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February 12, 2018 - City Council Special Session
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A
B
And
again,
just
so
that
everyone
understands
all
the
Wonder
Bread
Company
in
and
that's
the
the
voice
that
you
hear
over
the
microphone
and
let
the
record
show
that
our
distinguished
councilman
mumbly
has
just
arrived.
Okay,
oh
thank
you
very
much,
I
wonder
if
we
should
have
a
and
that
can
be
by
voice
vote,
I'm
assuming
okay.
Is
there
a
motion
to
allow
all
the
woman
Kim
braid
to
participate
electronically,
Wow?
Okay,
that
was
thank
you
lightning.
B
B
You're
good
to
go
and
we're
all
good
to
go
and
we'll
move
on
from
here
and
just
to
clarify.
We
do
have
an
executive
session
in
the
middle
or
not
no
toward
the
beginning
of
this
particular
meeting.
So
we
will
actually
adjourn
into
executive
session.
We
will
go
downstairs.
This
will
take
us
approximately
ten
minutes,
five
more
minutes,
maybe
in
transition,
and
we
will
be
back
okay
so
that
again,
that's
toward
the
beginning
of
this
segment
of
our
meeting
or
special
meeting.
B
D
Good
evening
I'm
Renee
Nasser
staff
representative
from
ask
me
local
699
public
works
on
tonight's
agenda.
You
have
the
opportunity
to
make
a
decision
that
could
end
make
almost
annual
discussions
on
solid
waste.
You
have
three
possible
options,
but
only
one
real
solution.
One
option
is
to
explore
outsourcing.
We
are
against
this
option.
For
many
reasons.
Many
citizens,
like
the
guys
that
do
the
work
in
our
level
services
they
receive
outsourcing,
were
disrupt
and
possibly
end
both
well.
The
city
could
lose
control
over
services.
There
would
be
less
accountability.
D
A
reduction
of
services
and
increased
cost
of
the
private
companies
goal
is
to
make
a
profit.
It
cannot
be
forgotten.
The
many
extras
that
solid
waste
workers
provide
to
the
city,
their
significant
part
of
snow
and
ice
removal
operations.
They
clean
up
illegal
dumpsites,
operate
the
drop-off
facility
and
do
alle
maintenance.
They
do
street
cleaning
clean
up
debris
after
car
accidents
and
pick
up
items
from
the
street
that
have
fallen
out
of
moving
vehicles.
They
also
retrieve
garbage
garbage
and
recycle
bins
near
citizens,
homes
from
no
additional
cost
from
qualified
for
medical
assistance
program.
D
D
An
outsourcing
will
result
in
months
of
uncertainty
for
our
members
and
citizens
with
continued
regular
discussions
about
solid
waste
exploration
result
in
no
immediate
action
to
address
the
ongoing
issue
of
the
city
needing
to
subsidize
the
solid
waste
fund,
further
learned
from
Pekin
who
explored
outsourcing
in
November
2016
and
decided
not
to
they
found
or
outsourcing
the
solid
waste
services
would
cost
five
hundred
and
twenty-one
thousand
dollars
more
per
year.
For
these
reasons,
exploring
outsource,
she
must
be
ruled
out
tonight.
Another
option
is
to
reduce
the
level
of
services.
D
D
Our
concern
is
that
these
options
have
limitations
and
result
in
continued
discussions
about
solid
waste.
The
only
option,
a
solution
that
would
allow
citizens
to
keep
the
services
they
have
with
the
same
workers
they
appreciate,
are
to
increase
the
fees
to
actually
cover
the
cost
of
the
services
provided.
Several
years
ago,
solid
waste
was
designated
an
enterprise
fund
button
name.
Only
these
have
never
been
enough
to
cover
the
services
provided
and
citizens
enjoy,
which
proposed
fee
increases
is
projected.
The
solid
waste
fund
would
be
self
funded
by
also
meeting
reserve
requirements.
D
Well,
no
one
enjoys
increased
fees.
In
this
case
you
will
know
exactly
the
quality
and
level
services
you'll
be
receiving
with
the
workers.
You
know
the
solution
would
put
the
solid
waste
discussions
to
rest.
Please
don't
know
to
outsourcing
and
yes
to
increasing
the
fees
for
a
long
term
solution.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
E
B
Us
a
motion
to
move
and
as
a
percent
excuse
me
by
older
woman
Schmidt.
Is
there
a
second
second
by
all
of
in
black
any
further
discussion?
Okay,
if
you'll
go
ahead
and
vote
electronically-
oh
it's
not
on
there!
It
is
okay
and
let
the
record
show
that
all
the
sage
has
joined
us
and
all
of
them
in
Bray.
How
do
you
vote
on
this
I?
Don't.
B
Let
the
record
show
them
that
we
have
a
an
eight
to
zero
vote
on
the
minutes
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
clear
that,
and
at
this
point
we
have
can
I
entertain
a
motion
under
number
5a
to
go
into
closed
session
for
approximately
ten
minutes
to
discuss
a
personnel
matter
as
identified
under
five
a
section
to
see
that
is
listed
on
our
agenda
moved
by
alderman
black.
Is
there
a
second
second
by
all
the
woman
Schmidt
any
further
discussion
on
this,
and
at
this
point
you
can
go
ahead
and
overall
call
on
that?
B
B
C
B
B
B
B
B
C
B
Thank
you.
So
much
all
right
motion
carries
we're
back
in
the
regular
session
and
we
are
on
item
number,
eight
on
the
agenda
and
that's
discussion
and
Direction
related
to
update
on
the
fiscal
year
2019
big
picture
budget
presented
on
January
22nd.
So
this
is
an
update
on
that,
and
so
there
are
some
items
involving
cost
recovery.
Fee
increases
of
through
fee
increases,
as
opposed
to
visits,
registration
program,
beginning
charge
of
embarking
for
downtown
and
some
other
issues
that
I'm
going
to
let
our
distinguished
interim
city
manager
deal
with
mr.
Rasmussen.
Thank.
F
You
very
much
mayor
and
I'd
like
to
thank
the
council
members
also
for
giving
us
a
lot
of
feedback
on
the
things
that
we
had
talked
about
in
the
previous
several
meetings,
I'd
like
to
review
the
calendar
here
a
little
bit
and
if
you
look
at
the
line
across
the
middle
of
the
line,
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
now
and
what
has
gone
behind
us.
And
if
you
remember,
we
went
to
the
BC
PA.
F
We
looked
at
the
big
picture
and
then
the
last
time
we
came
back
with
a
proposed
balanced
budget
with
you
with
a
number
of
items
on
there.
That
requires
some
hard
decisions
by
the
City
Council,
and
so
today,
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we
call
the
the
proto
budget.
That
would
be
the
prototype
of
a
of
a
budget
with
some
of
the
difficult
issues
that
we're
going
to
have
to
to
talk
about,
and
just
by
way
of
review.
F
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
2.9
million
dollar
deficit
and
if
you
recall,
we
talked
about
each
of
those
at
the
council
retreat
on
November
4th.
You
gave
us
a
number
of
items
to
look
at
how
we
could
close
the
deficit.
Some
of
those
things
we
looked
at
and
there
just
was
no
light
at
the
end
of
that
tunnel,
but
a
number
of
them
there
were-
and
so
we
looked
at
these
and
these
numbers,
which
you
have
seen
before,
shows
how
we
can
close
the
2.9
million
dollar
deficit
in
the
operating
budget.
F
One
thing
that
I
did
want
to
point
out
is
item
number
9
on
this
list,
which
is
operating
reductions.
One
thing
that
we
had
gotten
from
the
council
is
that
before
we
talk
about
doing
some
other
fee
increases,
we
want
to
make
sure
we've
done
that
and
done
some
significant
cutting,
and
so
this
item
I
want
to
show
you
what
you
may
have
not
seen
before,
and
that
is.
F
We
can
delay
a
codification
we
can
in
finance.
We
can
limit
the
amount
of
consulting
services.
There
are
a
number
of
those
things
we
can
do
in
each
department
and
the
budget
officer
and
I
continue
to
go
through
and
look
at
the
departments.
So
a
number
of
this
can
get
cut
out
by
simply
slimming
down
what
we're
doing
in
the
department's.
So
before
we
go
back
to
some
other
issues
here,
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
looked
at
that
now.
F
What
I
wanted
to
do
here
was
to
move
on
on
three
items:
we're
going
to
talk
to
you
about
here
later
and
I'm,
just
giving
you
a
preview
of
coming
attractions
because
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
those
in
a
minute.
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
was
a
service
fee
increases,
and
we
will
come
back
to
you
on
that
and
ask
to
see.
F
If
some
would
like
to
to
make
a
motion
for
us
to
review
that
and
in
your
packet
you
will
see
a
sample
motion
we'll
also
come
back
and
talk
to
you
about
business
registration
and
there's
some
issues
back
and
forth
on
that.
But
we'd,
maybe
like
you
to
come
back
and
make
a
motion
for
us
to
examine
that.
And
the
third
thing,
then,
is
a
motion
for
some
parking
fee
increases.
Those
three
numbers
amount
to
a
good
portion
of
the
deficit
and
we'll
have
some
more
to
talk
to
you
about
on
that.
F
But
what
I
wanted
to
do
now
is
go
back
to
the
main
issue
for
tonight,
which
is
the
solid
waste
issue
and
I'm
going
to
ask
Jim
carts
to
come
and
present
some
options
for
that,
and
then,
after
we've
done
that
that
will
kind
of
set
a
model
for
us
here,
because
at
the
last
meeting
you
asked
for
us
to
come
back
for
you
to
make
a
resolution
for
us
to
review
this.
And,
of
course
you
can
look
at
that
discuss.
F
So,
having
said
that,
I'm
going
to
ask
carts
to
come
up
and
we
have
full
time
to
talk
about
the
solid
waste
issue
and
then
I'll
come
back
to
these
three
items
and
see
how
you
might
want
to
proceed
in
those
so
Jim.
If
you're
ready,
I'll,
let
you
go
ahead
and
come
through
the
options
here.
Thank.
G
You
thank
you,
city
manager,
Rasmussen,
mayor
and
city
council
I'm,
going
to
be
pulling
up
the
presentation
while
I
do.
This
is
an
ongoing
conversation
of
what
we
discussed
last
week.
Last
month,
January
22nd,
we
brought
to
you
a
presentation
on
different
possibilities
of
service
level
reductions,
and
so
tonight
we
were
asked
to
bring
back
a
resolution
on
the
options
and
investigation
of
outsourcing
of
our
solid
waste
services
and
so
first
to
begin
that
conversation.
Let's
talk
about
what
we
do
internally.
G
So
when
we
talk
about
that,
we
actually
already
have
some
of
our
services
contracted
out
with
the
city
of
Bloomington
you're,
going
to
see
throughout
this
presentation
at
the
very
bottom.
You
can
see
this.
This
chart
this
little
bar
that
we're
trying
to
show
this
this
difference
between
public,
fully
public
and
fully
private,
and
so
this
kind
of
allows
us
to
have
some
just
really
frame
the
conversation
around.
How
much
are
we
public?
G
How
much
are
we
private
with
our
solid
waste
service,
so
to
start
off
with
right
now
we
are
very
close
to
being
fully
public.
There
are
some
communities,
though,
that
have
their
own
landfill.
There's.
Some
communities
that
process
their
own
recycling
material-
they
have
their
own
composting
facility,
they
do
their
own
transfer
of
all
of
that,
we
already
contract.
Quite
a
bit
of
that
out.
You
can
see
on
the
chart
what
we
contract
throughout
and
what
we
don't,
but
the
key
facet
I've
had.
Somebody
even
ask
is:
what
do
I
do?
G
Our
solid
waste
workers
only
do
solid
waste
and
the
answer
is
no.
They
they
do
see.
I
know
a
Renae
Nessler
had
made
some
of
those
points,
but
just
to
reiterate
that
that
the
solid
waste
work
that
is
done,
they
do
bulk
brush.
They
do
the
garbage
recycling
but
they're.
Also
the
leaf
removal
service
has
done
snow
removal,
services
done,
and
then
you
know
things
like
median
cleanup,
gravel
alleys
and
then
also
medical
assistance.
So
when
we
talk
about
privatization,
we
do
have
to
look
at.
How
would
that
work
get
done
now?
G
Other
communities
will
talk
about.
They
do
address
that,
though
they'll
deal
with
it
in
different
ways.
I'll
use
the
examples
of
Peoria.
Whenever
you
talk
about
snow
removal,
they
currently
don't
provide
their
own
garbage
and
recycling
bulk
service.
All
of
that
how
they
deal
with
it.
Well,
it
can
be
done.
They
actually
have
the
signatory
agreement
with
another
Union.
G
They
can
come
in
and
provide
some
supplemental
workforce
to
help
out,
but
other
places
like
McClain
County,
locally
they'll
use,
snowbirds
I've
used
that
term
before,
where
they
have
farmers
with
CDLs
or
other
employees
that
can
come
in
and
be
able
to
provide
that
service.
So,
but
the
other
impact
are
things
like
leaf
collection,
and
it
would
have
to
be
done
by
our
existing
workers
of
streets
and
sewers,
and
so
that
would
pull
away
from
some
of
that
other
work.
G
We
do
even
if
we
use
people
like
our
parks,
recreation
and
cultural
arts
that
would
have
an
impact
on
on
even
the
plowing
of
constitution
trail
how
we
plow
some
of
our
own
parking
lots.
So
all
of
this
can
be
done.
This
is
just
it's
important
to
know
the
full
picture
when
we
look
at
some
of
these
decisions.
G
Is
that
there's
not
one
best
management
practice
out
there?
You
know
some
communities
like
peek
and
they
did
go
out
and
it
wasn't
too
long
ago
when
they
looked
at
trying
do
we
need
to
outsource
this
service
and,
and
they
did
bid
for
that.
Peoria
currently
is
going
through
the
process
right
now,
their
own
employees
bid
on
some
of
that
work,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
communities
that
are
that
are
looking
at
that
as
they
deal
with
some
of
this,
this
shortfall
Pekin
did
choose
to
raise
their
fees.
G
Peoria
in
the
same
way,
had
tried
to
get
some
additional
bids
from
other
companies,
and
so
a
lot
of
them
are
going
through
this
process.
So,
let's
look
at
this.
This
chart
on
the
screen
gives
us
some
some
words
to
frame
again
frame
this
conversation
because
we
talked
about
we
throw
out
words
like
privatizing,
outsourcing,
contracting
franchising
and
they
mean
different
things,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
the
same
language
that
we're
using.
G
So
when
we
talk
about
contracting
out,
let's
focus
on
that
for
a
second,
that's
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen
and
you'll
notice.
That's
not
fully
private
and
it's
not
fully
public.
Some
communities
when
we
talk
about
will
show
you
a
chart
later,
which
breaks
down.
How
does
that
work?
This
city
still
does
maintain
quite
a
bit
of
control
under
a
contracting
situation,
so
they
do.
G
That's
why
you'll
see
it's
more
right
down
the
center,
so
communities
such
as
Peoria
do
that
they'll
contract
that
out
now
we
move
to
franchising
and
and
that's
more
of
a
community's.
You
know
such
as
Decatur,
where
they've
got
different
zones
in
the
community.
They
franchise.
Well,
that's
similar
to
what
more
of
an
amarant
or
Corn
Belt,
how
we
do
our
electric
service
providers.
G
So
there
is
less
control
by
the
city
we'll
know
at
times
as
a
community
will
get
concerns
about
a
streetlight
being
out
and
we'll
talk
about
some
of
the
limitations
that
we
have
on
the
control
of
when
they're
done
and
how
those
are
done.
So
franchising
does
allow
some
constraints,
but
not
to
the
level
of
contract.
You
know.
So
that's
where
you
can
have
multiple
different
companies
that
you
franchise
within
the
same
area
and
so
again
places
like
Decatur
do
that
full
divestiture
is
fully
private.
G
That
is
where
the
city
no
longer
provides
solid
waste
service
at
all,
we
sell
all
of
the
equipment
we
sell
all
the
carts.
We
no
longer
provide
this
service
and
there
is
no
control
that
we
have
over
concerns,
complaints
or
how
that
is
done.
The
only
controls
we
have
is
through
our
city
code
and
enforcement
and
regulation
of
that.
What
we
have
understood
the
council
to
be
talking
about
just
so
that
we
can
get
on
the
same
page,
is
contracting
out
our
understanding
from
a
staff
of
what
the
council
has
been
asked
for.
G
We
talked
about
that
unanimous
request
to
come
back
and
look
at
that
outsourcing.
That's
really
more
of
that
contracting
out.
So
when
we
talk
about
that
I,
that's
what
staff
is
of
the
understanding.
So
that's
a
clarification.
That's
needed
the
process
that
we
would
have
to
go
through,
for
that
is.
It
would
take
us
about
30
days
to
put
together.
G
We
talk
with
procurement
30
days
to
put
together
the
contract
documents
to
go
out
through
the
RFP
process
and
we
would
look
at
a
mirror
and
we've
already
legal
started
to
get
different
communities
Galesburg
and
others
that
that
we
are
getting
their
contract.
So
we
can
review
those
and
we
can
put
that
together
within
a
30
day
period.
It
would
take
us,
then
about
60
days
to
go
out
and
actually
get
proposals
from
other
vendors.
You
know
people
that
you
know
such
as
the
Allied
Waste
Republic.
G
You
know
waste
management,
peoria
disposal,
company
area,
so
there
are
different
companies
that
would
then
put
in
the
bid.
You
know
even
like
a
Tom
Kirk
locally
others
they
would
put
in
that
bid
within
that
60-day
requirement.
I
know
tonight,
it'd
be
great.
If
I
could
come
to
you
and
provide
you
costs
on
what
it
would
be,
but
we
don't
know
that
you
know
we.
We
don't
know
what
we
don't
know
and
until
we
would
go
through
that
process,
we
can't
be
able
to
to
really
even
project
what
those
costs
would
be.
G
G
For
everybody,
you
can
have
a
uniform
cart
fee,
but
if
we
kept
that
same
structure
that
we've
had
that
low
cost
for
for
folks
as
an
option
and
then
continue
to
have
other
tiers,
we
can
look
at
this
next
year,
increasing
$4
for
the
largest
cart
$4,
the
middle
card,
65
gallon
$2
for
the
smallest
cart,
and
that
would
take
care
of
this
next
year's
budget
gap
that
that
in
and
of
itself
would
take
care
of
the
budget
gap
for
the
next
year.
That
would
address
that
1.1
million
dollars
the
following
year.
G
You
would,
we
would
implement
one
more
series
of
increases
before
we
had
a
set
flat
fee,
across-the-board
annual.
The
reason
for
that
is
so
that
we
can
try
to
to
bring
into
line.
If
we
kept
the
current
service
level,
we
would
then
be
able
to
have
the
reserve.
That's
needed
that
we
as
a
council
had
talked
about
and
passed
a
resolution
for
so
this.
This
kind
of
a
structure
would
really
allow
us
for
the
foreseeable
future
to
address
that
funding
gap,
because
the
3%
increase
would
probably
address
that.
G
The
other
way
we
could
look
at
that
is
some
sort
of
incremental
service
change.
We
talked
about
that
before
we've,
we've
discussed
everything
from
bulk
changes.
We've
talked
about
even
split
shifts,
there's
a
myriad
of
menu
on
the
table
for
you
to
consider,
but
but
quite
honestly,
the
the
big,
the
biggies
are,
the
bulk.
You
know,
there's
the
bulk
in
Russia
the
majority
of
our
cost.
G
You
know
with
the
solid
waste
service,
it's
a
lot
of
cost
with
that,
but
those
kind
of
service
level
changes
also
allow
us
to
be
able
to
address
even
things
like
landlord
abuse
of
where
there
are
times
where,
how
much
that
is
put
out
there.
The
fact
that
that's
more
of
a
business,
we
can
include
some
of
that
conversation
in
our
bulk
waste
dialogue
as
well.
G
The
last
thing
I
like
to
hit
is
this:
20
year
solid
waste
plan
that
the
kalmyk
lankey,
the
town
of
normal,
the
city
of
Bloomington,
has
been
participating
in
now
for
a
year
through
various
groups.
This
is
that
20
year
plan
with
the
closure
of
the
landfill.
How
does
that
plan?
Even
though
it's
a
draft,
even
though
we'll
be
bringing
it
back
to
you
in
the
second
meeting
in
February,
so
so
we'll
be
bringing
it
back
to
the
next
council
meeting
the
draft
plan.
G
We've
talked
with
the
ecology,
Action
Center,
and
it
does
not
specify
or
does
not
provide
any
recommendation
on
how
the
city
provides
the
service
that
we
talked
about,
so
it
can
be
done
from
an
internal
service
providing
or
from
an
outside
vendor,
and
so
with
that,
we
would
just
take
any
questions
that
you
have
but
I'd
like
to
point
out
this
chart
up
on
the
screen.
The
the
reason
for
this
chart
it's
hard
to
read
my
apologies,
it's
in
your
packet,
but
but
the
intent
is
to
really
show
the
wide
variety.
G
If
you
look
in
that
third
column,
the
contract
structures-
you
know
there
are
people
that
have
internally
provide
the
service
Bloomington
Normal
Pekin.
There
are
others
that
have
open
hauling,
champaign-urbana,
there's
others
with
franchise
Decatur,
there's
still
others
that
again
have
that
contracting
like
East,
Moline
and
Morton
and
Peoria.
So
the
point
is:
is
that
every
community
looks
different
with
how
they
provide
their
solid
waste.
Each
community
has
to
be
able
to
figure
out
what
works
best
for
their
area,
how
they
bridge
the
gap
of
funding
and-
and
so
that's
part
of
the
conversation.
E
You
appreciate
having
all
this
information
pulled
together.
I
will
say,
first
of
all,
that
I've
had
a
lot
of
feedback
from
people
and
I
have
to
say
generally.
People
are
very
happy
with
the
service
they're
getting
from
the
city
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
anxiety
about
turning
that
over
to
another
provider
and
not
being
sure
the
service
level,
not
being
sure
of
any
kind
of
rate
increases.
So
you
know
I
think
people
do
appreciate
the
work.
Crews
do
I.
Do
think
that
we
need
to
do
our
due
diligence
and
understanding
what
costs
are.
So.
E
G
I
am
saying:
I
can't
definitively
tell
the
council
what
that
cost
would
be.
I
would
say
that
if
you
did
go
through
that
RFP
process
that
doesn't
automatically
outsource
that
work,
you
know
in
the
end,
you
might,
as
a
council
say
this.
Is
you
know
this?
This
is
work
is
done
very
well
in
house,
and
we
have
that
we
have
that
information
so
that
doesn't
guarantee
an
outsourcing,
and
the
other
thing
I
will
say.
Is
we
get
a
lot
of
compliments
on
our
solid
waste?
You
just
like
you
had
said.
G
E
Item
that
we
talked
about,
maybe
the
last
time
was
looking
at
bulk
waste
with
landlords
and
right
now
that's
sort
of
a
free
ride.
I
guess
I
mean
you
know
they're
paying
for
it.
If
they
have
city
service,
then
they
can
do
the
move
outs
like
anybody
else,
and
if
it's
over
certain
buckets,
you
know
the
whole
thing,
but
I
think
that
I'm
hearing
that
there's
some
interest
in
trying
to
cost
out
something
that
is
a
business
model
for
landlords,
because
we
know
through
our
rental
inspection
program
who
they
are
you
know.
E
G
Of
the
ways
we
look
at
a
lot
of
that
depends
on
the
direction
that
council
goes
with
bulk
because
it
would
address
itself
if
you
did
a
spring
and
fall
collection
and
a
full
cost
recovery
with
anything
outside.
So
that
is
one
way
that
it's
addressed.
You
can,
as
a
council
change
the
model
to
which
we
build
bulk
ways,
for
example,
so
anybody
that
uses
it
everything
that's
put
at
the
curb
many
communities.
You
know
you
have
to
pay
for
that.
You
know.
G
If
you
look
up
here,
you
know
any
some
of
them
regulate
for
every
large
item.
For
anything,
that's
put
out
there,
there's
a
cost
for
everything
you
put
at
the
curb,
so
you
know
we
could
that
could
disincentivize
more
of
those
do
frequent
move
outs
and
we
could
still
change
it
to
where
you
have
it
free
of
the
drop-off
and
so
that
that
can
incentivize
something
you
know
some
of
that
not
just
loading
up
the
curb
so
to
speak
and
making
that
more
that
that
unclean
kind
of
a
feel
and.
E
G
So
what
we'd
be
looking
at
a
lot
of
our
costs?
You
know
moving
forward
on
an
annual
basis,
a
lot
of
our
material
costs.
You
know
from
a
landfill
perspective
from
even
a
construction
and
demolition
perspective.
Those
costs,
it's
not
like
asphalt,
asphalt,
can
go
up.
You
know
6%
or
sometimes
more.
You
know
from
it
from
a
material
standpoint
in
the
solid
waste
industry.
G
3%
actually
is
a
fairly
consistent
and
has
been
marker
that
that
our
costs
go
up
on
an
annual
basis,
so
that
did
seem
like
a
reasonable
increase
and
what
that
would
do
then,
from
an
ongoing
perspective.
Is
it
wouldn't
make
it
so
that
after
five
years,
we
have
to
look
at
some
sort
of
a
drastic
increase?
It
can
be
that
small
increase
that
we
see
year
after
year,
once
we
get
our
costs
in
line,
so
that
would
be
more
of
that
staff
recommendation.
Yes,.
E
My
comment
on
that
would
be
that
I
don't
see
that
that
incentivizes
us
and
our
crews
to
continue
to
look
for
efficiencies,
I'm
thinking
about
my
own
work,
I,
don't
you
know
I
have
to
suck
up
six.
Seventy
eight
percent
in
the
book
and
journal
cost
every
year
nobody's
giving
that
to
me.
I
have
to
figure
it
out
every
year
and
I
mean
I'm
assuming
on
many
businesses.
They're
like
that.
So
I
guess
I'm
looking
for
incentives
for
those
efficiencies
that
help
keep
our
prices
affordable
for
our
citizens.
What.
G
I
will
say
is
if
we
looked
at
a
trend,
I
don't
have
this
chart
for
you,
but
we
actually
have
been
decreasing
some
of
our
handle
annual
expenditures
in
the
solid
waste
division.
We've
been
really
making
effort
to
try
to
reduce
our
costs,
and
so
they'll
give
a
lot
of
credit
that
we
have
been
really
trying
to
cut
back
and
save
on
some
of
those
costs.
Other.
H
So
so
thank
you
for
that.
I'm
not
going
to
be
voting
for
any
type
of
outsourcing
or
privatization
at
all
and
I
think
it
would
and
I'll
be
voting
against
any
recommendation
to
come
forward,
and
if
the
council
were
to
proceed
in
that
direction,
I
will
still
be
voting.
No
on
that
I
think
there's
an
inherent
value
for
our
historic
neighborhoods
to
have
the
city
be
accountable
for
the
trash
that
gets
out
there.
H
The
bulk
waste
pickup
and
mean
bob
has
already
met
with
a
couple
my
emails
this
week
and
I
know
you
see
how
you
see
my
emails
of
both
ways.
That's
got
to
get
picked
up
during
clean
outs
and
etc.
I
think
there's
there's
a
definite
value
in
a
public
good
that
comes
from
our
city
being
accountable
for
taking
care
of
that
issue.
Any
type
of
proposal.
If
we
do
go
down
that
path,
I
would
need
to
see
how
these
private
companies
deal
with
those
sorts
of
problems.
H
If
you
go
back
to
the
fee
slide,
two
that
we
were
looking
at
a
min
ago
with
the
cart
amounts
yeah.
Thank
you
so
I
know
I've
heard
a
couple
numbers
float
around
over
the
years
between
25
and
35.
Dollars
is
what
the
actual
cost
is.
If
you
do,
the
math
on
everything
and
I
know
that
we
came
up
with
this
piece
tiered
schedule
over
the
years
and
that's
what
got
the
votes
to
pass
moving
forward.
I
really
think
that
the
35
gallon
cart,
that's
the
smallest
one.
H
There
should
be
an
incentive
for
producing
less
trash
and
I
think
that
that
should
be
offset
by
those
who
produce
more
trash
and
I
can't
hear
my
Bokke
thinking.
You
know,
like
oh
I
got
a
big
family
a
lot
of
trash.
It's
not
my
fault,
you
know
the
single
guy
I
don't
produce
as
much
trash,
but
at
some
point
in
time
there
needs
to
be
a
tie
to
less
trash,
less
Mike
I've
liked
with
your
water
bill.
You
don't
like
your
water
bill
being
so
high.
H
You
use
less
water
and
so
I
would
argue
and
advocate
for
if
we
do
any
fee
kind
of
structure
that
the
35
gallon
cart
remains
the
same
for
those
three
years
and
then
those
costs
are
offset
in
larger
increases
in
the
65
and
95
somebody's
dissatisfied.
With
that
they
can
move,
they
can
avail
themselves
of
the
smaller
cart
option
and
go
from
there.
I
know
that
we
even
offer
no
charge
to
decrease
the
cart
size,
and
we
also
we
charge
you
to
increase
the
cart
size.
H
H
You
know
how
do
we
get
$100
a
day
$500
a
day,
something
that
gets
somebody's
attention
or
we
just
take
landlords
off
of
the
the
our
solid
waste
program
entirely
I
hear
call
after
call,
especially
during
the
the
fall
timeframe
of
move
outs
that
are
just
literally
everybody's
possessions
out
on
the
street
and
no
ramifications
whatsoever.
I
see
you
know
TVs
out
there.
These
are
the
things
that
we
should
be
going
after
and
I
think
that's
easy
cost
recovery
and
I'm
sure
we
can
come
up
with
an
ordinance
to
speak
to
those
concerns.
H
But
I
know
that
where
I
grew
up
we
didn't
have
this
type
of
Cadillac
service
people
like
the
Cadillac
service
and
that's
fine
but
I-
think
people
don't
avail
themselves
of
the
the
bulky
waste
pickup
as
much
as
they
think
that
they
do,
and
so
in
my
world
my
best
case
scenario,
you
would
have
a
fee
charged
an
hour,
20
30
bucks.
We
can
figure
out
bucketload
or
whatever
from
there
just
discourage
people
from
throwing.
H
H
So
that
just
makes
sense
to
me
and
you're
always
gonna
have
that
you
know
some
people
are
jerks
and
just
live
their
life
that
way
so,
but
at
a
high
level
there
is
a
benefit
to
us
as
a
city
taking
ownership
of
how
our
neighborhoods
look,
especially
in
our
historic
core,
to
be
able
to
address
the
trash
issues
as
they
happen,
we
can
come
up
with
a
fair
fee
structure.
It's
gonna
I
think
we
need
to
increase
the
cost.
I
think
the
feedback
I've
gotten
from
folks
is
they're.
I
I
You
know
the
different
communities,
because
the
service
level
is
different.
The
neighborhoods
are
different.
The
way
they
do
pickup
is
different.
So
I,
you
know
with
that
said
I.
You
know.
One
of
the
thing
that
was
consistent
in
what
I've
heard
from
residents
was
the
fact
that
they
really
liked
the
service.
So
I
would
echo
what's
been
said
is
that
our
service
here
is
really
top-notch,
and
so
with
that
I'm
a
little
bit
hesitant.
You
know
to
change
that
balance.
I
There
are
a
number
of
things
that
people
like
about
the
city
about
Bloomington
when
I
first
came
here.
One
of
the
first
thing
that
I
noticed
is
that
it
was
very
Clinton.
Very
neat
and
I
came
from
another
city
on
the
East
Coast
and
I
would
not
name
that
city,
but
it
just
did
not
have
the
same.
Feel.
Okay,
so
I
think
you
know,
we
have
to
be
very
careful
to
tinker
with
the
balance
that
we
have
another
thing
that
I
think
people
like
in
the
community
is
the
convenience.
I
That's
one
of
the
things
that
makes
living
in
Bloomington
a
really
a
great
thing.
You
know
very
short
distances
to
travel,
a
lot
of
convenience.
You
know
you
put
your
stuff
out
and
it's
picked
up.
You
know
the
next
day
and
if
it's
not,
you
know,
if
we
so
happen
to
miss
it,
you
know
the
next
day
somebody
comes
back
and
gets
it.
You
know
once
we
make
a
call
another
one
of
the
conveniences
I.
I
I
That
said,
I
think
I
would
echo
what
Karen
has
said
in
terms
of
efficiencies.
You
know,
so
we
all
always
have
to
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
you
say
that
the
staff
is
you
know,
making
strides.
It
should
be
a
little
bit
more
efficient.
You
know
one
of
the
things
you
know,
of
course,
with
bulk
being
one
of
the
you
know,
the
the
big
items
that
we
we
have
to
deal
with,
that
you
know
I
would
look
for
us
to
be
a
little
bit
more
efficient
in
that
area.
I
I
You
know
it
wasn't
until
you
know,
after
about
a
couple
years
that
I
you
know
in
talking
with
the
staff
I
realized
that
you
know
for
some
people,
people
didn't
realize
that
bulk
is
simply
anything
that
you
just
can't
fit
in
your
trash
can,
and
you
know,
if
you
break
things
down,
those
things
can
fit
in
your
trash
can
and,
and
I
do
believe.
You
know
you're.
Just
driving
around
I
can
see
people
just
putting
really
small
items.
I
You
know
on
the
side
of
the
road
or
you
know
in
the
parkway,
for
for
us
to
pick
up.
You
know
when
the
staff
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
do
that
they
could
go
to
the
trash.
Can
so
I
would
look
for
more
education
in
that
area.
I,
like
the
idea
of
you,
know,
building
a
reserve.
You
know
I
think
that
is
something
that
would
allow
us
to
address
capital
needs
in
the
future.
So
we
have
to
think
about
that
so
that
we're
not
always
in
emergency
mode.
I
You
know
of
trying
to
figure
out
what
do
we
do
next
year?
You
know
to
replace
some
of
our
equipment
and
things
like
that,
but
that
said,
I
also
worry
about
the
fact
that
you
know
if
we
have
something
that
said
at
3%
and
it
comes
back
every
year.
The
same
thing
you
know,
I
would
like
to
see
a
mechanism
for
us
to
continue
to
look
for
improvements
as
opposed
to
you
know,
kind
of
being
complacent,
and
just
you
know,
collecting
the
money
and
just
keeping
doing
things
as
we
usually
do.
B
And
and
that
that
is
something
that
was
put
up
on
the
board.
Certainly
one
of
the
options
in
terms
of
fee
increases
could
just
be
the
fee
increases
over
the
next
two
years.
That
then
the
council
continues
to
revisit
and,
of
course,
the
council
could
always
Nix
that
just
FYI
I'm
not
sure
what
order
who
had
lights
on,
but
all
them
and
sage,
and
then
Burris.
You
know
you
can
go
first.
B
K
K
Think
what's
interesting
here
is
that
we're
not
doing
something
new
or
novel,
so
the
amount
of
information
out
there
that's
publicly
available
to
review
is
actually
quite
extensive
and
I've
appreciated
that
in
this
issue,
because
we
don't
have
that
luxury
of
information,
so
I
think
that
there
may
be
an
inclination
and
because
I've
heard
this
from
some
residents
and
I'm
sympathetic
to
it,
because
I
think
we
need
to
do
our
due
diligence
and
make
the
best
decision
possible.
I.
Think
there's
some
inclination
to
say.
Well,
we
don't
know
what
we
don't
know.
K
If
we
don't
bit
it
out,
we
won't
know
exactly
what
the
answers
are
that
we
will
get
if
we
would
have
made
it
out
and
I'm
sympathetic
to
that.
However,
I'm
not
supportive
of
that
particular
line
of
thinking,
because
I
do
think
we
have
enough
information
to
tell
us
the
key
questions
here,
which
is:
are
we
guaranteed
if
we
privatize
the
service
to
maintain
the
same
level
of
service
that
we
enjoy,
which
everyone
I
think
has
agreed
that
the
city
offers
to
it?
K
You
know
an
exceptionally
high
degree
for
the
most
effective
cost
for
the
residents
and
based
on
the
information.
I've
reviewed,
I
think
there's
a
very
real
risk
over
time.
Our
residents,
if
we
were
to
fully
privatized,
would
get
less
for
what
they
pay.
They
would
get
less
and
pay
more
and
again,
that's
based
on
the
information
I've
seen
so
I
would
prefer
us
do
not
see
us
go
down
a
road
where
we're
looking
for
more
information
where
we
can
at
this
point
in
time
say
no,
it's
not
necessary.
K
We
have
everything
we
need
in
front
of
us
to
make
a
well
informed
decision,
so
I'm
with
Scott
I'm,
highly
skeptical
of
privatization,
and
think
that
our
time
is
better
spent
with
staff
working
for
a
way
to
meet
the
goals
of
what
stat.
What
counsel
previously
voted
for,
which
is
to
turn
this
into
an
Enterprise
Fund,
and
you
know
I
I'm
I'm,
not
sure
you
know
it's
interesting
to
look
back.
You
know
it
was
that
the
right
decision,
the
wrong
one,
because
some
kind
of
some
some
municipalities
do
subsidized
to
a
high
degree.
K
I,
don't
know,
but
I
think
when
we're
facing
a
budget
deficit,
we
have
to
just
move
forward
the
best
we
can,
and
this
is
one
way
we
can
do
that
so
I
think
I
would
support
and
I
think
this
is
what
I'm
kind
of
heard
from
Scott
it's
kind
of
a
hybrid
approach
on
number.
The
proposed
motion
is
number
two
and
three
that
some
increase
in
cost
will
be
necessary,
but
also
that
there
are
some
efficiencies
and
services
that
can
still
be
gained
and
I'd
be
curious
to
see
where
that
goes.
K
To
say
to
residents,
you're
gonna
have
to
pay
something
for
this
premium
level
service
that
you're
getting
because
we've
heard
these
concerns
and
I'm
guessing,
don't
know
if
you
have
the
data
but
I'm,
guessing
that
some
smaller
percentage
of
residences
in
the
city
used
substantially
or
disproportionately
higher
amount
of
the
books,
waste
services,
and
so
the
rest
of
us
are
subsidizing
that
premium
that
they
enjoy
I.
Don't
think
I've
ever
used
both
wastes
honestly
but
I
like
that.
We
could
and
I
think
that
that's
that's
consistent
with
what
I
hear
from
a
lot
of
residents.
B
That's
it
yeah,
that's
here,
all
of
on
sage,
Massey
and
Peter.
J
Age,
thank
you
great
presentation,
Jim
in
just
a
reaction
to
some
comments
that
that
have
previously
been
made.
For
me.
We
finally
have
some
information
now
that
I
think
helps
us
make
more
meaningful
decisions.
We've
always
had
information.
What
I
start
to
see
in
the
handout
tonight
is
is
converting
that
to
knowledge
and
when
I
look
at
some
of
the
information
about
some
of
the
other
municipalities.
J
What
what
I
see
is,
it
seems
entirely
premature
to
say
you
know
we
have.
We
have
risk
here
we're
going
to
have
a
reduction
in
service,
we'll
have
no
accountability
over
there
over
the
the
solid
waste
program
to
suggest
otherwise.
Just
doesn't
doesn't
seem
consistent
and
in
my
mind
and
so
and
again
but
I
think.
J
As
others
have
said,
we
do
have
a
tremendous,
solid
waste
program,
but
but
we
also
have
a
situation
where,
where
we're
gonna
have
to
take
a
hard
look
at
the
services
that
we
deliver
and
and
that's
why
I
would
be
in
favor
of
an
RFP
so
that
we
can
make
a
which
really
have
the
knowledge
in
order
to
make
an
informed
decision
again
to
draw
conclusions
before
we
have
an
RFP
seems
to
me
to
be
a
willingness
to
try
to
create
kind
of
a
self-fulfilling
prophecy.
We
have
the
RFP.
J
We
can
begin
to
make
apples-to-apples
comparisons.
Then
we
have
again
the
knowledge
that
I
think
is
needed.
The
other
thing
that
I'm
reminded
of
is
that
I
think
it.
It
can
be
often
easy
for
us
to
to
kind
of
gloss
over
the
reality
that
so
many
people
our
community,
have
where,
when
we
start
to
talk
about
another
four
or
five
dollars
a
month
here
or
four
or
five
dollars
a
month
there.
J
These
are
folks
who,
who,
who
consistently
have
it,
as
as
my
mom
used
to
say
more
months
and
money
and
and
so
to
to
again
kind
of
I,
said
gloss
over
that
and
pretend
like
that,
doesn't
have
some
real-world
effects.
I
know
that
there
are
folks
a
number
of
folks
that
that
I
know
and
work
with
they
haven't
had
a
raise
in
a
number
of
years.
Everything
else
has
continued
to
increase,
they've
not
had
a
raise
and
and
I'm,
not
sure.
J
That's
the
same
for
those
of
us
who
sit
around
this
this
platform
up
here,
so
so
I
guess
I'd
like
for
us
to
have.
If
we
don't
have
the
willingness
to
look
at.
Let
me
step
back
if
we
don't
have
the
courage
to
look
at
the
ways
that
we
deliver
city
services
and
try
to
investigate
those
and
figure
out
if
there
are
meaningful
ways
to
to
reduce
those
cost.
J
The
trajectory
that
we're
on
it
is
is
is
such
that
the
will
have
a
little
hope
of
getting
to
a
point
where
we
can
actually
manage
cost
in
and
again,
I
always
appreciate,
Scott's
comments.
You
know
Scott
I,
know
people
I
know
you.
You
hear
that
the
people
would
be
concerned
about
that
about
changes
with
that.
I
know.
When
I
talk
to
people
and
I
say
there
could
be
the
possibility
that
your
costs
would
go
down.
J
I
promise
you
they
may
be
really
interested
in
hearing
about
it
then
yeah,
you
know
so
again
of
the
three
motions
presented.
I
would
probably
be
in
favor
of
what
I
believe
is
motion
number
one
to
at
least
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
suggesting
Emile.
You
use
the
word
privatized,
it's
the
difference
between
well
I'm,
not
suggesting
privatization.
I
think
we
need
to
remain.
It
retains
some
level
of
control,
which
would
should
suggest
the
outsourcing
or
the
the
franchising
is
I.
Think
maybe
is
determinate.
J
L
Actually
think
David
summed
up
my
thoughts
pretty
much
yeah
I
appreciate
that
I
didn't
have
to
end
see
it
that
way.
No
I
think
it's
still
too
premature
at
this
point
to
rule
out
anything
because
we,
while
we
know
what
other
cities
have
done,
we
don't
know
what
is
going
to
be
available
to
us
and
if
anything,
you
know
it
caught
my
attention.
When
you're
looking
at
Decatur
on
the
chart,
the
Decatur
actually
pays
less
than
we
do
for
what
looks
to
be
a
very
similar
sort
of
service.
L
M
Thank
you
very
much
Jim
for
the
presentation.
There
was
a
lot
of
information.
There.
I
have
several
thoughts
about
this.
The
the
choice
that
we
were
given
about
cart
size
I
would
not
be
in
favor
of
that.
I
think
that
if
we
are
going
to
capture
what
we
need,
I
think
that
everybody
should
be
paying
the
same
thing,
no
matter
what
their
cart
size
is
because
I
know
in
my
neighborhood
I
see
carts
little
carts,
stuffed
to
the
brim
and
overflowing
all
the
time,
and
they
can
afford
a
large
cart.
M
G
G
M
M
B
Before
we
go
just
to
clarify,
a
council
can
override
a
mayor's
veto
with
the
two-thirds
majority.
It's
a
mayor
saying
that
they
will
lead
always
and
I,
don't
see
it
as
any
different
from
saying
how
a
councilmember
would
vote
I'm
just
expressing
an
opinion,
it's
what
I
ran
on
a
no.9
in
13
and
17
it'd
be
really
really
really
bad
and
I'm
happy
to
explain
why
I've
been
studying
this
stuff
for
35
years
depends
on
the
size
of
the
community
and
all
kinds
of
us
things.
So
I'm
happy
to
talk
about.
B
C
C
I
really
think
that
everyone
benefits
when
we
have
good,
solid
waste
and
bulky
waste
removals
and
lab,
and
maybe
some
who
don't
partake
of
bulky
waste
removers
with
any
regularity,
really
the
whole
community
benefits
whether
or
not
you
actually
are
person
that
uses
that
service
and
I.
Think
everyone
recognizes
that
because
it's
just
erased
is
allowed
to
murder
on
our
sidewalks
or
are
in
our
serves
and
in
our
streets.
Everyone
is
affected
whether
or
not
you
were
the
person
that
placed
it
there
or
not.
C
So
with
all
that
said,
I
really
favor
a
combo
of
motion,
two
and
three
I,
like
first
approach.
This
remaining
in
house
and
I'd
like
us
to
study,
upset
around
some
of
Jim's
recommendations
here
about
part,
increase,
cost
and
I
do
like
the
idea
of
an
annual
increase
so
that
we're
not
constantly
revisiting
this
issue
so
that
this
continues
to
be
a
viable
and
ongoing
concern,
as
we've
heard
from
our
arrival
from
my
constituents
and
then
I'd
also
like
to
make
sure
that
we're
always
saying
as
efficient
as
possible,
so
that
that's
my
input.
B
And
just
to
be
clear,
obviously
the
City
Council
at
any
point,
even
if
the
City
Council
said:
hey,
okay,
we're
gonna
reach,
let's
say
the
I
forgot,
the
exact
dollar
or
not
that
you
were
saying,
but
they
were
two
to
four
dollars
a
card
yep.
Even
if
the
City
Council
said
that
and
then
said
well
in
the
future,
we
may
do
three
percent.
That
doesn't
mean
that
it's
it's
going
to
happen.
The
City
Council
every
year
has
to
pass
a
budget,
so
the
City
Council
can
say
all
right.
B
None
of
the
three
percent
this
year
is
not
acceptable
whatever
just
to
just
to
clarify
that
as
an
option
at
this
point,
since
we
are
way
over-
and
at
this
point
our
our
projected
starting
point-
it's
well
after
7:00
o'clock
for
the
next
meeting,
I
I'm,
going
to
go
turn
to
all
the
woman
Burgas
who
I
think
was
about
to
make
a
motion,
and
you
want
to
make
a
comment.
I
just.
K
C
K
Think
the
intent
here
is
to
say
to
staff.
We
would
like
some
hybridization
between
these
two
proposals,
so
some
service
changes
for
greater
efficiency
as
well
as
perhaps
some
revenue
enhancements,
I
can't
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
look
like
necessarily,
but
to
bring
us
their
best
option.
Based
on
the
the
conversation
we've
received.
Does
that
help
clarify
yes.
J
B
B
J
B
And
I
apologize
if
that
was
to
say
just
that
I
I
was
mainly
trying
to
say
such
I'd
heard
a
few
of
these
kind
of
items.
Whatever
those
items
are,
those
are
the
items
that
would
be
consistent
with
items
two
and
three.
Now
at
this
point
we
have
motion
on
the
floor
and
if
you
would
go
ahead
and
vote
on
that
motion,
if
that
one
fails,
I'm
entertaining
of
happy
to
entertain
another
all
the
woman
Bray,
oh.
C
B
B
F
F
What
I
wanted
to
do
now
was
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
to
the
schedule
we've
got
here
and
what
happens
is
if
you
see
this
schedule,
you
will
see
that
on
the
26th,
the
next
council
meeting
from
now
we'll
bring
back
to
you
a
budget
which
will
propose
these
things
that
we
have
from
guidance
from
you.
That
will
give
us
a
balanced
budget
that
you
can
look
at
now.
F
What
that
will
be
is
that
will
be
a
10
or
a
12
page
summary
of
a
balanced
budget,
and
then
you
can
adjust
things
from
that.
Well,
we
also
proposed
is
that
the
committee
of
the
whole
next
Monday
on
the
19th
we
bring
back
to
you
the
issues
concerning
the
capital
improvement
program
which
we
have
not
talked
about,
and
there
are
several
big
dollar
items
and
the
way
to
pay
for
that.
F
We're
proposing
doing
that
at
the
committee
of
the
whole,
the
calendar
keeps
marching
on
and,
as
you
can
see,
what
we
have
there
in
red
on
March
19th
is
the
day
that
we
would
have
the
proposed
budget
books
available.
That
means
after
the
26th
next
council
meeting
I
would
have
the
staff
go
ahead
and
put
those
draft
budget
books
together,
because
they
will
need
time
to
print
those
I've
put
on
the
calendar,
in
parentheses,
a
proposed
work
session
on
March
10th.
F
So
when
we
have
those
books,
if
the
council
would
like
to
talk
some
more
about
those,
we
can,
because
we
have
a
public
hearing
scheduled
for
March
12th
and
of
course
the
next
thing
is
the
March
15th.
Is
we
have
the
legal
deadline
for
those
proposed
books
to
be
put
out,
so
we
still
have
until
the
end
of
April
to
adopt
it,
but
the
time
is
marching
on
in
terms
of
the
staff
being
able
to
prepare
those
full
budget
books
for
you,
which
we
would
like
to
have
ready
for
you
by
Friday,
March
9th.
F
So
that's
why
I
say
that
next
council
meeting
on
February
26th
will
bring
back
to
you
a
proposed
budget
based
on
your
guidance
tonight
between
now
and
then
and
what
we
have
at
the
committee
of
the
whole.
Now
that
brings
up
these
other
three
major
items,
and
it
was
very
good
that
we
got
a
motion
to
move
forward
now.
We
know
what
to
do
and
what
not
to
do
I
said.
F
I
would
come
back
to
you,
though,
with
the
next
ones
here,
because
if
you
recall
up
there,
we
have
three
big
items
still
remaining
to
be
discussed
and
I
wanted
to
go
through
those,
and
they
are
these.
The
is
a
cost
recover.
These
are
service
fee
increases
and
at
the
retreat
on
November
4th.
You
asked
us
to
come
back
and
look
at
that
and
we
can
recover
a
number
of
those
fees.
F
The
reason
I
asked
for
this
as
a
motion
to
move
forward
on
it
is
because
if
the
council
would
say
no,
we
don't
want
anything
to
do
with
that.
Well,
we
won't
spend
our
time
doing
that.
But
if
you
are
interested
in
having
us
look
at
that,
we
will
do
the
same
thing
that
we
did
with
solid
waste,
and
that
is,
you
can
give
us
a
motion
to
move
forward
and
to
get
come
back
to
something
with
you
with
something
that
would
would
address
this
issue.
F
If,
if,
if
you
would
like
us
to
do
that,
we
would
do
that
and
we
would
ask
for
for
some
guidance
from
you
and
of
course,
the
best
way
to
get
the
guidance
is
for
somebody
to
make
a
motion.
You
take
a
vote.
Then
we've
got
it
like.
We
had
with
solid
waste
and
so
I'm
going
to
ask
for
some
guidance
from
you
and
if
you
would
like
to
discuss
this,
make
a
motion
to
that
effect
or
not
make
a
motion.
F
Short,
the
the
vast
majority
of
these
come
in
Community
Development,
for
example,
a
fees
for
for
doing
inspections,
apartment
inspection,
rental
inspections,
fees
for
doing
plan,
reviews
and
those
sorts
of
things.
I'd
remind
you
that
in
the
1996
or
so
we
recovered
about
eighty-five
percent
of
the
cost
of
doing
business
and
Community
Development.
K
F
L
L
Just
in
in
some
of
the
conversations
I've
had,
you
know,
with
our
planning
department
that
some
of
the
fees
there
are
so
outlandish
ly,
out-of-date
that
it's
almost
laughable,
you
know
Bob
and
one
discussion.
We
were
talking
about
the
review
of
I
think
we
were
talking
about
plat
review
and
things
of
that
nature
that
our
fee
for
that
it
was
like
$100
and
it
yet
it
that
in
no
way
shape
or
form
even
comes
close
to
the
number
of
man
hours.
L
F
If
I
could
add
just
one
thing
thing
to
that,
one
of
the
things
that
will
allow
us
to
do
here
is
we
could
then
build
this
into
the
budget
so
that
we
know
that
there
would
be
some
fee
increases.
We
don't
know
what
they
might
be,
but
as
we
get
closer
and
closer,
we
could
build
some
money
into
the
budget
so
to
help
offset
that,
and
that's
really
what
we're
looking
for,
if
you're
you're
willing
to
move
in
that
direction
on.
J
So
Steve
from
a
big-picture
perspective,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
clear
with
with
solid
waste
now
off
the
table,
we're
really
not
in
this
budget.
Looking
for
for
any
any
particular
permanent
savings,
any
any
change
in
delivery
of
city
services,
anything
that
has
a
long-term
reduction
in
cost
now
I
think
you
showed
a
slide
here
at
the
beginning
that
showed
somewhere,
maybe
in
the
neighborhood
of
a
half
a
million
dollars
in,
but
but
that's
just
those
are
like.
That's
like
an
avoidance
for
this
year.
J
F
F
J
I
just
again,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
have
proper
context
on
the
big
picture
here.
So
so
we
were
basically
done
talking
about
potentially
within
the
big
pitch
picture
of
the
budget.
Here,
we're
done
talking
about
changing
any
cost
trajectory
with
any
of
the
services
that
we
have
in
terms
of
changing
the
way
we
deliver
those
or
finding
different
ways
to
do
them.
We're
simply
going
to
say
that
all
of
the
services
that
we
do
right
now.
F
F
What
you
said
just
a
minute
ago
about
solid
waste
being
off
the
table,
that
that
was
an
important
consideration,
because
what
happens
is
by
you
saying
you
did
not
want
to
pursue
some
outsourcing
option
in
option
number
one.
That's
good
information
for
us,
because
now
the
staff
is
not
going
to
move
in
that
direction.
We
will
move
in
the
other
direction,
which
is
the
hybrid
of
the
two
things,
and
that's
the
same
thing
that
we're
doing
here.
If
you
say
you
don't
want
to
look
at
this,
we
won't
pay
any
attention
to
that.
F
J
J
F
B
F
J
Thanks
for
that
clarification,
where
are
the
proposed
budget
cuts,
then
that
we
will
also
consider
as
part
of
FY
19?
Yes,
I
mean
I
saw
the
list
of
the
500,000?
Yes,
but
those
aren't
really
cuts.
Those
are
just
we're
just
avoiding
that
we're
going
to
delay
we're
not
going
to
put
them
in
the
budget.
Yes,
this
year,
but
I
think
I
looked
over
that
list
I
mean
those
are
I
mean
eventually
the
clerk's
office
is
going
to
have
to
to
go
forward
with
you
know,
with
some
codification
effort,
I
mean
those
types
of
things.
J
F
Yes,
that's
correct,
for
example,
in
the
slide
that
you
see
up
here
in
cost
recovery
fees,
we're
looking
at
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
Well,
most
of
that
comes
in
Community,
Development
I'll
go
back
to
Bob
and
I'll
say:
can
we
get
two
hundred
and
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
after
we
come
back
to
you
with
this
well-being?
F
We
may
not
get
exactly
that
amount,
and
so
maybe
we'll
have
to
delay
the
clerk's
codification,
but
maybe
we
might
be
able
to
get
a
little
more
than
that
when
he
pursues
it
back
to
you,
and
so
then
we
can
put
some
of
that
codification
into
the
clerk's
budget.
We'll
do
that
as
we
get
closer,
but
right
now
what
we're
seeking
is
guidance
from
you.
If
you
would
like
to
pursue
this
as
one
of
the
options.
Thank
you
Steve.
Thank
you.
B
B
F
Yes
and
I
have
gotten
some
information
back
from
a
number
of
councilmen.
Some
people
would
like
to
look
at
cost
savings
by
leaving
positions
unfilled.
Some
would
would
like
to
not
do
that
because,
of
course,
every
time
you
leave
a
position
unfilled.
That
means
that's
of
that
work
that
doesn't
get
done.
So
we
will
look
at
each
one
of
those
very
very
carefully
and
to
see
what
the
cost
of
of
not
filling
that
position
is
and
but
but
where
we
are
going
to
look
at
trying
to
do
that.
E
F
E
F
And
you
know
that's
a
very
good
question
because
we
have
stopped.
We
have
started
doing
some
of
those
things
and
I
will
give
you
a
good
example
that
we
used
to
have
people
to
come
over
to
the
clerk's
office
to
do
their
registration
of
plants
instead
of
doing
that.
Now
we
do
it
over
at
the
government
Center,
and
so
we
can
have
Community
Development
and
Public
Works
at
the
same
place.
F
That
then
slows
down
the
plan
reviews
as
well,
so
it's
tough
to
do
to
both
do
to
do
it
better
with
less
people,
but
we'll
balance
that
out
and
we'll
look
at
each
one
of
those
in
an
effort
to
keep
the
service
level
high
and
still
gain
some
vacancy
savings,
and
that
will
be
a
continuous
challenge,
all
them
in
black.
Thank.
H
H
Those
documents
are
very
helpful
in
tying
what
we're
doing
and
how
we're
doing
it
and
then,
more
importantly,
why
we're
doing
it,
and
so
I
can
sit
here
and
I'm
going
to
vote
for
this,
because
it
will
take
a
look
at
it,
but
I
can
imagine
if
I'm.
Looking
at
my
crystal
ball,
we
see
a
proposal
a
month
from
now
two
months
from
now
to
increase
fees
and,
and
one
group
of
people
is
very
upset
because
it's
going
from
$100
to
$200
and
then
we're
very
concerned
about
what
that
looks
like
do.
H
We
have
the
courage
to
make
that
decision
and
I
want
to
see
when
we
can.
We
have
these
come
back.
Any
of
these
fee
increases
some
tied
a
priority
based
budgeting.
Why
are
we
doing
these
services?
Should
we
be
even
doing
them
any
more
there's,
no
greater
threat
to
our
organization
than
just
saying:
we've
always
done
it.
This
way,
can
we
be
implementing
technologies
at
i2m,
state
mandates
and
the
federal
mandate
isn't
something
that
we've
created.
H
That
would
be
a
better
way
of
having
that
conversation
and
I
know
it's
probably
a
fallen
Community
Development
a
lot,
but
I
mean
that's
something
that
we
have
a
lot
of
the
data
already
for,
but
if
we
can
combine
that
as
far
as
part
of
our
final
decision
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
to
us
and
helpful
the
public
for
that
overall
conversation.
Yes,.
F
Exactly
and
what
we're
doing
here
is
not
proposing
that
we
go
back
and
look
at
every
individual
fee
right
now,
we're
going
to
change
this
fee
from
$75
to
$80.
What
we'll
do
is
generally
we're
talking
about
looking
at
the
whole
thing
and
some
will
increase
and
some
we
won't
and
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
see
every
one
of
those
and
decide
if
some
of
them
may
not
make
any
sense.
Okay,
just.
H
One
more
thing
here:
we've
talked
ad
nauseam
about
the
false
alarm
piece,
and
if
we're
going
to
be
charging
more
people
for
that
more
money
for
it,
we
need
it
better
to
find
what
that
looks.
Like
somebody
rattling
a
window
and
the
cops
show
up
and
then
there's
nobody
there
is
that
truly
a
false
alarm.
There's
no
way
to
tell
that
concern.
H
C
B
Actually,
because
we're
not
gonna
be
able
to
have
spend
this
kind
of
time
on
the
other
ones,
unless
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
postpone
this
until
the
next
meeting.
At
this
point,
madam
clerk,
would
you
call
the
roll
Oh
over
the
weekend
that
we
don't
need
it
I'm?
Sorry,
we
don't
need
that
if
you
will
just
come
in
rush,
your
eye
button
or
nay
button
and
everyone
great.
How
do
you
vote
on
this
I'm.
B
All
right
next,
we
go
to
the
next
item
and
I
will
return
that
back
to
you
again,
we
just
too
in
the
interest
of
time.
If
we
really
do
need
more
time,
for
example,
for
item
three
and
I
think
we
need
to
postpone
that
because
we
do
have
a
regular
meeting,
that's
going
to
start
it
supposed
to
start
in
22
minutes,
and
we
have
to
make
every
effort
to
make
that
happen.
We.
F
Could
move
quickly
through
these
two,
the
other
one?
The
second
one
was
a
business
registration
program
and
again
this
would
be
asking
us
to
come
back
with
a
proposed
ordinance.
Of
course,
what
you
could
do
is
you
don't
have
to
enact
it?
It
would
just
tell
us
that
we
should
not
waste
our
time
moving
forward
on
that,
and
the
same
thing
is
the
second
one
is
the
parking,
and
that
is
increasing
the
parking
fees
for
events.
Once
we
have
an
automated
parking
deck
set
forward.
Okay,.
B
E
A
clarification
about
business
registration
when
we
talked
about
this
the
last
time
I
think
there
was
some
lack
of
clarity
about
whether
this
was
simply
the
registration
and
then
that
later
it's
an
annual
fee
and
I
heard
some
reluctance.
I'm
speaking
for
alderman
Hellman,
now
I
know
she
shared
her
concern
that
it
not
being
you
know
that
we
try
to
limit
our
costs
to
businesses.
So
what
are
you
actually
proposing
sure.
F
What
we
would
propose
is
a
is
a
one-time
business
registration
system
and
there
would
be
a
fee
associated
with
that.
But,
of
course
it
would
be
tied
to
Public
Safety
and
to
building
inspections
and
then
once
we've
done
that
the
first
time
at
least
we
have.
We
have
set
that
in
motion
and
then
after
that,
the
council
could
consider
if
we
wanted
to
raise
that
fees
on
a
regular
basis
or
not,
and
we
could
bring
that
back
to
you
with
with
options
to
take
a
look
at
sure.
F
B
A
B
F
Would
like
to
just
make
one
quick
comment
on
that,
and
that
is
we
will
have
the
automatic
parking
deck
system
in
place
in
the
summer,
maybe
by
August.
So
this
would
be
kind
of
partway
through
the
year
and
what
that
allows
us
to
do
is
to
charge
parking
all
the
time
or
we
could
charge
it
for
events.
We
talked
about
charging
at
full
time
and
that
maintained
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
There
are
a
number
of
people
who
thought.
Maybe
we
would
not
be
supporting
downtown
development
and
evening
activities
by
charging
all
the
time.
F
F
J
Not
gonna
make
a
motion,
but
I
am
going
to
ask
you
a
question.
I
know
I
indicated
in
some
feedback
I
gave
to
staff
that
I
would
appreciate
and
again
being
conscious
of
the
time.
I
don't
want
a
long
conversation
I'm,
just
interested
in
in
perhaps
alderman,
who
have
who
I
would
consider
to
have
a
greater
familiarity
and
expertise
with
downtown
parking.
You
know
maybe
some
thoughts
or
comments
or
ideas
they
they
might
have
about
that
in
them,
I
mean
I
know
there
are
aldermen
who
represent
that
area.
J
L
I
would
be
interested
in
looking
at
some
possible
options
on
this.
One
mostly
tied
to
events.
I
personally
happen
to
be
a
person
who
likes
to
go
to
a
lot
of
concerts
in
various
sounds,
and
so
every
time
we
go
to
a
concert
pretty
much
anywhere
from
Springfield
to
Chicago.
There's
a
parking
fee.
It's
just
part
of
what
you
end
up
playing
in
paying
for
I,
go
to
Tinley
Park
to
see
Jimmy
Buffett
you're,
paying
a
parking
fee,
so
I
would
be
interested
in
looking
at
that.
L
I
would
not
be
interested
in
talking
about
24/7
parking
fees
for
the
garage,
and
my
number
one
reason
for
that
is
that
right
now
the
garages
are
free
in
the
evenings
and
on
the
weekends,
and
it's
very
easy
to
encourage
people
who
might
be
imbibing
to
put
your
car
in
the
garage
leave
it
there.
Uber
lyft
taxi
home
and
be
safe
at
night,
but
people
might
make
bad
decisions
if
they
thought
that
they
were
going
to
pay
for
you
know
that
entire
fee
until
they
came
back
so
that's
their
that's.
L
K
K
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion,
then
that
that
we
asked
staff
pursuant
to
the
draft
the
suggested
motion
to
bring
back
a
proposed
resolution
for
charging
for
special
events.
Only,
although
I
will
say
personally,
I'd
like
to
see
some
options
than
that
as
well,
I'm,
not
sure
$10
per
VIN
is
the
right
number.
So
I'd
like
to
see
some
rationale
or
justification
for
that
which
I'm
sure
the
staff
has
and
can
provide.
K
E
B
E
Want
to
tag
on
with
what
Jamie
was
saying
and
I.
Also
I
don't
want
I
want
to
incentivize
continuing
to
grow,
downtown
activity
and
I
think
it
needs
to
be
in
alignment
with
the
downtown
task
force
report
with
what
Tricia
Stiller's
team
is
doing,
and
you
know
so.
Okay,
finally,
look
at
special
events,
but
I
don't
want
to
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
maintaining
some
flexibilities
so
that
we're
able
to
grow
the
events
that
we
need
to
grow.
Sure.
F
H
H
So
once
we
grow
them,
we
can
revisit
this
in
a
year
and
then
number
two
part
of
what
Jamie
was
talking
about
that
24/7
I
will
vigorously
oppose
any
type
of
overnight
the
parking
charge
for
that,
because
we
need
to
be
encouraging
people
to
make
smart
responsible
decisions,
downtown
and
not
discouraging
them
by
having
them
go
out
there
and
and
try
to
get
behind
the
wheel
and
make
some
very
bad
choices
and
very
dangerous
choices.
Then.
B
F
B
You
so
much
we're
going
to
our
last
action
item
of
this
meeting
and
that
is
item
10
consideration
of
consulting
services,
agreement
in
the
amount
of
$20,000
with
with
gov
HR
for
city
manager,
recruitment
services,
and
we
have
a
brief
presentation
by
Nicole,
Albertson
and
Nicole.
I
asked
you
to
be
as
brief
as
possible
because
we
totally
have
30
minutes
or
20
minutes
budgeted
and
we
don't
have
20
minutes
left.
But.
N
N
So
based
on
the
evaluation
process
and
the
independent
reviews,
we
unanimously
recommend
gov
HR
as
the
executive
search
firm
to
move
forward
with
and
in
the
interest
of
time,
I'm
going
to
stop
there
and
introduce
you
to
Heidi
Voorhees,
who
is
whisk
of
HR
USA
and
she's,
going
to
share
some
details
with
you
on
the
process.
Mr.
O
You
I'm
Heidi
voice,
I
co-own,
gov
HR,
with
Joelle
and
Earl,
who
is
the
consultant
on
the
project
but
could
not
be
here
tonight
so
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
I
know
you're
tight
on
time.
I,
don't
you
know
we?
We
would
do
a
national
recruitment
process
with
heavy
utilization
of
social
media,
traditional
recruitment
efforts
using
web-based
advertising
and
also
old-fashioned,
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
people
and
see
if
they're
interested
and
we
handle
everything
from
working
with
you
and
putting
together
the
position
announcement
to
the
recruitment
brochure
to
the
outreach.
O
You
are
welcome
to
see
all
of
the
resumes
we
can
make
that
happen,
but
we
will
also
interview
the
candidates
that
we
think
are
the
strongest
for
the
position
come
back
and
meet
with
you
to
go
over
each
of
those
candidates
and
you
would
decide
you
know
who
you
would
like
to
bring
in
for
an
interview
and
we
facilitate
that
process.
So
essentially,
we
do
all
of
the
legwork
and
tee
up
the
decisions
for
the
tough
part
for
you.
You.
B
O
Have
over
the
years
that
we've
been
in
business
both
personally
and
professionally,
we
have
formed
relationships
with
the
National
Forum
for
black
public
administrators,
the
International
Hispanic
Network,
with
which
we
recently
changed
their
name
to
the
local
government,
Hispanic
Network.
We
are
founding
members
of
the
Legacy
Project
in
Illinois,
which
advances
women
and
local
government.
O
Should
we
attend
conferences,
we
interact
with
these
organizations
so
that
we
have
knowledge
of
potential
candidates
and
we
can
also
reach
out
to
their
boards
and
to
people
who
are
active
with
those
organizations
as
well
and
we
can
advertise
on
their
websites.
So
there's
there's
lots
of
ways
in
all
the
ways
that
I
mentioned
earlier
through
personal
outreach
and
advertising
that
we
would
look
for
all
qualified
candidates
to.
H
You
and
thank
you
for
putting
this
together
and
Nicole,
and
the
committee
for
everyone
working
on
this
I'll
tell
you
that
when
we
had
this
conversation
in
October,
my
position
has
evolved
since
then.
I
think
that,
based
on
the
feedback,
I've
gotten
from
town
halls
and
conversations
I've
had
to
specifically
with
staff
I
think
we
should
do
this
search
in-house.
So
I'm
going
to
be
opposing
this
at
this
time.
Okay,.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
information
about
both
HR
Thank
You
Nicole
and
your
team
for
supporting,
through
the
many
vendors
that
we
that
we
requested
and
for
going
through
the
RFP
process,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
endorse
staffs
recommendation
and
that
we
engage
the
consulting
services
of
grev
hrusa
LLC,
provide
the
recruitment
services
for
our
position
of
city
manager
and
I.
Look
forward
to
working
with
this
group
that
was
selected
there.
L
B
And
just
so
that
we
can
clarify,
because
we
got
quite
a
few
people
in
the
audience
and
I
bet
you're
all
here
for
city
manager
of
recruitment
and
in
that
is
it
it
is.
It
is
standard
operating
procedure,
even
since
I
used
to
work
for
the
International
City,
you
know
County
Management
Association
to
do
national
searches
and
I.
Think
Karen
can
confirm
that
you
know
even
at
a
university
II
whether
you
have
an
internal
candidate
or
not
a
strong
internal
candidate,
it
tends
to
be
a
standard
operating
procedure
so
that
this
is
no.
B
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
so
much
misery's
and
we
look
forward
working
with
you
as
well.
Okay,
at
this
point.
After
all
of
that,
we
are
actually
only
one.
We
have
one
minute
ahead
of
schedule
and
as
I
say,
we
really
close
strong
in
the
fourth
quarter.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
moved
by
all
them
in
black?
Is
there
a
second
second
by
alderman
Matthew,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
we're
adjourned?
We'll
see
you
in
about
five
and
a
half
minutes?
Thank
you.