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August 14, 2017 - City Council Special Session
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A
A
We're
gonna
go
ahead
and
call
the
continuing
meeting
of
the
blooming
special
Bloomington
City
Council
to
order
and
could
I
have
a
motion
to
come
back
into
regular
open
session
and
continue
our
discussion
on
the
agenda
moved
by
all
the
woman
painter.
Is
there
a
second
I'll,
second,
that
second
by
all-woman
Bray?
Madam
clerk,
would
you
call
the
roll
Roger
membrane?
Yes,
Mathi?
A
Yes,
arguments
a
yes!
Yes,
yes,
alderman
painter,
yes,
Schmidt
alderman
black!
Yes,
yes,
okay!
So
we're
back
in
session
just
to
clarify
we
are
not
voting
on
anything.
This
is
these.
These
two
items
are
purely
for
discussion
purposes
at
this
point,
but
the
first
is
one
that
I
think
has
received
a
lot
of
attention
and
some
misinformation
I'd
like
to
just
clarify-
and
that
is
the
hiring
of
a
mineral
aid
staff
person.
Staff
support.
A
Doesn't
the
the
position
description
here
is
one
that
I
prefer
not
to
focus
on
right
now,
because
I
want
to
focus
on
the
memo
that
I
had
sent
out
in
terms
of
what
I
was
thinking
and
what
many
other
mayors
and
others
that
I
had
talked
about,
and
that
is
at
one
level.
It
is
the
case
that
the
city
of
Bloomington
has
changed
dramatically
in
the
role
of
the
mayor
has
changed
dramatically.
A
My
good
friend
Karl
Rove
Estella,
who
held
this
position
in
a
city
manager,
formal
government
that
gave
the
mayor
much
less
authority
than
the
current
mayor.
Well,
not
the
current
mayor,
then
the
mayor
of
Bloomington
helvis
positions
for
many
years,
and
one
of
the
things
he
said
is
I
talked
to
the
council,
far
more
than
I
talked
to
the
mayor.
So
it's
not
just
the
mayor,
it's
it's
an
elected
officials
position
and,
as
on
the
so-called
political
policymaking
side
of
the
continuum.
A
If
there's
this
continuum
between
politics
and
administration
and
I
think
as
alderman
sage
sometimes
calls
it
the
the
what
and
the
how
it's
not
like
oil
and
water
right,
that's
the
way
it
was
pitched
when
the
city
manager
form
a
government
almost
a
hundred
years
ago
was
first
proposed.
People
who
are
in
the
real
world
don't
believe
that
they
realized
that
there's
a
blending
of
it.
A
If
you
read
a
9th
grade,
or
even
a
college
textbook
that
tells
you
what
city
manager
and
mayor
council
forms
of
government
you
may
as
well
throw
that
out
the
trash
can
because
it's
just
not
how
the
real
world
works,
and
by
that
I
mean
there
are
very
few
pure
city
manager,
forms
of
government
whatever
that
is
and
there
there
are.
However,
some
pure
mayor
council
forms
of
government,
but
they
almost
all
have
city
managers.
They
call
them
city
administrators,
so
you
have
the
need
for
professional
management.
A
No
matter
where
you
are,
you
certainly
had
the
need
for
an
elected
chief
executive,
no
matter
where
you
are,
and
sometimes
I
feel,
like
the
chief
executive
on
the
continuum
of
things
is
not
much
more
than
a
figurehead,
a
person
who
chairs
the
City
Council
meeting
and
goes
to
ceremonial
functions
like
the
mayor
of
Beverly
Hills,
I
love,
the
various
mayors
of
Beverly
Hills.
Everything
else
is
a
great
place
when
I
go
to
US
Conference
of
Mayors.
A
Just
when
you
get
to
know
somebody
they're
gone
because
they
come
from
the
City
Council,
the
City
Council
chooses
one
of
their
colleagues.
Well,
that's
the
weakest
form
right.
You
have
someone
which
is
the
highest
vote.
Getter,
who
is
a
city
councilman,
there's
some
world
authority,
because
your
bias
vote
getter
and
it's
at-large
and
then
there's
a
version
of
you
have
in
normal
where
everybody's
elected
at-large,
but
the
mayor
is
elected
separately,
has
some
appointment
powers
you
go
along
mayor
of
Champaign,
most
of
the
council
selected
by
districts.
Some
are
elected,
at-large
has
no.
A
Veto
has
certainly
denied
a
light
on
veto.
The
mayor
of
Bloomington
certainly
fits
what
we
would
call
an
empowered
mayor
city
manager,
form
of
government
most
strong
mayor's,
don't
even
have
a
wioa
veto.
The
mayor
of
Bloomington
has
a
line-item
veto
in
addition
to
a
veto.
Most
mayors,
71%
of
Mayors,
don't
even
have
vetoes
now.
What
my
main
point
there
is
the
the
concern
I
think
that
some
have
said
between
council-manager
form
of
government.
It's
philosophy
is
we've
gone
way
beyond
that
in
practical
realities
we
most
cities
have
realized.
A
You
don't
give
an
unelected
bureaucrat
too
much
power
and
you
don't
give
your
elected
executive
too
much
power.
You
figured
out
a
way
and
we
need
professional
executives.
Even
when
you
have
an
elected
executive
because
sometimes
that
elected
executive,
what
I
want
to
say,
especially
in
Illinois,
tend
to
be
people
who
need
help
and
earn,
perhaps
not
even
qualified
for
the
position
and
thank
God
for
the
equivalent
of
city
manager,
city
administrators
who
come
in
so
anyway.
The
the
that's
the
the
particular
backdrop
here,
I
focus
rather
on
my
email,
not
my
email.
A
My
cover
memo,
because
that's
what
I
had
in
mind
some
of
this
stuff,
the
actual
material
came
from
going
to
other
cities,
some
cities
that
are
not
really
directly
comparable
to
us,
as
staff
did
their
due
diligence
in
going
to
many
other.
You
know
communities,
but
certainly
in
terms
of
its
core
assistant,
mayor
and
council,
in
formulating
policies
and
projects.
That's
on
the
policy
side.
This
is
not
a
chief
of
staff.
A
Winter
chief
of
staff
would
clearly
be
to
some
of
that,
but
would
also
be
on
the
administrative
side
acts
as
a
liaison,
and
this
is
critical
to
residents
of
Bloomington
city
elected
officials
of
the
local
governments,
district
87
unit,
5
County
officials-
that
you
could
go
on
with
all
this.
We
have
a
hundred
ninety
two
local
governments
in
McLean
County,
that's
another
beef
of
contention
that
a
number
of
you
at
least
it
used
to
be
the
exact
number
of
nation
states
in
the
UN.
A
So
I
don't
think
we
really
need
the
number
of
governments
we
have
in
the
entire
world
to
deliver
public
services
in
McClain
County
another
bone
in
contention,
but
we
obviously
local
businesses,
community
groups,
federal
state
agencies,
especially
I
dot,
and
on
behalf
of
the
office
of
the
mayor,
but
assist
with
constituent
services
for
both
mayor
and
council
on
an
as-needed
basis,
and
that's
a
really
an
important
point.
People
deserve
to
have
their.
A
A
We
can't
always
do
that
know,
but
certainly
we
but
citizens
deserve
at
least
an
answer
as
to
why
and
as
quick
as
possible,
and
one
thing
that
we
leave
on
the
table
that
I
see
every
year
is
the
fourth
item,
and
that
is
research
and
submit
grants
available
through
organizations
such
as
the
US
Conference
of
Mayors,
former
Charleston
Mayor
Joseph
O'reilly
national
foundation,
and
he
is
by
the
way,
the
ultimate
former
mayor.
Well,
thank
you.
All.
A
The
woman
painter
he
was
the
longest-serving
Metro
mayor
ever
he
was
elected
in
1974,
he
stepped
down
last
year
and
unfortunately,
for
him,
one
of
his
last
acts
was
having
to
deal
with
the
the
tragedy
in
Charleston,
but
he
set
up
a
foundation
that
is
deals
with
all
kinds
of
issues
that
cities
face,
and
he
certainly
knows
them
and
only
mayor's
can
apply
for
grants.
Just
at
the
US
Conference
of
Mayors
now
I
have
talked
to
Nora,
and
this
is
not
in
the
slightest
criticism
of
Nora.
A
Nora
is
busier
than
she's,
always
all
over
the
place
a
couple
times
about
well,
hey,
let's,
let's
apply
for
this
kind
of
grant
and
then
we
both
are
occupied
with
other
things
and
it
you
know,
we,
you
know
essentially
never
happens
and,
of
course,
the
National
League
of
Cities.
Again,
as
I've
mentioned,
should
we
leave
many
grants
on
the
table,
providing
also
effective
communication
between
the
mayor
city,
council,
city
staff
and
external
actors,
and
that's
really
an
important
component
that
is
gonna
slip
through
the
cracks,
as
I've
said,
to
the
City
Council
many
times.
A
If
everything
has
to
come
through
me,
or
maybe
sometimes
a
staff
member
there's
going
to
be
Swiss,
cheese
with
really
big
holes
and
communication
is
as
soon
as
I've
learned
as
mayor,
really
really
critical,
providing
strategic
scheduling
for
mayor
and
council
to
make
more
effective
uses
our
time
and
our
current
staff
does
a
great
job
of
scheduling.
There's
a
difference,
though,
between
scheduling
a
strategic
scheduling.
If
I've
got
seven
people
who
want
to
talk
to
me
not
unusual
on
this
particular
subject,
somebody
who
is
plugged
in
they
go
to
City
Council
meetings.
A
They
know
what's
going
on.
If
there
are
seven
people,
they
know
hey.
These
three
people
play
nicely
together
and
the
mayor
can
meet
with
the
three
of
them
together,
but
not
until
he's
met
or
potentially
she
fourth
and
fifth
people,
and
then
six
and
seven
can
come
afterwards.
So
it's
it's!
It's
not
just.
Oh
okay,
don't
load
the
mayor
schedule
up
there,
a
strategic
scheduling,
that's
involved.
You
know
with
that
as
well
and
frankly,
tracking
the
mayor
on
going
whether
I'm
good,
never
ask
Tricia
or
anybody
else.
It's
not
Tricia,
Tricia,
say
I'm.
A
Sorry,
I
wouldn't
ask
you
either
Tricia
I
apologize
bad
mayor.
I
would
never
ask
nor
anybody
else
to
go
with
me
to
the
EDC
or
a
chamber
event
or
anything
locally
or
the
Illinois
Municipal
League
or
whatever
remind
me
not
to
screw
this
up
and
follow
up
yeah.
These
people
need
me
to
follow
up
and
then
great
ideas.
Can
you
remind
me
of
that?
So
that's
part
of
it.
The
other
is
strategic
tracking
and
advice
on
appointments
and
on
boards
and
commissions
and
I.
A
Think
we've
we've
come
a
long
way
and
it
I
don't
mean
to
say
just
this
is
not
just
because
I've
been
mayor.
We've
come
a
long
way
in
openness
and
transparency
and
the
responsiveness
to
citizens.
We
had
an
F
from
the
Illinois
Policy
Institute.
We
have
an
a-plus
and
we're
award-winning
in
openness
and
transparency
that
also
comes
at
a
cost
and
in
terms
of
time
and
energy
in
responding.
It
also
is
the
case
that,
as
being
responsive
takes
time,
energy
and
frankly,
over
the
last
several
election
cycles.
Three
election
cycles
I've
been
mayor.
A
Our
council
has
done
a
much
better
job
than
they
did
three
councils
ago
at
responding
to
decision
concerns,
come
and
I
wanted
to
say,
complaint,
something
they
just
want
some
information,
some
ideas
and
yes,
I,
think
we've
come
a
long
way.
I
would
say:
we've
come
from
probably
a
D
to
a
B+.
You
know
a
number
odd
range
I
think
we
can.
Even
you
know,
go
better.
A
That
was
the
the
impetus
behind
this
and
that
if,
from
that
point,
I
want
to
just
open
this
up
for
thoughts,
feedback
counterpoints,
the
by
the
way,
the
idea
of
the
political
had
nothing
to
do
with
me.
When
I
talk
to
other
matters,
they
said
well,
do
you
want
to
do
you
want
to
mess
up
your
successor,
and
that
is
you
know
whoever
Falls
me
because
I'm
sure
not
going
to
be
mayor
forever.
A
You
know
maybe
another
three
in
some
years,
if,
let's
say
I
in
a
council
agree
on
somebody,
the
next
may
or
may
not
want
that
person.
The
met
next
may
or
may
have
a
different
policy
agenda,
and
so
that
is
part
of
what
I
would
regard
as
democratic
accountability.
Certainly
would
be
no
skin
off
my
back
if
the
council
decided
hey,
let's
just
make
it
a
staff
position,
I
thought
that
that
was
important
for
the
next
mayor
and
the
mayor
after
that
and,
frankly,
not
so
much
the
mayor,
its
democratic
accountability.
A
When
you
elect
your
mayor,
they
run
on
a
platform.
We
hope
right.
We
hope
that
they're
running
to
actually
do
something,
especially
in
our
changing
dynamic
community,
if
they're
running
to
actually
do
something
to
actually
move
our
community
in
different
direction
and
the
citizens
have
voted
for
that
direction.
That
mayor
and
council
ought
to
be
empowered
and
that's
that's
the
the
at
five
hundred
feet.
That's
the
logic
behind
this
anything
else.
The
wording
of
something
there's
no
point
in
my
from
my
perspective,
getting
involved
in
the
the
wording
of
it.
Some
have
suggested.
A
A
Maybe
a
compromise
could
be
a
part-time
position
or
a
contractual
position
where
there
are
no
benefits
at
some
point,
though,
whether
it's
now
it
may
be
it'll
be
when
I
leave
as
I'm
leaving
office,
we've
got
to
get
real
because
it's
the
nature,
this
community
is
very
different.
The
responsibilities
are
very
different
than
they
have
been
in
the
past,
as
many
of
the
mayor's
have
noted
and
I
think
the
citizens
will
benefit
it's
not
just
that.
Okay,
only
Taipei
mayor's,
who
are
like
Roger
Rabbit
on
speed
like
me,
can
be
mayor's.
There
are
people.
A
A
This
is
the
first
public
conversation
as
a
council
about
this,
no
matter
what
no
actions
taken
tonight.
This
is
just
a
first
attempt.
I
do
want
to
establish
if
you're
mayor
you've
always
got
to
have
a
plan,
B
C,
D
and
E,
and
maybe
even
further,
if
this
is
something
that
at
least
at
this
point
is
not
there's
not
a
majority
support
on
the
council,
I
would
recommend
and
and
I
can't
tell
the
council
they
have
to
do
that.
They
can
do
whatever
they
want
to
do.
A
They're
all
free
agents,
but
the
areas
that
really
would
critically
need
some
liaisons
with
elected
officials
and
that
doesn't
have
to
be
the
mayor.
Mostly
the
mayor
does
not
have
to
be
the
mayor.
So
as
a
political
science,
I
call
this
devolved
federalism
and
there
are
certain
types
of
tasks
that
I
have
here
and
I
have
asked
several
different.
Well,
all
the
Ottoman
assigned
possible
tasks
for
them
to
be
kind
of
the
liaison.
Some
of
the
more
you
are
in
a
couple
of
cases
to
certain
areas.
A
One
is
Housing,
Authority
and
being
Realtors
and
I've
asked
Scott
black
if
he
would
be
interested
in
he's
already
on
well
you're,
actually
on
the
CVB
I've
got
you
down
there
with
Karen.
Excuse
me
Kim
on
that,
but
anyway,
historic,
preservation,
Jaime
intergovernmental
relations
and
that
involved
district
87
unit
five
whatever
this
is.
This
is
just
me:
I
am
NOT.
Talking
about
I'm,
sorry
I
mean
I
have
not
said.
One
word
about
yeah,
so
I
will
hand
this
around.
This
is
this
is
a
this.
A
Jamie
has
some
background
inter-governmental
relations
and
the
Boca
you'll,
probably
stab
me
in
the
chest,
with
an
ice
pick
but
district
87
unit,
5,
County,
Public,
Building,
Commission,
VIN
word
and
other
authorities
except
airport
code
enforcement,
EDC,
downtown
Emilia
Burgas
is
already
a
rep
to
EDC
library,
downtown
Emilia
and
Karen
Johnny
and
me
Boca
human
resources
and
diversity.
That's
an
important
point
right
now:
Liquor
Commission
Diana
already
is
connect
transit
and
I
dot.
That's
an
absolutely
critical
set
of
linkages.
A
A
Whether
it's
public
safety
venue
works,
public
works
chamber
be
an
advantage.
It's
critical
that
an
elected
official
be
there
and
sometimes
they're,
not
gonna
want
to
talk
to
a
council
member,
no
disrespect
to
council
members.
They
want
to
talk
to
the
mayor,
and
if
that
council
person
can
say
hey,
you
know,
Joe
Smith
wants
to
talk
to
you.
A
That
makes
things
a
lot
easier
and
it's
they
realize
they
have
more
relationships
with
more
than
just
the
mayor
as
an
elected
official
having
elected
officials
at
the
table
with
critical
policy
issues
that
face
our
community
I
think
is
essential
and
one
person
can't
do
it.
I,
don't
care
who
you
are
one
person
can't
do
it
so
again.
This
is
just
one
of
many
possibilities
that
might
be
out
there
in
the
future.
A
Other
discussions,
I've
been
just
notified
by
our
clerk
judiciously
to
shut
up
she's
very
nice.
You
have
another
item
that
has
20
minutes
and
then
this
this
can
continue.
Obviously
but
alderman
sage,
yeah,
I,
guess
I
would
just
say
that
that
I
guess
I'm
a
little
surprised,
and/or
disappointed
that
we
would
hear
about
this.
Maybe
others
have
heard
about
this.
A
Okay
and
obviously
we're
going
to
disagree
on
that,
the
the
reasons
for
it,
one
I
just
came
up
with
this
list
this
afternoon.
This
is
one
of
many
items
and,
frankly,
this
is
how
you
know
a
policymaking.
Sometimes
is
it's
done?
You
throw
ideas
out
on
the
table
as
Thomas
Jefferson
used
to
say
you
throw
ideas
out
on
the
table
and
let
reasons
sort
them
out.
There's
nothing!
That's
committing
anybody
on
here.
This
is
one
of
many
items
that
could
conceivably
be
done
and
I'm
glad
I
didn't
make
it
as
clear.
A
Yes,
I
did
come
up
with
this
this
afternoon.
There
is
also
a
benefit
all
on
this
AG
and
unrest
at
aldermen
to
having
this,
and
that
is,
it
begins
to
illuminate
the
responsibilities
of
a
mayor
and
I
have
made
been
a
department
chair,
for
example,
for
many
many
years
on
and
off,
but
I
have
some
idea
what
it
is
to
be.
President
of
Illinois,
Wesleyan,
University,
I
really
don't
know
until
I've
been
there,
and
so
this
has
got
a
multiple
purposes.
One
is
to
propose
a
possibility.
A
Another
is
to
clarify
the
areas
where
I
believe
after
having
been
mayor
for
four
years
in
several
months,
that
we
do
need
some
elected
officials
representing
us,
and
these
involve
a
variety
of
different
things
chamber
being
advantages.
They
use
not
one
thing
right:
the
intergovernmental
relations.
It's
not
one
thing.
There
are
several
organizations,
so
it's
not
in
your
packet
and
I
apologize
that
it
did
not
occur
to
me
as
of
Thursday,
but
I
wouldn't
be
as
open
as
I.
Can?
Yes
did
I
spring
it
on
you?
Yes,
is
it
a
proposal?
A
It's
not
tangible
enough
to
be
a
proposal.
It's
an
idea
and
and
I
I
don't
apologize
for
putting
ideas
out
on
the
table,
even
if
they
are
last-minute
ideas,
especially
if
it
has
something
to
do
with
what
we're
doing
the
two
things
that
I
would
recommend.
Council
and
those
are
macro
level
goals
as
much
as
possible.
I
think
people
do
this
now
return
phone
calls
and
emails
within
48
hours
from
citizens
or
businesses
or
make
that
possibility.
A
Sometimes
you
can't
see
out
of
town
but
I
think
that's
a
reasonable
goal
and
then
handle
one
open
house.
Every
nine
months
months
to
hear
citizen
engagement
and
concerns,
if
I
can
do
18
of
them
in
nine
months,
I,
don't
think
it's
unreasonable
for
to
ask
a
city
council
member
to
do
one
during
that
period
of
time
and
then,
if
I
haven't
I,
have
no
idea
the
Oh
anyway,
and
if
I
have
it,
we
haven't
done
a
deep
dive
in
let's
say
six
weeks.
A
Please
communication
has
to
go
both
ways:
what
let's
schedule
a
launch
of
some
forum
where
we
do
a
deep
dive
on
what's
going
on,
I'm
a
Scot
and
go
around?
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
haven't
seen
a
put
in
this
form
before
so
I.
Don't
can't
react
to
that,
but
I.
What
was
in
the
packet
and
I'm
not
asking
for
reaction?
Oh
okay,
tonight
sure.
A
A
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
when
I
was
involved
in
the
citizen
engagement
committee
a
couple
years
ago
and
with
a
with
a
resident
and
a
couple
staff
members
and
a
couple
different
aldermen,
just
time
and
time
again,
people
are
looking
to
us
for
higher
levels
of
customer
service,
with
with
fewer
resources
that
we
have
available
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
times
we
get
we
get
up
here.
We
talk
about
policies,
proposals.
You
know,
I
saw
this,
it's
interesting
article.
You
know
we
should
try
as
in
the
city.
A
Perhaps
this
person
could
be
a
an
expert,
a
you
know,
kind
of
an
advocate
for
the
process,
not
the
the
project
per
se
to
help
Shepherd
those
through
and
I'm
I
guess
my
only
reaction
to
the
she
just
gave
out
all
the
different
tasks
that
the
mayor's
involved
in
I
tend
to
find
the
stumbling
block.
Being
that
you
know,
we
may
have
a
good
conversation
with
somebody
at
one
of
these
sorts
of
events,
but
where
do
you
go
from
there
and
how
do
you
translate
that
into
action?
A
And
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
face
is
project
management
and
staff
is,
is
stretched
with
all
of
the
demands
of
their
time
and
our
asks
for
additional
analysis,
so
I'm
interested
in
considering
this
I
don't
I'd,
be
curious
to
know
how
and
looking
at
the
the
job
descriptions
you
have
put
together
and
then
you're
then
the
other
formal
one
the
city
had
put
together.
I,
don't
know
how
that
could
be
a
part-time
position
without
crossing
offs
and
some
things,
but
I
guess
that
would
prove
itself
in
time.
A
A
This
was
an
interesting
idea
when
I
looked
at
your
proposal
and
when
I
analyzed
the
job
description
that
Nicole
worked
so
hard
on
I
found
that
everything
that
fast
for
is
already
provided
or
could
be
provided
by
our
very
hard-working
staff
or
the
council.
I
just
I,
don't
see
where
this
is
necessary
for
that
and
I.
Don't
really
think
you
need
someone
to
follow
you
around.
A
In
most
cases,
the
issue
of
having
support
staff
for
the
mayor
depends
on
the
local
budgetary
situation
and
we're
glaring
at
looming
structural
deficit.
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
really
careful
about.
You
know
how
we
proceed
with
this
and,
if
perchance,
this
gets
voted
in.
I
also
strongly
believe
that
it
should
be
a
posted
position
where
applicants
are
evaluated
on
their
qualifications
and
not
appointed.
Thank
you.
A
One
thing
I'm
not
going
to
tell
you,
is
that
this
efficient
position
will
pay
for
itself.
I
hope
so,
but
I
can't
I
wouldn't
promise
that
in
terms
of
new
grants
and
whatever
that
are
demonstrable
and
the
other
things
is,
if
you
have
somebody
who's
really
good,
they
can
make
the
wheels
of
government
more
efficient.
That's
my
own
response,
all
the
woman!
Thank
you
and
the
money
is
the
issue.
A
Thank
you,
I
mean,
obviously
the
expectations
of
the
duties
the
mayor
will
perform
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
are
high.
The
expectations
for
council
are
high,
I
run
into
residents,
who
believe
I
have
a
full-time
staff
and
that
I
do
this
job
full-time
and
that
I
should
be
accessible.
Full-Time
and
I.
Would
love
love
to
be
able
to
provide
that
and
I
do
my
best
under
the
constraints.
I
have
to
be
as
responsive
as
possible,
but
those
expectations
are
out
there.
A
I
would
like
to
see
a
mayoral
position
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
that
is
accessible
to
a
large
number
of
potential
candidates,
so
we
can
continue
to
have
diverse
representation,
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
very
important
conversation
to
have.
Obviously
I
think
we
need
to
spend
more
time
on
it,
but
thank
you
all
of
them.
No
one
way,
I
think
I.
You
know
I,
just
like
everybody
else.
I
received
a
lot
of
feedback
about
this
and
I.
The
feedback
really
wasn't
positive
and
I
should
probably
say
that
it
was
negative.
A
Many
of
my
constituents
were
not
interested
in
it
I.
You
know,
for
many
reasons
and
I'm
to
be
honest,
I,
you
know
I
would
struggle.
You
know
to
try
to
justify
it
to
them.
You
know
because
they
talked
about
you
know
we've,
you
know
we
we've
laid
I,
guess
the
the
groundwork
or
set
up
a
narrative
where
we've
talked
about
structural
deficits
and
then
to
come,
and
on
top
of
that,
you
know
to
to
add
another
staffing
position
makes
that
very
hard
to
to
justify
the
the
you
know.
A
The
liaison
idea
that
you
just
brought
up
I
I,
think
we
can
debate
about.
You
know
the
fact
that
well
it's
at
the
last
hour
and
and
how
it's
brought
forward,
but
I
I,
do
think
you
know.
I
I
would
like
to
see
that
discussion
happen
sooner
than
just
at
this
very
moment
where
we,
we
would
have
a
a
more
a
more
I
guess,
open
discussion.
Rather
than
going
to
a
specific
idea
of
me
or
wait.
You
know
I
I
mean
in
my
opinion
we
should
have
just
said.
A
You
know
here
are
the
issues
and
the
concerns
and
what
are
the
possibilities?
How
do
we
resolve
this
particular
issue?
Because
when
you,
when
you
start
to
add
a
staff,
member
and
I
think
well,
you
know
this
will
kind
of
lead
into
our
next
discussion
as
well.
You
know
the
public
will
rightfully
so
start
to
ask.
You
know
what
am
I
getting
for
this
particular
staff
position.
You
know
how
effective
is
that
staff
position
going
to
be,
and
we
we
have
to
be
able
to
to
demonstrate
that
and
oftentimes
with
administrative
positions
anywhere.
A
That
is
always
the
challenge
to
be
able
to
make
that
argument
to
two
people.
So
you
know,
I
saw
our
wait,
we'll
see
where
the
discussion
goes,
but
I.
You
know
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I,
think
and
just
representing
the
views
of
people
in
my
in
my
ward,
I
I.
Don't
think
we
should
go
with
the
mirror
or
aid.
Okay,
oh
and
just
once
again,
to
really
I.
Don't
expect
you
to
give
any
feedback
to
this.
This
is
just
an
idea.
All
in
this
age.
A
Did
you
say
a
few
minutes
ago
mayor
that
there
is
not
majority
support
on
the
council.
For
this
you
had
concluded
that
yes,
okay,
so
I'm,
again
I'm
Laura
before
the
position
is
presented
yeah
for
the
mayoral,
a
position
so
so
again,
I
want
to
be
very
clear
because
I
see
this
play
out
numerous
times,
but
if
their
majority
of
the
council
is
not
in
favor
of
this,
then
why
are
we
going
I
hear
others
suggesting?
Well,
we
need
to
continue
the
conversation
about
the
mayoral
aide.
A
What
I'm
suggesting
is,
if
there's
not
majority
support
for
this
on
the
council,
then
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
taken
off
the
the
plate
for
staff.
We
don't
need
to
have
continuing
conversations
about
about
the
mayoral.
Eight
right,
well,
I
would
say.
First
of
all,
I,
don't
think,
there's
much
more
that
the
staff
isn't
going
to
be
needing
to
do
on
this.
Second
I,
don't
know
that
I
heard
that
we
should
have
continued
discussion
about
the
mayoral
aide,
but
the
situation
and,
if
there's
not
I'm,
not
bringing
this
for
a
vote.
A
If,
if
there's
not
some
majority
support,
let's
make
that
part
clear,
but
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
this
conversation
wasn't
worth
having
well
again
we're
throwing
ideas
out
about
how
we
might
move.
Sometimes
that's
how
policies
made
right.
You
know
you
know.
Sometimes
you
throw
an
idea
out.
Maybe
it's
not
ripe.
Maybe
you
talk
about
it
again.
Maybe
you
talk
about
it
again,
and
maybe
you
come
up
with
a
compromise
and
I'm
and
I'm
willing
to
have
those
conversations
on
items
where
there
is
majority
support.
The
council
is
my
concern.
A
While,
while
we're
having
some
conversation
about
about
trying
to
throw
something
up
against
the
wall
of
an
idea,
I'd
rather
see
us
focus
going
forward
on
on
Council
time
and
staff
time
devoted
to
prioritized
items
with
majority
support
of
the
council.
I,
don't
think
we
could
have
determined
until
we
had
information
that
there
wasn't
majority
support
on
the
council
I'm
until
we
had
the
information
in
front
of
us
I,
don't
know
how
you
could
make
that
determination.
Unless
I
said,
hey
I've
got
this
idea
yeah.
A
We
we
have
to
move
away
from
putting
things
on
the
agenda
that
do
not
have
majority
council
support,
but
sometimes
you've
got
to
get
information
to
determine
that
it's
the
only
thing
I
would
say
is
I
mean
they
go
on
the
agenda.
Thank
you.
Well,
this
is
not
an
end.
This
is
and
we're
discussing
this.
This
is
not
a
vote
and
I
think
that
sometimes
you
have
to
have
those
kinds
of
discussions
to
determine
it.
All
the
woman
Hollen
carry
it
in
light
of
time.
A
I
think
we
need
to
conversation,
perhaps
in
our
strategic
planning
meeting
in
November
we
can.
We
can
come
back.
This
we've
got
to
do
another.
One
and
cherry
did
send
me
another
note,
so
we
will
move
on.
Okay,
shoot
I'm,
sorry,
I
mixed
up
the
diamonds
we
have
one
more
and
that
is
the
establishment
of
Downtown
Development
Division
within
the
community
development
department,
presentation
by
city
manager,
Hales
and
mr.
A
Rasmussen
for
five
minutes,
and
then
we
may
need
to
try
to
make
also
the
council
discussion
quicker,
but
we'll
see
how
this
goes
and
mayor
if
I
could,
in
the
interest
of
time
at
7
minutes
to
7
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
can
really
do
the
next
topic
justice.
If,
if
we
keep
the
time
constraint
to
5
or
7
minutes,
we
could
reschedule
it.
A
We
do
have
a
full
Genda
for
the
committee
of
the
whole,
but
we
could
still
try
and
squeeze
that
in
either
then
or
on
the
28th,
but
anyway
I
just
throw
that
out,
see
which
I
wonder
if
you
could
in
the
time
that
we,
let's
say
in
about
five
minutes
to
few
presentations.
Five
minutes
mm-hmm
and
there
are
people
who
come
here.
For
this
reason,
could
you
give
us
just
a
quick
overview
of
this
yeah
love
you
now
Steve
is
going.
A
You
know
if
we,
if
we
start
two
minutes
later,
Rome
won't
fall,
but
just
a
little
bit
of
an
idea,
because
I
know
some
people
have
come
here.
For
this
very
reason,
let
me
have
assistant
city
manager,
Stephen
Rasmussen,
to
kind
of
give
us
just
a
brief
overview
in
about
five
minutes
on.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
Hales
and
I
have
only
five
slides
here.
A
What
the
idea
here
behind
this
is,
and
it's
something
that
the
City
Council
has
talked
about
as
long
ago,
I
think
as
our
off-site
at
the
airport
last
year.
But
there
are
three
basic
pieces
of
this.
What
happens
is
the
first
is
the
operations,
and
that
is
the
current
downtown.
Bloomington
Association
would
continue
to
exist
as
this
as
an
advisory
board
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
money
on
that
in
a
moment.
But
then
the
activities
that
the
downtown
Bloomington
Association
does
now
would
move
to
community
development
as
we
propose
it.
A
As
a
Downtown,
Development
Division,
and
that's
kind
of
like
the
division
that
we
have
in
the
community
development
now,
which
is
the
City
Planning
Division
and
there's
the
Economic
Development
the
division,
this
would
be
another
division
that
would
specifically
concentrate
on
the
cities
priority
of
developing
the
downtown.
There
are
only
two
employees
that
are
full-time
there.
Those
two
employees
then
would
move
to
the
Community
Development
Department
and
we
have
places
for
them
in
the
government
center.
A
So
we
don't
need
to
get
any
more
additional
room
and
then
we
do
not
have
to
end
up
paying
rent
for
this
organization.
Downtown
and
I
know
we'd
talk
about
money,
and
that
has
come
up
before
and
I've
heard
it
talked
about
a
little
bit
in
the
media,
but
the
current
that
downtown
Bloomington
associations
funded
by
the
city
at
$90,000,
the
new
Downtown
Development
Division,
would
be
funded
at
the
to
72.
A
Now
the
new
money
would
be
182
because
currently
the
city
funds,
the
downtown
Bloomington
Association,
almost
entirely
at
ninety
thousand
dollars,
but
that
then,
would
be
an
increase
of
a
hundred
and
eighty
two
I
was
talking
to
finance
director
and
we
were
working
through
these
numbers.
We
talked
about
the
current
DBA
being
funded
at
ninety
thousand
dollars.
She
said,
I,
don't
know
how
they
can
do
that,
and
the
answer
is
of
course
they
can't.
They
can't
continue
to
operate
the
way
they
are
at
that
amount
of
money
and
so
moving.
A
The
two
permanent
personnel
to
the
city
then
does
increase
that
personnel
cost
by
some,
but
then,
of
course,
we
get
the
full-time
use
of
their
of
their
services,
for
that
the
DBA
currently
does
get
some
money
and
that
twelve
thousand
dollars,
or
so
goes
to
the
DBA
in
dues
and
those
are
dues
that
are
paid
by
downtown
businesses
now.
What
we
would
propose
here
is
that
the
the
DBA,
the
old
DBA,
as
we
continue
to
note,
would
still
get
that
$12,000.
So
the
advisory
board
has
some
money
to
work
with.
A
They
also
get
about
ten
thousand
dollars
in
fundraising
activities,
for
example,
that
comes
from
when
the
DBA
does
their
trivia
night
and
they
raise
money.
Those
monies
that
would
continue
to
go
to
the
DBA
the
advisory
board
to
help
promote
downtown
Bloomington,
but
the
direct
funding
then
for
the
DDD
would
come
from
the
city
to
the
economic
development
division.
That's
kind
of
the
way
that
all
sets
out.
We've
talked
about
it
a
number
of
times
at
the
at
the
council
level
and
that
the
DBAs
board
meeting
two
weeks
ago.
A
They
also
voted
to
support
this
effort
and
I
know.
There
are
some
members
of
that
association
that
are
here
tonight
in
support
of
this,
and
that
is
all
I
have
to
say.
Are
there
any
questions
its
mayor?
If
I
could?
Oh
yeah?
Let
me
just
just
a
couple
of
final
comments
and
I.
Think
one
thing
it's
important
to
point
out
that
questions
have
been
raised
about,
possibly
if
we
wouldn't
go
through
this
kind
of
transition
about
possibly
increasing
the
funding
that
the
city
provides
to
the
DBA
each
year.
A
Just
like
we're
spending
a
lot
of
time.
Looking
at
labor
costs.
What
it
takes
to
be
competitive
and
maintain
good
quality
talent,
like
their
current
executive
director,
I,
think
they're
feeling
the
same
pressure.
They
want
to
make
sure
that,
for
the
amount
of
expectations
and
the
duties
that
they
have,
they
can
pay
them
appropriately.
So
I
just
want
you
to
keep
in
mind
that
this
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
it's
come
up,
because
I
think
we
they
are
finding
that
they
really.
A
If
we
continued
with
the
status
quo,
there
needs
to
be
probably
some
increase
and
I
also
mentioned.
I.
Think
the
greatest
concern
I
have
and
Steve,
as
well
as
this
gap
between
what
we
have
been
paying
and
what
we
would
pay
in
this.
We
are
looking
at
ways
to
maybe
utilize
other
staff
in
the
community
development
or
the
parks
department,
but
just
to
kind
of
move
over
to
full-time
positions
from
the
DBA
to
the
city.
There
is
a
significant
difference
in
kind
of
the
salary
and
benefit
level
within
the
city
versus
in
a
nonprofit
organization.
A
However,
I
keep
in
mind.
One
of
the
goals
here
is
long
term
to
institutionalize
that
function
of
Downtown,
Development,
very
similar
to
kind
of
the
model
normal
has
and
many
other
cities
have
where
they
have
brought
into
the
city
organization,
some
sort
of
permanent
full-time
person
or
persons
to
kind
of
continue.
A
Maybe
the
EBA
could
move
in
to
our
headquarter
office,
illa
T's
and
that
would
save
them
a
little
money.
Maybe
we
get
a
foot
in
the
door.
I
don't
know
could
be
in
a
number
of
options.
I
would
think
quick
questions
and
then
we're
gonna
have
to
adjourn.
Okay.
Thank
you.
So
much
Steve,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
coming
the
plan
for
following
up
on
this
conversation,
I
see
some
faces
out
there.
That
I'm
sure
will
want
to
know
that
well,
right
now,
I'll
get
with
the
bear
in
this.
A
We
look
at
scheduling
the
next
couple
of
meetings
we'll
be
looking
at.
How
can
we
allocate
time
to
continue
this
discussion,
especially
by
the
council?
Unrest
top
right
and
I
can
assure
you
that
there's
no
higher
priority
than
for
me
than
Downtown
Development.
So
this
will
not
be
long.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Oh
excuse
me.
I
didn't
get
a
motion
for
adjournment.