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April 23, 2018 - City Council Special Session
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B
Thank
you
very
much.
Actually
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
public
comment,
and
we
have
public
comment
up
to
three
minutes.
Apiece
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
do
have
now
around
the
fishbowl
table
every
Friday
we
have
had
the
mayor's
open
house
for
five
years.
You
certainly
can
come
I
ask
a
question
about
anything.
B
If
you
really
want
to
get
answers
or
possibly
problem
solved,
our
city
manager
was
dutifully
there
last
Friday,
and
so
that's
certainly
one
possibility
or
if
you
want
to
engage
in
dialogue
with
your
fellow
citizens
or
with
your
elected
officials,
that's
the
place
to
come.
The
public
comment
there's
a
one
way
conversation.
B
We
don't
respond
so
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
the
people
who
did
not
get
a
chance
to
speak
at
the
last
meeting
and
then
we're
going
to
go
through
that
list
and
I
will
because
of
the
quite
a
few
we
you
know,
have
a
half
an
hour
at
the
maximum.
So
I
would
ask
that
you
be
as
quick
as
possible
just
out
of
respect
for
others,
so
that
we
get
as
many
people
to
speak.
Elizabeth
Bening
is
Elizabeth
bidding
here:
okay,
a
John
binning,
Beverly,
Kirby.
B
C
C
B
D
B
D
D
E
Quick
comments
to
make
at
the
meeting
that
they'd
that
the
County
Planning
Commission
held
at
7:00
a.m.
one
recently
the
speaker
from
Kansas
City's
comment
about
pools
was
anytime.
He
can
put
a
great
pool
in
a
neighborhood
that
needs
it.
That
would
be
a
first
priority
over
some
others
in
that,
so
in
to
that
end,
I
would
highly
recommend
that
you
do
the
best
possible
solution
for
O'neil,
Park
and
pool.
E
My
second
comment
will
be
more
law
a
little
longer,
perhaps
prior
to
the
next
meeting,
but
I
really
hope
that
you
will
consider
at
least
amending
the
Jefferson
Street.
We
resurfacing
project
for
this
summer
as
I
understand
it
right
now.
The
100
block
of
Jefferson
is
being
kind
of
amended
to
just
a
very
basic
safety
over
safety.
Corrections
I
would
recommend
that
amendment
be
applied
to
the
entire
sixth
block
resurfacing
project
on
Jefferson.
That
is
a
area
that
actually
defines
downtown
Bloomington.
It
needs
to
be
special,
the
entire
block.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
B
G
B
B
All
right
there
we
go
nine
to
zero,
no
names
to
announce.
Madam
clerk
motion
carries
all
right.
The
minutes
will
stand
as
amended.
Next,
we
move
with
presentation,
with
updates
by
green
play
and
company
for
the
comprehensive
Parks
and
Recreation
master
plan
is
requested
by
the
Parks
and
Recreation
cultural
arts
department
and
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
turn
this
over
to
mr.
Tesla
who's
already
here.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
H
You
for
this
time
this
evening,
I'm
going
to
be
very
brief
on
my
handover,
pretty
much
the
time
to
Dylan
from
green
play,
but
why
they
give
you
a
kind
of
overall.
This
is
kind
of
a
year-long
process.
I've
told
these
guys
over
and
over
I
don't
want
to
do
it
fast
somewhat
either
right
and
what
we're
seeing
here
are
the
recommendations,
draft
recommendations,
the
guys
brought
back
after
listening
to
all
view,
staff
citizens.
So
this
is
where
we
are.
This
is
focused
on
the
comprehensive
master
plan.
H
If
you
remember,
the
last
comprehensive
plan
was
approved
in
97
with
latest
update
being
in
2009-2010,
but
we
understand
this
is
the
financial
issues
we
are
having
there's
going
to
be
no
funding,
that's
a
link
to
this,
but
we
want
to
have
our
roadmap
going
forward.
So
we
know,
as
funding
becomes
available,
I
told
you
guys
many
times,
I'm
looking
for
grants,
alternative
money
all
the
time.
So
as
money
comes
up,
we
want
to
be
able
to
implement
this
plan.
H
So
one
of
things
that
I
liked,
when
I
saw
the
first
draft
of
recommendations
from
these
guys
is
a
lot
of
these
we've
started
that
we're
implementing
some
of
these
before
we
even
heard
what
the
recognitions
were,
so
that
was
rewarding
for
our
staff
to
see
us
moving
forward
with
some
of
the
recreations
that
that
these
guys
are
bringing
forward.
So
with
that
I'll
let
Dylan
have
the
rest
of
the
time.
I
We've
done
some
sim
planning
with
the
recreation
center
feasibility
and
background
work
with
that,
but
today
I
really
want
to
focus
on,
as
as
Jay
said,
the
comprehensive
plan
of
this
just
so
we
can
get
all
of
these
planning
processes
wrapped
up
to
a
degree,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
your
you're
buying
and
acknowledgment
of
the
framework
again
as
we
move
through
this.
So
this
isn't
necessarily
what
the
final
recommendations
will
say:
it's
not
the
entire
conversation.
I
I
Some
of
the
public
input
process
that
we
had
that
we
had
presented
earlier,
there's
a
thing
called
a
grasp
Atlas,
which
is
a
an
inventory
process
that
we
went
through
so
the
physical
layout
of
your
parks
and
the
analysis.
So
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
information
that
goes
into
this
and
again,
as
Jay
said,
this
is
just
the
the
overall
theming
or
the
overall
process.
I
So
when
you
see
these
recommendations,
know
that
there's
in
the
draft
report
that
you'll
see
later
on
there
is
gonna,
be
full
analysis
of
each
of
the
recommendations
or
themes
and
those
recommendations
and
then
also
strategic
actions
within
those
recommendations.
So
when
we
look
at
something
in
a
30,000
foot
view,
how
can
staff
best
implement
it?
Dan
was
here
about
a
month
ago
to
go
through
that
process
with
staff
to
help
us
to
shape
those
recommendations,
to
be
a
customized
plan
for
Bloomington.
I
Just
a
reminder
of
the
planning
process
that
we
went
through
so
we
started
about
a
year
ago
spoke
to
many
of
you
on
the
phone
or
face
to
face
when
we
were
here
to
do
the
initial
information
gathering.
At
the
same
time,
we
did
a
inventory
and
level
of
service
analysis,
so
we
had
a
landscape,
architect
and
data
collection
firm
out
in
the
park
system
to
really
look
at
what
grasp
is
and
you'll
see
grasp
as
a
term
in
this
recommendation
process
and
really
what
that
is,
is
a
components
based
inventory.
I
So,
instead
of
a
traditional
parks
based
inventory
or
acres
based
inventory
that
you
see
a
lot
in
parks
and
recreation
spaces,
we
do
it
based
on
components
so
rather
than
grassland
acres.
We
look
at
things
like
trail
heads
and
playgrounds
and
park
benches,
so
it
gives
a
different
quantitative
score.
So
grass
just
defines
that
component
based
inventory
as
we
go
through
this.
I
We
are
here
in
October
to
present
basically
phase
one
and
Phase
two
to
you
to
see.
You
know
the
different
types
of
information
that
we
needed.
How
do
we
finish
out
the
survey?
How
do
we
synthesize
the
data
and
how
do
we
look
for
different
opportunities
in
the
analysis
to
really
complete
the
picture
of
of
Bloomington
Parks,
Recreation
and
Cultural
Arts,
and
then
now
we're
kind
of
at
this
draft
recommendations?
Phase
we've
gone
through
our
analysis.
I
We've
gone
through
some
of
the
background
research,
and
now
we
want
your
buy-in
so
that
we
can
finish
analysis
and
then
turn
around
a
draft
document
to
staff
who
will
then
give
it
their
red
pen
send
it
back
to
us
we'll,
send
it
back
to
staff
and
then
hopefully
it
comes
to
you
guys
as
a
completed
final
draft
for
approval.
Is
there
or
is
our
goal
with
that?
You
do
see
the
O'neil
Park
master
plan
and
the
recreation
center
feasibility
study
on
the
right
side
of
this
screen.
I
I
For
you
know,
we're
really
excited
about
them
being
really
in
tune
with
the
organization
or
them
being
really
in
tune
with
the
community.
So
I
think
it's
a
credit
to
Jay
and
his
staff
about.
You
know
how
in
tune
with
the
community.
They
are
that
you
know.
None
of
this
information
should
be
really
shocking.
You
know
the
implementation
here
and
they're,
given
the
different
circumstances
of
the
the
general
areas.
Well,
you
know
it's
kind
of
where
we
can
come
in
and
help
with
defining
a
new
solution
to
a
problem.
I
So
this
first
phase
of
the
of
these
recommendations
is
really
about
the
ongoing
existence
of
partnerships
and
looking
at
how
do
you?
How
can
you
proactively
plan
and
communicate
with
the
other
providers
that
are
in
the
in
the
in
the
area?
You
know
most
users,
don't
necessarily
care
who
provides
the
service
they
care
that
the
service
is
provided,
and
so
you
know
it's
not
necessarily,
in
our
opinion,
Bloomington's
responsibility
to
provide
all
recreation
services
in
in
the
area,
but
it
is
the
responsibility
of
our
department
to
to
influence
okay,
and
so
how
does
that?
I
How
does
that
best
happen?
And
so
you
see
these
kind
of
overarching
recommendations
moving
forward
about
looking
at
things
like
intergovernmental
agreements
and
and
policy
moving
forward
on
that.
So
again,
when
we
look
at
these
recommendations,
there's
going
to
be
a
more
analysis
within
the
body
of
the
document
and
then
strategic
action
within
those
recommendations
as
well.
Okay,.
E
I
One
of
the
things
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
big
theme
of
this
is
looking
at
the
variety
in
in
park
destinations
looking
at
the
grasp
analysis,
and
so
it
it
might
be
something
that
changes
the
way
of
thought
a
little
bit,
but
not
necessarily
the
the
total
direction
of
of
where
the
you
know
the
community
was
going
beforehand.
So
just
maybe
a
different
way
to
think
about.
You
know
what
the
the
park
system
looks
like.
I
I
Components
the
a
person's
access
to
components
around
their
community.
It's
there's
two
different
analysis.
One
was
done
as
just
a
general
neighborhood
access
and
another
one
was
a
walkability
score
of
about
a
1/3
of
a
mile.
One
of
the
things
that
makes
grasped
unique
is,
we
also
add
in
barriers.
So
we
consider
that
anything
that
you
wouldn't
send
your
child
across.
I
So
again,
we're
you
know
we're
looking
at
as
the
community
develops,
how
can
you
guys
best
proactively
plan
for
that
type
of
situation?
Again,
it's
not.
It
does
highlight
areas
just
based
on
the
threshold
this
there,
but
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
necessarily
identify
a
parcel
that
you
were
recommending
acquisition
for
or
anything
like
that,
yeah.
Sir,
questions
on
that
questions.
I
I
So
this
is
one
of
the
a
great
example
of
you
know
what
we
try
to
look
for
when
we
try
to
engage
with
the
community
when
we
went
out.
This
is
part
of
a
survey.
Some
of
these
survey
processes
are
brought
right
into
right
into
our
recommendations.
Again,
the
more
narrative
will
be
brought
into
the
analysis
of
that,
but,
looking
at
how
do
you
you
upgrade
the
current
system?
I,
don't
know
if
I
made
that
clear
enough
on
the
previous
slides.
You
know
our
recommendations
are
really
really
about.
I
How
do
you
take
what
you
have
and
then
show
in
good
faith
to
the
community
that
you're
moving
forward,
regardless
of
financial
situation
or
regardless
of
kind
of
the
environment
that
you
live
in?
How
do
you
make
the
tangible
changes
to
to
what
you
have
to
to
really
highlight,
or
you
know,
what's
the
low-hanging
fruit
opportunity?
Some
of
those
things
are
things
like
explore:
fitness
stations
for
equipment
on
like
loop
trails
or
things
like
that?
Fitness
is
obviously
a
huge
growing
trends
in
parks
and
recreation,
as
is
being
outdoors
and
trying
to
find
those.
I
You
look
at
some
of
the
other
pieces
that
showed
up
pretty
high
on
the
survey
results.
Water
access
in
the
community
is
another
big
and
growing
trend.
So
this
this
list
here
is
from
the
survey.
Excuse
me
and
then
this
second
list
that
consider
the
new
trends.
So
dog
parks
skateboarding.
It's
not
our
recommendation
to
put
a
dog
park
in
every
park
or
put
water
access
in
parks
that
don't
have
water.
I
I
You
know
the
these
are
big
growing
trends
in
the
community
I
know,
and
we
did
our
information
gathering
here.
A
gathering
area
is
was
desired,
you
know
is
wanted,
and
so,
when
you
look
at
this,
when
you
look
at
the
last
list
of
what
people
want
compared
to
you
know
the
list
of
growing
trends,
you
can
start
to
kind
of
prioritize
what
types
of
spaces.
If
you
were
going
to
develop.
I
If
you
were
going
to
develop
components
of
the
system
that
you
can,
you
can
highlight
and
prioritize
moving
forward.
Okay,
some
of
the
other
recommendations
so
like
this
recommendation
here
is
a
good
example
of
developing
program
of
standardized
Park
site.
Furnishings
is
really
about
creating
administrative
processes
and
systems
in
place
that
helps
you
cycle
the
lifetime
of
of
your
Park
System
assets,
but
then
also
create
a
attracting
system
so
that
you
know
I
think
the
next
slide
has
a
life
cycle
on
here.
I
So
when
you
know
when
you're,
when
you
start
to
use
similar
materials-
and
you
start
to
track
that,
you
can
also
track
lifetime
and
then
get
into
kind
of
deferred,
maintenance,
budgeting
and
just
so
it's
it's
really
just
trying
to
bring
in
the
conversation
of
smart
business
practices
into
developing
part
conversations.
I
do
want
to
point
out
the
da
da
standards
and
accessible
design
is
really
are
not
the
it's
not
the
recommendation
to
say
you
guys
are
non
compliance.
It's
ours.
I
I
I
think
we
covered
this.
You
know
one
of
the
things
a
little
bit
of
a
the
central
location
on
the
onion
park
was
talked
about
a
little
bit
in
by
the
staff
and
understanding
that
it's
not
a
not
really
a
geographically
central
location.
But
when
you
look
at
where
population
lives
in
the
community,
it
becomes
a
high
density,
walkable
access
park
location,
so
one
of
the
recommendations
in
there
is
is
looking
at
that
gathering
space,
not
necessarily
in
downtown,
but
maybe
where
the
population
has
access.
A
high
number
of
population
has
access
to
it.
I
Moving
forward,
I
should
also
say
that
when
we
look
at
these
recommendations,
are
these
these
opportunities?
We
aren't
also
saying
do
them
all
tomorrow.
This
will
also
come
with
somewhat
of
a
prioritized
list
of.
Maybe
you
tackle
these
in
the
first
three
years.
If
you
can't
tackle
you
know,
if
you
get
through
that
list,
maybe
there's
the
next
list
type
of
thing.
So
this
isn't
all
do
these
tomorrow.
Do
this
right
away?
It's
we'll
go
through
the
process
of
looking
at
opportunities
that
you
know
might
not
be
super
important
and
I.
I
I
These
are
looking
at
the
trail
issues,
so
the
same
graph
analysis
was
basically
done
with,
on
a
nun
trail
shed
and
access,
so
where
people
live
to
how
they
can
access
trails
and
then
connectivity
was
analyzed.
The
recommendation
at
the
bottom
is
kind
of
a
great
example
of
the
you
know
update
what
you
already
have
right.
How
do
you
think?
How
do
you
include
signage,
or
how
do
you
include?
How
do
you
upgrade
the
trail
system
without
a
whole
lot
of
added
cost
or
development?
I
So
this
is
a
great
example
of
been
not
right.
Now,
conversation
we
did
do
a
as
a
part
of
this
planning
process.
We
did
recreational
indoor
facilities,
I,
think
it's
a
no-brainer
that
you
know,
indoor
space
in
Bloomington
for
the
public
access
is
limited
on
a
recreational
level,
it's
called
for
in
the
2014
city
of
normal
plan
to
do
a
recreation
center
feasibility
study.
Je
obviously
had
parts
of
that
incorporated
in
this
plan,
so
you
know
I
think
it's.
This
is
a
great
conversation
of
saying:
hey.
A
recreation
center
is
probably
a
not
right.
Now.
I
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
look
at
how
to
improve
the
programming
that
happens.
That
would
happen
within
a
rec
center
and
so
here's
another
section
that
when
we
look
at
when
we
look
at
indoor
facilities,
we're
talking
about
the
four
walls
and
then
when
we
look
at
programming,
we're
talking
about
what's
happening
in
the
four
walls,
and
so
how
do
you?
I
How
programming
then
becomes
maybe
a
right
now
or
priority
recommendation
knowing
that
you're
not
building
a
recreation
center,
but
you
can
still
influence
how
programming
happens
within
the
community,
and
so
this
sectional
will
look
at
the
opportunities
to
you
know,
partner
with
programmers,
invest
or
divest
from
programming
different
opportunities.
You
know
that
we
see
we
see
along
the
way.
We
also
actually
did
a
grasp
analysis
of
some
alternative
providers
in
in
the
community
as
well.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
where
more
higher
density
of
alternative
providers
exist.
Then
we're
not
in
in
the
community.
B
I
It
was
done
with
the
existing
facility,
but
not
I
mean
it
was
completed
about
a
six
six
months
ago.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
them
moving
was
necessarily
in
the
conversation
at
that
time,
but
certainly
something
that
can
again
kind
of
grasp
provides
the
avenue
to
have
that
discussion.
You
know
you
can
assumedly
see
the
map
and
move
move
kind
of
the
level
of
service
assuming
we're
the
YMCA
would
go.
Thank
you.
I
Another
big
opportunity,
you
guys,
do
a
lot
of
special
events.
Already
people
want
more,
that's
just
a
huge,
that's
just
a
huge
trend
in
in
parks
and
recreation.
The
opportunity
for
more
you
guys,
would
kind
of
ties
back
into
that
Ewing
Park
idea
of
you
probably
need
a
bigger
space
if
you're
providing
a
larger
community
events,
and
so
how
do
you
implement
that?
You
know
moving
forward
again,
not
a
right,
this
second
opportunity,
but
something
that
to
look
for
as
you
as
funding
becomes
available.
I
People
are
always
looking
for
more
information.
You
know
what
what
are
the
best
avenues
for
that?
That
was
a
question
that
was
asked
on
a
survey
but
then
also
kind
of
the
service
delivery
of
like
evaluating
the
scheduling.
So
that's
evaluating
scheduling
for
programs
to
accommodate
a
wider
range
of
participants
is
something
like
if
you
provide
a
a
basketball
program
at
5
o'clock.
Are
you
providing?
Are
you
also
providing
something
for
their
parent
to
do?
Instead
of
at
the
example
we
talked
about,
was
sitting
on
a
bench
and
texting?
I
Are
you
providing
that
parent
something
to
do
at
the
same
time,
so
it
starting
to
evaluate
some
of
those
scheduling,
opportunities
moving
forward
and
then,
as
we
said,
you
know,
our
next
steps
would
be
to
give
staff
a
document
to
run
through,
say:
hey
this
won't
work.
Can
we
switch
it
or
this
priority
is
off?
Can
we
switch
it
and
then
try
to
get
you
guys?
I
A
full
document
and
a
full
document
would
have
this
comprehensive
plan,
information,
the
finalized
one'll
park
plan
and
then
the
recreation
feasibility
study
conversation
either
in
the
document
or
in
an
appendix
conversation,
depending
on
how
that
shifts
out.
So,
basically,
today,
again
we're
kind
of
presenting
to
you
what
the
the
overall
direction
has
become
of
the
document
and
really
want
your
input
on
what
you
want
to
see
and
in
some
of
these
recommendations,
or
you
know
what
you
know,
what
pieces
or
highlights
of
these
recommendations.
You
want
more
information
on
just
so
we
can.
I
I
I
Opportunities
at
O'neal
Park,
but
it'll
have
its
own,
probably
section
or
chapter,
that
is
the
O'neal
Park
master
plan,
so
hopefully
they
can
be
approved
at
the
same
time.
They
don't
necessarily
have
to
be,
though,
is
that
JJ
yeah
yeah
there
they
were.
They
were
concurrent
planning
processes
that
were
meant
to
be
both
separate
in
the
same.
So
if
they
don't
happen
to
be
the
same,
it's
they're
not
relying.
I
I
So
the
Atlas,
the
Atlas,
is
basically
every
Park
site,
it's
GIS
the
components
within
the
park
site
and
then
general
assessments
from
the
landscape,
architects
of
kind
of
the
quality.
It's
labeled
one
two
and
three,
and
so
the
ones
would
be
the
lowest
scoring
component
of
the
grass.
And
so
we
would.
We
would
view
those
as
some
of
the
low-hanging
fruit
and
so
we're
working
with
the
landscape
architect
to
provide
costs
of.
I
You
know
what
what
Sunnyside
Park,
if
you
know
the
ones
we're
taking
care
of
at
Sunnyside
Park,
it
might
cost
you
in
the
ballpark
of
you,
know
XY
and
Z,
so
that
you
know
again
being
a
framework
of
discussion
so
that
when
you
go
into
a
budget
cycle,
you
have
your
costs
put
out.
You
similarly
know
what
what
you
have
the
ability
to
spend
on
then
grasp
gives
you
the
opportunity
to
see
what
what
sites
have
the
most
would
have
the
most
impact,
and
so
you
can
try
to
filter
that
conversation
and.
J
Then
the
the
concept
behind
a
recreation
center.
What?
Where
does
that
come
from
I'm
thinking
about
actually
as
one
of
your
first
slides,
where
we
talked
about
different
opportunities
from
different
agencies
that
may
be
providing
some
of
our
recreational
needs?
So
at
what
point
do
we
begin
or
have
we
begun
to
talk
about
a
recreation
center?
I
think
that's
something!
I
haven't
really
out
of
my
radar
yeah.
I
I
also
think
you
look
at
things
like
the
baton
of
normals
master
plan,
calls
for
indoor
facilities
in
the
area,
and
then
you
just
kind
of
look
at
the
the
population
size
as
a
whole
and
what
they
want
for
fitness.
What
you
currently
have
is
indoor
facilities
and
in
a
perfect
world
a
recreation
center
would
make
sense
right,
not
necessarily
saying
that
you're
behind
by
any
means
they're
not
necessarily
saying
that
you
absolutely
have
to
have
a
rec
center
to
me.
B
I
think
part
of
what
you're
talking
about
is
probably
the
only
general
indoor
space.
We
have
it's
a
Lincoln
leisure
center,
which
is
hardly
in
great
shape.
Yeah
and
you
do
you
have
any
idea-
and
maybe
this
is
even
more
not
just
looking
at
you,
maybe
even
kind
of
looking
at
J
of
cities
our
size
roughly.
B
K
I
I
mean
I
think
it
really
depends
on
I,
think
the
philosophy
of
the
community,
and
so
what
we
generally,
our
general
philosophy,
is
as
a
company
is
that
we
promote
the
idea
that
the
the
government
is
in
place
to
provide
for
service
gaps
to
make
sure
that
people
aren't
missing
out
on
a
service,
and
it's
most
appropriate
for
us
and
in
the
public
space
to
provide,
provide
that
opportunity.
So
in
a
recreation,
sense
and
I'm
not
saying
this
is
the
example
in
Bloomington,
but
it's
an
easy
example.
I
The
there
will
always
be
a
pay-to-play
component
and
that
component
is
actually
growing
right
in
the
in
the
service
industry.
But
there
are
also
opportunities
for
families
that
don't
necessarily
have
the
ability
to
pay
into
that,
and
it's
not
necessarily
our.
There
are
certainly
communities
that
they're
paid
a
place
system
fills
those
service
gaps,
but
if
those
service
gaps
aren't
available,
then
we
think
that
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department
has
the
obligation
to
to
start
to
fill
those
those
types
of
needs.
So
that
may
be
it
in
an
ideal
space.
L
So
I
I
was
trying
to
understand
what
a
what
a
rec
center
would
have
in
it,
and-
and
this
is
in
a
way,
it's
kind
of
a
similar
question
to
what
alderman
sage
was
was
asking
cuz
I
see
a
lot
of
different
facilities
in
the
community.
You
know,
ISU
has
some
Wesleyan
has
some
and
then
you
have
other
no
private
providers
as
well,
so
I,
I
kind
of
when
you
say
indoor,
you
know
being
a
soccer
person,
I'm
thinking,
indoor
indoor
soccer,
but
I
I
wanted
to
kind
of
get
you
spective
on
that.
I
Yeah
so
there's
big
components
of
a
rec
center
that
when
we
do
surveys
and
things
like
that
generally
are
like
the
major
categories,
its
Fitness
space,
which
is
free
weights
and
classroom
space,
its
classroom
space,
so
things
to
do
like
skill
building
or
educational
classrooms.
Things
like
that
arts
programming.
I
There
is
generally
a
community
area,
whether
that's
a
community
gathering
space
in
the
center
or
a
like
a
rental
meeting
hall
type
thing.
Those
could
be
flex
spaces
to
have.
You
can
have
a
large
room
divided
by
three
to
have
those
those
kind
of
multi-purpose
classrooms.
It's
an
aquatic
area,
it's
a
gymnasium
and
then,
if
you
want
to
get
really
wild,
you
can
start
adding
on
kind
of
a
supplemental
thing,
so
things
that
are
new
and
growing.
I
You
know
the
indoor
space
you
guys
are
a
winter
community
or
a
cold
community
in
the
wintertime
and
people
want
safe
access
to
walking.
So
if
you
provide
an
indoor
track
space,
a
loop
track
to
provide
that
opportunity,
ice
sheets
of
ice
are
big
here
in
Colorado,
there's
a
there's,
a
rec
center
that
has
two
or
three
sheets
of
ice
in
it.
You
know,
certainly
not
something
that
is
cheap,
but
it's
certainly
demanded
by
that
community
and
so
to
me,
that's
kind
of
what
the
the
idea
is.
I
I
would
push
back
a
little
bit
on
the
idea
of
like
a
24-hour
fitness
or
the
ISU
fitness
facility
being
the
same
I
think
the
the
programming
space
in
a
rec
center
is
so
uniquely
dynamic
that
yes,
fitness
and
gym
activities
happen
in
a
rec
center.
But
it's
not
it's
not
necessarily
the
core
of
what's
happening,
of
everything.
That's
happening
within
a
rec
department
or
within
a
direct
programming
and
then
kind
of
that
Fitness
conversation
is
similar
to
alter
what
Alderman
sage
sages
conversation
was.
I
Most
often
we
find
that
people
experience
fitness
at
the
rec
center
and
if
they
decide
they
want
a
higher
level
of
service,
we'll
go
to
the
private
industry.
So
we
generally
find
that
the
communities
that
have
the
strongest
public
facilities
also
the
strongest
private
facilities
as
well,
because
it
it
establishes
it
basically
as
a
entry
level
or
entry
level
market
position
for
a
new,
a
new
user
to
then
go
experience.
The
private,
the
private
industry,
on
a
on
a
higher
level.
L
M
You
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
your
final
report,
but
I
had
a
question
about
the
overall
park
recommendations
and
the
graph
for
any
findings.
When
you
talk
about
population
density
and
level
of
service
per
acre
and
population
per
acre,
I,
don't
think
I
caught
it
when
you
say
per
acre.
Are
you
talking
about
acres
of
park
or
acres
of
community
acres.
I
G
M
I
So
other
communities
that
have
gone
through
grasp
your
threshold
is
a
little
bit
lower.
That's
not
to
say
that's
not
appropriate
right,
like
it's
totally
appropriate
for
that
number
to
be
lower
than
somebody
else's
and
I
think
that's
also
a
decision
to
make
moving
forward
whether
you
want
to
increase
or
decrease
the
level
of
service,
there's
no
standard
level
of
service
that
that
Bloomington
Illinois
needs
to
provide
based
on
their
population.
I
We
generally
like
to
say
if
your
community
is
satisfied
which
your
community
is
very
satisfied
and
it's
sustainable,
then
you're,
probably
providing
an
appropriate
level
service
if
things
become
unsustainable
or
your
community
becomes
dissatisfied
and
that's
the
opportunity
to
either
increase
or
decrease
that
level
of
service.
But
looking
at
your
own
system
and
creating
that
benchmark,
I
think
a
lot
of
this
is
is
trying
to
put
in
those
business
practices
of
you
know:
here's
here's
where
you
are
in
2018,
let's
reevaluate
in
2020.
I
B
And
just
in
terms,
one
of
the
things
that
would
concern
me
would
be
those
who
you
know
in
terms
of
community
that
would
ask
for
whatever
they
might
ask
for,
would
be
those
who
are
not
necessarily
voiceless
but
effectively
voiceless
or
don't
necessarily
know
that
they
need
it
right.
When
I
was
a
kid.
B
G
You
thank
you
so
much
for
your
work
on
this
and
for
the
presentation
at
least
the
the
taste
and
then
some
information
here.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
central
location
concept
and
your
study
led
you
there
and
then
you've
got
we're
going
to
see
more
of
some
recommendations
about
a
Ewing
Park
3.
But
can
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
that?
Yeah.
I
So
the
idea
of
a
Central
Park
is
I
would
say
it's
a
growing
trend
in
in
recreation
to
say
that
people
a
little
bit
want
to
get
out
of
their
neighborhood
and
get
into
their
community,
which
wasn't
the
case
probably
15
to
20
years
ago,
and
so
you
saw
this
like
big
push
in
recreation,
to
build
neighborhood
parks
and
to
focus
on
the
neighborhood.
So
people
could
stay
within
the
mile
there's
now
a
generation
mine
that
wants
a
bigger
experience
right.
I
Just
looking
at
Ewing,
Park
three
came
into
the
conversation
or
you
in
part
came
into
the
conversation
when
we
looked
at
the
grasp
analysis
based
on
where
population
actually
lived,
and
so
we
just
think
that
it's
a
good
opportunity
based
on
the
mass
of
people
that
will
live
in
that
area.
So
it's
a
centralized,
neighborhood
location
and
if
people
in
the
community
from
outside
of
walk
will
access
want
to
drive
in,
it
also
gives
enough
space
to
simulate
for
parking
and
a
larger
community
event.
K
N
Of
in
blah,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
going
through
all
this.
Let's
work,
you
know,
I
know
that
we've
we've
crossed
paths
a
few
times.
I
know
the
many
times
you've
been
through
the
community.
So
anytime
we
get
the
opportunity
to
engage
the
public.
That's
a
really
good
thing,
I
guess!
My
remarks
at
this
point
are
going
to
be
more
focused
on
kind
of
what
comes
next
and
I
know
that
it
was
sent
back
to
staff
for
for
recommendations.
N
It's
kind
of
the
ask
this
evening
and
it's
I
think
at
a
high
level
we
can
all
sort
of
agree
on
some
some
nebulous
things
that
are
kind
of
concepts
that
are
out
there,
but
I
think
when
we
talk
about
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
what
a
pool
might
look
like
or
what
a
rec
center
might
look
like.
That's
where
we
started
to
get
some
some
differences,
so
I
guess
this
question
might
be
more
for
J,
based
on
a
parks
master
planner.
H
One
of
the
takeaways
I
got
from
when
we
spoke
about
O'neill
Poole
last
time.
Let's
come
back
with
four
different
options
in
essence,
for
what
we
proposed
outdoor,
what
we
proposed
indoor,
what
we
currently
have
indoor
what
we
currently
have
outdoor.
So
if
we
were
to
build
new,
we
have
those
dollar
amounts.
I
only
have
the
cost
recovery
of
two
in
essence,
two
of
those,
because
that's
probably
beyond
their
scope
in
terms
of
we
have
to
diversify
them
to
get
more.
But
in
terms
of
onea,
we
have
that
those
four
options.
N
You
know,
we've
talked
about
some
of
the
numbers
over
the
years
of
keeping
kids
off
the
street,
putting
them
in
programs
or
facilities
that
keep
them
from
being
incarcerated
or
causing
trouble
and
I.
Think
that's
very
important.
One
of
the
interesting
pieces
that
I'm
taking
away
from
this.
This
parks
master
plan
that
I'm
looking
at
moving
forward.
It's
kind
of
having
equity
of
services
and
equity
of
quality.
So
you
take
a
look,
take
a
walk
around
Sunnyside
or
a
friendship
or
evergreen,
and
do
that
and
then
take
a
walk
over
to
McGraw.
N
There's,
there's
a
there's,
a
noted
difference
and
I
think
that
that's
that's
functionally
unfair
and
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
why
it's
ended
up
that
way.
But
as
we
talk
about
our
Parks
and
Rec
dollars,
I
think
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that.
Moving
forward,
I'm
noticing
that
there's
a
kind
of
a
gap
in
discussion
regarding
a
multi,
Sports,
Complex
I,
believe
that's
on
purpose,
because
you
didn't
really
hear
that
from
this
council
or
our
focus
groups
right.
So
don't.
H
N
Wow,
thank
you
and
I.
Guess
to
that
point.
You
know
we
talked
about
collaboration
and
discussions
with
our
partners
to
the
north
or
even
the
county.
This
is
why
I
continue
to
think
that
we
need
to
have
these
joint
meetings
where
we
can
put
some
of
these
things
on
the
table.
So
it's
not
just
discussion.
That's
lost
in
some
conference
room
somewhere
that
we
actually
talk
about
dollars
and
cents,
and
what
that
looks
like,
because,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
I'm
hearing
from
this
group
and
I
share?
N
This
isn't
going
to
happen
overnight.
Like
you
were
saying
earlier,
and
and
if
I'm
just
identifying
the
things
that
I
care
most
about
obviously
o'neil
pool
is
at
the
top
of
the
list,
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
the
facility
from
what
it
is
now
and
we
can
potentially
do
more,
but
I
think
connecting
the
Constitution
trail
comes
to
mind
is
a
potential
collaborative
effort
that
doesn't
cost
a
lot
of
money.
You
know
I
think
about.
We
can
all
identify
certain
things
that
we
can,
we
think
are.
N
We
are
passionate
about
here
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
may
not
be
strategic
in
that
so
like
for
one
I,
think
of
like
sand,
volleyball
courts,
there's
one
there's
two
courts
essentially
in
in
Clearwater
Park
I'm
driving
15
minutes
to
get
out
there
and
those
courts
are
packed
every
weekend
during
when
it's
nice.
So
do
we
make
it
need
somewhere
else?
N
You
know,
maybe
we
have
some
existing
space,
but
my
point
being
that
that's
my
opinion,
but
if
we
look
in
the
data-driven
numbers
and
main
strategic,
that's
what
we
can
start
to
parse
out
and
I
guess
this
would
be
another
call.
As
we
talk
about
normal
about
having
a
joint
meeting
that
we
identify,
what
these
targets
are,
how
we
can
collaborate-
hey
we'll,
do
ice
rinks,
if
you
guys
do
indoor
soccer
whatever
it
is
and
then
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
the
final
report
and
assess
recommendations.
Okay,
thank.
F
Scott
that
was
really
well
said
nicely
done.
I
just
actually
wanted
a
bit
of
clarity,
because
I
felt,
like
Emilia,
asked
him
either
or
a
question,
and
you
answered
yes
to
it
so,
and
there
was
you
know
there
was
two
parts,
the
question
and
you
answered
the
are
we
below
other
places
in
terms
of
the
graphs
of
analysis,
but
I
was
just
curious
after
she
brought
it
up.
Are
we
below
in
other
communities
of
our
size
in
terms
of
total
acreage
of
parks,
and
if
there
was
something
you
guys
looked
at
or
not
I.
I
F
B
Any
other
questions,
and
in
just
FYI
one
of
the
topics
that
company
I'm
having
lunch
with
mayor
goose
on
Thursday,
although
he's
technically
on
leave,
we
know
how
that
works.
Not
you
don't
really
unleash,
but
anyway,
one
of
the
top
things
he
wants
to
talk
about
is.
Is
that
and
so
I
may
have
something
to
report,
at
least
from
normals
perspective.
So
anything
else.
Thank
you
so
much
anything
else
from
the
council
all
right
at
this
point.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
move
by
all
the
woman
howlman?