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May 11, 2015 - City Council Work Session
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B
F
Think
that
the
idea
of
connecting
different
parts
of
the
trail
to
other
segments
of
it
is
something
that's
been
on.
The
in
the
plan
for
many
many
years,
I
moved
here
with
preschoolers
25
years
ago,
and
on
my
first
walk
around
white
oak
lake
I
was
thrilled
to
see
that
it
would
someday
be
connected
to
the
rest
of
the
trail
and
25
years
later.
F
It
still
is
not,
and
it's
rather
difficult
to
go
from
this
part
of
the
city,
to
the
others,
they're
less
comfortable
road
access
and
so
I
think
that
it's
a
good
idea
to
try
to
incorporate
that
into
your
planning
right
now.
I
know
things
are
rough
right
now,
but
in
the
future
it's
unlikely
to
stay
that
way,
and
so,
if
there's
any
way
that
you
could
consider
using
the
you
know,
or
at
least
putting
the
planning
in
for
engineering,
that
would
be
a
really
good
thing
to
do.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say.
B
Thank
you
so
much
and
we
go
right
to
our
first
item:
expansion,
a
request
for
quote
RFQ,
scope
of
work
for
repairs
to
the
linen
Street,
Bridge,
Jersey,
Avenue,
Bridge
and
cottage
avenue,
and
the
bridge
to
include
an
underpass
preparation
for
future
constitution,
trail
expansion
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
mr.
Rasmussen
and
mr.
karge.
Yes,.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
and
there
we're
going
to
ask
the
assistant
superintendent
park,
mr.
David
Lamm,
to
give
you
a
quick
presentation
on
these
two
things.
Several
members
of
the
council
has
already
viewed
this
out
at
white
oak
park,
and
so
this
will
be
review
for
them
and
new
for
the
rest
of
you.
Mr.
lamb
Thank.
E
You
mr.
Asmussen,
mr.
mayor
council,
oh
thank
you
for
having
me
here
tonight.
I've
just
got
a
brief
presentation,
short
one
about
the
linden
street
bridge
and
the
constitution
trail
in
general.
This
came
to
our
attention
through
cooperative
work
between
the
parks,
department,
engineering,
Public,
Works,
that
this
linden
street
bridge
is
in
need
of
repair.
So
we
looked
back
and
looked
at
how?
How
does
this
fit
into
the
overall
scheme
of
things
with
in
bloomington-normal
in
the
constitution
trail?
There's
two
plans
that
currently
call
for
trail
connection
and
east-west
rail
connection
through
bloomington.
E
The
bloomington
parks
master
plan
adopted
by
the
council
in
january
of
2010
identifies
this
as
a
high
priority
in
the
McClain
County
greenways
plan
identifies
this
as
a
preserving
green
space
throughout
the
community.
So
give
me
just
a
second
here
to
forward
these
slides
if
you
would
okay,
this
is
the
area
that
we're
talking
about
the
lineage
three
bridges
in
the
middle.
This
is
the
blue,
is
the
current
constitution
trail
and
just
to
the
right
of
that
is
Linden
Street.
The
red
is
the
proposed
Constitution
Trail,
which
runs
right
along
side
of
sugar
creek.
E
Just
to
the
north
side
of
sugar
creek,
there's
three
bridges
that
are
in
question
here
and
they're
all
very
unique
together
in
the
fact
that
they
all
need
to
be
replaced
at
some
point
in
the
future
and
they
all
have
potential
trail
to
run
underneath
them.
So
the
thinking
is
that
why
go
in
10-15
years
later
or
whatever
your
time
frame
is
tear
down
a
newly
constructed
bridge
when
you
can
make
the
accommodations
for
the
trail
underpass
at
this
time.
E
This
is
a
close
up
of
the
area.
There.
That's
Linden
Street
Constitution
trail
to
the
west
potential
trail
in
red
to
the
north
of
the
bridge
bridge
there,
as
you
do
notice.
If
this
was
not
to
be
an
underground
crossing
and
it
was
to
be
above
ground
crossing,
it
would
be
a
mid
block
which
those
are
much
more
difficult
to
do
and
less
safe
as
there's
not
an
intersection
there
or
a
light.
E
So
if
we
were
to
provide
this
crossing
without
the
underpass,
it
would
be
a
more
hazardous
crossing
and
uncrossing
with
an
underpass,
and
it
would
definitely
slow
down
the
flow.
This
is
the
view
right
now
of
the
linden
street
bridge
looking
west.
Obviously
it
didn't
need
a
repair,
as
you
know,
it's
down
to
one
lane
right
now
in
both
sides,
so
I
believe
Public
Works
is
planning
on
repairing
this
bridge
either
way,
whether
or
not
we
do
the
underpass
or
not
that's
looking
west
on
sugar
creek.
That
part
is
sugar.
Creek
is
concrete.
E
Bottom
there's
plenty
of
parts
of
sugar
creek
that
are
wet
bottom.
This
is
growth
street
underpass
or
Washington
Street
underpass.
This
is
just
one
of
our
other
trail
underpasses.
This
is
what
I
would
assume
that
this
would
look
like
after
it's
constructed
something
similar
to
this.
We
currently
have
two
underpasses
in
Bloomington,
under
one
underneath
Washington
Street,
here,
one
right
next
to
Sugar
Creek
long
GE
road
again,
this
is
another
view
of
the
area.
Looking
east
I,
believe
upstream,
as
you
can
see,
the
ground
is
relatively
level.
E
This
is
kind
of
already
set
up
for
a
trail
to
be
put
in
it's
already
being
maintained
by
a
public
entity
by
bin.
Word
is
another
view.
It's
a
nice
nice
wooded
area,
you
know
putting
in
a
trail
would
not
be
that
difficult
from
an
engineering
standpoint,
the
grounds
relatively
slopes
relatively
minor.
E
This
is
the
north-south
trail
bridge.
Right
now,
that's
on
the
trail
going
over
Sugar
Creek.
That
would
just
be
a
view
you
would
have
their
of
the
bridge
from
the
underpass.
This
is
kind
of
a
bonus
here
that
came
up
as
we
were
looking
at
this.
This
is
Briarwood
subdivision
right
on
the
north
edge
of
Bloomington,
and
if
we
did
just
this
one
underpass,
we
could
easily
hook
the
briar
woods
subdivision
through
land
we
already
own
majority,
we
already
own
with
some
sidewalk
onto
a
small
trail
and
then
right
up
to
Constitution
trail
there.
E
So
if
this
kind
of
came
presented
itself
to
us
through
working
with
Public
Works
is
this
is
just
a
additional
benefit
of
this
to
getting
people
from
Briarwood
onto
the
Constitution
trail.
So
this
is
an
immediate
need
to
repair
this
bridge,
but
it
requires
long-term
vision
and
planning
from
the
counseling
from
staff.
As
I
mentioned,
the
linden
street
bridge
is
in
the
worst
condition
of
the
three,
but
all
three
need
to
be
repaired
and
I
believe
there's
a
schedule
in
your
memo
for
that
projected
schedule.
E
This
trail
right
here,
the
Sugar
Creek
branches
will
call
it
will
connect
white
oak
and
Ewing
parks
together
through
the
trail.
You
know
ultimately
through
that
it
would
provide
contiguous
trail
from
white
oak
park,
all
the
way
out
to
Tipton
park
and
then
out
to
towanda
barnes
road,
so
this
would
provide
a
very,
very
serious,
east-west
length
through
bloomington.
Support
of
this
branch
of
the
trail
is
obvious,
as
we
have
somebody
here
tonight.
E
Historically,
one
of
the
major
roadblocks
in
obtaining
trail
in
creating
trail
is
land
acquisition
all
throughout
the
state
of
Illinois.
It's
been
very
difficult
to
acquire
some
of
these
rail
lines.
Some
of
this
land
to
put
our
trail
through
this
land
here
that
we're
talking
about
is
already
in
public
ownership
through
Benward,
so
that
would
be
a
cooperative
agreement.
We
would
have
to
work
out
with
them.
We're
not
purchasing
any
land
here,
we're
not
having
to
go
through
any
contracts
with
rail
companies
or
anything
like
that
to
get
this
land.
E
So
that's
another
bonus
in
summary.
I
just
wanted
to
add
that
the
trail
is
a
very
popular
asset
to
our
community.
It
provides
both
recreation
and
sustainable,
multimodal
transportation
through
bloomington-normal.
We
feel
that
it
makes
sound
planning
sense
to
accommodate
this
trail
wherever
possible
in
our
planning
efforts.
So
with
that
I'll
open
it
up
for
questions,
questions.
G
You
your
honor,
if
I,
could
help
focus
the
council
a
little
bit
on
this.
What
we're
asking
here
is
not
for
a
decision
on
which
way
to
build
it.
Now
that
will
come
later,
we're
really
asking
for
some
guidance
on
which
way
we
should
begin
to
design
it
repair.
The
bridge
might
be
four
or
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
depending
on
how
it
comes
out.
G
If
we
do
it
with
the
underpass
for
the
trail,
it
might
be
seven
or
eight
or
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
it's
considerably
more,
but
then
you
would
not
have
to
go
back
and
build
it
later.
So
we're
not
asking
the
council
to
decide
now
which
one
to
build
that
decision
can
come
later,
but
we
have
to
have
the
engineers
to
go
to
work
now
and
there
is
considerable
cost
that
is
incurred
by
doing
the
design
work.
G
H
David,
okay,
I
came
tonight
with
a
perception,
as
I
thought
about
our
underpass
connections.
I,
guess,
I,
remember
back
when
we
built
the
beer,
nuts
or
the
washington
street.
There
was
a
lot
of
controversy
about
that
and
security,
and
things
like
that,
and
it's
turned
out
that
that
hasn't
been
the
case.
H
It's
lit,
but
that's
that's
kind
of
enclosed,
but
what
I
was
envisioning
when
I
came
tonight
is
something
similar
to
what
you
mentioned
at
there's
two
there
actually
two
there's
one
under
her:
she
and
there's
one
under
o
veterans
under
betting
that
won't
be
normal
technically
one
under
Baines
but
yeah
and
to
me
those
are
not
enclosed
but
they're,
open,
they're
right
alongside
to
the
water,
brick
and
I.
Think
to
me
that
sends
a
more
open
or
a
safer
environment.
So
I
know
we're
not
here
to
build
it
tonight,
but
I.
H
E
I
mean
that's
a
great
point:
I
think
we
have.
We
don't
have
any
security
concerns
with
either
these
underpasses,
since
any
of
them
put
in
we've
never
had
any
additional
problems
with
security.
They
don't
seem
to
get
any
more
vandalism
than
anything
else.
So
I
do
believe
that
this
one
would
be
more
similar
to
the
one
on
GE
road.
This
one
here
on
Grove
Street
was
newer,
looks
a
little
nicer,
so
I
use
that
one
is
my
photo,
but.
I
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I'll
be
very
brief
in
that
I'm,
very
supportive
of
including
the
trail
design
into
the
into
the
engineering,
namely
because
we
talk
so
much
about
how
things
cost
us
a
lot
of
money,
but
the
cost
in
this
case
of
doing
nothing
is
significantly
higher
and
in
my
conversations
across
the
ward
and
throughout
the
city,
the
Constitution
trail
is
a
as
an
asset.
People
love
it.
There
are
constantly
out
there
I
appreciate
how
you
had
a
rollerblader
in
the
opening
slide.
It
was
not
me
and
it's
funny.
I
I
This
plan,
along
with
the
bike
plan
later
this
evening,
is
that
many
people
use
the
Constitution
trailers
they're
mean
means
for
getting
around
the
community
savory
because
they
don't
have
a
vehicle
or
they
can't
take
the
bus
or
for
whatever
reason
and
I
think
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
consider
those
folks
as
well
all
right.
Thank
you,
sir.
All.
A
Too,
am
very
interested
in
having
this
happen
and
I
think
it's
a
lot
less
I'm
guessing
it's
a
lot
less
expensive
to
think
about
doing
it
up
front
and
not
retrofitting
it
afterwards.
Could
you
talk
of
someone
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
funding
for
this?
You
know
what
line
is
it
in
and
I'm,
assuming
that
the
difference
in
cost
between
adding
it
and
not
adding
it
is
upfront
costs
and
then
there's
costs
that
comes
along
afterwards
to
actually
finalize
it?
Is
that
am
I?
Looking
at
that
right?
Yes,.
J
Schmidt,
this
is
with
motor
fuel
tax
funds,
and
this
would
be
initially
under
the
design.
So
you
go
through
the
RFQ
process,
which
would
not
preclude
us
from
getting
additional
funding.
Whenever
you
go
through
the
RFQ
process.
That
quality
based
selection
should
another
funding
source
be
available.
It
leaves
us
open
for
that.
But
yes,
so
the
design
and
the
construction,
and
if
we
do
it
to
motor
fuels
tax
standards,
it
allows
us
to
be
eligible
for
any
other,
the
funding
it
becomes
available
so.
A
K
J
Is
we
clarify?
No,
actually,
what
I
would
be
asking
for
is
to
be
able
to
design
one
based
upon
the
feedback
from
the
council
tonight.
Thank
you
for
the
clarification.
I
would
be
asking
that
for
some
clarity
of
direction
so
that
when
we
go
through
the
RFQ
process,
we
designed
for
one
and
then
we
would
still
bring
that
back
to
the
council
for
final
approval,
but
we
would
move
forward
to
the
contract
accordingly,.
K
Thank
You
mayor
so
just
to
follow
up
a
little
bit
on
what
Karen
said.
The
approximate
fifty
percent
increase
between
the
two
designs:
what's
what's
the
actual
dollar
difference
right
now,
just
simply
at
the
design
point
that
we're
at
where
we
would
that
we're
talking
about
the
additional
costs
that
to
design
with
the
you
know,
with
a
constitution
trail
underpass
I
mean
it
can't
be
a
whole
lot
of
money.
I
can't
I,
don't
think
correct.
J
It's
always
difficult
to
give
an
approximation,
but
if
I
were
I'd
put
it
at
the
ten
percent
mark
whenever
you
go
by
that,
so
that
would
be
instead
of
three
hundred
thousand
for
the
difference
of
construction.
Ten
percent
of
that
would
be
thirty
thousand
dollars
the
difference
in
design.
So
that's
a
ballpark
range
to
give
you
right.
K
So
so
again,
that's
kind
of
put
some
dollars
and
cents
on
what
were
asked
to
do
right
now:
Jim
the
fact
that
we're
putting
what
would
propose
to
place
a
constitution
trail
underneath
this
does
that
call
in
to
play
or
put
into
play-
and
I
know
this
is
far
off
in
the
future,
but
but
right
now
conceptually.
Does
it
open
up
the
door
for
any
other
grants?
The
fact
that
we're
adding
the
you
know
the
multimodal
aspect
to
this
design
that.
J
Is
the
hope,
alderman
sage,
that
is
the
hope,
is
that
when
the
city
makes
investments,
you
know
that
does
allow
us
to
be
eligible
for
other
grants.
For
all
of
that,
you
know,
because
you
do,
there
are
ocelot
other
grants
that
do
become
available
occasionally
and
so
by
the
city
positioning
themselves.
For
that
long
term
benefit,
it
does
allow
us
to
apply
and
seem
like.
We
really
do
care
about
this.
You
note,
when
8
mile
amenity
in
our
community
that
people
love
okay,.
B
Thank
you,
Jim
just
to
forget
to
ultimate
allow
us
to
follow
up
in
that
a
little
bit
when
we
were
in
the
one
voice
trip.
Let's
see,
David
Hales
myself,
Jim
I,
were
you
in
the
transportation
or
were
you
on
the
middle
you
with
us,
we're
in
the
you
know
talking
to
people.
Basically,
the
people
are
going
to
vet.
The
tiger
grants
one
of
the
critical
things
they
told
us
is
when
we're
applying
with
probably
an
apply
for
two
in
our
community.
B
One
is
kind
of
the
multimodal
and
we'll
connect
transit
over
here
in
front
of
Law
and
Justice
Center
to
show
that
we're
integrating
into
the
future
of
Transportation,
so
we're
not
just
talking
about
bus,
+,
+,
rail
bus,
Plus,
autobus,
+
bike
trails
and
that
we're
serving
a
variety
of
impacted,
neighborhoods,
older
neighborhoods,
etc.
All
of
those
things
raise
your
ranking,
so
it's
not
implausible
that
things
like
this
could
be
used
to
help
us
leverage
other
types
of
grants
as
well.
Well
and.
K
Thanks
for
clarifying
them,
because
I
think
that's
the
point,
I
was
trying
to
make,
even
though
we're
talking
about
potentially
300,000
that
that
may
not
be
the
net
amount
that
the
city
might
be
accountable
for.
If
the
fact
that
we're
putting
the
Constitution
trail
underneath
it
opens
up
the
potential
for
some
other
grants
to
offset
the
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
extra
that
we're
talking
about
to.
D
I
hate
to
be
the
guy
that
always
rain
on
the
parade
here,
but
I'm
going
to
have
to
to
put
things
in
perspective.
We've
got
a
lot
of
engineering
issues
that
we
need
to
be
addressing,
and
at
the
very
top
of
list,
I
would
certainly
think
would
be
some
of
the
things
I've
talked
to
our
engineering
department
about
just
offhandedly.
We
have
some
intersections
along
major
thoroughfares
right
around
some
of
our
grade
schools
that
don't
allow
for
proper
turning
radius
for
our
school
buses.
D
We've
got
a
number
of
issues
where
we
don't
even
really
know
where
the
property
high
school
property
lines
lie,
and
we
need
to
get
those
things
underway.
First,
so
I
think
we've
got
a
lot
of
things
that
really
need
to
be
at
the
top
of
list,
and
this
would
come
way
down
the
list.
This
is
not
an
absolute
need.
Those
things
are,
those
things
do
provide
safety.
This
would
provide
some
safe,
but
it's
recreational.
D
For
the
most
part,
a
very
very
small
number
of
our
citizens
are
actually
using
this
to
get
back
and
forth
to
work
as
a
need
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
this
particular
section
would
suit
anybody's
absolute
need
in
that
neighborhood
I
would
expect
that
nearly
everyone
is
probably
driving
to
work
back
and
forth.
So
again,
a
little
bit
of
perspective.
D
J
In
an
hour
I,
you
know
I'm
the
infrastructure
guy
I
get
to
be
the
many
times
the
doomsayer
about
the
needs
of
the
infrastructure.
So
I
very
much
understand
the
point.
What
I'll
convey
to
the
council
as
a
whole
is
that
we
always
look
for
opportunities
and
whenever
you
know
you
with
a
bridge
replacement,
that's
different
than
a
road.
J
A
J
Whenever
we've
we've
gotten
calls
about
the
bear,
the
barrels
that
are
up
that
are
blocking
all
I.
What
are
these
barrels
up
here
for
you
I
these?
These
have
been
up
here.
For
yes,
they
have
enough
their
wake
too
long.
That's
because
the
bridge
deck
we're
steering
traffic
off
that
center
lane.
From
from
a
loading
standpoint,
are
you
know
the
structural
analysis
says
it's
best
to
just
keep
the
cars
off
that
area,
and
so
yes,
this
bridge
very
this
bridge
deck
very
much
needs
to
be
replaced
all.
L
J
Was
discussed
in
design
actually
for
last
year's
budget
when
the
issue
came
along,
we
actually
did
discuss
this
to
bring
before
you
during
the
last
fiscal
year
we're
now
just
in
the
very
beginning
of
this
next
fiscal
year.
The
issue
came
up,
then
we
said:
well,
we
don't.
We.
Mr.
Lam
could
probably
talk
about
this,
but
there's
a
lot
of
public
involvement
to
that's
important
for
you
to
know.
We
reached
out
to
a
lot
of
the
community.
J
The
community
component
right
there
on
the
north
side
of
Sugar
Creek,
had
some
involvement
and
engagement
with
those
citizens
to
try
to
say
well.
How
important
is
this
to
you
have
any
concerns
of
this
trail,
so
there
was
also
extensive
involved,
so
that
took
a
little
bit
longer
and
pushed
us
into
this
fiscal
year.
Fy
16,
with
hopeful
construction
depending
upon
the
design
and
any
other
issues
in
the
next
fiscal
year.
So.
J
Did
the
one
thing
was
motor
fuel
tax
is
motor
fuel
taxes
a
little
bit
different
than
many.
Many
of
the
other
general
fund
that
our
Council
is
used
to
working
with
motor
fuel
tax
is
almost
like
a
bank
with
it
sits
there
of
funds
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
our
normal.
We
get
the
funds
from
the
state
and
that
sits
in
the
bank
many
times
we
we
build
that
up
over
years
to
pay
for
very
expensive
molding
on
multi-million
dollar
projects,
for
example,
to
know
the
Fox
Creek
Bridge.
That's
coming
up
that
replacement.
J
J
J
M
M
That
could
mean
an
overpass
which
would
mean
routing
Constitution
traffic
over
the
street,
which
would
interrupt
the
flow
of
traffic
on
a
street
that
is
fairly
heavily
traveled
and
also
would
create
a
potential
safety
hazard
for
those
individuals
crossing
the
street
and
well
yeah.
Go
ahead
and
address
that.
If,
if.
J
I
could
I'll
clarify
because
you're
very
close,
so
what
they're
you're
correct,
though
the
options
are
this
right
now
from
the
design
standpoint,
if
you
don't,
if
the
council
says
hey,
we
don't
want
to
build
this
with
a
wider
span
of
the
bridge
to
accommodate
a
constitution
trail
underneath
so
20
years
from
now
we
say:
well
boy
we're
going
to
we've
got
the
grant
funding
we're
ready
to
move
forward.
We
want
to
increase
this
amenity.
Then
you
still
have
the
choice
of
over
at
greater
under,
but
under
is
probably
not
going
to
be
feasible.
J
At
that
point,
it's
from
a
cost
standpoint.
Overpass
still
is
feasible;
it
wouldn't
interrupt
traffic.
It
would
be.
You
know
it
would
be
a
grade
separated.
So
you
know
similar
to
oakland
avenue,
just
east
of
clinton
in
that
area.
There
there's
it
so
that
allows
people
to
cross
safely.
Again,
that's
a
cost
standpoint
later
after
the
fact
or
you
could
do
an
at-grade
that
there
are
others
in
the
community
that
are
not
grade
crossing.
So
that
is
something
that's
potential.
Then,
but
again,
it's
not
it's
not
as
safe.
It's
not
the
best
case
scenario.
M
J
E
N
You
well
I
agree
with
alderman
Lauer
that
we
do
have
some
pressing
age
that
we
have
to
deal
with
right
now,
but
the
future
is
still
going
to
get
here
and
I
think
that
it
behooves
us
to
plan
for
the
future
right
and
if
having
an
underpass,
will
position
us
to
get
more
grant
money
and
be
safer
for
pedestrians
and
bicycle
riders
in
the
future.
I'm
for
going
the
extra
mile
right
now
and
doing
things
right.
Thanks.
D
To
keep
coming
back
to
this,
but
we've
got
a
fire
station
sitting
out
in
the
country
that
was
supposed
to
make
it
safer
too,
and
you
know
that
at
grade
or
a
boat
below
grade
or
rub
upgrade
or
whatever
grade
you
want,
is
making
a
massive
assumption
that
we're
going
to
have
the
money
to
expand
to
thrill
the
first
place,
I'm
not
ready
to
make
that
assumption.
Yet
we've
got
an
awful
lot
on
our
plate.
D
B
O
J
Bridges
can
take
quite
a
while,
so
what
we
would
anticipate
is
the
design
for
us
to
go
out
for
an
arc.
You
finish
that
during
these
summer
months
get
that
under
design.
So
the
construction
can
begin
during
next
year's
construction
season
depending
upon
when
it
begins
you,
we
would
hope
that
it
did.
The
work
would
be
done
during
the
construction
season.
J
A
lot
of
that
depends
upon
when
it
gets
started
when
winter
hits
that
always
as
part
of
the
issue,
but
but
yes,
we
would
hope
to
have
that
done
the
substantial
completion
by
the
following
year
and
that
would
include
most
likely
a
bridge
shut.
You
know
complete
shutdown
of
that
road
for
a
little
bit,
but
then
probably
would
look
at
alternates
to
keep
roads.
So
we
look
at
both.
We
do
look
a
complete
shutdown
versus
doing
half
of
the
span
foot
at
a
time
and.
H
Them
fruit.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Jim
I'm,
supportive
of
this
I
think,
primarily
because
of
the
long
extension
and
not
so
much
the
connection,
because
right
now,
I,
don't
consider
it
a
safety
issue,
because,
if
you're
coming
out
of
Briarwood,
all
you're
doing
is
coming
down
to
the
four-way
stop
crossing
at
the
Linden
Street
stop
there
and
we've
already
got
the
path
off
Emerson
to
the
trail.
So
we've
already
got
access
for
Briarwood
if
they
come
to
the
intersection.
H
J
I
can
add
to
this
for
the
council
whenever
we
look
at
greenways.
This
is
important
for
you
to
know
that
just
an
overall
philosophy,
when
you
see
overall
Sugar
Creek,
some
major
conveyance,
it
carries
a
lot
of
water.
It
goes
underneath
major
roads.
Those
are
the
opportunities
that
you
think
about
getting
from
point
A
to
point
B
quickly.
It's
not
only
beautiful
it.
Also
water
many
times
in
this
case
can
take
a
very
quick
path
that
cuts
in
differently
than
the
streets,
and
so
it's
it's
a
very
that's
why
it's
popular!
That's!
B
Essentially,
viewed
almost
exactly
our
time
at
this
point
is
the
remotion
to
provide
conceptual
support
of
expanding
the
RFQ
scope
of
work
for
engineering
services.
Excuse
me
I'm,
going
to
start
the
vote
here.
So
if
you
vote
first
of
all,
I
need
of
emotion
is
there
a
motion
to
my
wife
will
make
that
much
to
provide
conceptual
support
of
expanding
RFQ
scope
of
work
for
engineering
service
to
include
engineering
for
future
concentrate
tution
trail
underpasses
at
linden
street
jersey,
avenue
cottage
avenue
bridges
over
Sugar
Creek.
B
B
Okay,
now
we
move
right
along
to
the
next
item,
her
she
rode
Arrowhead
and
Clearwater
avenue.
Excuse
me:
firstly,
road
arrowhead,
drive
and
clearwater
avenue
on
street
parking,
elimination
and
the
requestors
that
the
city
council
vote
to
provide
conceptual
support
of
the
parking
elimination,
but
we're
going
to
start
with
a
presentation
by
mr.
karch
the
speed
you
want
anything
yes,.
G
J
You
assistant
city
manager,
Rasmussen,
mayor
and
city
council,
this
is
a
project
that
we
have
been
working
on.
We
do
know
that
there
is
a
need
for
two
traffic
signals
that
that
have
been
in
the
budget
we've
been
working
toward
that
we've
come
to.
The
port
would
need
to
bring
an
issue
before
you
for
consideration,
and
so
we
do
have
two
signals
along
her.
She
rode
both
Clearwater
and
Arrowhead,
and
we've
been
under
designed
for
those.
J
So
with
this,
what
we've
got
is
we
are
looking
to
add
additional
left
turn
lanes,
we're
looking
to
add
signals
and
turn
lanes
and
some
just
an
expansion
at
the
intersection.
What
this
is
going
to
do
is
this
is
going
to
impact
people,
the
motoring
public
that
goes
through
this,
this
signal
e
intersection,
but
then
also
the
people
who
live
along
here.
Let
me
start
off
by
saying
that
her
Shiro,
when
this
was
originally
designed
it
really
shouldn't,
have
been
done.
J
The
way
it
was
done,
it's
important
for
you
to
know
that
this
is
an
arterial
road,
her.
She
rode
carries
sixteen
thousand
cars
a
day
and
there
was
a
choice
a
long
time
ago,
when
this
is
built
to
put
residential
homes
all
the
way,
along
with
direct
access
onto
an
arterial
road.
That
is
not
good
design.
If
we
were
to
bring
that
to
you
today,
it's
not
recommended
to
be
done.
J
That
way,
and
this
is
the
reason
why,
because
from
an
access
standpoint,
it's
difficult
for
residents
who
live
along
there,
it's
difficult
for
them
with
working
is
difficult
for
municipalities
to
properly
get
people
through
there.
Currently
we
have
a
situation
on
her.
She
rode
to
wear
throughout
the
week
people
you
have
two
lanes
in
each
direction.
This
is
great
you're,
traveling
down
southbound,
you're
traveling
from
GE
and
there's
no
issues,
then
all
the
sudden
on
the
on
the
weekend.
Oh
now
there's
people
parking
and-
and
you
know,
you're
you're
you're,
taking
evasive
action.
J
It
feels
like
at
times
we've
heard
complaints
over
many
decades
of
this
being
an
issue
well,
and
we
have
again
the
more
traffic
you
have,
the
more
issues
there
is
going
to
be,
and
so
what
we're
seeing
is
traffic
isn't
going
to
start
slowing
down
on
her?
She
wrote
some
roads,
like
Regency,
for
example,
have
actually
less
in
their
traffic
over
the
years
regency
and
fair.
We
have
gotten
less
vehicles
per
day,
not
not
her.
She
rode
her.
J
She
rode
is
going
to
continue
to
grow
and
because
of
that,
we
need
to
make
sure
we
not
only
take
into
account
the
current
conditions,
but
one
of
those
future
conditions
going
to
be
one
of
them
is
dealing
with
parking.
So
it's
important
for
you
to
know
right
now.
You
know
we
talk
about
traffic
signals
or
or
even
stop
signs
all
the
time,
and
you
know
we
want
to.
J
Maybe
we
want
them
in
lots
of
different
places
or
we
want
them
all
over
all
over
the
place,
because
we
think
sometimes
they
help
traffic
or
make
things
safer,
not
always
just
a
quick
education
point.
Whenever
you
put
up
a
traffic
signal
or
a
stop
sign,
they
have
to
meet
warrants.
So
there's
traffic
signal
warrants
traffic
sign
warrants
in
this
case
along
hershey.
J
For
these
two
signals
at
both
intersections
weren't
three
of
this
motor
manual
of
uniform
traffic
control
devices
of
federal
regulation,
says
they're
already
warranted
they
already
you're
needed
right
now,
not
just
whenever
the
traffic
gets
up
to
24,000
vehicles
a
day,
they're
warranted
now,
and
it's
on
a
delay
basis.
That's
on
that
side
street
how
long
it
takes
for
people
to
get
through
there.
So
let's
talk
about
other
reasons
because
of
some
of
the
accidents
that
happen.
Some
turn
some
angle
accidents.
You
know
these
are
some
other
justifications
for
us.
J
Looking
at
this
stephenson
school
is
right.
There
we've
got
many
concerns
over
the
over
the
years
about
the
kiddos
getting
to
school
safely
crossing
over
at
Arrowhead,
and
so
we
have
to
look-
and
this
allows
us
for
some
increased
safety
at
that
intersection
as
well.
So
let's
talk,
though,
about
parking
specifically
are
here
to
before
you
tonight
to
talk
about
parking
along
this.
J
Whenever
we
look
at
expanding
that
that
road
and
adding
that
left
turn
lane
the
people
along
clearwater,
which
is
on
the
right
side,
arrowhead
on
the
left,
they're
going
to
be
directly
impacted
by
removal
of
parking
on
their
street
well
I've
been
involved
before
I
was
a
public
works.
Director
I
was
a
project
engineer
for
the
city
and
I
helped
build
airport
road
north
of
empire.
I
helped
work
on
hamilton
road,
around
morris
avenue
and
to
the
west
and
to
the
east
of
there.
So
you
know
you'll
notice.
If
you
drive
along
those.
J
What
do
you
see?
You
see
some
turnaround.
You
see
these
little
little
turn
in
and
turn
out
the
things
that
happen
well,
the
reason
for
that
is
again.
Those
are
arterial
roads.
We
expand.
We
try
to
make
sure
we
accommodate
what's
happening
in
this,
so
we
offer
when
we
eliminate
parking
people
need
to
park
somewhere.
So
we're
allowing
we're
trying
to
work
with
these
folks
to
say:
hey
will
allow
for
a
turnaround
and
the.
But
now
the
issue
comes
along
her.
She
rode.
What
do
we
do
with
her?
J
She
wrote
it's
ideal
if
we
can
to
eliminate
some
of
that
weekend
parking,
and
so
we
we
said,
let's
see
this
came
out
of
actually
a
public
meeting.
This
is
important
for
you
to
know.
It's
citizen
came
up
with
this
and
a
December
first
2014
meeting,
they
said
hey.
If
you
give
us
a
turnaround,
whoa
we'd
support
getting
rid
of
parking,
so
we
said
well,
let's,
let's
look
at
that,
and
so
we
actually
sent
out
some.
We
actually
sent
out
two
different
surveys
to
folks
who
try
to
gauge
their
interest.
J
J
We
call
that
more
of
that
tea
turn
around
and
that's
where
again,
both
of
these
are
designed
to
be
for
a
single
car
they're
not
intended
to
be
a
huge
parking
lot
in
people's
front
yard,
they're
not
intended
to
be
a
big
detriment
to
the
community
they're
intended
to
be
an
amenity
for
the
people
there,
because
we're
impacting
them,
and
so
there's
either
a
parallel
or
a
tea
parking,
and
so
now
that
we
we
now,
let's
look
at
her.
She
rode
so
when
we
sent
out
the
property
surveys.
Actually
we
were
pleasantly
surprised.
J
Ten
of
the
property
said
yes
remove
the
parking
weekend
parking
and
provide
my
property
with
the
driveway
turn
around.
That
was
that
was
a
pleasant
surprise
for
said,
no
don't
remove
the
weekend
parking
and
then
three
did
not
respond.
We've
tried
to
reach
out
to
those
additional
three
as
well,
but
again,
the
vast
majority
deuce
have
been
supportive
of
removal
of
that
parking
and
allowing
for
these
turnarounds.
So
we
need
to
know
where
we're
going
with
this.
J
N
Well,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
work
you've
done
on
this,
because
you
really
have
done
a
great
deal
and,
as
you
know,
there
are
some
people
that
are
very
opposed
to
this,
but
most
people
are
for
it
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
move
ahead
with
this.
I
I
also
want
to
give
you
a
heads
up.
There
are
one
or
two
people
that
would
like
to
talk
with
you
about
this
a
little
bit,
so
they.
N
N
Anyway,
thank
you
and
I
think
that
for
everyone's
safety,
it's
important
that
this
moves
forward.
I
have
to
say
that
in
the
beginning,
I
was
a
little
skeptical
about
this,
but
then
I
asked
for
a
report
on
all
of
the
traffic
accidents
within
a
six-month
period,
and
there
were
a
lot
and
I
have
several
friends
that
live
on
her.
She
and
I
asked
them
about
it,
and
one
of
my
friends
said:
oh
yeah
I
saw
two
accidents
this
weekend
and
it
was
around
Christmas
time,
but
you
know
a
lot
of
people
have
said.
N
J
Does
get
worse,
though,
during
those
peak
times
I?
We
do
agree
with
that
right.
It
is
important
to
to
know
that
traffic
signals
don't
take
away
every
accident,
you're,
correct
and
but
what
they
do
is
they
change
the
type
of
accident
that
they
are,
if
you're
seeing
a
lot
of
those
right
angle
and
left
turn
type
of
accidents
from
then
you'll
have
more
rear,
end
accidents
that
you
know
typically
what
happens
so,
but
it
does
help
the
overall
safety
of
the
intersection
and.
N
H
Me,
thank
you.
Just
a
supportive
comment.
I
think
I
see
this
very
similar
to
the
front
yard
turnarounds.
We
have
between
washington
and
oakland
on
her.
She
we
got.
We
have
several
down
there
and
there's
even
some
south
of
oakland
avenue,
so
those
have
worked
out
very
well
and
if
we're
willing
to
help
those
neighbors
out
by
putting
that
concrete,
the
front
yard
it,
it
should
be
helpful
to
them
so
I'm,
very
supportive,
based
on
what
we
have
up
and
down
Russia
already.
B
B
D
I
wonder
if
there's
something
that
we
could
do
to
help
accommodate
a
little
bit
of
additional
parking
in
the
area.
I,
don't
maybe
working
with
the
school
in
the
area
on
the
weekends
I'm
just
trying
to
have
a
little
bit
more
or
a
little
bit
broader
accommodation
for
the
folks.
I
realize
and
I
have
lived
in
apartment
type
dwellings
before
I've
lived
in
in
high-density
neighborhoods,
and
it
is
at
times
difficult,
especially
if
you
have
family
or
company
come
in
holiday
season
is
a
problem.
D
J
Actually
did
talk
about
that
alderman
Lowry,
one
of
the
difficulties
that
we
have
is
proximity
from
a
parking
perspective.
People
like
to
park
right
in
female
they
they
would
like
to
park
it
right
in
front
of
wherever
they're
going.
So
it's
difficult
from
a
standpoint.
We
actually
look.
You
always
look
at
how
far
does
a
person
have
to
go
to
get
you
know
to
where
they
want
to
be
at
so
the
only
places
to
go
would
be
off
side
streets
and,
in
you
know,
site
areas
and
people
still
do
it's
important
to
know.