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A
Okay,
welcome
everybody,
it's
603
and
we're
going
to
call
this
meeting
of
the
committee
of
the
whole
to
order.
Madam
clerk,
would
you
do
the
roll
call
please.
C
B
D
A
A
Okay,
so
if
you
want
to
make
your
way
to
the
podium
and
I'll
read
the
statement
here,
public
comment
is
an
opportunity
for
speakers
to
provide
their
views
and
feedback
to
the
city
council.
It's
an
opportunity
for
the
city
council
to
listen
and
hear
diverse
points
of
view
to
maximize
the
impact
of
public
comment
and
show
respect
for
the
expression
of
all
views.
A
What
was
that?
Oh
sorry
lost?
My
focus
where
I
was
speakers
must
identify
identify
themselves
for
the
record,
but
are
not
required
to
give
their
address.
Each
speaker
is
given
the
floor
for
three
minutes,
and
the
council
does
not
respond
or
engage
in
debate.
Any
speaker
that
engages
in
threatening
or
disorderly
behavior
will
be
deemed
out
of
order
and
their
time
ceased.
E
Thank
you.
My
name
is
serena
fish.
I
am
head
of
west
side
neighbors,
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
pscrb
board,
I'm
here
to
make
public
comment
on
the
three
initiatives:
the
first
one
about
saving
money.
E
This
has
been
a
product,
a
project
of
our
city
manager
ever
since
he
took
over,
and
I
don't
understand
why
we
need
another
commission
and
another
way
to
to
save
money
or
combine
services,
because
that's
something
that
he
has
been
actively
doing
with
all
department
heads
since
he's
been
here
second
initiative
for
green
infrastructure,
all
department
heads
need
to
incorporate
it
in
their
planning
and
part
of
their
daily
and
whatever
they're
going
to
do
or
build
or
dig
or
whatever.
E
We
already
have
a
beautification
committee,
and
I
see
no
reason
to
again
spend
more
money
and
time
with
a
board
when
you
have
people
in
charge
of
departments
who
do
know
what
can
and
can't
be
done
and
how
green
can
be
incorporated
into
it.
Perfect
example
is
kevin,
as
public
works
head
is
incorporating
green
into
like
the
basins
he's
building
and
stuff.
So
that's
constantly
on
his
mind
and
he's
putting
it
in
where
he
can't
the
last
one
is
violence,
gun
violence,
criminals
aren't
interested
so
you're
wasting
your
time.
E
A
group
already
exists.
If
you
want
to
do
some
kind
of
more
of
a
investigation
or
whatever
and
that's
the
pscrv
board
and
last
is,
I
would
suggest
repealing
a
lot
of
the
laws
that
were
put
into
effect
on
local
and
whatever
law
enforcement,
because
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
you're
having
a
lot
of
increase
in
gun
violence,
not
only
here
but
all
over?
Luckily,
it's
not
so
bad
yet
here,
but
it's
getting
that
way.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you,
and
I
think
you
said
the
one
email
that
came
in
earlier
was
actually
for
a
different
meeting.
Correct.
B
That
is
correct.
I
did
have
a
one
come
in
late
and
there
was
no
name
tied
to
it.
Nor
could
I
take
a
name
from
the
email,
so
it
has
not
been
shared,
but
it
emailed
the
individual
back.
So
just
want
to
put
that
on
record
that
we
did
try.
A
A
Okay.
Moving
on
to
the
consent
agenda,
we
have
just
one
item
on
the
consent
agenda,
which
is
just
approving
the
minutes
from
the
january
10th
meeting.
A
Can
I
get
a
does
anybody
have
a
motion
to
make
on
this
almost.
A
Okay,
we've
got
a
motion
and
a
second
are
we
doing
voice
vote
on
this
one
yeah.
E
G
D
A
Okay
consent
agenda
approved
moving
on
to
our
regular
agenda
up
first
on
the
regular
agenda
is
presentation
of
the
fy
2023
budget
capital
projects,
as
requested
by
the
finance
department,
one
small
change
made
to
this.
I
think
the
agenda
said
that
we
were
going
to
have
a
presentation
by
each
director
and
then
time
for
questions.
A
H
I
Thank
you,
city
manager,
gleason,
mayor
council,
teed
up
nicely.
I
appreciate
that
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
material
challenges
that
we
have
with
the
budget
is
trying
to
communicate
and
make
sense
of
these
very
large
numbers.
You
know
the
community
is
concerned
with,
will
I
be
paying
more
for
what
I'm
getting?
Will
I
be
getting
less?
I
How
are
my
dollars
being
put
to
work?
You
know,
how
is
the
budget
going
to
impact
me
so
next
slide
bring
up
the
presentation.
Please.
A
They're
working
on
that
right,
council
member
becker,
they're
working
on
it
right
now,
I
just
saw
the
slide
pop
up.
Do
you
see
it?
Okay,.
I
Okay,
you
can
see
the
slides
now:
okay,
cool,
okay,
so
tonight's
goal
really
is
to
provide
some
some
tangible
visibility
on
the
budget
dollars
at
work.
The
capital
improvement
projects.
We
have
nearly
57
million
dollars
being
proposed
for
the
fy
2023
fiscal
year.
That's
nearly
21
of
the
total
city-wide
budget.
So
there's
there's
some
material
impacts
on
the
community
related
to
these
projects
and
we're
fortunate
enough
to
have
the
three
main
directors
that
will
be
in
charge
of
these
projects.
Going
to
present
the
details.
I
Tonight
we
have
russ
waller,
the
director
of
facilities,
eric
field,
the
director
of
parks
and
rec
and
kevin
cothy.
The
director
of
public
works.
So
I'm
going
to
flip
it
right
over
to
these
guys
so
that
we
can
get
going
and
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
these,
the
budget
dollars
and
being
put
work
and
impacting
the
community
directly.
So
next
slide,
please
and
russ.
J
Well,
thank
you,
scott.
Thank
you,
mayor
pro
council,
I'm
here
to
present
to
you
the
proposed
projects
we
have
for
the
facilities
department,
this
coming
fiscal
year,
23.
start
with
the
biggest
one,
and
that
is
the
arena
rtu
and
ice
center.
Dehumidification
improvements
project
is
a
very
substantial
project,
the
biggest
project
in
highest
value
project.
In
our
proposed
plan.
J
Excuse
me:
the
the
base
of
the
project
is
to
replace
the
large
rooftop
units
that
are
on
the
arena
and
those
are
the
ones
that
serve
the
bowl.
The
primary
arena
event
area
the
size
of
those
are
about
they're
about
the
size
of
a
semi
truck
is
what
each
one
of
those
and
there's
two
of
them.
So
those
existing
units
are
in
very
poor
condition.
J
In
addition
to
looking
at
just
a
direct
replacement,
we've
hired
a
consultant
to
help
us
to
do
evaluation
of
those
units
and
to
look
for
ways.
We
could
do
improvements
of
the
entire
system
and
look
for
ways
where
we
could
basically
reduce
some
energy
use
that
that
facility
does,
because
that
is
one
one
of
the
biggest
primary
uses
of
energy
is
the
rtus
so
that
that
preliminary
evaluation
is
ongoing.
J
Right
now,
we've
got
some
initial
feedback,
but
some
options
that
they
are
looking
at
would
be
to
replace
the
units
and
then
add
dehumidification
to
the
the
entire
facilities
entire
building.
Right
now,
if
we
have
to
dehumidify
the
air,
if
it's
a
moist
evening
and
we've
got
an
event
going
on
the
only
way
we
can
dehumidify
that
air
is
to
run
the
heaters,
we
basically
dry
the
air
out
with
the
heaters,
so
we're
burning
gas
to
dry
the
air,
and
then
we
turn
around
and
cool
it
back
down
depending
on
the
conditions.
J
We
need
to
then
put
it
into
the
facility
to
keep
the
occupants
in
a
good
condition.
That's
very,
very
inefficient
use,
and
it's
very
expensive
to
do
that.
If
you
separate
those
systems
and
provide
a
standalone
dehumidification,
much
more
efficient
uses
a
whole
lot.
Less
energy,
it's
just
the
upfront,
substantial
or
upfront
cost
to
provide
that
infrastructure
that
does
not
exist
can
be
substantial.
J
So
when
we
do
come
back
to
council
with
options
after
this
evaluation
is
done,
we're
going
to
provide
options
and
estimated
costs
for
those
options.
So
basically
the
just
to
give
you
the
highlights.
One
of
the
options
would
be
just
a
direct
replacement
of
the
rtus,
no
energy
savings.
We
just
replaced
what
we
got.
We
provide
a
cost
for
that.
Another
one
would
be
to
place
the
units
add.
This
dehumidification
provide
some
rate
of
return
on
what
that
additional
cost.
J
The
savings
would
be
over
a
period
of
time
and
then
obviously
the
cost
to
do
that,
we
could
also
replace
the
units
and
with
a
interior
dehumidification
not
quite
as
efficient
as
a
separate
demonstration,
but
it
still
does
provide
some
energy
reduction
and
then
the
option
that
we
don't
want
to
pursue,
but
it
is
an
option,
is
to
just
continue
maintaining
what
we
got.
We
can
spend
money
on
them.
It's
not
advisable.
J
There
currently
are
22
systems
which
can
no
longer
no
longer
produce
r22.
You
can
still
buy
it,
but
it's
very
expensive.
So
my
recommendation,
I
would
be,
but
not
to
choose
that
option.
So
in
addition
to
that,
we
have
also
coupled
this
project
with
the
bloomington
ice
center.
That
part
of
the
facility
does
have
dehumidification,
except
that
system
is,
is
old
enough
at
this
point
that
it's
showing
signs
of
wear
and
replacement
repairs
that
have
been
done.
J
So
we
do
need
to
replace
that
unit
with
a
new
unit
and
a
better
dehumidification
system,
we're
also
going
to
add
some
redundancy
when
we
do
that,
so
there's
only
one
unit
at
this
time.
If
it
does
go
down,
we
have
no
facility
or
no
way
to
operate
the
facility,
so
we
would
add
another
unit
with
humidification
to
provide
that
redundancy.
J
I
did
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
that
one
last
thing
I
guess
I
was
asked
about
duct
cleaning
as
far
as
this
project.
That's
typically
not
done
when
you
get
into
larger
scale
facilities
like
this.
The
size
of
these
ducts
are
three
and
four
foot
diameter.
J
Really,
the
only
way
to
clean
them
would
be
to
physically
go
in
there
and
clean
them.
There
are
some
mechanical
methods
of
doing
it,
but
it
just
typically
is
not
done
given
the
size.
We
could
add
that
as
a
potential
option
included
in
the
bid
just
to
see
what
kind
of
pricing
we
get
and
if
it's
reasonable,
we
could
pursue
possibly
some
duck
cleaning
at
the
same
time
but,
like
I
said,
that's
not
not
a
typical,
so
I
did
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
that
I'll
move
a
little
quicker
with
the
next
one.
J
So
fire
department
is
not
here
to
present
this,
but
I've
asked
to
say
that
we
are
assisting
a
fire
department.
Both
facilities
and
public
works
are
working
with
them
to
do
some
parking
lot
repairs
at
their
headquarters
station
moving
on
the
unforeseen
major
facilities
repair.
This
is
a
standard
line
item
that
we
have
every
year
is
just
put
in
there
in
case
emergencies
arise.
If
unforeseen
issue
arises,
that
we
did
not
budget
for
that
gives
us
some
money
to
take
care
of
these
emergency
repairs,
so
the
police
administration,
hvac
controls
upgrade.
J
This
is
also
another
project.
We've
been
working
on
for
quite
some
time,
the
once
again
we're
looking
with
a
system.
That's
relatively
old.
It's
the
original
system
in
the
facility.
It's
showing
age
we're
having
trouble
finding
components
to
repair
it.
It
also
is
a
proprietary
system,
the
actual
control
system.
So
anytime
we
go
to
do
any
maintenance
or
repair
on
it.
We
have
to
hire
essentially
a
firm
that
has
the
special
software
special
ability
to
get
into
the
the
automation
system.
J
It's
at
the
point
that
we
would
probably
just
scrap
the
system
and
replace
it
with
a
new
one.
That's
an
open
protocol
system
that
allows
any
vendor
to
come
in
and
work
on
it
assuming
they
have
that
expertise,
but
it
does
not
require
proprietary
software.
Anything
like
that,
so
part
of
this
would
be
an
evaluation
of
the
actual
system,
but
the
other
part
would
be
to
actually
replace
components,
replace
units
in
order
to
bring
the
system
basically
back
into
a
completely
automated
operable
system.
J
It's
functioning
at
this
point,
but
a
lot
of
the
stuff
we
have
to
do
is
now
manual
adjust
the
jackson
street
remodel.
This
is
phase
two,
so
we
just
completed
phase
one,
which
is
a
remodel
of
the
office
space,
actually
facilities,
administrative
staff
will
be
moving
there
tomorrow.
So
that's
the
front
office
area.
That's
complete
the
next
stage
of
that
would
be
to
remodel
the
shop
and
our
storage
area.
J
Currently,
the
facility
maintenance
crew
works
out
of
the
lower
level
of
the
lincoln
garage,
a
very
confined
space
not
conducive
to
doing
much
of
any
kind
of
maintenance
there
just
very
difficult
to
operate
out
of
the
phase.
Two
would
be
a
remodel
of
the
back
portion
of
that
facility
to
provide
storage
for
materials,
so
we
don't
have
to
run
to
the
store
to
buy
anything
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
We
get
a
call
we'd
have
that
product
available
to
us
on
the
shelf.
J
We
could
take
it,
go
out
and
do
repairs
at
a
facility
and
not
have
to
you
know,
pay
a
service
charge
or
special
survey
charges
to
open
up
a
building
or
open
up
a
facility
to
prior
parts.
So
it's
a
must
needed
improvement
to
be
able
to
let
us
to
use
that
the
entire
facility
for
our
department,
city
hall,
ada
life
safety
improvements.
This
is
also
a
relatively
substantial
project,
but,
as
we
were
looking
at
evaluating
existing
facilities
and
space
needs
for
the
entire
the
city,
we
did
stumble
upon.
J
Some
issues
at
city
hall,
there
are
some
concerns
with
ada
primary
one
being
the
elevator.
There
are
some
external
sidewalk
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed.
It's
one
of
those
things
that
you
know
you
go
in
there
day
to
day,
but
you
don't
necessarily
realize
it
until
you
actually
start
looking
at
it
and
which
we
did
as
part
of
that
evaluation.
J
The
amount
of
money
we
have
budgeted
should
take
care
of
those
issues.
We
do
have
some
more
investigation
to
be
done
to
make
sure
that
we
are
addressing
it
appropriately
and
we're
going
to
prioritize
those
repairs
to
make
sure
we
get
the
most
critical
ones
done.
First,
we're
hoping
that
that'll
cover
everything,
but
we're
kind
of
hedging
our
bets
that
if
we
don't
get
to
it,
we
would
have
to
come
and
do
a
staged
approach
do
a
few
of
them
one
year
and
then
budget
again
for
the
following
year.
J
To
finish
those
out
along
the
same
lines
is
the
next
one,
the
city
hall
gen
set
replacement.
We
did
that's
another
life
safety
one,
but
we
budgeted
separately
specifically
because
that
one
really
we
can't
prioritize
out
it-
is
a
major
priority.
The
existing
system,
the
existing
generators,
is
basically
nearing
the
end
of
its
light.
J
Useful
life,
our
fleet
department,
maintains
it
and
they
pretty
much
told
us
that
you
need
to
replace
it
this
year,
so
that
the
reason
it
is
a
critical
replacement
and
it
needs
to
move
forward-
is
that
generator
provides
emergency
backup
power
for
city
hall,
which
includes
the
I.t
servers
and
the
police
department's
computer-aided
dispatch
system,
so
that
does
need
to
be
replaced
to
keep
those
items
functional
market
street
garage
structural
repairs.
I
know
you've
seen
this
repairs
to
the
garage
many
times
and
you're
sick
of
spending
money
on
that.
We
understand
that.
J
J
However,
with
the
amount
of
time
it's
going
to
take
us
to
complete
the
evaluation
of
downtown
parking
to
look
at
a
new
facility
to
replace
that
garage,
it's
going
to
take
a
few
years,
and
so
we're
asking
to
go
back
finish
out
the
structural
repairs
that
we
did
not
get
completed
to
make
sure
we
keep
that
garage,
operational
and
safe
during
that
interim
and
then
lastly,
is
the
along.
The
same
veins
is
repairs
of
the
abraham
lincoln
garage,
as
with
any
facility
like
this
over
time.
J
It
shows
age,
it
shows
a
wear
and
tear,
and
that
garage
is
at
that
point,
the
the
last
time
we
spent
any
money
on
that
facility
was
2015..
So
it's
been
a
few
years
we
spent
about
250
000
for
structural
repairs.
We've
had
an
evaluation
done
by
a
structural
engineer.
This
past
fall.
J
They
came
back
to
us
with
essentially
two
million
dollars
in
repairs,
but
we
put
that
split
that
over
several
years,
three
to
four
years
is
what
they're
saying
we
could
get
by
taking
care
of
the
most
important
structural
issues
and
some
drainage
concerns
to
take
care
of
that
for
the
first
year.
So
we're
going
to
do
in
that
project
over
a
stage
process
with
that
I'll
turn
this
over
to
eric
field.
K
K
These
are
not
city
funds,
but
they
are
through
the
ac3
grant
from
the
rebuild
illinois
projects
fund
through
the
illinois
arts
council,
through
the
friends
of
the
bcpa
to
the
city,
to
work
on
the
ongoing
project
that
we
have
there
at
the
creativity
center
first
park
project
is
the
sweeney
park,
playground
and
amenities.
K
We
have
combined
this
request
of
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
where
we
should
get
half
of
that
back
if
we
get
the
ozlad
grant,
which
is
the
open
space,
land
acquisition
and
development
grant,
which
we
should
know
here
in
the
next
month
or
two,
and
that
will
improve
that
park,
which
is
actually
grass
right
now,
because
it
is
one
of
the
new
parks
that
was
donated
land
by
the
sweeney
family,
mcgraw
tennis
court
resurface
that
is
listed
for
220
thousand
dollars.
K
K
Tipton
trails
and
constitution
trail.
So
last
year
there
was
some
streambed
erosion
and
part
of
the
trail
had
to
be
fixed,
not
related
to
our
department,
but
we
have
learned
that
we
should
fix
use
this
money
to
put
a
one
and
a
half
inch
overlay
on
the
areas
that
were
not
affected
are
fixed
last
year
with
the
stream
bed
erosion
and
go
pretty
much.
We
hope
to
go
from
hershey
to
airport
road.
K
K
K
This
is
the
lifeblood
of
our
course.
If
we
do
not
water
the
course,
then
the
coarse
grass
will
die
and
we
won't
have
a
course
so
that'd
be
a
problem.
Ancillary
shed
and
demo
replace
with
the
rinse
aid
pad.
The
rinse
aid
pad
is
required
by
the
state
of
illinois.
We
have
to.
We
have
an
agreement
with
els
outside
right
now
to
use
that.
But
if
we
get
this
rebuilt,
then
we
have
the
use
of
this
for
both
golf
and
the
parks
division,
which
will
help
us
in
the
future
going
forward.
K
So
I'm
a
little
bit
shorter
than
russ,
but
we're
going
on
to
director
of
public
works.
Mr
kevin
coffey.
L
Thank
you,
mr
veal.
Good
evening.
Everyone
I've
got
a
number
of
pages
to
go
through,
but
we'll
kind
of
group
it
together.
A
lot
of
these
projects
are
ones
that
you've
already
are
familiar
with
and
we'll
start
out
with
the
state
motor
fuel
tax,
which
includes
our
fox
creek
road
and
bridge
project,
which
has
been
ongoing
for
a
number
of
years.
L
We've
got
a
number
of
different
line
items
here
to
tackle
different
issues
and
where
we're
at
on
that
project
is
we're
actively
working
on
right-of-way
acquisition.
L
That's
probably
the
the
biggest
thing
right
now,
and
you
know
some
of
these
numbers
are
just
to
finish
out
the
land
acquisition
design
dealing
with
the
railroad
and
we
hope
to
move
this
project
forward
as
soon
as
we
can,
which
likely
would
be
maybe
next
spring
as
far
as
bidding
this
for
construction,
we're
hoping
to
get
there
street
lighting
charges.
L
This
is
a
line
item
that
we
have
in
the
budget
every
year
that
provides
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
street
lights,
just
just
the
energy
costs
and
the
the
providing
the
pulls
and
the
lights,
and
everything
like
that.
This
is
not
the
entire
cost
to
the
city
for
street
lighting,
but
this
is
just
the
portion
we
fund
out
the
mft
budget
for
that
hamilton
road.
L
Another
project
that's
been
in
the
works
for
years
and
you're
all
familiar
with
that
once
again,
we're
we're
in
the
midst
of
right-of-way
acquisition,
we're
probably
just
past
60
percent
on
the
right-of-way
on
that
we've
got
tentative
agreement
with
the
railroad
we're
looking
to
file
the
icc
petition
we're
hoping
to
make
this
into
a
fall
of
this
year,
letting
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
parts
and
pieces
to
this
that
have
to
come
together.
We're
actively
working
to
deliver
that
these
line
items
together,
don't
represent
the
entire
money.
L
For
this
there's
also
federal
stu
money.
We
call
it
surface
transportation,
urban
money,
that's
about
5.9
million
dollars
that
will
be
in
addition
to
this
to
to
fund
the
construction
of
all
these
parts
and
pieces.
With
the
hamilton
road
project,
we
have
cottage
avenue
bridge
design.
This
is
you
know
on
the
west.
Side
of
bloomington
goes
across
sugar
creek.
The
bridge
deck
was
identified
many
years
ago
as
needing
some
help,
and-
and
it
was
patched
back
in
the
day,
but
it's
time
for
that
bridge
deck
to
be
replaced.
L
This
is
the
design
for
that.
The
next
line
item
for
jersey,
avenue,
bridge
jersey
avenue,
has
been
in
design.
It's
it's
nearing
completion
as
far
as
design
goes,
and
this
would
be
the
1.8
million
to
to
replace
the
bridge
deck
and
do
some
work
on
that
bridge.
That
is
needed
has
needed
repairs
for
a
long
time.
L
Next,
page
next
slide
for
our
capital
projects.
We
have
rob
on
kickapoo
creek
subdivision
payment
oversizing.
This
would
be
for
kickapoo
creek
road,
the
sixth
edition
to
the
grove.
This
would
be
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
contribution
from
the
city
to
pay
for
extra
width
on
kickapoo
creek
road
kickapoo
creek
road
is
designated
as
an
arterial
road.
It
is
built
as
a
four-lane
road,
it's
bigger
than
a
standard
30-foot
residential
street.
That
would
be
the
city's
share
for
oversizing.
L
That's
the
budget
amount,
the
actual
amount
will
be
whatever
it
works
out
to
be.
When,
when
the
you
know
project
the
developer,
obviously
you
know
pays
for
it
and
then
we
pay
our
share,
but
this
is
our
budget
amount
for
that
we've
got
in
here
for
assistance,
convenience
center
land
acquisition,
as
you
all
know,
we're
going
through
the
hydraulic
study
for
the
east
street
basin
conceptual.
L
You
know
to
help
with
the
storm
water
issues
we
had
earlier
this
year.
As
that
project
moves
forward,
you
know
we
could
end
up
needing
to
have
that
land
where
the
citizens
convenience
center
is
located
as
part
of
the
basin.
If
we
do
that,
then
we
got
to
find
another
place
to
put
the
citizens
convenience
center.
This
is
a
budget
amount
just
to
move.
That
forward,
should
that
prove
out
with
the
hydraulic,
modeling
and
design
for
that
proposed
e
street
basin
wiley
at
maple
hill
road
intersection
improvements.
L
This
roughly
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
to
improve
the
stuff
there
at
the
wiley
and
maple
hill
intersection.
There
is
some
concrete
pavement
deterioration,
but
there's
also
some
lack
of
pedestrian
accommodations.
We
know
in
that
area.
There's
you
know.
Bus
stops,
there's
also
a
lot
of
people
that
do
walking
between
the
apartments
and
the
stores
and
so
forth.
This
would
improve
that
intersection.
L
This
six
hundred
thousand
includes
a
rebuild
illinois,
grant
that
the
city
has
received
from
dco
200
000,
it's
a
reimbursable
grant,
so
we
would
up
front
the
money
and
then
we
get
200
000
of
that
back
through
the
dco
reimbursement.
L
So
the
city's
out
of
pocket
would
be
more
like
400
000
instead
of
600
000,
and
then
we
have
our
annual
budgets
that
we
use,
for
you,
know
our
multi-year
street
and
alley
resurfacing
program.
This
is
very
similar
to
numbers
that
you've
seen
in
past
budgets.
This
particular
item
includes
everything
from
the
actual
resurfacing
program
to
you
know:
payment
patching
payment
preservation,
all
those
different
items
come
are
part
of
that
5.65
million
dollars
and
then
the
multi-year
sidewalk
repair
program
very
similar
numbers
to
past
years.
L
You
know
1.15
million
dollars
and
then
the
multi-year
street
alley
and
sidewalk
repairs
that
200
000
is
just
used
to
do
different
repairs
throughout
town
as
they
come
up
in
a
utility
maintenance
contract
that
we
have
so
next
slide.
Please.
L
We're
moving
into
the
enterprise
funds
now,
and
this
is
the
water
enterprise
fund
and
I'm
gonna
kind
of
go
through
this
kind
of
rapidly,
because
you'll
see
that
in
the
water
fund,
the
sewer
fund
and
the
storm
water
fund,
a
lot
of
these
projects
are
in
each
one
because
there's
different
components
to
it,
so
fox
creek
road
bridge
improvements.
You
already
heard
me
talk
about
that.
This
is
just
the
water
main
component
to
that
project.
L
Locus
colton,
we're
very
familiar
with
that.
This
is
phase
four
and
five
land
acquisition
and
then
construction
dollars.
We've
also,
you
know,
phase
eight
locus
colton
the
phase
four
and
five
is
the
part
that
we
accelerated.
If
you
remember
and
then
phase
eight
is
also
accelerated
earlier
than
originally
planned,
because
four
and
five
are
moving
up,
but
we
want
to
get
get
moving
with
the
design
on
phase
eight
this
next
year.
There's
components
for
all
these,
like
I
said
in
the
other
two
enterprise
funds
as
well.
L
Here
we
have
again
grove
on
kickapoo
creek's,
subdivision
oversizing.
This
would
be
for
the
water
main
along
kickapoo
creek
road,
a
35,
000
budget
item
multi-year
gis
consultant
services.
This
is
some
consultant
services
we
use
to
help
us.
We've
got
staff
that
works
with
rgis,
but
this
is
a
multi-year
service
that
we're
using
a
consultant
to
help
us
do
more
accelerated
upgrades
with
our
gis,
and
that
has
been
very
productive.
L
In
the
last
two
years.
Multi-Year
consultant
leak
detection
for
water
loss.
We've
used
line
items
like
this
before
this
helps
us
determine
where,
in
the
city
we
might
have
water
mains
that
are
leaking.
You
know
we
have
a
certain
amount
of
water
loss
as
what
is
produced.
The
plant
is
not
all
delivered
to
a
home
and
metered,
so
this
is
to
help
find
those,
maybe
they're
small
leaks.
They
don't
come
to
the
surface,
but
to
find
those
and-
and
you
know,
prevent
a
major
leak
later
on
a
major
break.
L
The
van
scoic
we've
got
in
here
money
for
construction
and
for
construction
engineering
inspection.
This
is
a
project
that
we're
working
on
getting
consultant,
hired
right
now
to
design
they'll,
be
coming
back
to
you
soon
to
get
that
design.
Contract
going,
but
this
would
be
construction
and
construction
inspection,
the
water
treatment,
plant,
lime,
grit
removal
system
design.
L
This
would
help
us
with
our
clear
cones.
We
have
a
grit
that
builds
up
in
there
and
this
this
removal
system
would
help
us,
so
we
don't
have
to
take
the
clear
cones
offline
and
do
a
lot
of
manual
cleaning
that
we
do
today.
We
have
for
the
water
treatment
plant
again
chlorine,
gas,
scrubber
system.
This
would
be
construction
dollars
and
also
the
treatment
plant
ammonia
system.
L
These
are
both
life
safety
issues
that
are
critical
for
the
plant
to
get
for
us
to
get
that
addressed
so
that
we
don't
don't
end
up
with
a
very
bad
situation,
as
those
are
both
very
hazardous
chemicals
to
work
with,
and
this
is
an
upgrade
to
the
system
to
to
make
it
safer
for
everybody.
That's
up
there
working
in
the
plant,
we
got
a
re
reservoir,
shoreline
stream
erosion
planning
and
then
some
construction
and
improvements.
This
is
all
related
to
lake
bloomington
evergreen
lake.
L
With
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we've
done
in
the
past,
we
showed
some.
You
know
wrap-up
pictures
last
year
that
showed
the
rip-rap
that
was
placed
along
the
the
banks
of
the
of
the
lake
and
stuff
to
control
the
shoreline
erosion
and
stuff
we
also
have
in
in
the
watershed
improvements
line
item
matching
money
for
grant
opportunities.
L
You
know
we
work
closely
with
the
mclean
county,
soil
and
water
conservation
district
and
look
for
opportunities
where
we
can
partner
to
make
our
money
go
further,
and
so
that
this
is
also
matching
money
for
grant
opportunities,
lake
bloomington
maintenance
facility,
construction
and
construction
observation.
This
is
the
lake
maintenance
facility
that
burned
a
few
years
ago.
This
would
be
you
know,
building
a
replacement
building
and
and
getting
the
construction
observation
to
get
that
building
built
this
year,
lake
bloomington
sea
wall
replacement.
L
We
had
an
area
just
to
the
northwest
of
the
treatment
plant
that
had
the
the
seawall
failed.
It
fell
into
the
lake.
There's
some
sloughing
off
this.
This
would
be
to
re
to
repair
that
area
boiler
replacement
division
street.
That
building
is
all
is
coming
up
on
20
years
old.
The
boiler
is
out
of
date.
Parts
are
hard
to
get
it's
time
for
it
to
be
replaced
and
then
fort
jesse
generator
replacement.
This
is
our
pump
stations
at
fort
jesse.
L
We
have
you
know
two
tanks,
two
pump
stations
there,
the
the
generators
need
to
be
replaced
and
some
electrical
system
upgrades
need
to
be
done
to
ensure
that
our
pump
stations
have
power
backups
and
are
they're
reliably
there
to
to
pump
water
into
the
city.
So
next
slide,
please
the
sewer
fund.
Once
again,
I
said
that
you
know
we
would
have
multiple
pieces
here
to
like
locus
colton,
that's
the
case
here,
but
you'll
also
see
in
the
first
line
multi-year
sanitary
sewer
assessment.
L
That's
our
traditionally,
mostly
our
cctv,
along
with
some
other
techniques
to
make
sure
we're
checking
on
our
sewers
and
evaluating
them,
and
then
the
locus
colton
projects,
the
multi-year
sanitary
sewer
rehabilitation,
that's
principally
lining
of
sewers,
but
could
include
other
rehabilitation
methods.
We've
been
very
aggressive.
Trying
to
to
you,
know,
assess
the
sewers
and
then
fix
them
as
we
find
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed.
L
L
Is
that
the
city's
option?
We?
We
don't
necessarily
have
to
do
this,
but
this
is
a
key
sewer
piece,
because
this
is
an
extension
to
the
north.
That
would
ultimately
serve
areas
east
of
tawanda
barnes
road.
So,
a
few
years
ago
there
was
another
piece
that
goes
off
to
the
east.
That
was
with
the
seventh
addition
to
the
grove
the
council
expressed
their
wishes
that
they
didn't
want
to
oversize
that
one,
and
so
we
didn't
that
one
was
kept
just
at
the
size
needed
for
the
subdivision.
L
That
extension
to
the
east
would
have
gone
and
served
areas
east
of
2100
east
roads
that
that's
like
way
out
there,
but
this
extension
would
go
to
the
north
and
if,
if
we
don't
do
it,
we're
basically
saying
that
we're
not
interested
in
any
more
growth
out
in
that
area
of
empire
street?
Or
you
know,
east
of
tawana
barnes
road,
there's
a
little
bit
that
can
be
served
there.
L
Just
south
of
saint
pat
smyrna
and
harvest
point
subdivision
those
areas
go
to
what
we
call
the
sugar
creek
watershed,
but
most
of
this
area
of
the
grove
is
in
the
kickapoo
creek
watershed
and
that's
what
the
you
know:
the
hump
station
force
main
and
everything
that's
been
invested
in
out
there.
That's
meant
to
serve
that
area
that
that
pretty
much
covers
that
area
mainly
east
of
tawanda
barnes,
but
it
goes
all
the
way
up
past
ye
road
to
the
north.
L
So
it's
a
large
area
on
the
east
side
that
if
we
don't
do
that,
we're
not
positioning
ourselves
for
the
future.
So
there
might
be
some
more
questions
on
that
later,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
bring
that
to
light
and
then
hydraulic,
modeling
phase,
one
this
you
know
we
we
with
our
initial
project
with
the
e
street
basin,
are
doing
hydraulic
modeling
with
this.
L
But
this
is
additional
hydraulic
modeling
beyond
that
initial
stuff,
that
that
would
include
areas
further
out
that
were
also
impacted
with
the
flooding
and
so
forth,
and
then
the
stormwater
fund,
basically
a
repeat
of
the
locus
colton
projects
and
then
the
hydraulic
modeling,
because,
as
you
know,
with
with
most
of
these
sewer
projects
that
involve
the
combined
sewers,
we're
taking
the
funding
half
from
sewer
and
half
from
storm,
because
the
combined
sewers
carry
both.
So
that's
in
essence
how
that
that
plays
out
and
next
slide.
Please
with
that.
A
Thank
you.
Everybody
really
appreciate
the
information.
I
know
this
is
always
kind
of
a
a
big
chunk
for
residents
to
understand
what
we're
doing
and
why
we're
doing
it
and
the
I
think
we
keep
getting
better
every
year
with
these
presentations
in
terms
of
presenting
information
to
the
residents,
so
they
can
really
have
a
better
idea
of
what
we're
doing.
You
know
we
started
off
with
a
budget
book.
The
you
know
won
a
bunch
of
awards.
Then
we
did
the
bloomington
or
the
budget
101
series
and
then
these
as
well.
A
I
think
all
three
of
those
kind
of
work
together
very
well
to
make
educated
and
informed
citizens.
So
thank
you.
Let's
open
this
up
to
questions
and
I
see
molly's
hand.
First,
council,
member
ward,
what's
going.
M
On
thank
you.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions.
Thanks
for
the
presentation,
everyone,
this
is
really
helpful
and
every
time
I'm
I'm
hearing
this
information.
I
I
have
more
more
knowledge
and
more
questions.
Just
one
clarification
on
the
slide
that
made
reference
to
work
on
the
cottage
avenue
bridge.
M
We
only
have
one
cottage
avenue
right,
that's
so
it
said
it
was
in
ward
five.
I
think
that
might
be
a
mistake.
Is
it
ward?
Seven
I
mean
cottage
avenue
right
over
yep.
M
That
might
just
need
to
be
clarified.
Okay
and
then,
in
a
couple
of
instances
there
were
references
to
to
receiving
grants
or
funding
from
other
from
other
sources,
and
I
could
you
just
help
me
understand
what
happens
to
the
money,
then
that
isn't
used,
because
it's
it's
coming
from
another
source,
besides
the
city.
So
I'm
thinking
in
particular
of
the
the
improvements
to
the
intersection
at
wiley
and
maple
hill,
and
you
mentioned
mr
kothi
that
there
would
be
like
around
hundred
thousand
dollars
coming
from
another
source.
L
Yeah
and-
and
I
might
defer
to
scott
on
that-
you
want
to
take
it
scott.
I
Yeah,
so
this
is
a
basically
the
financials
or
the
the
reserves
and
everything
are
a
fun
by
fund
basis.
So
any
dollars
that
come
back
into,
let's
say:
there's
a
grant
specifically
for
the
water
fund
and
we're
budgeting
a
half
million
dollars,
but
we
get
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
back.
Well,
that's
gonna!
Just
it's
gonna
come
back
into
the
water
fund
for
as
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
grant
proceeds,
revenues
to
be
utilized
for
future
projects,
so
it'll
just
be
part
of
the
the
financial
reserves
of
the
fund
to
be
utilized
for
future
purposes.
M
L
Well,
I
I
think
that
you
know
part
of
it
is
that
we
have
to
front
the
money
right
and
then
we
get
reimbursed
as
we
go.
So
some
of
the
projects
like
with
the
stu
funding
the
state
actually
controls
that
we
bid
it
that
and
then
we
actually
with
the
progress
payments,
we'll
we'll
reimburse
the
state
for
the
expenditure.
But
in
this
case
the
city
you
know,
has
to
have
the
money
up
front
and
then
we
submit
for
reimbursement
later.
L
H
L
A
Okay
next
hand
I
saw
was
council
member
bolin.
N
Thank
you.
This
presentation
was
very
educational.
I
have
a
few
questions.
What
is
the
timeline
to
finish
up
the
parking
evaluation.
J
I
can
give
you
an
approximation
of
that
councilmember
bolin,
the
we
do
have
a
draft
report
of
that.
It's
not
100
complete,
so
they're,
estimating
it's
going
to
take
them
about
another
month
to
two
months
to
get
the
remainder
of
that.
So
we
should
receive
that
full
final
report,
that
includes
estimates
for
a
new
garage,
includes
all
the
detail.
We're
waiting
to
make
determinations
within
a
couple
of
months.
J
I
think
that's
probably
part
of
a
bigger
discussion
that
could
be
ongoing
with
administration
as
far
as
what
we
do
at
this
point,
we're
just
going
to
receive
that
report.
That
shows
the
evaluation
of
the
parking
needs
and
then
what
they
believe
would
be
a
replacement
facility,
which
includes
some
estimates
of
where
it
would
go
and
the
cost
of
construction.
But
you
know
what
could
happen
with
some
other
things
is
still
kind
of
up
in
here.
N
Okay
and
then
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment
about
the
pump
at
the
den
that's
basically
recycling
the
water,
that's
out
there
in
the
water
features.
Is
that
correct.
N
Okay,
because
one
of
my
residents
actually
several
were
concerned
about
the
condition
of
the
of
the
golf
course
those
that
golf.
So
I'm
glad
to
see
that
that's
being
addressed,
I
can
pass
that
information
on
and
I
asked
about
the
start
of
the
construction
for
fox,
creek
and
hamilton,
and
I
think
you
mentioned
it.
Could
you
give
that
date
of
groundbreaking.
L
Yeah
so
for
hamilton
road,
we
are
looking
at
bidding
the
project
in
the
fall
of
this
year
this
calendar
year
and
we're
hoping
to
get
fox
creek
out
to
bid
in
the
spring
of
basically
a
year.
From
now.
L
Yeah,
the
construction,
realistically,
you
know,
would
would
start.
You
know
when,
in
the
spring
of
you
know,
calendar
year,
23
is
our
goal
right
now:
okay,.
N
L
N
I
know
you've
been
working
very
hard
to
get
this
done
and
all
those
pieces
up
in
the
air,
but
my
residents
want
to
know.
N
Yeah,
I
know
I
know,
and
then
I
guess
I'd
like
to
know
how
many
miles
are
actually
going
to
be
resurfaced
or
treated
with
the
current
budget.
I
know
you're,
probably
going
to
put
out
a
map
of
what's
going
to
be
covered
in
the
future.
L
Right
we
can
have
that
at
the
the
total
miles
with
the
map,
and
I
don't
have
that
before
me
tonight:
okay,
we,
you
know
we
last
year,
you
know
we
were
you,
know
kind
of
working
at
on
two
years
at
a
time
right,
so
we've
got
our.
You
know
current
resurfacing
program
where
we
still
have
streets
to
finish
up
from
last
year
that
are
already
under
contract
and
then
the
the
new
ffy
you
know
23
streets
coming
for
you
know
this
summer
for
bidding.
L
We
already,
you
know
kind
of
established
that
and
obviously
we're
going
to
be
bringing
to
you.
You
know
an
fy24
proposal
here
pretty
soon
as
well
so,
but
we
can
have
those
total
miles
of
proposed
streets
for
you.
Okay,.
N
That'd
be
helpful.
The
last
question
you
mentioned
the
water
treatment
plan
and
that
toxic
stuff
is
that
the
water
treatment
plant
off
of
oakland.
L
No,
this
is
our
our
water
treatment
plant
for
lake
bloomington.
C
Thank
you.
This
is
for
mr
kothi
kevin
you.
We
talked
in
the
three-on-one
with
with
scott
actually
about
this,
so
you
may
or
may
not
have
the
answer,
and
if
you
don't
that's
fine,
but
as
it
relates
to
the
roads,
we
were
talking
about.
What
is
the
capacity
to
do
additional
work
from
the
vendors
you
use
as
well
as
our
own
staff
to
say
you
know
with
what
we've
proposed?
Are
we
at
capacity
for
what
we
can
do,
or
is
there
room
for
more
if
there's
more
dollars
available?
L
City
engineer
craig
shonkweiler,
reached
out
to
you
know
our
main
contractor,
who
does
typically
the
street
resurfacing
year
to
year,
and
there
is
an
additional
capacity
available
there
that
you
know
we.
We
could
increase
the
dollars
for
resurfacing
and-
and
you
know
each
year
that
they
couched
it
with.
There
is
some
variability,
because
this
contractor
also
does
a
lot
of
work.
L
For
you
know
the
state
for
idot
and
other
municipalities
as
well
some
years,
there's
not
as
much
idot
work
going
on
as
others,
so
their
their
capacity
could
be
greatly
enhanced
in
certain
years
and
maybe
not
quite
as
much
in
other
years,
but
at
the
same
time
they
do
have
additional
capacity.
Where
you
know
several
million
dollars.
More
of
work
would
not
be
a
problem
for
them.
A
Okay,
actually
that
brings
a
question
that
I
had
up,
and
this
is
probably
for
kevin
and
maybe
for
tim,
the
budget
actually
has
six
million
dollars
of
asphalt
and
one
million
dollars
of
sidewalk,
and
I
thought
our
goal
was
seven
million
of
asphalt
and
one
million
a
sidewalk,
and
I
didn't
know
if
that
was
related
to.
I
know
that
because
of
kovid
people
have
not
been
driving
as
much
and
we
part
of
our
budget
for
asphalt
relies
on
motor
fuel
tax.
Is
that
why
we're
changing
that
number
up
or
I
was
just
curious?
L
You
know
the
concrete
and
asphalt
fund
is
is
largely
funded
from
the
local
motor
fuel
tax,
along
with,
I
think,
a
quarter
percent
of
sales
tax
as
well,
and-
and
you
know
that
that
revenue
that
we
fund
this
out
of
is
is
you
know,
we're
pretty
much
spending
everything.
That's
there
and
scott.
You
can
jump
in
on
that.
You
probably
have
the
numbers
off
top
of
your
head.
I
Right,
but
I
mean
the
the
goal
really
has
been
that
seven
million
dollar
figure,
so
the
split
has
been
roughly
for
my
recollection
the
same
as
it
is
this
current
year.
It's
there's
been
no
deviation
from
that.
We
we
went
up
to,
I
think
eight
million
dollars
one
year
one
year
to
do
lutz
road
in
addition
to
the
seven
million
dollars
split,
the
way,
we're
we're
doing
it
right
now.
Okay,.
A
I
Well,
I
was
going
to
say
for
the
for
the
coveted
year.
We
still
excuse
me.
We
still
budgeted
the
same
amount,
even
though
we
had
concerns
related
to
local
motor
fuel
tax,
with
the
commitment
that
we
would
have
to
make
up
the
difference,
or
we
would
make
up
the
difference
from
general,
the
general
fund,
if
we
had
to.
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
questions.
Oh
council
member
money.
I
Roads
doing
this
from
memory
it's
between
2.3
and
2.4
million.
It
was
initially
with
the
local
motor
fuel
tax,
four
cents.
It
was
kind
of
a
2.4
million
dollar
split
for
each
one,
so
it
was
2.4
for
the
first
four
cents,
2.4
for
the
second
four
cents
and
then
2.4
for
the
the
home
rule.
So
it's
it's.
It
kind
of
deviates
depending
on
what
we're
projecting
each
year.
I
I
don't
have
the
specific
number,
but
that's
where
we
get
to
that,
roughly
seven
million
dollars
between
those
I
still
break
them
up
into
three
categories,
but
the
the
local
motor
fuel
tax
is
eight
cents
now
approximately
2.3
to
2.4
milli.
F
Thank
you
very
much
and
thanks
again
for
the
presentation
I'll
go
back
to
you
kevin
just
because
that's
that's
a
part
of
the
conversation.
I
was
going
to
ask
about
capacity
as
well.
So
thank
you
nick
for
asking.
I
have
two
questions.
One
is:
how
did
we
get
to
the
7
million,
and
I
know
that
you've
explained
this
before,
but
just
for
the
record,
what
why
is
it?
7
million
of
combined
asphalt
and
sidewalk
work
and
is:
would
it
be
feasible
at
this
stage
in
our
budget
process?
L
Excellent
questions:
you
know
the
two-year
program
that
we
look
at
you
know
as
far
as
picking
the
streets
for
resurfacing
and
so
forth.
Are
you
know,
based
on
this
level
of
funding
available?
So
if
we
said
we
had
more
money
available,
we'd
have
to
go
back.
You
know
we
used
software
to
help
us
with
the
street
selection.
We'd
have
to
go
back
and
pull
in
more,
which
that's
fine.
We
could
do
that.
L
You
know
and-
and
that
would
certainly
help
move
our
streets
forward,
and
you
know
every
year,
as
everyone
knows,
the
price
of
materials
and
labor
and
everything
keeps
going
up.
So
you
know,
while
our
you
know
budget
has
either
remained.
You
know,
basically
the
same
with
the
7
million
or
7.2
million
or
however
you
slice
it.
Our
buying
power
each
year
is
actually
decreasing.
L
So
you
know
that
that
that
hurts
us
in
that
regard,
but
we
had
done
some.
You
know
before
we
have
our
our
we
we're
using
a
a
new
piece
of
software.
We
got
about
three
years
ago
now
to
help
us
with
the
street
selection,
but
prior
to
that
we'd
done
some.
You
know
analysis
on
our
own
in-house
and
figured
we
needed
to
get
to
at
least
you
know
that
seven
million
dollar
level
to
even
be
able
to
keep
up
with
you
know
the
streets
that
we
have
and
try
to
maintain.
L
You
know
the
the
kind
of
rating
that
we're
at
so
you
know,
obviously
now,
because
you
know
we're
several
years
past
and
prices
keep
going
up
and
so
forth.
We're
we're
really
you
know
struggling
to
maintain
and-
and
obviously
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
parts
to
this,
because
we
want
to
be
able
to
use
payment
preservation
to
help
keep
our
streets
in
better
shape
for
longer
and
that
type
of
thing,
as
opposed
to
just
having
to
resurface
streets
and
and
not
getting
that
longevity
out
of
them.
L
So
we're
always
looking
towards
you
know
new
new
techniques,
innovations
and
whatever
that
we
can
prove
out
and
say
hey
this
made
a
difference.
You
know
this.
This
kept
the
street
in
better
condition
for
longer
always
looking
for
those
opportunities
and-
and
you
know
our
city
engineer-
is
a
great
addition
to
our
team.
L
He
has
you
know
some
some
things
that
he
wants
to
try
that
he's
picked
up
at
other
other
communities
in
his
career
as
well,
so
always
looking
for
ways
to
be
more
efficient
with
taxpayer
dollars
and
get
our
streets
in
better
condition.
F
Okay,
that's
that's
helpful.
Thank
you
and
my
another
question
the
hamilton
road
project,
if
you
could
just
provide
a
very
brief
rationale
for
why,
from
your
point
of
view,
this
is
a
really
important
project
that
we
invest
in
and
we
get
going
on.
L
Yeah,
you
know
the
the
city
over
the
last.
You
know,
probably
over
25
years
now
has
in
in
this
arterial
road
on
the
south
side
of
bloomington.
It
was
actually
identified
back
in
the
60s.
In
a
you
know,
a
planning
document,
transportation
planning
document.
L
For
those
of
you
that
have
been
around
for
bloomington
for
a
long
time
know
that
there
are
different
pieces
that
were
built
in
different
segments
in
different
years.
All
the
way
from
you
know,
east
to
the
tracks
that
we're
going
to
connect
to
to
the
west
the
tracks
there
by
you
know
like
state
farm
park.
L
For
instance,
you
know
the
sale,
barn
road
was
there
for
years,
but
you
know
what
didn't
become
hamilton
road
until
you
know
we
took
that
old
two-lane
country
road
and
turned
it
into
to
hamilton
road
and
obviously
you
know
connects
and
it
ties
into
fox
creek.
So
this
becomes
a
major
corridor
in
the
south
side
of
bloomington.
L
To
get
you
know,
people
back
and
forth
between
you
know,
state
farm
and
fox
creek
and
all
the
different
places
in
between,
because
you
know,
as
as
that
corridor
develops,
we've
got
more
in
the
terms
of
retail
and
other.
You
know
amenities
there
and,
of
course,
there's
areas
along
south
main
street
that
are
lower
income
areas
that
are
going
to
be
helped
by
having
better
better
transportation
corridor
through
here.
You
know
where
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
right
now.
L
Those
that
use
rhodes
lane
and
know
know
what
I'm
talking
about,
that
rural
road
carries
a
lot
of
cars
and
the
intersection
there
at
route
150
morsi
has
is
on
the
state's
five
percent
accident
list
of
five
percent.
Worse
locations
in
the
state-
and
you
know
that's
just
a
really
bad
intersection
location,
just
south
of
the
tracks
right
next
to
a
curve.
L
So
this
project
is
a
safety
project
and
just
a
big
you
know
it's
it's
completing
a
corridor,
that's
been
in
the
works
for
decades,
and
this
is
one
of
the
last
pieces,
along
with
improving
fox
creek
road
that
we're
talking
about
and
just
would
be
a
huge
amenity
for
the
south
side
of
wilmington.
F
Thanks,
that's
helpful
russ.
F
The
it's
probably
impossible
to
know,
but
you
would
mention
potential
energy
savings
with
a
new
and
improved
hvac
unit,
yeah
how
a
ballpark
like
what
might
those
savings
be
if
they
were
realized.
J
On
the
consultant
to
provide
some-
essentially,
our
you
know,
rois
on
that,
there's
a
lot
of
figures
to
filter
into
that.
As
far
as
you
know,
current
costs,
which
are
increasing
rapidly-
I
think
everybody
probably
is
experiencing
that
with
natural
gas
and
electricity.
So
there's
a
lot
of
variables
in
that.
J
Quite
honestly,
I
couldn't
even
take
a
guess
at
what
it
would
be,
but
that
is
something
we've
tasked
the
consultant
to
provide
it's
just
some
estimated
rate
of
return
as
far
as
spending
this
additional
money
and-
and
you
know,
providing
additional
infrastructure
with
the
dehumidification
as
opposed
to
just
replacing
what
we
got
right.
So
I
think,
unfortunately
we
can't
say
that
now,
but
we
can
definitely
bring
that
to
you
when
we
provide
that
report
that
we're
waiting
on
from
the
consultant.
F
Thanks
and
my
final
question
is:
if
there
is
a
plan,
you
know,
as
you
look
to
lincoln
the
lincoln
garage
and
and
provide
some
of
those
structural
upgrades,
is
there
a
plan
to
incorporate
additional
ev
parking
charging
stations.
J
That's
something
we're
considering
the
the
the
challenge
we
have.
There
is
the
potential
infrastructure
you
need
to
do
for
the
the
capacity
of
the
electric.
So
you
know
replacing
the
the
service
to
the
facility
would
have
to
be
done.
If
we're
going
to
increase
it
dramatically,
and
we
can
add
a
few.
The
the
challenge
we
have
is
is
the
more
we
start
adding
the
more
people
want.
J
So
our
goal
quite
honestly
was
to
focus
on.
If
we
do
move
forward
with
a
new
parking
garage,
we
would
build
that
accordingly
and
essentially
provide
as
many
ev
charging
stations
as
we
could
possibly
recommend.
Putting
in
that
facility,
probably
like
an
entire
floor
or
even
two
floors
of
ev
charging,
that's
going
to
be
more
cost
effective
in
the
long
run
than
trying
to
retrofit
an
existing
facility.
That.
J
Forward
with
a
new
garage,
then
yeah
we
could
focus
at
the
possibly
looking
at
that
and
doing
some
improvements
to
to
at
least
add
some.
But
it's
just
you
know
knowing
where
to
spend
the
money,
and,
unfortunately
you
know
with
the
facility
it's
not
in
terrible
condition,
but
if
we
don't
spend
the
money
on
the
structural
improvements
and
keep
moving
forward
with
those
ongoing
repairs,
then
we
wind
up.
Unfortunately,
in
the
situation
we
have
with
market
that
not
spending
money
leads
you
to
that
severe
deterioration
very
quickly.
J
P
Craigville,
thank
you,
mayor
bertim,
going
back
to
the
hamilton
road
project.
I
just
thought
of
this
and
I
think
the
answer
is
definitely
no,
but
there's
no
housing,
that's
going
to
be
displaced
by
this
right
say
that
last
part
again,
there's
no
housings!
That's
going
to
be
displaced
because
of
this
problem,
no
right
yeah
and
then
how
many
miles
are
we
adding
the
road.
L
That's
a
good
question.
I
I
want
to
say
as
far
as
well
see
that
that's
the
thing
too,
is
that
we're
going
to
abandon
part
of
roads
lane,
so
we
are
adding
more
lane
miles
because
we're
going
to
have
a
multi-lane
road
instead
of
a
two-lane
road.
I
I
don't
know
the
lane
miles
off
the
top.
My
head
up
as
far
as
center
line
miles,
we're
not
adding
that
much
because
we're
you
know
moving
basically
getting
rid
of
part
of
rhodes
lane
and
then
adding
in
the
piece.
L
P
Okay,
yeah
on
the
roads
and
how
much
we
can
do
you
know
I
see
in
on
one
on
you
know
one
hand.
There
are
a
number
of
projects
right
that
don't
get
done
every
year
and
that
have
to
be
moved
to
the
following
year,
like
it
was
done
with
hershey,
right
and
and
then
there's
talk
that
we
could
potentially
do
more.
You
know
with
with
the
contractor,
so
I
I
think
it
to
me.
P
It
makes
sense,
maybe
to
like,
have
you
know
two
or
three
roads
that
are
projected
to
get
done
in
the
following
year,
what
you
know
kind
of
the
the
best
ones
to
do
in
the
current
year.
Right
if
we
were
gonna,
add
a
million
dollars.
Here's
what
we
would
recommend
would
be
the
these
roads
would
be
done.
Would
it
you
know,
and
maybe
that's
related
to
it
being
close
to
other
roads
that
are
being
done
for
efficiency's
sake,
that
type
of
thing,
then
I
saw
some
loan
costs
for
locus
colton.
P
I
think
I've
asked
this
before,
but
what
roughly?
How
much
are
we
spending?
I
guess
because
we're
not
getting
low
low
interest
loans
well,.
I
So
the
the
intent
really
is
to
utilize
a
million
dollars
in
cash
on
the
front
end
and
borrow
less
so.
It's
kind
of
you
know
a
matter
of
perspective
on
how
you
put
the
words
together.
You
know
interest
savings
were,
but
that
was
the
kind
of
the
comparison
we
did.
What
what
would
it?
What
would
the
total
cost
of
the
project
been
using
state
revolving?
I
P
Okay
on
the
hvac
units
for
the
arena,
have
they
been
in
been
there
since
the
beginning,
since
it
was
built.
P
J
So
the
the
preliminary
evaluation
which
they
are
nearing
completion
of
was,
I
don't
remember
the
exact
figure
roughly
35
000
after
they
get
the
evaluation
done.
We
would
need
to
then
execute
a
new
contract
with
them
to
finish
the
full
design.
So
that's
not
total
engineering.
At
this
point.
That's
just
the
preliminary
evaluation.
P
Okay
and
then,
if
we
didn't
repair
it
like
how
long,
how
what's
the
useful
life,
if
we
just
kept
going
like
you,
you
don't
recommend
it,
but.
J
So
that's
a
tough
one
to
answer,
because
there's
so
many
variables
and
the
biggest
one
would
be
the
r22
we
can
still
buy
r22
it's
becoming
less
and
less
available
as
time
goes
on,
but
it
comes
with
a
very,
very
hefty
price.
So
a
couple
years
ago,
so
each
of
those
units
has,
I
don't
remember
the
exact
figure.
It's
either
eight
to
nine
compressor
units
in
each
one.
And
so
when
you
go
to
rebuild
a
compressor
unit,
you
pretty
much
have
to
tear
the
entire
thing
down,
basically
rebuild
it
from
scratch.
J
A
lot
of
the
parts
that
are
somewhat
available
not
necessarily
fully
available,
but
essentially
you
can't
change
one
of
those
compressors
to
the
new
refrigerants.
You
have
to
continue
using
the
same
refrigerant
that
they
were
built
with
and
constructed
for.
J
J
That's
up
there
is,
is
really
not
cost-effective,
so
you're,
either
looking
at
a
full
replacement
or
to
continue
to
maintain
them
as
long
as
we
can,
and
quite
honestly,
as
long
as
we
can
continue
to
get
r22
and
the
parts
are
available,
we
can
continue
to
scrape
along
for
probably
several
years
at
some
point,
though,
you
know
the
the
cost
to
continue
to
do.
That
is
going
to
be
more
extreme
than
just
replacing
the
unit,
so
right
yeah.
How
long
that
is.
P
Any
idea
of
the
new
units
and
maybe
you're
waiting
for
the
the
report,
but
how
long
the
new
units
would
last
look
like
this
one.
These
units
lasted
for
about
15
years.
J
Yeah,
so
that
was
one
of
our
concerns.
When
we
worked
the
consultant,
we
actually
went
back
to
the
original
vendor
that
provided
those
units
and
complained
about
it
and
said
just
for
the
the
age.
The
the
deterioration
of
these
units
based
on
their
age
is
just
unacceptable
to
us.
They
acknowledge
that
but
they're
not
gonna,
there's
no
warranty
or
anything
we
could
even
pursue
with
that.
J
So
we
did
ask
the
the
consultant,
as
part
of
your
evaluation
and
your
cost,
estimating
to
make
sure
that
when
you
are
doing
some
preliminary
estimating
and
sizing
these
units
and
and
specking
the
quality
of
the
units
that
we
want
to
upgrade
to
a
higher
quality
of
shell
or
higher
quality
features
that
will
make
them
last
longer.
Quite
honestly,
most
of
those
units
of
you
know
rooftop
units
they're,
custom
designed
you
can't
go,
buy
them
off
the
shelf.
J
P
Great
thanks
for
the
answer
and
one
last
question
for
scott:
when
will
the
budget
books
be
published?
I
want
to
set
aside
some
time.
I
Vote
see
don't
hold
me
to
this
budget
books
will
be
published,
usually
the
proposed
we
try
to
have
those
issued
prior
to
the
proposed
meeting,
which
is
on
march
14th.
So
that's
that
would
be
the
targeted
time
for
the
proposed
budget
books
and
then
the
final
obviously
would
be
around
the
time
of
final
adoption.
Around
april
11th.
I
Mayor,
if
I
may,
I
wanted
to
correct
something
I
said
previously
or
clarify.
Councilman
romani
asked
me
about
the
home
rule
component
of
on
the
streets,
we're
actually
because
of
the
increase
for
the
year.
It's
about
2.8
million,
so
10
of
the
total
home
rule
and
then
local
motor
fuel
tax
is
about
4.1.
I
So
that's
six,
nine!
So
without
I
don't
have
the
the
full
fund
details
in
front
of
me.
We
must
be
using
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
asphalt
and
concrete
reserves,
but
home
rule
has
gone
up
significantly
over
the
over
the
past
year.
Due
to
the
online
which
I've
spoken
about
numerous
times,
the
local
component
of
online
retail
sales,
cannabis
sales,
etc,
and
then
home
local
motor
fuel
taxes
budgeted
4.1
and
it
was
4.7
pre-coveted.
I
A
A
A
Okay,
I
got
a
second
donna
and
jeff
how's
that
sound.
Do
you
want
to
do?
We
do
a
roll
call
on
that?
One
yep.
A
B
C
N
A
D
Thank
you
mayor
pro
tem.
I
really
appreciate
the
presentations
tonight.
I
also
always
learn
a
lot.
I
also
appreciate
the
the
questions
of
my
council.
Colleagues.
Helped
me
think
about
the
budget
too.
I
have
sort
of
a
broad
question
who
would
I
don't
know
who
would
feel
comfortable
responding
to
this,
but
kevin
talked
about
the
rising
cost
of
materials
and
labor.
D
You
know,
and
as
I
look
over
these
capital
projects,
they're
all
multi-year
complex
projects,
and
I
guess
my
question
is
you
know,
given
those
rising
costs,
and
you
know
what
we
hear
about
supply
chain
issues,
it
seems
that
that
might
move
some
of
the
projects
into
into
taking
not
being
able
to
meet
the
timelines
that
you
set
for
them,
and
I
wonder
how
much
you're
concerned
about
that
and
the
increasing
cost
that
might
go
with
it.
If
you
could
be
willing
to
come
on
that
comment
on
that,
please.
L
Yeah,
that's
excellent
point,
and
you
know
the
the
contractors
when
they
did
our
work
have
to
take
that
into
account
the
duration
of
the
project,
and
you
know
that
that
you
know
factors
in
not
only
to
you
know
what
the
current
price
of
those
commodities
or
supplies
are,
but
what
it
could
be
a
year
from
now,
if
that
project
continues
for
more
than
a
year
and
that
type
of
thing,
so
it
definitely
has
an
impact
because
the
contractor
has
to
has
to
hedge
their
bets
about
what
that's
going
to
be
when
they
actually
need
the
materials
delivered
to
the
job
site,
to
construct
the
improvements,
so
that
that
is
is
more
of
a
risk
factor
for
the
contractors
right
now,
we've
seen
it.
L
You
know
just
in
terms
of
city
staff
and
procurement,
with
things
like,
for
instance,
chlorine.
For
the
you
know,
our
water
treatment
plant
in
lake
bloomington,
just
skyrocketed
and
and
the
the
you
know,
supplier
said
you
know
they
locked
into
this
price.
For
you
know
a
year,
and
then
you
know
six
months
into
it
said
well,
we
can't
deliver
it
at
that
anymore,
because
our
supplier,
that
we
get
it
from
you
know
it's
doubled
and
stuff.
L
H
We
know
that
supply
chain
impacts,
material
costs
are
driving
prices.
Much
higher.
You
know
all
eyes
are
actually
on
a
bid
opening
for
o'neill
pool
project
this
thursday
and
and
what
our
fear
is
is
if
we
don't
execute
those
you
know
in
a
timely
fashion.
H
You
know
like
these
multi-year
projects
that
we're
talking
about
now
we're
never
going
to
see
the
prices
come
back
to
what
they
were
pre-coveted
and
then,
if
we
pause
to
you
know,
take
that
moment
to
wait
and
see
we
compound
other
projects
and
other
large
expenditures.
H
A
Thank
you,
city
manager,
before
we
go
to
repeats
just
a
couple
thoughts
I
wanted
to
add
in
for
myself.
A
The
first
one
is
that
all
of
these
are
budget
line,
item
placeholders
and-
and
we
still
are
going
to
have
in
most
cases
the
opportunity
to
vet
individual
projects
and
individual
items,
they're
all
going
to
come
back
in
front
of
council
at
some
point
over
the
course
of
the
year.
Once
we
have
firmed
up
numbers
once
we
have
design
work
done
once
we've
gotten
our
reports,
so
everything's
coming
back.
So
just
keep
that
in
mind
as
we're
we're
answering
questions
tonight,
you
know
and
I
appreciated
kevin.
A
You
brought
up
the
oversizing
project
at
kickaproo
right,
I
mean
it's
something.
I've
expressed
to
tim
before
that.
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
a
council
discussion
in
terms
of
how
we
want
the
city
of
bloomington
to
grow.
Overall.
You
know,
I'm
not
convinced
personally,
that
I
want
more
subdivisions
on
the
east
side
of
tawanda
barnes
road.
At
this
point,
I
think
that
there
there's
other
people
who
might
have
differing
opinions,
and
but
I
think
that
there's
a
bigger
conversation
that
we
need
to
have
before
that
oversized
contract
gets
actually
awarded
right.
A
So
you
know,
and
then
my
final
one
is
I'll
just
say:
russ
every
year
we
do
this
right
near
my
birthday
and
every
year
I'm
going
to
remind
you
that
that
market
street
garage
is
the
same
age
that
I
am
and
my
hair
is
not
getting
any
redder.
So,
okay
with
that
said
I'll,
I
saw
donna's
hand
up
so
council
member
bolin
you've
got
the
stage
again
be
quick.
Please
yeah.
N
I'll
be
really
quick,
I'm
going
to
throw
this
out
there
for
the
record.
Kevin
made
a
point
about,
of
course,
the
cost
going
up
and
sort
of
difficulty
keeping
up
with
the
need
for
the
work
on
the
road
resurfacing.
N
I
would
suggest
that,
if
we're
going
to
look
at
a
two-year
program
that
the
funding
matched
the
program
rather
than
the
other
way
around,
if
that,
if
that
makes
sense,
and
the
other
thing
regarding
hamilton
road,
like
kevin
said
this
has
been
in
the
works
forever
and
ever
just
today.
I
got
a
notification
from
the
planning
commission
that
there
is
a
developer
wanting
to
develop
the
sale,
barn
property,
which
is
right
there
on
the
corner.
So
there
is
development
necessary
in
that
area.
N
A
Thank
you.
Last
but
not
least,
councilman
rodney.
O
Sorry,
I
just
want
to
reinforce
donna's
comment
there
and
ask
a
question
of
kevin
back
in
august,
you
shared
a
statistic
that
42
of
our
streets
are
rated
fair
or
below
in
the
software
that
helps
prioritize
street
repairs,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
staff
has
a
point
of
view
of
what
that
target
should
be,
and
what
would
it
take
for
us
to
make
the
investments
needed
to
match
up
to
what
we
believe
this
community
should
have
in
terms
of
its
overall
street
ratings.
L
Yeah
that
that
target
goal
as
far
as
what
that
rating
should
be
for
all
our
streets
that
that
you
know
I
I
don't
know
that
anybody's
really
really
set
that.
As
far
as
you
know,
in
the
past
we
more
or
less
have
tried
to
maintain
or
improve
a
little
bit.
But
what
is
that
target
we
want
to
hit?
I
think
that's
probably
something
that
he
was
elected
need
to
have
some.
You
know
input
on
that
and
what
would
that
cost?
L
H
If
you
don't
mind
older
woman,
monteney
and-
and
it
was
actually
alderman
becker-
that
sort
of
kicked
off
the
conversations
about
rhodes
tonight,
I
know
that
we
have
had
a
fair
amount
of
comments
in
previous
council
meetings,
one-offs
from
almost
all
the
council
members.
H
If
we've
got
our
city
engineer,
that's
having
that
conversation
with
the
prime
that
we
typically
use
we'll
report
back
next
week
under
the
budget
presentation
also
shifting
gears
a
little
bit
just
for
a
moment
outside
fy
23
of
the
arp
funds.
H
You
know
I've
described
it
as
buckets
fully
expect
that
council
is
going
to
approve
an
infrastructure
bucket
for
a
sizable
amount
of
those
dollars
that
we
have
and
of
that
infrastructure,
fully
expect
that
fair
amount
is
going
to
be
asphalt
and
concrete
to
see
what
we
can
actually
do
with
more,
but
to
the
question
about
an
ongoing
revenue
stream
with
the
likely
losses
on
the
local
motor
fuel
tax.
How
do
we
supplement
those?
H
E
A
Thank
you,
city
manager.
With
that
we're
going
to
move
on
to
agenda
item
5b,
we've
got
three
different
council
member
initiatives
and
we're
going
to
do
them
in
the
order
that
they
were
submitted.
So
the
first
one
is
from
council
member
becker
to
ways
to
reduce
well
nick.
Why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
you
preface
it
you've
got
three
minutes
and
then
we've
got
three
minutes
of
comments
from
council
members.
Afterwards,.
C
So
reading
all
the
stuff
that
came
through
about
the
procedure,
I'm
going
to
take
my
three
minutes
then
do
I
make
a
motion
that
I
recommend
us
going
for
option,
one
one
or
two
or
does
somebody
else
have
to
make
that
motion?
What's
the
what's
the
protocol.
C
Okay,
thank
you,
so,
first
real
quick.
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
the
public
comment
from
serena
and
lead
that
into
acknowledging
the
good
work
that
tim
and
deb
skillroot
have
done
kind
of
on
one
of
the
topics
that
I
mentioned
about
consolidation
of
some
things.
Yes,
the
staff
has
done
a
great
job,
consolidating
some
departmental
things.
C
There's
been
great
cooperation
between
the
the
city
and
the
township,
and
that's
the
spirit
of
which
I
bring
this
up
is
not
not
a
negative,
but
just
looking
at
it
as
a
way
to
really
find
ways
to
become
more
efficient.
If
you
look
at
the
big
picture,
slight
digression,
illinois
has
so
much
bloat
in
its
government.
C
I
think
we've
got
six
thousand
government
entities,
that's
more
than
indiana
iowa
and
kentucky
together
by
at
least
a
thousand
there's
a
lot
of
bloat
in
government
through
all
the
rules
and
regulations
and
statutes
that
have
been
put
in
place
over
the
years,
and
so
not
picking
on
anybody
locally
here.
For
that
it's
just
there
is
an
opportunity
for
efficiency,
and
what
I
wanted
to
do
with
this
initiative
was
not
create
a
commission,
but
just
to
get
a
few
items
on
the
docket
for
us
to
focus
and
identify
to
move
forward.
C
I
want
us
to
reduce
those
issues,
so
I
mentioned
the
township
because
I
do
think,
like
I
said,
tim
and
deb
have
worked
very
hard
to
try
and
look
at
some
of
the
administrative
functions
and
how
we
can
consolidate
some
of
those
to
save.
I
mentioned
the
bec
and
mclean
county
as
an
example
too,
because
we've
seen
articles
on
both
spending
more
money
to
become
more
efficient
on
voting
in
the
next
elections.
C
That's
redundancy.
It's
extra
money
being
spent.
I
know
some
will
not
think
that
we
can
achieve
that
one.
But
it's
just
an
example:
the
911
system
right,
there's,
there's
redundancy
there
because
we're
doing
it
differently
across
different
entities.
So
my
proposal
is
that
the
city
come
back
to
us
and
say:
hey.
Let's
forget,
what's
been
done
in
the
past,
no
excuses
that
we
tried
it
and
it
failed.
C
So
if
I'm
gonna
make
the
motion,
I
would
motion
that
for
option
two,
that
the
city
go
back
and
research,
the
staff
go
back
and
research
and
bring
something
back
to
us
based
on
their
research
and
if
it's
different
than
my
suggestion
is
great
as
long
as
it's
something
that's
worthwhile.
So
that
would
be
my
motion.
A
Okay,
so
under
kind
of
some
of
the
new
guidance,
we've
got
three
minutes
where
we're
gonna
go
around
and
each
one
of
the
council
members
got
his
like
20
30
seconds
to
say
yes,
give
a
couple.
Thoughts
say:
no
give
a
couple
thoughts.
However,
you
want
to
handle
that.
Does
that
sound
right.
I
B
How
they'd
like
to
vote
and
then
talk
a
few
minutes
later,
a
few
seconds
like
you
said
so,
okay,
we
will
start
with
you
mayor
pro
tim.
A
So
yeah
I
will
say
yes
to
the
motion
I
shot
nick.
I
shot
you
back
a
bunch
of
thoughts
right
after
you
submitted
it
on
some
of
the
different
parts
of
it,
but
the
overall
concept
of
combining
some
possible
government
units
to
reduce
waste.
Yes,.
N
Yes,
I
support
this
and
I
appreciate
the
comment
of
bringing
the
bets
separately,
because
that
was
my
only
concern.
Instead
of
lumping
them,
we
bring
each
item
separately.
O
Yes,
I
think
councilmember
becker's
initiative
is
an
important
first
step
to
a
dialogue
that
needs
to
go
a
lot
deeper
in
that
regard.
About
seven
or
eight
years
ago
we
were
spending
161
million
annually
to
run
the
city
and
now
we're
at
about
269,
with
this
million
with
this
proposed
budget.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
and
thank
you.
F
Yes,
I
support
option
two
as
presented
and
I've
I've
also
written
back
to
counselor
becker.
So
he
knows
some
of
my
initial
thoughts,
but
I
I'm
I'm
always
interested
in
how
we
might
collaborate
to
work
better
together.
G
Thank
you
nick.
I'm
glad
that
we
separated
this
I'll
reiterate
what
donna
said
into
different
little
packages,
because
if
this
was
in
one
package
I
would
have
had
to
have
said
no,
since
we're
asking
for
different
pieces
coming
back,
I'm
gonna
go
yes
leslie.
I
would
like
to
see
this
come
back
in
bites.
B
P
Yeah
I'll
vote,
yes,
just
you
know
kind
of
cautionary,
I
don't
want
reduction,
I
mean
a
reduction
to
equal
reduced
services.
I
guess
so.
I
think
we
should
look
at
that.
P
I,
like
the
fact
that
it's
going
to
be
our
staff,
that's
going
to
come
back
with
the
top.
You
know
ideas
on
how
we
can
reduce
cost
and
then
you
know
part
of
the
discussion
should
be
other
reasons,
maybe
that
we're
not
combining
things-
and
you
know-
and
I
think
kind
of
going
to
the
comment
of
how
much
our
budget
has
increased
over
time.
I
think
scott
and
tim
have
kind
of
explained.
You
know
that
that
process,
so
I
don't
necessarily
see
those
two
tied.
D
Yes,
I
I
I
would
vote
yes
and
nick.
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
this
forward.
I
think
obviously,
one
of
the
primary
responsibilities
we
have
as
council
members
is
to
be
good
stewards
of
taxpayer
dollars
and
to
take
a
a
good,
hard
look
at
how
we're
spending
money
and
if
there
are
ways
that
we
could
cut
spending
or
our
combined
efforts,
you
know
for
efficiency,
I'm
certainly
all
for
that.
So
thank
you.
A
F
Thank
you.
This
this
initiative
was
born
out
of
a
conversation
with
a
lot
of
other
community
members
around
the
flooding
that
happened
last
june
and
truly
the
conversation
from
the
beginning
was.
F
Are
there
other
ways
to
address
the
massive
overflow
we
had
into
our
combined
sewer
systems
and
hence
the
flooding
of
basements
with
sewage
and
perhaps
a
broader
opportunity
here
to
think
about
green
infrastructure
as
a
mechanism
for
not
only
mitigating
some
of
that
overflow,
but
also
creating
a
generally
a
more
environmentally
sound
community,
and
my
initiative
is
to
establish
a
green
infrastructure
commission
that
would
be
advisory
and
their
role
would
be
to
survey
all
of
the
work
that
is
currently
being
done.
F
Some
of
it
is
definitely
in
the
landscape
of
green
infrastructure,
no
pun
intended
the
discussion
around
doing
the
hydraulic
modeling
and
the
the
e
street
basin
is
is
all
part
and
parcel
of
that.
But
this
is
an
opportunity
to
say:
okay,
are
there
other
opera
ways
that
we
might
be
able
to
go
forward?
F
How
might
we
enhance
these
current
projects?
How
might
we
bring
in
other
stakeholders
in
the
community?
How
might
we
educate
folks
to
think
about
what
even
I
might
be
able
to
do
in
my
own
home
to
mitigate
some
of
these
issues
and
to
fulfill
the
city's
stormwater
and
sanitary
master
plan,
which
is
to
educate
and
involve
the
public?
F
My
initiative
is
to
establish
this
infrastructure
to
study
and
recommend
policies
or
practices
around
green
infrastructure
in
bloomington,
and
I
think
voting
for
the
second
option
here
would
make
sense,
because
I
I
do
want
to
hear
back
from
staff
about
the
feasibility
the
reality
of
whether
or
not
this
this
is
appropriate.
Given
the
other
works
that
are
in
play
and
really
see
this
just
as
a
chance
to
work
in
tandem
to
clarify
an
approach
going
forward.
A
Thank
you
so
we've
made
it
you've
made
a
motion
at
this
point.
Do
we
have
anybody
who
wants
to
second
that
no
second,
okay,
we
have
a
second
from
councilmember
craybill
and
we're
just
going
to
go
around
the
diocese
again,
just
like
we
did
last
time.
A
So
I
will
vote
yes
to
this.
You
know,
but
when
it
comes
back,
I
wonder
if
this
is
better
served
as
like
a
a
temporary
task
force
than
a
permanent
commission.
I
mean
I'd
just
be
interested
to
see
some
thoughts
on
that,
but
I
think
that
I
think
that
it's
worthwhile
of
letting
some
community
members
that
we
know
have
expertise,
bring
some
feedback
to
us
and
then
let
the
staff
think
about
it
and
decide
what
they
want
to
do.
Next.
N
Yes,
I
I'd
like
to
have
some
more
conversation
and
learn
more
of
what
julie
is
talking
about,
but
I
do
know
that
in
the
newer
subdivisions
on
the
periphery
of
town,
the
green
infrastructure
is
already
within
the
chapter.
24
ordinances
so
and
kevin
can
confirm,
confirm
that
and
in
my
mind
too,
some
of
this
might
be
related
to
land
use
which
might
be
appropriate
for
the
planning
commission.
But
I
would
like
to
include
that
in
part
of
the
conversation
so.
O
Ideas
and
the
specific
things
that
they've
already
brought
forward,
it
seems
to
me
like
this,
is
a
timing
issue.
We've
already
approved
the
work
for
hydraulic,
hydraulic
monitoring,
which
seems
to
be
the
appropriate
step
one
for
this.
So
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
what
is
already
set
in
motion
playing
out
before
we
initiate
new
work
for
city
staff
in
this
area.
So
for
me
it
would
be
a
no
for
now.
F
I
I
appreciate
that
feedback.
I
think
time
wise.
It's
there's
an
opportunity
here
that,
as
we
learn
from
the
hydraulic
hydraulic
modeling,
we
could
have
and
I'm
comfortable
with
a
task
force.
We
could
have
a
task
force,
make
suggestions
and
it
there
are.
There
are
other
ways
you
can
implement
green
infrastructure.
I
am
no
expert,
but
I
have
had
many
conversations
with
with
those
who
who
know
a
lot
about
this
approach,
that
that
would
be
separate
from
the
results
of
the
hydraulic
modeling.
C
So
real
quick,
I
I
struggle
with
this
one
julie.
Is
I
like
some
of
the
ideas?
I
do
believe
that
a
lot
of
the
the
discussion
is
is
going
to
be
somewhat
duplicated.
Like
donna,
I
think,
said
the
planning
commission,
with
what
the
staff's
doing
I'm
a
little
bit
worried
that
adding
another
level
kind
of
back
to
the
efficiency
comment
will
actually
slow
us
down
in
a
way.
So
I
I
guess,
I'm
open
to
discuss
it,
but
if
I
was
purely
voting
to
start
a
commission
or
another
committee,
I
would
say
no.
G
Yes,
I
was
getting
there
apologize.
Thank
you.
I
I'm
going
to
I'm
really
conflicted
about
this,
because
I
really
do
not
have
any
intention
of
wanting
to
start
any
more
commissions
or
committees
the
option
of
maybe
a
task
force
was
mentioned.
G
That
was
entertaining
so
my
knee-jerk
reaction
would
have
been
just
so
it
to
have
said.
No,
because
I
don't
want
a
commission
and
and
julie,
I
would
say
I
I
would
like
to
see
us
up
the
bar
here
and
just
make
an
expectation
of
staff
to
establish
green
space
with
every
project,
just
just
upping
that
bar
and
making
it
to
where
we
have
an
expectation
for
green
space.
Every
time,
there's
a
project
or
a
planning
commission
submit.
G
We
expect
that
as
a
higher
standard
for
our
city
for
our
residents,
because
I
really
want
this
conversation
to
continue.
G
I
think
I'm
going
to
have
to
say
yes,
but
I
really
am
also
saying
yes,
julie,
let's
raise
the
bar
and
let's
look
at
some
different
things
than
just
tossing
this
off
onto
a
committee,
because
I
don't
want
another
commission
or
committee,
but
I
want
to
set
a
higher
standard
for
everybody
in
our
city.
So
let's
bring
the
something
like
that
back
to
the
table.
If
you
would
please
thank
you.
P
I
I'll
say:
yes,
I
think
actually
having
additional
committee
is
a
good
thing.
I
don't
think
any
other
committee
addresses
this
issue.
I
think
it
can
be
a
benefit
to
staff
to
have
outside
expertise.
I
think
it
helps
getting
more
people
involved
in
local
government.
It
will
help
educate
and
involve
the
public,
so
yeah,
I'm
a
hundred
percent
in
favor
of
of
a
committee,
whether
whatever
form
it
is.
D
Thank
you
julie.
I
really
support
this
idea
and
will
vote
yes.
I
do
have
some
of
the
same
concerns
or
or
questions
that
dee
raised.
You
know,
I
guess
I'd
like
to
know
what
what
you
see
is
a
little
bit
more
about
what's
different
and
unique
about
a
proposed
commission
or
task
force
that
can't
be
accomplished
in
some
of
the
existing
structures
that
we
already
have
in
place.
You
know
and
candidly
you
and
I
know
how
long
it
takes
to
get
commissions
together.
D
Sometimes
if
we
were
able
to
pull
this
together
even
by
the
end
of
april
or
even
may
you
know,
setting
agendas
and
and
guidelines
and
getting
people
on
board
takes
a
lot
of
time,
and
I
just
wonder
if
it
might
be
a
more
there
might
be
a
more
efficient
way
to
do
this
and
I'd
love
to
hear
more
when
when
this
comes
back
for
discussion,
so
yes.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
everybody
on
to
the
third
initiative
and
that
was
submitted
by
councilmember
ward.
So
three
minutes
is
yours.
M
Great
thank
you.
I
spent
a
little
bit
of
time
during
council
member
comments
last
week,
I'm
already
sort
of
prefacing
this,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
a
whole
lot
of
detail
about
the
the
initiative
itself.
You
can
read
that
on
the
agenda
item.
It
basically
calls
for
a
special
commission
to
address
the
issue
of
gun
violence.
M
I
want
to
spend
the
bulk
of
the
next
couple
minutes,
though,
addressing
some
of
the
questions
that
I've
already
received
about
this
first
off.
One
of
the
questions
is:
do
we
really
have
a
problem
with
gun
violence
in
in
our
city,
and
I
would
say
that
two
deaths
already
this
year
and
tonight's
lockdown
granted,
that
was
in
normal?
It
wasn't
in
bloomington,
but
it's
still
one
community
lockdown
on
college
avenue
and
veterans
parkway
should
send
the
signal
that
we
do
have
a
problem
with
gun
violence
in
this
community.
M
Another
question:
why
not
incorporate
it
into
other
commissions
or
existing
committees
such
as
the
pscrb
or
why
don't?
We
establish
a
much
broader
committee
or
commission
to
deal
with
just
crime
in
general,
and
I
would
say
that
that
runs
the
risk
of
watering
it
down.
We
have
a
number
of
other
commissions
that
are
dedicated
to
special
concerns,
historic
preservation,
technology,
so
on
and
so
on.
M
M
I
think
that
that
it,
the
people
of
bloomington,
are
smarter
than
this,
and
they
will
recognize
that
we
just
need
to
call
it
what
it
is
and
get
on
with
it
and
do
something.
So
I
am
moving
that
we
have
the
staff,
evaluate
and
prepare
an
analysis
on
the
proposed
initiative
and
bring
it
back
to
the
council
for
further
discussion.
I
understand
that
there
is
there
this
the
structure
that
needs
to
be
created
and
there's
some
effort
that
needs
to
be
put
into
that,
and
so
for
that
reason,
I'm
moving
option.
Two.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
so
we'll
just
repeat
for
option
number,
two
right:
we
does
anybody
want
to.
Second,
this
first.
A
So
I
am
a
yes
on
this.
However,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
duplicating
the
efforts
of
other
groups
in
town
if
we
can
elevate
their
conversations
and
increase
their
bandwidth
to
some
more
people
here
and
see
what
they're
doing
that's
a
good
thing.
N
Well,
I
have
several
concerns
in
the
sense
that
the
initiative
as
written
is
that
the
commission
would
put
together
a
comprehensive
plan
to
address
gun
violence.
I
have
confidence.
The
police
department
has
a
comprehensive
plan
to
address
gun
violence
within
the
confines
of
the
law,
and
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
the
justice
commission,
the
mclean
county
justice,
commission
and
the
mclean
county
mental
health
coordinating
council
are
have
data
and
are
working
on
this
type
of
thing
already.
N
O
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
crime
trends
in
our
community
and
the
role
that
guns
play
in
crimes
in
our
community
gun
policies,
for
the
most
part
you
know,
are
state
driven
and
if
there's
an
appetite
to
move
forward
on
this,
I
feel
like
we
have
an
existing
group
that
we
could
task
with
the
very
specific
elements
of
this
request
for
analysis
and
bring
in
ad
hoc
experts
from
the
community
to
help
provide
new
voices
in
that
process.
O
I
do
not
support
the
new
commission
proposal.
I
do.
B
F
Nick
you've
switched
places
with
me
just
so
you
know
in
my
head.
Yes,
I
I
thank
council
member
ward
for
bringing
this
forward.
What
I
what
I
like
about
it
is
that
it
reminds
me
of
the
work
that
the
housing
coalition
did
at
the
in
the
wake
of
covid.
I
think
that
there
there
are
definitely
there's.
F
Definitely
a
need
to
have
police
officers
be
part
of
the
conversation,
but
I
do
I
do
see
that
in
our
community
we
have
a
lot
of
these
efforts
and
initiatives
existing
in
silos,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
to
bring
the
different
departments
who
are
working
on
this
different
entities.
F
Social
work,
mental
health,
poverty,
there's
so
many
so
many
multiple,
multiple
factors
that
go
into
this
and
having
having
a
group
coalesce
to
discuss
and
and
perhaps
maybe
not
come
up
with
a
comprehensive
plan,
but
rather
find
a
way
to
bring
these
silos
together
to
work
towards
a
more
meaningful
response
to
gun
violence
in
the
community.
So,
yes,
number.
C
So
you
know
I
want
to
thank
molly
for
putting
this
forward.
I
I
can't,
I
can't
think
of
anything
more
that,
as
I
look
at
you
know
a
place
to
raise
my
kids
that
bothers
me
more
than
violence
in
the
community
right,
I
absolutely
hate
it.
I
went
and
did
some
research
on
this
and
I
talked
to
law
enforcement
folks
from
around
the
country
that
I'm
friends
with
and
know
a
lot
about
this
and
to
a
person
they
felt
like.
Sometimes
these
commissions
slowed
down
the
effort
from
listening
to
chief
simmington.
C
I
believe
that
he's
the
guy
to
bring
those
groups
together
and
take
those
inputs,
I
think
he's
reaching
out
to
a
lot
of
the
groups
that
are
already
involved
and
trying
to
get
that
input.
I
think
he's
very
open
to
it
and
I
think
his
goal
is
to
to
make
these
changes.
So
I'm
not
in
favor
of
a
commission,
but
I
am
very
much
in
favor
of
finding
ways
to
continue
the
efforts
of
the
police
department
and
the
da's
office
and
pulling
the
input
from
all
the
organizations
and
people
you're
talking
about
molly.
B
Can
you
clarify,
if
you're
supportive
of
the
initiative
as
a.
G
Thank
you
and-
and
I
I
appreciate
molly-
that
you've
brought
this
forward,
but
I'm
trying
to
look
right
at
you
and
say
I
don't
really
want
answers
from
a
commission
eight
months
from
now.
I
want
answers
yesterday
and
I
feel
like
the
only
way
we're
gonna
get.
Those
answers
is
that
we
use
the
departments
and
the
commissions
we
already
have
the
pscrb,
the
relationship
that
they
have
with
the
stakeholders,
the
relationship
they
have
with
the
police
department
with
city
officials.
G
I
I'm
not
singing
praises,
but
they've
done
an
outstanding
job
in
the
past
and
we
really
need
someone
moving
on
this
quickly
and
because
I
agree
with
you,
but
I
don't
want
to
create
a
commission
to
do
it.
I
want
I
would
support
if
you
said,
I
want
a
motion
to
get
something
done
now.
I
would
support
now,
but
I'm
not
going
to
support
nine
months
so
for
now
my
answer
is
no
but
a
different
motion.
My
answer
could
be
yes,.
M
Yeah
I'll
be
voting
yes,
and
I
will
just
say
that
I've
been
raising
this
issues
issue
with
a
number
of
folks
that
have
already
been
mentioned
for
literally
since
before
I
was
sworn
in
as
a
council
member.
So
I
would
like
those
answers
to
happened
yesterday
as
well.
The
reason
I'm
putting
forward
this
initiative
is
because
I'm
still
waiting.
P
D
Thank
you,
molly
thanks
for
bringing
this
forward,
I
want
to
support
this
idea
as
well.
I
do
have
some
similar
concerns
that
have
been
expressed
already
the
timeline
of
a
commission
that
I
mentioned
previously
also.
D
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about
why
why
not
pscrb
is,
as
a
committee
I
mean
if
we
do
have
again
existing
structures
in
place
and
just
even
already
it
sounds
like
to
me
that
the
the
composition
of
this
commission
could
be
really
political,
and
so
I
think
you
know
any
any
effort
to
move
forward,
whether
it's
a
task
force
or
a
commission
or
whatever
ends
up
being
possible.
D
I
think
we
need
to
be
really
careful
about
who
gets
on
this
committee
and
why-
and
you
know,
finally,
I
I
guess
I'd
like
to
say
just
overall-
it
seems
to
me
like
there
are
at
least
from
my
account
five
council
initiatives
out
there
right
now
that
we're
all
considering
all
equally
perhaps
important.
Equally,
you
know
valuable
and
I
wonder
if
we,
as
a
governing
body
might
need
to
think
about
some
priorities
in
terms
of
staff
time
and
how
the
work
gets
done
to
move
these
projects
forward.
D
So,
yes,
thank
you.
B
That's
exactly
right:
you
had
councilmember
money,
councilmember,
becker
and
councilmember
urban
voting.
No
thanks.
A
Okay,
and
so
this
one
will
come
back
at
some
point
with
some
staff
analysis
on
it:
city
manager,
gleason,
you,
okay,
with
that
good,
okay,
okay,
thank
you.
Everybody
appreciate
cooperation
with
kind
of
a
new
format
of
how
we
handle
those.
So
I
think
that
worked
out
pretty
well.
Next.
Item
on
the
agenda
is
city
managers,
discussion,
so
city
manager,
gleason
turn
this
one
over
to
you.
H
H
H
Okay
and
then,
additionally,
I
just
wanted
to
again
thank
the
facilities,
crews,
parks
and
rec
crews,
public
works,
crews,
police
and
fire
for
all
their
efforts,
and
this
second
storm
event,
and
I
think,
we're
watching
thursday
for
a
possible
third,
but
it
is
february
in
central
illinois.
H
That
is
an
investment
in
our
community
in
the
entire
community
college
region,
but
some
of
the
demographics
are
larger
in
our
community
and
they
definitely
complement
the
scholarship
opportunities
that
this
council
is
already
investing
in
and
some
of
the
residents
of
our
community.
So
it's
exciting
we're
going
to
hear
more
about
that
next
week,
also
going
to
have
an
agenda
item
for
honorary
streets,
street
names,
designations
for
former
mayor
judy
markowitz,
mr
merlin
kennedy
and
mr
henry
gay,
and
then
also
an
agenda
item
that
will
be
on
the
regular
agenda.
H
That's
received
a
little
bit
of
coverage
is
the
flock
safety
agreement.
We've
had
two
attempts
to
get
this
in
front
of
the
pscrb.
H
So
this
is
something
that
will
come
before
them
in
a
special
meeting
this
week
and
it
will
be
an
agenda
item
next
week
on
february
28th
and
then
also
we
have
chief
simmington
and
possibly
other
members
of
his
executive
staff
that
will
provide
the
bloomington
police
department.
Strategic
plan
would
have
been
tonight,
but
chief
simmington
is
actually
out
of
town
and
we
bumped
it.
One.
E
A
Thank
you.
We
do
not
have
an
executive
session
this
week,
so
nothing
there.
So
how
about
a
motion
to
adjourn.
A
Okay,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.