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December 11, 2017 - City Council Special Session
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B
Oh
dear
okay,
we
do
have
under
public
comment.
We
have
one
person
signed
up
for
public
comment
and
just
to
clarify
for
public
comment.
You
have
up
to
three
minutes.
We
don't
respond
if
you
do
want.
Back-And-Forth
you're
certainly
welcome
to
come
to
my
and
mayor's
open
house,
or
we
have
a
town-hall
meeting
tomorrow.
We
had
one
last
week
we
have
a
series
of
them,
but
the
mayor's
open
houses
are
every
Friday
before
on
Monday
City
Council
meeting,
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
forth
and
possibly
directly
solve
problems.
B
C
I
record
the
council,
why
public
comments
happening?
So
that's
what
I'm
doing
today,
I
I'm
just
here
to
ask
you
not
to
break
the
law
of
this
evening.
There
was
a
violation
on
August
28,
a
violation
of
state
law,
I've
emailed
all
of
you
about
it.
I'm
asked
at
a
mayor's
town
hall.
Meeting
I
didn't
receive
an
answer.
In
fact,
I
was
attacked
or
I
was
tried.
The
subject
was
trying
to
be
changed
to
make
it
something
that
it
wasn't
so
I'm
still
waiting
for
an
answer
that
answer
doesn't
come.
C
I
guess:
I'll
have
to
go
through
the
courts,
which
is
nice
for
the
citizens
to
have
to
go
through
the
court,
since
they
don't
have
the
money
or
the
attorneys
that
the
council
has,
but
it
seems
to
be
the
only
way
that
we
can
get
heard
it's
to
go
through
a
court
of
law.
There
was
a
legal
violation
in
the
vote
that
happened
on
August
26.
If
you
look
at
Illinois
state
law,
you'll
see
what
that
violation
was
those
of
you
that
voted.
You
broke
the
law.
C
You
also
broke
the
law
when
you
did
your
oath.
The
majority
of
you,
not
all
of
you,
but
the
majority
of
you,
you
broke
the
law,
and
so,
when
you
tell
me,
I
have
three
minutes
to
come
up
here
and
speak
and
I
put
this
in
emails.
All
of
you
is
that
a
law
do
I
have
to
by
that
law
our
laws
only
for
the
citizens
of
the
town
or
they
for
council
as
well,
because
it
seems
to
me
there's
a
lot
of
things
going
on
that.
C
Aren't
legal
and
they're
not
being
done
by
the
citizens,
they're
being
done
by
the
council
Terry.
You
talked
about
there's
no
responding
during
public
comment,
but
you
have
responded
during
public
comment.
You've
responded
when
someone
has
read
an
ordinance
to
you.
Unfortunately,
you
get
to
break
the
rules
if
there
are
any
real
rules,
because
apparently
there
aren't
things
that
are
illegal
are
done
by
this
council
and
no
no
one
is
paying
attention
because
you
make
it
emotional
and
you
make
it
about.
D
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
move
right
along
then
to
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
this
evening,
and
that
is
presentation
of
downtown
wayfinding
design
concept
and
we
have
a
presentation
by
our
interim
city
manager,
Steve
Rasmussen,
Barbara,
Martin
and
Beth
Whiston
and
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
them.
They're
approximately
ten
minute
presentation,
followed
by
approximately
20
minute
council
discussion.
Thank.
E
You
very
much
mayor
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
have
worked
long
and
hard
with
committee
and
with
our
wayfinding
architects
for
many
months.
We
also
have
a
recent
a
great
deal
of
public
comment
about
this,
and
the
chairman
of
that
committee
is
a
Beth,
Whisman
I'm,
going
to
ask
you
to
come
forward
as
a
podium
now
and
introduce
the
subject.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
F
You
we
started
on
this
project
with
a
pretty
simple
request.
Please
help
us
create
better
parking
signs
so
that
our
out-of-town
guests
could
find
their
way
to
the
parking
deck
that
we
are
lucky
to
have
in
the
downtown
and
based
on
feedback
at
the
Museum
at
the
visitor
center,
in
particular
our
international
guests,
we're
just
having
a
hard
time
figuring
out
where
to
park,
so
they
could
spend
more
time
downtown.
F
So
we
went
through
the
public
bid
process
and
we
had
a
lot
of
companies
who
put
in
for
this.
This
bid
and
this
design
project
and
KMA
was
the
company
that
we
went
with
because
they
really
seemed
to
get
what
it
was
that
we
were
looking
for
and
we're
pretty
tough
on
their
assessment
of
our
entry
points
into
downtown.
What
we
did
not
have,
but
also
they
had
the
vision
of
what
they
hoped
and
what
we
hope
to
see.
F
So
we
have
come
to
a
point
where
we're
ready
to
show
you,
after
a
lot
of
public
input
and
a
lot
of
meetings
and
discussion,
what
we
hope
the
future
of
our
wayfinding
looks
like
so
I'm
going
to
introduce
Barbara
Martin.
She
is
the
CEO
of
kma
and
David
Kasich.
Who
is
the
president
and
they're
going
to
walk
you
through
the
process
of
how
we
arrived
here
and
give
you
a
look
at
what
the
new
wayfinding
we
hope
will
look
like.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
I
have
a
brief
presentation
that
just
kind
of
gives
you
an
overview
of
where
we
are
with
the
revised
Design
Concepts.
Part
of
our
goal,
of
course,
was
community
input
with
the
second
round,
as
well
as
what
was
the
context
that
these
designs
should
take
on
and
also
is
it
a
historic
value
that
we
want
to
have
that
would
complement
the
community
looking
at
things
like
colors
fonts
details
and
how
they
relate
to
the
architecture
of
the
city,
we
had
three
different
options
that
were
presented
to
the
public.
G
One
was
the
Art
Deco
concept
that
had
been
seen
previously
without
a
tagline
on
it.
The
second
was
a
historic
option
in
the
teal
or
kind
of
the
greenish
blue
color,
and
then
the
third
was
that
same
option.
That
was
a
historic
in
nature,
but
it
was
more
in
a
rushed
color
palette.
There
were
several
locations
that
the
staff
and
the
committee
were
kind
enough
to
place
options
for
us
throughout
the
community.
G
Then
there
was
the
question
of
which
color
palette
would
be
preferred,
so
we
did
have
a
split
on
this,
but
nevertheless
the
majority
selected
the
appeal
option
or
kind
of
that
historic,
blue
65%
to
35%
with
regard
to
that
color
palette.
So
the
first
sign
type
that
I
wanted
to
review
with
you
that
was
on
the
presentation.
Boards
is
the
major
gateway
arch.
This
is
a
conceptual
drawing
of
how
this
might
look
during
the
day
as
you
enter
into
the
city,
it
kind
of
really
places
you
within
the
downtown.
G
We
looked
at
things
like
utilizing
brick,
which
was
something
that
the
public
wanted
to
see.
That
was
really
more
contextual.
With
the
downtown
architecture,
so
this
arch
kind
of
really
grandly
provides
you
a
sense
of
place
and
would
pull
you
into
that
area
of
town.
This
is
an
illumination
or
an
evening
rendering
of
this
and
how
this
might
look.
So
the
intent
of
this
is
that
the
lettering
would
all
be
white
illumination,
and
then
you
see
a
subtle
halo
that
goes
around
the
entire
sign
near
the
black
border.
G
That
would
be
just
kind
of
a
very
soft
light,
but
it
still
provide
wash
on
to
that
chill
color
so
that
you
would
get
some
illumination
in
the
evening.
The
secondary
gateways
are
the
smaller
areas
where
we
would
have
less
right-of-way
or
spacing
so
there's
two
sign
types
shown
on
this
slide.
The
one
on
the
left
would
be
found
along
any
other
entrance
road
that
wasn't
that
major
or
prominent,
but
nevertheless
it
would
be
very
visible.
So
we
have
the
image
on
the
left.
G
Again,
you
see
commonalities
in
materials,
how
they
kind
of
the
Victorian
traditional
post,
look
and
that
kind
of
stamp
with
the
curved
top
and
sides.
That
then
reflects
back
to
the
archway
and
then
you'll,
see
in
the
wayfinding
signage
as
well,
for
the
sign
on
the
right
would
be
an
LED
or
an
electronic
message
display
board
typical,
say
in
front
of
this
building.
So
it
would
provide
you
with
an
opportunity
to
put
up
messaging
council
meetings,
those
sorts
of
things.
G
Then
we
get
into
wayfinding,
which
was
really,
as
I
said,
the
key
to
how
this
program
really
started
for
you
and
that
then
goes
into
a
whole
different
sign
family.
These
become
the
wayfinding
directionals
for
vehicular
traffic
and
pedestrian
traffic,
but
provides
you
with
input
on
primary
destinations
to
really
try
to
circulate
particularly
tourists
or
those
who
aren't
familiar
with
the
community
to
and
from
different
destinations.
So
we
have
a
variety
of
scientists.
G
You
may
have
a
single
panel
of
wayfinding
sign
like
you
see
on
the
right,
or
you
can
have
a
double
panel,
depending
on
how
many
messages
or
what
the
decision
point
is
and
how
many
directions
you
would
have
to
go.
We
are
bound
by
the
manual
for
uniform
traffic
and
old
devices,
which
is
a
federal
mandated
law
on
fonts
and
arrow
placement.
So
you'll
see
that
looks
a
little
different
from
the
fonts
that
we
used
on
the
gateway
finds,
but
nevertheless
this
is
what
the
code
mandates.
G
So
that's
why
you're
seeing
a
change
in
that
particular
style
we'd
also
look
at
parking
signs
and
then
for
more
of
a
pedestrian
orientation,
small
or
tagged
signs.
That
would
also
then
be
able
to
either
be
placed
on
a
pole
at
a
lower
level
if
you're
viewing
it
as
a
pedestrian
and
then
it
acts
as
an
accent
like
on
the
left
side,
where
you
have
the
double
panels,
just
reinstating
the
word:
downtown
blurt
words,
I'm,
sorry,
downtown
Bloomington,
then
with
a
photoshopped
image.
G
This
would
give
you
an
idea
of
the
scale
of
one
of
the
wayfinding
signs
and
also
what
the
placement
would
be
with
regard
to
traffic
flow.
The
signs
are
high
enough
up
to
allow
for
head
clearance.
They
meet
code
requirements
with
right,
right-of-ways
and
set
box,
and
then
they
also
then
provide
for
visibility
so
that,
if
you're
in
a
van
or
a
large
truck,
it's
not
going
to
block
individuals
who
are
in
a
smaller
car
from
being
able
to
read
them,
so
that
elevation
also
helps
them
with
visibility.
G
The
cap
height
is
also
dictated
by
the
federal
government
for
City
community
signage,
so
we
have
minimum
standards
for
how
large
the
type
can
be,
and
what
that
then
does
is
limit.
The
amount
of
messages
that
each
sign
panel
can
have
so
with
that
we
have
a
full-scale
mock-up
of
one
of
the
wayfinding
signs.
I
think
it
might
help
actually
convey
what
it
is
that
we're
looking
at
it's
going
to
seem
extremely
large
to
you
in
here,
but
when
you
saw
that
rendering
of
the
photo
saw
it
gives
you
a
little
different
feel.
G
H
G
I
J
Just
say
that
these
make
me
happy,
even
if
I
did
vote
for
the
rest
color,
because
this
is
if
somebody
who's
been
downtown
for
so
many
years
with
the
business.
The
amount
of
questions
that
we
have
answered
for
people
who
are
lost
wandering
around
downtown
trying
to
figure
things
out.
This
will
solve
a
lot
of
problems.
Of
course,
the
giant
piece
for
parking
solved
a
lot
of
problems
at
the
same
time
where
we
started
from
that
was
the
biggest
big
huge
problem,
but
this
will
solve
many
issues.
J
I
think
that
we
have
I
just
as
a
random
aside
for
people.
This
is
not
for
people
who
live
in
town.
This
is
for
people
who
don't
live
in
town
right
and
just
to
give
you
an
example
of
that.
A
lady
came
into
my
store
last
week
and
she
was
in
town
from
Alabama
to
see
that
Kenny
Rogers
concert.
So
we
have
visitors
come
in
the
Bloomington
who
don't
know
where
things
are,
and
this
is
for
them.
So.
B
I
did
have
somebody
kind
of
in
the
reverse.
Russian
say:
why
are
you
doing
this?
Any
damn
fool
knows
where
the
BCP
a
is
so,
but
but
by
and
large,
it's
not
for
those
of
us
who
are
necessarily
here
who
know
where
these
landmarks
are.
It
is
for
people
especially
route
66
traffic
and
others
that
we
want
to
to
come
downtown
or
Arthur
coming
for
Kenny,
Rogers
or
whatever
other
event.
We
might
have
well.
J
B
Right
and,
and
certainly
if
you
go
through
most
any
city,
you
have
signs
like
any
city
of
our
size
or
springfield.
You've
got
lots
of
monuments,
even
if
you've
been
there
many
times.
You
still
have
signs
that
directly
to
monuments
that
were
converted
to
places
and
locations
and
I'm
sure
crystal
Howard
for
convention
Visitors
Bureau
can
tell
you
that
signage
is
probably
at
least
a
fairly
important
thing,
but
other
city
manager
or
city
managers
hit
not
Hills.
Sorry
rust,
isn't
he's
old.
E
Habits
die
hard,
I
know.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mayor
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
this
is
for
information
now,
but
we
will
put
it
on
their
agenda
to
vote
next
Oh
week.
That
way,
do
you
have
a
week
to
get
some
comment
back
by
anyone
you
wanted,
and
so
we're
not
ask
you
to
make
a
decision
tonight,
we'll
put
it
on
the
regular
agenda
for
next
week.
G
Had
looked
at
our
original
concepts
prior
to
the
one
that
ended
up
being
silver,
we
explored
some
other
colors
like
just
to
kind
of
keep
that
continuity,
but
red
is
really
kind
of
a
glaring
color
when
you
use
it
in
a
large
amount.
So
that's
why,
if
you
looked
at
the
two
options
that
we
provided
under
the
historic
context,
we
actually
wanted
to
play
off
of
that,
but
we
added
a
color.
G
That
was
a
little
bit
less
intense,
so
it
was
more
of
the
rough
color
palette,
but
still
that
wasn't
favored
by
the
the
populous
they
preferred
kind
of
the
green
in
the
teal
scheme,
which
does
have
a
historic
venue
to
it.
I
mean
there's
a
value
to
it.
If
you
go
back
even
your
Lincoln
signage,
that's
located,
you
know
the
historic
markers
they
have.
G
They
utilize
like
a
lighter
shade
of
teal,
that's
kind
of
faded,
but
it
still
relates
to
that,
and
that
is
also
a
very
complementary
color
with
brick,
and
you
have
a
lot
of
bricks.
So
it
stands
out
a
little
bit
more
than
what
red
might
be
red.
It
is
very
intense,
so
that
was
that
was
kind
of
the
idea
behind
that
other.
E
B
Thanks
and
thank
you
all
right,
thank
you
out.
Okay,
we
move
right
along
to
presentation.
Discussion
of
employee
satisfaction
survey
results.
We
start
out
with
a
brief
presentation
by
dr.
lust
from
Illinois
State
University
and
Nicole
Albertson,
our
human
resources
director
about
15
minutes
and
about
a
15
minute
consultation
and
Thank
You
Nicole,
and
welcome
back
dr.
left.
D
I,
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time
with
introductions
sounds
like
you
all
remember
who
dr.
lust
is
from
Illinois
State
just
want
to
thank
you
again
for
his
involvement
and
participation
in
running
the
data
analytics
for
us
in
presenting
the
results
to
you.
They
do
this
free
of
charge
and
they
use
the
data
in
their
graduate
program
for
their
classes
to
run
their
analytics,
and
so
we
really
great
greatly
value.
The
partnership
we
have
now
I
will
say
publicly
can
tie
that
he
is
retiring
return.
I
D
Worked
with
dr.
West
for
15
years,
and
and
so
hopefully
we
will
have
somebody
at
ISU
that
can
can
take
take
the
reins
over
after
he
leaves
for
us,
but
I
will
remind
you.
This
is
our
second
overall
employee
satisfaction
survey.
So
he
will
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
how
it
compares
to
the
results
that
we
saw
the
first
time.
I
B
I
I
We
used
an
online
survey
instrument
that
we've
got
at
ISU
Qualtrics
to
collect
the
data.
Qualtrics
is
so
easy,
it
is
an
online
platform.
You
can
use
a
phone,
you
can
use
a
tablet.
You
can
use
a
laptop
any
way
you
want
to
access
it.
We
just
send
out
a
link.
People
hit
the
link
and
away
you
go.
So
it's
a
very
easy
kind
of
a
process.
What
we
had
in
2015
was
about
a
33
percent
response
rate.
I
At
that
time
we
noted
two
things.
We
said
that
we
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
take
a
look
survey
again
in
two
years,
so
we
could
get
a
baseline
developed
and
we
also
said
that
it
would
probably
make
sense
to
go
ahead
and
split
out.
The
seasonal
employees
from
the
full-time
employees
gives
us
a
little
bit
better
look
at
response
rates.
Those
types
of
things,
so
we
followed
our
own
recommendations
and
in
fact
that
was
what
we
did.
So
we
did
seasonal
employees,
beginning
of
September
that
went
out
to
405
folks,
obviously
September.
I
We
probably
lost
some
of
the
summer
folks
who
had
gone
back
to
school
or
whatever,
but
we
got
about
a
20
percent
response
rate
from
that
group
and
then
followed
up
at
the
end
of
September
and
beginning
of
October
with
the
full-time
employees
and
got
about
a
31
percent
response
rate.
Their
surveys
were
very
very
similar,
so
it
allows
us
to
potentially
make
a
lot
of
different
comparisons.
I
Nicole
and
I
talked
about
the
fact
that
we
could
have
done
this
in
about
a
four
hour
presentation,
I'm,
giving
a
final
at
seven.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
for
hours
about
ten,
more
minutes,
but
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
look
at
the
data
we're
starting
to
get
enough
compiled.
Now
that
we
can
make
some
comparisons.
I
We
purposely
left
surveys
the
same.
We
changed
one
question
from
the
2015
survey.
There
was
a
summary
question
that
was
a
little
bit
confusing,
so
we
reword
that
the
only
other
change
was
the
seasonal
employees.
Don't
have
benefits,
so
we
didn't
ask
them
about
benefits,
okay,
but
other
than
that
we
allowed
for
good
comparison
across
the
surveys
there.
They
were
virtually
the
same.
I
I
What
we
did
first
was
to
take
a
look
at
changes
from
the
2015
survey.
We
wanted
to
see
areas
that
moved
in
present
it
the
way
I
showed
everything,
2015,
first
van
2017,
full-time
employees
and
then
2017
seasonal
employees,
so
the
order
is,
is
always
the
same
there
good
news
is
we
had
an
awful
lot
of
areas
that
were
strong
in
15
and
stayed
strong,
had
several
questions
in
the
communication
section,
the
commitment
to
the
city
to
make
things
better
strong
down.
I
I
I
People
were
comfortable,
bringing
up
changes,
those
types
of
things
and
job
duties
were
pretty
clearly
defined
for
for
all
the
groups,
so
there
were
some
few
questions
in
there
that
were
a
little
bit
problematic
that
we'll
get
to.
But
generally
that
section
was
was
real,
strong
wellness
and
safety.
Last
time
out
was
was
quite
strong
and
again
it
that
same
pattern
held.
I
I
Finally,
section
five,
we
took
a
look
again
at
paying
benefits
as
a
reminder,
anytime,
you're,
looking
at
pay
satisfaction,
typically
you're,
looking
at
at
four
different
areas
pay
level.
The
pay
itself
raises
how
those
are
handled
benefits
and
then
a
number
of
other
structural
or
administrative
types
of
areas.
Like
communication,
those
kinds
of
things
again
same
result
that
we
had
last
time
out.
The
benefits
were
far
and
away
the
most
positive
area
in
the
in
this
part
of
the
survey.
Right
now
again,
we
didn't
ask
seasonal
employees
about
benefits.
I
I
B
I
I
I
I
Obviously,
that's
a
loaded
question,
because
appropriate
for
one
person
is
going
to
be
very
different
for
another,
but
the
point
is
it
went
from
a
pretty
neutral
response
to
a
little
bit
more
negative
here,
but
again
not
for
the
seasonal
employees.
Seasonal
employees
felt,
like
things
were,
being
handled
pretty
quickly
there,
so
that
was
kind
of
interesting
and
we
saw
that
same
pattern.
There
were
some
questions
that
were
kind
of
neutral
that
the
seasonal
employees
were
pretty
positive
on.
This
was
the
means,
just
the
arithmetic
average,
so
my
department
head
is
good
at
providing
support.
I
I
So
a
couple
things
to
think
about
honestly.
If
we
hadn't
said
two
years
ago
that
we
were
going
to
do
it
now,
I
wouldn't
have
done
a
survey.
This
fall.
You
all
had
eight
contracts
that
you
negotiate
in
spring
I
think
there's
still
a
couple
that
are
pending.
So
if
you
wanted
positive
results,
we
put
it
to
about
the
most
severe
test
that
we
could
have.
I
I
From
that
situation
we
did
talk
to
a
couple
groups
already
Nicole
and
I
met
with
the
employee
council
for
a
couple
hours
before
Thanksgiving,
we
talked
to
them
about
the
response
rates
running
around
30
percent
and
they
had
some
good
ideas
on
things
that
could
happen
to
try
to
increase
that.
We
took
a
look
at
some
of
the
reasons
why
seasonal
employees
tended
to
be
more
positive
all
the
way
through
than
the
full-time
employees,
and
then
we
did
look
at
eight
or
ten
questions
that
had
lower
response
rates
or
not.
I
Excuse
me
more
negative
response
rates.
They
had
some
good
ideas,
so
we've
put
together
kind
of
a
priority
list
of
actions
that
Nicole
is
going
to
work
with
in
spring
to
see
if
we
can
bring
up
some
of
those
negative
areas,
so
that
was
I,
think
positive
meeting.
We
did
also
meet
with
the
directors
for
about
an
hour
and
a
half
talked
about
their
different
areas
and
they
had
some
good
ideas
also,
so
these
results
are
already
out.
I
If
we
feel
like
there's
been
some
changes,
it
might
not
hurt
in
May
or
June
to
come
back
and
just
do
a
quick
one-page
survey
do
eight
or
ten
questions
to
see
if
we're
getting
shifts
in
the
communication
area.
Again,
I'll
still
be
around
I
can
do
that
for
you,
since
I
haven't
charged
you
a
dime,
yet
that
one's
free
too,
so
we
don't
need
to
worry
about
it,
but
that
way
it
would
give
an
indication
of
whether
or
not
the
changes
are
starting
to
take
effect.
I
I
would
close
with
the
same
summer
I
had
and
in
2015
most
certainly
there's
some
negatives
in
here.
There's
always
negatives,
but
really
there's
an
awful
awful
lot
of
positives
at
play
here.
So
I
would
feel
pretty
good
about
where
you're
at
in
terms
of
the
employer
relations
side
of
things
sure
like
to
get
those
survey
response
rates
up
about
30%,
but
we've
got
some
ideas
not
on
on
doing
things
so
with
all
of
to10.
Time
is
up.
What
do
you
want
to
know?
Questions.
A
I
Demographics,
we
could
get
at
and
we
talked
about
in
2015
because
there
hadn't
been
a
survey
for
10
years.
We
really
didn't
want
to
collect
too
much
in
case
employees
had
concerns
about
being
identified.
So
all
we
collected
was
Department
area
they
worked
in
and
we
decided
for
this
time
around
to
go
ahead
and
do
the
same
thing.
So
we
didn't
ask
about
union
affiliation.
J
Not
here
so
I
get
to
altar
woman
take
so
I.
My
question
was
you
just
mentioned
that
we
know
what
department
it
was
and
I
was
curious
on
the
ones
that
the
questions
that
dealt
with
safety
and
specifically
the
one
that
says
like
my
supervisor-
cares
about
my
safety.
If
there
were
like
certain
departments
that
that
was
an
issue
while.
I
Fine
now,
actually
the
there
was
one
department
that
was
a
little
bit
troubling
kind
of
across
the
board,
but
generally
most
of
the
departments
were
were
pretty
similar
and
pretty
good.
So
on
on
the
safety
side
of
things
generally
I,
don't
remember
a
lot
jumping
out.
That
was
the
problematic,
because.