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July 23, 2018 - City Council Meeting
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A
C
A
You
yeah
thank
you
very
much.
We're
gonna
start
off
with
a
recognitions
and
appointment
and
item
5a.
Yeah
shouldn't
be
a
surprise
to
anyone
who
has
not
been
living
under
a
rock
for
the
last
few
weeks,
and
that
is,
we
have
a
loyalty
oath
for
mr.
Timothy
Gleason
and
we're
honored
to
have
Tim,
and
if
we
could
have
ten
step
forward
with
our
distinguished
city
clerk,
Jerry,
Lawson
and
have
cherry
administer
the
oath
of
office.
C
B
Been
appointed
to
the
office
of
city
manager
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
the
county
of
mcclain
aforesaid
do
suddenly
swear
or
affirm
that
I
will
support
the
Constitution
of
the
United
States
and
the
constitution
of
the
state
of
Illinois
and
faithfully
discharge
the
duties
of
the
office
of
city
manager.
According
to
the
best
of
my
ability,
it
will
help
me.
A
Now
we're
going
to
another
of
our
appointments
and
recognitions,
and
this
is
for
mr.
Jim
karch-
why
she's
smiling
already
and
you're
gonna
Wow
well,
this
is
we
have
a
recognition
of
Jim
Clark's
public
sir
works
director
on
being
recognized
by
the
Illinois
Society
of
Professional
Engineers,
with
the
2018
illinois
engineer
of
the
Year
award
and
I'll
bet
you.
That
conference
swings
like
nothing
else.
I.
A
A
This
is
it
and
it
very
nice
case
I,
wouldn't
mind
stealing
either
of
them.
Anyway.
Illinois
is
Society
of
Professional
Engineers
Illinois
government
engineer
of
the
Year
presented
to
Jim
karch
in
recognition
of
outstanding
service
to
the
citizens
of
his
community
in
the
state
of
Illinois.
Congratulations,
Jim.
A
E
A
Now,
therefore,
I
Terry
render
mayor
of
the
city
of
Bloomington
Illinois
to
recognize
and
celebrate
the
25th
anniversary.
The
bistro
and
Bloomington's
first
downtown
Pride
Festival
in
the
city
and
call
upon
the
people
of
Bloomington
Illinois
to
join
their
fellow
citizens
in
special
observance,
in
witness
thereof.
I
have
here
unto
set
my
hand
and
cause
the
seal
of
the
city
of
Bloomington
to
you
fixed
this
23rd
day
of
July
2018,
and
let
me
put
this
in
here
and.
A
Now
I
was
so
anxious
to
get
the
public
comment
and
just
as
a
clarification,
if
you
have
specific
questions
or
concerns,
you
can
always
come
to
the
mayor's
open
house,
it's
kind
of
like
a
town
hall
meeting,
although
it's
usually
smaller
than
a
typical
town
hall
meeting,
but
we
have
from
4:30
to
5:30
every
Friday
before
a
regular,
City
Council
meeting.
So
we
just
had
one
last
Friday
and
you
can
bring
questions
that
we
can
usually
get
you
answers
to
right
away,
sometimes
not
always.
A
Sometimes
we
can
solve
your
problems
on
site
and
that's
part
of
our
movement
toward
continuing
and
increased
transparency,
and
if
we
could
also
engage
in
dialogue
and
there's
no
doesn't
have
to
be
what's
on,
the
agenda
can
be
really
any
issue
or
any
concern
that
you
might
have.
And
so,
if
you
want
problem
solved,
we
spit
right
around
the
fishbowl
come
on
in
talk
to
us
and
that's
every
other
week.
Public
comment:
this
is
a
different
forum
and
that
is
your
opportunity
to
speak
on
the
record.
So
we
do
not
respond.
A
C
Good
evening,
mayor
councilmembers,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
Tim
Tilton,
200
West
Monroe
here
in
downtown
Bloomington
I,
had
a
couple
of
questions
for
our
engineering
staff
in
regards
to
an
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening,
and
that
would
be
concerning
the
elevator
required
at
the
Coliseum
and
I
have
passed
on
my
questions
to
the
qualified
people
in
that
area
and
I
will
meet
with
that
person
at
a
later
date
and
will
not
take
up
time
for
the
meet.
Thank
you
thank.
F
That's
timely,
Ward
5.
My
concern
is
number
one.
This
I
know
I
keep
Jim's,
not
gonna
like
this
I
keep
bringing
it
up.
The
streets
in
this
town
are
absolutely
pathetic.
I
know
that
you've
passed
a
bond
referendum
to
redo
him,
but
I
would
like
someone
to
explain
to
me
why
why
it's
taken
this
long?
You
know
it's
just
terrible
that
you
can
ruin
this
set
of
rims
just
drive
it
on
Bloomington
streets.
They're
that
bad,
you
know,
do
you
can
recall
Terry
when
you
call
Dianne
Benjamin
a
worthless
piece
of
garbage.
F
Maybe
you
are
hoping
that
people
will
forget
about
that
before
the
next
election
and
if
anyone
runs
against
you,
hopefully
the
voters
are
going
to
remember
this.
I
am
truly
sorry
that
the
council
did
not
remove
you
from
office
right
then.
This
is
no
kind
of
conduct
for
a
mayor
to
set
for
an
example
for
the
city
and
I
don't
care
if
you've
been
in
this
job
40
years.
You
know
you
once
you
make
a
strike
like
that
and
you're
done
and
I.
Don't
think
much
of
this
council
for
not
removing
you
from
office.
F
Karen
said
that,
well,
you
were
took
a
leave
of
absence.
Why
didn't
you
take
a
leave
of
absence
from
all
my
Westland?
You
were
well
enough
to
do
your
professor
dues
at
Westland,
weren't,
you
and
I.
Guess.
The
thing
is,
if
I'm
ashamed,
really,
if
anyone
says,
is
Terry
renters
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
Bloomington,
afraid
that
I'd
have
to
say
I'm
afraid
so.
F
Jim
gets
tight,
like
I
said,
gets
tired
of
hearing
me
talk
about
the
roads
and
maybe
when
the
streets
are
paved
in
gold
around
your
house,
they're
not
paved
route
from
the
gold
around
to
the
rest
of
the
city
and
I
have
a
problem
with
that.
I
really
do
everybody's
treated
equally,
we
all
pay
taxes,
this
lousy
City,
and
if
you
would
control
your
spending,
the
taxes
wouldn't
keep
going
up.
I
am
get
rid
of
the
fireworks.
F
I
know
the
it
only
would
be
a
small
percentage,
but
that's
the
money
you
could
put
the
right
to
cotton-pickin
roads.
Remember,
Bloomington
is
home
rule.
You
can
overrule
that
you
can
say
we're
not
going
to
have
the
fireworks,
but
no
no,
no,
it
would
upset
people
and
I'm
sure
I
wonder
if
the
Bloomington
Police
Department
they
really
get
up
concerned
when
one
of
their
officers
stops.
Somebody
writes
of
a
ticket
I,
don't
think
so.
Terry
and
I
don't
think
one
of
your
students
is
really
upset.
F
F
G
Good
evening,
I'm
down
a
bowline
excuse
me:
I,
live
in
Ward,
2
and
I'm
going
to
be
talking
about
pension
spiking.
This
evening,
I've
spoken
many
times
before.
The
IMF
website
states
that
the
payouts
are
accumulated,
sick
leave
and
vacation
if
made
two
months
after
retirement,
will
not
result
in
spiking,
and
there
boy
therefore
eliminate
the
need
for
accelerated
payments.
G
The
iMRS
administrators
call
the
practice
of
pension
spiking,
immoral
I,
believe
it's
been
the
council's
intent
to
wait,
making
a
policy
change
to
avoid
litigation
until
after
the
Illinois
courts
ruled
as
to
whether
eliminating
the
practice
of
pension
spiking
violated
the
pension
reduction
clause
in
the
Illinois
Constitution,
a
state
appeals
court
in
Springfield
has
affirmed.
Cities
have
the
right
to
modify
workers,
employment
and
compensation
agreements
to
prevent
pension
spiking
without
running
afoul
of
the
state
constitution,
public
worker
pension
pension
protection
cities.
G
Historical
data
shows
that
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year,
totaling
two
million-
has
been
paid
to
iMRS
in
accelerated
payments
since
2012,
based
on
the
historical
data,
at
least
five
million
is
projected
in
future
payments.
On
page
three
of
every
agenda
packet
priorities
are
lifted,
one
of
which
is
financial
planning.
On
page
four
of
average
on
the
packet
to
the
expenses,
especially
those
tied
to
labor
costs,
will
continue
to
increase
over
the
years.
G
The
potential
for
the
general
fund
structural
deficit
will
continue
to
threaten
future
budgets
in
today's
agenda
under
financial
impact
of
the
pension
spiking.
It
says
the
accelerated
payment
for
this
payout
is
expected
to
be
forty
nine
thousand
dollars
accelerated
payment
is
a
pension
liability
resulting
from
pension
spiking
accelerated
payments
are
not
budgeted.
Costs
are
expected
to
be
absorbed
by
other
operational
savings.
G
This
is
not
make
me
happy,
I'm
aware
that
legal
is
waiting
for
ruling
on
the
Union
Labor
Relations
Board,
but
the
change
could
be
made
now
for
non-union
members.
The
council
can
change
its
policy
to
pay.
I
am
a
ref
members,
member
employees,
their
accumulated
sick
leave
and
vacation
after
retirement
without
fear
of
litigation.
The
policy
can
be
changed
and
will
improve
financial
planning.
Please
make
the
change
as
soon
as
possible.
The
new
city
manager
is
quoted
as
saying
he
will
look
for
internal
savings
before
raising
taxes.
G
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We
next
move
to
the
consent
agenda
and
there
is
one
item
that
I
have
been
asked
to
remove
from
the
consent
agenda
and
mr.
Jergens
will
expand
on
that.
That
Thursday
as
I
understand
a
change
in
item
7j
as
in
Jack,
and
that
is
the
last
item
on
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
any
other
items
that
any
member
of
the
City
Council
would
like
to
have
removed?
H
A
A
J
J
We
modeled
this
after
the
Illinois
Municipal
League
ordinance
also
worked
with
the
town
of
normal
and
trying
to
come
up
with
some
mere
provisions
and
some
complimentary
provisions
between
the
two
communities
on
this
one
provision
that
we
realized
that
we
have
in
there
this
evening
deals
with
the
requirements
as
to
whether
or
not
you
can
have
what
poles.
We
have
a
lot
of
wood
poles
that
Amran
utilizes,
our
engineering
staff
does
not
have
an
issue
with
those
wood
poles.
J
J
And
I'm
gonna
ask
George
Boyle
who's,
taking
the
lead
on
this
project
in
our
office
to
come
up
here,
and
he
might
be
able
to
answer
some
of
these
questions
as
well
and
I.
Don't
know
if
Jim
karch
wants
to
come
back
up
here
as
well.
He
might
also
have
some
insight
into
the
bearing
all
of
that
said.
It's
my
understanding
that,
under
this
this
new
legislation
that
they're
they're
entitled
to
put
up
a
poll
but
I'll
I'll,
ask
George
to
comment
on
that
as
well.
L
Yes
in,
in
essence,
with
this
question
of
why
don't
they
bury
it's
really
a
cost
perspective
from
a
utility
company
that
that's
really
what
it
comes
down
to
whenever
they
don't
have
to
bury
something
that
they
or
they're
not
required
to?
They
try
to
keep
their
costs
in
line
like
anybody
else,
and
so
in
this
case,
and
it's
just
a
little
bit
separate
from
the
small
cell
issue,
we're
talking
about
kind
of
some
overall
lines
and
when
they
bury
and
how
they
bury.
L
D
L
And
the
other
issue
just
to
bring
up
is,
would
pol
the
reason
why
we
requested
that
is.
Structural
assessments
were
part
of
our
ability
to
look
at
this.
So
whenever
we
say
that
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
respect
some
of
what's
they
are
the
more
you
know,
the
more
change
that
you
have
neighborhoods,
the
more
impact
people
feel.
L
N
Just
gonna,
add
and
Jim
George
touched
on
this-
a
bit
that,
if
you've
already
seen
all
the
commercials
for
4G
wireless,
this
small
cell,
this
is
the
start
of
5g
wireless,
so
they
have
to
be
in
the
air.
You
know
I
mean
all
the
cables
to
them.
We
would
like
to
be
buried,
but
the
devices
themselves
must
be
on
buildings
or
in
the
air
for
it
to
work
right.
So.
A
A
There
are
no
nays
to
announce
madam
clerk,
and
now
we
move
to
our
regular
agenda
a
regular
agenda
under
8,
a
someone's
already
up
here,
consideration
of
a
resolution
waving
the
formal
bidding
process
to
end
enter
into
a
venue
agreement
with
live
barn
and
company
for
the
installation
operation
of
an
automated
sports
broadcasting
system
at
the
Pepsi
Ice
Center,
at
no
cost
of
the
city,
as
requested
by
the
parks
and
recreation
cultural
department
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
mr.
Tesla.
Thank.
O
P
Thank
you
good
evening,
so
live
barn
on
live
barn.
Essentially
it
was
a
need
from
our
customers.
They've
been
coming
to
me
for
the
last
three
or
four
years
asking
us.
If
they
could
videotape,
they
could
borrow
ladders
in
the
building
to
come
and
record
things
for
that.
So
for
safety
reasons
that
wasn't
a
good
thing.
So
I
started
looking
in
to
see
if
there
was
any
kind
of
software
that
would
allow
us
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
customers,
while
still
allowing
them
to
kind
of
get
what
they
wanted
out
of
this.
P
So
lime,
barn
is
a
proprietary
service
that
actually
they
hook
up
the
camera
and
the
wiring
for
us
at
their
at
their
cost.
There's
no
cost
to
us
and
what
it
does
is
it
reads
the
flow
of
a
hockey
game.
So
it's
a
subscription-based,
so
our
customers
can
buy
into
this
in
this
prescription
or
in
this
subscription
and
they
can
watch
their
watch
their
kids
if
they
can't
attend
the
games
at
the
arena.
It
also
is
in
over
40
different
ice
arenas.
P
You
know
when
I
already
it's
an
over
500
around
the
country,
so
not
only
when
they
get
to
subscription
to
buy
and
to
watch
the
games
in
the
Pepsi
Ice
Center
any
times
our
youth
hockey
programs
go
up
to
Chicago
area
st.
Louis
anywhere.
If
they
have
that
live
barn
in
there,
they
get
to
see
those
games
without
having
to
travel
outside
people
that
want
to
watch
the
games
and
cannot
be
here
in
Bloomington
to
watch
the
games.
P
That's
the
youth
hockey
travel
all
those
types
of
things
in
ISU
hockey
that
plays
in
in
the
arena.
They
can
buy
into
and
watch
those
games
there.
So
it
also
works
as
kind
of
promoting
the
Ice
Arena
itself
in
the
city
of
Bloomington,
as
well,
in
speaking,
to
kind
of
common
other
arenas
that
are
the
same
size
as
ours.
P
You
do
get
a
certain
percentage
back
if
they
subscribe
to
the
code
that
sly
barn
gives
us.
So
there
is
some
revenue
that
we
can
generate
from
that
when,
speaking
to
other
rink
managers
are
the
same
size
as
us.
What
they
said
is
the
biggest
thing
they
have
it's
an
extra
added
security
system
and
those
cameras
are
on
all
the
time.
So,
if
there's
any
issues
that
we
need
to
look
back
to
see,
if
there's
any
issues
in
the
facility,
we
can
look
back
and
see
those
things
as
well.
P
Won't
be
a
significant
amount,
just
based
on
where
the
community
based
rink.
So
it's
mostly
the
you
know
the
NL's
travel
programs
that
go
from
Chicago
to
st.
Louis.
There
may
be
some
revenue
built
off
of
you
know:
aya
suzaki
program.
We
have
schools,
come
from
all
around
the
country
to
come
and
play
against
them.
P
The
larger
rinks
that
have
larger
tournaments
showcase
tournaments
and
those
kind
of
things
there's
a
facility
in
Blaine
Minnesota
that
as
a
drinks
they
can
eat
they've
told
me
they
generate
anywhere
between
two
to
three
thousand
dollars
every
quarter
on
their
facility.
But
it's
really
based
on
what
we
have
here.
You're
welcome
other.
A
J
J
J
J
Estimate
by
engineering
so
about
a
ten
percent
increase
collectively
Russ
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
babysit
excuse
me,
thank
you,
City
Manager
Gleason,
that's
a
very
good
introduction.
I
do
have
some
slides
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
that
kind
of
review
what
the
city
managers
went
over.
So
this
going
to
get
dive
right
into
the
the
issue,
essentially
as
say
manager
indicated.
This
is
the
last
issue,
the
ad
a
issue
at
the
the
arena.
Formerly
the
Colosseum.
When
we
started
this
project,
it
was
still
known
as
the
Colosseum.
J
That's
why
you'll
see
it
intermingled
with
all
the
documentation
and
essentially
was
bid
as
the
Colosseum,
so
what
kind
of
drive
at
home?
This
is
the
issue.
Essentially,
the
the
ad
a
code
requires
at
least
one
accessible
route
connect
each
story
of
a
multi-story
building
and
yes,
we
have
existing
elevators
there,
unfortunately,
based
on
the
operation
and
the
way
the
facility
is
used,
those
existing
elevators
can't
be
used
during
some
events
to
provide
this.
J
J
Anyone
that,
with
an
accessibility
issue,
has
to
come
down
this
hallway
go
down
this
restricted
area
to
get
to
an
elevator.
That's
right
here,
basically
right
here
during
an
event,
most
of
your
talent
require
this
hallway
to
be
restricted
access.
This
is
where
all
the
dressing
rooms
are
located.
There
are
no
other
dressing
rooms
in
the
facility
so
because
of
their
contractual
obligations
and
pretty
much
every
single
act
that
comes
in
there
requires
that
that
there
is
restricted
access.
They
won't
sign
a
contract
unless
you
provide
that
requirement
in
the
contract.
So
we
restrict
this.
J
Air
hallway
is
restricted
and
no
one
can
go
through
it.
This
doesn't
have
proper
security
clearance
and
then
they
can
be
escorted.
So
that
is
what
has
been
occurring
over
the
past
few
years
is
a
an
ad,
a
patron
that
has
a
floor
seat
that
wants
to
go
up
to
the
concourse
level,
to
buy
a
soda,
to
buy
something
to
drink,
to
buy
a
t-shirt
to
go
to
the
restroom.
They
have
to
be
restricted
through
that.
J
Excuse
me
escorted
through
that
restricted
access
hallway
to
the
existing
elevator,
basically
in
discussion
with
the
Attorney
General
that
is
not
allowable.
Essentially,
what
they
have
said
is
that
you
cannot
require
or
mandate
that
someone
with
a
handicap
do
anything
different
or
have
to
be
done
anything
different
with
them
than
a
normal
body
person,
some
of
the
able-bodied
people
that
attend
a
concert
if
they
want
to
go
from
the
floor,
to
buy
a
t-shirt
to
get
to
that
client
course
level
that
can
take
the
stairs.
J
Obviously,
someone
with
a
disability
cannot
do
that.
So
the
only
option
right
now
is
restricted
access,
so
you
have
to
treat
them
no
differently
than
you
treat
someone.
That's
able-body,
one
of
the
other
alternatives
that
has
been
used.
I,
don't
know
it's
used
as
much
anymore,
but
then
they
bring
them
down.
The
ad
hallway,
take
them
outside
enter
through
the
VIP
entrance
and
then
use
the
existing
out
there.
Obviously,
that
is
not
acceptable
either
taking
having
someone
exit,
the
building
and
re-enter
of
the
building
is
not
an
acceptable
solution.
J
So
this
issue
has
been
discussed
quite
extensively
over
the
past
several
years
or
a
couple
years,
as
we
were
working
all
the
other
ATA
issues.
We've
hired
a
design
consultant
to
assist
us
with
this
with
vert
assistance,
city
staff,
assistance
and
venue
works
assistance.
We've
looked
at
many
options,
other
alternatives
to
avoid
the
expense
of
the
elevator
and,
quite
honestly,
there
isn't
anything.
Kind
of
the
layout
of
the
facility
prohibits
that,
essentially
on
this
side
of
the
arena,
which
I
don't
have
a
bunch
of
a
picture,
but
that
is
where
the
ice
plant
is.
J
J
So
if
you
wanted
to
build
dressing
rooms
on
the
south
side
of
the
arena,
you
would
not
be
able
to
circumvent
this
restricted
access
area,
because
you
still
have
to
get
patrons
off
the
floor
to
the
other
areas
and
you
still
have
to
essentially
get
the
talent
from
the
we
did
put
regression
rooms
here
how
to
the
floor,
so
you
can't
interact
and
then
basically
provide
that
cross
connection
or
whatever
you
want
to
say
it,
basically
between
the
talent
and
patrons.
So
it
really
we've
investigated
multiple
things
use
of
existing
elevators.
J
There
is
a
freight
elevator
in
this
corner.
However,
whenever
there's
a
concert,
the
cages
of
the
concert
set
up
right
here
on
the
west
end
of
the
arena
of
this
entire
area
is
filled
with
cords
filled
with
storage
equipment.
Access
through
that
area
is
completely
cut
off
at
some,
you
know
essentially
not
would
not
be
ATA
compliant.
So
there's
no
way
to
use
the
existing
freight
elevator
at
videos,
essentially
the
northwest
corner.
J
So
this
this
elevator
and
then
there
is
one
other
elevator
over
here,
but
it
does
not
go
down
to
the
event
level,
so
we're
restricted
to
the
use
of
this
elevator
and
because
of
that
restricted
access
alway.
There
is
no
other
way
to
provide
that
access,
so
I
spend
enough
time
on
that.
One
only
one
so
here
is
what
the
existing
south
entrance
looks
like
here's.
The
VIP
entrance
I
talked
about
here
is
what
is
designated
as
the
80
entrance.
J
That
is
that
hallway,
that
goes
from
the
outside
directly
to
the
vent
level
floor,
and
then
the
restricted
access
hallway
runs
perpendicular
to
that
through
there
through
the
arena
to
get
over
to
the
elevators
that
are
right
inside
this
door
with
the
proposed
addition.
This
is
what
the
elevator
will
look
like.
It
will
be
constructed
on
the
outside
of
the
building,
but
the
entrance
to
the
access
to
the
elevator
will
still
come
from
the
inside,
so
we're
not
requiring
anyone
to
go
outside
the
building.
They
will
essentially
come
down.
J
The
8a
hallway
make
a
turn
to
another
hallway
that
will
be
built
inside
an
existing
room
and
then
access
the
elevator
go
up
to
the
concourse
level.
One
thing
is
we:
don't?
We
are
not
doing
a
three-stop
elevator
to
get
to
the
third
floor.
To
save
some
money,
we
did
get
an
agreement
with
the
attorney
general's
office
that
if
someone
from
the
floor
could
come
to
this
elevator
walk
down
the
hallway
to
the
other
elevator
to
get
up
to
the
third
floor
that
is
compliant.
J
J
So,
to
reiterate
what
the
city
manager
had
indicated,
this
is
when
we
started
the
ad
a
project
when
I
became
aware
of
it
in
early
2016,
we
initially
put
some
cost
estimates
together
and
what
this
was
going
to
cost
to
bring
all
the
issues
that
the
Attorney
General
brought
to
our
attention
and
into
compliance.
Our
estimate
was
roughly
eight
hundred
fifty
six
thousand
dollars
and
to
back
up
a
little
bit,
we
did.
J
J
Area
so
grand
total
to
date,
we
have
spent
three
hundred
nearly
three
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars,
and
that
includes,
although
the
interior
issues,
there
was
some
shower
or
modifications
that
had
to
be
done.
A
lot
of
this
was
also
the
sidewalk
project
that
is
now
complete.
Oh
it's
just
the
the
s.
The
cost
here
does
not
include
the
safety
ballers.
That
was
a
separate
issue,
but
we
bid
it
together.
This
includes
just
the
sidewalk
removal
and
replacement
that
was
not
compliant
around
the
exterior
of
the
arena,
so
that
grand
total
includes
everything
except
the
elevator.
J
When
you
add
the
elevator
of
the
six
hundred
ten
thousand
dollars,
you
get
to
the
grand
total
of
about
nine
or
fifty
seven
thousand
dollars.
So,
yes,
the
elevator
is
a
little
more
expensive
than
we
anticipated
the
estimate
we
got
from
the
design
consultant
after
they
finished
the
design
and
had
all
the
details
was
really
close
to
our
original
estimate
of
three
hundred
thousand.
It
was
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
so
the
best
we
can
tell
some
of
the
reasons
that
the
the
cost
is
so
high
is
just
right.
J
Now
the
commercial
construction
economy
is
going
doing
quite
well.
There's
a
lot
of
building
going
on
it's
tough
to
get
bids.
As
we
indicated
we
bid
at
once
received
absolutely
no
bids.
We
bid
it
again
received
only
one
bid
and,
quite
honestly,
just
some
of
our
discussions
with
that
that
bidder
they
were
hesitant
to
bid
it
it's
just
it's
it's
a
very
small
project
and
there
will
be
a
lot
of
sub
consultants
or
subcontractors
to
do
the
work.
J
So
when
you
have
all
of
that
combined
and
fortune,
you're
gonna
pay
a
little
more
than
really
I
think
we
should
have,
but
with
the
Attorney
General
of
compliance
requirement
hanging
over
heads,
we
are
recommend
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with
it
just
to
avoid
potential
any
potential
or
future
issues
with
the
Attorney
General
and
to
get
the
facility
into
compliance
entertain.
Any
questions,
questions.
H
Sure
at
this
point,
what
my
questions
all
right,
I
had
sent
in
a
number
of
them
after
I
got
the
packet
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
information
you
provided
in
response
to
that
and
I
did
take
the
opportunity
to
go
over
on
Saturday,
I,
guess
and
and
walked
through,
and
actually
the
ads
football
and
and
their
competing
team
were
in
the
dressing
room.
So
I
really
got
a
sense
of
how
narrow
those
hallways
are.
H
H
You
know
and
I,
don't
understand,
I,
obviously,
don't
don't
know
the
building.
Well,
yes,
I'm
I'm
interested
in
a
couple
of
different
things.
I
take
it
that
we
from
the
Attorney
General's
perspective.
The
only
thing
we
can
do
is
to
create
is
to
build
this
elevator.
There
is
no
other
viable
solution
from
their
perspective.
We
have
negotiated
that
through
with
them.
Well.
J
The
Attorney
General
did
not
dictate
that
we
put
an
elevator
in.
They
are
just
dictating
the
requirement
to
provide
that
access
between
the
floors.
How
we
chose
to
do
it
was
up
to
us.
We
have
discussed
the
issue
with
them.
We've
talked
to
them.
There's
really
not
a
lot
of
any
negotiation
that
can
occur
versus
pretty
much.
We
are
under
their
order
to
get
this
compliant.
So
they've
looked
at
the
facility,
their
staff
have
come
out.
We've
discussed
this
issue
with
our
staff.
J
You
know,
and
you
can
take
this
for
what
it's
worth
they
are
in
agreement.
This
is
probably
the
most
viable
option,
but
they
are
bi
and
you
can't
hold
them
accountable
to
saying
that
they
dictated
an
elevator
that
essentially
was
based
off
of
staff
and
the
consultants
and
evaluation
of
the
facility.
Looking
at
the
various
options,
the
somewhat
address
I
I'll
back
up
to
that
that
one
slide
a
little
bit
and
kind
of
talk
you
through
that.
J
So
essentially,
what
I
think
you're
saying
is
is
making
adjacent
hallway
along
this
one
or
put
something
outside
so
somewhere
in
this
area
is
where
you
have.
There
are
there's
existing
dressing
rooms,
there's
existing
storage
areas,
there's
existing
equipment.
We
did
evaluate
that
options.
The
problem
you
have
with
that
is
essentially
adding
another
hallway
relocates
all
of
that
equipment,
all
of
those
existing
facilities
or
existing
office
spaces
with
more
or
less
be
eliminated.
That
is
where
the
hockey
team
is,
that
is
where
a
lot
of
their
their
equipment
store.
J
That
is
where
they
do
a
lot
of
their
their
their
I
think
their
workout
room
we're
actually
tearing
into
their
workout
room
considerably.
With
this,
some
additional
hallway
we're
going
to
have
to
build
so
you're,
essentially
displacing
considerable
equipment
material
rooms
to
build
a
hallway.
By
doing
that,
you
would
you
would
probably
eliminate
the
ability
to
use
this
facility
for
that
purpose
anymore.
J
You
would
have
to
remove
so
much
of
that
that
they
would
no
longer
have
essentially
the
obligated
use
that
we're
in
the
contract
with
and
then
quite
honestly,
just
from
a
practical
usability
standpoint,
they
would
have
nothing
of
the
left
to
be
able
to
operate
as
they
normally
do.
The
one
thing
we
did
look
at
is
as
opposed
to
an
elevator.
Was
a
external
hallway
essentially
build
an
addition
right
here
from
the
existing
ad
entrance
down
to
this
entrance.
The
problem
we
have
is
with
the
road
so
to
get
around
this
corner.
J
There's
a
set
of
stairwells
right
here,
so
you
can't.
You
have
to
have
egress
emergency
egress
from
the
facility,
so
you
can't
remove
this
set
of
stairwells.
They
have
to
remain
a
place.
You
would
have
to
build
out
and
around
that.
Well,
you
can't
essentially
force
people
to
walk
out
in
the
road.
So
then
you
would
have
to
modify
the
existing
cul-de-sac
on
Roosevelt
Avenue
and
make
it
non-compliant,
which
I'm
sure
mr.
karcz
would
not
appreciate
or
even
allow.
J
So
that
was
an
option
we
considered
essentially
just
not
viable,
because
once
again,
the
layout
of
the
facility
just
the
way
it
essentially
is
it's
in
a
very
tight
spot.
There's
really
no
room
to
do
much
of
anything.
The
elevator
is
essentially,
although
expensive,
the
most
economical
option
to
solve
this
problem.
My.
H
Other
couple
questions
have
to
do
with
the
finances
and
and
a
legal
question.
I
I
think
we
all
assumed
that
the
building
was
built
to
be
88
compliant
and
clearly
it
wasn't,
and
you
know
no
reflection
on
you
at
all.
I
know
you.
You
walked
into
this
and
you're
dealing
with
it.
The
best
you
can
and
I
appreciate
that
I
I
know
I'm,
not
alone
in
wondering
what
happened
and
you
know
are
we
out
of
a
recourse
because
it's
been
12
years,
12
plus
years.
J
See,
that's
that's
certainly
something
that
we
can
look
at,
but
we
are
talking
about
a
very
old
you
know
facility.
We
have
not
gone
back
and
evaluated
exactly
what
happened
when
this
was
commissioned.
You
know
in
2006
with
this
specific
issue,
though
I
think
you're
really
talking
about
it.
A
design
flaw
as
opposed
to
a
construction
issue,
because,
obviously
you
know
there
wasn't
an
elevator
or
an
access
path
designed
from
this
floor
level
to
this
second
level.
So
you
know
that
that's
something
that
obviously
we
can
take
a
look
at.
Quite
honestly.
J
You
know
I
think
you
know
you
could
spin
our
wheels
and
try
and
go
back
and
figure
all
of
that
out,
but
the
you
know
if,
I'm
being
perfectly
honest,
you
know
the
thought
that
we're
going
to
actually
be
fruitful
in
that
effort.
I'm
not
sure
we're
going
to
be,
but
that's
something
that
certainly
the
new
city
manager
and
I
can
discuss,
and
we
can
my.
I
H
J
City,
okay,
we
had
I,
think
about
$400,000
budgeted
and
then
they've
they've
got
two
hundred
thousand
and
in
a
program
that
they're
not
going
to
do
the
arc
flash
program
that
they're
going
to
use
that
money
instead
of
doing
that
this
year
at
the
arena,
so
they're
rearranging
funds.
So
there
won't
need
to
be
a
budget
amendment
or
anything
else.
They're
just
going
to
put
a
put
that
off
lease
for
the
future.
A
Q
J
Really
not
much
so
we
already
have
concerns
that
we
won't
meet
that
deadline
just
and
talking
to
the
contractor.
Some
of
the
materials
that
have
to
be
ordered
there
could
be
some
delays
in
getting
the
materials
there
could
be
a
some
shipping
delays
or
even
material
production
delays.
So
the
one
thing
that,
just
when
the
facilities
department
got
involved
with
the
Attorney
General
there
was
some.
Unfortunately,
there
was
some
issues
associated
with
the
prior
management
company.
They
weren't
responding
well
to
them.
So
there
was
some
concerns
on
the
attorney
general's
part.
J
We
did
our
best
to
rectify
those
to
remedy
to
those
and
they
they've
they've,
basically
seen
that
the
city
has
stepped
up
there,
they're
willing
they're
wanting
to
address
this
problem.
They
want
to
get
it
resolved.
They
want
to
move
forward
and
get
past
this,
and
so
they
have
opened
up
and
become
a
lot
more
receptive
to
cooperating
and
giving
us
additional
time.
J
So
numerous
occasions
when
we
realize
there
were
certain
things
we
weren't
going
to
meet
their
deadlines,
we
asked
for
an
extension
we're
essentially
giving
them
justifying
reasons
for
those
extensions
and
they've
proved
so
I.
Don't
believe
we
can
delay
in
executing
a
contract.
They're
gonna
see
that
potentially
as
stalling
and
not
wanting
to
move
forward.
That's
just
my
personal
opinion,
but
I
do
believe
if
we
execute
a
contract
move
forward
and
essentially
work
with
a
contractor
to
get
a
true
schedule
of
the
construction
present
that
to
them.
J
Even
if
it's
past
this
deadline,
I
think
they
will
approve
an
extension
to
get
the
construction
done
into
next
year.
So
I
don't
think
we
need
to
extend
it
very
long.
I'm
I
can't
really
speak
intelligently
tonight
about
how
long
we're
taking,
but
it's
really
gonna
depend
on
what
we
work
out
with
the
contractor,
but
I
do
believe
they
would
give
us
another
six
months
in
the
next
year.
If
you
actually
get
the
work
done.
If.
Q
Would
there
be
a
way
to
couple
this
construction
with
something
else
that
could
somehow
kind
of
bring
this
down
and
to
more
of
a
cost
averaging
if
you
will
and
and
if
there
is
opportunity
for
extensions,
as
you
mentioned,
is
there
a
way
to
time
this
and
try
to
couple
this
with
other
construction?
You
anticipate
at
the
arena,
not.
J
Really,
essentially,
the
way
we
go
through
our
procurement
process
is:
we
have
to
design
a
project,
get
plants
prepared
and
then
bid
that
and
then
potentially
award
it.
There's
there's
really
no
other
construction
projects
terena
when
there's
already
one
under
the
contract,
it's
already
nearly
complete
and
that's
the
brine
piping
project.
That's
already
ongoing
you're,
really
actually
you're
talking
different,
essentially
construction
techniques.
Construction
requirements
are
there,
so
there's
there's
really
nothing
that
could
be
coupled
and
quite
honestly,
we're
too
far
into
the
process
to
step
back
and
add
something
to
it.
J
Even
if
there
was
something
which
I
don't
know
of
anything,
so,
unfortunately,
I
don't
think
we
can
utilize
that
just
to
throw
out
another
couple
of
things,
I
did
mention
that
the
the
timing,
with
just
a
booming
potentially
commercial
contract,
our
projects
are
going
on.
We
also
have
potentially
the
the
tariff
increases
that
were
enacted.
So
your
steel
costs
are
going
up.
There's
a
lot
of
things
you
could
intentionally
say
that
could
be
affecting
the
price.
So
thank.
A
N
N
N
J
N
N
J
That
that's
maybe
something
we'd
have
to
discuss
with
venue
works.
I.
Don't
believe
that
that
they're
going
to
be
agreeable
to
providing
that
access
most
of
your
their
talent
aren't
going
to
want
that.
That's
something
that
we
could
discuss
with
them,
but
I
do
believe
that
gets
right
back
into
that
the
restricted
area,
even
though
it's
it's
restricted.
For
other
reasons,
it's
restricted
more
for
safety
reasons.
We
have.
E
See
that
one
area
that
is
being
talked
about-
yes,
that
is
actually
then
behind
the
stage.
So
when
it
comes
to
concerts
and
so
forth,
they
don't
want
any
patrons
and
public
behind
the
stage,
and
somebody
even
sitting
in
that
area
is
not
going
to
have
the
viewing
of
the
performance.
That's
happening.
They're,
not
gonna,
see
the
front
you
know
of.
What's
going
on
in
front,
they're
gonna
be
looking
at
things
from
behind.
So
that's
not.
E
Only
thing
is
is
again
they're
behind
the
stage
they're
in
a
restricted
show
area
which,
on
a
given
day
the
only
people
that
are
back
behind
there.
They
have
a
excuse
me,
you
know
they're,
either
security
team,
they're,
police
officers.
You
know
roaming
the
floor,
it
might
be
staffed
because
we
have
a
purpose
of
being
back
there.
Yes,
that
area
on
a
concert
day
is
filled
with
Road
cases
and
cables
you
mentioned
about
trying
to
leave
a
pass.
E
I
would
actually
invite
you
to
come
to
a
concert
night
to
actually
see
how
packed
that
area
is
with
all
of
their
show
equipment
cases.
You
know
cables.
You
know
when
Brad
Paisley
comes
in
with
you
know:
9
to
11
trucks
and
buses.
There's
a
lot
of
equipment,
that's
getting
packed
into
the
arena
at
that
time.
Could.
R
You
and
thank
you
to
everybody
whose
work
on
this
project
I,
don't
think
anybody
up.
She
wants
to
spend
$600,000
on
the
arena
at
this
point
in
time
or
any
point
in
the
near
future.
We're
talking
about
percentages
of
our
budget
and
I.
Think
about
this
conversations
and
percolating
over
the
last
year's
and
I
feel
like
this
is
at
least
a
third
or
fourth
time
that
I've
heard
about
this.
In
this
time
frame
and
part
of
me
wants
to
say:
can
we
have
like
three
different
cost
estimates
of
what
Holly
would
be?
R
You
know
the
issue
with
trying
to
rearrange
it
kind
of
to
Jamie's
point.
You
know
why
that
wouldn't
work
in
a
Brad,
Paisley
situation,
building
them
in
our
hallway
around
reconfiguring
rooms
and
then
just
pick
the
least
expensive
option,
but
I
feel
like
we
spent
a
lot
of
staff
time
on
on
this
already.
You
know,
frankly,
we
can
go
back.
It
sounds
like
we're
under
some
sort
of
time
crunch
and
you
know
I'm
who
that
who
knows
what
the
tariffs
are
going
to
do
is
to
any
cost.
R
But
I
guess
I'm
not
enthusiastically
supporting
this,
but
this
is
one
of
the
situations
in
which
you
know
we
kind
of
really
don't
have
a
choice,
so
we
can
go
back
and
try
to
spend
more
staff,
time
and
resources
which
could
go
above
and
beyond
$600,000.
We
could
look
at
the
staff
work
that
says
this
is
why
we
picked
this
one
maybe
have
a
subsequent
report
after
we
approve
this
evening
since
we're
on
some
sort
of
a
time
crunch,
but
maybe
we
potentially
could
be
I
know.
R
J
That's
something
that
we
can
certainly
look
at.
You
know
we
do
have
various
fees
associated
with
tickets,
with
parking
with
other
things
that
we
do
there
so
and
again,
it's
I
think
just
overall
not
even
related
to
the
elevator,
but
there's
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
Those
councils
had
to
invest
a
very
large
amount
of
money
into
the
arena
that
you're
looking
at
it
over
a
ten-year
old
building
and
a
lot
of
maintenance.
That
was
needed,
and
so
that's
something
that's
certainly
a
staff.
J
R
I
E
From
the
aspect
of
concerts
family
shows,
you
know
everything
that
we've
had
you
know
in
the
past
two
years.
All
of
those
would
fall
into
this
restricted
access
and
needing
to
have
you
know
that
area
behind
the
stage
restricted
for
people
to
be
able
to
get
it
into
you.
I'm
sorry,
I
forgot
your
other
question
that
you
had.
I
So
I
was
talking
about
just
getting
some
numbers
in
terms
of
how
many
shows
we
have
let's
say
per
year.
You
know
that
required
the
service
tree
research
about
us
and
it
and
if
it's
every
show
I
just
want
to
get
a
general
number
and
then
also
you
know,
do
we
know
how
many
individuals
with
you
know,
ATA
accessibility
issues
would
need
to
access
this
elevator.
Okay,.
E
So
if
somebody
wants
to
have
seats
on
the
floor,
we
have
to
have
ad
a
seats
allotted
for
them
to
be
able
to
purchase
once
in
areas
sold
out
of
what
we
had
allotted.
We've
still
met
our
requirement
for
the
ad
a
as
far
as
allowing
seats
to
be
in
certain
areas,
but
as
part
of
the
requirements.
If
a
show
has
for
different
price
points,
we
have
to
have
I
believe
it's
like
three
to
five
percent
of
the
seats
in
that
area.
In
that
price
point
allotted
for
ad
a
purchase
does
that
help.
I
M
E
Information
will
go
out
to
other
promoters
that
they
are
friends
with
that
they
work
with
and
sit
back
and
say,
don't
go
to
Bloomington.
We
had
this
issue,
we
weren't
happy
with
it.
This
is
the
only
worker.
The
building
has
that
reputation
we'll
get
out
there
and
your
number
of
shows
that
will
have
will
become
less
and
less
because
of
that
reputation.
Okay,.
S
Wanted
to
thank
Pat
very
much
for
coming.
Lynn
cannon
is
out
of
town
now
and
I've
been
taking
the
questions
down
here,
and
there
are
a
number
of
these
things
that
may
require
a
little
bit
more
work
on
the
staffs
part,
and
so
it
could
be
possible
that
we
could
table
this
until
the
first
meeting
in
August.
We
could
come
back
with
some
more
full
answers
here
and
we
would
have
Lynn
Cannon
back
and
I.
J
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
right
at
this
point.
We
are
going
to
move
on
to
item
C
in
its
consideration
of
water
department
items
and
I.
Think
it's
fair
to
say.
Is
this
correct
that
these?
The
main
reason
we
have
these
on
here
is
because
of
the
amount
not
necessarily
because
they're
not
budgeted
or
that
they're
a
controversial,
necessarily
you're,
correct,
mayor
and
I
believe
all
the
woman's
Burgas
would
like
to
recuse
herself.
Yes,.
T
A
A
N
Yale,
thank
you,
sir
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
the
council,
mayor
and
city
manager.
Gleason
this
evening.
We
have
two
projects,
we're
gonna
speak
about.
As
mayor
said,
they
are
both
a
rather
large
dollar
amounts
and
that's
why
we're
presenting
I'm
to
tonight
they're
all
budgeted
in
the
FY
19
budget.
The
first
one
went
to
talk
about.
Is
the
Lake
Bloomington
main
process
treatment
plant
roof
replacements?
It's
about
three
hundred
twenty
three
thousand
dollars.
We
received
one
bid
for
this
replacement.
It
is
32
years
old,
which
is
the
age
of
the
building
itself.
N
N
The
next
project
is
a
cloud
street
from
aggregor
to
Vail.
It's
too
two
contracts,
one
for
the
construction,
one
for
the
observation.
The
water
department
analyzes
a
multitude
of
different
issues
with
our
water
mains.
This
one
has
a
lot
of
brakes.
The
aged,
cast-iron
and
smaller
in
size,
so
point
out
a
couple
of
new
features
on
this
map
that
we
haven't
been
able
to
show
before
until
recently
those
dots,
those
multicolored
dots,
are
main
breaks
in
those
three
black
stretches.
N
We
have
them
categorized
by
year
and
type
to
drill
down,
we've
recently
added
those
to
our
GIS
functionality,
so
we're
able
to
overlay
those
with
mr.
car
cheese
road
maps
and
tried
to
provide
some
uniform
approach
to
our
infrastructure.
Improvements
cast-iron
tends
to
break
some
of
the
mains
are
four
inch.
Ryan
drive,
which
is
north-south
right
here
in
the
middle,
was
replaced
in
2016
the
next
project
after
that
was
to
follow
on
and
do
cloud
street.
So
we
received
multiple
bids.
Gildner
was
our
low,
responsive
bidder.
N
The
next
portion
of
this
project
is
construction
inspection,
I've
presented
to
you
before
most
recent
items,
Eric
drive,
water,
main
replacement
and
some
others.
The
water
department
is
not
staff
to
provide
on-site
phase.
Three
or
construction
inspection
services
full-time,
so
we've
contracted
those
out
recently
with
some
of
our
local
engineering
firms.
In
this
case,
this
one's
presented
to
be
pro
hosed
and
awarded
the
Farnsworth
Group.
They
recently
completed
Zurich
Drive,
which
we're
cleaning
up
and
finalizing
and
they've
done
a
good
job
on
that
one
as
well.
A
A
A
U
I'll
steal
director
test
lost
words
and
I
have
only
one
thing
to
do
this
evening
and
that
is
to
introduce
you
Josh
Hanson
who's,
our
compensation
benefits
manager,
I'm
gonna.
Let
him
present
this
items
units
the
local
wage
transparency
act.
We
do
have
a
retirement
that
we
need
to
bring
forward
to
you
not
necessarily
for
approval,
but
for
transparency
purposes.
So
josh
is
going
to
cover
that
for
us
great.
V
Thanks
Nicole
and
as
Nicole
mentioned,
this
is
our
third
employee
who
is
considered
to
be
classified
non-union.
Who
has
a
sickly
Bank?
He
is
grandfathered
and
as
a
result,
three
months
prior
to
his
retirement,
which
will
be
the
5th
of
October.
So
in
the
months
of
July,
August
and
September,
we
will
take
his
sick
leave
based
on
his
current
rate
of
pay
per
hour
and
provide
that
to
him
and
then,
of
course,
when
he
leaves
he
would
have
a
supplemental
amount
of
vacation
time
that
he's
linked
as
well.
V
V
So
each
group
is
a
little
different
across
the
city
specific
to
the
union,
collective
bargaining
agreements
or
CBA's,
but
for
the
non-union
folks.
What
we
do
is
that
money
is
actually
converted
into
a
retirement
health
savings
account
which
is
administered
through
ICM
AARC,
similar
to
our
457
plans,
and
so
that
those
funds
are
available
to
our
retirees
when
they
are
no
long
with
the
city,
but
also
at
the
time
of
retirement.
He
will
have
seven
thousand
six
hundred
and
sixty
six
dollars
and
ninety
cents
of
accrued
vacation
time
that'll
be
provided
to
him
as
well.
V
Of
course,
all
of
these
balances,
if
they
were
to
change
over
the
next
three
months,
would
be
adjusted
during
that
final
period
that
he
is
with
the
city.
The
net
increase
as
a
result
of
this
into
his
pension
per
month
is
anticipated
to
be
three
hundred
thirteen
dollars
and
87
cents.
Of
course,
I
am
a
ref
will
finalize
that
information
once
they
have
is
terminated
termination
data
from
the
city
and
then,
of
course,
the
accelerated
payment
or
AP
aid
that
will
come
across
to
the
city.
Approximately
four
to
six
weeks
after
he
does
retire.
N
V
Yeah
and
there
are
different
I
guess
versions
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
but
a
change
was
made
as
of
May
1st
2012
specific
to
the
classified
non-bargaining
employees
population,
where
those
who
were
actively
employed
at
the
time
we're
able
to
not
only
accrue
sickly,
but
when
they
do
retire
from
the
city.
We
have
several
rules
in
place.
It's
called
the
rule
of
seventy
five,
which
means
whenever
they
do
retire.
If
you
take
a
person's
age
plus
or
years
of
service
that
they
would
then
be
eligible
for
the
benefit.
V
So
those
of
us,
for
example,
I'll,
just
tell
you
myself,
I've,
been
with
the
city
a
little
over
a
year.
I
do
have
sick
time
that
I
accrue
similar
to
these
employees.
But,
let's
say
I
were
to
stay
with
the
city
20
plus
years
and
retire.
I
would
not
have
a
benefit
that
sick
leave.
That
I've
accumulated
would
then
be
converted
into
pension
credits,
and
you
can
accrue
up
to
six
months
specific
to
the
city
and
that's
very
standard
yeah.
R
So
I
can
remember
a
couple
different
times
in
which
we've
talked
about
sick
leave
buyback
and
there
is
a
conversation
or
a
cloud
think
of
his
last
summer,
where
we
talked
about
it
and
we're
gonna
wait
for
Springfield
to
do
some
legal,
maneuvering
and
I.
Think
some
answers
have
come
back.
What
would
the
legal
ramifications
be
if
we
were
to
just
end
the
grandfathering
for
that
prior
to
2012
timeframe?
What
would
the
cost
of
city
be
risk
to
the
city?
What
would
that
look
like
for
us
yeah.
J
Well,
we'll
have
to
get
a
lot
of
those
numbers,
but,
as
you
mentioned,
we
were
waiting
kind
of
seeing
what
happened
in
Springfield.
As
you
heard,
you
know,
we've
talked
about
before
they
were.
The
city
of
Springfield
was
successful
in
the
circuit
court
and
then
the
appellate
court
litigation.
We
just
got
the
decision
back
or
we
got
a
copy
of
their
unfair
labor
practice
decision
this
morning.
J
That
came
back
earlier
this
month
and
the
city
was
successful
in
that
as
well,
although
it's
it's
very
fact-specific
and
was
related
to
what
communications
and
what
negotiations
they
had
with
their
unions.
So
when
you
talk
about
the
impact
we
would
have
to
you
know,
and-
and
this
is
something
that
HR
and
is
working
on
and
and
can
provide
the
counsel,
but
we
have
to
look
at
what
are
the
you
know
the
cost
of
the
any
retirements
that
would
happen.
J
Any
vacancy
savings
we'd
also
have
to
look
at
issues
related
to,
even
though
we've
been
you
know,
there's
there
have
been
other
court
cases
out
there.
We
do
have
previous
threats
from
from
certain
unions
saying
that
they
would
fight
any
changes
to
this.
So
we
likely
would
be
fighting
in
court.
You
know
some
of
these
changes,
but
we
do
think
there
could
be
a
path
and
what
we
would
have
to
do
is
get
all
those
numbers
put
together
and
bring
back
some
of
the
options
to
the
council.
I.
R
A
V
Real
quick,
Scott
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page,
because
obviously
this
is
a
heavily
debated
topic
and
something
at
least
in
my
position.
You
know
I
had
a
lot
of
learning
over
the
last
year,
but
also
get
a
lot
of
questions
from
employees,
and
so
because
we
do
have
a
number
of
folks
who
are
at
or
near
retirement
when
you
say
in
the
practice
of
sickly
buyback,
just
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page.
V
Are
you
referring
to
the
way
in
which
the
sickly
buyback
is
paid
out
over
the
three
month
prior
just
so
that
all
of
those
earnings
are
deemed
to
be
pensionable?
Is
that
correct?
It's
correct?
Okay
and
I
do
want
to
another
just
point
of
interest
or
clarification
for
the
group.
We
have
been,
of
course,
similar
to
what
Jeff
said.
We've
been
doing
some
analysis
internally,
as
well
as
with
some
other
folks
or
groups,
and
we
would
have
some
impact
information
to
share
as
early
as
next
month,
I'd.
A
J
You
mayor
a
couple
of
public
service
announcements
since
May
first
solid
waste
program,
is
that
the
there
we
go
I'm
going
to
start
over
long-standing
practice
to
show
some
of
the
coming
events
for
the
city.
So
here
those
are
up
there
for
everybody
and
they
can
be
found
on
the
city's
website
as
well.
A
couple
of
public
service
announcements
since
May
first
solid
waste
program
changes
went
to
effect.
City
staff
have
been
tagging
bulk
waste
at
the
curb
and
placing
door
hangers
to
provide
notice
of
charge
charges
before
collection.
J
The
intention
of
the
changes
to
keep
her
community
clean
since
material
previously
could
be
in
the
parkway
for
up
to
four
weeks
before
a
collection,
we
intend
to
put
the
information
out
in
a
press
release
on
Friday,
as
well
as
adding
information
to
our
city
website
and
Facebook
PSA
number
to
receive
word
from
row
construction
that
there
they
will
be
starting
roadwork
on
Veterans
Parkway,
the
night
of
July
30th.
Lane
closures
will
begin
at
9
p.m.
and
everything
will
reopen
the
very
next
morning
at
7
a.m.
and
then.
A
A
Q
Q
N
Thank
you,
Bloomington
101
applications
are
still
open
right.
Just
to
give
that
a
shout
out
that
Nora
a
story,
people
can
still
apply
to
do
that,
because
I
thought
that
was
I
went
through
that
years
ago,
like
a
second
class
and
I
thought.
That
was
a
wonderful
opportunity
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
are
aware
that
that's
still
open
and
anybody
can
do
it.
You
know
thank.
A
You
so
much
anyone
else.
Okay,
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
moved
by
alderman
black?
Is
there
a
second
second
by
all
the
woman
Schmidt,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye?
We
are
adjourned
and
Steve.
Rasmussen
gets
theater
wins
the
bet,
whether
you,
but
that
that
this
is
fast.
So
so
it's
I
think
it
is
actually
eight
fifteen.