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September 18, 2017 - Committee of the Whole City Council Meeting
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A
For
service
and
if
the
fund
reserve
in
any
of
these
funds
increases
over
15%
I'd
like
to
see
a
credit
given
back
to
2p
payers,
considering
McLean
County
and
the
town
of
normal,
its
kind
of
streamlining,
financially
I
have
two
suggestions
that
might
be
considered
before
the
budget
process
begins,
and
that
has
to
do
that.
The
IMR
up
accelerated
payments,
the
Supreme
Court,
has
done
the
ruling
fiscal
year,
2016,
which
$400,000
and
fiscal
year
2017
is
two
hundred
thirty,
two
thousand
four
total
to
six
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
and
I.
A
Think
that
you
should
also
look
at
the
employee
health
insurance,
I
understand
about
pooling
and
how
that
works.
But
the
public,
the
general
public,
has
higher
deductible
and
pay
is
much
more
of
a
premium.
I
do
want
to
know
if
the
salary
and
benefits
are
included
in
the
fee
and
I
want
to
know
what
the
fifty
percent
sales
tax
increase
has
been
spent
on.
A
B
C
D
B
B
E
Okay,
so
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
go
off.
The
exhibits
you
have
in
the
packet
and
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
just
kind
of
give
you
a
refresher
on
the
both
the
unfunded
and
funded
parts
of
the
capital
budget.
So,
as
you
can
see
on
the
first
slide,
we
kind
of
have
the
enterprise
and
non
enterprise
and
I
have
the
specific
projects
that
belong
in
each,
but
just
quickly
on
on
the
one
side,
where
you
have
the
enterprise,
that's
funded,
you
see
a
large
portion
of
that
is
water
about
22
million.
E
If
that
was
spent,
that
would
be
their
entire
fund
balance.
That's
been
accumulating
over
all
these
years
and
we
probably
want
to
keep
15%
of
that.
But
it's
a
good
start.
But
again,
their
needs
are
probably
much
greater
in
the
sanitary
sewer
area,
which
you
know
I'll
hold
off
talking
about
because
there's
another
presentation
happening
tonight,
but
there's
some
projects
going
forward,
but
it
certainly
doesn't.
It
doesn't
meet
the
need
of
capital,
maintenance
and
then
unfunded.
E
E
All
right,
so
this
is
what
we're
this
is.
What
we're
talking
about
tonight.
David
wanted
to
kind
of
bring
to
you
some
of
the
non-enterprise
fun
capital
projects
or
or
capital
projects
that
we
don't
have
necessarily
a
line
of
sight
with
a
user
fee
is
probably
a
better
way
to
look
at
it.
So
if
you
look
at
the
5-year
funded
non
enterprise
fund
capital,
you
can
see
the
library
has
I'm.
Sorry,
that's
funded.
E
Well,
IRA
has
the
money
that
they've
been
saving
year
over
year
for
the
expansion
of
the
library
that
bulk
there
would
be
design
costs
under
facilities.
We
have
some
money
budgeted
that
is
mandatory
ad
a
type
items
for
the
Coliseum
parks
is
using
the
creativity,
Center
money
to
do
the
work
at
the
BC
PA
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
money
for
some
fire.
E
What's
not
funded,
which
kind
of
gets
lost
in
the
shuffle,
because
we
talk
about
enterprise
a
lot
and
we
have
streets
kind
of
going
and
I
have
a
slide
on
that
are
some
of
the
other
things
that
are
out
there
and
library.
Obviously
that
would
include
their
estimate
for
an
expansion.
The
Park
and
Rec
would
include
an
aquatic
center
in
leisure,
Lincoln,
leisure
center
facilities
includes
an
operation
center.
These
are
items
that
stuff
is
identified
in
a
five-year
plan.
E
This
is
nothing
that
council
has
decided
that
just
needs
that
are
out
there,
also
what
would
be
in
there
and
I
can't
quite
remember
where
it's
kind
of
a
downtown
some
downtown
dollars.
So
the
question
with
these
guys
are,
if
we
don't
have
a
specific
user
fee
for
for
these
types
of
capital
needs.
Where
do
you
look-
and
you
know
that's
where
you
get
into
your
general
taxation,
its
sales
tax,
its
property
tax,
its
local
local
motor
fuel
tax,
like
our
gas
tax
as
a
homeroom
home
rule
unit
of
government?
E
We
have
a
lot
of
authority
to
fund
projects
through
general
taxation,
and
we
have
experienced
some
of
that
together
and
a
lot
of
that's
been
used
to
earmark
for
some
capital
like
streets,
some
policy
decisions
such
as
funding
mental
health,
and
then
we
also
had
some
deficit
issues
that
we've
been
dealing
with,
so
that's
kind
of
where
those
things
go,
but
where
that
large
tax
increase
went,
but
there
are,
these
needs
are
out
there.
So
we're
just
trying
to
start
the
discussion
on
you
know.
Where
would
we
look
to
possibly
fund
some
of
those.
E
We're
in
the
process
of
updating
numbers,
but
roughly
419,
if
you
include
the
impact
of
the
new
state
fees
on
the
tax,
it's
about
1.6
million,
but
in
FY
18
in
everyway,
1919,
FY
18.
If
you
recall,
we
were
going
to
be
to
the
good
because
they
were
going
to
double
pay
something
in
the
first
year.
So
we're
a
little
bit
ahead
of
things.
Hold
it's
a
little
early
in
the
year,
but
but
for
19
we're
looking
at
about
1.6.
Now,
question
becomes,
as
do
you
is
it
1.6
without
having
any
capital
maintenance
in
it?
E
So
the
only
capital
that's
going
through
and
that
regard
would
be
for
the
the
dedicated
resource
for
roads
so
and
that's
about
four
point:
eight
million
dollars
so
and
there's
a
sales
tax,
it's
from
the
sales
tax,
and
then
you
have
the
local
four
cent
tax.
If
you
remember,
those
two
combined
are
about
four
point:
eight
million
dollars.
So
if
we
don't
have
any
revenue
that
is
once
we
earmark
it,
we
don't
spend
it
on
anything
else,
so
those
funds
are
set
aside
for
streets.
E
That's
why
that's
going
forward
if
we
can
find
any
money
elsewhere,
you
know
we
try
to
squeak
out
some
funds
like
we
did
in
this
year's
budget.
We
have
the
health
insurance
to
get
some
facilities
needs
taking
care
of
over
at
the
arena,
but
that
regular
maintenance
for
safe
facilities
across
the
entire
city.
E
Lots
of
items
are
just
not
in
the
budget
and
that's
kind
of
been
the
way
we've
been
been
budgeting
and
it's
really
a
policy
decision
for
the
council
to
say
you
know.
Maybe
our
deficit
is
bigger.
Maybe
our
deficit
should
have
a
million
or
two
million
dollars
a
year
for
facilities,
or
you
know
if
we
can't
afford
to
pay
cash
for
capital,
maybe
we
should
be
looking
at
some
debt
service
or
a
bond.
You
know
we
don't
the.
F
E
And
if
it's
not,
then
how
can
we
maybe
phase
in
or
jumpstart
or
get
something
going
for
not
just
basic
infrastructure,
but
also
building
the
tax
base,
which
is
critical
to
us
and
many
more
streets
that
we
need
so
and
speaking
of
streets?
That's
a
great
segue
into
this
good
ride
and
I
plan
that
so
what
you
see
there
is
again
that
4.2
million
dollars
of
funded
streets
is
25
million
of
that
is
these
those
earmarked
funds.
E
E
It
is
the
state
motor
fuel
tax
that
we
have
accumulated
over
the
years,
which
is
slated
for
projects
such
as
Fox
Creek
and
Hamilton,
Bundy
Commerce
and
some
street
lights,
and
things
of
that
nature
you
can
see
the
unfunded
is
bigger.
Now
I
was
looking
at
that
today
and
I
realized
at
some
point,
I
put
in
the
unfunded
30
million
dollars
for
streets
2.0.
Now
again,
that's
not
a
council
decision.
That
was
something
that
I
was
just
kind
of
looking
at.
So
we
went
big
and
we
put
in
you
know
a
thirty
million
dollars.
E
Jim
will
probably
want
to
kill
me
I,
don't
know
if
we
can
do
that,
but
it's
a
five-year
plan.
So
if
you
can
do
roughly
eight
million
dollars
a
year,
you
know
you
can
get
there
so
that
streets
so
moving
forward.
These
are
just
some
of
the
projects
that
I've
heard
a
lot
about
as
the
finance
director
and
as
a
citizen,
and
you
know,
I'm
I
think
these
are
all
great
projects.
There's
an
anything
I
can
say
about
any
of
them.
E
And
how
would
we
strategically
use
that
to
further?
Maybe
some
of
these
that
we
really
can't
afford
to
do.
For
instance,
I,
don't
know,
let's
take
one:
let's
go
with
I,
don't
know,
O'neal
pool
is
estimated.
Maybe
you
know
a
Clark
Center
would
be
great
for
quality
of
life.
Kids
would
love
it.
We
have
something
really
positive
going
on
it's
about
ten
million
dollars.
So
question
is:
could
we
cut?
E
Could
we
cut
something
in
order
to
pay
for
that,
but
that's
ten
million
dollars
that
is
literally
bigger
than
the
entire
parks
department
danuel
budget,
and
we
have
so
many
parts
that
we
have
to
maintain.
If
you
think
about
just
the
lawn
mowing
and
the
lining
and
the
seating-
and
you
know
the
tree
trimming
and
everything
that
they
do
not
to
mention
the
programs
they
provide
so
to
just
to
put
it
in
context,
could
we
cut
something
out
of
there
in
cash
would
be
very
difficult
to
do
that?
Could
we
issue
a
bond?
E
Yes,
we
could
issue
a
bond,
but
if
you
look
at
all
these
projects,
you
know
that
that's
too
much
debt,
but
just
I,
wanted
to
leave
you
with
the
visual,
and
you
know
how
do
we
start
this
conversation
of
things
that
don't
have
the
obvious
user
fee?
So
two
of
our
biggest
tax
in
this
city
is
property
tax.
E
As
you
know,
the
city
hasn't
raised
its
property
tax
rate
and
over
six
years
you
can
see
our
rates
there
in
comparison
to
some
of
our
neighbors,
both
in
total
overlapping
rates
and
the
city
directories
our
sales
tax.
You
can
see
kind
of
the
how
we
fall
in
with
our
peers.
So
when
I
start
looking
at
these
things,
that's
the
first
question:
I
ask:
if
how
do
we
fall
in
with
our
peers?
E
You
don't
want
to
price
yourself
out
of
the
market,
certainly
we're
always
thinking
of
the
citizen,
but
as
you
know
how
about
our
city's
credit
rating,
you
know
where
do
we
fall
in?
Is
there
any
room,
barring
any
strategic,
massive
elimination
of
a
department-
or
you
know,
I,
just
I,
think
it's
always
that
hybrid
approach.
E
This
is
kind
of
the
funding
out
again
that
you're
asking
about
Karen,
and
you
know
just
to
restate.
You
know
that
1.5
is
really
getting
us
to
the
same
budget.
We
have
right
now
today,
where
we've
I
think
we've
come
to
you
with
a
couple
of
budget
amendments
already,
so
let's
pretend
the
18
budget.
You
know
we
we
balanced
it.
So
you
know.
Do
we
want
to
start
putting
placeholders
in
there
for
facilities.
E
Even
if
it's
small,
you
know
begin
to
start
building
those
those
dollars
in
there
and
18,
we
actually
absorbed
1
million
dollars
in
debt
service
savings.
So
you
know
when
we
were
talking
about
before
using
that
savings.
If
you
kept
debt
service
up
six
million
dollars
a
year,
always
and
then
backfilled
with
debt
to
use
that
savings
to
issue
other
bombs
because
of
the
structural
deficit,
we're
kind
of
absorbing
it
before
you
guys
ever
get
a
chance
to
really
use
it.
So
that
would
be
a
strategic
question.
E
F
E
D
E
F
B
E
I
think
we
really
need
you
guys
to
prioritize
that,
for
us,
people
are
very
passionate
about
all
their
areas,
and
you
know
if
you
ask
them
hey
what
could
you
cut
out?
What
what
do
you
need
in
the
next
five
years
and
then
hey
go
back
and
refine
that
I
think
they
need
you
to
help
us
with
that,
because
you
know
yeah.
G
You
so
I
might
have
missed
it,
but
I
haven't
seen
an
update,
yet
where
we
are,
with
our
funding
of
our
police
and
fire
pensions.
I
know
that
we
were
on
an
accelerated
payment
schedule
to
try
to
get
ahead
of
all
those
payments.
Are
we
still
on
track,
as
that
included
in
all
these
numbers,
or
I
mean
we're
still
good
there
that
that's
getting
taken
care
of?
Yes,.
E
E
B
I
D
I
Task
force
and
having
having
to
deal
with
all
of
that-
and
you
know
we
go
to
the
word
map-
we
see
a
lot
of
things,
but
that
residents
want.
We
did
a
you
know
the
the
community
development
plan.
We
had
180
thousand
people
involved
in
that
to
bring
it
on
Bloomington
I
mean
those
are
the
sorts
of
things
that
people
are
looking
for
and
they're
they're
kind
of
looking
to
us
to
make
that
happen.
I
But
when
you
see
graphs
like
this
numbers,
like
that,
you
know
things
have
to
go,
get
pushed
by
the
wayside,
so
I
guess
mine's
more
common
for
my
colleagues
is
that
you
know
I
remember
when
we
had
that
conversation
with
the
budget
task
force.
There
was
also
the
notion
that
we
would
have
a
circle
back
and
start
talking
about
some
cuts
and
what
we
were
not
going
to
be
in
the
business
of
and
I.
I
I
It's
just
pieces
of
the
puzzle
and
I
would
almost
prefer
like
when
we
do
the
full
vote
in
March
and
we'll
be
seeing
some
more
of
the
budget
counter,
looking
forward
that
it
includes
all
of
those
things
at
once,
because
it's
very
hard
for
me
to
say:
let's
do
it,
the
increase
on
stormwater
or
sewers,
but
yet
I
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
necessarily
impact
this
in
the
backend.
So
much
talk
about
priorities,
I.
I
Probably
some
debt
service,
probably
some
fee
increases,
but
I
can't
speak
to
what
that
looks
like
specifically
until
we
see
the
whole
package
at
once,
and
if
we
start
it
now,
we
have,
you
know
retreat
between
now
and
then
a
number
of
committee
of
the
holes.
We
got
a
lot
of
the
backend
work
done
with
the
capital
improvement
project
and
plan.
I
I
think
that
we
can
actually
do
a
lot
of
really
good
work
that
points
these
things
out
can
be
strategic
and
then
make
a
good
decision
for
five
years
down
the
road
and
then
I'm
way
more
comfortable,
saying
to
residents
and
explain
to
them.
Okay,
your
fee
increase
is
here,
but
here's
what
happens
in
the
back
end
and
you
can
get
that
wave
pool,
I,
don't
even
pole
or
whatever.
That
might
be
so
completely.
B
E
Question
she
has
such
a
great
question,
bind
everybody
where
that
money
is
going
so
of
the
1%
that
we
adopted
a
quarter
point
went
directly
to
street
resurfacing
program.
A
quarter
point
went
to
the
county
for
the
expansion
of
the
jail
for
the
Mental
Health
Program,
and
then
the
50%
that
was
left
went
into
the
general
fund
and
that's
what
we
tried
in
year,
one
to
fund
some
capital
projects,
some
facilities,
but
essentially
it
went
into
operations,
okay
and
the
Jenna
fun.
But
there
was
a
seven
million
seven
point:
four
million
dollar
deficit.
E
E
Then,
okay,
so
of
the
1%
sales
tax,
a
quarter
point
went
to
strictly
the
streets
resurfacing
program.
Another
quarter
point
went
to
the
jail
expansion
for
mental
health
and
then
the
50%
that
was
left
went
into
the
general
fund
to
help
with
the
death.
Just
to
caveat
that,
though,
cuts
were
made
that
year
and
there
was
a
7.5
million
dollar
deficit,
so
it
didn't
all
just
kind
of
flow.
In
you
know
there
was
a
capital
equipment
that
went
forward.
There
was
capital
projects
when
went
forward
in
year,
1
and.
B
B
E
The
first,
the
first
trip
is:
we
have
a
half
a
million
dollar
hit
that
goes
to
State
for
processing,
not
so
that's
included
in
the
FY
19
estimate,
so
we
now
pay
the
state
now
withholds
about
a
half
a
million
a
year.
In
addition
to
that
I'm
watching
the
commodities
market.
You
know
it's
not
over
until
it's
over,
but
you
know
we
should
use
caution
with
with
those
revenues.
E
So
many
of
our
revenues
are
a
really
consumer,
behavior
based
and,
as
you
know,
we
don't
receive
anything
really
for
internet
for
people
shopping
online
that
that's
a
large
concern
going
forward.
My
understanding
is
still
only
20%
of
all.
Sales
nationally
are
online,
which
seems
really
low
to
me,
but
I
feel
like
I,
do
so
much
online,
but
that
was
something
that
was
brought
up
recently
and
that
kind
of
surprised
me,
but
on
top
of
that
you've
got
commodities
market.
It's
like
investing
in
the
stock
market
almost
if
flour
goes
down.
E
Everything
that
you
make
with.
Flour
is
affected
by
that.
If
dairy
is
down,
if
beef
and
poultry
are
down,
so
almost
every
tax
we
have
is
a
portfolio
of
other
things
like
it's.
You
know
a
stock
or
other
portfolio,
even
the
property
tax.
We
have
all
different
types
of
properties,
it's
the
same
type
of
thing.
If
a
certain
segment
goes
bad
and
you
know
it's
more
rock
solid,
the
property
tax,
but
thank.
E
Occasion
and
I
appreciate
that
and
if
I
could
just
comment,
Scott
David
has
asked
that
we
do
kind
of
a
full
pre
budget
discussion
with
you,
I
think
that
is
slated
for
the
committee
of
the
whole
in
October,
at
least
at
this
point,
which
I
think
is
a
great
idea
before
your
retreat
is
before
the
the
tax
levy
and
other
things
so
I
hope
that's
helpful.
Thank
you
and.
G
Can
I
add
something
real
quick?
Yes,
just
regarding
the
internet
thing
I
just
read
an
article
this
afternoon
that
there
still
there's
two
bills
regarding
internet
sales
that
are
going
on
right
now.
One
is
called
the
fairness
and
the
marketplace
Act
and
that's
a
bro
collecting
sales
tax
from
individual
municipalities,
and
it's
been
sitting
out
there
for
like
three
years
and
hasn't
been
voted
on.
G
It
there's
actually
a
new
bill,
though
in
the
house
right
now
that
is
designed
to
block
the
collection
of
any
sales
taxes
from
anywhere
where
there's
not
where
you
don't
have
a
physical
brick-and-mortar
location.
So
it's
the
opposite.
Bill
has
actually
been
introduced
into
the
house,
so
just
as
an
update,
I
just
read
it
on
earlier
this
afternoon.
So
that's
the
exact
of
opposite
of
what
we
need
I
think,
but
thankfully.
E
Short
plug
Karen
people
are
required
to
on
their
taxes,
disclose
what
they
have
purchased
on
the
internet
and
in
palos
taxes,
and
you
know
those
would
would
come
to
the
city,
so
I
think
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
that,
to
be
honest,
it's
a
fairly
new
phenomenon
and
even
if
you
estimate
we
would
love
to
have
it.
Thank
you.
B
J
B
K
Added
one
thing:
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
trying
to
do
is
get
some
kind
of
a
consensus
here
if
we
could
tonight
so
that
we
would
know
what
we
would
put
on
the
the
agenda
for
next
time
now,
if
possible,
we
would
just
put
two
two
options
on
there
for
the
council
to
choose.
But
if
you
can't
decide
tonight,
we'll
know
how
to
ward
it
for
the
next
meeting.
K
We
have
two
options
here
and
we'll
put
one
of
them
on
the
on
the
agenda
for
you,
the
next
time
or
if
you
would
prefer
we'll
just
put
two
of
them
on.
If
you
have
one
that
you'd
like
us
to
put
on,
then
you
can
vote
that
one
up
or
down
and
we'll
put
two
of
them
on
the
agenda
next
time,
and
you
can
decide
at
that
time
which
one
you
might
want,
or
neither
one
but.
B
J
You
City
Council,
so
with
this
ongoing
conversation,
we've
had
going
for
about
five
years,
so
we
have
been
having
a
long
dialogue
about
sewers.
This
is
a
we
again
there.
I
won't
even
really
have
a
presentation
for
you
tonight
what
we
wanted
to
do.
We've
we've
we've
presented
this
to
death,
so
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
really
have
the
modified
option
that
was
requested
last
time.
So
again,
what
we've
talked
about
is
the
council
passed
two
years
ago
the
sewer
master
plan
with
it
recommended
funding
levels.
J
So
many
so
many
it's
a
public
health
issue.
What
we're
talking
to
you
tonight
about
is
a
public
health
issue
so
up
on
the
screen
and
those
for
those
that
have
this
sheet
in
front
of
you.
The
two
options
that
we're
discussing
are
a
five-year
rollout
of
11.6
percent
a
year
for
our
sanitary
sewer
rates
and
for
our
stormwater
rates
and
8.2
percent
increase
over
five
years.
J
That
was
what
was
presented
to
you
last
Monday
night
tonight
we
wanted
to
present
you
a
modified
rate
that
would
allow
for
year
one
for
those
rates
to
be
put
into
place,
and
then
we
would
have
again
that
same
ongoing
3%
moving
forward.
The
reason
why
we
would
look
at
an
option
with
a
more
aggressive
rate
increase
is
the
fact
that
there's
a
lot
of
need
out
there.
This
isn't
this
isn't
a
problem
that
is
that
is
you
know
it
can
wait.
J
There's
a
lot
of
people
that
right
now
today
have
have
a
lot
of
have
a
lot
of
need,
and
by
waiting,
it's
important
for
me
to
just
as
a
staff
convey
to
you
that,
even
if
you
do
the
immediate
rollout,
it
is
not
as
if
you're
one
you
have
all
of
the
projects
done,
that
the
funding
has
to
build
up.
You
have
to
have
the
staffing
available
to
be
able
to
provide
those
improvements,
and
so
what
we've
said
is
the
last
time
we
rolled
this
out
to
you.
J
We
said
in
that
six
to
eight
year
time
frame,
if
you
did
over
a
five
years
to
allow
the
rates
to
start
hitting
that
tipping
point.
We
can
start
truly
seeing
a
difference
in
this
community.
If
we
do
that,
with
that
immediate
rate
increase,
we
will
start
to
see
more
of
those
changes
in
the
three
to
four
year
time
frame.
So
again,
it's
there's
a
tolerance
we
understand,
but
for
the
immediate
rate
increase
for
stormwater,
it
would
be
a
30
percent.
First
year
rate
increase
for
the
sanitary
sewer.
J
It
would
be
a
fifty
percent
rate
increase
and
then
that
three
percent
after
that
again
is
the
communities
can
approach
this
differently.
The
how
normal
did
something
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
because
they
were
trying
to
get
ahead
of
that
they
wanted
to
have
their.
There
are
sewers
televised
in
that
first,
five
years.
That's
our
goal
as
well
either
way,
but
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
I
thought.
I
would
actually
just
take
an
opportunity
to
show
you
a
video
that
that
I
don't
know
that
the
council
has
seen
before
this.
J
It
is
just
so
important
to
stress
that
this
is
a
public
health
issue
we
have
in
basements
right
now,
I
mean
this
is
on
a
combined
tour.
This
is
a
video
sent
to
us
from
the
citizen.
I
wanted
to
read
you
some
of
the
different
comments
that
we
received
from
our
citizens.
This
and
I
will
provide
names
or
addresses,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
you
to
hear
that.
There's
a
lot
of
people
out
there.
J
One
says
our
biggest
concern
is
the
odor
of
sewer
gas
that
significantly
permeates
whether
there
is
any
backup
that
happens
monthly
and
it's
very
strong
and
noxious
smell,
and
then
other
says
this
is
a
huge
problem
for
us.
Our
basements
flooded
five
times
since
2003
when
we
purchased
the
home
its
cost
us
thousands
of
dollars.
The
previous
owners
experience
was
similar.
Others
talked
about,
we
stagnant
standing,
water,
that's
impede
the
massive
amount
of
cattails.
There
are
areas
been
warned
of
mosquito
activity
and
they're
concerned
about
West
Nile
virus.
J
Another
one's
talked
about
the
manhole
right
out
in
front
of
their
house
that
have
sewer,
that's
poured
out
of
it.
That's
it
there's
so
much
water
backed
up
between
manholes,
it
is
lifted
up
and
off
and
into
the
street,
and
so
they're
just
asking
for
additional
help.
Others
talk
about
when
we
have
heavy
rains
there,
the
Lowe's
Menards
best
buy
they.
Well,
they
say
the
best
buy,
doesn't
sell,
sump
pumps,
but
well
they
have
some
parade.
They
listed
that
and
they're
sell
some
pumps
they
sell
out.
J
This
is
a
citywide
issue,
put
tax
money
towards
addressing
this.
This
issue.
The
reason
I
wanted
to
say
this
to
you
is
I
know
we'll
hear
from
a
lot
of
folks
about
the
negative
impacts
of
raising
fees.
It's
important
as
a
council
to
know.
We've
done
citywide
surveys
and
every
ward
in
this
community
is
affected.
Whenever
we
looked
at
that
it
is,
it
is
a
major
impact
for
our
community,
just
as
a
reminder
that
we
had
looked
at.
J
We
had
done
an
overall
city
wide
survey
and
the
dots
on
this
were
the
people
that
were
concerned
about
flooding
sue
sanitary
storm.
All
of
that
that's
it
is,
it
isn't
a
downtown
issue:
it's
not
a
near
East
Side
near
West
Side.
This
is
a
citywide
issue,
so
we're
just
tonight
I'm
asking
for
your
continued
dialogue
and
support
for
us
to
move
forward
and
start
fixing
this
problem.
B
H
J
Is
not
in
the
first
five
years,
but
over
the
20-year
period
it
is
and-
and
we
think
that's
critical
we've
talked
about
before
that
it
is
not
all
in
one
year.
We
can't
afford
that,
but
you
have
to
ramp
up
that
hybrid
model
of
both.
You
know
additional
contracting
and
additional
staff
even
contracting
takes
effort
from
an
internal
perspective.
So
it's
unrealistic
for
us
to
think.
You
can't
includes
that
last
presentation
we
gave
you
last
week
showed
and
laid
that
out.
Okay,.
B
I
understand
about
a
personal
opinion
here.
I
certainly
understand
about
the
need
to
add
people
to
something,
particularly
the
more
aggressive
we
are,
but
I
also
have
concerns
about
us,
adding
people
to
our
payroll
and
our
pensions
and
I
wonder
if
this
is
not
an
opportunity
for
us
to
change
our
philosophy
a
little
bit
about
how
we
do
some
of
this
work
as.
B
L
The
Consul
is
all
knowing
that
this
this
this
was
on
its
way
right.
We
knew
that
when
the
sales
tax
increase
was
was
passed
and,
and
we've
known
that
for
the
last
couple
of
years
to
Scott's
point,
there
was
no
serious
council
conversation
about
about
reducing
expenses.
So
so
now
that's
all
coming
coming
to
critical
mass
now.
L
So
I
think
that's
a
really
good
conversation
that
quite
honestly,
we
could
have
been
having
we
didn't,
but
but
now
now
the
times
upon
us
right,
it's
going
to
have
to
be
part
of
this.
Just
this
budget
cycle
or
won't
be
any
of
this
again
that
I've
seen
recently
where
we
have
a
desire
to
do
that.
But
but
somehow
then
we
never
do
that.
And
then
we
get
to
the
point
well.
Well,
we
just
have
to
do
something.
L
We
just
have
to
pass
this
budget
and-
and
that's
that's
just
something
that
that's
a
concept
of
philosophy
about
you
know.
I
know
I
won't
be
able
to
buy
into
this
year.
So
hopefully
we
can,
as
I
think
Karen
suggested
at
others.
We
have
enough
time
to
do
this
in
an
in
a
systematic
manner.
Let's
make
sure
we
have
the
will
to
do
it.
We.
N
J
But
you
know
you
have
to
compartmentalize
this
there's
there's
needs
and
wants
in
the
general
fund,
there's
needs
and
once
in
the
water
from
there's
needs
and
wants,
and
the
different
types
of
funding
and
so
from
a
prioritization
standpoint,
I
I
would
ask
again
I
understand
they
all
come
to
your
bill.
You
all
have
to
pay
that
on
your
water
bill,
but
in
the
end
those
should
be
as
I
think
Donna,
bol
and
even
our
citizen
pointed
out.
J
You
know
there
was
one
point
when
money
was
taken,
I
believe
was
for
resurfacing
as
I
recall
and
it
was
paid
back,
but
it
was
one
of
those
issues
that
that
you
know
it's
not
supposed
to
happen
that
took
council
action.
Enterprise
funds
are
supposed
to
go
where
they're
at,
and
so
that's
why
again,
we
just
ask
for
your
consideration
now
to
take
action,
because
it's
just
an
immediate,
it's
an
immediate
need.
It.
N
I
think
we
have
in
at
least
a
couple
for
three
years
now
that
I've
been
on
council.
We
have
been
more
tactical,
and
you
know
just
yeah,
okay,
it
I'm
getting
a
sense
on
the
council
now
that
we
have
a
will
to
be
more
more
strategic
and
look
at
the
bigger
picture,
and
so
part
of
me
says
the
yeah.
Let's
go
forward
with
this,
because
we
have
friends
in
the
far
northwest
suburbs
of
Chicago
who
had
the
toilet
running
over
like
this.
N
After
a
big
rain
and
our
you
know
our
anyway,
it's
sarah
offered
to
come
down
and
be
a
testimonial
when
we
got
to
this
point
that
we
need
to
do
something.
You
know
not
to
wait
that,
based
on
what
happened
in
her
neighborhood,
the
whole
neighborhood
was
under
had
flooded
basements
and
it
wasn't
wasn't
a
pretty
thing.
So
part
of
me
wants
to
say
yeah.
N
B
J
That
is
true
unless
council
decided
in
the
past
rate,
increases
can
happen
on
January
1st
other
times
as
well.
So
if,
as
a
council,
you
saw
the
need
as
well
for
an
immediate
action
that
can
happen,
December
1st
January,
1st
yeah,
that
is,
that
is
your
decision
to
make.
We
were
trying
to
start
that
at
a
new
fiscal
year,
but
I
also
would
like
to
point
out
some
comparable
data.
J
There
was
a
seventy
nine
communities
in
the
state
of
Illinois
that
were
reached
out
to
for
survey
data
Bloomington
out
of,
and
you
can
see
where
my
cursor
is
at
out
of
four
sewer
rates
for
monthly
sewer
charges.
We
were
78
of
79,
then
one
being
the
most
expensive,
so
we
were
the
second
cheapest
for
our
rates
for
sewers,
and
so
again
that
is,
you
know
you
can
see.
J
There
are
all
the
different
communities
in
in
here
that
were
sent
this
data,
but
I
think
it's
important
and
again
normal
was
right
right
by
us
before
they
passed
their
sewer
rate.
We
were
78,
they
were
77,
and
so
the
two
of
us
together
had
lower
sewer
rates.
We
are
just
saying
that
comparable
to
other
communities
and
that's
not
even
fair,
you
know
you
have
to
deal
with
our
own
issues,
but
we
have
older
sewers.
I
Then
thank
you
and
thank
you
again.
My
question
we've
kind
of
danced
around
it
is
this
would
take
effect
if
we
were
to
pass
something
whether
we
do
it
in
October,
December
or
even
March
of
next
year
would
take
effect
in
unmade.
The
may
billing
cycle
is
that
correct.
Currently,
yes,
I
said
I
mean
I'm,
not
denying
any
of
the
things
that
you've
showed
us,
but
I'm.
I
So
this
is
why
I'm
advocating
for
if
we
do
it,
let's
just
do
it
looking
at
the
calendar
now
as
part
of
the
budget
adoption
that
may,
because
it
doesn't
impact
staff
at
all,
we
wouldn't
be
just
be
sitting
doing.
Nothing
wouldn't
be
collecting
that
revenue
at
between
now,
whenever
that
ordinance
to
pass
through
May.
So
whether
we
do
it
in
March
or
we
do
it
now
to
me,
it's
the
same
thing
I'd
rather
do
it.
It's
part
of
a
larger
conversation
with
the
budget
process.
F
Okay,
I'll
make
sure
I
understand
it.
This
is
an
enterprise
fund.
You
said
that
a
couple
times,
so
is
it
correct,
though,
that
no
matter
what
we
do
with
the
general
fund
or
any
cuts
or
changes
there?
Those
those
decisions
will
have
zero
impact
on
this
fund
and
our
ability
to
begin
chipping
away
at
our
sewer
stormwater
needs.
Is
that
correct,
absolutely.
F
Well,
yes,
this
is
yeah
I
mean
from
a
financial
point
of
view.
This
is
a
compartmentalized
decision
and
I'm.
Looking
back
at
my
notes
and
from
the
meeting
minutes,
we
discussed
this
on
December
14
2015
at
a
committee
of
the
whole
and
at
that
committee
the
whole
nearly
two
years
ago,
we
said
we
want
to
move
forward
on
increasing
sewer,
stormwater
fees
and
staff
said:
okay,
we'll
bring
you
something
back
next
week
and
that
didn't
happen
and
I.
Don't
remember
why
it
didn't
happen.
It's
not
staffs
fault,
but
I
suspect.
F
It
was
similar
to
this
our
station
today,
where
we
said
well,
we
need
more
time
we
want
to
contemplate
it
more.
We
want
to
look
at
the
bigger
picture,
and
here
we
are
almost
two
years
later.
Our
problems
have
not
gone
away
and
this
decision
will
not
get
any
easier
by
delaying
it.
I
think
a
to
me.
The
need
is
so
apparent,
and
this
decision
it
because
it
is
so
compartmentalized
I
think
we
need
to
address
it
as
soon
as
possible
and
then
move
on
to
the
other
pressing
issues
that
we
have
to
deal
with.
F
G
I
actually
would
agree
with
Amelie
on
this
one.
You
know
the
South
Hill
neighborhood
in
particular,
back
in
Oak
Street
I,
think
that
the
the
story
of
the
the
manhole
cover
getting
lifted
up
and
moved
out
of
the
way
is
from
Oak
Street
back
in
there
there's
some
serious
areas
back
in
there,
where
you
know,
we've
got
a
hundred
and
twenty
year
old
sewer
system
or
over
and
those
people,
like
you
said
it's
the
foundation
of
everything
else
we're
going
to
talk
about.
G
G
I,
don't
know
that
if
I'm
from
a
foundational
level,
it's
going
to
really
are
I'm
gonna
be
willing
to
push
this
off
to
talk
about
other
things
that
are
even
capital
improvements,
because
this
is
you
know,
everything
is
predicated
on
the
sewer
system,
so
I
would
rather
I
would
rather
move
forward
on
this.
Sooner
than
wait
until
April
and
just
get
this
often
to
plate
and
move
on
to
the
next
thing,
okay,
thanks.
B
M
M
M
B
L
Are
some
good
comments
that
are
being
made
but
again
I'll
go
back
to
to
what
I
said
before
it?
It's
about
the
total
ask
that
we're
gonna
ask
people
to
increase
money
coming
out
of
their
pocket
and
so
to
say
and
again,
Jamie
makes
a
good
point
and
I
know
this
is
something
important
to
him.
This
is
this
foundational
aspect,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
remember
that
only
in
government
do
we
compartmentalize,
when
I
budget
at
home,
I
have
to
look
at
the
total
budget.
L
Sorry
I've
been
here
long
enough
to
know
that
it's
always
easier
to
vote
to
spend
money
now
and
promise
to
cut
cut
expenses
later.
Only
somehow
we
never
seem
to
get
around
to
cutting
those
fences
and,
and
so
I
think
we
ought
to
be
cautious
as
we
proceed
down
that,
because
this
is
not
simply
a
compartmentalized
project
or
an
expense.
This
is
part
of
a
larger
total
aggregated
cost
that
the
taxpayers
will
have
to
to
get
more
of
their
their
money
to
the
government
to
cover.
B
D
H
I
recognize
that
the
issues
are
very
important
and
I
think
you
know
any
other
time.
I
would
be
for
a
very
aggressive
plan,
you
know
and
to
fix
it
next
year,
but
you
know
at
the
same
time
when
it's
other
people's
money,
I'm,
always
very
cautious
about
that.
I
I
do
remember
that
we
when
we
talked
about
pension
funding,
we
we
talked
about
this
concept
of
intergenerational
equity.
H
To
make
sure
that
you
know
on
you
know
we
don't
charge
some
people
more
on
the
front
end
than
those
you
know
we
would
charge
later
down
the
line
twenty
years
later
and
and
that's
what
makes
me
a
little
bit,
hesitant
and
I
know
this.
Is
it's
a
little
different?
You
know
sewers,
it's
public,
health
and
and
and
all
of
that,
but
this
it
makes
me
a
little
bit.
H
Hesitant
I
would
want
a
more
you
know,
measured
approach,
you
know,
but
also
you
know,
trust
your
expertise,
because
if
you
brought
this
measured
approach,
you
know
halfway,
but
maybe
not
halfway,
but
a
measured
approach.
You
you
probably
know
that
it
can
still
be
done
without
jeopardy.
People's
public
health
I
also.
H
Lost
my
train
of
long
weekend,
so
it's
not
gonna
come
back
so,
but
that's
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
thinking
of
at
this
moment
is
that
I
I
only
now
remembered
and
kind
of
going
back
to
what
alderman
sage
was
saying.
I'm,
also
considering
the
fact
that
you
know
we're
not
the
only
body,
that's
going
to
you
know,
increase
fees
or
you
know
taxes
or
anything
like
that.
H
There
are
others,
you
know
so
in
terms
of
looking
at
to
totality
of
people's
you
know:
property
tax,
bill,
sales,
taxes
and
and
other
fees
you
know,
I
always
keep
that
into
consideration.
Is
that
at
the
end
of
the
month
and
when
people
have
all
their
bills
that
they're
having
to
face
I
I
want
to
be
sure
that
people
feel
like
they
can
meet
all
their
obligations.
You
know
without
too
much
frustration,
so
those
are
the
the
thoughts
that
are
going
through
my
mind
at
this
time.
B
C
Thank
you,
Jim
very
much
for
your
presentation
and
for
going
back
and
crunching
these
numbers
again.
You
know
I.
Think
we've
talked
here
about
the
fact
that
this
involves
public
health
as
well
as
our
infrastructure.
Those
are
two
top
priorities
for
me.
I
hear
I,
hear
about
that
from
my
constituents
a
great
deal,
and
for
that
reason,
as
top
priorities,
I
don't
really
see
this
as
something
that
we
bargain
away
later,
especially
when
I
look
at
these
numbers
on
the
typical
residential
bill
will
go
up
six
dollars
a
month.
C
Jamie's
comments
about
getting
the
streets
done,
but
first
you
have
to
take
care
of
what's
underneath
and
for
that
reason
I
would
favor
X
the
next
day's
approach
here.
Making
this
a
priority
and
saying
that
you
know
yes,
this
is
a
priority
in
our
community
for
this
bang
for
the
buck.
We
can
get
this
done
and
then
you
know
other
things
may
have
to
be
traded
off,
but
we
know
that
this
was
an
important
priority
and
we
took
care
of
it.
So
thank
you
so.
B
I
think
Steve.
What
you're
looking
for
is
some
direction
from
us
about
whether
we
should
bring
something
back
to
vote
on
next
week
and
so
I
think
we
ought
to
do
a
like
a
straw
poll
here
and
also,
if,
if
we
want
to
vote
on
it
next
week,
are
we
looking
at
an
immediate
increase
or
a
more
extended
or
a
lower
increase
over
more
time?
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
K
That's
essentially
right
and
what
we've
been
talking
about,
I
think
alderman
Fergus
captured
it
very
well.
We've
been
looking
at
this
for
a
couple
of
years
now
and
the
problem
keeps
getting
worse
and
we
would
like
to
know
at
what
time
the
council
would
like
us
to
bring
this
back
to
you
on
one
of
these
option
or
the
other,
and
of
course
we
we
think
sooner
would
be
better
than
later.
A.
D
J
B
B
J
B
K
L
You
Jim
Karen,
oh
yes,
may
I
ask
a
question:
I
raised
a
point,
I
think
in
some
of
your
comments
about
this
idea
of
whether
or
not
that
these
these
would
be
all
new
hires
become
new
city
employees
or
whether
or
not
we
might
consider
contracting
some
of
the
engineering
work
that
type
of
stuff
I'm,
not
sure
I
heard,
maybe
that
delineation
or
within
this
idea
that
it
would
be
voted
on
next
week.
I
mean
you're.
Right
is
the
way
it
stands
now.
L
G
J
Currently
is
built
in
year,
one
toward
the
end
once
the
funding
is
built
up
so
the
weekend.
Without
that
you
can't
implement
some
of
the
projects
right
away.
So
that's
it
was
showing
up
on
the
screen.
Last
week,
as
kind
of
some
of
you,
you
was
tier.
It
was
phased
in
from
a
staffing
perspective.
It
wasn't
everybody
in
year,
one
for
example,
but
it's
phased
in
okay,
cynical.
B
Okay,
truth
Voltaire
and
cynical
Karen,
okay,
we're
going
to
then
move
to
the
last
item
in
our
agenda
and
we
have
a
budget
calendar
in
front
of
us
and
talking
about
when
we
make
some
of
these
critical
decisions.
I
think
alderman
Burgas
had
pointed
out.
We
haven't
prioritized
a
lot
of
our
capital
improvement,
wish
list
and
so
Keith.
Could
you
lead
us
through
a
or
patty
win
and
or
patty
Lynn
lead
us
through
a
conversation
on
this
I.
E
E
So
I
would
just
leave
that
with
you.
I
know
that
the
questions
out
there,
whether
we
want
to
have
a
separate
track
for
CIP
or
we
want
to.
We
can
include
that
in
the
normal
calendar
that
you
have
before
you
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there,
the
dates
for
your
consideration
and
if
you
have
any
preference
of
what
you
might
like
to
see
modified
it,
we
would
love
to
hear
that.
Could.
E
City
manager,
Hales
envisioned
very
much
what
you
were
talking
about
tonight:
kind
of
just
going
over
the
major
parts
of
the
budget
kind
of
telling
filling
you
in
on
the
condition
of
all
parts
of
the
budget.
So
you
can
kind
of
look
at
that
holistically
and
then
have
a
conversation.
Make
sure
everybody
has
the
facts
before
you
guys
start
to
go
to
your
full
retreat
and
potentially
before
we
with
enough
time
before
the
tax
levy
shows.
You
want
to
ask
act
on
that.
Excuse
me
I'm.
Sorry,.
N
E
E
E
Will
we
always
try
actually
for
the
second
meeting
in
February
in
February?
Excuse
me,
but
something
something
usually
happens
in
the
department,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
when
we
do
get
to
the
proposed
budget.
It's
correct.
It
has
all
the
right
data
in
it.
That's
always
our
goal.
I
did
put
that
on
there
to
be
conservative
that
we
would
hit
the
second
meeting,
but
it
we
can
certainly
have
you
know
we
can
get
you.
E
N
E
Actually
thought
the
five-year
projection
that
we
were
just
talking
about
each
year.
We
actually
do
a
five-year
budget,
that's
why
it
takes
so
long,
a
five-year
line-item
budget.
So,
yes,
we
can
get
you
those
assumptions,
early
I'm
in
the
process
of
updating
the
five-year
right
now
and
in
the
general
fund
and
then
I
move
to
the
other
funds.
So
hopefully
because
we
know
that
if
our
enterprise
funds
have
the
ability
to
impact
our
general
fund,
so
I'll
be
working
on
that
I
may
may
have
it
for
October
October
16th
meeting.
M
E
N
B
I
I
So
my
suggestion
would
be
that
that
we
carve
out,
maybe
every
committee,
the
whole
half
an
hour
and
I
would,
when
I
say,
be
strategic
about
the
budget.
That
means
that
we
talk
about
the
budget
I've
seen
Melissa
Hans
priority-based,
budgeting
worksheets.
You
know
we
just
pick
a
topic,
maybe
but
every
committee
the
whole
a
half
an
hour.
That's
what
we're
talking
about
so
then,
when
the
time
comes
that
we
actually
come
to
vote,
you
know,
I,
don't
want
to
be
one
of
those.
I
The
aldermen
that
says
well,
I,
didn't
know
about
this
or
I
wasn't
aware.
I
mean
600
pages
is
a
lot
to
digest,
not
only
for
us,
but
also
the
public
and
I
know
that
that
might
be
a
time
that
might
be
very
a
big
time
burden
for
staff,
but
the
sooner
we
get
it
the
better.
For
some
reason,
I
have
this
feeling
that
this
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
tougher
budget
cycles
that
we've
worked
through
and
I'd
rather
have
it.
I
This
be
the
tougher
budget
cycle
where
we're
not
in
a
structural
deficit,
then,
if
we
kick
the
can
another
year
and
then
we
really
got
ourselves
a
major
problem,
so
my
suggestion
would
be
to
carve
out
time
there's
a
fifth
Monday
in
January.
Maybe
we
put
that
as
just
a
work
session
devoted
to
the
budget,
because
what
I
want
to
hear
from
this
group
is
clear
direction.
In
years
past
I've
heard
some
of
my
colleagues
say:
staff
make
cuts,
but
with
no
explanation
on
what
that
is,
we're.
B
I
I,
don't
want
to
hear
that
this
year,
but
I
also,
you
know,
want
to
challenge
us
that
we
don't
come
up
with.
You
know
last-minute
questions
and
no
you've
been
so
great
over
the
years
and
answering
those
you
know,
eleventh-hour
questions,
but
let's
try
to
avoid
that
situation.
So
we
can
get
in
front
of
all
that.
So
basically
it's
a
when
we
adopt
the
budget,
hopefully
in
early
April,
that
it's
a
no
fireworks
type
approach,
because
we've
talked
about
it
at
length.
Much
like
you
saw
tonight,
I've
really
enjoyed
the
conversation
that
we
had
here.
I
We've
talked
about
the
sewer
rates,
fees,
we're
talking
a
philosophical
increase
and
how
we
go
about
it
as
opposed
to
kind
of
the
what
so
I'm
appreciative.
But
that's
my
suggestion.
You
know
we
have
these
committee.
The
whole
is
designed
for
these
sorts
of
things
to
talk
about
this
stuff.
That
gives
you
guys
the
ability
to
ask
us
for
feedback
and
then
for
us
to
provide
it
and
if
alderman
don't
weigh
in
and
you
don't
weigh
in
so
my
doctor.
Thank.
B
I
B
Think,
layered
into
that,
we
need
to
figure
out
a
process
for
prioritizing
the
capital
projects
and
to
do
that
sooner
rather
than
later,
so
that
you
have
the
opportunity
to
give
us
bonding
information.
I
know
for
the
library,
for
example.
They
need
time
to
think
you
know
if
they're
not
a
priority
for
us
than
what
and
and
I
assume
that
that's
probably
true
for
any
of
the
other
projects.
That's
under
that
very
long
list.
B
B
B
K
We
had
talked
about
that
at
staff
level
and
we
essentially
were
on
hold
until
such
time
as
the
the
mayor
and
the
council
decided
to
bring
that
forward
and
we'll
bring
it
forward
when
we're
ready,
but
I
think
the
process
now
was.
We
were
waiting
for
the
mayor
to
decide
how
he
wanted
to
move
forward
on
it.
Well,.
B
K
We
can
certainly
work
on
that.
We,
we
were
kind
of
thinking
that
what
what
happened
was
when
the
when
the
board
was
first
convened,
they
would
kind
of
have
those
items
as
some
of
their
first
discussion
items,
but
maybe
to
help
move
that
along.
We
could
graph
some
things
up
to
begin
with
kind
of
for
some
rough
ideas.
L
Guess
story
all
buttoned,
starting
with
my
own
I,
might
add
in
so
I
I
think
the
idea
was
just
to
try
to
layout
create
some
line
of
sight
in
terms
of
what
the
process
was
going
to
be
and
head
up,
perhaps
the
over
time
to
identify
some
some
some
milestones
along
the
way
and
in
other
words
I
mean
I,
think
I,
think
you
know
the
the
appointments.
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
process
but
I
mean
I,
know,
there's
background
work
that
has
to
happen
background
checks
have
to
happen
with
with
the
people
I.
L
Okay,
okay,
I
guess
I
was
just
trying
to
understand
kind
of
what
the
sequence
of
events
you
know.
Instead
of
talking
about
the
process,
what
were
the
next
four
or
five
steps?
That
would
have
to
happen
and
and
perhaps
any
kind
of
timing
that
might
be
needed
between
those
steps
or
what
perhaps
additional
time
that
staff
might
need
for
individual
steps
or
something
like.