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Joint Session Meeting: Connect Transit and Bloomington Public Library Board
B
D
F
E
F
A
Thank
you
very
much
at
this
point.
We
have
public
comment,
I'm
going
to
call
public
comment
for
all
three
bodies.
There
are
three
individuals
who
have
requested
public
comment
that
I
have
in
front
of
me
and
I'm
going
to
call
them
in
the
order
in
which
they
were
presented
and
I'm
going
to
list
them.
And
then,
if
you
have
up
to
three
minutes,
Glenn
Ludwig,
Josh,
Barnett
and
Vicki,
Tilton
and
so
Glen.
Are
you
single
in.
G
G
I
bought
the
effort
that
you're
putting
forward
tonight
to
to
listen
and
get
input.
That's
that's
important.
One
of
the
things
that
comes
to
my
mind
is
is
that
a
lot
of
the
problems
we
seem
to
have
in
our
larger
community
here
is
that
this
decisions
were
made
in
the
past
that
we're
living
with
now
that
were
based
on
really
flawed
assumptions
and
I,
wasn't
here
25
years
ago,
but
I'm
guessing
25
years
ago,
that
the
thought
was
a
twin
city.
G
Our
region
might
have
two
hundred
thousand
population,
I
guess
any
the
bloomington-normal
handle
them
together
tonight,
probably
125,000
silver
for
short
of
what
we
thought
were
going
to
be
so
we
did
some
mobile
building
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
which
we're
having
to
deal
with
knowledge.
It
really
too
bad,
but
can't
do
anything
about
it.
I'm.
G
Say
much
about
connect
transit
because
they've
heard
enough
from
me
in
the
past
that
can't
give
up
going
to
the
meetings,
because
I
didn't
think
I
was
having
much
impact.
I
do
know
that
got
capacity
beyond
demand
and
that's
a
problem
and
I
come
from
agriculture
background
and
the
problem
can
be
best
described
in
my
terms
is:
is
that
would
be
like
managing
a
country
elevator
where
they
received
pouring
soybeans
of
harvest?
G
If
you
built
10
years
ago
for
a
corn
yield
of
300
bushels
per
acre
and
McClain
County
you're
suffering
today,
because
you're
overcome
you've
got
capacity
far
more
than
what
the
marketplace
is
demanding.
Let
are
very
wise,
I,
don't
know
if
I
think
that
they're,
probably
very
few
for
my
side
of
talented,
not
on
the
user
library
and
my
best
input
on
library
at
my
group,
my
daughter,
who
has
got
a
young
great.
G
My
great
granddaughter
I
was
talking
to
my
daughter,
the
and
asked
her
about
the
library
and
so
forth,
and
she
said
that
her
granddaughter
and
my
great-granddaughter
probably
wouldn't
go
the
library
much
because
she
thought
she'd
be
read
most
of
her
reading
online
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
All
that
surprised
me
I,
didn't
know
that
things
we're
changing
that
fact.
G
H
Thank
you,
a
mere
Renner
and
chairman
Coeur
D,
and
a
president
Cardona
for
along
the
speaker
of
public
comment.
First
I
wanted
to
come
before
these
three
bodies
and
just
not
to
necessarily
advocate
for
this
project
or
new
library
and
expansion,
because
it
should
be
an
advocate
for
you
to
be
open
to
having
discussion
it.
It
is
always
warm
my
heart
when
different
bodies
of
government
are
able
to
come
together
and
to
have
open
honest
dialogue
with
one
another,
especially
when
there
is
a
project
like
this.
That
is
being
considered.
H
As
a
former
member
of
the
city's
Planning
Commission,
the
comprehensive
plan
is
very
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
and
when
you're
having
your
conversation
this
evening
in
your
you're,
putting
some
plans
together
in
your
you're
chatting
back
and
forth.
I
just
encourage
you
to
consider
that,
through
the
context
of
the
comprehensive
plan
and
to
think
through,
what
does
the
country
has
a
plan
all
for
us
to
do?
What
is
its
vision
for
our
city
and
to
frame
your
conversations
in
math?
I
Good
evening
connect
transit
board
members,
Bloomington
library,
Gordon,
Mariner
and
city
council
members,
and
any
of
the
task
force
that
are
here
first
I
want
to
commend
Mayor
Renner
for
moving
accountable
this
meeting
so
that
we,
the
public
and
the
media,
they
get
a
clear
picture
of
the
catalyst
project.
That's
been
discussed
by
our
downtown
Bloomington
task
force.
I
believe
there
are
many
points
of
this
idea
and
it
is
just
an
idea
at
this
stage
that
have
not
been
understood
and
even
reported
unfairly.
There
is
a
constant
confusion
that
all
parking
will
be
lost.
I
That's
not
true.
I
repeatedly
see
news
reports
that
the
library
board
and
the
connect
transit
are
greatly
opposed
to
this,
and
yet,
when
they
see
you
all
gathered
here
to
see
that
discuss
your
needs
and
to
explore
the
opportunities
that
this
might
give,
you
I
think
that's
not
quite
true,
either
I
believe
these
conversations
should
explore
more
fully
how
this
project
could
fill
the
needs.
Burg
connect
trance
at
the
library
and
the
city.
There
are
many
opportunities
that
will
show
themselves
just
by
tonight
sharing
of
thoughts.
I
We
should
certainly
consider
associating
costs
and
cost
savings
that
might
afford
the
taxpayers.
I
would
ask
if
this
is.
If
this
is
a
more
cost
effective
approach,
then
say
the
expansion
of
the
library
and
we
don't
address
it.
Are
we
not
being
very
irresponsible
to
not
at
least
look
at
it?
I,
don't
know
what
the
outcome
of
tonight's
dialogue
would
be,
but
when
we
shut
down
communications,
we
are
shutting
down
possibilities
of
finding
solutions
that
will
benefit
our
community
in
the
future.
I
I
encourage
you
to
continue
these
open
conversations
to
explore
viable
ideas
and
to
keep
a
clear
vision
of
the
roadmap
that
we
have
been
given
in
the
Comprehensive
Plan
Josh
that
was
approved
by
this
council
two
and
a
half
years
ago.
Let's
not
only
talk
this
evening,
let's
respectfully
listen
to
each
other
with
these
organizations
and
what
the
city
has
to
say.
Please
open
your
minds
to
not
only
the
possibilities
for
the
Market
Street,
Garage
location,
but
also
the
existing
library
location
and
the
bus
transfer
area.
Improv,
Justice
Center.
I
A
Again,
just
to
clarify
this
is
the
second
of
a
part
of
the
report
from
the
downtown
task
force,
and
they
will
begin
to
present
some
of
that
information.
And
then
we
will,
because
it
involves,
as
an
anchor
project
in
the
more
detailed
report
was
last
week
in
terms
of
some
of
the
the.
Perhaps
that
was.
A
Project
information
so,
at
this
point
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over.
Oh,
yes,
let
the
record
show
that
all
the
bulk
of
the
long
wait
has
joined
us
all
right.
It's
a
point,
I'm,
going
to
turn
this
over
to
the
chairman
of
our
downtown
task
force
and
that's
all
the
woman
Emilia
burgers
have
to
speak
to
us
for.
K
Greatly
appreciate
the
opportunity,
the
task
force
on
some
of
the
important
issues
facing
our
downtown
area.
The
downtown
task
force
was
formed
last
year
to
prioritize
action
items
for
the
continued
violence
nation's
downtown
Bloomington
over
the
next
three
to
five
years.
The
action
items
were
to
be
grounded
in
the
planning
documents
that
have
been
orderly
formally
ratified
by
Council,
including
the
city's
comprehensive
master
plan
and
the
downtown
strategy.
The
majority
of
the
task
force
work
focused
on
smaller,
easier
to
achieve
project
for
the
high
potential
return
on.
K
Following
the
guidance
of
the
downtown
strategy
plan,
the
task
force
also
made
recommendations
related
to
the
potential
catalyst
projects.
The
task
force
defined
countless
projects,
as
only
those
projects
to
have
the
potential
to
bring
in
large
numbers
of
people
to
the
downtown
area.
On
a
daily
basis.
The
downtown
strategy
plan
identified
three
potential
non-retail
catalyst
for
the
downtown
area,
the
YMCA,
the
Public
Library
or
Community
College.
The
task
force
further
explored
the
possibility
of
a
library
catalyst,
since
the
need
for
expansion
of
a
facility
has
been
publicly
discussed
for
quite
some
time.
K
This
focus
was
also
which
advises
as
follows:
notes
facilities
that
serve
the
entire
community,
such
as
the
Bloomington
public
library,
should
be
located
in
the
state
or
preferably
the
downtown
district.
This
area
of
Bloomington
is
accessible
and
the
concentration
of
facility
is
intended
for
all
community
members
increases
for
ease
of
use.
The
task
force
also
exploring
potential
locations.
The
downtown
strategy
plan
identified
the
Market
Street
Garage
as
a
crime
site
for
redevelopment
and
described
it,
as
quote
one
of
the
largest
redevelopment
parks
up
in
downtown.
K
It
also
noted
that
the
Market
Street
Garage
is
a
great
opportunity
to
kickstart
development
in
the
downtown
area.
The
Market
Street
parking
deck
also
is
in
declining
condition
and
is
reaching
the
end
of
its
usable
lifespan.
The
task
force
recognized
it's
been
any
recommendation
to
redevelop
the
Marva
street
parking,
parcel
or
parking
deck
must
include
plan
for
replacement
of
the
lost
parking
and
the.
K
Reflects
this
not
connect
transit
was
identified
as
a
potential
for
a
catalyst
project,
because
the
confidence'
plan
identifies
the
need
to
upgrade
the
front
Street
transfer
location
as
a
short-term
priority.
The
task
force
was
pleased
to
learn
that
partner
with
Connect
transit
could
provide
an
alternative
source
of
funding
through
federal
grants
and
low
interest
loans.
K
Ultimately,
the
task
force
made
three
recommendations
for
tireless
projects
that
were
placed
into
tiers
based
on
the
following
criteria:
current
opportunities,
level
of
risk,
availability,
partnerships
and
overall
communities.
The
Tier
one
recommendation
was
to
redevelop
the
Market
Street
garage
into
a
mixed-use
facility,
including
parking,
a
transfer
station
and
a
new
public
library.
The
task
force
report
notes
that
a
conclusion
of
the
library
of
this
project
is
not
feasible.
There
are
other
options
such
as
residential
or
office
space.
K
The
tier
2
project
recommends
acquisition
and
development,
a
vacant
property
and
continued
pursuit
of
a
viable
health,
and
the
tier
3
recommendation
is
to
incentivize
redevelopment
surface
parking
lots
into
mixed-use
projects,
with
an
emphasis
on
ground
for
detail
and
upper-level
classic.
Please
note
that
these
recommendations
are
areas
identified
for
potential
exploit
exploration.
The
task
force
is
aware
and
notes
in
this
report
that
a
great
deal
of
due
diligence
and
public
dialogue
must
be
undertaken
before
the
city
could
ever
be
in
a
position
to
report
on
any
projects.
The
scale
and
catalyst
be
required.
D
L
Give
a
background,
sectional
location,
funding,
our
goals,
Peck
transit
service,
fifty
hundred
passengers
per
day
on
average
Monday
through
Friday
the
project
location.
It's
been
transferred
location
for
almost
thirty
years.
Currently,
nine
different
routes
are
the
downtown
location.
The
conduct
ransoms
have
the
required
space
to
fit
all
nine
buses
simultaneously.
Connect
accuses
Front
Street,
but
a
law
and
justice
center
for
applied
buses.
The
north
side
of
Front
Street
for
two
additional
levels.
The
last
two
buses
arrived
after
the
first
set
of
buses
depart.
This
thing.
L
Convenes
is
pink
convenes,
his
customers,
trying
to
transfer
and
it's
what
our
weight
and
reduce
some
connectivity
of
the
overall
bus
network,
a
new
downtown
Transit
Center
left
a
which
reduce
inefficiencies
that
link
occurred,
request,
r/a,
Transfer,
Center
facilities.
The
dim
facility
reduced
the
time
and
mileage
required
to
go
around
the
block,
make
each
route
align
perfectly
with
Front
Street.
These
increasing
revenue
outing
the
inefficiencies
our
efficiencies
will
allow
for
maximized,
on-time
performance
in
and
out
of
downtown
Wilmington,
improving
system
performance
and
the
event
of
a
delay.
L
L
Improve
access
for
existing
transit
users
and
transit
dependent
customers.
What
your
body
is
safe
and
convenient
place
to
access
transit
by
the
elements
increase.
Customer
service
opportunities,
such
as
a
customer
service
desk
customers,
will
be
allowed
to
access
to
a
traditional
time
plus
traffic
information
arriving
the
target
muscles
when
interacting
with
the
community
and
specifically
transit
users,
make
transit
Wrigley
regular
gears
is
honored
for
more
services
and
more
transit
infrastructure.
The
increased
transportation
choices
provided
by
new
transpacific
will
encourage
Curt
riders
to
choose
downtown
Wheaton
as
their
destination
and
will
be
driver
for
different
choice.
L
Riders
to
give
public
transportation
as
an
option
connect,
transit
board
has
made
a
new
transfer
of
center
location
and
priority.
In
a
three
year.
Strategic
plan
addressing
the
downtown
transfer
center
has
been
a
longtime
goal
over
the
last
five
years
and
attempts
to
secure
state
and
federal
funding
to
improve
or
move
transfer
location
in
December.
Following
the
downtown
task
force.
Reporter
connection
contact
contact
with
Bart
to
improve
to
identify
the
square
footage
needs
of
transfer
center
with
a
passenger
waiting
area,
the
internet
would
fit
in
general
of
the
buses
simultaneously.
L
After
farmer
group
is
presented
to
the
trick
transit
board
of
trustees.
The
presentation
will
be
offered
to
see
a
Bloomington
council.
The
next
step
of
the
planning
process
is
to
conduct
a
feasibility
study
reviewing
up
to
three
possible
locations,
employment
and
how
will
effect
turn
around
and
tell
me
to
these
possible
locations
before
the
feasibility
study
is
started.
A
multi-process
public
comment
process
will
be
developed,
I'm
sure
customers
and
stakeholders
may
give
an
ample
opportunity
to
voices.
Otherwise,
it's
heard
all
the
presentations
will
also
take
place
regarding
the
process.
L
Once
the
site
needs
analysis
and
feasibility
study
has
been
conducted,
it
gets
connected,
transit
the
opportunity
to
apply
for
federal
and
state
funding
for
the
project.
It
may
take
three
to
five
years,
secure
the
funding
for
you
to
fill
and
funding
you
Transit
Center.
This
is
why
it's
so
important
to
start
the
process
now
have
a
simplification,
select
the
network
that
only
the
part
of
the
transportation
and
the
US
Department
of
Transportation
to
prove
our
application.
L
Every
year
goal
is
to
fund
these
projects
for
partnerships,
ranks
in
our
local
capital
account
connect,
transit
is
looking
forward
to
sales
tax
conversation
and
exploring
other
public
private
partnerships.
Connect
is
committed
to
examine
all
opportunities
as
they
arise,
in
addition
to
developing
opportunities
with
public
or
private
partners
in
the
community
to
help
achieve
one
of
our
most
important
strategic
goals,
which
is
to
build
a
new
toots
but
downtown
theater
center
connect.
L
Trans
is
looking
Pinnock
hopes
to
partner
with
the
city
of
Wilmington,
accomplish,
share
bolts,
attack,
transit,
more
walkins
conversation
on
her
desires
and
how
we
can
work
together
to
build
a
new
top
downtown
Transfer
Center.
That
hopes
to
provide
information
on
our
needs
and
listen
to
the
needs
of
city
and
winery.
E
Today's
library
was
built
in
1976
for
a
population
of
41,000
people,
it
was
renovated
in
2006,
which
included
flipping
the
building
to
face
the
parking
lot
and
in
closing
a
portion
of
the
lower-level
open-air
covered
parking
gained,
seven
thousand
square
feet
of
internal
space.
That
brings
it
to
a
total
of
57
thousand
seven
hundred
square
feet
and
seventy
spaces
in
our
parking
lot.
E
Multiple
studies,
since
2000
have
determined
that
we
actually
need
98
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty-five
square
feet
for
our
population,
since
the
renovation
in
2006,
we've
seen
a
73%
increase
in
circulation
and
a
13
percent
increase
in
program
attendance,
so
this
means
that
we
have
inadequate
parking
right
now.
Frequently,
library
visitors
have
have
to
circle
the
point
wat
to
find
a
place
to
park
and
or
leave
without
coming
in
due
to
lack
of
parking.
Our
collection
is
4,000
items
less
than
our
standards
recommend
and
is
shelved
tighter
than
recommended.
E
This
leads
to
discarding
materials
sooner
than
we'd
like
and
a
collection.
This
full
of
math
should
leads
decreased
circulation
because
it's
harder
for
people
to
browse
and
looking
for
our
demand
exceeds
capacity
for
programming.
We
have
to
turn
people
away
or
have
leading
lines
and
more
popular
programs.
For
example,
our
beginning
of
summer
reading
party
last
year
drew
in
over
700
people.
This
was
a
drop
in
the
program
that
spanned
a
two-hour
window
and
it
required
about
said
too
early
didn't
exceed
fire
code
and
we
kind
of
line
from
the
room
to
the
entrance.
E
The
entire
time
team's
own
activities
often
have
we've
had
to
institute
wait
lists
for
the
services
in
that
area
and
group
study
spaces
are
almost
always
booked.
We
only
have
two
group
study
rooms
in
our
building
and
we
also
have
innocent
fishing
staff
areas.
One
office
has
an
ethernet
cord,
that's
taped
around
the
entire
room,
because
the
area
was
designed
charge.
The
Internet
one
manager
has
an
office
wall
that
doesn't
really
require
expensive
conversations
to
take
it
elsewhere,
and
we've
often
taken
hits
on
the
staff
side
to
make
sure
that
is,
gets
the
better.
E
Our
funding
that
we
have
available
for
our
project,
with
our
existing
reserves
and
estimated
fundraising
capacity,
is
just
about
5.1
million
dollars
and
so
far
state
since
2000
in
the
library
has
developed.
Three
long-range
strategic
plans
focused
on
building
conducted
three
needs
assessments,
suspect
the
qu,
Community
Survey,
Explorer,
9,
plus
potential
sites
for
expansion
operations,
and
some
of
those
were
explored
with
a
normal
public
library,
hired
three
different
architects
projects
and
presented
seven
different
projects
proposes
to
City
Council
and
three
different
joint
city
council
and
my
board
task
force
having
made
over
here.
E
Most
of
these
were
at
a
request
of
City
Council.
Approximately
140,000
dollars
has
been
spent
by
the
library,
but
I
was
thinking
on.
All
of
those
are
some
costs.
Some
of
those
costs
are
for
long-range
plans
or
building
a
program
that
can
be
use,
no
matter
the
location.
Our
most
recent
work,
including
conceptual
sites
with
plans
for
expansion
on
our
current
site,
which
has
been
presented
to
the
council.
E
We
currently
have
a
proposal
awaiting
for
consideration
that
will
further
develop
these
site
design
and
incorporate
conversations
with
city
staff
representatives
like
Public,
Works
and
planning,
and
we
hope
we
would
hope
to
have
that
work
if
approved,
completed
in
science
or
budget
considerations
this
year,
because
any
preparation
projects
need
to
be
incorporated
at
next
year's
budget.
Now
this
is
going
to
pass
out
a
paper
timeline
of
what
happened
since
2006.
We
have
enough
further
people
at
the
tables
and
then
you
have
extra
copies
of
the
Pope,
but
it
will
be
available
on
our
website
and.
E
So
what
do
we
need?
The
library
really
needs
a
resolution,
a
conversation
about
our
needs,
expansively
going
on
since
2000.
We
are
in
a
cyclical
holding
pattern
and
we
have
two
plus
two
million
dollars
into
bird
mania:
we're
trying
to
be
good
fiscal
stewards
by
deferred
maintenance
until
we
come
to
some
sort
of
resolution,
some
of
those
projects
can't
wait
like
solvers.
A
resolution
would
include
the
direction
that
we
should
go.
A
Thank
you
very
much
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
to
Stacey
and
death
who
are
facilitators.
They
have
agreed
to
volunteer
their
time
because
we've
got
quite
a
few
stakeholders.
What
will
happen?
They
will
explain
the
process
and
when
we
break
up
well
we're
not
going
to
break
you're
in
small
groups,
there
there's
no
pour
on
them
any
group
at
any
individual
table.
We
will
need
to
recess,
and
then
we
will
come
back
into
session.
A
Everything
is
that's
being
said
at
each
table
is
being
recorded.
That
will
be
part
of
the
public
record,
but
advised
by
legal
counsel
in
excess
of
cautiousness.
Just
to
be
absolutely
certain,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
questions
whatsoever
in
terms
of
Open
Meetings
Act,
because
normally
the
public
would
be
able
to
listen,
as
people
are
talking,
so
we
will
recess
and
then
we
will
come
back
and
into
session.
After
all,
of
the
discussions
are
finished
so
I'm
just
explaining
that
part
of
the
process
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Deb
and
Stacy.
B
M
Call
set
up
she's
the
director
of
the
Community
Preservation
clinic
at
the
University
of
Illinois
College
of
Law,
where
she
is
also
a
professor
tonight.
We
are
talking
about
a
big
idea
with
a
lot
of
moving
parts.
No
one
knows
where
this
process
might
take
us
and
we
might
even
uncover
some
surprises
tonight
is
not
about
finalizing
decisions,
and
we
will
not
be
voting.
Tonight
is
about
exploring
opportunities.
M
Everyone
says
that
our
community
needs
more
collaboration,
and
this
is
what
that
looks.
Like
invested
caring
leaders
in
a
room
using
their
creativity,
strategic
thinking
and
experience
to
think
about
what
the
future
might
look
like.
So
we
want
you
all
to
talk
and
brainstorm
and
ask
questions
and
make
connections,
because
that
is
how
we
will
move
forward.
N
Thank
you
very
much
dad.
So
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
now
is
posing
questions
to
all
of
you
and
then
a
lot
of
you,
a
specific
about
a
time
in
which
to
discuss
them
in
your
slum
groups
and
then
you'll
be
reporting
them
out
afterwards,
as
really
just
a
summary
of
what
those
discussions
were
so
I
want
to.
N
Let
you
know
that
as
we
formatted
these
questions,
the
first
half,
we
have
90
minutes
that
have
been
allocated
for
this,
so
the
first
half
is
focused
primarily
on
discussions
regarding
the
catalyst
project
and
deepening
that
through
and
give
you
an
opportunity
to
reflect
on
the
information
that
was
learned
here
today,
as
well
as
your
thoughts
on
moving
forward.
After
that
first
half.
N
And
that's
the
idea
here
is:
this
is
right
now
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
allow
you
to
have
that
discussion
amongst
your
groups
rather
than
as
a
large
poll,
just
because
of
the
fact
in
our
sheer
number
and
volume
that
we're
dealing
with
that.
Have
we
launched
into
questions
right
now
from
the
entire
group
we.
H
N
The
small
groups
and
then
a
recording
out
and
a
reflection
on
that
all
of
this
will
be
memorialized
into
a
report
that
we've
we'll
provide
to
each
of
the
boards
to
have
an
opportunity
to
review
and
look
at
the
materials
that
were
provided
and
what
information
was
gathered
and
I
will.
Let
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
looking
to
establish
with.
This
is
what
are
the
next
steps
in
this?
O
N
Questions
were
developed
as
facilitators
and
they
were
somewhat
provided
and
the
structure
that
we
had
as
in
prior
to
this
time.
We
also
circulated
an
online
survey
to
all
of
the
attendees
groups.
Regrettably,
in
a
survey
format,
those
questions
had
to
be
very
narrow
and
focused
on
issues,
and
so
those
questions
were
very
narrow
and
structured.
That
way,
because
that's
how
surveys
act,
we
have
quite
a
file
and
a
little
completa
that
we
can
then
summarize
and
provide
the
whole
point
of
this
discussion
is
to
allow
you
to
talk
more
openly
amongst
yourselves.
N
If
you
look
at
the
makeup
of
the
tables
here
that
we
have
provided,
there
are
representatives
from
City
Council,
there
are
representatives
from
the
Quebec,
transit
and
I
represent,
and
representatives
from
the
public
library.
That
is
so
you
each
are
getting
to
act
and
engage
in
the
discussion
amongst
yourselves
and
then,
as
I
said,
we're
going
to
be
reporting
those
out
so.
N
N
J
N
N
N
Are
not
yet
we
will
be
producing
that
information
as
part
of
our
final
reports,
but
we
didn't
want
to
publish
that
information
without
getting
an
opportunity
for
people
to
have
able
to
answer
and
discuss
and
have
a
more
in-depth
conversation
because
survey
answers
to
be
very
limited,
so
that
survey
data
though
it
will
be
made
available.
We
wanted
to
give
everybody
an
opportunity
to
have
further
discussions
and
thought
before
we
produce
that
information.
D
N
N
O
N
N
N
Your
focus
for
your
service
that
focus
of
the
survey
was
very
broad
and
again
we're
gonna
be
reporting
that
out
later,
and
so
this
is
not
going
to
feel
the
appropriate
time
for
us
to
go
into
the
survey.
Information.
Well
conclude,
all
of
that
in
our
report
for
the
entire
public
to
be
able
to
see
including
all
of
that
information.
Thank
you.
So
it's
this
time.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
go
ahead
and
move
the
first
question
into
our
group.
N
What
we're
gonna
do
is
as
soon
as
I
get
done
in
and
asking
this
question
we're
going
to
take
a
recess,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
15-minute
recess
to
allow
you
to
then
discuss.
Ok,
it's
for
our
the
meeting
Zach.
You
want
to
make
sure
we're
having
those
recesses
in
place
once
that
15
minutes
is
up.
We
will
then
reconvene
the
meeting
and
have.
N
N
N
This
and
hopefully
some
of
the
information
or
you
obtain
in
the
presentations,
will
helpful
in
your
discussions
as
you're
talking
about
these
things
and
then,
like
I,
said
we'll
call
the
recess,
set
the
timer
and
go
from
there.
So
our
first
question
that
we
have
is
if
the
catalyst
project
were
to
move
forward,
what
would
be
the
ideal
conditions
for
it
to
be
completed?
N
Please
include
time
frames
for
the
project,
potential
funding
sources
and
those
individuals
who
would
be
decision-makers
in
that
who
would
have
to
decide
in
order
to
participate
in
order
to
make
the
catalyst
project
come
to
fruition.
So
that
is
our
first
question.
You
now
have
15
minutes
to
go
ahead
and
go
into
that
discussion
and
I
now
call
a
recess
or
do.
N
A
P
F
F
A
J
J
J
A
N
At
first
before
I
turn
the
floor
over
and
each
table
an
opportunity
to
report
out
on
their
discussion
definitely
were
walking
around
the
room,
and
it
was
very
perfect
thank
you're.
The
discussions
that
we're
going
on
that
person
seems
to
talk
even
really.
Each
group
is
talking
to
flushing
out
ideas
and
thinking
through
things.
It's
just
wonderful.
I
N
N
Q
So
you
know
there's
still
issues
where
we
can
have
unified
boards
for
library
and
for
connect
transit,
but
the
buck
stops
at
City,
Council
and
city
council
needs
to
realize
that
as
well.
But
you
know
I
think
that
we
were
all
pretty
unified
on
the
idea
of
a
public
referendum.
If
this
was
gonna
happen,.
R
I
O
N
C
C
The
argument
on
the
other
side
was
that
perhaps
this
is
the
discussion
that
needs
to
happen.
In
fact,
this
is
part
of
the
rigor
at
the
risk
of
putting
words
in
people's
mouths.
There
was
some
discussion
of
the
need
for
a
feasibility
study.
There
were
discussion
of
how
the
project,
how
this
catalyst
project
would
intersect
with
rent
of
the
city.
There's
an
issue
with
deferred
maintenance
with
the
current
library
location.
C
There's
two
million
dollars
in
deferred
in
deferred
maintenance
that
need
to
be
addressed
rather
soon.
Funding
sources
are
fairly
obvious:
state
federal
grants,
as
well
as
possibility
of
federal
loans
and
the
possibility
of
local
dollars,
the
decision-makers,
Library
Council,
transit
and
there's
anything.
Anyone
else
would
like
to
add
mistake:
walk
since
there
was
a
significant
recession,
I'm
willing
to
let
that
speak
as
well.
L
We
had
some
issues,
try
understand
the
question,
but
I
I
think
what
we
did
talk
about.
The
most
long
was
just
a
time
line
between
what
that
transition
is
trying
to
do
with
applying
for
state
federal
grants
and
where
the
library
is
and
moving
those
bothos
projects
forward.
That
would
least
take
three
to
five
years
and
a
number
just
to
maybe
me
fund
the
project.
L
J
F
F
Library,
well,
those
questions
would
have
to
be
hesitant.
Currently
timeline.
We
talked
about
you
know,
decision
to
private
heck.
We
may
do
even
one
perform
an
episode
in
this
question.
I
would,
sooner
than
later
than
three
or
six
months,
it
may
see
some
revenue
from
city
bonding
Tiger
grants
federal
funding
if
that's
even
available
on
the
ultimately
potentially
a
library
property
tax
increase.
I
was
all
concurrently
just
making
sure
the
board's
independent
public
art.
N
I
N
Everything
work
you
actually
identified
a
lot
of
barriers
that
you
saw
rather
than
the
things
that
came
together.
That
might
actually
make
this
project
more
feasible
versus
last,
but,
as
you
have
identified
those
things-
and
there
were
a
number
of
ideas
that
were
circulated-
we
heard
about
maybe
potentially,
that
we
need
a
referendum.
N
Other
ideas
and
a
lot
of
discussion
about
funding,
I
think
the
question
that
I
really
want
you
to
know
about,
as
you
have
already
identified
a
number
of
barriers
that
you're
perceiving
in
this
lady
to
talk
and
as
you've
heard
all
of
these
barriers
and
concerns
that
been
raised.
What
do
you
think
is
the
biggest
barrier
that
has
to
be
overcome,
and
that
is
the
question:
what
do
you
think
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
most
challenging
aspects
of
the
catalyst
tier-one
project
moving
forward?
What
is
the
most
challenging
aspect
of
it?
A
A
J
J
A
N
I
A
J
J
A
J
L
J
N
Q
Q
Q
R
C
B
N
N
That
think
about
it
and
what
that
may
look
like
now.
What
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
change
gears
and
assume
that
the
catalyst
project
does
not
move
forward.
We've
hit
some
kind
of
barrier,
then
it's
decided
that
it's
not
going
to
happen,
okay
and
assuming
that
what
will
be
the
risk
and
benefits
of
each
of
these
entities
moving
forward
independently?
N
Okay,
because
we've
already
heard
about
some
of
the
work
that
everyone's
been
working
on
independently
right.
So
we've
heard
from
the
public
library
to
produce
this
nice
timeline
for
us
of
all
of
their
efforts
that
have
gone
into
looking
at
expanding
different
locations
and
how
they're,
at
their
current
point
of
looking
at
expanding
in
their
current
location.
We
also
heard
from
connect
transit,
that's
going
to
be
doing
their
own
feasibility
studies
and
looking
at
three
potential
sites
in
downtown
Bloomington.
We
heard
about
what
their
process
is
likely
to
be
like.
N
So
we've
heard
about
all
of
these
independent
things
and
so
now
again,
assuming
that
the
catalyst
project
is
not
moving
forward.
What
are
the
risks
and
benefits
of
working
independently
on
these
projects,
and
this
one
we're
going
to
give
you
a
longer
period
of
time
again.
You're
gonna
have
15
minutes
like
we
did
with
our
initial
question,
and
so
I
will
ask.
J
N
O
N
Had
we
can
again
go
into
the
process
and
all
of
this
further
at
this
point
in
time,
really
what
I
want
to
do
is
use
the
limited
time.
I
have
to
go
ahead
and
ask
these
questions
and
then
I'd
be
happy
to
follow
up
with
you
answer.
Any
of
those
questions,
as
well
as
part
of
our
report,
will
include
a
record
of
the
decision-making
how
it
came
to
be
that
we
facilitated
all
of
that
information.
Given
your
questions,
we
want
to
sure
they
get
answered,
but
again,
I
have.
O
This
limited
amount
of
time
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
ask
I'm
I.
Think
that's
that's
part
of
contextualizing
in
this
work.
Knowing
who's
had
input
and
who
haven't
so
I've
heard
you
say
that
the
City
Council
didn't
have
input
into
this
process
and
rewarded
the
downtown
task
force
at
what
are
here
again.
N
And
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
about
that
more
publicly
at
a
later
point
in
time,
but
I
have
been
given
this
limited
window
and
I
haven't
asked
to
facilitate
this
in
this
manner.
So
I'd
like
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
the
questions
and
then
we'll
look
to
look
and
see
if
we
can't
even
allocate
some
additional
time
for
questions
about
process
later
on.
N
Well,
let's
go
to
stay
focused
on
these
questions
and
go
I
have
to
make
sure
we're
coming
as
much
as
possible
and
all
these
wonderful
people
that
we
have
here
in
the
room
so
bear.
If
you
can,
please
put
us
into
recess,
so
we
may
go
ahead
and
have
the
discussion
as
to
assume
you
know.
The
college
project
did
not
move
forward.
What
are
the
risks
and
benefits
of
working
independently
for.
H
A
J
J
A
J
J
Q
Okay,
so
we've
got
a
long
list
of
things,
then
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns,
but
if
they
were
all
three
of
the
projects,
we're
gonna
be
considered
separately.
One
of
the
riskier
down
is
some
or
all
of
them
may
never
get
completed.
That's
the
definite
risk
that
we
have
the
total
sum
of
all
the
individual
projects
may
be
more
expensive,
but
on
the
other
hand
they
may
be
less
expensive
because
they
combine
library
and
parking
back,
there's
going
to
be
a
very
heavy
and
expensive
ability,
so
we're
not
sure
on
that.
Q
Q
We
saw
risks
as
inefficiencies
and
possible
duplication
of
efforts
when
we're
looking
at
various
parcels
and
projects.
So
the
problem
there
and
there's
a
risk
that
none
of
these
projects
go
away.
We
mean
it
were.
If
they
don't
get
done,
we
didn't
actually
solve
the
problem,
and
so
the
problem
just
continues
to
persist,
benefits
that
we
saw
independent
projects
that
maybe
they
actually
get
done
faster
at
being
ended.
Individual
projects-
again,
we
don't
know
they
might
be
cheaper.
We
don't
know
that
one
either.
K
D
You
have
the
risk
of
losing
federal
dollars
or
the
ability
to
garner
some
of
those
without
that
partnership
with,
let's
say
the
library
or
the
city,
but
on
the
flip
side
they
love
them
more
time
to
event
event.
Additional
partners,
community
partners
where
there
that
and
health
services
are
somewhere
else
in.
D
T
We
kind
of
broke
it
down
one
by
one,
so
for
connect
we
thought
the
risks
were
potential
loss
of
funding
that
could
come
with
partnerships
benefits
could
be
that
there
are
more
sites
opening
to
explore
the
library
risk
to
be
so.
Loss
of
potential
increased
circulation,
many
of
may
or
may
not
connected
benefits.
We
be
able
to
library
move
forward
as
planned
with
the
current
trajectory,
and
that
may
lead
to
ability
to
serve
more
more
people
more
quickly
and
then
for
the
city.
T
S
O
N
N
So
one
thing
that's
come
up
about
this
and
a
question
that's
been
posed
is
the
process
that
came
about
or
how
this
occasion
came
to
be
and
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity,
as
they
asked
the
last
question
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
because
in
part,
oh
along
with
that
history
is
actually
an
offer
to
help.
So
the
reason
this
came
to
be.
N
Actually,
it
was
because
I
was
at
the
downtown
task
force
and
listening
to
the
record
and
the
ideas
that
were
being
shared
at
one
of
their
meetings
and
I
had
actually
suggested
to
connect
transit
that
they
consider
facilitating
a
meeting
between
and
themselves
in
the
public
library
to
have
a
discussion
on
this
and
their
responses.
But
we
don't
have
a
facilitator.
We
can
afford
and
I
said,
I
will
do
it
for
free
and
let
me
see
if
I
can't
recruit
debhelper
Evans,
who
also.
N
At
that
point,
in
time,
we
drafted
a
link,
the
email
in
which
we
explained.
How
will
you
in
conducting
feasibility
study,
including
that
we
even
do
a
survey?
We
would
facilitate
the
joint
meeting
that
we
would
provide
a
final
report
after
the
fact
to
those
groups,
and
we
asked
them
if
they
would
want
to
engage
in
that
process
and
to
please
let
us
know
in
that
very
initial.
N
You
know
we
made
the
pledge
that
I'm
still
going
to
make
here
to
you
today,
which
is
that
we
both
work
with
fabulous
groups
of
students
who
like
to
work
by
doing
rather
than
just
listening
to
their
professor
stand
and
talk
to
them
about.
What's
going
on,
we
both
are
headed
in
action,
research,
experiential
learning
capacities
and
I.
N
You
know,
I
was
fine
working
on
information
gathering,
resource
development,
facilitating
focus
groups;
everything
else
like
that.
I
decided
group
of
my
students
to
work
on
that
this
Wester
to
help
aid.
Whatever
project
is
chosen.
Whatever
direction
is
that
people
choose
to
pursue.
We
are
willing
to
do
that.
N
We
made
that
pledge
in
our
additional
email
and
Deb
and
I
are
here
again
to
reiterate
our
willingness
to
do
so,
no
matter
the
outcome
that
were
wanting
and
willing
to
support
your
efforts,
because
one
thing
that
has
become
clear
in
this
meeting
is
that
there's
a
lot
more
information
that
everybody
needs.
I,
think
that
that
is
one
thing
everybody
can
agree
on
is
that
more
information
would
be
helpful
for
either
the
projects
moving
independently.
I
N
Of
the
history
and
actually
what
we
went
to-
and
one
thing
I
forgot
to
finalize
in
that
discussion
of
the
process
is
after
we
went
to
those
two
boards.
It
was
their
suggestion
that
we
actually
invite
City
Council
to
the
meeting
as
well.
So
that's
when
we
decided
to
make
the
offer
to
City
Council
to
do
it
as
a
large
joint
meeting
amongst
all
of
us
and
that
offer
was
made
from
that
point
in
time.
N
Deb
and
I
then
designed
the
study,
the
survey,
all
of
which
what
we
did
is
we
clean
through
tons
of
the
public
records
and
reports
that
all
of
you
can
do.
The
public
library
has
an
amazing
section
on
their
website
about
all
of
their
building
and
everything
they've
done
to
do
that.
The
task
force
has
issued
their
report,
which
is
very
detailed
and
provides
information.
I
also
looked
at
the
last
20
minutes
from
the
Public
Library
and
City
Council.
N
All
of
these
are
the
things
that
we
looked
at
and
evaluated
to
develop
and
ask
the
questions
we
did
in
the
survey
as
well
as
what
we
did
here
today.
Whenever
we
circulated
the
survey,
we
did
provide
some
basic
information
with
the
survey
which
included
the
downtown
task
force
report,
the
joint
meeting
minutes
from
the
genomic
library
and
City
Council,
as
well
as
the
library's
long-term
vision
planning,
because
it
outlines
what
their
hopes
were
and
they
were
looking
forward
to
their
future.
N
So
those
are
the
things
that
we
did
provide
as
you've
heard
from
Connect
transit
themselves.
They
did
not
have
that
point
of
any
feasibility
studies
or
anything
else
to
be
able
for
us
to
include
in
that,
but
then
they
were
able
to
provide
us
bad
information
here
tonight
as
to
what
they
were
looking
at
and
what
they
perceive
to
be
their
next
steps.
So
the
last
and
final
question
in
the
five
minutes
that
we
have
left
and
what
I
would
ask
you
to
do
in
honor
of
time.
N
N
J
J
K
N
Know
we've
asked
you
to
give
us
a
list,
but
we
favor
quite
not
for
the
public's
benefit.
You
report
that
out
real
time
quickly
to
the
group
of
additional
information
that
you
need,
so
we
can
get
out
of
here
by
7:30
one
question
that
was
brought
up
and
raised
just
as
a
point
of
clarification
on
the
survey
that
was
sent
out.
N
The
survey
was
set
out
only
to
the
attendees
of
this
meeting,
so
the
board
of
trustees
for
the
library
board
of
directors
for
Connect
transit
and
the
City
Council
members,
and
that
is
who
the
survey
I
went
out
to
and
included
the
mayor
and
the
survey
was
answered
anonymously.
I
have
no
idea
how
any
one
particular
individual
responded
to
the
survey.
All
information
regarding
the
survey
will
be
reported
out
in
the
aggregate,
so
you
have
that
information.
Okay,
so
quickly
go
Cheney.
Keep
it
exciting.
All
dramatic.
Q
Q
And
you
know,
especially
if
we
get
federal
dollars
for
a
catalog
project,
we
said
we
would
like
to
see
some
research
that
shows
other
communities
that
have
done
similar
projects
where
we
combined
things
like
a
library
and
a
Transit
Center,
or
something
of
that
nature
or
a
library
in
the
downtown
to
see.
Did
it
actually
act
as
a
catalyst
in
those
communities?
Q
I
mean
that
was
the
goal
that
did
it
work
right
and
then
we
said
we'd
like
to
see
comprehensive
funding
lists
of
what's
available,
that
we
could
possibly
go
after
for
each
individual
sector,
so
their
federal
funding,
state
funding
and
other
grants
available
where
those
funding.
What
is
that
full
funding
picture
of
what's
possible?
Look
like
we
thought
this.
K
D
Okay,
Alex
we're
doing
it
here
again.
Some
are
the
additional
items
we
had
is
expert
advice
and
input.
So
due
diligence
items
from
engineers,
architects
and
things
like
that,
I'm
also,
a
business
skill
set
in
regards
to
greater
vetting
of
downtown
ideas
and
projects,
I,
haven't
occurred
or
proposed
and
specifically
is
empowering
our
city
staff
to
do
what
they
have
been
hired
and
paid
to
do
and
city
council
by
in
regards
to
funding
collaboration
and
capital
improvement
projects.
Great.
N
J
N
P
Clicking
what
about
state
routes?
What
in
fact
they
don't
happen
that
the
connector
then
to
an
overall
plan
and
along
with
that,
what
about
properties
adjacent
to
the
site
plans
for
those
long-term
one
question:
how
much
do
you
invest
before
you
get
to
one
patient
needs
a
referendum?
How
much
might
get
walk
into
it
to
even
get
it
to
a
point
of
getting
to
the
public
input,
and
maybe
the
most
salient
question
was:
are
these
groups
interested
we
have.