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July 10, 2017 - City Council Special Session
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A
Okay:
okay,
one
minute
as
our
clerk
is
getting
ready
with
the
first
three
are
Mary
Campbell
Laura,
dick
and
Quincy
Cummings.
Oh,
that's
right,
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
but
those
will
be
there.
Can
we
have
a
motion
to
come
back
into
open
session,
moved
by
all
the
woman
Schmidt?
Second,
by
all
the
woman
howlman,
and
when
Madame
clerk
comes
back
she
can
call
the
roll.
A
A
A
Oh,
that's
right.
We
haven't
we,
madam
clerk.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
come
back
into
executive
session.
That
one
does
need
to
have
a
roll
call
and-
and
actually
we
can,
if
you
will
just
go
ahead
and
vote
I
agreed
to
come
back
into
executive
session
or
regular
session
motion-
carries
nine
to
zero.
There
are
no
nays
to
announce
madam
clerk,
and
so
now
we're
going
to
begin
at
6:12.
Our
public
comment.
Mary
thank.
B
You
I'm
Mary
Campbell,
co-founder
of
labyrinth,
outreach
services
to
women,
YWCA
labyrinth
I
come
with
a
slightly
different
issue
than
I.
Think
the
others
will
talk
about.
My
concern
is
the
issue
of
whether
an
individual
who,
in
their
past,
has
a
pony
on
their
record
and
is
not
eligible
to
participate
in
this
review
board.
Having
worked
with
labyrinth
for
three
years,
renovating
restoring
with
the
help
of
City
Council
money,
but
all
of
the
work
was
done
by
volunteers,
those
volunteers,
many
of
whom
had
felonies
in
their
background.
B
They
would
not
tell
me
that,
and
usually
they
are
our
Building
Trades
people.
They
are
our
business
owners,
they
have
their
private
businesses.
They
are
people
that
you
and
I
know,
but
you
don't
know
that
they
have
a
felony
back
20
30
years
ago,
and
they
only
would
begin
to
share
that
with
me
as
we
tore
down
plaster
and
and
ripped
out
walls,
they
feel
disenfranchised.
These
are
members
of
our
community.
B
They
are
not
felons,
they
are
individuals
who
20
or
30
or
50
or
whatever
years
ago,
made
a
mistake
and
because
they
didn't
have
the
support,
many
of
whom
it
was
related
to
alcohol
or
an
addiction.
We
all
understand
now
what
those
issues
do
to
people
so
I'm
asking
for
you
to
consider
them
as
individuals
on
their
own
merit,
not
their
history.
They
have
changed
their
lives
and
they
want
to
contribute
and
they
deserve
the
respect.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
Thank
you
again.
My
name
is
Laura.
Dick
I
live
on
the
800
block
of
West
Washington
Street
in
Bloomington
I've
lived
there
for
many
years.
I
love
my
neighborhood
I
love.
The
diversity.
I
do
have
concerns
about
police
activity
in
my
neighborhood
and
the
negative
attitudes
that
many
police
officers
have
about
my
neighborhood
and
the
people
who
live
there.
But
that's
not
what
I
want
to
talk
about
tonight
today.
I
want
to
speak
as
a
resident
of
the
wider
city
of
Bloomington.
In
2015,
36%
of
unarmed
people
killed
by
police
were
african-american.
C
Those
statistics
are
only
worsening
please,
as
educated
caring
people.
Let
us
consider
that
we
have
a
problem
with
systemic
racism
in
the
criminal
justice
system
from
top
to
bottom.
We
cannot
wait
and
wait
and
wait
to
take
action.
I,
don't
want
to
argue
whether
our
police
force
has
a
problem
with
systemic
racism.
At
this
point
in
time,
people
are
so
defensive
that
that
type
of
conversation
will
lead
no
hair
and
will
limit
us
in
what
kind
of
actions
we
can
take.
C
Instead,
I
want
to
advocate
that
our
city
be
proactive
in
putting
into
place
systems
that
will
help
us
feel
systemic
racism
in
1997.
Bloomington-Normal
was
nationally
hailed
as
a
model
community
for
not
in
our
town
in
2017.
Can't
we
again
be
hailed
as
a
model
city
in
addressing
systemic
racism.
A
civilian
review
board
a
CR
B
is
one
tool
that
assists
us
to
protect
against
systemic
racism.
Its
existence
in
a
community
does
not
prove
that
the
community's
police
force
is
racist.
C
What
it
does
prove
is
that
the
community
cares
about
racism
and
wants
to
take
steps
to
protect
against
it.
One
responsible
step
again
is
to
make
certain
that
all
citizens
feel
safe
and
comfortable
in
filing
a
complaint
against
public
servants
who
wield
enormous
power
and
make
no
mistake.
Police
officers
wield
enormous
power
against
our
citizens.
C
Police
officers
as
public
servants
should
be
used
to
an
accepting
of
oversight
and
review,
and
that's
all
essentially
that
a
CR
B
will
hopefully
do.
Is
that
so
very
controversial?
Do
we
have
to
wait
and
wait
and
wait
for
you
as
a
public
body
as
public
servants
to
take
action?
Please
help
us
be
a
model
for
the
rest
of
the
committee's
in
the
state
of
Illinois.
Thank
you.
D
Good
evening,
I'm
Quincy
Cummings
I
am
the
president
of
the
Bloomington
Normal
NAACP
and,
on
behalf
of
several
of
the
organizations
advocating
for
the
establishment
of
a
civilian
review
board.
We
thank
you
for
the
work
you've
done
on
this
issue
and
for
reducing
the
draft
ordinance
for
the
peak,
the
Public
Safety
and
Community
Relations
Board
RPS
CRB,
that
was
included
in
the
June
19th
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting
packet.
D
Many
representatives
of
our
organizations
were
present
at
that
meeting
and
we're
pleased
to
hear
that
the
majority
of
the
City
Council
expressed
support
for
the
ordinance
at
this
meeting.
We
also
heard
several
proposed
proposals
for
revisions
suggested
by
City
Council
members,
which
included
adding
language
to
emphasize
relationship
building.
Addressing
excuse
me
problem
at
I'm,
sorry
addressing
problematic
language
in
the
ordinance
developing
means
by
which
council
members
can
have
more
involvement
in
board
appointments
and
a
suggestion
that
rules
for
this
board
should
be
cleared
through
the
council
before
being
adopted
by
PSC
RB
as
an
alliance.
D
We
are
supportive
of
all
these
revisions.
We
also
heard
discussions
on
section
3c,
which
currently
bars
people
with
felonies
from
participating
on
the
proposed
PSC
RB.
We
were
pleasantly
surprised
to
hear
a
compromised
position
offered
by
the
council
member
by
councilmember
Bray,
which
will
allow
people
with
felony
to
serve
on
the
board.
So
as
long
as
seven
years
have
passed
since
their
conviction,
our
alliance
of
community
groups
is
supportive
of
this
compromise
position.
D
We
made
our
position
clear
and
we
support
the
PSC
RB
and
as
a
matter
of
conscience.
We
requested,
though,
that
those
were
prior
felonies
to
be
eligible
for
consideration
as
potential
board
members.
If
you
feel
such
persons
are
unworthy
of
service
or
that
she
support
the
compromise
positions.
For
may
it
be
at
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting,
we
were
disappointed
to
hear
the
vote
on
the
PSC
RB
would
be
delayed,
but
understood
that
members
needed
more
time
to
consider
the
latest
revisions.
D
We
did
not
hear
any
councilmember
object
to
a
vote
taking
place
at
the
July
10th
City
Council
meeting.
We
walked
away
from
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting
after
hearing
our
elected
representatives
publicly
state
support
for
this
effort,
with
the
sense
that
the
council
had
addressed
any
outstanding
issues
with
the
ordinance
and
would
come
to
the
table,
ready
to
take
the
first
step
towards
establishing
a
mechanism
of
transparency
and
accountability
for
our
community
on
July
10.
D
Recent
actions
by
council
members
relied
on
understanding
the
rationale
for
requesting
chief
Heffner
to
reiterate
his
community
outreach
and
education
efforts,
as
well
as
the
complaint
submission
process
is
unclear.
Nonetheless,
we
hope
that
this
presentation
clarifies
any
outstanding
issues
you
may
have
and
that
you
will
be
ready
to
vote
at
the
next
city
council
meeting
on
July
24th
again.
We
thank
you
for
your
work
thus
far
and
we
encourage
you
to
take
action.
Jill
on
July
24,
the
passed
the
proposed
ordinance
establishing
the
PSC
RB.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
I
brought
my
family
here
in
2006,
I
moved
from
Pekin,
which
is
not
a
diverse
community.
I,
specifically
looked
for
a
diverse
community
and
I
chose
Bloomington
I
love,
our
city,
I,
think
the
police
have
a
great
opportunity
to
step
forward
and
make
our
community
better.
They
are
here,
I'm,
pleased,
you're
here
to
protect
and
serve
and
I
just
I
feel
the
police
have
this
great
opportunity
to
help
our
community
be
together.
E
F
I'm
Nancy
Marciniak
I,
live
in
Bloomington
I
want
to
comment
on
the
draft
ordinance
for
citizens
advisory
board
at
the
June
19th
discussions.
This
item
3
C,
was
brought
forward
as
the
elephant
in
the
room.
There
seemed
to
be
general
consensus
that
it
was
possible
for
a
former
felon
to
undergo
change
and
become
a
better
citizen.
I
agree.
F
It
was
suggested
that
perhaps
only
violent
crimes
should
be
permanently
disqualifying
factors
I'm
not
familiar
with
all
the
legal
classifications
of
felonies,
so
I
don't
know
exactly
where
the
line
might
be
drawn,
but
it
seems
reasonable
to
draw
some
sort
of
life.
It
was
also
suggested
that
a
period
of
time
without
further
convictions
be
required.
This
also
seems
reasonable,
especially
since
a
convicted
felon
has
a
number
of
obstacles
to
overcome
in
order
to
stabilize
his
or
her
personal
situation.
F
F
There
are
probably
lots
of
people
who
have
never
broken
a
law
and
yet
are
not
well
suited
for
potentially
sensitive
positions
or
interactions.
Here's
what
I
consider
the
real
elephant
in
the
room.
It's
the
US
versus
their
mindset,
which
pervades
almost
every
aspect
of
our
society.
That's
the
thing
we
are
really
trying
to
fix.
We
are
sometimes
very
good
at
fixing
what
ain't
broke,
but
so
far
we
are
behind
that
fixing.
The
infrastructure
of
that
mindset
sounds
familiar.
F
Finally,
item
AF
attempts
to
deal
with
bullies
and
intimidation,
but
here's
the
thing
in
the
nitty-gritty
world
of
us
versus
them.
The
bullies
can
be
on
all
sides
and
the
bullies
think
they
are
the
good
guys
only
protecting
themselves,
their
friends
and
family,
their
ideas,
their
loop
and
just
like
a
police
department.
They
know
how
to
work
undercover
and
anonymously.
They
know
how
to
put
a
little
English
on
the
intimidation
and
sometimes
the
difference
between
a
good
guy
and
a
bully.
It's
just
a
little
spin,
Thank
You
Brianna.
G
Hi
there,
my
name
is
Olivia
and
I
am
a
Bloomington
resident
living
in
Ward
5
I'm
here
tonight
to
express
my
disappointment
in
the
council,
prolonging
the
vote
on
the
PSC
RB,
and
also
disappointment
in
questioning
the
benefits
of
the
PSC
RB
to
this
community.
My
time
living
in
both
Bloomington
and
normal
has
been
really
great.
I
went
to
school
at
ISU
and
now
I
actually
work.
There.
I
personally
have
never
had
a
bad
interaction
with
the
police
in
Bloomington
or
normal
I'm.
G
I
couldn't
live
in
this
community
without
trying
to
affect
some
type
of
change.
That
is
my
that
was
my
original
reason
for
joining
black
lives
matter
tonight.
You
will
hear
personal
stories
of
how
people
have
had
bad
interactions
with
BPD.
You
will
hear
stories
of
the
how
the
complaint
process
went
wrong
and
if
you
cannot
empathize
with
those
stories,
if
you
put
yourself
in
the
shoes
of
those
people,
then
I
ask
you
to
look
at
the
data
data
that
most
of
you
have
seen
before.
G
I've
seen
your
faces
around
I've
seen
a
lot
of
you
who
went
to
the
students
and
said
our
presentation
right.
Black
people
are
four
times
more
likely
than
white
people
to
be
stopped
and
frisked
in
Bloomington
black
people
are
twice
as
likely
to
be
pulled
over
in
traffic
in
Bloomington,
specifically,
white
drivers
have
a
six
percent
chance
of
having
a
search
conducted,
while
black
drivers
have
a
thirteen
percent
chance.
This
is
not
a
perception
problem.
G
The
problem
is
real
and
is
expressed
by
these
community
members
and,
like
I
mentioned,
if
you
don't
want
to
listen
to
those
stories,
if
you
can't
emphasize
with
that,
then
the
data
is
clear
and
it
is
in
front
of
you.
Here's
the
thing.
These
facts,
these
stories,
they've
been
shared
with
BPD
and,
like
I,
said
many
of
you
have
heard
them
before,
and
yet
no
changes
have
been
made.
I
understand,
though
I
get
it.
You
probably
haven't,
had
a
harsh
experience
with
law
enforcement
and
either
have
I.
So
it's
for
us.
It's
easy.
G
D
A
H
You,
my
name,
is
Colleen
lucky
I
live
at
205,
South,
McLean,
Street,
I
live
in
Bloomington
I
work
in
Bloomington,
I
went
to
school
here
and
I
have
a
vested
interest
in
the
way
people
in
this
community
are
treated.
I
join
black
lives
matter,
because
I
saw
the
inequitable
treatment
of
people
of
color
present
in
this
community.
I
heard
stories
of
people,
including
children,
who
have
been
profiled
I,
could
not
allow
myself
to
be
a
bystander
to
this
happening
in
this
place.
H
That
I
called
home
I'm
on
the
west
side,
often
and
I,
regularly
see
black
and
brown
people
pulled
over
and
seemingly
within
minutes.
There
are
two
or
three
cop
cars
on
the
scene,
and
this
is
not
once
happened
to
me
what
I've
been
pulled
over
mister
Mary?
No,
you
asked
for
new
points
to
be
brought
up
tonight,
but
that's
the
point
that
you
have
all
heard
this
before
multiple
times.
You've
heard
the
data
you
have
heard
testimony,
and
there
are
some
of
you
that
still
want
to
call
this
a
perception
issue.
H
I
know
those
who
have
had
negative
interactions
of
the
police
and
have
not
filed
complaints,
because
they
don't
trust
the
police
and
they
don't
trust
the
complaint
process.
While
the
current
pro-social
events
that
the
BPD
currently
engage
in
are
commendable
ways
to
maintain
relationships
with
people
who
do
trust
the
police
enough
to
come
out
to
those
events,
no
amount
of
cookies
or
ice
cream
or
coffee
will
build
trust
in
people
who
do
not
trust
the
police
and
won't
show
up
to
those
events.
H
Again,
you
have
heard
the
facts
and
data
multiple
times
in
this
room.
You
have
dedicated
hours
to
listening
to
folks
talk
about
this.
You
have
heard
the
Chief
of
Police
describe
what
the
department
is
currently
doing
in
terms
of
community
policing
and
the
current
complaint
process
multiple
times
before
in
this
room.
H
You
have
heard
testimony
from
your
own
constituents
on
what
they've
experienced
and
why
they
did
not
file
a
complaint.
This
is
urgent
because
the
lives
and
well-being
of
the
people
you
serve
as
a
City
Council
depend
on
it.
You
must
acknowledge
that
there's
a
problem
with
policing
policies
in
the
city
and
that
a
small
number
of
complaints
per
year
points
to
an
even
bigger
problem
that
people
do
not
trust
the
current
system
and
don't
trust
that
design
to
work
for
them,
and
they
therefore
do
not
use
it.
H
I
I
I
too,
am
disappointed
that
it
hasn't
come
for
a
vote
tonight,
but
glad
that
you
have
plans
to
do
it
in
the
coming
session.
I'm
here
to
support
the
the
review
board,
as
you
can
imagine,
but
I'm
here,
mostly
to
reiterate
that
this
is
an
opportunity
for
transparency.
Transparency
is
a
difficult
thing
to
pull
off.
It
takes
a
lot
of
work.
I
It
means
that
if
somebody
has
a
complaint
that
they
can
bring
it
and
the
circumstances
will
not
be
handled
out
on
the
street
in
the
dark.
The
way
the
original
event
might
have
taken
place,
but
instead
can
be
reviewed
over
time
with
both
sides
presenting
what
occurred
and
everybody
being
heard.
That
process
is
what
can
build
trust.
I
J
My
name
is
cinnamon
Porter
and
I
support
the
passage
of
the
Public
Safety
and
Community
Relations
Board,
with
the
amendment
to
allow
folks
with
felony
convictions
to
serve.
My
heart
cannot
stand
to
hear
another
story
about
someone
I
know
being
mistreated
by
the
Bloomington
Police
Department
I,
know
community
members
who
would
not
show
up
tonight
or
at
previous
meetings
to
express
their
support
of
the
PSCR,
be
because
of
the
sole
presence
of
the
Bloomington
Police
Department
officers
and
that's
intimidating
for
them.
J
I
have
students
who
don't
understand
why
their
parents
are
hurt
and
crying
after
being
stopped
by
the
police,
but
they
have
to
comfort
them.
I
have
a
friend
who
stopped
driving
altogether
in
Bloomington
because
they
were
being
constantly
stopped
and
harassed
by
police
officers.
Our
community,
especially
folks
of
color,
are
hurting
and
will
continue
to
hurt
until
you
all
decide
to
provide
an
avenue
to
end
their
hurting.
J
We
cannot.
We
cannot
afford
to
delay
this
vote
any
further.
Delaying
this
vote
means
one
more
of
my
students
will
learn.
The
police
are
not
here
to
protect
them
and
their
families,
and
they
will
have
fear
instilled
in
them
by
the
Bloomington
Police
Department.
One
more
of
my
friends
will
unnecessarily
be
stopped
and
searched
one
more
of
your
constituents
will
lose
trust
in
this
policing
system
and,
ultimately,
you
is
this.
The
type
of
community
you
want
Bloomington
to
be.
You
all,
have
the
opportunity
and
the
responsibility
right
now
to
make
Bloomington
better
for
all.
J
J
Civilians
on
the
PSC
RB
will
have
the
ability
to
recommend
policy
changes
which
allows
the
community
to
have
a
say
and
how
they
are
being
policed.
This
ultimately,
ultimately
leads
to
a
sense
of
power
for
the
community.
I
call
on
you,
the
City
Council
to
pass
the
Public
Safety
and
Community
Relations
Board
now,
and
with
the
amendment
to
allow
folks
with
felony
convictions
to
serve
two
ends.
I
will
leave
you
with
this
quote
by
Reverend.
Dr.
K
Good
evening,
I
want
to
just
say
that
I
appreciate
him
back
the
words
of
Quincey
Cummings,
who
spoke
on
behalf
of
the
Alliance
and
also
want
to
echo
a
few
things
that
were
mentioned,
namely
alderwoman
ray
offering
some
additional
language.
We
appreciate
that
and
I
was
really
taken
by
alderwoman
Hallman's
words
about
the
mistakes
that
we
make
and
normalizing
that,
because
many
of
the
folks
that
we're
talking
about
they
didn't
have
the
fortune
that
many
of
us
have,
and
probably
all
of
you
have
had,
and
that
is
not
getting
caught.
K
We've
all
made
mistakes
and
that's
just
the
reality
of
it
and
so
moving
forward
in
your
deliberations.
There
are
a
few
things
I
just
want
to
offer
up,
and
this
is
not
to
slam
or
to
be
disrespectful,
but
to
simply
offer
it
up
as
we
move
forward
when
we're
talking
about
the
the
folks
that
were
here
to
discuss
should
be
careful
about
calling
reference
them.
People
and
those
people
who
are
we
talking
about
they're,
not
just
dim,
are
those
people
their
constituents.
K
So
let's
be
mindful
of
that
they're
there
they're
full
they're,
full
and
holy
complicated
human
beings.
Just
like
the
rest
of
us
no
difference,
so
the
other
thing
is
they're,
not
felons.
Let's
stop
that
they're
human
beings,
not
felons
a
felony,
is
a
mistake,
that's
a
record,
but
that
does
not
explain
or
describe
who
they
are
as
a
human
being.
That
may
seem
very
simple,
but
let's
take
a
look
at
the
psychology
of
it.
K
We
know
that
in
our
society,
when
you,
when
you
objectify
something-
and
you
just
turn
it
into
a
label-
then
it's
very
easy
to
discard
and
that's
what
we're
talking
about
we're
discarding.
The
people
that
were
here
in
the
reality
is
that
none
of
us
would
even
be
here
if
it
weren't
for
the
community,
so
it's
not
them
or
those
people
with
felons
they're
human
beings.
So
just
think
about
that
again.
K
Just
think
about
the
other
thing
is
that
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
do
some
work
with
alderman
sage,
and
you
know
had
a
had
a
good
time
and
thought
that
he
was
a
fair
guy
and
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
a
few
people
on
the
west
side
of
the
community
over
the
past
weekend
and
thought
about
you
and
was
able
to
work
with
them
to
come
up
with
something
where
we
would
love
to.
Have
you
come
over
and
take
you
out
on
the
west
side
and
talk
to
the
people.
K
L
Evening,
I'm,
gene
Howard
and
for
many
years
was
a
professor
of
Social
Work,
a
Illinois
State
University
I'm
come
from
a
town
and
from
parents
who
told
me
that
when
there
was
trouble
run
to
the
police,
the
police
will
protect
you.
The
police
are
good
people
and
you
need
to
trust
the
police,
I
have
friends
and
colleagues
who
tell
their
children
something
very
different
about
the
police.
L
My
friends
of
color
give
a
very
different,
have
a
very
different
conversation
and
then
often
because
of
their
lived
experience,
present
interactions
with
the
police
as
potentially
dangerous
and
urge
their
children
to
do
nothing,
nothing,
nothing
that
might
give
some
message
to
the
police
that
they
pose
a
danger.
I
find
that
sickening
I
find
that
sad
that
my
lived
reality
is
so
different
from
that
of
so
many
of
my
friends
and
their
children
who
teach
their
children
to
be
afraid
of
the
people
who
are
here
to
protect
and
serve
us.
L
It
should
not
be
the
case
that
some
people
in
our
community
have
one
experience
and
other
people
have
a
very
different
experience.
I'm
also
here
so
I'm
here,
to
urge
you
to
vote
for
this
Commission
to
be
established.
I'm
also
here
to
remind
you
that
those
who
are
convicted
of
a
felony
are
often
equally
disadvantaged
by
that
process.
L
L
I've
lived
in
this
community
for
over
thirty
four
years
and
for
much
of
that
time,
I
was
in
a
bubble
about
what
it
was
like
to
be
here
depending
on
who
you
were
and
what
you
look
like
and
what
resources
you
have
I
urge
you
to
vote
for
this
commission
and
I.
Remind
you,
though,
that
this
is
not
the
answer.
This
is
a
beginning
step
toward
the
answer.
If
people
come
into
this,
that's
at
odds
if
people
come
into
this
doubting
and
not
trusting
each
other.
L
A
Okay
at
this
point,
our
public
comment
is
closed
and
my
apologies
to
those
of
you
who
were
not
able
to
to
make
it.
We
now
move
to
discussions
and
propose
Public
Safety,
Community
Relations
Commission,
and
we
have
35
minutes
budgeted.
So
that
means
we're
going
to
be
bleeding
into
our
seven
o'clock
meeting
and
at
this
point
we
are
turning
to
police
Heffner.
Please,
chief
Hoeppner.
A
M
This
is
obviously
a
very
sensitive
topic
and
someone
attributed
the
comments.
I
think
that
were
attributed
to
me.
As
far
as
saying
those
people
want
to
tell
you
that
I'm
not
exactly
sure
if
that's
exactly
but
I
own
it,
but
I
want
to
be
the
first
to
tell
you
that
I
had
an
uncle
who
was
a
felon,
so
don't
think
I
think
any
less
of
anyone.
So
let's
just
be
very
clear
on
that.
In
regards
to
the
citizen
complaint
process.
M
Three
years
ago,
when
I
got
here
and
before
I
got
hired,
people
were
concerned
about
complaints
and
other
things,
and,
quite
frankly,
we
weren't
handling
them
the
best
that
we
could.
We
were
kind
of
understaffed
and
I
came
before
you
to
request
an
assistant
chief,
so
I
could
put
them
over
the
Office
of
Professional
Standards.
M
M
M
M
There's
a
lot
of
ways
out
there
to
investigate
complaints.
We
have
video
now
we're
gonna,
have
body,
worn
cameras,
there's
a
lot
of
information
out
there
that
we
can
green,
especially
when
they're
filed
in
a
timely
manner.
The
n-double-a-cp
assist
people
in
filing
complaints
and
have
been
been
doing
a
great
job,
not
in
our
town.
They
have
access
to
our
forms,
black
lives
matter.
They
encourage
people,
they
have
our
forms.
They
encourage
people
solicit
for
people
to
file
complaints.
M
M
I
mean
we
have
great
officers
up
front
or
a
civilian
staff
up
front,
but
sometimes
things
can
fall
through
the
cracks
when
you're
giving
it
to
a
sergeant
or
a
lieutenant,
not
only
that
they
could
notarize
it
for
you
for
free
you,
you
can
go
other
places,
but
they
can
do
that.
But
that
way
it
goes
into
our
tracking
system
and
it's
investigated,
and
it
goes
up
through
assistant
chief
wheeler
who's
over
the
Office
of
Professional
Standards
right
now.
These
are
the
things
we
have
in
place.
M
As
you
see
it's
free
of
cost
or
you
can
use
a
notary
of
your
choosing.
You
can
fill
out.
The
whole
form
come
in
just
say:
I
need
this.
Notarized
they'll,
look
at
it
they'll
stamp.
It
they'll
probably
look
and
see
to
make
sure
that
you've
completed
the
address
information
correctly
and
the
numbers,
so
we
can
contact
you
later
that
has
to
be
on
there
and,
yes,
it
should
be
turned
in,
like
I
said
in
person
to
the
staff
officer,
but,
like
I
said
you
can
mail
it
in
all
right.
M
Another
thing
that
has
caused
some
consternation
with
people
is
that
on
the
complaint
form,
it
does
say
on
there
that
if
you
file
a
complaint-
and
you
knowingly
put
false
information
on
there,
you
know
we
could
turn
over
to
the
state's
attorney's
office
for
possible
prosecution.
That's
on
there
for
a
reason.
That's
on
there
for
a
reason.
We
take
complaint
seriously
and
we
deal
in
facts.
We
hear
a
lot
of
stories.
M
M
If
you
think
it
doesn't
happen
here.
I'll
relate
a
story
to
you,
and
this
doesn't
mean
all
the
time
I'm
just
telling
you
I
want
to
reiterate
that
that
doesn't
mean
all
the
time
I
had
a
person
contacting
me
a
couple
years
ago,
I
wanted
to
speak
with
me,
the
mayor,
the
city
manager,
to
discuss
an
issue
that
they
said
had
to
be
handled
correctly,
poor
for
relations
between
the
city
and
the
community.
M
This
person
associated
with
an
organization
I
asked
them
I,
said
hey.
Why
don't
you
come
meet
with
me
because
I
do
meet
with
people
even
before
complaints
or
filed?
Sometimes
that
doesn't
stop
a
person
from
filing
a
complaint,
but
sometimes,
if
there's
misinformation
and
communication
issues
that
can
work
out,
they
did
not
want
that
they
demanded
to
meet
with
myself
and
the
city
manager
and
our
assistant
chief.
At
the
time.
The
allegation
was
that
a
person
an
employee
theirs
had
left
to
go
to
lunch.
M
M
Found
out
the
name,
I
looked
at
the
report
and
we
had
the
meeting
I
showed
that
person
the
information
they
had
related
to
me
and
I
showed
them
the
report
that
person
we
did
have
contact
with
that
person.
That
day,
that
person
was
picked
up
for
retail
theft
at
a
store
and
we
took
them
to
McLean
County.
That
was
our
only
contact.
M
M
Did
they
say,
hey
you
run
truthful
and
whoever
else
you
told
that
this
information
is
false,
I
highly
doubt
it,
but
that's
how
things
go
sometimes,
and
we
have
to
deal
with
it
and
I'm
good
with
dealing
with
it.
But
I
tell
everybody
here
when
they
ask
us
things.
We
have
to
have
a
process
in
place
because
we're
going
to
ask
about
the
facts.
You
talked
to
somebody
and
they
say
they
filed
a
complaint.
M
M
We
will
do
what
we
can
to
make
sure
we
get
all
the
information,
because
we
learn
from
complaints.
We
learn
from
complaints.
It
gauges
how
we're
doing
okay
we'll
try
to
get
back
with
people
with
a
disposition
in
30
days.
You
have
to
understand
that
it
has
something
to
do
with
a
crime
and
it's
in
the
legal
system.
It's
probably
going
to
be
longer
because
we
can't
run
two
investigations
at
once.
M
M
If
you
have
issues
you
can
come
in
and
speak
with
us
and
as
it
stands
right
now,
if
you're
not
satisfied
with
my
decision,
you
have
the
city
manager
and
you
have
the
counsel
and
I
want
to
be
clear,
I
respect
everybody's
ideas,
you
know,
but
we
have
a
process
and
I
don't
like
when
people
say
the
process
doesn't
work
or
it's
broken.
If
it
has
not
been
utilized.
We
have
some
great
organizations
in
here
that
can
be
advocate,
so
I
told
you
to
n-double.
M
We
need
the
information
in
a
timely
manner
if
you
don't
file
a
complaint
within
a
timely
manner,
especially
if
we
have
something
on
video
in
a
vehicle.
It's
only
there
for
90
days,
then
it's
gone
sometimes
there's
witnesses
that
we
want
to
talk
to
you.
If
you
don't
file
a
complaint
in
a
timely
matter,
people
move
people
go
out
of
state
that
makes
it
hard
to
really
get
to
the
bottom
of
what
occurred.
M
So
please
file
this
information
in
a
timely
manner.
You
know
I
told
you
that
we
have
a
system
in
place
and
we
did
that
shortly
after
I
got
here.
We
take
pride
in
that
you
have
an
assistant
chief
right
here.
Who's
worked
homicides
at
the
high.
You
know:
homicides
various
level.
Beyond
reproach,
we
take
pride
in
what
we
do
now.
M
M
Now
we're
at
seventeen
I,
don't
own
a
business,
but
I
know
that
if
you
have
a
business
and
your
customers
are
complaining
and
I
hate
to
look
at
us
as
a
business,
because
that's
not
what
we're
doing,
but
I
would
think
it's
my
job
for
us
to
work
with
people
and
that
complaints
would
go
down
because
we
are
actually
talking
to
people.
People
are
talking
to
the
shift
supervisors
they're,
finding
out
what
actually
occurred,
we're
giving
information
out.
M
M
The
last
thing
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
he's
got
a
little
over
120
officers
across
the
street
over
there
and
they
work
very
hard
for
everyone
in
this
community
and
yes,
I
know
some
people
have
different
experiences.
I,
don't
wear
this
uniform
all
the
time.
I've
had
different
experiences.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
talk
about
experiences.
They
don't
necessarily
occur
here,
but
people
hear
things,
they
say
things
those
120
people
will
be
there
for
you,
no
matter
what
occurs.
M
Shooting
incidents
thefts
whatever
they're,
always
there
to
answer
the
call
and
they
will
always
be
there
and
they
care.
These
are
the
same
120
officers
that
have
had
crime
reduced
almost
25
percent
in
three
years
and
they're,
proud
of
that,
and
regardless
of
what
you
do,
we're
still
going
to
keep
working.
Regardless
of
what
is
said
about
us,
we're
going
to
work
better
to
improve
relations
and
do
what
we
can
but
we're
here
to
work
for
you
as
hard
as
we
can.
N
You
Thank
You
chief,
one
of
the
reasons
I
was
interested
in
having
this
conversation
was
to
educate
myself
more
about
what
happens
after
a
complaint
form
is
filed.
So
you
alluded
to
you,
have
a
your
30-day
investigation
and
do
your
intake
and
I've
heard
that
at
least
in
Prior
administration's
that
people
would
get
a
letter
that
could
vary.
You
know
it
might
say:
we've
investigated
your
case
and
your
complaint.
Your
complaint
is
unfounded
and
there
isn't
necessarily
information,
that's
related
to
that
and
and
and
I
guess,
I'm
I'm
interested
in
finding
out.
M
We're
trying
to
instill
is
communication.
Answer
your
first
question.
Within
that
thirty
days
we
will
have
conducted
the
investigation
and
for
us
it's
either
not
sustain
the
investigation,
failed
to
produce
preponderance
of
evidence
to
either
prove
or
disapprove
allegation,
exonerated,
which
means
what
the
officer
did
was
legal,
justified,
proper
and
in
conformance
with
the
law
and
agency
policy
or
sustain
it
produced
a
preponderance
of
evidence
to
prove
the
employee
acted
improperly
or
unfounded.
M
That
means
it
didn't
occur
at
all.
So
what
I'm
saying
on
the
front
end
is
when
people
come
in
there
used
to
be
a
time
when
somebody
just
came
in
and
said:
I
want
to
file
a
complaint.
Now.
This
is
what
I
hear
from
people
have
been
here
longer
than
me.
They
just
give
them
a
form,
so,
okay
go
fill
it
out
sometimes,
and
what
works
best
is
that
okay,
ma'am,
you
want
to
file
a
complaint.
Sometimes
you
know
ma'am
or
sir.
When
they
come
in.
Is
there
anything
you
would
like
to
discuss
about
it?
M
M
N
N
M
With
assistant
chief
wheeler,
and
usually
when
that
happens,
if
somebody's
going
to
come
in
then
I'm
present
as
well,
and
then
we
will
sit
down
and
discuss
it
in
more
detail
and
explain
what
occurred
we're
putting
more
on
our
letters.
So
people
have
a
better
idea
in
regards
to
why
we
arrived
at
the
decision
that
we
did,
but
even
then,
if
people
want
to
come
in
and
discuss
it,
they
can
do
that.
They're,
not
satisfied
with
me.
I'll
send
them
to
the
city
manager.
N
Guess
what
I'm,
what
I'm
I'm
thinking
again
about
you
and
the
citizen
review
board,
and
this
is
a
process
that
you've
put
in
place
you're
not
going
to
be
with
us
forever.
Is
this
the
process
that
that
ten
years
from
now,
if
you're,
not
here,
our
police
are
going
to
follow
or
I
want
to
see
things
codified,
I
want.
M
N
M
The
letter
says
you
can
contact
us.
If
you
have
questions
all
the
contact.
Information
is
on
there,
so
that
that
is
something
that
a
person
can
do
and
like
I
said,
I
get
calls
people
come
in
and
they
just
say
they
want
to
talk
to
me
all
I
ask
is
that
they
inform
me
in
advance
of
what
they'd
like
to
discuss,
because
that
way,
if
they
come
in-
and
he
tell
me
some
things-
then
I
have
to
go
and
look
it
up.
So
there
takes
two
meetings.
N
And
Mayor,
if
I
may
just
aggressed
a
little
bit
for
half
of
half
a
minute
here,
people
are
wondering
why
we're
having
this
conversation
again.
This
is
not
our
billionth
conversation.
This
is
our
second
conversation
and
you
did
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting
in
your
house
with
five
groups
and
came
to
an
understanding
and
now
I
feel
like.
We
need
to
be
able
to
do
that
too.
I
learned
a
lot
from
my
colleagues
at
our
last
conversation,
I'm
learning
a
lot
tonight
and
I
think
we.
A
O
M
To
figure
out
what
are
you
talking
about
like
accreditation?
Yes,
we
plan
on
starting
that
before
the
end
of
the
year,
yeah
we're
planning
going
through
Illinois
Association
of
Chiefs
of
Police,
so
you
kind
of
have
to
go
through
all
of
your
policies
and
then
there's
some
new
policies,
we're
in
the
preparation
stages
of
that
now
and
then
that
they
will
come
in
okay.
M
M
A
national
one,
okay,
they
also
hire
a
civilian
to
actually
run
that
I
was
with
state
police.
There's
like
15
people
that
you
had
to
have
all
the
time.
I've
looked
at
I
leap:
we
can
do
the
same
thing.
This
is
the
Illinois
Association
of
Chiefs
of
Police
and
we
will
be
on
the
same
level.
Okay,
a
lot
of
these
things,
this
complaint
process
that
we
have
all
this.
This
is
pretty
much
across
the
board.
Remember
everyone
and
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
that
online.
This
is
in
Spanish.
P
No
okay,
thank
you.
I
have
two
questions,
but
I'm
gonna
start
with
the
first
one
for
solely
don't
interrupt
me
so
Brendon,
I
I
know
you.
You
know,
we
know
each
other
fairly.
Well,
you're
you're
great
guy
I,
a
lot
of
your
leadership
team.
You
know
great
guys
as
well
I've
gotten
to
know
them
well
what
I'm
wondering,
though
I
mean
because
I
know
you
and
I
have
a
relationship
with
you,
and
you
know
your
leadership.
P
Team
I
would
feel
comfortable
coming
to
you
about
an
issue,
but
for
for
some
it
may
not
be
as
comfortable
because
there
might
be
justified
or
not
the
fear
of
retaliation.
So
how
do
you?
How
do
you
manage
that
and
I'm
not
saying
that
you
would
retaliate
but
I'm
talking
about
the
fear
that,
just
because
you
bring
up
a
complaint
that
there
might
be
a
fear
of
retaliation
well.
M
M
M
M
You
know
eight
thousand,
but
we're
not
that
big
and
if
something
like
that
were
going
on
or
they
thought
that
if
somebody
came
to
me
and
made
an
allegation
like
that,
we
might
look
at
it
briefly
or
I
might
turn
over
to
the
state
police,
because
we
want
things
done
right
if
we
thought
it
was
valid
because
we
don't
want
that.
I
truly
feel
we're
suffering
and
we
get
brought
under
the
same
brush
as
what's
going
on
in
other
places.
P
P
I
guess
my
my
question
is
I
I
think
you
know
I'd
like
to
get
and
I've
looked
it
up
myself.
You
know
to
say,
there's
different
classes
of
felonies
right.
Isn't
that
one
two
three
four
and
and
in
class
X?
Yes,
is
that
correct
for
Illinois?
Yes,
okay,
so
I
and
I
I,
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
I
kind
of
wanted
people
to
get
a
sense
of
what
those
are,
because
sometimes
we
use
the
word
felony,
but
well.
M
It
depends
on
you
know
what
degree
you
sell
a
certain
amount
of
dope.
It
could
be
a
four
or
three
class
X.
That's
six
to
they'll.
Get
me
all
the
years
right,
but
that
determines
amount
of
time
that
you
are.
You
know
you
serve
or
on
probation,
so
I
guess,
I
guess
my
only
you
know
real
response
to
that
is
I've
heard
some
different
things
about
the
felony
and,
as
I
told
you
before,
I
had
uncle
my
uncle
went
to
DL
C,
okay
I
went
to
visit
him.
M
My
father
took
me
to
visit
him
in
Joliet
and
I
learned
a
lot.
I
love
him
a
lot,
but
you
know
a
felony
is
a
felony
and
always
tell
people
we're
trying
to
differentiate
between
what
you
could
have
done
or
whatever
there's
people
around
here
who
not
done
anything
wrong
and
they
have
went
and
got
their
records.
Sealed
state's
attorney
chambers
has
been
very
good
about
that
people
have
had
their
records.
Expunged.
M
They've
been
very
good
about
that.
The
only
thing
I
I
will
tell
people
that
they
forget.
I've
worked
in
a
narcotics
game
a
long
time.
Sometimes,
charges
are
thrown
out
when
they
talk
about
violent
gun
charge
might
get
left
off.
A
person
will
take
another
charge,
but
I
think
the
one
thing
that
kind
of
hits
home
to
me
is:
if
you
go
across
the
street
there
and
talk
to
some
of
our
detectives.
M
I
said
if
you're
going
to
let
somebody
on
there
that
was
a
felon
I
mean
I'll
have
to
do
whatever
you,
you
all
say,
anyways
I,
think
you'd
be
remiss
if
you
excluded
someone
from
law
enforcement,
because
the
same
reason
you
don't
want
someone
from
law
enforcement
is
the
same
reason
that
they
wouldn't
want
it
a
fella.
However,
a
person
from
law
enforcement
might
be
able
to
tell
you
that
brendan
is
not
exactly
telling
you
the
right
thing,
because
that
can
be
done.
Another
way,
there's
things
you
could
glean
from
that.
M
So
that's
kind
of
my
stance
on
it.
You
know
we
talked
about
the
7
years
as
a
7
year
from
the
data
conviction
7
years
from
getting
off
parole,
I,
don't
know,
there's
a
lot
of
things,
but
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
people
in
our
community,
almost
80,000
I'm
sure
we
can
find
enough
people
across
all
Ethan
to
T's
to
serve
on
that
board.
If
you
decide
that
go
that
way
without
felonies.
Q
You
know
outside
of
the
the
the
alliance
groups
that
are
referenced
here,
maybe
close
to
three
dozen
other
access
points
that
I
that
I
wasn't
necessarily
aware.
I
mean
these
potentially
could
be
access
points
for
folks
who
want
to
file
complaints
and
I'm
again,
I'll
be
brief,
but
I'm
going
to
again
highlight
a
couple
of
things
and
then
I'll
have
comments
when
we
vote
I
assume
when
we
vote
on
this
later,
but
but
again,
I've
asked
several
times
what
the
problems,
what
the
current
process
are.
Q
I've
asked
that
publicly
I've
asked
that
in
some
some
private
meetings
and
and
what
I've
heard
is
we
have
concerns
about
being
able
to
access
the
complaint
process
and
in
a
time
ask
is
there
anything
else
and
and
again
I
can't
really
hear
anything.
I've
not
been
told
anything
specifically
beyond
the
access
points.
So
I
hear
you
again
say
you
know
I'm
willing
to
work
with
the
you
know
the
Alliance
groups,
with
the
you
know,
potentially
again,
maybe
some
of
these
other
activities
and
touch
points
that
the
police
department
has
here.
Q
So
I
asked
myself
if
the
issue
is,
if
the
issue
that
that
I've
heard
repeatedly
is
about
people
are
reluctant
or
hesitant
to
access
the
complaint
process,
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
then
a
board
that
does
not
engage
in
the
process
until
clear
at
the
end.
Potentially,
how
that
addresses
any
issues
related
to
accessing
the
process?
To
me,
they'll
seem
they'll,
seem
disconnected
and
inside
would
come
back
to
the
point
I've
said
publicly
before
is,
from
my
perspective,
I
find
this
to
be
a
solution.
Q
Looking
for
a
problem
and,
and
especially
when,
when,
as
we've
heard
highlighted
tonight,
we
had
217
complaints
and
I.
Think
about
that
in
relationship
to
I
would
imagine
are
the
tens
of
thousands
of
interactions
that
our
Police
Department
has
with
the
people
of
Wilmington
in
a
given
year.
That
suggests
to
me
such
a
minuscule
percentage
I
mean
something
with
several
decimal
points.
Q
You
know,
I
took
to
the
right
of
that
that
again
I'm
still
having
trouble
and
have
concluded,
then,
as
I
said
before,
that
this
is
a
solution
looking
for
a
problem
and
so
I
look
forward
to
more
conversation
that
we
have
and
as
we
move
towards
a
vote
apparently
at
the
next
council
meeting.
Thanks
thank.
M
You
I
appreciate
that,
and,
and
I
want
to
be
clear,
there's
none
of
us
in
here
in
uniform
who
investigate
things.
If
something
is
wrong,
we
want
it
fixed
because
we
know
the
bad
shadow
it
puts
on
law
enforcement
and
other
agencies,
because,
as
obviously
we
get
blowback
from
it
so
somebody's
doing
wrong.
We
want
to
address
it
first
and
foremost,.
R
I
have
a
quick
question,
and
it's
in
regards
to
that.
The
ordinance
as
proposed
has
two
sections
section:
4
and
section
5,
one
talks
about
section,
fours,
training
and
orientation,
and
it
charges
the
city,
legal
department
and
the
police
department,
with
developing
written
standards
for
orientation
and
continuing
education
for
all
the
board.
Members,
and
then
section
5
talks
about
the
rules
and
procedure
and
again
the
board
is
created
with
rules
and
procedures
based
on
the
review
and
assistance
of
a
legal
department
and
the
police
department
to
establish
these
rules
and
procedures.
R
So
when
we
think
about
training
and
orientation
and
establishing
rules
and
procedures
and
that
involvement
of
the
police
I'd
like
to
know,
are
there
obstacles
with
involving
felons
in
that
process,
so
foot?
So,
for
instance,
are
you
able
to
show
your
police
procedures
and
protocols
to
all
persons
who
would
be
on
the
board,
even
if
they
were
persons
who
had
felony
convictions?
Are
there
any?
Do
you
know
of
any
legal
obstacles
to
showing
police
protocol
or
doing
it
ride-along
and
having
a
person
in
a
police
car
who
has
been
convicted
of
a
felony?
M
Currently,
do
not
permit
people
with
felonies
to
do
ride-alongs,
and
there
are
you
know
we
obviously
don't
know
what
kind
of
training
would
be
engaged.
But
you
know
these
are
questions
that
would
be
have
to
be
answered
after
it
was
done,
but
there
there
are
some.
You
know
obviously
some
legal
legal
issues
that
would
definitely
have
to
work
out.
This
would
not
be
something
done
overnight.
I
mean
because
people
would
need
to
be
trained
and
policies
and
procedures
and
things
of
this
nature.
R
Thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
that
points
out
some
things
for
us
to
further
consider
that
as
we
go
forward
to
craft
and
ordinance,
if
we
go
that
direction
that
meets
the
needs
of
our
community,
that
some
passing
something
that
isn't
complete,
it
won't
serve
us
well
in,
in
my
humble
opinion,
so
thank
you.
Thank
You
chief
for
your
presentation.
S
Is
I
think
the
question
would
be
for
Jeff
and
wouldn't
Jeff?
Wouldn't
our
policies
and
procedures
for
this
board
be
public?
Yes,
yeah,
so
that
yeah,
okay,
I
kind
of
like
the
Kim
it
sounded
like
Alderaan
phrase.
Question
would
be
just
they
were
that
the
policies
and
procedures
wouldn't
be
public,
but
they
would
be.
R
A
A
A
Hales
and
I'll
be
talking
about
that
as
we
go
forward
here
now,
we're
gonna
have
to
we're
late
when
it
can
I
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
this
meeting,
so
we
can
begin
on
our
regular
schedule
meeting
shortly
so
moved
move
by
all
the
minutes
per
second
move
by
alderman
blacks
that
can
fight
all
on
that
woman,
helmet
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying,
aye,
okay,
we
will
convene
after
three
minutes
of
a
bathroom
break.
Thank
you.