foot
is
required
in
a
c4
neighborhood
commercial
District,.
B
A
B
E
Name
is
Beth
bringley.
This
is
my
husband,
Jordan
Verano,
Robert
bringsley
is
the
my
dad
he's
the
engineer
for
the
project.
We
live
at
2
Crestmont
Road
in
the
west
side
of
Binghamton
13905.
E
Sure
so
we'd
like
to
put
an
addition
on
our
home.
It
is
currently
a
three
bedroom.
One
bathroom
we'd
like
to
put
a
bathroom
on
the
bottom
floor
and
then,
in
addition
to
that
kind
of,
necessitates,
just
moving
the
house
back
a
little
bit
10
feet
to
be
exact
and
then
so
then
the
kitchen
would
be
extended
and
also
allowing
for
a
small
office
in
the
back
corner
for
Jordan.
He
works
from
home
now.
E
In
order
to
do
that,
the
plans
are
drawn,
so
the
garage
will
come
slightly
forward
to
make
some
space
for
the
mudroom
bathroom
in
the
back.
We
have
bigger
drawings.
If
anybody
needs
them
of
the
project,
the
garage
also
becomes
involved.
So
then
the
Garage
would
move
forward.
Currently,
our
garage
is
not
big
enough
to
fit
a
car
in
and
actually
open
the
door
or
use
it
for
anything.
E
Besides
a
lot
more
so
Robert
was
thinking,
make
the
garage
a
foot
wider,
which
is
why
the
variance
is
necessitated
because
right
now
the
setback
is
five
feet
three
inches,
but
the
setback
would
become
four
foot
three
inches.
One
five
is
the
NASA's
Ferry
requirement.
We
spoke
to
our
neighbors
on
the
left
side
of
the
house.
The
north
side
of
the
house
they're
very
happy
whether
we
spoke
to
other
next
door.
Neighbors
too,
everybody
is,
is
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
project
happen.
B
E
Yeah,
so
the
garage
there'll
be
an
entry
into
the
garage,
so
you
can
get
there
from
the
yard
and
then
there'll
be
an
entry
into
the
house
into
the
mud
room
from
the
garage.
Currently
there
isn't
an
entry
in
and
out
of
the
house
from
the
garage
so.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
If
we
have
any
questions,
we'll
I'll
learn
if
you're
going
to
stick
around
you're
free
to
stay
or
go
whatever
you'd
like
it'll.
Take
us
a
few
minutes
to
go
through
the
and
go
through
the
process,
but
you're
welcome
to
stick
around.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
then,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
open
the
public
hearing
for
two
Crestmont
Road
could
I
get
a
second.
A
B
Is
to
the
motion
that
this
is
a
type.
C
B
B
C
B
B
All
right,
I
see
now
people
running
for
the
microphone.
So
let's
go
through
the
criteria.
A
A
B
Is
it
an
undesirable
change?
One
foot
of
I
would
argue
that
no
one
will
notice
once
it's
done.
B
Yeah,
yeah
yeah
and
if
you
get
any
more
use
out
of
it,
it'll
be
a
and
it'll
be
a
desirable
change.
So
I
have
no
problem
with
that
part
of
it.
Was
there
a
reasonable
alternative,
I'm
I,
love,
construction
projects
and
I
think
this
is
in
in
the
confines,
relatively
small
confines
here
that
it's
making
a
good
use
of
the
space
available.
B
A
reasonable
alternative,
no
I
think
they
got
to
a
good
solution
here
and
involve
their
neighbors
in
the
decision-making
process,
which
is
a
great
thing
to
do.
I
wish
I
wish.
We
could
tell
everybody
in
the
city
to
do
that,
because
not
everybody
does
that
and
then
they
end
up
here,
because
they've
called
these
guys.
A
B
A
B
Go
up
to
over
there.
The
the
lions
are
suggestions
at
best
on
the
west
side.
For
sure
no,
it's
not
substantial.
Will
it
cause
an
adverse
impact
on
the
physical
or
environmental
conditions?
No,
no
it'll
have
no
effect
at
all
and
was
itself
created.
Sure,
okay,
yeah,
I
I
believe
it
was
yeah.
Not
all
are
are
self-reading
but
I,
I'm,
I'm,
happy.
B
Would
you
care
to
make
a
yeah
I'll
make.
A
B
All
right
do
we
have
any
other.
B
Nothing
motion
to
adjourn
them.