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November 13, 2017 - City Council Special Session
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B
A
You
very
much
and
under
the
return
to
open
special
session,
we
have
items
8,
9
and
10
items.
Items
excuse
me
items
item.
8
is
consideration
of
the
2017
tax
levy,
estimate
for
the
bloomington
public
library,
and
we
have
a
brief
presentation:
approximately
5
minutes
by
Jean
Hamilton
who's,
the
director
and
then
about
15
minute
council,
discussion
and
I'm
glad
to
see
so
many
people
from
the
Bloomington
Public
Library
board
in
the
audience,
including
the
chair,
come
if
you
want
to
come
forward
to
okay,
Thank,
You
Jean
and
thank
you
Alex
go
ahead.
Thank.
D
This
budget
reflects
those
cost-saving
measures
again
in
all
budget
areas,
allowing
for
the
entire
requested
budget
increase
of
one
hundred
forty
thousand
four
hundred
ninety
three
dollars
to
be
transferred
to
the
capital
fund
and
if
a
commitment
is
made
to
move
forward
with
the
expansion
projects
that
we
have
talked
about,
those
funds
would
be
used
for
further
develop
design
plans.
If
a
commitment
was
not
made
to
move
forward
with
an
expansion
project,
there
are
still
repairs
and
renovation
replacements
that
need
to
be
happen
in
our
existing
building.
D
E
Evenin
everyone
so
I
just
want
to
give
you
some
historical
perspective
from
the
board,
since
we
look
at
this
a
long
term
looking
at
the
strategy.
So
looking
back
so
over
the
past
ten
years,
the
library
has
been
tasked
by
the
City
Council
and
also
by
the
library
board,
to
look
at
our
expansion
and
exploring
these
options
of
expansion
specifically
also
running
a
lean
budget.
E
Specifically,
the
library
continues
to
do
more,
with
less
and
you'll
hear
that
repeated
throughout
this
and
and
specifically
when
you
look
at
the
documents
that
we
presented,
you
look
at
Bloomington,
Public
Library,
having
one
of
the
lowest
tax
rates
of
peer
communities
and
pure
libraries
in
central
Illinois,
but
on
top
of
that
we
still
continue
to
outperform
almost
all
of
them
in
regards
to
circulation
and
other
metrics
through
there.
So,
there's
that
idea
of
doing
more
with
us
the
other
piece
of
this,
unlike
schools,
community
colleges
is
you.
E
The
city
itself
were
mainly
overwhelmingly
supported
only
by
property
taxes,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
that
as
their
only
source
of
revenue-
and
you
look
at
your
charts
that
you
have
in
front
of
you-
we've
virtually
had
a
flat
tax
over
that
time,
but
we
still
made
those
hard
choices
to
cut
our
own
budget
over
the
past
ten
years
and
that's
been
at
the
expense
of
growing
programs
and
also
deferring
maintenance.
The
other
piece-
and
you
saw
this
in
a
quote
that
we
included
in
there
that
there's
empirical
evidence
that
usage
tracks
investment.
E
If
libraries
receive
more
public
funds,
more
people
use
them,
and
if
governments
invest
less,
it's
library
says
they
have
since
2009
fewer
people
visit
them,
though
the
drop-in
visits,
from
disinvestment,
isn't
as
strong
as
the
rise
from
investment
would
be.
Lastly,
I'd
just
like
to
say:
I
couldn't
be
prouder
of
the
library
staff
and
the
library
board,
specifically
of
what
they've
done
over
the
past
several
years
and
their
dedication
to
running
an
efficient
operating
budget
and
again
doing
more
with
less,
but
this
model
isn't
sustainable
of
what
we
have.
E
Currently
our
goal
for
all
of
you
is
in
proper
preparation
for
your
budget
discussions
in
2018.
We
will
use
these
funds
to
provide
you
a
comprehensive
site
plan,
so
you
can
evaluate
all
your
options
strategically.
I
think
that's
really
important
in
regards
to
what
I
have
seen
from
your
City
Council
meetings,
but
also
some
of
the
discussions
you've
been
having
at
the
budget
enlarged.
E
Lastly,
libraries
have
always
been
a
place
where
families,
students,
adult
learners,
can
invest
in
themselves.
What
this
proposal
you
have
three
library
boards
who
support
and
believe
this
is
the
time
for
you
to
support
the
library
and
invest
in
the
library
and
in
turn,
invest
in
our
community
in
our
community's
future.
So
thank
you.
F
Alex,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
in
the
meeting
that
we
had
and
I
continue
to
get
a
lot
of
inquiries
about.
What's
going
on
with
the
library
expansion
and
since
since
it
does
kind
of
have
some
contact
or
some
touch
point
with
the
budget
can
can
you
I
guess
I
want
to
be
very
clear
on
what
the
direction
of
the
library
board
is
given
our
meeting
back
in
June
in
terms
of
expansion,
so
McCann,
can
you
give
everybody?
F
E
You
bringing
that
up.
So,
as
you
all
recall,
we
had
our
joint
meeting
in
June
where
we
talked
about
our
plans
so
far
and
our
extensive
work
that
we've
been
doing
here,
our
our
feedback
from
all
of
you
is
the
Midori.
You
feel
that
we
should
be
expanding
and
we
should
look
at
those
expansion
plans
and
we've
been
looking
at
those
at
our
current
location.
There's
ask
so.
A
Just
to
clarify,
though,
that
that
was
before
the
downtown
fast
force
began
its
its
analysis.
That's
correct
and
I.
Don't
I
don't
mean
to
put
you
in
the
middle
of
something
that's
different,
but
that's
obviously
something
where
they
were
gathering
information
that
was
consistent
with
our
comprehensive
plan,
that's
consistent
with
our
downtown
plan
and
they
came
up
with
an
option
as
one
of
many
other
options.
So.
E
There's
a
lot
of
outstanding
items
that
we
feel
from
the
library
board
and
library
staff
that
we
would
like
clear
direction
from
the
City
Council
moving
forward.
One
of
them
could
be
the
recommendations
from
the
task
force
that
all
of
you
will
eventually
review
and
evaluate,
but
even
more
important
would
be
the
capital
improvement
project
plan,
the
CIP
and
what
you
plan
to
do
with
that.
Also,
your
budget
discussions
that
are
coming
up
next
year,
I
think
with
all
the
those
things
it
would
be
to
our
benefit
your
benefit.
E
If
we
had
those
items
all
holistically
to
look
at
strategically,
how
do
all
these
things
fit
into
place?
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
more
exploration
that
has
to
happen
not
only
with
those
documents
but
then
also
what
we
would
like
to
provide
to
you
and,
as
we've
discussed,
we
want
to
bring
you
that
comprehensive
site
plan
and
that's
what
the
lobby
today
is
going
to
accomplish
for
all
of
you.
G
So
I
really
do
think
we
need
to
get
some
more
clarity
about
where
this
expansion
is
taking
place
and
what
the
the
tax
levy
increase
would
go
towards
and
obviously
I
live.
My
life
as
the
librarian
I
get
the
strong
return
on
investment
that
we
get
out
of
our
public
library.
But
I
do
hear
a
lot
of
confusion
from
the
population
at
large
about
where
the
library
is
going
to
be.
We've
spent
a
lot
of
money.
You
have
spent
a
lot
of
money
on
a
site
plan
at
your
existing
site.
G
G
Explain
that
we
will
give
you
more
money,
but
we're
not
really
sure
where
you're
going
to
be
I
guess
is
what
it
comes
down
to.
So
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
some
clarification
on
that
and
I
I
don't
want
to
take
away
from
the
downtown
task
force.
I
completely
understand
the
concept
of
the
catalyst
project,
but
it
kind
of
feels
like
the
libraries
and
sort
of
put
in
the
middle
of
this
and
I
think
that
personally
I
think
that's
unfair
to
the
library.
G
A
B
H
That
is
one
aspect
of
the
task
force
report
and
I
think
that
we
look
forward
to
discussing
that
and
explaining
some
of
the
rationale
there
and
whether
or
not
council
will
choose
to
you
know,
take
that
in
another
direction
and
explore
further
is
something
obviously
that
is
entirely
up
to
the
council
and
I.
Think
even
the
task
force
understands
that
as
a
right
now,
the
library
is
moving
forward
in
a
specific
direction
based
on
prior
guidance,
and
we
wouldn't
expect
them
to
change
direction.
If
that
makes
sense
and.
A
A
E
You
know
one
thing
I
bring
up
is
we've
had
a
lot
of
task
forces,
the
the
library
has
had
a
library,
expansion
task
force
that
Johnny
I,
think
you
you're
well
aware
of,
and
and
those
are
recommendations
and
they're
exploratory
well
we'd
like
to
do
is
move
forward
to
that.
We
feel
like
we're
at
the
11th
hour
with
this
we've
been
working
on
this
for
a
very
long
time.
E
So
you
can
evaluate
that
holistically
and
it's
not
piecemeal
as
we
go
through
there
and
I
think
again
we're
at
the
very
end
of
this.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
you
have
the
community
overall
best
interests
in
mind
when
we
think
of
how
do
we
get
to
the
next
generation
that
next
piece
of
something
that
could
be
really
really
important
and
it
could
be
a
catalyst
for
our
whole
community.
It
just
not
not
just
on
all
the.
I
I
agree
with
you,
and
the
library
has
been
woefully
underfunded
for
years,
and
I
really
think
that
you
actually
do
need
more
of
a
tax
piece,
but
until
this
whole
deal
with
moving
the
library
downtown
is
laid
to
rest.
I
will
not
vote
for
raising
another
penny
for
it,
because,
quite
frankly,
from
what
I've
heard
from
all
of
my
constituents
moving,
the
library
downtown
has
all
the
appeal
that
the
Coliseum
had
and
I'm
not
going
to
touch
that
one.
So
thank
you.
J
Thank
you
and
thank
you
Alex
and
uni
for
bringing
this
forward
and
having
this
conversation,
I.
Don't
think
anybody
really
would
doubt
the
value
of
libraries
and
when
you
can't
get
a
job
now
without
having
access
to
a
computer,
and
it's
definitely
something
that
this
community
needs.
I
just
want
to
highlight
something
that
we've
talked
before
about
public.
J
For
jobs,
it's
a
life
so
that
we
can
clarify
why
that
matters,
oh
yeah,
no
doubt
and
I,
think
it's
it's
a
critical
institution
nobody's
questioning
that
I
just
want
to
talk
about
this
publicly
before,
but
I
want
to
highlight
it
again.
You
mentioned
circulation
and
some
of
those
those
hard
metrics
and
I.
Think
that
that's
great.
We
should
look
at
some
of
these
things,
but
I
want
to
be
clear
that
as
somebody
who's
looking
at
this
at
a
higher
level,
I
don't
like
to
think
about.
J
It
is
just
metrics,
because
when
that
happens,
we
don't
take
risks
to
reach
more
people,
and
you
know
I'm
thinking
about
the
bookmobile
kerfuffle
a
few
years
ago.
You
know
we
want
to
encourage
more
folks
to
get
involved
and
we
talked
about
getting
spanish-language
books
into
some
of
our
historic
or
that
may
start
out
as
a
small
program
with
a
handful
of
people,
and
it
may
not
look
good
on
a
balance
sheet,
but
that
has
a
a
immeasurable
public
good.
J
J
My
personal
opinion
would
be
a
joint
City
Hall
library,
but
that
doesn't
seem
to
have
much
traction
here
on
the
council,
but
I
appreciate
bringing
this
forward.
I
would
I
would
love
to
see,
maybe
somehow,
if
we
could
rig
it
up
where
cuz,
it's
not
a
a
major
increase,
but
you
know
nobody's
jonesing
for
a
property
tax
increase,
and
you
know
when
you,
when
we
talk
about
this,
we
don't
have
like
a
here's.
J
So
maybe
in
the
internment
we
find
a
way
to
maybe
lower
our
levy
a
little
bit
and
maybe
move
the
library,
because
it's
very
complicated
only
in
Illinois
would
you
find
such
an
interesting
governmental
structure
just
a
residence,
because
we
I
can
make
the
argument
to
somebody
that
you
know
where
you're
paying
less
than
somebody
in
Urbana,
but
they
don't
live
in
Urbana
I
live
in
Bloomington
and
how
we
we
figure
out.
The
budget
I
think
is
good
for
them
for
the
residents.
J
So
I
appreciate
the
hard
work
and
I
hope
that
we
can
ultimately
be
give
that
clear
direction
to
community,
because
I
think.
Ultimately,
the
community
supports
library,
expansion,
they
need
it,
they
require
it
and
it's
going
to
make
our
community
community
a
21st
century
community
and
attract
businesses.
It's
huge.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
K
Thank
you,
Alex
Jeanne.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
I
know
we
I
think
we
we
met
about
a
couple
weeks
ago
or
ten
days
ago,
right,
okay
and
I.
You
know
I
very
much
appreciated
the
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
the
library
and
and
I
go
in
some
areas
that
I
normally
wouldn't
go
into
and
in
the
back
rooms
where
the
staff
is
working.
I
definitely
agree
that
some
of
the
the
maintenance
and
some
of
the
infrastructure
repair
is
absolutely
did.
K
You
know
the
things
that
I
saw
in
there,
the
carpets
and
the
rooms
where
the
staff
is
crammed
and
and
in
some
of
them
I
think
you
know,
would
you
know
so
then
make
it
difficult.
You
know
to
to
access
you
know
for
for
for
some
folks,
so
I
think
you
know
that's
definitely
needed.
There's
no
question
about
that.
I
also
do
appreciate
the
work
that
the
downtown
task
force
has
done.
You
know
definitely
shows
you
know
some
creativity
and
willingness
to
think
outside
the
box,
but
that
said,
I
think
you
know.
K
K
Many
of
us
have
agreed
with
that
direction
and
to
now
change
in
the
middle
of
the
game
when
we've
told
residents
that
this
is
where
we're
going
and
we're
making
some
acquisitions
in
order
to
go
in
that
direction
and
to
move
back
in
a
different
direction,
I
think
is
a
little
bit
difficult
to
be
able
to
explain
and
can
lead
us
to
lose
credibility,
which
is
something
we've
always
you
know
worked
so
hard
for
so
I
think.
In
that
sense,
my
personal
preference
is
that
we,
you
know
we
keep
going.
K
You
know
with
the
course
that
we've
already
said,
because
we've
already
spent
a
lot
of
money
to
do
that
and
just
on
the
subject
of
you
know,
libraries
in
the
downtown.
That's
just
my
personal
preference.
My
like
I
prefer
a
library
in
an
area.
That's
not
as
busy.
You
know,
I
the
way.
I
picture
libraries
is
a
place
where
people
can
go
outside.
You
know
and
lay
around
in
the
grass
when
it's
nice,
you
know,
grab
a
nice
book
and
read
it.
It
feels
peaceful.
K
You
know
the
the
downtown
area
seems
to
be
a
little
too
busy
for
me
in
order
for
me
to
have
a
place
where
people
are
supposed
to
relax
and
read.
You
know
you
know
and
coming
out
and
looking
out
for
cars,
and
you
know
kids
and
things
like
that.
I
I,
just
don't
know
that
I
have
favored
that
that
location
for
for
that
reason,
but
that
that's
just
me
thank
you
all.
A
Of
them
mathy
thank.
L
You
for
all
the
work
you
guys
have
done.
I
just
want
to
get
clarification.
This
the
proposed
increase.
You
were
actually
talking
about
using
that
money
to
give
us
better,
line-of-sight
and
clarity
as
to
what
the
building
will
look
like
in
that
five-year
plan.
That
Scott
was
talking
about
right,
okay,
I,
just
you
know
the
way
that
was
presented.
L
I
thought,
maybe
I
misunderstood
the
first
time,
so
this
increased
those
dollars
will
give
us
a
better
picture
of
what
a
library
could
look
like
in
five
years,
because
we've
seen
some
generic
outdoor
landscaping
plot
like
right
now,
but
not
what
the
front
of
a
building
could
look
like
what
the
interior,
how
the
redesign
might
work.
We
haven't
seen
any
of
that
sort
of
stuff.
So
that's
what
you're
proposing
to
do
right
unless.
D
We
hear
from
you
that
you'd
like
us
to
halt
the
project
that
there's
no
appetite
for
raising
money.
For
that,
then
we
can
say:
okay,
this
is
where
the
repairs
and
replacements
that
need
to
happen
in
our
existing
building.
So
that
is
something
that
we
would
like
direction
from
you.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
today,
but
before
we
would
actually
spend
that
money,
we
would
want
to
check
back
in
with
you
and
make
sure
we're
spending
it
on
exactly
what
the
direction
that
you're
giving
I.
L
Mean
my
personal
preference
would
be
I
would
like
to
get
a
better
idea
of
what
and
when
and
where
and
out
how.
This
is
all
gonna
work.
So
to
me
this
would
be
a
good
spend
of
those
dollars
trying
to
figure
that
part
out
of
what
this
all
looks.
Like
you
know,
I
know,
there's
still
some
other
outstanding
questions,
but
I
think
that's
an
important
piece
of
all
this
going
forward
before
we
launch
into
any
kind
of
a
bigger
capital
campaign,
we
need
more
of
a
solid
idea
of
what
you
guys
are
thinking
about.
L
Mean
you
have
to
have
something
to
inspire
people
right.
You
have
to
show
them
a
building,
a
library
or
doing
anything
like
this.
This
is
a
once
in
a
generation
decision
of
how
this
is
going
to
happen.
You
know
we
were
if
we
make
a
decision
in
the
next
couple
years,
and
this
gets
done
nobody's
going
to
talk
about
redoing,
the
library
till
20.
You
know
50
or
60.
Probably
so
you
know.
D
L
M
For
clarification
so
tonight
the
council
is
being
asked
to
approve
the
estimate
of
the
tax
levy.
This
isn't
the
actual
tax
levy,
so
you
can
still
come
back
and
modify
this
when
we
do
our
final
levy.
But
what
this
tells
everyone
tonight
is
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
go
above
5%
5%,
which
would
then
trigger
a
truth
in
taxation.
M
Hearing
and
what's
being
proposed
is
not
above
5%
but
essentially
tonight
again
you're
just
setting
that
estimate
so
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that's
clear,
obviously,
what's
been
proposed
by
the
library
staff
is
an
increase
and
you,
your
other
alternative,
would
be
to
do
a
motion
to
keep
the
levy
flat.
We've
got
that
amount
if
you.
If
somebody
wants
to
make
that
motion
and.
D
A
This
isn't
exactly
related,
but
we're
keeping
our
tax
levy
flat,
which
means
we
usually
decrease
it
by
a
couple
bucks.
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
patty
Linton.
This
is
kind
of
tapping
into
your
next
question.
The
next
question:
roughly:
how
much
would
our
levy
go
down
because
we're
excuse
not
levy,
but
the
the
bill
for
an
average
home?
Would
they
go
down
for
like
a
buck
or
something.
A
A
A
A
D
D
You,
the
two
options
we
propose
is
what
alderman
Matthew
was
talking
about
with
the
more
comprehensive
site
plan,
or
if
we
decide
that
that's
not
the
direction
we
want
to
go.
There's
no
appetite
within
the
next
five
years
to
raise
that
money
kind
of
tied
to
that
five-year
CIP.
Then
we
would
need
to
spend
that
money
for
repairs
in
our
existing
buildings.
So
no
expansion.
F
D
Correct
so
I
think
there
is
discussion
that
that's
taken
over
the
summer
that
you're
referring
to
with
the
downtown
task
force.
All
of
that
that
came
to
place
in
the
library
boards
response
to
that
is
right.
Now
we
are
direction
that
we've
had
from
you.
Is
this
expansion
in
this
location,
and
so
until
we
hear
differently
from
you,
we
can't
act
on
anything
that
came
out
of
the
downtown
task
force.
Okay,.
I
I
M
A
A
A
Thank
you
for
okay
at
this
point.
If
everyone
will
vote
and
then
alderwoman
ray
I
will
ask
you
for
your
vote,
which
I
I'm
guessing
given
that
you
second
it
I
think
I
can
predict
that
fairly
well.
Okay,
the
motion
carries
all
the
one
way
that
are
you
an
eye
on
that
motion.
Hi
there
I,
okay,
the
motion
carries
seven
to
two.
There
are
two
nays
to
announce
madam
clerk
autumn.
A
N
N
A
little
background
of
what
that
the
proposed
tax
levy
goes
to,
which
is
essentially
most
of
it
goes
for
pensions
in
some
debt
service.
In
some
public
parks,
only
two
million
dollars
goes
for
general
operations
in
the
general
fund
of
the
whole
twenty
million
dollars
just
kind
of
putting
that
in
perspective,
we've
provided
a
little
bit
of
history
here.
I
do
want
to
point
out
something:
that's
a
bit
important.
If
you
look
at
the
growth
in
our
real
property
on
this
chart,
if
you
can
see
it,
you
know
going
back
to
oh
seven.
N
Oh
eight,
oh
nine,
there
was
some
some
nice
growth
from
year-to-year.
Of
course,
we
hid
the
real
estate
bust
and
we've
been
on
the
uphill
trend,
but
we've
actually
lost
some
value
in
our
EA
B's
in
tax
appeals
process
and
I
can
just
go
forward.
So
if
you
look
at
the
2015
tax
levy,
we
have
to
adopt
tax
levy
on
the
preliminary
estimate,
which
in
2015
was
1.8
for
the
final
came
in
at
1,
one
one,
which
is
about
a
twelve
million
dollar
difference.
That
difference
is
solely
based
on
tax
appeals.
N
In
2016,
we
adopted
the
new
levy
Etta
with
an
estimate
of
a
one
point:
eight
six,
five
EAV,
which
came
in
at
185,
one,
which
is
about
a
14
million
dollar
decrease.
That
is
a
combination
of
about
seven
million
dollars
in
tax
appeals
and
about
six
million
dollars
in
an
expanded
disabled
veterans
exemption
which
is
important
for
us
to
understand
in
year.
One
of
that
expanded
exemption.
We
lost
about
six
million
dollars
on
our
EAV.
N
That's
your
one
where
the
county
is
anticipating
that
that
is
going
to
grow
quite
a
bit.
So
what
we
did
this
year
is
we
did
not.
We
went
back
to
last
year's
final
eav
to
be
conservative
and
we're
not
going
to
proceed
with
the
small
increase
in
real
estate
taxes
to
be
conservative.
So,
just
when
I
understand
that
I
hope
that's
more
clear
than
mud.
N
N
Quite
a
bit
in
layers
underneath
that
so
there's
the
the
reference
for
you
guys
going
forward,
but
we
just
don't
know
how
much
that
really
is
going
to
add
up
to
in
the
long
run,
so
we're
proposing
again
to
keep
the
rate
flat,
which
you
can
see
here
from
the
16
to
the
17,
and
those
are
the
categories
that
it
goes
into
an
ism
when
you
adopt
the
final
ordinance,
that's
how
it
breaks
out.
That's
exactly
where
the
money
goes.
We
can't
change
that.
N
We
added
in
library
here
we
did
add
in
the
increase
just
for
positive
thoughts.
We
went
ahead
and
think
that,
and
you
know
it's
always
important
to
point
out-
they
were
adopting
the
tax
levy
way
before
the
budget
and
it's
kind
of
an
isolated
thing
which
you
guys
know,
but
in
having
said
that
we
did
kind
of
a
the
budget
timeline
here
for
you
all
for
you
to
take
a
look
at
and
if
that
doesn't
meet
with
your
expectations,
we're
happy
to
change
it.
N
N
L
We,
the
council,
has
adopted
a
program
where
we're
paying
and
accelerate
and
scheduled
towards
pensions
in
order
to
save
interest
money
and
because
we
have
to
get
to
90%
funded
by
2042
I
think
it
was
when's
the
next
time
that
number
increases,
because
it
was
on
a
staggered
chart
where
it
kept
increasing
up
how
much
we
were
paying
towards
those
passed.
Pension
debts
that.
N
That
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
funding
we're
not
only
funding
more
than
the
state
minimum,
we're
also
seeking
a
hundred
percent
funding
rather
than
90,
so
our
numbers
are
always
more
steep.
You
know
it's
just
looking
at
it
we're
in
year,
three
I
come
back
to
you
each
year
to
kind
of
let
you
know
how
that's
going:
it's
not
all
funded
from
the
property
tax
and
that's
important
to
point
out.
We
also
have
raised
utility
tax
as
well
for
the
pensions,
but
the
city
has
made
a
strong
commitment.
N
G
N
J
You
I
kind
of
allude
to
this
earlier
I
know
that
it's
always
wonky
the
way
this
has
to
turn
out
just
by
kind
of
state
law.
Ideally
I'd
like
to
see
something
where,
if
we
increase
the
library
tax,
then
we
would
then
reduce
the
city
concurrently.
However,
we
can
work
that
out
because,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
still
the
same
taxpayer
and
whether
we,
however
we
figure
it
out.
J
That
would
be
ideal
in
my
situation,
I'd
also
note
that
on
the
timeline
here,
the
sooner
we
can
get
the
proposed
budget
budget
distributed
the
better
I
know.
That's
always
taxing
on
staff
to
get
that
done
sooner,
but
that
helps
frame
our
conversation
getting
meaningful
feedback
from
the
public.
So
we're
actually
talking
about
real
documents,
real
numbers
and
real
direction.
A
N
A
A
A
Well,
that
means
we
are
unanimous:
nine
to
zero.
There
are
no
names
to
announce,
madam
clerk.
Thank
you
very
much
and
we
move
on
to
our
last
riveting
topic
of
the
evening,
and
this
is
presentation
and
discussion
for
proposed
council
meeting
and
council
related
boards
and
commission
meeting
dates
for
the
2018
calendar
and
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
our
distinguished
clerk
cherry
Lawson,
hit
chair.
C
Commissions
for
the
city
compiled
their
yearly
calendar
that
we
bring
forward
to
the
council.
Well
this
year
the
former
city
manager
asked
that
this
item
be
brought
forward
for
some
discussion
as
in
2016.
There
are
four
cancellations
of
the
committee
of
the
whole
meetings
and
two
cancellations
this
year
of
the
qaol
meetings,
and
so
with
my
discussion
with
him,
he
asked
that
council
take
a
look
at
their
schedules
and
determine
whether
or
not
the
dates
that
are
set
for
those
two
meetings.
A
Okay,
so
there,
as
the
item
10,
is
noted,
it
says
just
and
I'm
quoting
presentation
in
discussion
on
the
proposed
schedule
for
council
action
and
council
related
boards
and
commission
meeting
dates
in
the
2018.
Excuse
me
calendar
year,
so
there
is
no
action
taken
this
evening.
This
is
merely
to
begin
whatever
discussion
we
might
have.
If
we
are
unprepared
to
make
a
discussion
and
to
have
a
discussion,
we
think
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
our
calendars.
A
C
B
J
Blunt
I
see
our
former
esteemed
colleague
Jim
pruin
out
there,
and
you
know
he
was
the
proponent
of
this
and
I
agree
with
him
and
that
we
should
be
at
least
putting
on
the
calendar
with
the
county
and
normal
fifth
Monday
of
the
month
or
whatever
it
is.
If
we
do
that
now,
we
can
plan
ahead.
We
can
always
cancel
it,
there's
always
business.
We
should
be
talking
on
a
regional
level,
and
maybe
we
put
it
on
the
books
for
us
and
if
they
follow
suit
great,
if
not,
then
we
can
just
take
it
off.
J
J
A
A
You
know
what
we
can't
say
it
could
just
be
the
City
Council
or
the
Town
Council
excuse
me
of
normal,
and
it
could
include
the
county
board.
Whoever.
A
K
A
A
A
We
better
score
him
out
to
his
car
and
thank
you
former
alderman
Jim
prune
who's
in
the
audience,
because
he
had
been
a
big
proponent
of
that
for
a
very
long
time
and
I
think
that
was
a
very.
It
was
a
great
idea.
Any
other
comments
on
this
schedule
and
again
this
is
just
first
reactions
and
roughly
I'm.
Looking
at
you
Steve
do
we
have
any
idea
when
we
might
bring
this
back
for
final.