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July 28, 2014 - City Council Meeting
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A
A
A
A
B
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
the
meeting
of
the
city
of
bloomington
council
to
order.
Actually
I'm
going
to
wait
for
just
a
second,
so
I
didn't
notice
that
our
clerk
was
not
in
her
seat
can
start
with
everybody
except
the
clerk.
So
I
wonder
if
he
could
stand
please
for
the
pledge
of
allegiance
in
a
moment
of
silence.
Thank
you
so
much.
B
Here
and
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
the
public
comment
and
just
to
make
it
clear,
we
have
been
moving
away
from
the
requirement
where
you
had
public
comment
only
at
one
meeting
a
month
now,
then
we
move
toward
all
meetings
in
which
we
take
action.
Now
we're
going
to
be
from
here
on
out
doing
all
meetings,
some
a
public
comment
of
up
to
15
minutes
and
we're
going
to
start
with.
We
have
three
people
patricia
martin,
please
come
forward.
B
E
For
example,
I
found
a
most
interesting
report
from
the
world
health
organization
in
switzerland
on
the
history
of
elder
abuse,
stating
that
the
united
states
is
in
the
forefront
of
progressive
action
to
counter
this,
which
is
obviously
very
reassuring.
The
report
also
reflects
on
the
necessity
of
education
and
awareness
to
help
alleviate
negative
effects
resulting
from
such
situations
and
just
interestingly
enough.
E
E
He
thanked
me
for
doing
this
kind
of
work
and
encouraged
me
to
continue
for
he
feels
that
such
data
together
with
public
statements-
and
he
also
mentioned
the
importance
of
the
media,
can
help
to
break
the
barrier
between
the
victim,
the
aggressor
and
society
at
large.
The
barrier,
of
course,
being
fear.
E
All
of
us
need
to
be
made
aware
of
the
existence
of
laws,
programs
and
individuals
that
can
be
of
help
for
our
community
state
and
country
does
and
can
and
does
offer
assistance
to
those
who
need
it
in
these
most
important
areas,
and
I
will
continue
to
report
on
this
periodically
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
again,
the
members
of
the
council
and
mr
mayor
for
your
support.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
E
No,
it's
elizabeth
gruber
and
I'm
proud
to
live
on
the
west
side
of
bloomington,
so
I
will
give
you
my
address.
502
west,
locust
and
I've
got
notes
here,
and
I
hope
I
can
read
my
scribbling
I'm
here,
because
I
want
you
to
know
that
there
are
taxpayers
like
myself
who
are
appalled
at
the
actions
taken
by
the
mayor
city
manager
and
city
council
members.
If
I
had
a
few
thousand
flamingos,
I
would
stick
them
in
their
my
yard
to
represent
every
dollar
that
you
have
squandered
in
this
city
over
the
years.
E
The
city
manager
has
increased
his
staff
continuously
by
hiring
what
I
call
our
bureaucrats
and
cutting
back
on
the
people
that
actually
do
the
jobs,
like
the
policemen,
the
actual
workers
that
get
their
hands
dirty,
and
then
I
see
you
hiring
all
these
consultants
to
do
reports.
Well
then,
what
are
these
bureaucrats
doing
if
the
consultants
are
being
hired
to
do
the
reports,
then
my
other
issue
is:
I
think
that
you
have
a
responsibility,
a
fiduciary
responsibility
to
the
taxpayer
to
start
looking
where
this
money's
going.
E
I
don't
want
to
see
any
more
taxes
raised
because
it's
just
being
squandered.
You
did
not
even
look
at
cuts
that
were
suggested
by
judy
stearns,
and
that
is
what
we
should
have
been
doing
at
the
city.
Then
I
also
see
that
this
consultant
report
pretty
much
said.
We
don't
need
a
hotel,
it's
not
feasible,
yet
you
keep
pushing
this
hotel
like
the
coliseum.
E
And,
lastly,
what
I
find
very
serious
in
a
lack
of
your
reading.
Essential
documents
was
what
you
did
to
police
officer
oglesby,
who
was
exonerated
in
the
report,
and
yet
you
dismissed
him
and
now
the
city,
I
hope,
gets
a
lawsuit
from
this
officer
and
then
you
will
have
to
pay
him
his
back
pain
and
I
don't
think
he'll
ever
be
able
to
fix
his
reputation.
E
B
Okay,
we
have
alton
franklin
and
just
so
that
everybody
knows
we,
there
is
no.
We
don't
respond,
no
matter
what
people
say.
Thank
you.
F
I
just
got
back
tuesday.
We
went
to
visit
with
family
for
a
couple
weeks
and
a
really
wonderful
time
very
enlightening
time,
there's
something
to
be
said
for
getting
a
kind
of
a
totally
divorced
view
of
things
that
are
the
way
they
are.
F
I
was
in
a
little
place
called
baliki
novgorod,
which
is
not
quite
well.
It's
not
quite
300
000
people,
it's
my
wife's
hometown,
it's
the
oldest
city
in
russia,
yet
it's
been
called
by
vladimir
vladimirovich,
the
most
western
city
in
russia,
the
people
there
are
remarkable.
F
F
You've
got
people
that
well
somewhat
less
than
every
every
two
month
period
speak
up
and
say
this
is
what
we
need
to
do,
and
this
is
what
needs
to
happen
and
yeah.
There
are
some
that
are
pretty
consistent,
they're
pretty
well
known,
sounds
like
a
situation.
I'm
somewhat
familiar
with
myself.
F
You
know
the
thing
that
concerns
me,
though,
is
there
seemed
to
be
an
overriding
theme
to
a
lot
of
conversations
that
I
had,
and
I
think
one
of
my
wife's
uncles
was
about
the
most
succinct
and
about
the
most
accurate.
He
said
you
know
he
said
in
all
this
time.
He
says
we're
finally
reaching
a
point
to
where
russia
is
starting
to
look
more
like
america,
and
this
is
a
good
thing.
F
The
only
problem
is
that
america
is
starting
to
more
look
more
like
the
soviet
union,
and
this
is
not
a
good
thing
when
you
try
to
shut
people
up
when
you
try
to
hem
them
in
and
give
them
their
point
of
view
and
not
allow
any
any
type
of
input
or,
worse
still,
allow
them
to
vent
their
spleen
and
take
absolutely
no
action
on
it.
Fortunately,
I've
actually
seen
some
things
that
lead
me
to
believe
that,
however
small
it
might
be,
I
have
had
some
bit
of
positive
influence.
F
F
Do
you
know
which
one
he
chose?
I
said
no
grandpa,
I
don't.
He
says
the
fourth
and
that's
the
way.
I
am
because
I
believe
in
what
I
say.
I
believe
in
what
I
do
and
you
can
try
all
you
want
to,
and
I
can
guarantee
you
you
will
not
shut
me
up.
One
last
thing
for
both
the
regular
and
the
consent
agenda
and
for
what
I
have
said
here
tonight.
I
have
received
no
compensation
nor
promised
any.
Thank
you.
B
G
Thank
you
mayor,
I'd
like
to
ask
tom
david
reiner.
Hopefully
I
get
that
pronounced
right,
come
forward,
we're
going
to
have
him,
take
the
oath
of
office
in
in
just
a
minute,
but
I'm
very
pleased
to
introduce
tom
to
the
city
council
as
our
next
pace,
or
hopefully
at
some
point
in
time,
we'll
come
back
and
talk
about
even
a
possible
new
name
for
pace
department.
Community
development
director
tom
has
a
very
extensive
background
and
experience
in
both
the
private
and
public
sector.
G
G
What
really
impressed
me
is:
here's
an
individual
that
has
a
lot
of
private
sector
experience
and
has
to
develop
some
very
positive
working
relationships,
not
just
internally
with
staff,
but
with
the
development
and
business
community
as
well
constantly
trying
to
see
how
can
the
city
always
be
looking
for
ways
to
help
incentivize
and
and
make
sure
that
we're
addressing
and
making
sure
that
we're
providing
a
very
efficient
and
productive
process
to
help
the
development
community
move
forward
with
their
particular
projects,
tom's
also
renowned
for
his
looking
at
ways
to
be
helping
staff
improve
our
processes
to
be
more
productive,
and,
as
this
council
knows,
we
put
a
high
priority
on
performance
management
and
measuring
our
workload
and
other
activities
not
just
to
measure
them,
but
to
also
demonstrate
that
we
are
providing
good
value
for
the
taxpayers,
money
and
fees
and
charges
that
are
paid
to
the
city.
G
So
we're
very
pleased
to
have
tom
being
hired
for
this
new
director
position.
Tom
I'll,
give
you
a
few
minutes
if
you'd
like
to
share
anything
else
with
the
council
before
we
have
you
take
the
oath
of
office.
F
H
I've
been
either
a
planner
or
in
community
development
for
the
last
30
plus
years
and
as
david
mentioned,
both
working
for
local
government
directly
and
as
a
consultant
and
in
the
private
sector,
and
I
think
all
of
that
brings
a
different
perspective,
one
that
I'm
I'm
proud
to
bring
to
bloomington
it's
it's
a
challenging
community.
It's
a
community
with
a
lot
of
opportunity.
H
G
Our
economic
community
thanks
we'll
ask
the
city
clerk
to
come
forward
and
help
swear
in
tom
to
this
new
position.
B
Next,
we
move
I'll
turn
this
over
under
6b
to
our
city
manager,
the
introduction
of
roberta
bobby
hirokovich,
an
interim
director
of
parks,
recreation
and
cultural
arts,
mr
hills.
G
Thank
you
and
bobby.
If
you
had
come
forward,
I'm
very
pleased
tonight
to
introduce
to
you
our
interim
parks,
recreation
and
cultural
arts,
director
rebecca,
but
she
goes
by
bobby
hirakovich.
G
You
know
we
had
such
a
great
experience,
hiring
someone
else
from
the
champaign
of
urbana
area,
and
that
was
our
former
police
chief
rt
finney,
that
when
john
kennedy
made
his
announcement
he
was
heading
to
arizona.
Even
talking
with
john.
You
know,
one
of
the
names
that
came
up
was
bobby
recently,
she
retired
as
executive
director,
the
champaign
park
district,
and
for
those
who
you
know,
understand
the
distinction.
G
The
park
district
is
very
much
a
local
government
entity
in
and
of
itself
the
board
levies,
taxes
and
bobby
very
much
serves
as
the
chief
executive
officer
for
the
parks
district,
although
she's
not
willing
and
not
interested
in
going
back
to
work
full-time,
her
experience
both
in
illinois
and
florida.
G
As
we
search
for
a
permanent
replacement
for
this
director,
we
thought
it
would
be
just
a
great
benefit
to
us,
so
she
accepted
and
we're
just
very
pleased
to
have
her
here.
Working
with
us,
she's
got
a
very
large
department
and
she's
agreed
to
stay
with
us
until,
hopefully
we
can
get
that
permanent
director
named
in
the
very
near
future.
So
with
that
bobby
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
share
with
the
council
and
and
and
especially,
I
think,
she's
visited
almost
every
park
since
you've
been
here
for
a
couple
of
weeks
that
right,
that's.
C
Right.
Thank
you
very.
E
Is
is
a
red
bird,
so
we
compliment
each
other.
Well,
I
think
so
we're
very
happy
to
be
here.
The
park
system
is
awesome,
it's
not
without
its
needs,
that's
for
sure,
but
I
can
tell
you
that,
after
going
through
every
park
that
I
met
children
of
all
ages,
I
met
adults
of
all
ages
and
sizes.
I
met
a
group
of
moms
who
were
working
to
lose
10
pounds
before
school
started
who
were
walking
on
the
trails.
You
know,
I
believe
that
democracy
starts
at
the
playground.
E
B
I
B
Move
by
alderman
fizzini
is
there
a
second
second
second
by
alderwoman,
painter
and
someone
else?
Okay,
and
there
is
a
discussion,
madam
clerk,
would
you
call
it
mayor.
J
B
All
the
middle
wobbly
did
you.
Oh
okay,
we
have
eight
to
zero.
There
are
no
nays
to
announce
madam
clerk.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
K
I
just
I'm
concerned
that
we're
committing
ourselves
to
a
seven
year
contract
here
and
I
would
like
to
have
have
known
if
there
was
any
other
alternatives
on
a
short-term
basis.
K
Again,
my
push
here
is
to
see
that
this
entity
breaks
even
on
its
own
and
becomes
self-sufficient
and
in
terms
of
operational
expenses
and
and
otherwise
I
I
think
many
of
my
constituents
are
very
concerned-
that
we
continue
to
tax
and
spend
on
things
that
they
oftentimes
can't
even
afford,
and
so
again
I
I
don't
necessarily
want
to
reduce
the
services
there
if,
if
the
community
doesn't
want
to
do
that,
but
I
think
we
need
to
further
allocate
the
expenses
where
they
go,
and
I
think
that
committing
to
this
is
is
one
step
in
in
the
wrong
direction.
K
I
I
would
like
to
see
the
bcpa
stand
on
its
own
and
take
responsibility
for
many
of
these
operational
expenses.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
G
That
this
particular
hvac
software
system
is
in
serious
need
of
upgrading
and,
as
indicated
in
the
backup
report,
we
do
need
to
move
ahead
in
order
to
achieve
cost
efficiencies
and
effectiveness
in
the
heating,
the
cooling
being
able
to
to
manage
that
and
operate
that
in
an
efficient
manner.
That
cannot
be
done
with
the
current
software
system
that
we
have,
so
this
is
necessary
to
not
only
it's
more
than
just
a
maintenance
agreement.
It's
also
an
upgrade
to
some
of
the
hardware
and
software
we're
going
to
be
using.
G
G
Well,
it's
a
again
the
you
were
dealing
with
a
situation
with
their
old
heart
old
software
system
cannot
be
functional
or
maintained,
going
forward,
it's
outdated
and
it
cannot
be
used
going
forward.
It
needs
some
significant
upgrades
similar
to
what
we
are
currently
even
dealing
with
on
the
coliseum.
G
Where
we're
looking
at
trying
to
improve
you
know
the
the
overall
operating
effectiveness
of
the
the
the
brains.
You
know
that
operates
and
keeps
in
sync
the
heating
and
air
conditioning
system
of
those
facilities.
So
it's
it's
critical.
You
know
to
the
to
maintain
the
in
the
the
facility.
You
know
to
have
a
good
comfort
temperature
for
all
those
who
are
going
to
be
in
the
facility
long
term.
Okay,.
B
Well,
we've
heard
the
concern
the
reason
why
it's
pulled
and
the
reason
why
we're
asking
is
there
do
we
have
a
motion
if,
before
we
go
further,
if
there's
no
support,
yes,
alderman
fizzini,
yes,.
B
A
second
I'll,
second,
okay,
a
second
by
alderman
schmidt.
Let's
see
older
woman
stearns.
E
B
I
think
correct.
E
And
my
question
is:
what
about
the
all
the
warranties
and
all
that
for
the?
I
believe
we
did
it
complete.
You
know
installation
of
hvac
in
the
in
the
bcpa.
I
believe
we
really
gutted
most
of
all
of
the
mechanicals
that
were
there,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
a
short
few
years
later
we
already
have
obsolete.
We
already
have
obsolete
software
and
I'm
wondering
where
all
of
our
warranties
and
all
of
our
you
know
assurances
are
when
we
installed
this
equipment
that
we
would
not
be.
E
You
know
coming
back
and
especially
with
a
long-term
contract.
You
know,
I
understand
maintenance
agreements
and
one
would
think
that
maybe
we
might
have
had
one
with
the
original
equipment
installation,
but
I
just
don't
understand
in
a
building.
That's
been
completely
refurbished
a
few
years
back,
while
already
we
have
to
go
in
and
spend
this
kind
of
money
every
single
year,
12
650
every
year
for
seven
years.
What?
If,
if
we
need
something
done,
you
know
why?
Don't
we
just
specify
exactly
what
it
is
and
do
it
instead
of
this
kind
of
thing.
B
G
Think
I'm
going
to
make
a
one
quick
question,
but
I
want
to
see
if
alex
or
john
whoever
might,
if
you
could
come
up.
Let
me
I
do
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
last
paragraph
on
page
one,
even
faithful
and
gold
in
the
recent
report
of
all
the
city-owned
facilities
mentioned,
that
software
packages
for
building
maintenance
systems
typically
have
a
useful
life
of
10
years
or
less
depending
upon
the
manufacturer,
updates
and
system
obsolescence.
G
So
that's
one
thing
I
think
we're
even
finding
in
many
of
our
systems
and
we
even
find
these
in
our
financial
software.
You
know
everything
has
a
a
usually
a
point
in
time
where
they're
going
to
stop
supporting
many
of
these
systems
because
they
come
out
with
new
and
updated
versions
alex.
Is
there
anything
else
you
can
help
in
answering
alderman
sterns?
Well,.
L
L
At
the
time
the
city
declined
to
purchase
the
maintenance
agreement,
which
is
what
we're
looking
at
now,
which
would
have
included
those
very
vital
updates,
and
the
the
world
of
software
is
seven
years
a
very
long
time.
So
we're
looking
at
a
system
that
is
no
longer
supported
obsolete
and
we
need
to
properly
maintain
it
with
a
new
new
platform.
E
Right
so
every
seven
years
or
so
we're
gonna
have
to
completely
redo.
This
is
that
right
I
mean
you
know.
I
mean
I've
worked
with
hvac
on
a
much
less
sophisticated
basis
and
I've
never
seen.
You
know
this
kind
of
of
continuous
software.
I
realize
this
is
a
major
facility
and
I
suppose
it's
constantly
regulating
itself,
but
you
know
it's
just
kind
of
interesting
that
every
single
seven
years
we
have
to
completely
apparently
annie
up
with
another.
What
what
will
be
next
time
twenty
thousand
a
year-
or
I
mean
who
knows
right.
B
D
You,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
alex
you
know.
These
are
definitely
warranted
concerns
about
the
cost
over
time,
but
there's
a
couple
things
that
I'd
like
to
consider
as
part
of
this
number,
one
being
that
the
bcpa
is
pretty
much
it
being
older
building
and
it's
going
to
take
more
thoughts
to
regulate
temperature
in
there
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
using
our
resources
effectively
and
ensuring
that
we're
not
wasting
energy
cooling,
the
wrong
spot
or
heating
the
wrong
spot.
D
But
also,
I
wanted
to
note
that
here
on
the
second
page
of
the
staff
report,
page
149,
the
last
paragraph
before
community
groups,
interested
person
is
contacted
right
here
it
says
staff
is
recommending
the
seven
year
agreement
with
tss,
as
proposed.
This
upgrade
will
reduce
real
costs
over
the
life
of
the
agreement
and
ensures
the
most
up-to-date
system
which
daily
operations
can
be
managed.
So
to
me,
this
answers
that
the
constant
upgraded
software
question,
our
potential
costs
are
reduced
and
we're
getting
the
best
bang
for
our
buck.
So
I'm
supportive.
I
L
I
B
I
B
Carries
six
to
two,
madam
kirk,
would
you
announce
the
nays
please.
B
Okay,
if
we
move
right
along,
I
think
also
alderman
lauer
pulled
item
q
6q,
and
that
is
the
request
to
approve
a
budget
amendment
in
the
general
fund
for
the
bus
barn
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
alderman
lauer.
For
his
concerns.
K
Thank
you
mayor.
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
condition
of
the
property,
I'm
concerned
that
we
haven't
done
our
due
diligence
in
terms
of
looking
at
other
alternatives,
including
tarpon,
the
trucks.
It
appears
that
we're
trying
to
protect
our
salt
loaded
trucks
in
case
of
a
snow
or
ice
emergency,
which
is,
is
due
diligence.
K
Certainly
you
know
in
in
many
of
the
other
industries
that
I've
I've
been
acquainted
with,
including
farming,
where
we
are
very,
very
moisture,
conscious
about
our
product
that
we're
hauling
and
the
temperature
therein.
You
know
it's
adequate
to
tarp
the
trucks
and
and
let
them
sit
overnight.
K
I'm
just
not
sure
that
we
need
to
be
spending
this
type
of
money
and
again
committing
to
a
number
of
years
three
years,
and
I
realized
that
there
is
a
short
term
out
at
six
months
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
pleased
to
see
that.
But
I
would
just
like
to
see
some
other
alternatives
in
the
short
term.
I
guess
that's.
That's
the
big
thing
here.
B
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
city
measure,
hills
for
a
brief
response
or
clarification
and.
G
As
we
shared
with
you
previously,
we
have
looked
at
other
options
and
we
really
haven't
come
up
with
anything
that
seems
to
fit
the
current
needs,
and
especially
has
the
proximity,
but
we're
continuing
that
effort
and
if
we
do
find
something
that
might
serve
both
short
and
medium
term,
we'll
continue
to
evaluate
and
bring
those
back
to
the
council.
Hence
that's
why
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
six-month.
G
B
Tar
equipment
option
that
alderman.
G
I'm
gonna
have
to
turn
to
ask
jim
carter
if
he
could
come
up
and
explain
that,
and
maybe
if
he
wants
to
comment
on
that
and
the
other
keep
in
mind,
we
have
had
almost
free
use
of
this
facility,
for
I
think
one
or
two
years
so
yeah.
So
would
you
thank.
M
City
manager,
hales
alderman
lauer,
in
response
to
your
question,
as
we
had
brought
before
to
the
council
in
that
closed
session.
We
talked
about
this.
The
key
component
of
this
is
this
is
a
short-term
solution
and
we
committed
to
the
council
that
we
would
bring
back
to
you
in
the
next
budget
year
more
of
that
mid-term.
Looking
at
how
could
we
build
some
covered
facility?
One
of
the
issues
that
you
have
with
tarps
is
yes,
while
it
might
prevent
some
of
that
rain.
M
Whenever
it's
exposed
to
the
elements
like
that
with
salt,
it
still
become
more
of
the
more
of
a
block
which
is
once
you
start
going
out
and
trying
to
distribute
that
salt.
The
big
issue
is,
when
it
clumps
it
just
it
becomes
very
untenable
to
be
able
to
have
the
quick
response
that
we
have.
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
as
as
a
city
is,
we
need
to
plan
for
the
long
term
and
deal
with
the
short
term
while
trying
to
find
some
sort
of
interim
solution.
M
So
again,
what
we
presented
is
we've
committed
to
this
next
year.
Put
it
in
the
budget
if
it
were
able
to
be
approved,
something
that
would
allow
us
to
maybe
even
purchase
land
for
a
future
either
a
satellite
facility
or
a
different
facility
for
public
works.
Look
and
then
what
can
we
do
on
a
midterm
solution
for
something
of
a
covered
facility,
either
through
a
morton
style
or
some
sort
of
you
know
four-sided
type
facility?
If
we
were
able
to
do
that,
then
we
would
look
to
get
out
of
you
know
this
this
facility,
this.
M
You
know
this,
this
bus,
barn,
but
again
I
would
really
like
to
take
a
second
and
really
thank
connect.
Transit.
I
think
it's
very
important
to
not
look
past
that
that
they
have
given
us
free
use
of
a
facility
for
almost
two
years
now.
I
really
want
to
thank
them
for
their
generosity,
because
at
the
time,
the
city,
whenever
we
started
purchasing
these
automated
pieces
of
equipment,
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
hydraulics
and
things
that
needs
to
be
covered.
B
You
know
the
question,
so
we
start
with
fizzini
and
schmidt.
B
Okay,
move
motion
by
fazzini.
Is
there
a
second
to
approve
I'll.
D
B
Okay,
I've
got
a
couple
seconds,
second,
by
alderman,
black
and
wobbly,
but
we'll
give
it
to
alderman
black
and
all
the
woman
schmidt.
You
were
next.
E
M
There
was
always
a
desire
for
us
to
either
to
move
forward
with
something
I
guess
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
connect
transit,
but
there
was
always
the
understanding
that
at
some
point
we
would
be
bringing
it
to
the
city
council,
alderman
schmidt.
You
bring
up
a
couple
key
points.
We
didn't
bring
this
to
you
trying
to
say
in
a
vacuum.
Everything
is
wonderful
that
front
office
space.
We
show
pictures
in
the
in
the
memo
showing
the
collapsed
roof,
we're
not
looking
to
utilize
that
front
roof
space.
M
That's
not
something
we'd
be
looking
to
do
asbestos
concerns.
We
don't
want
to
occupy
that
space
permanently.
It
would
be
that
need
for
us
in
a
close
proximity
to
where
our
building
is
at,
to
be
able
to
allow
us
to
continue
to
operate
again
with
the
type
of
space
needs.
We
have
that.
That
is
more
of
our
concern.
There's
also
there's
a
a
fuel
station.
We
point
out,
you
know
in
that
they're
on
the
property,
so
that
would
be
a
concern.
M
B
E
G
Can
I
maybe,
as
you
know,
serving
on
the
connect
transit
board
that
basically
they
have
an
interest
of
ultimately
selling
the
facility
they
have
tried
on
a
couple
occasions.
I
think
they're
struggling
because
the
appraised
value
hasn't
necessarily
generated
purchase
offers
for
the
money
amount
of
money
it's
been
appraised,
for
they
also
understand
that
there's
could
be
potentially
changes
going
on
in
the
neighborhood.
G
Even
the
mayor,
as
we've
talked
with
the
library
board
about
you,
know
some
expansion,
there
could
be
a
need,
for
you
know,
a
detention
basin
in
the
area,
the
why
mca
is
looking
at
possible
expansion
or
building
a
new
facility.
So
I
think,
because
of
that
and
and
the
the
unique
nature
of
this
facility,
I
think
they're
finding
that
there
isn't
a
ready
market
to
necessarily
sell
it
right
away.
But
you
know
they
also
have
fiduciary
duty
to
return
to
the
connect
transit.
G
G
So
this
is
even
I
think
you
could
say,
federal
requirements,
because
some
of
those
federal
dollars
was
used
in
purchasing
that
as
they're
talking
to
these
people,
I'm
sure
some
of
those
same
people
have
you
know
says
why
not
lease
it.
You
know,
derive
some
revenue
and
then
continue
to
keep
your
options
for
a
possible
future
sale
and
facility.
M
City
manager,
if
I
could
even
add
that
I
hate
to
speak
for
andrew
johnson,
the
executive
director,
but
he
has
he
has
expressed
that
they
do
have
that.
You
know
the
federal
government
does
regulate
that
area
and
they
have
expressed
that.
What
are
you
doing
with
this?
You
know
what
what
is
what
is
the
current
use
of
this,
and
they
have
to
provide
answers
for
that,
so
entering
into
an
agreement
would
answer
that
question
for
them.
So
that's
that's
why
we
the
trigger
point,
I.
E
M
They
were
on
the
west
yard,
off
howard
and
mulberry,
and
then
you've
also
got
the
havco
building.
That
was
an
older
building
right
off
of
jackson
right
over
by
our
drop-off
facility,
and
there
was
a
contract
to
demolish
both
of
those.
Since
we
had
taken
those
out
of
service
the
council
in
a
previous
fiscal
year-
and
you
know
that
was
actually
that
west
howard
yard
was
one
of
those
that
was
built
in
19.
You
know.
M
C
E
And
I
guess
this,
but
this
purchase
this
lease
price
or
something
wasn't
budgeted
apparently
for
15.
I
haven't
so
I'm
I'm
wondering
too.
I
mean
kind
of
the
logic
of
things
as
alderman
schmidt,
I
think
kind
of
pointed
out.
What
were
we
planning?
We
did
budget
for
this.
We
knew
our
other
buildings
were
going
on
surface.
What
what?
What
was
our?
What
was
our
plan.
M
We
didn't
know
whenever
we'd
be
able
to
move
forward
with
this,
and
so
you
know
we
didn't
know
how
it
was
going
to
move
forward.
If
we
were
going
to
continue
to
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
public
works
campus
period.
You
know,
what's
going
to
happen,
what
will
what
will
occur?
It's
been
tough
to
plan
for
some
of
that,
and
that's
where
I
think
it's
key
this
next
budget
cycle
to
really
get
the
council's
feedback
on.
What
is
that?
E
And
I
think
someone
asked
a
question-
I
don't
know
who
it
was
about
our
fire
station,
that's
being,
I
think,
currently
used
as
a
facil
as
a
storage
facility.
I
believe
so
one
kind
of
has
to
wonder,
and
I
just
wonder
what
we
would
have
come
up
with
since
we
weren't
budgeted
we,
you
know
we
knew
this
situation
was
going
to
arrive.
E
B
E
K
M
M
K
And
so
we
don't
have
any
other
properties
that
we
actually
had
some
sort
of
sort
of
formal
bid.
M
K
Okay,
is
there
a
possibility
that
we
could
take
this
back
to
committee
and
actually
issue
a
a
request
for
proposal
and
look
for
a
more
viable,
maybe
more
cost-effective,
alternative.
B
I
mean
again:
well,
no,
we've
got
a
motion
today
we
have
to
vote
on
this
one,
but
but
the
chris
again,
if
we
realize
the
rfp
would
be
something
that's
really
closely
centrally
located
to
where
we
are
right.
Now
that
has
this
much
square
footage.
It's
you
know
anyway,
we
can
do
that,
but
let's
see
I
think
I
saw
alderman
middlewomboy
and
then
black.
You
can
wait.
Weigh
in
on
this,
go
ahead,
a
question.
M
For
you,
john's
still
close,
so
walk
us
through
what
would
happen
if
we
deny
this
request
tonight.
If
we
deny
the
request,
depending
upon
the
action
that
the
council
gave
us,
you
know
if
we
went
through
an
rfp
or
the
like,
the
the
rub
would
come
in
for
us
as
we.
We
don't
really
have
a
good
place
to
go
come
winter,
so
we
need
to
process
the
rfp
quickly,
which
we
could
do.
I'm
sure
that
finance
would
help
us
with
that.
The
the
issue
for
us
is
going
to
be
once
winter
time
hits.
M
We
can
store
a
lot
of
our
equipment
outside
right
now,
but
come
november
december.
That's
where
things
are
going
to
get
more
difficult
for
us,
walking
it
through.
I'd
have
to
get
with
finance
to
talk
about
what
that
would
look
like
to
to
do
an
rfp
past
that
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
other
city
manager.
If
there's
any
other
facet
of
that
process,
you
can
think
of.
G
Once
again,
I
just
want
to
make
it
known
that
we
do
have
a
six
month.
Termination
notice,
you
know
november
snow
could
be
you
know
not
too
far
off.
So
what
this
does
give
us
is
certainty.
G
You
know
that
we've
got
a
facility
that
has
worked
very
well
the
last
two
years
at
no
cost
to
the
city,
and
I
think
our
level
of
service
on
snow
removal
has
been
even
more
exceptional
because
we've
had
that
facility.
So
we
at
least
we
have
that
certainty,
knowing
what
we
are
going
to
have.
If
we
do
start
looking
again,
you
know
and
find
something
else.
You
know
we
just
don't
know.
G
If
there
will
be
anything
else
and
and
like
jim
said,
we
did
ask
justine
to
look
had
to
contact
brokers
and
others,
and
we
just
weren't
able
to
find
there
was
nothing
brought
back
to
us
that
something
would
suit
the
needs
of
the
public
works
department.
Now
things
change
month
to
month.
You
know
and
things
like
that,
but
we're
going
to
continue.
That's
why
we
have
the
six-month
opt-out.
Provision
is
if
something
better
comes
along,
maybe
even
more
cost
efficient,
we'll
bring
that
back
to
the
city
and
look
to
exercise.
B
Our
explanation
provision
again,
I
think
at
least
from
my
perspective,
the
council
can
overrule
me,
but
I
think
we're
beating
a
dead
horse
over
and
over
here.
If
we
could
be
very
quick,
then
I
haven't
heard
from
alderman
fruin
yet
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
black
and
milla
wombway
and
let's
wrap
this
up.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
J
Mayor
my
short
take
would
be
that
I
am
concerned,
as
others
are
with
this
situation,
given
that
I
think
we
also
have
to
ask
ourselves
the
question
of
have
any
of
us
been
in
the
building.
I've
not
been
I've
not
been
building.
So
in
the
absence
of
that,
I
think
we
defer
to
the
expectations
we
have
of
our
management
team.
We
expect
them
to
make
the
right
decisions
and
that's
what
I'm
supportive
of
tonight.
J
I
think
what
it
comes
down
to
me
for
in
this
situation
is:
we
do
have
a
short-term
police
opt-out,
it's
not
an
ownership,
it's
a
temporary
situation.
Unless
we've
got
something
else
on
the
table,
I
understand
the
importance
of
taking
care
of
our
equipment
and
so
forth,
and
so
on,
so
with
reservations,
I'm
supportive
of
it.
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
jim,
for
coming
on
up
here,
I'll
weigh
in
very
quickly.
You
know,
I,
I
think
the
sense
you've
gotten
both
from
that
meeting,
that
we
had
in
the
council
that
we're
uncomfortable
with
the
scenario
for
a
lot
of
the
logistical
reasons,
but
I
am
comfortable
with
the
six-month.
You
know
we
can
get
out
pretty
quickly
if
need
be,
and
I
think
in
the
in
the
interim
you're
going
to
probably
find
yourself
looking
to
find
a
more
permanent
and
suitable
location.
D
I
don't
think
there
would
be
any
harm
or
fall
in
doing
that
and
we
can
get
out
after
this
winter.
I
would
assume
you
know
when
I
think
about
this
on
a
higher
level,
though
it'd
be
really
nice
to
see
us
start
thinking
more
regionally
with
some
of
our
facilities
and,
as
you
know,
we
do
need
this.
I
assume
normal
needs
something
very
similar
to
this.
Perhaps
the
county
has
need
for
this
space
and
maybe
go
on
some
sort
of
joint
venture
to
save
money
for
all
taxpayers
and
all
those
municipalities.
D
So
this
gives
us
kind
of
a
short-term
solution.
I
think
you
got
the
feedback
that
you
wanted
from
the
council,
but
that's
my
my
my
feedback
and
I.
B
E
D
If
we
can
collaborate
on
other
formalities,
where
we
save
money,
if
we
can
collaborate
on
other
facilities,
where
we
save
money,
we
can
take
that
savings
and
move
it
to
a
facility
like
this
one.
So
with
that
I'd
like
to
call
the
question,
so
we.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
we
now
move
on
to
our
regular
agenda
and
item.
8A
is
downtown
transportation
hubs,
and
this
is
some
changes
for
the
2014-2015
school
year.
There's
actually
a
presentation
and
discussion,
and
that's
our
only
item
on
our
regular
agenda
this
evening
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
this
over
to
senator
david
hales,
and
I
think
our
interim
director
excuse
me
interim
deputy
city
manager.
Sue
mclaughlin
is
coming
up
because
she
has
been
very
active
on
this.
B
C
D
B
G
And
mayor,
if
I
can,
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
you
know
starting
several
years
ago,
when
alderwoman
schmidt
was
very
involved
with
the
downtown
entertainment
task
force.
There's
been
many
many
ideas
being
promulgated
about.
How
can
we
help
address
a
number
of
challenges
downtown,
one
of
which
has
been?
How
do
we
get
people
in
and
out
of
the
downtown
late
at
night,
especially
saturday
morning,
sunday
morning,
at
2
a.m?
As
taverns
closed
down,
we've
had
a
lot
of
complaints
about
taxis
vehicle
for
hires.
G
How
do
we
maintain
a
safe
situation
for
both
vehicles,
as
well
as
pedestrians,
and
these
transportation
hubs
was
a
recommendation
that
we
tried
and
but
we've
also
been
in
that
process
of
evaluating?
Is
this
still
something
that
we
want
to
recommend?
We
continue
so
tonight
we're
going
to
talk
more
specifically
at
the
downtown
transportation
hubs,
but
there's
many
other
issues
too.
E
Thank
you
mayor
and
city
council.
Yes,
we
did
take
this
forward
and
we
started
the
process
back
at
late
june,
on
june
25th,
we
had
a
downtown
business
traffic
steering
committee
meeting
and
trisha
stiller
with
the
downtown
business
association
attended,
as
well
as
staff
and
engineering,
and
we
just
kind
of
threw
everything
on
the
plate
to
discuss.
Okay.
Where
are
we
at?
What's
working?
What's
not
working,
so
we
started
talking
about.
E
So
we
thought
well,
let's
break
this
down
and
first
we'll
talk
about
the
signs
and
we
talked
about
everything
from
you
know,
consolidating
to
new
signs
to
the
way
finding
that
I
know
has
been
discussed,
and
hopefully
we
can
address
sometime
in
the
near
future.
Some
of
the
other
things,
as
listed
in
my
report
included.
E
You
know
ballet
service
for
some
of
these
downtown
businesses
moving
a
hub
to
a
central
location,
but
we
determined
that
that
wasn't
safe
for
the
citizens.
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
have
the
hubs
is
because
we
don't
want
people
walking
in
the
streets
and
so
to
get
these
hubs
where
they
can
go
right
from
the
curb
to
the
vehicle.
E
We
also
talked
about
the
parking
decks
trying
to
direct
people
to
the
parking
decks
like
during
the
day
or
before
10
pm,
so
that
they're
not
getting
towed
that
they
parked,
but
you
know
they're
not
very
attractive
right
now.
Some
of
the
lighting
is
old
and
yellow
or
the
decks
are.
You
know
maybe
need
to
be
spruced
up
a
little
bit
or
how
do
we
direct
people
to
these
decks
and
make
them
more
attractive?
E
E
That's
still
a
work
in
process,
so
that
wasn't
something
that
we
could
use
right
now
and
then
also
marketing
efforts
which
included
working
with
the
businesses
that
are
mostly
involved,
especially
surrounding
these
hubs,
try
to
get
them
whether
it
was
you
know,
put
signs
in
their
windows
or
on
their
bathroom
doors.
To
try
to
you
know,
notify
people
please
don't
park
in
these
areas,
so
what
we
decided
to
do
was
break
it
down
into
incremental
steps.
E
What
this
is
is
a
what's
called
the
universal
towing
sign,
so
you
don't
have
to
read
it.
You
don't
have
to
try
to
read
what
the
words
say
pretty
much.
If
you
see
this,
you
know
that
it
means
toway,
it's
bigger
than
some
of
the
other
signs
and
it's
going
to
be
installed
underneath
those
smaller
signs
so
that
it's
more
it's
about
six
and
a
half
feet
up.
So
it's
not
eight
feet
up,
which
is
the
tallest
that
we
could
make
something
and
it's
bright
red
and
white.
E
That
being
said,
we
also
know
you
know
it's
more
signs
and
not
everybody's
going
to
see
signs.
So
one
of
the
other
things
that
was
discussed
was
currently
there's
typical
white
striping
for
these
parking
spots
is
to
actually
add
a
pavement
marking
whether
it's
a
white
dash
line
or
solid,
blue
or
solid
yellow,
so
that
when
somebody
pulls
into
that
spot,
they
see
as
they're
driving
something's
different.
E
Here
and
hopefully
it
would
direct
them
to
look
for
a
sign
that
tells
them
why
it's
different,
the
other
other
incremental
steps
would
include
the
pr
campaign
continuing
to
work
with
dba
on
marketing
and
working
with
the
businesses
trying
to
get
the
word
out.
We've
already
reached
out
to
derrick
our
facilities,
interim
facilities
manager
on
what
possibly
can
do
to
make
the
parking
garages
more.
You
know
advantageous
to
use
and
also
just
keep
researching,
keep
the
ideas
open,
which
is
why
I
put
this
up
on
the
screen.
E
This
came
out
of
a
recent
meeting
of
the
downtown
business
owners
talking
about
downtown
traffic
and
parking,
and
this
is
a
template
that
susan
brought.
She
is
a
downtown
business
owner
and
she
saw
it
on
the
internet.
It's
not
something!
That's
in
the
works.
It's
not
something!
We've
ordered!
It
was
just
something
that
all
of
the
business
owners
that
were
at
this
meeting
found
very
intriguing,
because
it
would
be
one
sign.
You
wouldn't
have
five
or
six
you
would
have
one.
There
may
be
a
concern
with
the
color
blindness.
E
If
you
you
don't
have
trouble,
reading
red
or
green,
you
can
make
it
blue
or
white,
or
blue
or
yellow.
You
know
that
can
be
discussed,
but
we're
just
discussing
the
you
know:
it's
pretty
clear.
Okay,
let's
see
I'm
here
on
a
tuesday
and
it's
you
know
three
o'clock
in
the
afternoon.
Okay,
it's
green
obviously
would
have
to
be
big
enough.
It
would
have
to
be
easily
red.
I
mean
there's
lots
of
things
to
vet
with
this,
but
this
is
just
one
idea,
that's
being
you
know,
thrown
out
for
discussion.
E
I
think
alderman
schmidt
was
at
that
meeting,
so
something
to
look
at.
It
certainly
generated
a
lot
of
interest.
So
so
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
are
out
there.
I
did
speak
with
chief
hefner
about
how
he
felt
things
were
going.
Obviously
it's
not
the
school
year
right
now.
He
did
feel
that
the
hubs
were
benefit
versus
taking
them
out.
E
He
does
feel
that
not
having
a
central
location
is
safer
than
having
people
walk
in
the
streets.
We
even
discussed,
I
guess
a
number
of
years
ago
there
was
discussion
about
the
closing
of
north
main.
Obviously
that
wouldn't
work.
How
would
you
get
people
out
and
emergency
services?
And
things
like
that?
So
we're
still
talking
about
ideas,
but
the
hubs
are
a
good
idea.
E
B
And
you
want
to
show
us
that
one
there,
that's
maybe
a
little
more
clear
and
tangible.
You
want
to
see
it
sure
I
can.
Oh,
you
want
me
to
yeah
a
new
car
now.
B
Okay,
and
as
long
as
I
think,
we've
got
our
q
a
period
and
you're
two
minutes
ahead
of
schedules.
We're
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
with
all
the
woman
schmidt.
E
Just
a
quick
question:
thank
you
again
so
much
for
your
work
on
this.
This
is
great
and
really
appreciate
you
coming
to
the
downtown
property
owners
meeting,
and
that
was
really
great.
I'm
not
really
clear
are,
are
signs
coming
down
and
that's
going
to
replace
signs,
or
is
this
an
added
sign.
C
E
An
added
sign,
although
there
was
discussion
about
yes,
the
height
ex,
you
cannot
exceed
eight
feet
and
we
can't
go
below
six
and
a
half
feet.
So
what
they're
going
to
do
is
kind
of
address
it
as
they
see
it.
You
know
whether
it
needs
to
you
know
some
consolidation
or
to
make
it
all
work,
but
they
want
this.
We
would
like
this
one
as
the
lowest
one,
so
it's
closest
to
eye
level.
E
That
is
extremely
clear
and
then
you
get
the
smaller
signs.
That
say,
you
know
no
parking
except,
but
for
whenever
I
mean
I
really
can't
figure
them
out,
there's
no
no
way
we
can
take
those
other
signs
down.
Yeah,
I'm
sure
you
know
we
probably
could
discuss
that
with
with
our
traffic
engineer
is
absolutely
awesome.
D
Black
and
then
we'll
go.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Thank
you
sue
for
putting
this
all
together.
You
know
to
me,
you
know
I
remember
when
I
saw
the
it
was
floating
around
online
a
couple
weeks
ago.
I
think
actually
michael
gorman
was
the
one
that
I
saw.
D
I
clicked
on
his
facebook,
and
I
saw
this
and
I
posted
to
my
facebook
and
to
me
this
is
an
urgent
business
matter
for
the
the
downtown
area,
because
I've
had
parked
down
there
before,
and
I
consider
myself
a
fairly
reasonable
person
and
I'm
confused
by
it's
like
a
bad
logic
problem
about
when
you
can
park
and
how
you
can
park.
I.
D
That
was
low.
I
was
shooting
yes,
so
this
this
to
me,
I
think,
would
make
business
sense
for
a
lot
of,
because
I
I
think
this
is
super
clear
and
I
know
reading
the
article
that
there
were
a
lot
of
ada
concerns.
With
you
know,
height
color
blindness
was
definitely
one,
but
to
me
those
these
are
easy
challenges
that
we
can
overcome,
and
I
think
the
goal
should
be
to
get
away
from
those
cavalcade
of
signs
that
are
very
confusing.
You
know
at
an
even
higher
level.
D
I
would
love
to
see
us
eventually
charge
for
parking
downtown.
I
was
reading
this
book
called
the
high
cost
of
free
parking
and
that
we
are
essentially
subsidizing
a
lot
of
the
infrastructure
challenges
because
we're
not
creating
a
healthy
flow
of
people
downtown
and
as
much
as
30
to
40
percent
of
traffic
can
come
from
people
just
looking
for
a
parking
space
and
even
if
you're
doing
a
nominal
cost.
It
just
helps
to
keep
that
flow
going.
D
But
you
counter
that
by
having
free
parking
spaces
in
the
garage,
so
people
can
have
the
option
to
park
for
free
and
there
are
a
lot
of
excellent
apps
out
there
I
mean
when
I
was
in
la
phoenix
dc.
They
have
ones.
You
can
sync
up
to
your
credit
card
on
your
phone.
It
scans
your
spot,
it
charges
you
and
you're
done
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
you
know
confusing
one
with
you
know,
pumping
in
quarters,
so
I
think
at
a
higher
level.
D
That
would
do
our
downtown
well
because
we
have
create
more
flow
of
people,
and
but
you
know
that's
one
of
those
controversial
issues,
I'm
sure
I'll
hear
about.
So
that's
my
feedback.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Ultimate
zazini.
I
B
E
I'm
just
curious
what
impact,
if
any,
with
this
set,
will
this
have
on
the
downtown
bar
scene?
You
know
at
2am
on
saturday
morning,
or
I
mean
what
I
I
think
what
this
is
starting
is
not
well
we're
going
to
try
to
keep
the
cars
out
of
the
hub
so
that
the
vehicles
for
hire
can
park
there.
So
it
should
assist
in
not
having
to
tow.
You
know
tow
less
people
and
then
have
those
vehicles
available
for
people
to
get
on
and
off
easily
we're
hoping
that
it'll
help.
B
C
B
G
Just
a
couple
of
quick
items:
first
of
I
want
to
give
thanks
to
patti
lynn,
silva,
carla,
murillo
and
others
from
the
finance
department.
They
did
finish
the
fiscal
year,
2015
final
budget
books
there's
two
volumes
together
with
a
cd
and
a
little
budget
in
brief
document
that
has
been
put
in
your
boxes,
so
we
thank
them.
I
think
alex
was
very
much
involved
in
the
budget
in
brief
again
this
year,
so
we'll
also
be
putting
out
on
the
website
that
these
all
these
documents
are
available
electronically,
as
prior
year.
G
Documents
are
as
well
so
appreciate
all
their
effort,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
mike
kimberly,
who
last
week
served
as
interim
city
manager,
while
I
was
on
vacation
for
him
and
all
the
staff
as
they
dealt
with
and
assisted
you
with
the
committee
of
the
whole
so
appreciate
all
of
them,
and
please
be
patient
with
me,
as
I
continue
to
get
caught
up
after
being
off
for
a
week.
So
thank
you.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
I'll,
be
appropriately
brief
as
well.
The
I
usually
try
to
at
least
give
a
moment
or
two
on
the
mayoral
open
house
that
we
had,
and
last
friday
we
had
14
people
plus
myself
and
staff
that
came
to
the
open
house.
We
had
pretty
wide
ranging
discussion
not
as
much
on
what
we
were
dealing
with
this
evening
other
than
there
were
some
people
who
were
quite
concerned
about
having
their
cars
towed
and
the
confusing
signage.
B
But
we
did
talk
about
our
transparency,
ordinance
policy,
what
that
might
be,
and
obviously
the
citizens
academy
the
status
of
that
or
some
of
the
questions
that
we
had.
I
want
to
thank
in
advance
all
the
and
mayor
pro
tem
karen
schmidt
and
rob
fazzini,
who
will
be
at
the
groundbreaking
that
I
really
want
to
be
at
on
wednesday,
but
I
cannot
attend.
I
encourage
all
of
you
to
attend.
B
It
is
a
groundbreaking
for
our
route
66
visitors
center-
that
has
been
now
well
really
well
over
a
year
in
the
making,
and
it
was
alderman
fazzini
and
I
were
speaking
with
greg
koos
at
the
history
museum
who
had
a
a
museum
grant
rejected-
and
this
was
I
think,
in
early
june
or
so
of
last
year
and
he's
they
rejected,
because
they
said
it
was
economic
development
and
we
said
darn
right.
B
Its
economic
development
maybe
used
a
couple
other
expletives
and
let's
move
with
economic
development
and
again
this
project
had
so
many
so
many
times
that
it
died
and
got
resurrected
and
died
and
got
resurrected.
And
finally,
it's
coming
to
fruition.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
thing,
so
I
will
be
for
nine
days.
B
First
time
since
I've
been
mayor
I'll
be
out
of
town
for
nine
days,
some
people
will
probably
be
thrilled
and
I'm
I
shudder
to
think
the
email
box
that
I'm
going
to
have
when
I
come
back
since
I
get
200
to
300
emails
a
day,
but
anyway,
hopefully
I'll
come
back
with
some
new
perspective.
I
also,
let's
see,
I
think,
I've.
I
think
I've,
oh
scott,
you're,
going
to
handle
the
open
house,
the
one
that
I'm
going
to
miss
I'll,
be
back
for
the
meeting,
but
you'll
handle
the
open
house.
B
I
will
start
with,
although.
K
K
A
comment
I
we're
going
to
again
annually,
as
we
do
invite
a
number
of
new
residents
and
and
temporary
residents
to
normal
and
in
downtown
bloomington
as
we
do
seasonally,
and
I
we
just
need
to
be
mindful
of
the
fact
that
we've
got
public
service
workers
out
there
that
are
in
danger,
having
known
and
and
been
friends
with
the
family
of
casey
colemier
it.
It
brings
to
mind
what
could
happen
and
surely
I
I
I'm
sure
that
won't
happen
again.
K
I'm
sure
that
the
other
instance
that
that
happened
in
in
relation
to
that
type
of
activity
won't
happen
again
in
the
near
future,
either
in
our
in
our
location,
but
again,
there's
an
awful
lot
of
changes
that
happen
to
our
community
in
a
short
period
of
time,
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
that.
We
also
are
exposing
an
awful
lot
of
our
public
service
service
workers
in
in
the
road
construction
that
we
have
not
had
a
number
of
years.
K
At
the
same
time,
and
so
again
you
know,
I
would
just
ask
our
entire
community
that
we
need
to
work
towards
being
a
team
here
and
and
keeping
it
safe.
Thanks.
E
Just
a
comment
about
the
the
sewer
issue:
I
got
quite
a
few
calls
from
citizens
this
week
regarding
the
concept
of
the
citizens
paying
paying
for
sewer
work
beyond
their
particular.
You
know
land
be
where
the
public
right
away
begins
and
the
comments
I
got
in
emails
and
so
on.
People
are
deeply
concerned.
E
E
Are
they
really
going
to
ask
us
to
pay
for
that,
or
even
think
about
asking
us
to
pay
for
the
part
of
the
sewer
work
that
really
goes
into
the
public
right-of-way
and
frankly,
I
got
some
pretty
unhappy
citizens
out
there
that
we
would
even
consider
something
like
that,
particularly
in
the
older
parts
of
town,
where
the
sewers
are
perhaps
arguably
more
prone
to
to
break
or
to
you
know,
crack
or
whatever
it
is
they
do.
E
We
certainly
don't
want
to
do
anything
to
discourage
investment
in
the
older
houses.
We
talk
about
economic
development
all
the
time,
but
do
we
think
of
those
homeowners
who
are
willing
to
go
into
the
older
neighborhoods
and
then
just
do
an
incredible
investment
in
making
those
neighborhoods
better?
E
I
don't
think
we
want
to
discourage
that
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
not
for
district
87,
not
for
our
property
values
in
in
the
inner
city.
It's
really
it's
really
concerning.
So
I
know
we're
going
forward
with
that
discussion,
but
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
had
a
number
of
calls
and
emails
on
that
subject.
Thank
you.
B
Just
one
real
quick
clarification:
it's
our
ordinance,
isn't
it
isn't
it
is
it
by
ordinance
that
people
are
responsible?
Yes,
so
we'd
have
to
change
the
ordinance
and
then
obviously
budget
quite
a
bit
of
money.
For
that,
no,
we
went
forward.
G
E
E
Just
to
follow
up
on
that,
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up
judy.
I
missed
the
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
last
monday,
and
that
was
the
one
single
topic
that
I
got
feedback
from
from
older
neighborhoods
of
saying.
Why
would
you
penalize
me
when
I'm
I'm
trying
to
raise
my
property
values
in
my
neighborhood?
So
I
I
think
that's
going
to
be
kind
of
a
critical
community
conversation.