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February 19, 2018 - City Council Special Session
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A
A
B
B
A
You
very
much
and
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
with
public
comment.
You
know,
just
as
I
usually
do
to
remind
people
that
we
don't
respond.
But
if
you
want
immediate
responses,
you
can
always
make
an
appointment
with
me
in
the
mayor's
open
house
and
that's
Friday
before
every
Monday.
City
Council
meeting
doesn't
have
to
be
something
that's
on
the
agenda
or
if
you
want
a
specific
problem
answered
or
you
can
call
or
text
any
of
us
at
any
point.
A
C
When
what
and
and
also,
why
is
it
that
bar
owners,
people
that
are
using
these
video
gaming
machines
to
make
revenue
the
constant
target
of
the
council,
as
well
as
the
city
for
for
taking
more
money,
I,
think
that
you
all
probably
have
seen
the
numbers
of
over
the
past
five
years?
It's
over
three
million
dollars
the
city
has
taken
in
simply
from
the
video
gaming
machines
last
year,
was
three-quarters
of
a
million
dollars
$750,000?
C
What?
What
is
enough?
What
what
at
what
point?
Do
we
finally
say
that
we've
taken
enough
or
we
get
enough
from
that-
why
we
work
in
it
in
an
industry
that
is
constantly
inundated
with
new
places
that
we're
having
to
fight
for
every
dollar
that
we
make,
and
this
is
a
source
of
revenue
for
all
of
us,
that
we
we
use
to
do
things
in
our
business
to
hire
people
to
hire
quality
people.
C
What
is
it
that
when
does
this?
Stop?
That's
not
just
from
that
business
owner
side,
but
that's
one!
That's
from
a
citizen!
What
else
can
we
tax?
Why
not
and
aren't
there
different
ways
that
this
can
be
adjusted
and
found
I
can
think
of
Huntley
I'm.
Sorry,
mr.
Matthew
I
know
you
own
a
store
here
in
town.
What,
if
we
charged
you
for
every
stand
that
you
had
in
town
in
your
store
or
your
wife
owns
the
bakery,
what
if
it
was
for
every
seat
and
her
store
every
even.
A
C
D
Bob
work
man
good
evening,
daddy,
helping
Kathryn,
Steinle,
desperate
plea
to
her
father.
She
lay
on
a
pier
in
San
Francisco,
mortally
wounded
from
a
bullet
fired
from
a
gun
in
the
hands
of
Jose
Inez
Garcia's
a
rate'
and
the
only
go
undocumented
person
who
had
been
deported
five
times
and
had
seven
felony
convictions
in
the
United
States
March
26
2015,
at
the
request
of
San
Francisco
Sheriff's
Department
of
the
you
know,
dates
in
the
United
States
Bureau
of
Prisons.
It
turns
arathi
over
to
San
Francisco
San
Francisco
authorities
were
an
outstanding
drug
warrant.
D
San
Francisco
officials
transported
Zarate
to
San
Francisco
County
Jail,
upon
completion
of
his
latest
prison
term,
US
immigration
and
custom
informants
enforcement.
I
seee
had
issued
a
detainer
for
Zarate
requesting
that
he
be
kept
in
custody
until
immigration
could
pick
him
up.
However,
because
the
rotties
charges
did
not
meet
the
criteria
that
san
francisco
had
established
for
their
sanctuary
city
ordinance.
They
disregarded
that
detainer
requested
by
IC
e
and
released
him
from
the
san
francisco
county
jail
less
than
three
months
later.
Zarate
gun
in
hand
accidentally
going
off
not
once
but
three
times
with.
D
D
I
repeat:
I
am
not
inferring
that
all
those
entering
our
country
illegal
are
bad
people,
but
unfortunately
there
are
bad
people
crossing
our
borders
with
them
myself,
as
well
as
many
of
the
citizens
of
Bloomington
would
prefer
that
these
bad
people
are
caught
and
deported
before
a
serious
crime
is
committed
in
our
city,
not
afterwards
the
u.s.
immigration
customer
informants
enforcement
can
and
do
help
with
identifying
and
removing
some
of
those
bad
people
that
could
migrate
to
our
city.
No
ordinance
should
be
passed
that
would
interfere
with
interaction
of
local
law
enforcement
in
u.s.
D
immigration,
custom
and
custom
enforcement.
Our
police
chief
has
communicated
to
all
of
you
that
adoption
of
any
ordinance
hindering
the
interaction
with
IC
would
cause
problems,
congressman
painter,
Malabo,
a
sage
beret
and
Smith
I,
as
well
as
the
silent
majority
of
the
residents
of
Bloomington.
Thank
you
for
having
the
courage
to
remove
the
welcoming
city
ordinance
from
the
agenda.
I
am
certain
that
if
Kathryn
Steinle
's
family
were
here
today,
they
would
agree
with
me.
Thank
you.
E
I've
done
a
bowline
I'm
here
to
talk
about
some
of
the
tax
increases
that
are
being
proposed.
I'm
well
aware
of
the
financial
situation,
but
I
do
want
to
address
some
of
the
regressive
taxes
like
the
utility
tax.
That's
going
to
be
used,
apparently
for
O'neal
pool
and
I
just
want
to
reference
this
chart
again.
E
This
is
the
median
income.
Okay,
this
is
the
poverty
level
50%
of
the
people
live
below
the
median
income
and
every
time
a
fee
in
taxes
is
raised,
their
discretionary
income
and
decrease
the
utility
tax
being
used
for
the
pool,
perks
and
Rex
comes
under
property
taxes
and
if
you've
been
talking
about
owning
a
pool
for
quite
some
time,
text
property
taxes
to
demand
addressed
and
raised.
E
When
you
looked
at
them,
this
fall
the
local
motor
fuel
tax,
also
in
a
way
as
a
regressive
tax,
because
people
have
to
get
to
work
and
then
pay
the
tax
and
to
keep
in
mind
my
brother's,
a
truck
truck
driver
and
their
tanks
hold
500
gallons
worth
of
gas
and
in
real
time
they
have
a
group
of
people
that
track
the
price
of
gas
and
direct.
The
truckers
to
the
lowest
price,
so
they
can
fill
up
their
truck.
F
I'm
gonna
start
with
a
question
that
has
to
be
asked
today
on
the
current
downtown
business:
didn't
care
enough
about
downtown
to
fund
the
GBA.
The
city
council
took
over
the
GBA
and
hired
the
staff.
Instead,
if
the
current
businesses
downtown
didn't
care,
why
should
everybody
else
should
those
of
you
who
felt
immoral
eyes
at
the
February
12th
council
meeting
I
asked?
Can
you
imagine
how
Judy
Stearns
must
have
felt
in
2014?
F
You
sat
in
silence
while
terror
runner
for
years
demoralized
her.
Now
you
want
sympathy,
I'm,
sorry,
but
I
reserve
the
sympathy
for
the
citizens
of
Bloomington.
Let
me
remind
all
of
you
that
not
in
our
town
has
no
place
in
Bloomington
government.
Mike
Machiko
should
have
no
more
say
than
I
do
in
any
decisions
made
by
Bloomington
City
Council.
There
is
a
reason
the
citizens
of
Bloomington
voted
him
out
of
office.
The
citizens
don't
want
him.
Making
decisions
in
this
chamber.
F
I
don't
feel
like
a
victim
because
of
the
words
you
say
or
don't
say:
I
feel
like
a
victim
because
I'm
being
lied
to
and
robbed
miss
Schmidt
is
not
a
victim
she's
complicit.
She
made
her
bed
now
it's
uncomfortable
and
she
doesn't
want
to
lie
in
it.
I
hope
the
citizens
in
Bloomington
can
see
through
her.
Let's
not
confuse
her
pretend
kindness
with
her
using
us
as
political
tools.
F
Remember
she
sat
in
silence
as
Judy
Stearns
was
verbally
assaulted,
while
trying
to
protect
citizens
in
2014,
Terri
Renner
made
the
following
statements
in
his
attempt
to
belittle
undermine
and
silenced
Judy
Stearns.
He
said
what
we
are
involved
in
is
about
protecting
our
citizens
and
delivering
services
to
them
at
a
reasonable
cost.
F
He
went
on
to
say
so,
let's
be
clear
if
you
issues
such
as
health
care,
gay
marriage
and
the
physical
response,
irresponsibility
of
the
state
and
national
government
have
no
place
directly
in
what
we
are
trying
to
do
here
in
Bloomington,
the
ideological
and
partisan
invectives
are
poison.
There
are
very
few
ideological
leaders
who
are
successful
in
local
politics.
They
don't
make
it
end
quote
one
of
his
monologues.
F
At
the
last
council
meeting
Terry
said
we
have
a
moral
obligation
to
stand
up
and
do
things
and
speak
out
I'm
talking
about
people
who
want
a
wall.
The
main
point
we
need
to
start
talking
about
this
in
a
broader
sense,
we
needed
admit
we
have
an
administration
in
Washington
that
is
not
making
it
easy
for
some
people
in
principle,
it's
important
end
quote:
remember
his
words
from
2014.
There
are
very
few
ideological
leaders
who
are
successful
in
local
politics.
F
G
This
will
probably
be
one
of
my
shortest
we've
got
a
number
of
spending
issues
and
taxing
issues
on
the
agenda
for
tonight.
Going
back
to
what
first
gentlemen
said,
how
much
is
enough?
Is
there
any
limit
to
the
amount
of
money
that
this
group
of
people
are
willing
to
gouge
from
the
citizens
of
this
city?
G
A
You
know
we
move
on
to
item
number
four
on
our
excuse.
Me
item
number
four
on
our
agenda:
consideration,
discussion
and
direction
of
on
the
downtown
task
force,
recommendations
that
has
been
on
catalyst
projects
and
I'm,
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
this
over
to
a
senior
integer,
Steve,
Rasmussen
and
then
they'll
be
a
brief
president
or
excuse
me
a
little
less
than
a
little
more
than
a
brief
presentation,
I
suppose
by
up
Tricia
Stoller,
so
Steve
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Thank.
H
You
very
much
and
I'll
introduce
Tricia
still
our
downtown
division
manager
to
give
this
presentation,
but
I
wanted
to
give
a
little
introduction
and
talk
about
two
things
about
it.
Number
one
is
that
what
we
have
is
a
number
of
these
different
items
that
we've
talked
about
five
or
six
of
them
and
I
would
not
want
you
all
to
think
that
they
have
just
been
sitting.
H
A
mother
of
them
have
risen
to
the
top
because
they
do
have
ones
and
so
I'm
an
ass,
patricia
to
go
ahead
and
talk
about
that.
But
just
as
a
format
we
put
30
minutes
on
for
the
City
Council
discussion
in
30
minutes
for
Tricia,
and
we
don't
mean
for
Tricia
to
talk
for
30
minutes
and
then
have
30
minutes
for
you
to
talk.
H
A
I
Can't
do
it
without
the
help
of
these,
so
thank
you.
Everyone
for
this
opportunity
to
give
you
just
a
little
bit
of
an
update,
I'm
happy
to
be
here
and
very
happy
to
represent
our
United
efforts
as
a
staff
city
staff,
we're
all
very
eager
to
move
forward
with
your
direction.
So
thank
you
very
much
again.
I
So,
as
you
know,
the
task
force
presented
its
final
report
to
you
and
late
October
and
just
a
quick
recap.
The
task
force
combed
through
they
bring
it
on
Bloomington,
comprehensive
plan,
the
downtown
strategic
plan,
the
Main
Street
transportation
feasibility
study
and
the
downtown
streetscape
lighting
master
plan.
The
three
categories
identified
as
revitalization
priorities
were
placemaking
supportive
projects
and
catalyst
projects.
The
largest
category
was
placemaking,
which
was
then
subdivided
into
suit
to
sub
two
sub
categories.
I
This
would
not
only
enhance
the
aesthetic,
it
would
also
improve
safety
by
increasing
visibility
under
public
spaces
and
walkability
staff
has
had
initial
conversations
regarding
outdoor
gathering
spaces,
decorative
crosswalks
and
enhanced
public
spaces
we
get.
We
will
get
back
to
this
slide
in
just
a
little
bit.
I
Parking
continues
to
be
a
big
challenge
for
us,
and
further
study
will
be
conducted
to
determine
the
best
course
of
action
being
reviewed.
Currently
is
the
feasibility
of
increasing
the
number
of
diagonal
spaces
on
main
and
center
streets
and
creating
a
cooperative
shared
use
policy
for
existing
surface
parking.
Lots
under
areas
of
opportunity
being
reviewed
include
enhancing
our
transitional
corridors,
which
are
very
important
per
the
Main
Street
corridor
study.
I
Adopting
zoning
changes
to
support
downtown
redevelopment,
updating
the
aging
infrastructure,
installing
public
restrooms,
adding
on
Street,
recycled
recycling,
bins
and
improving
wayfinding
signage.
The
downtown
signage
committee
has
nearly
completed
its
task
in
that
regard.
The
sign
designs
have
been
selected
and
construction
documents
are
being
finalized.
You
can
view
a
sample
sign
on
East,
Street
I
hope.
You've
all
had
an
opportunity
to
see
that
in
place
right
across
from
the
government
Center.
It
will
be
a
great
addition
to
our
landscape
when
those
signs
are
finally
installed.
I
Permanent
recycle
bins,
Public
Works,
is
reviewing
several
options
that
are
available
to
us,
which
could
include
these
big
belly.
Solar
powered,
compacting,
bins,
cost
per
container
is
about
one
thousand
four
thousand
dollars
each.
However,
further
research
is
needed
to
identify
what
is
the
best
fit
for
our
community
public
restrooms
long
term.
Permanent
solutions
would
require
further
review.
However,
short
range
options
include
educating
the
public
as
to
where
current
restroom
facilities
are
located,
and
that
would
include
the
government
Center,
the
library,
First,
Christian,
Church,
the
Museum
of
History
and
so
on.
I
In
keeping
with
the
taskforce
recommendations,
I
told
you
I'd
get
back
to
this
one
on
public
gathering
spaces
staff
has
examined
the
possibility
of
creating
a
pedestrian
Plaza
on
the
100
block
of
West
Jefferson
between
main
and
center
streets.
This
location
is
frequently
closed
to
through
traffic
already
to
accommodate
special
events,
which
include
our
farmers
market.
The
WGAL
t
summer
concert
various
rotary
events
like
their
pork
chop
lunch
and
they
are
brought
sandbags
tournament.
I
There
are
picnic
tables
already
installed
on
the
south
side
of
that
block,
so
it
was
the
optimal
choice
to
move
forward,
though
with
this
pilot
project.
That
was
among
the
many
recommendations
in
the
taskforce.
This
block,
however,
is
at
the
very
top
of
Public
Works
on
very
top
of
the
list
for
resurfacing
in
FY
18.
So
this
particular
action
item
is
very
time-sensitive.
We
look
to
you
for
direction
on
moving
this
item
forward.
We
would
recommend
the
use
of
pavers
or
brick
and
landscaping
that
is
complementary
to
the
Museum
of
History.
I
The
zoning
ordinance
update
is
well
underway.
A
Planning
Commission
public
hearing
is
anticipated
for
sometime
in
March,
followed
by
council
review
and
approval,
hopefully
this
summer,
and
because
we
are
always
reminded
that
we
need
to
have
robust
and
lively
activity
in
our
downtown.
I
wanted
to
have
this
visual
reminder
of
events
that
are
returning
to
downtown
for
2018.
That's,
of
course,
our
farmers
market
in
First
Fridays,
the
summer
solstice
concert
the
WGAL
to
summer
concert,
cogs
and
corsets
are
steam,
punk
happening,
which
is
exploding
into
a
three-day
conference
and
we're
very
excited
about
that.
I
Lincoln's
festival,
66,
the
Criterium
bike,
race,
Front,
Street,
Music,
Fest
and
national
parking
day,
which
was
a
really
fun
public
right
away.
Experiment
last
year
that
was
very
popular
and
we
have
some
events
and
development
that
we're
also
very
excited
about
the
outdoor
summer
concert
series
to
be
produced
by
the
castle
theater,
as
still
being
it's
in
development,
as
I
said,
we're
looking
to
solidify
and
enhance
our
relationships
with
our
community
partners,
so
we're
working
with
Western
Avenue
community
center
on
a
Cinco
DeMayo
cultural
festival
account
a
cultural
event
and
finally,
a
community
dance
cypher.
I
J
You
and
thank
you
Trisha
and
Steve
and
staff
for
everything
that's
been
done
thus
far,
so
it
occurs
to
me
that
I've
been
sitting
up
here
now
for
five
years,
and
that
seems
surreal
at
this
point
in
time.
But
in
that
half
decade
of
time
you
know
I
campaigned
in
2013
about
making
downtown
better
a
campaign
2017
about
that.
J
I
have
to
come
to
the
conclusion
that
a
lot
of
the
things
that
people
are
feeling
out
there,
true
or
not,
is
that
downtown
is
not
as
vibrant
as
they
wish
that
it
were
and
I
hear
a
lot
of.
Why
can't
the
city
just
blank
and
we
had
a
downtown
task
force?
They
made
some
recommendations
and
some
of
them
were
quite
controversial,
but
I
believe
that
many
of
them
were
not
and
so
on.
January
9th
I
had
sent
an
email
to
this
group.
J
You
know
asking
for
some
some
movement
and
some
of
these
things
and
you've
touched
on
a
couple
of
them
there,
but
I
guess.
The
point
of
this
this
evening
is
I
wanted
to
see
if
there
was
council
support
or
objections
to
moving
forward
on
what
I
would
perceive
to
be
the
less
controversial
items
as
outlined
in
the
downtown
task
force
recommendation
when
we're
talking
things
like
send.
A
resolution
to
the
state
ask
them
for
more
federal
funding
for
through
I
dot
for
Main
Street
corridor
projects.
I,
don't
know
why
we
can't
whip
that
up.
J
No
problem,
you
know
re-examining
our
you
know.
Zoning
I
saw
come
up
here
very
important
stuff
I,
like
that.
That's
in
process,
I,
don't
want
the
city
to
be
a
hindrance
on
things
happening.
I'll
just
illustrate
that
by
saying
this
weekend
was
the
the
beers
and
bacon
festival
sold
out.
People
were
getting
turned
away.
J
How
many
people
were
that
was
supposed
to
be
there
a
couple
hundred,
maybe
even
a
thousand
tickets
sold
I
mean
people,
two
thousand
tickets
sold
people
are
craving
these
types
of
events
and
they're
craving
more
things
to
do
in
downtown
and
I.
Don't
want
to
be
the
robot
block
to
that
happening.
So
if
that
means
that
we
need
to
adjust
some
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about,
whether
it
be
that's
outlined
in
our
plan,
I
want
to
see
that
process
move
forward
and
you
would
alluded
to
closing
the
street
at
Jefferson.
You
know.
J
Maybe
a
public
hearing
is
needed
or
whatever
that
is,
and
let's
book
that
public
hearing.
Let's
get
that
on
the
books,
I
mean
we've
talked
about
closing
down
the
405
hundred
block
from
10:00
p.m.
to
2:00
a.m.
Thursday,
Friday
Saturday.
Let's
try
it
as
a
pilot
program.
I,
don't
want
to
be
sitting
up
here
for
another
five
years.
Talk
having
the
same
conversation
was
having
five
years
ago,
and
if
this
group
is
the
majority
decides
that's
not
the
direction
that
they
want
to
go.
I.
J
Think
now
is
the
time
to
voice
that
and
I
get
that
some
of
the
stuff
with
like
public
restrooms
is
gonna.
Take
some
time.
That's
gonna
require
some
things
for
us
to
do,
but
let's
get
that
roll
in
here.
As
we
talk
about
a
very
difficult
budget
cycle
it
we
can't
let
some
of
these
things
go
on
the
back
burner,
especially
when
there's
such
what
we've
talked
about
low-hanging
fruit.
Here
we
can
just,
let's
just
do
it
and
if
we're
not
into
it,
let's
talk
about
that
right
now,.
H
A
H
L
Manager,
Rasmussen
is
correct
to
add
on
to
that.
That's
a
prime
block
for
us
to
try
to
peel
off
the
asphalt
I'll
say
that,
because
in
other
parts
of
the
downtown
maintenance
center
there
action
are
different
rails
of
streetcar
rails
so
that
if
you
peel
that
up
you'd
have
streetcar
rails
there,
there
we're
not
historically
there
our
best
information,
you
know
Street
rail
car
rails
in
this
block.
This
would
be
a
great
block
to
try
that
we
talked
about.
L
We
don't
know,
though
the
condition,
but
but
it
really
is
a
prime
block
for
us
to
try
instead
of
doing
new
pavers,
which
can
be
very
expensive
for
us.
Well,
why
not
see
if
we
can
leverage
what
we
have
there
and
see
what
condition
it's
in
the
only
caveat
to
that
might
be
there.
There
might
be
some
patching
and
things
that
we
really
need
to
do
from
a
safety
perspective,
but
but
the
key
point
is
Jefferson.
Street
really
needs
some
effort.
K
K
What
would
be
the
most
beneficial
to
support
some
of
the
activities
that
you've
shared
with
us
tonight
or
reminded
us
reminded
yeah
I
shall
I
like
to
see
a
listing
and
then
and
I
know
that
you
don't
have
specific
numbers
yet,
but,
as
you
know,
potential
costs
for
those
so
that
we
could
make
some
decisions
on
how
to
move
forward.
I.
I
I
think
you're,
looking
at
it,
I
think
this
Jefferson
Street
Plaza
idea
due
to
the
fact
that
the
street
is
in
such
poor
condition
and
has
to
be
addressed
anyway.
That
would
be
the
perfect
time
so
I
I
would
put
this
as
priority
number
one,
because
it
also
speaks
to
so
many
other
topics
like
gathering
spaces
and
enhanced
opportunities
for
people
to
gather
and
enjoy
the
downtown
and
what
it
has
to
offer.
That's.
K
I
When
I
indicated
that
there
was
need
for
further
review
with
the
public
or
with
the
recycling
bins,
we
have
also
discussed
ways
that
we
could
probably
work
out
a
cooperative
arrangement,
possibly
with
the
Eco
ecology,
Action
Center
or
things
like
that.
But
what
these
conversations
just
haven't
taken
place
yet
so
we're
looking
at
other
Oliver
thanks.
H
Well,
what
I
was
gonna
suggest
is.
We
could
come
back
you
with
the
list
like
that
and
there
they're
different,
because
if
we
put
for
recycling
bins
out
for
$16,000,
it
comes
in
a
different
category
than
putting
a
park
in
place
of
Jefferson
Street,
which
might
cost
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
So
there
there
are
different
categories,
but
we'll
come
back
to
with
the
list
showing
what
the
cost
of
those
are
and
what
we
might
look
at
as
being
most
feasible
to
come
back
soon
as
I'm.
K
M
Have
questions
similar
to
alderman,
Hellmann's
and
I
think
they
have
to
do
with
process?
Are
you
asking
us?
Do
we
support
moving
ahead
on
all
of
these?
In
theory
me,
some
of
these
are
revenue
neutral.
Some
of
these
are
not
revenue.
Neutral
I
mean
do
I
support
the
downtown
yes
I.
Do
it
bothers
me?
I
have
to
say
that
it
looks
like
we're
picking
off
one
thing
at
a
time
without
having
this
is
not
you
know
not
about
the
downtown,
but
just
as
our
own
budget
process.
M
It
feels
like
we're
picking
off
one
thing
after
another,
without
really
kind
of
seeing
well,
we
haven't
had
a
conversation
about
where
we're
going
to
make
any
cuts.
We
did
last
week
and
we
didn't
necessarily
have
cuts
there,
so
we're
also
we're
gonna
have
cuts,
how
what
are
we
taking?
If
we
did
maybe
put
in
all
of
the
recycle
bins
and
it
cost
us,
you
know
$100,000
to
get
enough.
That
would
make
a
difference.
C
M
If
a
place
to
start
is
to
begin
to
prioritize
and
to
look
at
the
revenue,
neutral
ones,
first
and
then
begin
to
you
know,
play
them
off
against
other
things
and
identify
perhaps
things
that
we're
doing
that
are
lower
priority
for
us
as
a
council,
then
I'm
I'm
that
rocked
that
to
me
would
be
a
strategy.
But
this
feels
like
we're
following
these
conversations,
and
that
makes
me
very
uncomfortable.
Oh.
N
I
Haven't
looked
at
that
long-term,
we
talked
about
several
different
opportunities
to
address
them
in
the
short,
medium
and
long
range.
So
the
short
term
would
be
really
not
installing
anything
new
but
working
very
hard
to
educate
the
public
as
to
where
current
facilities
exist
for
their
use.
The
middle
range
would
be
installing
porta-potties
in
our
current
public
parking
structures,
so
those
would
be
available
for
use,
and
that
would
be
a
medium-range
solution.
As
we
look
at
the
long-term
permanent
solution
that.
I
Close
always,
though,
that's
always
the
questions
asked
who
would
who
would
monitor
those
regardless
if
it's
a
porta
potti
situation
or
if
it's
a
full-time
structure,
if
we
put
it
in
place
who,
where
would
the
management
responsibilities
lie?
And
so
these
are
ongoing.
Continuing
conversation
points
among
staff,
as
we
work
to
solidify
that
okay.
N
I
It's
a
there's,
no
exchange
of
dollars,
but
there
are
some
in-kind
services
provided
like,
for
example,
when
glt
summer
concert
needs
picnic,
tables
they're
not
charged
for
the
use
of
the
picnic
tables
closing
down
streets.
That
is
also
another
in-kind
service
that
City
provides.
So
their
sponsorship
comes
in
in
service
rather
than
in
donations
or
dollars.
Okay,.
I
N
O
P
Q
I
P
So
as
we
talked
about
giving
the
property
owners
in
the
downtown
corridor
more
flexibility
with
their
own
lighting
of
their
buildings
right.
A
lot
of
it
right
now
is
restricted
by
zoning,
and
you
know
we
could
give
people
the
ability
to
do
more
themselves.
We
don't
have
to
spend
money.
All
we
have
to
do
is
change
an
ordinance
to
allow
them
to
go
and
well
I.
Think
I
said
last
time.
I
said,
go
and
be
awesome.
P
So
if
we
get
out
of
their
way
in
several
of
these
various
instances,
you
know
we
can
do
that
as
well.
It
comes
to
mind
the
same
thing
with
the
planters
right:
do
we
necessarily
have
to
pay
for
the
planners,
or
you
know,
as
a
for
instance,
one
of
the
more
successful
little
things
that
we
did
in
the
downtown
was.
Is
the
smoking
containers
right
the
cigarette
butt
containers,
because
cigarette
butts
were
everywhere
and
those
ones?
P
We
gave
the
business
owners
the
ability
to
go
out
and
buy
the
cigarette
containers,
but
it
was
the
same
container
everywhere,
so
it
kind
of
had
a
more
unified
look
and
we
actually
ended
up
with
significant
less
trash
in
the
downtown.
Because
of
that,
so
the
planners
could
be
the
same
thing
of
here's,
the
planner
that
we're
looking
at,
and
if
you
want
one
in
front
of
your
business,
then
you
know
here's
here's!
P
How
much
that
planner
costs
I
mean
I,
don't
know
that
the
city
needs
to
pick
up
that
tab
for
that
particular
one
and
then,
as
a
final
note
on
that,
I
would
say
that
I'm
I'm,
very
supportive
of
the
Jefferson
Street
test
project
of
if
we're
going
to
repave
that
whole
street
this
week
this
year.
Now
is
the
time
to
pull
the
trigger
and
do
that
so
I
guess.
That's
all
my
comments
right
now.
Thanks
all
the
woman
Bray.
I
I
I-I've
been
a
supporter
of
the
pedestrian
Plaza,
since
we
kind
of
noodled
about
it
in
downtown
task
force
and
I
would
be
very
interested
in
seeing
some
numbers
on
that
and
in
particular
Jim,
since
we
know
that
brick
is
very
expensive.
What
are
some
modern
materials?
Some
pavers,
maybe
with
some
grass,
no
most
mortars
in
the
middle
right,
things
that
aren't
expensive
and
cost
prohibitive.
I
That
would
allow
us
to
move
forward
with
our
pedestrian
Plaza
and
maybe
one
day
we'll
do
something
different,
but
let's
just
start
small
and
and
go
forward
and
the
same
thing
with
some
of
the
other
ideas
in
the
work
of
the
downtown
task
force,
giving
some
of
the
business
owners
some
latitude
at
the
same
time,
the
city
identifying
the
actual
themed
pieces
right
for
the
planners
or
or
for
the
lighting
and
then
giving
a
little
a
little
latitude
to
the
to
the
owners
to
do
that.
I.
I
Think
again,
those
are
some
things
that
might
be
neutral,
but
but
as
we
go
forward
to
prioritize
them,
I
think
we
just
need
some
numbers
to
make
it
work
right,
but
so
I
look
forward
to
seeing
that
and
seeing
some
of
those
choices
come
forward
because
I
think
this.
This
really
would
accomplish
some
of
the
things
we're
looking
for,
which
is
creating
this
winsome
environment.
That
is,
you
know
our
cities
to
spend
a
piece
of
our
community
and
keeping
it
winsome
and
attractive
place.
That
is
an
engine
for
economic
development.
So
thank.
A
J
Of
in
black,
thank
you
and
I
think
that
this
is
mostly
accomplished
where
I
was
hoping
for.
The
conversation
would
be
this
evening
and
I
just
want
to
be
crystal
clear
and
somebody
can
object
if,
if
I'm
misunderstanding,
is
that
we're
directing
staff
to
go
back
and
take
a
look
at
these,
these
lower
tier
items
and
see
what
the
numbers
look
like
and
I'd
like
to
add
a
caveat
of,
maybe
like?
Maybe
your
Toyota
versus
a
Cadillac.
J
You
know
if
$4,000
recycling
bins,
probably
gonna,
make
some
folks
angry,
but
that's
a
lot
different
than
say
an
ecology
accident
center
partnership.
What
does
that
look
like
in
reality?
And
then
those
zoning
changes
that
we
talked
about
and
I
just
want
to
caution
us
in
terms
of
analysis,
paralysis
here,
I
mean
I,
think
we
I
don't
need
to
study
parking
again.
We
just
let's
try
something
for
this
summer,
and
if
it
doesn't
work,
we
don't
have
to
keep
going.
J
We
can
do
something
different
we
can
and
if
we
need
to
get
resolutions
from
us
to
make
that
happen,
I'd
like
to
see
those
sooner
than
later,
you
know
if
we
talked
about
making
downtown
a
park.
What
are
the
implications
of
that?
How
does
that
impact
the
downtown
overall,
because
I
think
that
we're
all
cost
sensitive,
but
we
want
to
see
something
happen
and
I
would
also
just
say
a
high
level
if
we're
going
to
be
intellectually
honest
with
ourselves
about
downtown
being
a
priority,
it's
on
our
top
five
priorities
for
the
community.
D
All
in
this
age
and
thank
you
Scott
for
clarifying
that.
Okay,
again,
maybe
just
some
additional
clarification,
I
think
there
was
mostly
what
I
heard
mostly
support
to
continue.
Looking
at
some
of
these
I
didn't
hear
a
firm
support
on
spending
money.
Yet
until
we
know
the
cost
of
these
things
agreed.
J
D
Kind
of
embedded
in
that
Dennis's
prioritization
aspect
at
several
Alderman
have
have
spoken
to
in
terms
of
and
I'm,
assuming
part
of
that
prioritization
would
be
what's
the
cost
of
these
things,
if
there's
really
no
cost
sending
out
an
application
to
the
state
doing
these
other
types
of
things,
I'm
assuming
those
would
be
like
the
top
three
four
or
five
things
on
the
list
right.
So
no,
okay,
thank
you!
Yeah
and.
A
It
could
be
as
excuse
me
a
variety
of
types
of
arrangements,
like
you
said,
maybe
all
the
woman
Schmidt
and
I
almost
five
years
ago
we're
talking
about
downtown
or
recycling
over
and
over
again,
and
maybe
even
the
Coliseum,
and
maybe
it's
not
you
know,
maybe
we
don't
have
four
or
five.
Maybe
we
start
out
with
$1000
in
two
of
them,
or
maybe
we
part
cause
you
again.
These
are
sort
of
movable
parts
that
you
know,
I
think
what
I
would
echo
what
ultimate
Scot
black
said,
and
that
is
we.
A
We
do
want
to
move
deliberatively,
but
some
of
these
things
we
can
try
without
having
to
do
a
full-blown
analysis
of
and
I
think.
That's
the
analysis,
paralysis
that
he
was
talking
about.
I,
don't
know
it
doesn't
certainly
mean
that
we're
committing
to
spending
a
lot
of
money,
especially
in
a
budget
time
like
now.
We
want
to
kind
of
see
what
those
things
are,
and
you
have
more
things
to
present
I.
I
Agree
with
you
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
feedback.
It's
very
important
I,
also
I'm
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
interdepartmental
II
we're
all
very
invigorated
to
be
having
this
opportunity
to
collaborate
with
one
another.
As
colleagues
and
some
really
great
ideas
are
coming
forward
and
that's
really
really
nice
to
see.
So.
Thank
you.
J
H
J
H
You
want
to
go
out
with
me
and
look
at
the
word
and
says:
okay
yeah
I'd
like
to
do
that.
So
they
get
out
the
next
morning
in
the
boat
and
the
warden
is
getting
his
fishing
line
out
and
putting
some
some
hooks
on
it
and
the
and
the
fisherman
pulls
out
a
stick
of
dynamite
and
he
lights
it
and
he
throws
it
over
and
it
goes
boom
and
all
the
fish
come
up
to
the
surface
and
he's
getting
them
back
in
and
the
warden
says
you
can't
do
that
now.
H
I
know
what
you're
doing
that's
against
the
law,
we're
gonna
and
he's
going
on
and
on
and
while
he's
doing
that,
the
fisherman
takes
another
stick
of
dynamite
out
and
he
likes
it
and
he
and
he
lets
a
fuse
burn
down
to
about
a
eighth
of
an
inch
and
he
hands
it
to
the
warden.
He
says
so,
warden
are
you
gonna
fish?
Are
you
gonna
yack
all
day?
Well
I've
been
talking
about
the
capital
improvement
program
here
for
the
last
three
years
and
maybe
tonight
we'll
have
an
opportunity
to
do
something
about
it.
H
This
year
looked
like
74
million
dollars
worth
of
projects,
and
these
are
the
ones
that
had
ridden
risen
to
the
top
of
the
list
and,
if
you
bonded,
for
those
who
still
would
have
to
do
an
annual
payment
of
about
six
million
dollars
now,
how
did
we
get
to
the
ones
we're
going
to
talk
about
tonight?
Well,
if
you
recall,
when
we
did
our
priority
based
budgeting
discussion
at
the
retreat
on
November
4th,
one
of
the
things
that
was
at
the
very
top
of
the
list
was
a
parks
and
recreation.
H
It
was
activities
for
young
people
and
it
was
quality
of
life
and
that
continued
to
rise
to
the
top
of
the
list.
Also,
when
we
had
our
meetings
with
our
town
hall
meetings,
council
members
met
with
individual
budget
task
force
groups.
The
council
has
come
back
to
us
and
given
us
a
feedback,
another
one
that
keeps
rising
to
the
top
is
is
fix
our
streets.
So
when
I
come
back
to
to
one'll
pool
and
the
street
resurfacing,
I
wanted
to
to
say
that
the
staff
is
neither
advocating
or
refuting
those
it's
just
that.
H
This
is
where
our
paths
of
lettuce
are
the
the
Aquatic
Center,
where
one'll
pool
is
additional
street
resurfacing
and
then
the
total
amount
of
money
for
the
recent
resource.
Those
are
over
on
the
right-hand
side
and
I'm
going
to
ask
Jay
to
come
up
and
talk
about
the
Aquatic
Center
about
O'neill
pool
right
now
that
was
designed
to
have
a
20-year
lifespan.
We've
used
it
for
42
years.
It
can't
probably
be
used
another
year,
I,
don't
think
we're
gonna
be
able
to
open
it
up
this
summer.
H
I,
don't
think
it
can
be
mandated
again
to
to
be
opened
up
to
provide
that
recreational
activity
for
young
people
on
the
the
west
side
of
town,
but
I'll.
Let
Jay
talk
about
that
and
then
I
would
also
let
Jim
cards
talk
about
the
street
resurfacing.
What
we
are
we're
at
the
point
where
we
can't
keep
up
with
the
street
resurfacing
now
the
amount
of
money
that
we
put
into
it
makes
that
curve
go
down
just
a
little
bit.
We
can't
make
it
better
it.
H
I
wanted
to
show
you
a
little
bit
about
what
that
utility
tax
would
talking
about
if
we
talked
about
raising
utility
tax,
twelve
percent,
if
you
look
down
at
the
first
line,
the
estimated
total
bill
of
150
dollars,
we're
looking
at
the
average
house
in
in
the
city
and
an
average
total
utility
bill
of
150
dollars
a
month
that
would
amount
to
nine
dollars
a
year
increase
if
your
total
utility
bill
were
two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
a
month.
That
would
be
an
annual
increase
of
fifteen
dollars
a
year.
H
So
that
is
the
amount
of
money
that
would
give
us
about
four
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars.
This
is
for
if
we
were
looking
at
using
this
source
of
revenue
for
the
Aquatic
Center
at
O'neal
pool
the
other
amount,
one
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
could
be
made
up
by
video
gaming.
We
have
two
hundred
and
fifty
terminals
at
five
hundred
dollars
a
year
that
would
be
a
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
and
that
produces
the
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
H
That
will
be
necessary
to
pay
the
bond
for
about
ten
million
dollars
for
our
neo
pool.
So
that
is
a
way
of
rebuilding
that
pool.
I
I.
Don't
have
a
chart
like
this
that
talks
about
the
increase
of
four
cents,
a
gallon
for
street
resurfacing.
The
gym
is
going
to
talk
about
because
for
cents
a
gallon
is
four
cents
a
gallon.
H
Talking
about
the
pool,
we'd,
welcome
your
comments
on
that
and
please
feel
free
to
interrupt
him
with
questions
any
time
because
we'd
like
to
have
a
discussion
about
what
you
would
like
to
do
with
the
capital
improvement
plan,
because
we
would
like
some
guidance
as
to
what
you
would
like
us
to
build
into
this
year's
budget,
and
you
have
the
freedom
to
do
whatever
it
is.
You
think,
might.
R
Okay,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
the
project
as
a
whole,
so
you've
kind
of
hit
the
whole
funding
piece.
So
I'm
gonna
pretty
much
talk
about
what
the
Aquatic
Center
is
and
for
me
it's
not
just
the
Aquatic
Center.
Obviously,
that's
that's
the
the
main
push
for
this,
but
it's
really
a
renovation
of
oniel
Park
itself
and
rejuvenating
that
Park
in
that
part
out.
So
our
current
situation,
we
have
an
aluminum
pool
I've
been
saying
this
John
Kennedy.
My
predecessor
said
this.
R
For
a
long
time
it
is
aluminum
pool
looma
pools
are
built
to
last
about
25
years
and
we're
gonna
open
our
44th
year.
We
have
put
duct
tape
and
band-aids
for
a
long
time.
Last
year
the
kiddie
pool
we
chose
that
we
could
not
open
it
without
spending
lots
of
money.
We
chose
to
close
it
we're
having
major
issues
all
the
time.
There's
a
deck
issue.
One
thing
that
we
definitely
have
to
deal
with
is
there's
a
a
it's
called
the
Virginia
Graham
Baker
Act,
and
it
is
a
drain
issue.
R
We
have
permission
to
open
the
pool
this
year.
If
we
do
not
fix
the
pool
anywhere
between
a
ten
to
fifty
thousand
dollar
repair,
we
will
not
be
able
to
open
in
2019
every
March
April
I
start
talking
to
our
main
of
staff
about.
Can
we
open
the
pool
this
year?
Cut
me
open
the
pool
this
year,
and
that
goes
for
both
place.
I
talked
about
O'neill's
44
years
old,
so
it's
holiday
and
it's
aluminum
pool
everything
below
ground
is
original,
so
O'neill's
the
biggest
issue
we
have
right
now,
but
we're
on
borrowed
time.
R
R
This
is
a
draft
and
I'm
gonna
say
a
draft
a
couple
times,
because
this
is
part
of
the
piece
of
the
parks
master
plan
and
we
plan
to
bring
this
back
to
you
and
most
likely
April,
so
that
you
can
see
some
of
the
ideas
that
we've
had
some
of
the
ideas
ourselves
have
had
and
ideas
that
neighbors
have
had.
We
did
have
a
public
meeting
with
the
neighbors
and
listen
to
their
ideas,
listen
to
their
thoughts,
listen
to
citizens,
listen
to
our
look
at
our
surveys,
so
this
is
kind
of
where
we're
at
right.
R
Now.
I
just
got
this
last
week,
because
I
asked
for
it
trying
to
push
our
guys
to
come
up
with
what?
Where
are
we
going?
What's
this
going
to
be
so?
What
you're
looking
at
is
the
plan?
What
is
darkened
is
future,
so
that
can
be.
That
is
not
part
of
the
the
nine
point.
Nine
million
dollar
project.
But
as
you
look
at
that
and
see
as
the
Aquatic
Center
grows
in
size,
it
takes
out
some
of
the
parking
lot
which
takes
up
a
skate
park,
so
the
skate
park
redo.
R
Let's
say
it's
part
of
this,
so
looking
at
the
Aquatic
Center
I've
got
the
pool
on
the
backside
of
that
we're
looking
at
eating,
see
what's
list
of
this
future,
what's
listed
as
if
it's
not
listed
as
future.
It's
it's
was
part
of
that
project.
So
one
of
things
I
like
about
this.
It
gives
opportunities
for
phasing
throughout
the
park
and
throughout
the
Aquatic
Center,
so
that
nothing
becomes
stale.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
add
more
things,
so
we
have
a
lazy
river
in
there
above.
R
So
you
know
it
gives
us
it
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
grow
and
see
what
new
fads
are
ten
years
down
the
road
after
this
is
built
in
and
adjust
to
those
things.
One
of
the
things
look
at
here
is
a
is
a
spray
park,
that'll
be
for
this
area.
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was:
is
the
spray
park
going
to
be
part
of
the
pool
outside
the
pool,
so
what
we
have
right
now
in
the
plans
is
that
it
will
be
when
the
pool
is
opened.
R
It
will
be
inside
the
pool,
so
you
have
to
pay
to
get
to
the
spray
park.
But
if
the
pool
is
closed,
the
spray
park
would
be
open
to
our
citizens
so
that
it
adds
a
couple
months
of
play.
Time
of
you
know
what
school
goes
in
session.
We
tend
to
start
shutting
our
pools.
Now
we
keep
our
spray
parks
open
as
long
as
the
weather
allows
us
to
so.
This
talks
about
some
of
the
things
that
would
be
part
of
the
construction
project,
but
this
pool
is
complete
demolition.
R
There's
there
is
nothing
we
want
to
keep
there.
It
is
that
bad
of
shape,
I
talked
about
concessions
there.
One
things
we
like
to
see
is
the
same
model
as
if
you're
outside
the
park
at
a
baseball
game,
you
can
come
get
something
at
the
concession,
much
of
the
model
that
we're
going
to
utilize
at
the
zoo.
But
you
know
lots
of
opportunities
to
really
show
what
aquatic
center
can
be.
The
goal
is
to
rejuvenate
this
part
of
the
community,
but
it's
not
just
the
Aquatic
Center.
R
We
do
have
some
these
few
things
on
here
at
listed
the
spray
park
again,
just
to
emphasize
that's
an
opportunity
for
that
community
to
come
out
and
play
at
a
story
park
in
their
neighborhood,
but
I
also
talked
about
a
steep
mark.
That
is
a
piece
of
O'neil,
that's
greatly
utilized,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
since
we
need
the
land
we'll
be
able
to
build
a
new
and
larger
scale,
skatepark
new-and-improved
I
should
say
better,
but
again
much
like
the
pool.
R
I
want
to
have
the
opportunity
to
show
growth
to
do
some
things
and
really
rejuvenate
this
park.
The
only
thing
that
really
the
only
thing
we're
not
touching
are
the
baseball
fields,
baseball
and
softball
fields,
primarily
we'd
like
to
do
some
work
on
the
dugouts
and
things
like
that.
But
for
the
most
part
those
fields
are
in
decent
shape
and
when
I
focus
on
some
of
the
other
things.
I
also
want
to
talk
about
some
of
the
things
like
a
nature
play
area
dog
park.
You
know
a
lot
of
these
things
in
the
bottom.
R
R
Is
right,
so
that's
something
that
we
can
really
cheap
on
our
own
as
time
and
money
became
available.
Things
like
that
right
now,
Anil
has
three
tennis
courts.
They're
both
are
all
three
are
fairly
underutilized,
so
we've
talked
about
taking
out
the
three
courts
again
to
have
new
because
of
the
parking
lot.
So
we
would
later
we
put
one
test.
Court
in
and
pickleball
is
a
huge
thing,
so
we'd
have
pickleball
courts,
but
again
that's
the
future.
For
this
part,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
some
of
the
where
we
are
financially?
R
R
So
if
you
look
at
our
budget,
one
things
I
wanted
to
point
out.
Is
we
don't
have
full-time
staff
salaries
in
aquatics
because
we
have
a
program
manager
spends
thirty
percent
of
our
time
at
at
O'neill,
so
the
thirty
percent
of
our
time
it's
plugged
into
these
numbers
here,
but
if
you'll
go
back
and
look
at
our
budget
you'll
see
some
differences.
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
very
open
with
that
utility
worker
who
spends
twenty
percent
of
his
time
at
O'neill.
His
his
time
and
benefits
is
also
included
in
this.
R
R
M
D
M
Q
R
And
a
lot
of
that
is
raising,
pool
it'll
cost
more
to
go
into
the
pool
it
cost
more
to
buy
a
pass,
we're
still
floating
things
around
again.
This
is
very
much
a
draft
of
we've
talked
about
having
a
pass
just
for
holiday,
so
this
will
be
a
large
Aquatic
Center.
Maybe
you
just
want
to
go
swim,
and
maybe
the
traditional
pool
is
more
your
style,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
that
option
as
well,
but
yeah
we
looked
at.
R
Definitely
as
we
raised
value
price
will
have
to
go
up
with
it
again
trying
to
hit
that
cost
recovery,
and
we
know
those
people
who
probably
go
to
holiday
instead,
especially
when
this
opens.
This
would
be
really
popular
and
a
crowd
may
not
be
your
thing.
You
may
go
to
holiday,
that's
great!
We
want
to
utilize
with
both
of
our
pools
but
yeah.
The
the
revenue
here
is
one
a
lot
more
people
are
in
go.
We
have
very
old,
antiquated
pools
both
of
them.
R
P
R
That
is
part
of
our
consultant
team
that
we
hired
that
we've
had
three
or
four
phone
calls
for
a
couple
hours
where
their
bounce
that
we're
at
bounce
the
numbers
back
and
forth
and
what's
realistic,
they
had
a
hundred
when
we
started
they
had
a
$150
pool
pass
and
we're
like
that.
That
won't
work
here,
some
of
what
the
some
of
the
staff
costs
and
some
of
the
costs
in
general
like
we,
we
don't
have
to
pay
that
much
or
we
manage
it
with
some
quacks.
R
There's
like
this
would
have
a
full-time
person
like
I
said
we
have
30%
of
a
person
who
would
cover
this,
so
those
are
numbers
with
our
consultants,
but
it's
also
us
answering
the
questions
that
they
asked
of
us
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
over
I
can't
ask
$150
a
year
for
a
single
person
to
go
to
a
pool.
That's
we
can't
do
that
here.
Okay
is,
does.
P
Okay
and
then
just
one
other
thought,
I
had
around
the
pool
passes
as
I
grew
up
in
a
farm
town
as
well,
and
we
had
a
pool
and
everything
like
that,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
is
for.
Even
if
you
were
raised,
pool
prices
like
the
$75
range.
That's
still
out
of
reach
for
some
families,
and
there
was
actually
a
program
in
our
community
where
some
families
that
could
would
put
in
extra
money
to
help-
and
there
was
almost
like
us-
a
application
for
families
to
that
yeah.
P
Q
I
Added
in
I,
guess
and
expanded
on
that's
exciting,
but
I
guess
when
I
was
thinking
about
replacing
O'neal
pool.
What
came,
to
my
mind
was
acclimatizing
the
pool
and
the
water
play
for
the
environment
that
we
have
here
in
Illinois.
In
other
words,
we
have
a
lot
of
bad
days
like
today.
Wouldn't
it
be
nice
if
we
took
an
opportunity
to
use
this
spot
to
create
an
indoor/outdoor
kind
of
pool
and
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
cost
in
relation
to
this
kind
of
a
Playland
approach.
I
R
I
You
say
cost
so
just
that
I'm,
clear
I,
guess
again,
my
focus
was
very
laser
on
the
idea
of
a
pool
for
a
pool
and
then
everything
else,
kind
of
stays
as
is,
but
the
pool
becomes
an
aquatic
center
and
what
I
I
put
in
some
notes
and
some
input
to
Steve
on
this,
when
I
thought
of
aquatic
center
I
thought
of
a
swim
center
like
a
year-round
swim
center.
So
what
would
the
cost
of
that?
It's
not
fancy,
but
you
know
concrete
indoor/outdoor
was
Wynn
Center
he'd,
obviously
do
I
mean.
R
You
can
see
prices
from
three
million
up
to
I
saw
college
put
in
a
pool
an
indoor
aquatic
center
and
it
was
80
89
million
dollars
so
trying
to
keep
realistic
of
what
we
can
do
and
what
we
can't
do.
But
we
that's
like
I
said
we
took
it
out
from
early
on
consideration
just
because
it's
due
costs
get
more
bang
for
our
buck.
I
O
You
and
ji
I
had
a
very
similar
idea
because
I
I
know
we,
you
know
all
the
woman,
Bray
and
I.
You
know
spoke
about
this
at
some
point,
I
think
in
January
or
December,
but
I
I
do
feel
the
same
way,
because
I
think,
if
we
have
to
me
spending
ten
million
dollars
or
just
two
or
three
months
of
use,
doesn't
necessarily
seem
like
the
best
use
of
money.
You
know
so
I
and
I
mean
that
respectfully
you
know,
I
am
NOT
trying
to
be
funny
or
sarcastic
I
think
we,
you
know.
O
If
we,
you
know,
if
we
build
something,
maybe
a
little
less
ambitious,
but
that
we
could
use
year
round,
we
might
get
more
bang
for
our
buck
and
at
the
same
time,
I.
You
know,
as
we
do
these
things
I'm
always
thinking
about
what
else
do
we
have
in
town?
That
is
similar.
You
know,
so
we
don't
replicate
the
the
things
that
we
have
I
know
the
State
Farm
has
their
own.
You
know
wave
pool
and
things
like
that.
O
D
D
D
Secondly,
then
I
want
to
follow
up
on
Jamie's
question
so
right
now
we're
showing
a
cost
recovery
rate
of
5%.
That's
just
on
the
operational
side.
The
capital
side
would
add
how
much
to
the
loss
and
here's.
Why
I
asked
right,
because
right
now
we
have
a
continuing
conversation
perpetually
every
year
about
the
golf
courses
right
and
somehow
we
think
it's
appropriate
to
kind
of
separate
operational
from
capital.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
there's
a
total
cost
to
operate
that
business,
that
service
that
facility.
D
So
in
my
mind,
I
like
to
I
like
to
put
them
all
together
right.
So
so,
let's
not
just
kind
of
perpetuate
what
I
think
is
a
wrong
perspective,
as
it
relates
to
the
golf
courses
with
this.
So
so,
what
do
we
think
the
additional
capital
requirements
would
we
would
have
to
budget
in
each
year?
That
would,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
it
would
further,
it
would
further
widen
the
deficit
that
we
see
there.
What.
R
D
No
ma'am
and
I
apologize,
ma'am
I
didn't
ask
the
question
the
right
way
in
order
to
budget
and
have
the
money
available
to
to
meet
the
capital
needs.
You
know
on
a
ten
million
dollar
facility,
as
opposed
to
you
know
the
operational
which
what
we
see
here,
we
figure
we'd
also
have
to
be
budgeting
money
to
address
capital
expenses,
as
they
came
up
yeah
just
what
every
the.
R
D
And
so
yeah
and
I
apologize
I
mean
I'll,
be
asking
it
the
right
way.
Here's
the
reality
as
I
see
it.
The
deficit
would
be
more
than
$75,000
a
year
if
we
were
going
to
appropriately
budget
and
begin
to
accumulate
funds
annually
to
cover
capital
expenses.
When
they
came
came.
Am
I
saying
that's
right
regime?
Thank
you
so
so
that
that's
a
concern,
I
do
I
would
be
interested
in
seeing
very
much
a
stripped-down
number
in
line
with
what
Kim
and
and
Boca
have
suggested.
The
ten
million
dollars.
I.
Think
is
just
that.
D
D
I
heard
a
business
owner
tonight
say
he's
seeing
PP,
seeing
people
pull
back
and
that's
happening
everywhere,
that
this
is
not
a
temporary
situation
and
I
think
we're
in
as
it
relates
to
some
of
the
larger
employers
here
in
town
I'm,
going
to
suggest
that
we're
already
seeing
declining
revenue,
that's
a
trend,
I,
don't
see,
I,
don't
see
that
changing
so
so.
I
want
us
to
be
realistic
in
our
conversations
about
thinking
about
projects
like
this,
but
also
how
we
can
realistically
pay
for
them,
because
we
we're
going
to
have
to
make
some
cuts.
D
I
appreciate,
Karen's,
suggesting
that
we
have
had
any
conversations
about
cuts.
I
would
suggest
that
this
council
is
done
talking
about
cuts
for
this
budget.
I
haven't
seen
anything
that
indicates
that
there's
a
willingness
to
to
have
further
conversations
about
cuts,
and
so,
at
the
end
the
day
we
just
cannot
continue
to
ask.
You
know
our
citizens
and
our
businesses
to
pay
more
to
cover
projects
like
this.
We're
gonna
have
to
pull
back.
So
thank
you.
Jane.
R
We
haven't
priced
that
out.
I'll
be
I'll,
be
honest,
we're
still
working
through
this
I.
Would
it's
my
job
to
give
advice
or
recommendations
to
my
bosses
and
and
to
the
community
and
I
would
say
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
in
our
best
interest
to
replace
the
pool,
as
is
it's
an
older
pool,
older
model,
older
style?
Whatever
you
want
to
say,
people
are
going
to
a
quacks
diner,
so
we
can
still
do
all
the
pool
stuff
there.
The
swim
teams,
that's
where
the
swim
team
goes.
R
H
H
Recovery
wouldn't
be
as
much,
but
it
would
be
prudent
to
begin
to
build
a
fund
so
that
when
all
of
a
sudden,
we
have
to
spend
150,000
dollars
to
replace
a
filter
or
something
we're
not
sitting
there
wringing
our
hands
wondering
where
we're
going
to
get
that
and
I
understand
exactly
what
you're
saying
and
then
back
to
the
other
good
question
we
had
over
here.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
asked
in
your
packet.
H
There
is,
we
have
a
couple
of
motions,
and
one
of
the
motion
is
that
the
city
staff
has
directed
to
include
the
O'neal
pool
project
within
the
FY
2019
capital
improvement
plan.
What
we're
really
asking
there
is
is:
do
we
want
to
work
on
this
project
or
not?
It
was
kind
of
like
what
we
did
with
with
solid
waste.
H
Do
we
want
to
talk
about
outsourcing
it
or
not,
and
so
that
was
good
information
that
we
got,
and
here
what
we
want
to
know
is,
should
we
include
this
or
not,
and
what
we
can
do,
though,
is
we
can
then
come
back
to
you
with
a
with
a
plan,
a
B
and
C
like
a
stripped-down
version
or
the
$10,000,000
version,
or
something
in
between.
So
you
can
look
at
that
and
decided
what
we
would
like
to
do
on
it.
A
If
the
Steve,
as
long
as
you're
talking
about
that
just
at
the
at
the
end
of
the
day,
let's
say
we
have
the
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
after
twenty
years,
we're
probably
going
to
have
to
we
probably
don't
have
any
dramatic
core
equity.
Afterwards,
it's
unlike
right
when
you're
buying
a
house
when
you're
done
paying
off
your
house
after
in
15
or
20
years
or
30
years,
you
have
some
equity.
We
probably
are
gonna,
have
to
begin
to
replace
this
again
or
make
some
major
investments.
Is
that
correct.
H
K
Or
excellent
become
more
of
a
comment,
I'm
uncomfortable
suggesting
that
you
going
and
price
out
an
indoor
outdoor
facility
at
this
time
and
we've
been
talking
about
replacing
me
O'neal
pool
for
a
long
time
and
now
to
shift
gears
and
say
we
want
you
want
to
look
at
an
indoor
outdoor
I.
Don't
think!
That's
a
personally
I,
don't
think!
That's
an
effective
use
of
your
time!.
M
You
I,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
that
I
really
like
the
designs
and
the
ideas
you've
come
up
with
I
think
that
it's
incredibly
creative,
it's
a
quality-of-life
project,
and
if
we
were
to
do
everything,
that's
in
here
it
becomes
a
destination
in
our
community,
and
it's
like
I,
really
appreciate
all
the
vision
that
went
into
this
and
and
it's
not
lost
on
me.
This
is
being
put
into
a
neighborhood
that
is
very
dense
in
residence,
as
opposed
to
some
of
our
East
Side
pools.
M
M
As
one
of
our
public
commenters
said,
I
also
agree
that
a
utility
tax
is
very
regressive.
I
voted
for
our
last
utility
tax
increase
to
pay
for
pensions,
very
reluctantly,
thinking
that
we
were
going
to
have
a
conversation
about
moving
pension
dollars
over
into
our
property
tax
or
moving
it
away
from
utility
tax,
and
you
know
I
$9.00
a
year
but
I
happen
to
see
as
a
landlord
I'll
see
tenants.
That
cannot
pay
a
$32
bill
month
after
month
if
they
can't
pay
$32
that
campaign
$32.25
I.
M
Also
don't
like
the
idea
that
we're
taxing
something
that
people
have
to
have
they
don't
have
a
choice:
I
mean
you
either
think
it
like
not
have
electricity
so
that
really
bothers
me.
I
also
am
NOT
a
big
fan
of
the
video
gaming.
Neither
one
of
these
things
are
related
to
pool
so
to
borrow
mr.
sages
phrase.
M
H
You
very
much
alderman
Schmitt
I,
understand
that
in
any
of
these
options
that
we
put
out
aren't
very
good,
but
one
of
the
things
we
can
do.
Of
course,
if
you
would
like
to
revert
back
as
some
people
have
talked
about
on
property
tax,
we
have
already
put
the
property
tax
into
place
for
this
year,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we're
going
to
all
of
a
sudden
have
a
swimming
pool
built
tomorrow.
H
H
We
have
to
find
the
money
somewhere
we
and
so
we're,
throwing
some
options
out
and
we'd
we'd
like
to
hear
your
comments
on,
and
we
appreciate
that
because
then
we
can
figure
out
some
way
of
doing
this
if
the,
if
the
pool
is
what
we
want
to
do
so
we're
not
we're
not
locked
in
any
of
those
we've.
Given
you
those
as
some
options
to
talk
about
right.
J
Thank
you
thank
you
Jay
and
Steve.
So
when
we
talk
about
capital
improvement
projects,
there
are
very
few
ones
that
we
have
the
opportunity
that
can
become
economic
engines
for
an
area
or
for
the
city.
When
we
build
a
new
city
hall,
that's
not
going
to
really
generate
a
lot
for
revenue
right
exactly
and
as
someone
who
frequents
O'neal
pool
in
the
summertime,
it's
always
crowded,
I
mean
it's
every
time.
I'm
there
people
are
there
and
it's
it's
a
well-loved,
establishment
and
I.
Think
it'd
be
a
real,
missed
opportunity
for
us.
J
If
we
don't
think
big
about
this
project
and
and
I
respect
all
the
rent
sages
position,
because
we
don't
want
to
be
getting
a
Cadillac
with
when
we
can
afford-
or
we
should
be
thinking
more,
some
more
middle
of
the
road
but
I
also
appreciate
all
of
your
swimming
puns.
We've
been
making
and
we're
going
to
dive
into
those
numbers.
We're
gonna
float
that
idea.
J
That's
not
gonna,
mist,
I
know,
I
can't
help
it
I
have
to
agree
with
Karen,
though
that
I
think
utility
tax
and
video
gaming
licensing
is
not
the
way
that
I'd
want
to
see.
This
revenue
for
this
expansion
and
I
have
to
give
it
to
Steve
that
I
just
appreciate
how
you
bring
these
things
to
us
and
these
big
high-level
policy
questions,
and
you
put
the
question
on
us:
it's
not
on
you
and
you
put
the
it's
on
the
table
and
if
we
don't
like
it,
then
we
got
to
live
with.
J
What
that
looks
like
and
to
me
a
project
like
this
being
an
engine
for
the
area
in
whatever
form
it
takes.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
tied
to
property
tax,
because
we
can
capture
some
of
the
the
growth
and
some
of
the
eav
that
would
come
from
such
a
project.
The
area
that
I
grew
up
in
had
a
wave
pool
had
a
regular
pool
had
a
couple
different
things:
I
think
there's
a
public
good
in
having
a
Aquatic
Center
that
teaches
people
and
gives
them
the
opportunity
to
learn
how
to
swim.
J
That's
a
life
skill.
You
know,
I
know
that
a
lot
of
different
areas
handled
their
public,
their
parks
and
recs
departments
differently,
some
new
districts
themselves.
We
do
it
this
way
here.
I
think,
there's
a
real
benefit
to
having
a
public
venue
that
is
unique.
It's
in
the
focus
point
that
you
can't
get
somewhere
else.
We
don't
want
to
duplicate
something
that
not
everybody
has
access
to.
J
It's
got
to
be
a
draw
and
I
think
we
can
make
this
an
engine
for
an
area
that
needs
it
that
is
strategically
located
and
we
talk
about
those
types
of
location,
Location,
Location,
we're
right
there
by
an
interstate
we're
on
a
major
County
Road.
We
got
a
direct
shot
from
our
downtown
area
that
all
makes
sense
to
me
and
moving
how
we
move
this
conversation
forward.
I
would
like
to
see
it
included
in
the
plan,
but
maybe
it
comes
back
in
a
couple
different
ways
and
becomes
like
in
a
basic
equal.
J
A
conversation
that
we
had
people
will
talk
about
cost
recovery
with
Parks
and
Rec
a
lot.
And
that's
that's
totally
fine,
but
I
know
that
one'll
pool
hosts
a
lot
of
Boys
and
Girls
Club
events
and
I
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
kids
that
are
at
risk
to
spend
time
there
and
if
we
prevent
one
child
from
being
arrested
for
the
over
the
course
of
a
summer
that
saves
taxpayer
$65,000
in
legal
fees
and
juvenile
housing
and
all
that
stuff,
plus
we're
putting
a
kid
on
the
right
path.
J
So
you
know,
while
some
folks
might
come
back
at
me
and
say
this
is
a
wants
and
not
a
need.
I
can
hear
that
and
I'll
respect
that
opinion.
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
not
only
create
an
engine
but
really
help
public
safety
and
then
revitalize
an
area
that
been
waiting
far
too
long
for
this
type
of
a
project
right.
A
I
would
personally
important
number
one
echo
funnel,
but
alderman
Black
has
said.
This
is
certainly
a
major
investment
in
a
part
of
Bloomington
we've
not
put
lots
of
major
investments
in,
and
certainly
there
aren't
many
major
destinations
on
the
west
side
of
Bloomington.
This
would
certainly
help
that,
and
especially
with
respect
to
at-risk
youth
in
at-risk,
you
can
be
very
broadly
defined
or
narrowly
defined,
whether
it's
jobs,
programs
or
having
something
and
in
an
area
where
it's
well,
it's
needed
everywhere,
but
particularly
on
the
west
side.
A
N
Know
I
agree
that
the
pool
needs
to
be
revamped
somehow
I,
don't
think
it's
waste
of
time
to
do
the
indoor
outdoor
idea,
though
I
think
that
that's
a
really
good
idea
for
bringing
revenue
in
year-round
I
think
that
the
other
park
amenities,
that
those
are
very
good
and
you
could
add
those
in
time.
But
my
major
concern
is
we're
talking
about
how
to
do
all
of
these
things
and
how
to
pay
for
them.
But
we
haven't
talked
about
how
we're
going
to
tackle
our
1.5
million
dollar
deficit.
H
Thank
you
very
much.
Alderman
painter
and
I
wish.
It
were
one
point.
The
five
is
actually
2.9
million
and
when
we
come
back
to
you
next
Monday
night
at
the
regular
City
Council
meeting,
we
are
going
to
have
that
taken
care
of
because
of
the
things
that
you
have
given
the
guidance
you've
given
us
in
the
last
two
or
three
meetings,
and
so
we'll
bring
that
back
to
you
as
a
balanced
budget
and
so
that
that
does
not
necessarily
bear
on
this.
Okay.
H
What
those
things
might
be
for
sure
one
of
them
is
going
to
be
solid
waste.
We
decided
we're
not
going
to
outsource
that
so
Jim
is
going
to
bring
back
to
you.
Several
options
about
differences
in
service
levels
and
fee
increases
so
that
that
1.1
million
dollar
deficit
and
solid
waste
will
be
taken.
Care
of.
We
also
have
about
2.25
million
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
in
in
fee
increases
and
Bob
Mart
will
bring
that
back
to
you
and
show
you
what
those
regular
fee
increases
will
be.
H
We'll
also
bring
back
to
a
proposal
for
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
business
registration
fees,
for
your
consideration
and
then
there's
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
vacancy
savings,
and
we
will
bring
each
one
of
those
back
to
you
and
we'll
show
you
how
each
one
of
those
would
be
works
together
to
provide
that
balanced
budget.
I
appreciate
all
the
input
that
the
council
given
us
in
the
last
several
weeks.
Thank.
H
Okay,
great
and
one
other
thing,
I
would
like
to
add
on
this
because
we've
been
talking
about
the
pool
and
and
how
we
would
fund
it
and
so
another
way
that
we
could
do
it.
As
a
second
motion
on
this
is,
we
could
say
something
like
that:
the
city
staff
draft
an
ordinance
initiating
and
ordinance
funding,
said
funding
for
the
O'neal
pool
project
and
bring
set
ordinance
back
to
the
council
for
final
action
within
three
months.
H
D
So
one
question
for
you:
Jane
and
I
guess
a
comment
for
you
Steve.
So
what
do
we
have
an
estimate
if
we
were
to
scale
back
the
wave
pool,
so
that
would
be
aldermen
black
in
the
shallow
end
with
a
kickboard?
What
we
anticipate
there
could
be
a
savings
associated
with
that
construction
cost
at
all.
Take
it
as
a
yes.
D
So
steep,
so
I
want
to
follow
up
a
little
because
I
think
Diana
makes
a
good
point
right.
I
mean
when
we're
talking
about
a
thousand
dollar
eco
recycler
in
downtown
I
understand
how
that
might
be
more
easily
integrated
into
a
budget.
When
we
talk
about
something
that
that
could
be
anywhere
from
two
million
to
ten
million
and
and
and
you
want
to
ask
me
to
give
staff
that
go
ahead
to
do
that
and
bring
us
something
back
in
three
months
when
we
will
have,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
I
already
adopted
a
budget.
D
That's
that's
a
bridge
too
far
for
me,
I,
just
I
won't
be
comfortable.
Doing
that
I
mean
I,
know,
staff
is
gonna,
exercise
due
diligence
and
try
to
get
those
numbers
pulled
together,
but
there's
no
way
I'd
be
comfortable,
trying
to
to
give
staff
to
vote,
to
approve
an
ordinance
that
says
yeah
we're
going
to
include
O'neal
pool
in
the
FY
19
budget
or
the
Aquatic
Center,
or
whatever
description
we
want
to
use
without
understanding
the
scope
and
the
cost
of
what
we're
talking
about
here.
D
H
And
I
appreciate
that
and
I
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
ask
of
all
the
capital
improvement
projects
that
we've
got.
We
have
a
number.
This
seems
to
have
risen
to
the
top
of
the
list,
and
would
the
council
like
us
to
pursue
this
as
really
what
we're
doing
or
shall
we
shall
we
forget
about
and
go
to
something
else,
and
that's
really
all
we're
asking
we're
not
asking
if
you're
for
specifics
on
that.
D
But
but
you're
not
giving
you're
not
giving
me
the
m4
I,
don't
have
the
completed
staff
work
that
I
need
to
make
that
decision
to
give
you
that
feedback,
because
are
you
telling
me
it's
two
million
is
five
million?
Is
a
10
million?
Is
our
deficit
going
to
be
75
thousand
or
a
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
a
year?
These
are
critical
pieces
of
information
that
are
needed
in
my
opinion.
In
order
for
me
to
be
able
to
cast
an
informed
vote,
sure.
P
That
makes
me
uncomfortable,
especially
if
it's
a
flat
fee
tax
as
well
too,
because
I
think
that
there's
a
significant
difference
between
you
know
just
as
an
example,
some
a
large
truck
stop
and
the
way
that
they
operate
in
the
amount
of
revenue.
That's
collected
there
versus
some
of
our
smaller
establishes
in
town
too
so
I.
P
So
you
know
I,
don't
know
what
how
the
scale
all
those
things
looks
but
I'm
interested
in
seeing
what
that
might
look
like
as
well.
You
know
for
just
a
swim
center
that
might
be
the
indoor/outdoor
part
and
the
rest
of
it
could
be
add-ons
later.
The
lazy
river
and
things
of
that
nature
could
be.
Those
could
be.
You
know,
future
parts
of
this.
P
A
Thank
you,
yeah
I
think
one
of
the
the
linkages
and
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
her
mouth
and
she's.
She'll
talk
next
that
although
Holloman
said
that
they're
video-gaming
I
think
you
said
some
version
of
and
I
agree
with
this.
It
is
certainly
some
form
of
recreation.
I
think
it
may
be
a
little
bit
more
than
that,
but
and
certainly
nobody
has
to
pay
it.
Nobody
has
to
keep
their
machines
in
there.
A
No,
we
know
that
they're
going
to
because
they're
incredibly
profitable,
but
we
we
have
no
additional
increment
as
far
as
I
know
we're
the
only
metro
city
in
downstate
Illinois.
That
does
not
put
an
increment
on
video
poker
because
it
takes
about
a
million
dollars
a
week
out
of
the
city's
economy.
So,
anyway,
all
the
woman
just.
P
A
Here
we're
bound
by
state
law,
we're
sort
of,
and
then
again
it
doesn't
have
to
be
logical.
This
is
Illinois
or
Springfield
made
these
decisions,
but
those
are
the
kind
of
boxes
that
were
in
and
gosh
I
think
it's
been
well
so
at
least
four
years
said
that
the
Liquor
Commission
has
looked
at
these
things.
It's
been
a
while,
but
they
excuse
me
I'm.
Sorry,
all
the
woman
helmet
well.
K
So
if
we
wanted
to
do
that,
I
think
that
should
be
part
of
a
different
conversation
than
than
the
pool.
I
am
uncomfortable
with
the
reputation
that
Bloomington
has
with
the
amount
of
money
that's
spent
in
video
gaming
machines
and
that's
I,
don't
like
us
having
the
reputation
of
being
one
of
the
highest
generators
of
that,
and
and
also
that
it's
taking
money
out
of
the
community
I
mean
it
some
of
it
stays
here.
K
Yes,
three-quarters
of
a
million
stays
here,
but
a
vast
majority
goes
either
to
the
to
the
state
or
to
the
gaming
companies,
and
we
don't
see
the
benefit
of
that
in
terms
of
turning
that
money.
Over
with
tech
with
taxes,
I
mean,
if
I,
if
I
weren't,
putting
five
bucks
in
the
video
gaming
machine,
I'd
be
going
to
McDonald's
and
there'd,
be
some
some
tax
sales
tax
generated
from
that
so
I'm,
not
in
favor
right
now
of
looking
at
a
tax,
if
I
can
say,
I
think
that
should
be
part
of
a
bigger
conversation.
A
N
You
I
agree
with
you
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I
have
filled
out
an
ultimate
request
form
to
put
a
moratorium
on
the
amount
of
video
gaming
machines
we
have.
Last
year
we
made
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
off
of
video
gaming.
That
pays
for
one
traffic
signal
that
really
isn't
much
for
us
and
it
does
take
money
out
of
the
economy.
N
So
I
think
that
just
for
a
year
we
should
see
what
that
takes
us
and
also
I
I
would
like
to
see
an
ordinance
that
would
prohibit
liquor
sales
next
to
daycare
centers.
There
is
establishment
that
wants
to
get
started
in
my
ward
right
next
to
a
daycare
center
that
would
have
video
gaming
and
liquor
sales
and
be
a
truck
stop
where
no
trucks
go
so
anyway.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
heads
up
on
that
Thanks.
N
D
Would
say:
Thank,
You,
mayor
and
Diana
and
Johnny
I
mean
I,
hear
what
you
say.
I
would
suggest
that
we
take
a
further
step
back
and
say
before
we
had
video
gaming
I
wonder
if
it's
not
if
it's
not
fair,
to
suggest
that
all
of
that
money
was
leaving
in
the
community
because
it
was
going
to
you
know,
boat,
gambling
and
other
places,
so
so
I
mean
if
we're
gonna
say
it
takes
money
out
of
the
community.
D
I
would
suggest
that
even
going
a
little
bit
further
back
in
history,
$750,000
is
actually
being
retained
in
that
community.
Now,
where
it
wasn't
before,
so
you
I
want
money,
make
sure
we
stay
balanced
as
we
as
we
have
that
kind
of
conversation,
because
I
think
there's
two
sides
to
that
coin.
So
thanks
all.
J
A
S
So
obviously,
video
gaming
fees
are
on
the
agenda
tonight
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
different
discussion,
a
lot
of
different
ideas.
We
were
actually
planning
on
bringing
this
back.
The
video
gaming
discussion
at
the
next
council
meeting
a
week
from
tonight
and
looking
at
you
know
whether
or
not
the
council
decides
to
put
a
one-year
moratorium
on
it.
We
could
enact
very
easily
regulation
similar
to
what
normal
has
they
charge,
$200
terminal,
and
we
could
discuss
next
Monday,
whether
or
not
you
want
to
have
any
fee
associated
with
that.
S
If
you
want
to
do
the
moratorium,
if
you
want
to
go
a
different
direction,
but
as
far
as
kind
of
discussing
the
video
gaming,
we
were
talking
about
bringing
that
back
next
Monday,
perhaps
recommending
that
we,
you
know,
give
some
staff
some
time
get.
Some
regulations
enacted
then
give
staff
some
time
to
come
back
with
some
recommendations
on
where
the
fees
should
be
and
what,
whether
or
not
you
should
lift
the
moratorium.
That
type
of
thing.
So
she
wanted
to
give
you
that
information
as
well.
H
For
purposes
of
answering
the
question
tonight
and
giving
them
the
staff
some
guidance
as
to
where
they
should
direct
their
resources,
maybe
what
we
could
do
is
make
this
first
motion
say
something
like
that:
city
staff
is
directed
to
proceed
with
planning
for
the
O'neil
full
project
within
the
FY
2019
capital
improvement
plan,
and
then
we
could
answer
some
of
these
good
questions.
You've
been
answered
and
I
can
put
the
staff
to
work
on
that.
Okay.
A
Since
we
didn't
have
consensus
on
a
variety
of
different
things,
I
thought.
Maybe
we
would
go
through
that
you
were
trying
to
keep
us
at
500
feet.
Thank
you,
Steve
and
I
wonder
if
we
could,
because
we've
obviously
exhausted
our
time,
but
obviously
this
I
think
it's
been
very
productive
conversation.
So
we'll
start
with
all
the
one
Brahe
if
you
could
as
quickly
as
possible,
summarize
where
you're
thinking,
if
see
if
we
can
come
with
some
kind
of
consensus,
I.
I
Favor
some
study
in
regards
to
a
pool
for
a
pool,
I
favor,
going
with
a
year-round
approach
rather
than
just
a
three
to
four
month.
Usage
of
this
large
property,
so
I
would
say,
do
something
different
in
regards
to
having
that
that
indoor
pool,
let's
see
what
that
might
look
like
and
how
far
our
money
would
go
with
devoting
the
majority
of
the
cash
to
that
large
facility
that
could
service
the
entire
community
year-round.
Okay,.
I
K
A
O
I
I
think
what
I
would
favor
you
know.
We
talked
about
the
indoor
outdoor
concept.
That
probably
would
be
first
to
take
a
look
at
I'm,
not
ready
to
commit
to
anything
yet
but
I'd
like
to
see
numbers
and
I
want
to
see
something,
maybe
stripped
down.
You
know
to
see
what
what
that
looks
like
in
terms
of
numbers.
A
D
Thanks,
it's
so
Steve
I'm
feeling
like
I'm,
not
sure
that
staff
is
still
getting
the
clear
direction.
That's
what
neat
was
what
is
needed
because
an
indoor/outdoor
pool
might
be
replacing
O'neil,
replacing
the
pool
and
putting
a
bubble
over
it.
That's
an
indoor/outdoor
pool,
that's
not
that's
not
Yogi
Bear
water
park
or
whatever
it
is
that
Jamie
was
talking
about
up
in
Wisconsin
right.
Those
are
different
things
and
so
I
would
suggest.
We
want
to
make
stats
time
as
productive
as
possible.
D
You
see
what
I'm
saying
Steve
sure,
because
there's
a
difference,
I
think
between
you
know
a
a
bungee
jump,
a
waterslide,
a
bunch
of
amenities
inside
to
some
covered
area
and
just
something
where
people
can
come
and
swim
year
round
and
swim
teams
can
come
and
practice,
and
that
type
of
thing.
So,
having
said
that,
what
I
would
say
is
is
again
and
I
like
appreciate
Diana's.
D
A
kind
of
approach
here
is:
what
is
the
cost
to
to
replace
what
we
have,
which
is
basically
a
seasonal
facility,
and
then
what
would
the
additional
cost
be
on
something
that
that
would
simply
cover
that
replace
the
pool
and
and
allow
something
that
could
be
used
year-round,
but
it
would
be
strictly
for
for
swimming
and
use
of
swim
teams
and
that
type
of
thing.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
kind
of
narrow
that
focus
down
a
little
bit
more
and
again,
I
might
be
in
the
minority.
A
P
I'm
with
Scot,
primarily
on
this,
that
I
am
interested
mostly
in
what
can
we
do
as
an
economic
engine
in
that
area?
So
if
it's,
if
it's
just
a
swim
meet
facility
or
if
it's
the
outdoor
park,
I
mean
that's,
you
know
the
my
basic
strategy
is
that
I
would
for
these
capital
projects
and
the
priority
that
I'm
gonna
put
on
them
of
all
the
various
ones
that
we
we
talked
about
is
which
ones
are
genican
going
to
generate
economic
activity
first.
P
H
Q
O
H
R
S
R
Off
of
as
we're
going
through,
the
parks
plan,
we're
looking
at
you
know,
standards
across
the
country
that
were
actually
short
pools,
public
pools.
You
know
a
size
of
our
community,
so
if
we
were
to
remove
that
pool,
would
actually
drop
below
even
a
father
deficit
of
having
public
pools
here
in
our
community.
So
that's
that
in
the
neighbors,
when
we
had
our
public
meeting
and
and
I
don't
know
if
we've
had
a
single
survey
come
back
where
it
said
not
to
have.
It
remain
a
pool
of
some
of
some
magnitude.
H
H
Some
option
is
to
bring
you
back
some
options
as
to
how
that
might
be
funded,
based
upon
the
amount
of
money
that
we
need
and
the
options
that
we've
got
and
I've
heard
some
things
very
loud
and
clear
about
things
that
some
people
like
in
that
they
don't
like,
and
so
we'll
try
to
fashion
that
together
in
something
that
would
give
you
options
that
you
could
consider.
Okay,.
A
A
J
I
may
I
think
part
of
what
you
were
looking
for
is
guidance
on
that
piece.
I
would
be
just
to
know
if
even
a
majority
of
the
council
would
even
want
to
talk
about
increasing
video
gaming
fees
in
general,
because
it
would
seem
moot
to
spend
staff
time
and
resources
if
this
council
isn't
even
willing
to
raise
the
fees
at
all.
M
M
O
Okay,
I'm
not
interested
either
I
mean
I.
You
know,
I
think
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
tie
all
of
these
fees
to
something
that
actually
makes
sense,
and-
and
this
we
hear
feels
like
it,
I
mean
I
I,
don't
know
I'm
trying
to
find
a
better
word
for
it,
but
it
almost
feels
like
I,
can
see
how
he
can
feel
like
a
money
grab
to
somebody
on
the
other
side,
because
it's
not
exactly
related
so
I
don't
want
to
do
it
all.
A
P
So
I
am
NOT
interested
in
talking
about
raising
the
fees
either,
but
I
am
interested
in
talking
about
a
moratorium,
because
I
I
saw
the
blueprints
of
the
building
that
you're
talking
about,
and
the
fact
that
he
it
looks
like
the
entire
building
is
specifically
designed
around
having
a
video
lounge
in
the
middle
of
the
building.
It
looks
like
that
was
the
center
concept
and
they
moved
out
from
there
and
that
bothers
me,
though,.
J
A
Right:
okay,
okay,
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
I
just
want
to
clarify-
or
at
least
just
look
a
commissioner
I
see-
maybe
not
on
a
daily
but
on
a
very
regular
basis,
the
dramatic
cost
to
taxpayers
of
mixing
gambling
and
liquor,
and
we
had
a
situation
where
we
spent
100
to
50
choices
where
we
spend
hundreds
of
thousand
dollars
on
legal
fees,
we're
gambling
and
liquor
or
combined
now.
Does
the
machine
cost?
A
L
I've
been
is
shocking
to
me,
I've
been
the
director
now
for
almost
in
July
will
be
ten
years,
and
so
that's
been
a
long
haul
and
I
wish
that
we
would
have
made
some
I
look
at
that
and
wish
it
would
have
made
more
progress
in
our
streets,
but
I
want
to
then
turn
back
and
say
to
give
some
credit
whenever
I
started.
There
was
a
time
when
we
spend
zero
dollars.
There
was
a
year
whenever
I
first
started.
L
You
know
we
have
repeated
this
and
you've
continued
to
provide
additional
funding
of
which
we're
thankful
for,
but
we
can
objectively
say
that
that
we
just
as
Steven
pointed
out,
he
was
repeating
what
what
he
and
I
had
talked
about,
that
that
we're
still
at
that
we're
still
not
even
catching
back
up
we're
still.
You
know
still
behind
the
eight
ball,
with
how
much
how
much
money
we
are
putting
into
our
streets
I
think
we
need
to
increase
in
you
to
expand.
L
Our
pavement
preservation
stretch
the
pavement
life
of
our
of
our
streets,
but
but
what
I
do
want
to
talk
about
it?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
try
to
turn
that
corner
I?
Don't
want
ten
years
from
now,
hopefully
that
they'll
continue
to
be
working
with
the
city,
and
hopefully
you'll
have
me,
but
in
ten
years
or
not
I
hope
we
are
so
much
further
along
I
I'd
want
to
turn
that
corner
with
some
of
our
infrastructure.
How
do
we
do
that?
L
This
is
one
mechanism
we're
not
trying
to
say
this
is
the
only
mechanism
but
we're
trying
to
say
make
some
suggestions
we'll
talk
to
you
about
how
some
other
communities
doing
it
I'm.
Currently,
in
2014,
we
did
implement
a
local
motor
fuel
tax
of
four
cents.
Now
we
utilize
some
of
that
not
just
for
our
streets,
but
we
also
do
pavement
preservation,
sidewalks,
sidewalk
ramps
and
that's
something
that
is
lost.
L
Sometimes
in
our
conversation
we
have
a
quarter
cent
sales
tax
that
is
put
toward
our
streets,
but
we
have
about
a
million
dollars
out
of
that,
just
over
a
million
dollars,
that's
taken
toward
our
sidewalks
and
that's
great,
but
that
does
that
does
take
away
from
from
some
of
what
we
can.
We
can
do
with
that.
So,
let's
talk
about
what
potential
we
could
do
if
we
did
increase
an
additional
four
cents
that
would
allow
us
to
do
additional
resurfacing
that
doesn't
exponentially
increase
our
sidewalk
program
that
does
increase
some
of
the
ramps.
L
Our
ad
a
rams
are
regulated,
federally
regulated
improvements
we
have
to
make
so
we
will
have
to
increase
incrementally
some
of
our
ramps,
but
that
that
two
point
three,
the
majority
of
that
about
2.2,
is
going
to
go
purely
toward
our
street
resurfacing.
Now
this
isn't
as
much
fun
as
a
way
pool.
This
is
as
much
fun
as
as
something
that
is
a
great
year-round
economic
driver,
but
I
will
say
that
this
can.
It
was
just
we
really
do
from
an
economic
perspective.
L
We
have
to
start
tipping
providing
a
tipping
point
for
our
infrastructure,
and
so
we
are
going
to
start
solving
our
underground
sewers.
We,
as
a
council,
has
provided
a
mechanism
for
that,
but
I
wanted
to
hit
something.
I
had
recently
completed
a
master's
of
Public
Administration,
and
one
of
the
classes
I
had
taken
was
a
Budget
and
Finance,
and
they
talked
about
these
types
of
taxes
and
and
how
you
keep
these
in
perspective.
As
you
look
at
this
and
it
it
talks
about
any
kind
of
consumption
taxes
going
to
by
nature
be
regressive.
L
It
just
is
you
know
from
a
consumption
perspective,
you
know
water
any
of
those
kind
of
as
you
use
it,
that
it
will
be
a
regressive
tax.
You
do
talk
about
from
a
benefit
standpoint
that
the
positive
aspect
of
a
local
motor
fuel
tax
is.
It
benefits
the
roads
that
people
are
driving
on.
Some
communities
will
even
increase
more
of
their
diesel
fees.
You
can
do
that
because
trucks
are
a
major
damage,
but
but
the
volume
of
cars
it
does
have
a
major
impact
on
our
streets.
So
that
is
that's
something
for
us
to
consider.
L
In
addition,
local
motor
fuel
tax
on
our
gas
does
actually
capture
people
from
outside
of
our
community
coming
work,
and
that
can
be
a
bad
thing.
You
might
say:
well,
I
discourages
it,
but
I,
don't
think
many
people.
We
can
talk
about
some
studies
that
are
out
there
that
talk
about
the
impact
on
our
on
our
gases,
gas.
But
you
talk
about
economic
neutrality
and
that's
what
I'd
like
to
discuss
is.
There
was
a
2000
study
that
was
done.
That
talked
about
that
there
was
no.
L
It
was
unclear
whether
motor
fuel
tax
rates,
impacted
fueling
prices
and
impacted
people's
behaviors.
So
there
isn't
a
lot
of
data
points,
one
way
or
the
other
to
justify
the
impact
to
it.
But
whenever
we
did
this
in
2014,
we
did
try
to
track
it
as
a
staff
we
were
watching
and
and
it
it
is
in
a
science,
but
we
did
try
to
look
and
it
did
not
appear
to
be
negligible
differences
prior
to
the
town
of
normal,
also
implementing
a
four
cent
local
motor
fuel
tax.
L
So
from
that
standpoint
we
really
did
try
to
to
capture
some
of
that
data.
When
we
talk
about
administration
costs,
if
we
did
implement
that
four
cent,
local
motor
fuel
tax,
there's
already
a
mechanism
in
place
of
how
the
city
captures
that
data
captures
that
revenue
and
it
would
so
it
go
directly
to
that.
L
There's
no
extra
needed
staff
for
us
to
implement
this,
and
so
what
we're
just
trying
to
do
is
be
able
to
provide
that
revenue
act
adequacy,
and
so
what
we're
saying
is
we
need
to
find
some
sort
of
funding
we're
trying
to
find
the
best
mechanism
to
do
that,
and
so
tonight
we're
just
providing
and
wanting
to
get
some
input
from
Council
on.
How
do
we
turn
that
corner?
Let's
look
at
some
other
areas,
some
other
communities.
L
We
aren't
the
only
ones
Springfield's
when
Quincy
or
some
of
the
only
ones
that
hadn't
implemented
anything
yet,
but
you
know
Rock
Island.
You
can
see
Champaign
normal
peak
and
us
Peoria
or
banna
Danville
Decatur
you
go
on
the
actually.
Some
of
the
revenues
go
up:
DeKalb
Carbondale
and
when
you
start
getting
at
a
Naperville,
Cicero
Evanston,
those
are
those
are
Chicago
burbs.
We
understand
that,
but
but
there
there
are
a
wide
variety
of
across
the
the
state
people
who
implement
that
local
motor
fuel
tax,
and
so
one
thing
we
thought
I.
L
You
know
visual
visual
aids
help
they
really
do
what,
whenever
you
say,
if
we
implemented
this,
you
know
it
I.
Always
am
hesitant
to
put
maps
on
the
screen
with
future
resurfacing
because
there
they
can
be
taken
as
promises,
but
what
we
try
to
do
is
I.
We
actually
asked
our
staff
in
about
five
years.
You
current
funding
level.
What
would
be
our
next
streets?
We
would
hit
you
know,
and
so,
and
so
we
said
what,
if
we
were
able
to
raise
that
additional,
you
know
funding
over
the
next
five
years.
L
What
kind
of
streets
could
we
do
in
this
community?
And
you
can
see
these
are
actual
streets
on
our
list
that
are
needed,
they're
needed
now,
many
of
them,
but
so,
but
but
they're
not
gonna,
be
done
in
the
next
few
years.
Unless
funding
levels,
change
and
so
we're
trying
to
say,
is
there
there
is
need,
hopefully
at
we
tried
to
say
well
what
are
streets
in
some
of
the
various
areas
across
the
entire
community.
You
can
see
that
will
make
a
would
make
a
very
big
difference.
L
One
of
the
last
numbers
I
would
like
to
give
you,
because
we
like
to
give
you
data
at
our
current
level
of
funding
for
streets.
We
get
about
4.9
centerline
miles.
Every
year
so
four
point
one
nine
centerline
miles
every
year
at
our
current
funding
level
for
resurfacing.
If
you
looked
at
that
over,
we
have
324
centerline
miles.
That
is
a
66
year
turnaround
for
us
to
hit
every
street
in
the
community.
It
is
just
under
where
we
need
to
be,
and
that's
why
we're
saying
we
are
just.
L
We
haven't
reached
that
tipping
point
yet
with
something
like
this
local
motor
fuel
tax
funding,
we're
that
were
put
into
place.
That
would
tip
more
of
that
scale
to
where
it
is
back
to
a
a
40
year
turnaround.
Now
that
seems
like
wow
that
still
isn't
even
close
enough
to
where
we
need
to
be.
We
are
hoping
with
some
of
this
pavement
preservation
that
we've
been
implementing
sigmund,
really
having
a
push
and
you're
going
to
see.
Public
works
really
start
driving
that
home
I'm
really
pushing
our
staff
every
year
say.
Can
we
stretch
that?
L
Can
we
do
more
of
that?
It's
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
for
the
dollars,
but
we
think
there's
a
lot
of
benefit
to
it,
and
a
lot
of
other
communities
have
been
visiting
Bloomington
trying
to
see
some
of
the
benefits.
So
we
actually
have
some
good
data
we're
trying
to
gather
even
more
data
on
the
benefits
of
it.
But
again,
what
we
were
asking
for
tonight
is
some
healthy
dialogue
around.
G
Q
M
Eighty
percent
of
that
is
likely
to
go
down
to
the
local
level
for
funding,
so
we're
at
eight
cents.
Now,
if
we
pass
this-
and
you
can't
answer
that
question
but
I
think
I
think
we
have
to
be
cognizant
of
the
fact
were
in
a
in
a
much
larger
environment
that
we
don't
have
any
control
over.
So
I
worry
about
that.
You.
L
Sure
and
that's
understood,
I
actually,
you
know
I
anticipated
this
question.
There
is
some
federal
proposal
for
that.
So
that
is
that's
something.
That's
out
there.
We
don't
know
timeline.
We
don't
know
what
level
is
support,
but
but
you're
right
from
from
a
federal
standpoint
that
whole
system
Scott,
you
brought
this
up
in
the
past.
That
whole
system
is
I'll,
say
broken
I'll.
L
Just
say
that
from
how
we
fund
our
infrastructure
standpoint,
but
from
a
from
a
local
from
a
local
perspective,
we
have
to
deal
with
what
we
have
and
so
we're
trying
to
find
fair
and
equitable
measurements
to
be
able
to
deal
with
what
we've
got
in
the
future.
If
it
radically
changes,
we
might
have
to
change
our
model,
but
so
would
everybody
else
and
we'd
have
to
evaluate
it.
At
that
point,.
J
You
Jim-
and
you
still
awards
from
in
that
piece
about
the
federal
government
and
I'm
talking
about
this.
Although
I
have
zero
faith
in
them,
accomplishing
anything
to
this
tune
so
I
or
something
they
don't
think
about.
However,
I
guess
I
would
say,
I
remember
in
past
conversations
we
always
talk
about
that
10
million
dollars
a
year
being
too
much
work
for
our
community.
Sure
and
I
was
looking
at
that
map
that
you
had
up
there
and
it
was
a
11.5
million.
L
J
And
I'll
just
say
that
that
motor
fuel
tax
is
pretty
much
dead
on
arrival
for
me,
but
you
do
question
that
your
King
is.
How
would
you
fund
it?
Otherwise
I
would
be
interested
in
exploring
some
sort
of
vehicle
sticker
program.
So
if
you
have
a
car,
that's
newer.
You
pay
a
certain
amount,
because
if
you
divide
2.3
million
by
our
number
of
residents,
it's
about
30
bucks
per
person.
J
If
you
find
some
way
that,
if
you
purchase
say
a
truck
that
has
low
fuel
mileage,
you
pay
more
than
somebody
who
say
has
a
hybrid
I.
Just
am
uncomfortable
with
with
that
piece.
And
if
you
have
a
super
old
car
say
you
know,
20
years
old,
you
don't
pay
it
at
all,
because
there
might
be
some
of
their
mitigating
factors
there.
But
I
know
that
I
deal
a
lot
with
with
cars
that
are
parked
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
they
have
to
get
towed
or
something
like
that.
J
Wouldn't
it
be
nice
if
we
had
a
record
of
who
that
owner
was
so,
we
can
contact
them,
maybe
hold
them
accountable
for
that
type
of
of
issue.
Instead
of
trying
to
do
this
piece
but
I
hear
all
the
arguments
about
you
know,
30%
is
going
to
come
from
people
outside
of
our
community,
but
for
cents
more
is
just
something:
I'm,
not
comfortable.
J
J
D
A
map
may
or
may
ask
a
question,
also
so
I
think
when
Jim.
Maybe
when
you
ask
for
questions,
maybe
you
were
looking
for
questions
about
the
information
you
presented
and
I
think
we
very
quickly
got
into
some
funding
and
budgeting
questions
and
that
type
of
thing
I
didn't
know
if
the
other,
the
other
topic
steve
has
been
up
here
and
as
we've
talked
through
some
of
the
budget
questions
and
so
I'm,
just
looking
for
some
clarification,
Jim
are
you?
A
S
A
H
A
Then
the
operational
budget
and
capital
budget,
we
do
have
past
our
capital
improvement
plans
and
obviously
we
had
direction
with
the
O'neil
Poole
to
move
forward,
maybe
not
as
aggressively
as
we
wanted,
but
we
couldn't
agree
on
money.
At
some
point,
though,
we
have
to
fund
our
capital
improvement
plans
and
that's
up
to
this
council,
that's
not
up
to
staff
to
find
our
capital
improvement
plan
some
way,
and
there
will
not
be
a
way
that
we
like
that
thing
that
we
know
all
the
woman
helman.
Thank.
K
L
This
time,
staff
actually
does
not
I
mean
a
short
of
other.
You
know
other
mitigating
cuts.
There
are
no
fees
that
we're
currently
looking
at
this
was.
This
was
one
that
we
thought
was
a
direct
court.
You
know
correlation
to
the
type
of
impact
that
happens
to
the
roads.
Now
I
did
mention
diesel
the
there
are
some
communities
out
there
that
will
actually,
you
know,
charge
different
fees
for
diesel
usage
as
well,
but
again,
I'm,
not
that
that's
a
different
issue.
Obviously,.
L
I
mean
and
again
utility
taxes,
Gustin,
and
that
has
a
minor
in
honestly.
Overall,
that
has
a
minor
usage,
so
I
don't
want
to
make
it
sound,
like
that's
a
direct
tie,
but
again
most
of
the
vehicles
right
now
are
there
was
you
know
there.
Obviously,
there's
a
push
for
some
alternative
fuel
vehicles.
There's
a
lot
out
there
on
the
horizon.
So
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
Mull
models
might
change
in
the
next
five
years,
but
for
now
that
we're
just
trying
to
find
something
to
deal
with
what
we
have
I
just.
K
K
K
L
That
I
did
reach
out
to
my
counterpart
at
the
town
of
normal
and
officially,
you
know
the
town
of
normal
has
had
no
public
discussion
on.
If
the
city
of
limits
in
were
to
implement
this,
would
they
do
the
same?
So
you
know
that
I'm
not
saying
they
would
not
in
the
future,
but
as
of
now
they
have
not.
It's.
A
Not
been
on
their
agenda,
great,
that's
correct,
and
in
the
one
of
the
things
that
you
did
allude
to
some
of
the
research
that
seems
to
show
it
has
little
to
none
existent
impact
of
all
of
the
International
political
factors
that
influence
how
much
we
pay
for
what
we
get
at
the
pump.
A
for
penny
gallon
gas
tax
is
not
usually
a
significant
one,
but
anyway
all
the
woman,
Bray.
I
Question
in
regards
to
what's
showing
in
the
capital
needs
chart
on
its
additional
street
resurfacing
and
brick
streets
and
it's
showing
eleven
point:
five
million
dollars.
So
I
had
a
question
about
that,
because
when
we
looked
at
the
brick
street
plan,
I
think
a
majority
of
the
council
liked
the
plan,
but
we
did
not
vote
to
fund
the
plan.
Just
the
eleven
point.
Five
include
brick
streets,
the.
L
Work
that
we're
talking
about
right
now
with
this
four
cent
local
motor
fuel
tax
does
not
include
unless
council
provides
direction,
otherwise
does
not
include
funding
toward
Brook
streets
and
and
again
you
know,
I'm
the
one
that
put
four
the
brick
Street
master
plan,
I
think
they're
good
to
preserve.
We,
we
are
really
behind
right
now
on
our
street
resurfacing
and
so
we're
really
trying
to
get
caught
up
on
that.
So,
unless
directed
otherwise
and
from
a
staff
perspective,
I
would
say
we
need
every
dollar
toward
our
existing
asphalt
streets.
So.
I
So,
as
we
look
at
this
additional
street
resurfacing
that
you're
looking
for
I
guess,
I
would
favor
a
combo
approach
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
that
I,
like
the
idea
of
potentially
a
slight
raise,
maybe
to
the
gas
tax
we've
seen
that
there's
a
projected
federal
four
cent,
I
think
I
know:
I
saw
a
federal,
2
cent
possible
projected
increase.
So
what?
If?
What?
If
we
did
a
2
cent?
And
we,
if
you
anticipate
the
feds,
are
going
to
do
2
cent
and
then
what?
I
If
we
did
some
kind
of
an
additional
fee
on
top
of
folks
who
aren't
paying
that
the
ones
with
some
kind
of
registration
fee
for
a
hybrid
or
electric
car,
because
those
folks
have
the
same
skin
in
the
game
that
regards
to
keeping
the
streets
passable
and
repaired.
So
that's
just
some
thoughts.
Well,.
A
Then
that's
what
the
a
licensing
if
the
city
got
into
the
Minister
of
the
business
as
alderman
block
suggested
of
licensing.
That
is
something
that
you
could
use.
I,
think
we
would
staff
doesn't
have
the
information
on
that.
The
council
needs
information
on
how
much,
if
anything
that
would
bring
back
to
us,
is
it
how
difficult
is
it
to
administer
mm-hmm
and
that
that's
back
to
that
model
that.
I
A
N
You
I'm
not
really
in
favor
of
raising
it
another
four
cents.
The
last
time
we
raised
it,
four
cents
I
looked
at
all
the
gas
prices
and
saw
what
their
gas
taxes
were
and
if
you
raise
it
for
cents,
it
does
not
change
the
price
of
gas
any
month,
any
more
than
that,
though
it
does,
and
if
we
tacked
on
an
additional
four
cents,
people
would
go
to
normal
to
get
their
gas
and
you
know
we'd
be
losing
big-time,
so
I
just
can't
go
for
that.
N
I
would
agree
to
maybe
a
one
or
two
cent
increase,
and
you
know
we
could
ask
our
partners
for
normal
if
they
would
do
the
same
and
if
they
would,
that
would
be
great
for
all
of
us.
So
that's
where
I
am
and
I
also
think
that
what
aldrin
Brae
talked
about
is
a
good
idea
to,
and
alder
and
black
looking
at
some
fees
for
vehicles
over.
O
Thank
you,
Jim
I
I
think
you
know
I
just
speaking
about
the
proposal
to
to
look
into
a
fee.
For
you
know,
hybrid
vehicles
or
electric
I
I
know
I'm
a
little
bit
reluctant
with
that,
because
I
I
know
generally
people
have
been
resistant
to
it
to
in
order
to
I
guess
encourage
the
use
of
those
vehicles,
because
people
feel
that
it's
better
for
the
environment.
So
the
more
you
know
I
think.
If
you
start
to
to
impose
a
fee,
then
you
provide
a
disincentive
for
people
to
use
the
solar
vehicle.
O
So
I
think
if
you
were
to
do
that,
you
have
to
be
very
careful
how
you
tailor
that,
in
addition
to
the
administration
of
it,
which
would
probably
be
somewhat
of
a
challenge
for
for
staff
I'm
also,
you
know
I'm
not
in
favor
of
the
of
an
additional
four
cents
for
the
local
motor
fuel
tax
any
at
all.
Actually
because
I,
you
know,
I
am
starting
to
look
at
the
aggregate,
all
the
fees
and
and-
and
you
know,
increases
that
we've
had.
O
You
know
altogether
I'd
like
to
see
that
first
before
you
know,
I
I
make
a
decision.
I
mean
we've
increased
sewer
fees,
we're
talking
about
increasing
solid
waste
at
the
same
time.
So
when
you
start
to
put
everything
together,
I
think
it
starts
you.
He
may
become
a
little
bit
burdensome
for
for
residents
and
then
the
the
last
thing
to
I
and
and
I
don't
know,
I
mean
I'd.
This
is
more
of
an
interesting
thing.
I
I'd
like
to
see
what
happens
at
the
federal
level.
First,
especially
and
I,
know
it's.
O
O
L
Know
from
some
of
our
professional
organizations
with
professional
engineers
have
you
have
done
and
looked
at
some
of
that
you
know.
While
it's
not
very
clear
as
far
as
the
impact,
it
does
look
like,
there's
a
lot
of
leveraging
of
local
dollars
on
how
how
that
would
happen,
and
so
that
it
it
doesn't
seem
for
a
community
for
a
metro
community.
Our
size,
I,
don't
know
that
it'll
be
as
advantageous
as
we
would
like
nor
fit
all
of
our
needs.
L
I'll
just
say
that,
and
so,
just
from
from
from
a
standpoint
of
a
person
who
has
seen
our
our
community,
our
infrastructure
continue
to
go
downhill,
I
understand.
If
not
this
I'll
go
back
to
then
what?
Because
you
know
this
won't
you
know
magically
get
better,
so
we
have
to
find
some
way
streets,
I
hear
about
every
day
as
I
know.
All
of
you
do,
and
this
matters
a
lot.
So
we've
we've
objectively
done
everything
we
can
to
get
metrics
now
it's
a
matter
of
how
do
we
fix
it?
All.
D
You
know
street
resurfacing
and
brick
streets
to
me.
There's
just
street
resurfacing.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
do
a
little
straw
poll
in
order
to
finally
get
that
done,
but
but
somehow
that
seems
to
me
to
offer
some
some
guidance
to
staff
going
forward.
Appreciated
need
to
get
clarification.
I'm
also
I
would
say.
I'm
interested
I'm,
not
prepared
to
say
I,
would
support
the
four
cents
sales
tax,
the
the
motor
fuel
tax
I,
am
willing
to
continue
to
talk
about
it.
D
If
and
only
if
we
find
some
other
cuts
to
help
offset
the
additional
spent
expense
that
citizens
and
residents
would
incur
by
having
to
pay
pay
more
for
gas.
We
simply
have
to
come
to
grips
with
the
fact
and
I'm
sorry,
but
but
message
has
to
be
made
clear:
we
are
in
a
declining
revenue,
okay,
condition.
Here
in
the
city,
we
were
experiencing
some
profound
changes
with
what
the
larger
business
community
here
and-
and
we
have
to.
D
We
have
to
start
to
come
to
grips
with
the
fact
that
we
have
to
start
to
cut
expenses
somewhere
and
again,
that's
gonna,
be
the
trade-off
for
me.
I
would
be
willing
to
continue
that
did
say:
support
continue,
talking
about
local
motor
fuel
tax
increase
if
there
were
some
cuts
somewhere
else
that
could
be.
You
know
either
perhaps
returned
you
know
to
the
residents
or
we
could
reallocate
some
cuts
somewhere
else,
move
that
to
streets
and
perhaps
less
in
the
amount
of
a
local
motor
fuel
tax
increase
that
we're
looking
at
I
think
all.
P
Is
that
correct?
Okay,
so
brick
streets
or
the
streets
to
me
right
and
I?
Think
it
taking
that
verbage
out
does
eliminate
some
confusion,
I
I'm
perfectly
fine.
With
the
four
cent
motor
fuel
tax,
you
know
I
used
to
drive
a
significant
amount.
All
around
central
Illinois
fixing
computers,
I
filled
up
my
tank
once
a
week,
it's
72
cents,
a
tank,
that's
two
dollars
and
eighty
cents
per
per
month.
P
If
you
using
a
work
truck,
you've
got
a
Ford
f-150,
it's
got
a
pair
of
gas
tanks
on
it
and
you
probably
had
a
55
gallons
to
refill
on
that.
It's
nine
dollars
a
month
and
they're
putting
significantly
more
tear
on
the
streets
than
my
car
is
so
to
me.
This
is
one
of
those
scenarios
where
we're
looking
at
a
yes,
it's
an
increase.
Yes,
it's
a
burden
on
the
business
community
and
I
much
as
I.
P
A
You
before
we
go
to
the
other
two
I
would
absolutely
concur
with
what
you've
said,
and
the
other
thing
is.
Is
that
it'd
be
hard
to
believe
that
normal
doesn't
have
the
same
issues
and
that
they
go
into
that
business
or
that
there
even
be
a
price
difference?
I
think
we've
seen
that
and
but
the
bottom
line
is
we've
passed
the
community,
a
comprehensive
plan.
Excuse
me
comprehensive
plan,
a
capital
improvement
plan
and
we
all
agree
on
those
things.
A
M
Want
to
just
remind
us
that
I
had
asked
Melissa
Hahn
to
put
together
a
list
of
our
partnership
sponsorships
and
donations.
What
she
did
it's
a
very
comprehensive
list,
it's
over
4.7
million
dollars
and
I
hope
we
take
the
time
to
make
sure
that
the
money
that
were
sharing
with
partners
are
in
keeping
with
all
of
our
priorities.
M
I
Now
is
the
plan
lovely
and
wood
wood.
It
would
be
a
beautiful
I
guess
addition,
I
guess
to
the
community-
yes,
and
maybe
there's
some
ways
to
find
either
funding
models
with
public-private,
so
that
folks,
who
want
that
in
there
is
their
street
they
can
pay
for
it
blocks,
could
go
together
and
pay
for
it.
I
don't
know
there
may
be
some
models
on
the
East
Coast,
because
there's
a
you
know,
there's
some
things,
that's
interesting!
I
That
happened
in
Baltimore
in
Philadelphia
in
that
regard
and
in
the
90s
right,
but
III
don't
think
that
our
city
owes
folks
to
go
back
for
the
taxpayers
to
pay
to
maintain
something
like
a
Broad
Street
in
front
of
their
homes,
considering
the
extraordinary
costs
associated
with
them,
so
that
that's
kind
of
where
I
was
coming
from
when
I
was
talking
about
getting
this
big
street
off.
That
line
with
street
resurfacing
I.
A
L
A
All
right
at
this
point,
I'm
gonna,
ask
for
a
straw
poll.
I,
think
I
know
what
with
what
the
answer
is,
or
maybe
it's
a
combo.
But
anyway
the
motion
would
be
that
that
staff
draft
an
ordinance
to
increase
the
local
modal
fuel
tax
by
four
cents
to
help
fund
an
increase
in
street
resurfacing,
not
Britax,
and
to
bring
it
back
to
the
council
for
final
action
within
three
months
and
I'll
start
out
with
all
the
woman
Brae
around
no.
I
N
D
Yeah
I
mean
I
I
I'm
open
to
looking
at
it.
I,
don't
know
what
form
it's
gonna
take
four
cents,
two
cents
I
mean
I'm
open
to
to
us,
looking
at
it,
but
again
only
if
it's
offset
by
some
cuts
elsewhere
in
the
budget,
so
I'm
not
prepared
to
say
I'm
I'm,
not
for
it
or
against
it,
because
we've
got
to
still
come
some
competing
ideas
up
here.
You
know
four
cents:
two
cents,
you
know
two
cents
and
a
wheel
tax
stay
I
mean
what
would
not
sure
what
it
is.
D
The
final,
but
the
end
game
looks
like
you're
with
this.
I
would
be
willing
to
continue
to
be
part
of
a
conversation
about
it
with
as
part
of
a
budget
conversation
and
so
forth,
but
only
and
I
would
say:
Ken's
dress
only
if
we
have
some
cups,
some
cuts
elsewhere
elsewhere,
because
we
have
to
deal
with
reality
here.
P
Absolutely,
and
in
terms
of
when
we
get
to
the
conversation
about
cuts,
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
where
we
go
next
on
that
I
know
that
you
know
the
kind
of
two
ideas
that
have
been
brought
forward
so
far
have
been
voted
down
so
I,
don't
know.
Even
I
haven't
even
seen
another
proposal
at
this
point,
so
you
know
I
mean
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
where
we
go
next
on
that
when,
when
Rhenish,
no
more
proposals
in
front
of
us
to
actually
make
any
cuts
right
so
right.
A
And
then
I
think
that's
what
all
the
woman,
when
we
were
all
the
woman
them
a
Holloman
had
suggested
you
know
what
are
some
of
the
other
options.
I
suggested
well,
property
taxes.
She
propria
noted
you
there's.
No.
We
can't
certainly
do
that.
Even
if
we
wanted
to
this
year
is
the
property
tax
better
than
a
gas
tax.
That's
another
question
that
you
know
we
would
have
to
answer
dealing
with
either
this
or
other
things.
The
one
thing
we
do
know
is
that
motor
fuel
tax
has
to
be
spent
by
law.
Is
that
correct?
It.
L
A
At
this
point,
we,
you
know
I'm
not
sure
what
kind
of
direction
this
is
we
have
for
knows
and
then
for
condition
airy.
Yet
what
two
yeses
and
two
maybes,
depending
on
what
the
the
proposal
might
be
at
the
end
of
the
day,
though
I
think
it.
What
we
really
have
to
do
is
is
understand
for
those
of
you
who
voted,
no,
that's
great,
but
what
are
we
going
to?
How
are
we
going
to
pay
for
it?
Cuts
fine,
then
we're
open
to
listening
to
them.
These.
O
A
Did
not
I
have
for
knows
too,
when
that
did
have
included
as
compromise
ultimen
sage.
You
said
if
it's
offset
by
cut
and
then
two
yeses,
so
it's
for
two.
No,
but
there
were
two
compromises
and
we
don't
have
a
million
here
and
obviously
this
is
not
a
vote
so
I'm
not
weighing
in
on
that
I
mean
I.
What
I
was
suggesting
is
obviously
the
end
of
the
day
we
have
to
either
we
do
nothing
or
we
fund
it.
Yeah
did
carry
I.
M
A
And
I
think
that
that
denies
I
said
I
thought
that
was
an
excellent
suggestion
and
that
may
very
well
be
something
that
if
the
council
would
like
to
bring
that
back,
that
would
be
wonderful
and
would
be
so.
I'd
certainly
be
more
than
happy
with.
You
know
the
city
manager
to
put
that
on
the
agenda
and
then
that
could
even
be
earmarked
for
street
resurfacing
or
if
we
do
have
some
a
couple
people
say:
support
for
a
city,
vehicle
registration.
If
the
council
had
want
to
talk
about
that,
we
can
certainly
talk
about
that.
A
J
Don't
know
what
the
form
of
that
would
take,
but
but
to
Karen's
point
that
four
point:
seven
million
I
guess,
instead
of
it
just
haven't,
got
linger
out
there.
But
can
we
give
some
maybe
directions
of
staff
since
we're
having
this
conversation
about
what
if
we
were
interested
in
and
how
we
would
talk
about,
that
I
mean
I
might
suggest
just
having
a
meeting,
maybe
sometime
in
March,
a
committee
of
the
whole
or
April
in
which
we
decide
these?
This
is
what
it
all
looks
like.
J
M
M
J
P
A
H
Yes,
what
we
talked
about
that
the
staff
was
next
to
a
week
when
we
come
back
on,
the
22nd
will
have
a
doodle
poll
back
from
you,
and
there
were
three
dates
that
they
were
proposed:
that
Saturday
in
March
10
the
Saturday
before
it,
and
also
the
Saturday
afterwards
and
we'll
get
some
opinion
back
on
and
bringing
it
back
to
you
next
week.
Great.
A
P
You
mayor
City
Council,
so
this
evening,
I've
just
got
a
brief
presentation
to
give
to
you
on
update
on
our
emergency
response
times.
Every
month
the
fire
department
provides
the
city
manager,
monthly
city
managers,
monthly
reports,
and
we
have
just
demonstrated
a
constant
and
steady
improvement
over.
P
The
last
excuse
me
said:
constant,
steady
improvement
on
those
response
times,
based
on
changes
that
have
been
made
in
our
operations
over
the
last
two
years,
a
few
of
those
of
the
key
changes
that
include
number
one
partnering
with
Public
Works
and
improving
the
traffic
preemption
infrastructure
to
working
with
Bloomington
dispatch
and
upgrading
our
run
cards
and
dispatching
protocols.
Three
realigning
all
of
our
department
apparatus
for
the
most
efficient
deployment
of
those
resources.
P
The
presentation
that
I
gave
back
in
December
I
provided
enough
counsel
with
an
update
on
the
response
times,
comparing
our
2016
on
our
2017
response
data.
If,
if
you
remember,
we
showed
some
significant
improvements
between
2016
data
and
2017
on
our
average
response
time
for
EMS
calls.
We
improves
11
seconds.
P
Sheer
number
of
runs
that
we
were
generating
by
sending
the
appropriate
resource,
but
we
increase
the
number
of
runs,
even
though
our
incidents
only
increased
by
like
69,
we
increase
those
total
runs
by
over
3000.
So
it's
just
because
of
the
sheer
number
of
calls
that
we
were
having.
We
were
responding
to
also
in
that
presentation.
I
spoke
about
how
we
have
two
major
components
that
impact
that
respond
that
have
a
negative
impact
on
that
response
time.
The
first
one,
of
course,
is
the
over
utilization
of
medic
one.
P
The
sheer
number
of
medical
calls
that
we
have
in
headquarters
primary
response
district
and
then
the
second
part
of
that
is
the
travel
distance
in
our
northeast,
which
were
obvious,
which
is
obvious
so
currently
we're
addressing
the
the
first
one
by
increasing
staffing
to
staff
that
second
ambulance.
This
isn't
something
they
can
that
we
can
do
overnight.
We
were
in
the
process
with
eight
individuals
in
our
basic
Fire
Academy
in
Peoria.
P
The
second
part
is
that
we're
trying
to
address
is
I'm
currently
working
with
the
Illinois
fire
chiefs
Association,
and
we
are
doing
a
station
location
study
for
the
Northeast
and,
along
with
that
study,
we're
also
looking
at
a
station
performance
study
for
all
of
our
current
fire
stations.
So
we've
got
the
first
part
in
place.
We've
got
some
data
that
has
showed
we're,
making
those
improvements,
constant,
steady
improvements.
The
second
ambulance
will
have
another
impact.
That'll
also
change
our
community
risk
at
that
point
in
time
and
change
that
response
model
change.
P
The
number
of
runs
that
we
are
responding
to,
but
again
we
need
that
data
to
put
forward
before
we
can
show
that
impact.
So
again,
the
next
part
of
that
is
going
to
be
in
our
capital
budget
next
year.
We're
asking
for
you
to
allocate
the
resources
for
the
capital
budget
so
that
we
can
secure
a
piece
of
property
in
that
Northeast
again,
I
don't
have
the
location
ready
to
present
at
this
point
time,
but
again
in
that
budget,
we've
asked
for
resources
to
be
able
to
do
that.
A
I
I
wanted
to
comment
to
that
just
Thank
You
chief
for
all
that
you
do
and
for
these
studies
it's
so
important
when
we
think
about
what
a
city
delivers,
our
fire
services,
it's
it's.
It's
number
one
up
there
alongside
our
police,
and
so
these
are
the
core
services
we
have
to
deliver
them.
We
have
to
deliver
them
to
every
citizen
in
a
manner
that
gives
them
the
best
chance
for
recovery
from
this
unexpected
event,
and
so
thank
you
for
everything
you
do.
Thank
you.