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July 15, 2019 - Committee of the Whole City Council Meeting
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A
B
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A
A
They
call
their
recipe,
are
identifying
resilience.
Ii
practicing
empathy
see
strengthening
communication,
I
achieving
impact
p,
encouraging
playfulness.
Oh
sorry,
e
giving
effort
sounds
like
kinds
of
things
that
all
of
us
could
could
learn
from,
whereas
through
leadership,
skills,
public
speaking
community
service
team
building
and
bonding
that
ten
teens
learn,
they
are
more
alike
than
are
different
and
returned
to
Israel,
ready
to
continue
building
peace
and
now,
therefore,
I
carry
render
mayor
of
the
city
of
Bloomington.
Illinois.
A
Do
hereby
recognize
our
friends
forever
international
visitors
and
ask
all
residents
of
the
city
of
Bloomington
to
welcome
them
in
a
witness
here
of
I
set
my
hand
and
the
seal
of
blowing
Sun
to
this,
and
we
have
a
separate
Proclamation
for
you
and
all
of
your
colleagues.
Thank
you
so
much
appreciate
it.
A
J
My
name
is
Susan
LaVon
I'm,
a
teacher
at
lubbock
school
together
with
my
colleague
Kosta
from
the
city
of
Nazareth
school.
We
visited
and
I
wanted
to.
Thank
you
very
very
much
for
your
hospitality,
I'm
amazed
by
the
warmth
that
we've
felt
for
received
from
everybody
here
and
we're
learning
so
much
about
life
in
what
I
think
is
a
typical
American
city,
more
typical
than
what
we
hear
in
the
news,
and
it's
really
fascinating.
J
A
At
this
point,
we
move
to
public
comment
and
just
to
clarify,
if
you
have
some
specific
issues
or
specific
concerns,
you're
welcome
to
come
to
the
mayor's
open
house,
which
is
between
4:30
and
5:30,
on
Friday,
before
regular
City
Council
meeting.
So
there
will
be
one
this
Friday
just
around
the
fishbowl.
You
can
ask
anything.
K
Good
evening
my
name
is
Katie
and
I'm,
a
taxpayer
and
consumer
here
in
Bloomington
I'm
here
tonight,
because
I'm
interested
to
hear
about
the
presentation
and
discussion
for
item
6b,
video
gaming
after
reading
the
background
summary
from
mr.
Jergens,
Tamron
and
ratburn's
anyone's
name,
I
believe
some
information
given
to
you
may
this
may
be
misleading
for
tonight's
discussion.
On
the
second
page
of
agenda
item
6b
you're
presented
with
multiple
figures
and
only
one
definition
for
net
terminal
income.
K
That
is
not
even
used
as
a
figure
in
this
summary
when
discussing
total
wagering
activity
and
increases
from
2014
to
2018.
You
should
ask
these
individuals
to
explain
what
terminal
total
wagering
activity
means
and
how
it
is
used
in
a
report
before
you
today,
along
with
a
working
explanation
of
each
section
of
Dillon
league
gaming
boards
reports,
you
should
have
also
received
a
2014
and
2018
report
with
the
May
2019
report
for
comparison
in
May
of
2019.
We
actually
have
less
businesses
with
video
gaming
than
these
highlighted
years
in
their
report.
K
I
know
some,
but
some
I
host
some
figures
may
have
increased
over
the
years,
but
that
is
just
part
of
a
normal
business
cycle.
All
business
owners
want
growth,
their
businesses,
just
like
an
employee
once
I
raise
each
year.
We
should
think
of
our
city
as
growing
and
thriving
in
a
great
environment
to
attract
more
business
owners
and
more
residents
to
Bloomington.
K
Mr.
Gleason
has
expressed
that
he
would
like
to
focus
on
economic
development
during
his
time
with
our
city
and
has
employed
Melissa
and
her
current
role.
To
help
with
this,
however,
the
community
group
interested
person
contacted
and
community
development
impact
still
remain
as
NA
on
these
sections
of
your
report
today.
I
believe
research
is
needed
to
educate
your
audience,
so
they
may
create
an
unbiased
opinion
and
decision
from
facts
and
I
hope
that
that
is
your
view
too.
K
A
You
very
much
mm-hmm.
We
next
move
to
a
consideration
and
action
to
approve
the
committee
of
the
whole
minutes
from
the
June
17
2019
meeting
as
requested
by
the
city
clerk
Department.
Is
there
a
motion
or
Corrections
so
moved
moved
by
a
council
member
cradle?
Is
there
a
second
second
couple
seconds,
but
I'm
gonna
go
with
the
non
seconder
in
chief
council
member
painter
any
further
discussion
on
these
minutes.
A
H
A
H
A
Won't
forget
it
this
time.
Okay,
we
move
right
along
then
to
presentation,
discussion
and
direction,
and
future
agenda
topics
and
the
first
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
our
city
manager,
which
was
an
update
in
session
regarding
boards
and
commissions,
as
requested
by
the
administration
department.
Mr.
Gleeson,
and
then
turn
that
over
to
you
for
about
ten
minutes,
and
we
have
a
council
discussion
for
about
15
minutes.
Roughly
Thank.
L
What's
changed
in
the
meantime,
is
the
Transportation
Commission
that
in
fact
would
have
had
a
couple
of
items
that
came
before
them
and
council
took
action
to
reduce
the
size
from
eight
to
seven
we
had
four
existing
board
members
and,
in
the
meantime,
we've
lost
two
of
those
remaining
four
for
work-related
reasons.
So
we
do
not
have
a
quorum
with
the
Transportation
Commission
and
there's
been
a
couple
of
items
that
would
have
come
before
and
are
currently
placed
on
hold
that
would
come
before
the
Commission.
L
L
That's
saying
that
I'm
interested
in
anything
you
have
available
or
I'm
interested
in
these
specific
boards
and
commissions.
I
share
that
with
Council
as
well
also
I
think
housed
in
that
city
manager.
Update
on
that
portion
is
request
to
all
of
you.
You
know
that
you
might
have
constituents
or
people
that
you
have
in
mind.
That
might
be
someone
that
staff
should
reach
out
to
that
you're
going
to
reach
out
to
and
they
become
a
part
of
the
potential
process.
C
L
M
Just
for
clarity,
so
it
seems
to
me
that
there's
two
different
paths
that
people
are
coming
in
for
boards
and
commissions
there's
one
for
people
who
wants
a
step
forward
and
volunteer
themselves.
They
fill
out
the
form
on
the
website,
they
turn
into
Circuit
Clerk
and
then
they're
going
to
go
to
you
and
we
can
get
feedback
on
those
people
that
time.
The
second
path,
which
is
I,
think
that
we
talked
about
last
month,
is
that
the
mayor
also
goes
out
and
asks
people
that
he
feels
would
be
qualified.
M
Would
you
please
consider
this
and
then
at
that
point,
then
they
go
and
they
fill
out
that
form
and
stuff
like
that
and
either
path
I'm
good
with
I
would
just
like
you
know.
The
process
that
was
outlined
to
us
was,
or
the
current
process
that
was
outlined
to
us,
is
that
the
mayor
then
tells
Beth
that
he's
considering
appointing
somebody
and
Beth
sends
an
email
to
that
person.
At
that
step
to
say
the
mayor
is
considering
appointing
you
and
you're
going
to
be
on
a
future
agenda
at
this
particular
time.
M
One
of
my
feedback
points
to
you
was
I.
Would
like
to
insert
the
notify
council
step
before
that
person
gets
an
email
from
Beth
that
says
the
mayor
is
considering
appointing
you
at
this
point
right.
So
that
way
we
can
head
off
any
kind
of
miscommunications,
and
just
if
that
notification
comes
in
your
city
manager
update
to
us
that's
great.
M
M
A
Only
thing
I
would
add
to
that
is
there's
really
there
really
aren't
just
two
there's
multiple.
No,
there
is
I
got
one
today,
City
Council
members,
saying
I've
got
somebody
that
I.
You
know
that
I
think
it
would
be
very
good
for
X,
Y
or
Z
or,
like
your
Technology
Committee,
you
have
all
the
applications
to
I've
said:
hey
you
you,
you
think
they're
good
I'll
put
them
forward
right.
So
it's
if
the
counsel
at
the
input
side
wants
to
do
that.
That's
that
would
be
very
helpful
with
nearly
300
Borden
Commission.
A
If
you've
got
names
that
you
can
feed
me,
that's
great.
We
do
have
a
pool
of
applicants,
some
of
which
are
probably
have
been
around
for
a
decade
or
more,
some
of
them
only
a
few
years,
some
of
them
only
a
few
months.
So
we
do
have
a
pool
of
names,
but
usually
they're,
more
likely
to
be
people
who
the
council's
recommended
or
that
I've
run
into,
or
that
has
mentioned
something
or
who
have
come
to
me.
B
Just
my
question
is
what
you
know:
what
what
does
that
mean
for
the
status
of
the
four
individuals
that
were
brought
forth
before
this
discussion
happened
at
committee
of
the
whole?
What
is
the
time
frame?
What
are
the
next
steps
with
that?
Do
we
need
to
begin
that
process
over
again.
That's
just
a
point.
B
L
A
What
what
I
would
ask
is
you
know
from
my
perspective,
is
if
you
do
have
some
people
that
you
think
would
be
very
good.
Please
send
me
their
names.
I
could
really
use
them,
because
very
often
we
really
are
searching,
and
especially
if
a
council
person
is
willing
to
vouch
for
them.
That's
really
really
very
helpful,
because
there
are
many
people
who,
frankly,
in
the
course
of
a
15
minute
interview
or
even
a
discussion
on
the
phone,
can
sound
very
good,
but
maybe
that's
not
how
things
turn
out.
A
So
if
there's
somebody
that
you
know
will
be
very
good
and
you've
had
experience
with
them,
please
let
me
know.
As
I
say,
there
were
only
two
people
that
I
have
ever
turned
down
in
over
six
years.
That
accounts
that
council
members
have
ever
asked
and
was
the
same
council
member,
and
it
was
because
they
did
not
live
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
to
people,
so
I
may
not
always
been
able
to
give
them
their
top
choice,
but
I've
been
able
to
to
find
a
way
and
that
that's
the
other
thing
is
that
it.
A
It
isn't.
The
only
concern
that
I
have
is
that
this
sounds
a
little
more
like
a
micro-level
decision,
where
it's
really
more
it's
more
of
an
interconnected
web.
So
if
somebody
doesn't
come
here,
then
can
I
put
that
person
there
and
you
know
how
do
you
put
the
puzzle
pieces
together?
So
let
me
go
from
councilmember
Crabill
to
black
to
Palin
hold
on.
Excuse
me.
I
wanted.
G
L
And
again,
I'll
follow
the
direction
of
the
majority
of
you,
but
I
was
going
to
try
to
avoid
a
set
time
line
a
set
time
that
you
know
like
a
14
day
time
line.
I
just
was
going
to
kick
this
information
out
as
quickly
as
I,
possibly
could
to
Alderman
Mathies
point
good
point:
we'll
do
that
and
just
see
if
that
might
improve
the
process
and
if
it
doesn't
we'll
revisit
it
or
if
I'm
told
tonight
that
you
do
want
a
14
day.
You
know
interval
in
between.
G
I've
heard
talk
about
opportunities
for
council
members
to
express
concerns
about
potential
appointees
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
understand
what
happens.
If
there
is
a
concern
expressed,
let's
say
that
I'm
just
adamant,
I,
don't
want
this
person
on
any
Commission
and
maybe
I'm
the
only
one.
What
happens
then.
A
A
A
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
agree
with
everything
that's
been
said
so
far,
I
like
the
idea
of
no
time
frame
just
to
get
as
quickly
as
possible
and
bring
it
back
and
yeah
I
think.
If
someone's
got
Grievous
concerns,
we
can
always
vote
no
on,
and
that's
that's
our
prerogative
and
majority
rules
for
better
or
for
worse
and
that's
that's
how
it
sorts
itself
out.
So
my
one
piece
is
I
guess
as
a
high
level
plug
in
I
really
like
to
see
folks
who
have
completed
Bloomington
101,
nor
does
a
great
job
with
that
program.
I
N
Councilmember
doesn't
matter,
thank
you,
I've
gotten,
some
feedback
about
putting
appointees
individually
on
the
council,
rather
than
lumping
them
all
together
into
one
item
on
the
consent
agenda.
I,
don't
know
if
that
would
work
or
if
people
would
support
the
idea,
but
it
was
feedback
that
I
received
and
the
other
thing
I
checked
the
website
there's
a
few
Commission's.
One
specifically
is
the
downtown
task
force.
That,
probably
you
know,
should
be.
A
M
M
We
haven't
had
consent
agendas
that
are
out
of
control
before
anyway,
but
then
we're
gonna
be
into
you
know
what
I
want
to
pull
a
Z
or
something
so
I
mean
it
could
be
done,
but
I
think
that
if
we
really
wanted
to
pull
somebody,
we
could
pull
them
and
just
say
this
particular
person.
I
I
would
like
to
pull
their
name
and
move
it
to
a
separate,
separate
vote
away
from
everybody
else.
So
that'd
be
my
thought
that.
N
Could
be
done
behind
the
scenes?
I
guess
I'm,
just
putting
out
the
suggestion
that
I
heard
and
I
guess
it
would
apply,
maybe
more
for
the
appointments
that
would
come
after
April.
I
mean
I,
understand,
Pratt
in
a
practical
sense
that
you
know
these
renewal
were
just
going
one
Santa
John
the
item,
but
if
somebody
comes
up
in
August
and
it's
only
one
or
two
appointments
that
maybe
they'd
be
handled
separately
and.
A
And
they
they
come.
The
thing
that's
routine
is
there
is
no
routine
other
than
other
than
the
fact
that
there
is
the
bump
in
April
a
late
late,
March
April
I
try
not
to
push
it
to
the
very
end.
So
there's
a
bump
of
names,
tons
of
names
and
often
when
the
staff
member
says
they've
done
a
good
job,
they've
shown
up
to
whatever
yeah
I.
Don't
I,
just
certainly
don't
need
to
meet
I
mean
I
would
I
couldn't
keep
down
a
day
job
if
I
had
to
sit
and
meet
with
all
of
them.
A
We
haven't
heard
from
ultimen
before
all
the
woman
excuse
me,
council,
member
catio
and
the
council
member.
You.
I
Don't
mind
real
question
from
what
donna
had
this
is
more
for
jeff,
conceivably,
though
legally
we
have
the
ability,
if
it
does
appear
in
one
item,
say
you
know,
we're
gonna
be
a
porting
I,
don't
know
Peter,
Parker
and
Bruce
Banner
and
fan
OHS.
We
could
pull
a
nose
and
then
approve
Peter
and
Bruce.
So.
B
A
B
A
H
Thinking,
there's
I
appreciate
the
conversation.
That's
going
wrong,
I'm
getting
some
feedback
here,
but
I'll
say
that
I,
like
dreaming
with
the
city
manager
proposal
too.
Let's
try
some
changes
incremental
e
and
see
where
that
Jeff
says
I'm,
not
supportive
of
a
time
frame
at
this
point
and
I
think
perhaps
if
we
go
forward
with
new
appointments,
possibly
listed
as
separate
items
and
then
maybe
reappointment
listed
and
as
group
names
that
might
feel
a
good
way
to
to
approach
the
question
about
offsetting
a
singular
name.
F
L
O
A
So
the
moment
there
could
be
a
resignation,
any
point,
as
we've
seen
on
transportation
and
especially
if
an
alderman
or
woman
is
willing
to
vouch
for
somebody
I'm
gonna
say
as
long
as
they
live
in
Bloomington
I've
never
had
any
problems
with
that
always
willing
to
do
that.
It
makes
my
job
easier
frankly,
rather
than
having
to
sometimes
try
to
beg
people
to
serve
in
a
particular
capacity
for
nothing.
So
thank
you.
Okay,
anything
else.
Yes,
I.
L
A
Okay,
we
move
right
along
to
the
next
item,
6b
discussion
and
direction
on
the
city
of
Bloomington
moratorium
on
the
issuance
of
video
gaming
licenses
and
I'm,
going
to
turn
this
over
to
mr.
Gleason
and
mr.
Jergens,
who
have
some
presentations
for
us,
and
then
we
have
a
approximately
a
30
minute
council
discussion,
Thank.
L
You,
mayor
and
council
to
revisit
where
we've
been
there's
been
a
moratorium,
that's
been
in
place,
I
think
it
was
set
to
end
April.
1St
of
this
year
was
extended,
September
1st
the
direction
that
counts,
I'm.
Sorry,
that
staff
received
was
that
we
won
seed.
We
had
a
newly
seeded
General
Assembly.
We
wanted
them
to
get
to
through
the
spring
session,
and
we
wanted
to
see
if
some
of
the
impacts
of
you
know
what
the
decisions
that
were
going
to
be
made.
L
How
would
that
trickle
down
at
the
local
level-
and
there
were
several
other
questions-
comments
along
the
way,
our
approach,
our
staff
approach
to
this
and
Jeff
Jurgens
gets
credit
for
running
the
lis
he's
going
to
be.
The
primary
presenter
tonight
is
really
just
trying
to
present
the
facts.
I
mean
this
is
a
policy
decision.
That's
at
your
level,
so
we're
going
to
walk
through
a
I,
think
a
short
presentation
and
take
direction
from
Council.
Also.
We
know
that
we
have
a
September
first
moratorium
deadline.
L
We
have
options
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
for
council
to
consider
in
no
way
are
we
trying
to
lead
this
at
all
again.
This
is
a
policy
decision
for
council,
but
we've
left
our
self
by
doing
this
at
the
community
the
whole
in
July.
We
also
have
the
August
committee
of
the
whole,
and
we
also
depending
on
the
direction
we
received
from
Council.
We
have
the
possibility
of
a
fifth
Monday
meeting
on
July
29th,
so
without
any
more
delay,
there's
Jeff
I
call
him
to
the
podium
and
there
you
go
Jeff
all.
E
Right,
Thank,
You,
mayor
and
council
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
right
into
it.
As
the
city
manager
said,
we
were
first
going
to
kind
of
charge
with
seeing
what
shook
out
in
terms
of
the
gaming
expansion
bill
that
was
approved
in
Springfield
and
the
cannabis
bill,
so
this
is
taking
several
hundred
pages
of
legislation
and
trying
to
boil
it
down
into
one
slide
here
really
trying
to
hit
the
highlights,
but
on
the
gaming
expansion
side
for
video
gaming,
the
changes
that
we
are
going
to
potentially
see
number
one.
E
The
number
of
machines
at
each
establishment
can
increase
by
one
from
five
to
six
large
truck
stops
can
now
have
up
to
ten
large
truck
stops
is
a
new
definition.
Truck
stop
is
currently
defined
as
three
acres
and
sells
ten
thousands
of
diesel
fuel
a
day.
A
large
truck
stop
is
three
acres
themselves,
fifty
thousand
gallons
of
diesel
fuel
a
day.
So
if
you
qualify
as
a
large
truck
stop,
you
can
have
up
to
ten
they're
upping
the
bat
right
now.
You
can
only
bet
up
to
$2
with
this
new
legislation.
A
E
The
bet
has
gone
up
it
used
to
be
under
the
old
law.
You
could
only
bet
up
to
two
dollars
now
you
can
bet
up
to
four.
The
award
has
more
than
doubled,
gone
from
500
up
to
almost
$1200
that
they
can
give
out.
They've
also
created
a
new
thing,
called
a
progress
award
that
can
be
up
to
ten
thousand
dollars.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
the
video-gaming
changes
that
are
and
that's
in
the
new
legislation
there's
also
sports
betting.
E
That
is
part
of
this
new
legislation,
but
really
looking
at
where
it's
going
to
be
allowed.
We
do
not
see
a
lot
of
impact
with
video
gaming,
so,
for
example,
you're
not
going
to
be
in
a
video
gaming
establishment,
also
doing
sports
betting
type
of
you
know,
facilitation
things
like
that
sports
betting
is
going
to
be
more
online,
so
you
know
your
your
computer,
probably
your
phone,
that's
Epis
stuff!
It's
also
going
to
be
at
racetracks
casinos,
large
sporting
venues,
things
like
that.
E
Finally,
then
there
are
the
land
casinos
component
of
the
gaming
bill.
There's
going
to
be
a
number
of
land
casinos
that
are
going
to
be
part
of
this,
not
in
McQueen,
County,
I,
think,
probably
everybody's
aware
of
that,
but
we
probably
going
to
see
a
lame
casino
in
Danville
in
Rockford
Waukegan,
one
in
Williamson,
County
down
south
one
another
one
in
Cook
County
and
then
what
they
call
the
mega
casino
in
Chicago.
E
So
if
you
think
of
a
video
gaming
establishment
can
have
you
know
now,
under
the
new
law
up
to
six
terminals,
a
land
casino
can
have
the
one
in
Danville
the
one
in
Waukegan
Rockford
mm
gaming
positions,
the
Chicago
can
have
up
to
4,000
gaming
so
and
the
two
County
ones
can
have
up
to
1200.
So
overall
gaming
in
Illinois,
you
know
a
lot
of
expansion
under
this
bill,
but
you
know
comparatively
probably
little
impact
to
what
we
would
see
locally
in
Bloomington.
E
M
E
So
that's
that's
kind
of
a
brief
overview
of
what
the
gaming
expansion
bill
looks
like
the
legalization
of
cannabis.
Also,
there
was
some
questions
from
the
previous
council
on
how
that
may
impact
video
gaming
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
questions
was
well.
Will
people
be
able
to
go
into
these
video
gaming
establishments
and
smoke
cannabis
or
you
know,
do
cannabis,
edibles
or
those
types
of
things,
and
the
answer
to
that
is
no
they're.
The
private
consumption
of
cannabis
is
legalized,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
regulations
and
restrictions
on
public
use
of
cannabis.
E
For.
So
when
we
look
at
the
Cannabis
side
of
how
that
might
impact
video
gaming
locally,
we
don't
see
real
big
impacts
or
correlation
between
the
two
city
manager
already
gave
a
brief
overview
of
where
we've
been
with
video
gaming
and
in
the
city
started
in
2012
in
February
of
2018,
we
put
our
license
requirements
into
effect,
started
the
moratorium
extended
that
last
February
and
then
in
March
we
adopted
the
500
per
video
gaming
machine
licensing
fee.
E
Basically,
that's
the
difference
between
what
is
put
into
a
machine
versus
what
is
taken
out.
So
that's
kind
of
what
is
left
forever
for
the
you
know,
the
owners,
the
operators,
the
state,
the
city,
everybody
else
to
take.
So
this
this
chart
kind
of
shows
how
that
net
terminal
increase
income.
You
know
some
slight
increases
over
the
year
and
I
think
it's
currently
around
60
million
somewhere
around
there.
This
chart
shows
a
little
bit
better
about
what
the
city's
distribution
is
from
that
so
of
the
net
terminal
income.
E
That
money
does
not
go
all
to
the
business.
That
difference
doesn't
go
all
to
the
business.
A
lot
of
different
people
taking
pieces
of
that
pie,
including
the
state
of
Illinois
I,
think
their
current
take
is
30
and
under
the
new
law,
goes
up
to
maybe
32
or
34
percent.
The
city
gets
5%
of
that.
So
that's
what
that
blue
represents
there
and
then
that's
what
that
blue
line
represents
there
and
you
can
see
that
are
in
the
art.
E
Take
of
this,
of
the
tax
distribution
has
increased
slightly,
but
it's
it's
not
a
huge
fluctuation
over
the
last
few
years.
A
couple
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
talk
about.
We
have
been
fairly
strict
in
the
city
in
terms
of
allowing
gaming,
parlors
or
sometimes
people
will
call
them
gaming
cafes.
So
if
you
go
somewhere
like
the
city
of
Springfield,
you'll
drive
around
you'll
see
a
lot
of
places
that
that's
really
all
that
business
is
designed
to
do.
E
They've
got
five
gaming
terminals
in
there,
they've
got
a
refrigerator
where
the
handing
out
sandwiches
and
and
that's
what
it
is,
that's
kind
of
a
gaming
parlor
and
the
city
of
Bloomington.
You
don't
see
those
we
don't
allow
them.
We
don't
give
them
liquor
licenses
and
there's
a
provision
in
our
liquor
code.
That
says,
if
that's
your
primary
focus,
you're
not
eligible
for
a
liquor
license
and
you
have
to
get
a
liquor
license
unable
to
be
able
to
get
one
of
those
types
of
video
gaming
licenses
from
the
state.
E
So
in
looking
at
this
well,
what
does
it
mean
to
have
gaming
as
your
primary
focus?
The
Liquor
Commission
looks
at
the
design
of
the
establishment,
the
number
of
machines
compared
to
customer
seating.
The
square
footage,
a
lot
of
different
factors
that
they're
looking
at
employees
revenue,
those
types
of
things
to
make
sure
that
the
city
is
not
giving
out
a
license
to
somebody
that
just
wants
that
liquor
license
so
that
they
can
get
a
gaming
permit.
Yeah.
G
E
A
E
It
looks
like
if
my
information
is
correct,
you're
around
2013
and
it's
you
know,
and
that,
as
the
mayor
said,
so
when
we've
had
issues
or
concerns
with
that
in
the
past,
those
have
been
cited
and
brought
in
front
of
the
Liquor
Commission
to
address
to
make
sure
that
they
are
not
violating
these
provisions.
No.
A
We
did
have
if
I
could
just
clarify
that
and
I
think
this
would
have
come
about
the
time.
Maybe
you
started,
we
did
have
a
an
institution
in
downtown
Bloomington
that
claimed
that
they
were
a
restaurant
because
they
had
one
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
dollars
in
video
poker
receipts.
So
we
did
clean
up
our
ordinance
in
14
I
believe
so
there
would
have
been
changes
which
says
a
restaurant.
It's
mean
it's,
it's
not
non
liquor
sales,
it.
Your
main
objective
is
to
sell
food
right.
So
there
may
have
been
some
changes
in
49.
E
So
right
now
we
have
52
gaming
establishments,
243
operational
terminals,
our
current
requirements.
We've
got
a
lot
of
contact
information.
That's
included
have
to
make
sure
that
you're
current
on
your
taxes,
a
lot
of
different
information,
the
permits,
the
licenses
for
a
video
gaming
establishment
run
May
1
to
April
30th.
The
number
of
terminals
are
currently
limited
by
the
license.
So
right
now,
when
you
are
applying
for
a
license
to
be
an
establishment,
you
have
to
tell
the
city
how
many
terminals
you
have,
and
that
is
on
your
license,
and
that
is
what
your
limited.
E
We
actually
have
some
establishments
that
don't
have
five
a
couple
of
them.
Have
you
know
two
or
three?
The
majority
of
them
do
have
five,
but
a
couple
have
less
than
five,
but
they
are
limited
to
how
many
are
on
their
license.
The
licenses
are
subject
to
revocation,
if
they're
violating
any
of
the
ordinance
provisions
or
state
laws
or
anything
like
that,
and
there
are
pretty
hefty
penalties.
E
If
you
try
and
operate
a
video
gaming
terminal
without
a
license,
including
daily
fines
that
can
range
up
to
I,
believe
500
and
as
well
as
seizure
of
the
terminals
and
we've
developed
a
good
working
relationship
with
the
Illinois
Gaming
Board,
they
contact
us.
We
contact
them
anytime,
someone's
looking
at
doing
something
with
video
gaming
within
the
community.
They
know
were
one
that
regulates
that
and
restricts
that,
and
so
we've
worked
very
well
together.
The
current
moratorium,
as
the
city
manager
said,
runs
until
September
1st.
Under
our
moratorium.
E
The
only
exception
is
for
gaming
terminals
that
were
operational
as
of
March
1
2018.
Now
you
can
waive
it
under
some
provisions
that
were
recently
amended
for
fraternal
organizations
that
had
applications
in
prior
to
March
1,
but
otherwise
you
had
to
have
opera
terminals
operational
as
of
March,
1,
2018
and
city
manager.
I
think
you
were
going
to
maybe
comment
about
a
potential
change
on
that
one
I.
L
L
If
this
larger
moratorium
discussion
is
not
complete,
but
the
Parkview
in
two
and
a
half
years
ago
burnt
down
they've
rebuilt,
bigger
and
better,
we
were
on
legal
firm
ground
to
deny
their
request
for
a
video
gaming
terminal,
but
it
could
be
viewed
as
unfortunate
the
circumstances
that
they
were
caught
in
and
they
are
more
than
up
and
running,
doing
very
well.
This
might
be
something
that
council,
if
I
sort
of
get
head
nods,
that
I
think
I
am
I.
E
With
that,
with
the
background
we
get
to
what
some
of
the
different
options
might
be,
this
is
not
an
exhaustive
list,
but
we've
kind
of
developed
three
different
options
and
the
first
option
has
a
couple
of
different
varieties
that
it
can
take,
but
this
would
basically
be
to
lift
the
moratorium.
The
council
could
set
the
number
of
video
gaming
licenses
at
a
set
amount.
So,
for
example,
right
now
we
have
52.
Maybe
you
said
it
at
52.
E
Maybe
you
said
it
at
60,
whatever
kind
of
the
the
direction
is,
but
then
we
enact
standards
or
procedures
for
issuing
new
licenses.
So,
for
example,
you
know
again
following
the
certain
food
and
beverage
requirements,
perhaps
we
enact
location
requirements
restrictions
so
there
are
not
multiple
facilities
within
proximity
to
one
another.
We
can
look
at
neighborhood
considerations.
For
example,
one
of
the
things
we've
talked
about
is
if
something
were
proposed
to
go
into
a
residential
neighborhood.
E
Maybe
the
council
wants
that
first
to
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
a
public
hearing,
so
you
get
some
feedback
on
the
impact
that
that
might
have
on
the
neighborhood.
So
basically
this
option.
One
is
saying:
okay,
we're
going
to
lift
the
moratorium
and
we're
potentially
going
to
have
more
licenses,
but
we're
going
to
set
some
requirements
for
that
and
either
in
some
communities.
E
The
council-
or
you
know
the
council
just
says:
okay,
these
are
these
the
requirements
you
have
to
meet
to
get
a
new
license
and
then
staff
the
city
clerk,
whoever
just
issues
those
licenses
as
long
as
they
meet
those
requirements.
Another
alternative
would
be
for
the
council
every
time
somebody
wants
a
new
license.
They
have
to
come
in
front
of
the
council
and
make
their
case
that
they
meet
these
requirements.
And
then
you
decide
whether
or
not
you
want
of
the
number
or
not.
So
there
are
a
couple
of
different
variations
there.
E
The
that
you
can
take
with
regard
to
this
option
option
two
is
basically
the
same,
but
you
just
don't
put
a
limit
on
the
number
of
licenses
and
this
would
be
more
a
situation
where
we
would
establish
certain
criteria
for
who
would
be
eligible
and
who
could
receive
a
license.
And
then
you
know
perhaps
staff
can
issue
those
licenses
under.
A
E
M
We
divorce
gaming
licenses
from
liquor
licenses.
I
mean
right
now,
I've
heard
many
times
where
the
assumption
is
that
if
a
business
gets
a
liquor
license
they're
going
to
be
allowed
to
get
gaming
licenses,
can
we
say
that
you
can
get
a
liquor
licenses
but
and
then
after
you
get
that,
then
you
can
apply
for
this
and
you
may
or
may
not
get
the
video
gaming
license
right.
Yeah.
E
Right
and
right
now
they
are
divorced,
they're
not
connected
in
some
communities.
You
know
so
right
now,
you've
got
to
have
if
you're
gonna
have
video
gaming,
it's
not
enough
for
you
to
have
a
liquor
license.
You've
got
to
get
a
video
gaming
license
from
the
city
or
the
state's
not
going
to
give
you
permission,
they're
not
going
to
allow
those
terminals
to
be
installed.
So
we
could
keep
that
divorced.
A
We,
the
the
one
thing
like
there
are
many
places
that
have
liquor
licenses
that
have
no
video
terminals.
Most
of
them,
like
Friday's,
isn't
going
to
have
video
gaming
and
video
poker
so
that
it's
just
not
appropriate
to
the
business,
and
we
usually
ask
right
I,
guess
we
always
ask
them
if
they're
gonna
put
in
video
poker
machines
but
I'm,
sorry,
but
you
just
there.
If
I
can
clarify
divorce,
you
you
can't
have
video
poker
without
having
some
kind
of
liquor.
E
I
think
what
what,
when
we
talk
about
divorcing
these
issues,
they
they
would
both
have
to
get
their
liquor
license,
but
they
would
also
have
to
meet
the
eligibility
requirements
for
video
gaming
license.
So
they
it
potentially
be
two
different
tracks
that
they'd
have
to
go
through
two
different
licenses
from
the
city.
They'd
have
to
get,
and.
A
C
E
Kurt
the
current
process
is
when
they
apply.
They
tell
us
how
many
terminals
they
want
and
they
can
have
up
to
the
maximum
allowed
by
the
state.
So
unless,
when
we
redo
this,
you
know
we'd
have
to
say
you
can
only
have
five
terminals
or
we'd
say
you
can
have
as
many
as
the
state
allows,
or
you
know,
or
somewhere
in
between.
C
Well,
I'm
trying
to
think
about
it
in
the
context
of
the
number.
Let's
say
if
we
went
with
number
one
option,
one
and
we
say:
okay,
we're
only
gonna,
allow
60,
then
you're
talking
about
establishment,
no
actually
I'm
talking
about
not
62
to
53,
whatever
yeah.
Okay.
So
to
me,
it
seems,
like
you
know
it
might
set
up
a
free-for-all
if
people
can.
E
And
again,
that
would
that
would
be
in
the
details
of
the
process
that
we
would
establish
and
we
could
prevent
that
right
now,
there's
really
no
process
in
what
we've
got
adopted
currently
to
allow
somebody
to
kind
of
amend
and
add
terminals.
So
we
could
establish
a
process
for
that,
but
I
think
what
we're
envisioning
is.
J
N
E
So
when
we
put
these
established,
when
we
put
the
requirements
in
in
February
of
18,
we
did
it
in
a
manner
so
that
it
was
every
you
know,
everybody
was
basically
grandfathered
in
keep.
You
know,
keep
what
they
had
operational
at
the
time.
So
if
the
council
decided
you
wanted
to
step
back
from
something,
we
probably
need
to
look
at
how
how
and
if
that
could
be
done.
Oh.
A
L
I
was
going
to
add
under
the
city
manager
comments.
You
know,
we
stand
ready
to
take
notes,
see
what
the
next
steps
next
Direction
is
from
Council.
If
you
would
go
back
one
slide
prior,
we
did
think
we
took
the
liberty
to
think
that
the
three
basic
options
were
the
obvious
ones,
but
especially
under
option
one.
There
are
so
many
different
variations
and
possibilities.
You
know
we
cap
in
terms
of
total
number
of
terminals
and
then
reassess
once
we
hit
that
number
and
sort
of
the
the
market
dried.
L
So
you
know
saturation
of
the
market
drives
next
steps.
We
look
at
the
total
number
of
establishments.
Another
area
that
we
talked
internally
like
Jeff
was
saying
you
know.
Maybe
there
is
an
additional
component
if
a
establishment
is
going
to
locate
or
wants
to
locate
and
something
that's
zoned
residential,
you
know,
maybe
additional
set
of
rules
apply
in
a
scenario
like
that
where
they
follow.
You
know
automatically
push
to
the
plan.
L
Commission
automatically,
there's
a
public
hearing,
so
you
know
the
possibilities
for
this
council
to
decide
really,
if
you
can
think
of
it,
it's
something
that
we
can
consider.
As
you
know,
it
has
staff
on
whatever
the
next
steps
might
be.
I'm
actually
gonna
call
Melissa
up
to
the
podium
real
quick
and
it's
not
not
an
economic
development
component
like
we're
trying
to
push
one
direction
or
over
the
other,
but
there
has
been
discussions
well,
what
has
occurred?
You
know
with
staff.
L
You
know
how
many
times
has
the
Economic,
Development,
Department
or
the
clerk's
office
been
contacted
by
potential
new
businesses.
You
know
regarding
video,
gaming
and
and
the
known
moratorium
that
we
have
you
know.
Is
there
a
number
that's
sitting
on
the
sidelines,
waiting
for
council
to
make
a
decision
so
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Melissa
just
real
quickly,
yeah.
P
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that,
since
the
moratorium
was
put
in
place
between
the
clerk's
office
and
the
economic
development
department,
we've
heard
from
about
approximately
15
businesses
that
are
either
current
businesses
here
in
the
city
or
potential
developments,
people
are
reaching
out
to
see
where
we
are
what's
the
status
than
just
kind
of
a
waiting
to
see
what
the
decision
of
the
moratorium
will
be.
That's
kind
of
where
we
are
right
now,
Melissa.
P
N
I
Right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Can
we
go
back
to
slide
with
the
options?
Just
I
think
that's
a
really
good
one
to
have
up
there
yeah
just
to
make
explicit
I
do
think
that
we
should
be
a
making
exception
for
Park
View.
That
love
is
to
come
back
next
meeting.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
shared
by
a
majority
of
the
council,
but
that
would
be
expeditious
as
possible
on
that
one.
I
For
me,
it's
you
know
it's
got
to
be
clear
in
these.
These
types
of
conversations
where
I
met
I,
really
don't
see
a
lot
of
viability
and
options.
Two
or
three
personally
I'd
like
to
see
us
be
somewhere
an
option.
One
I'm,
just
I'm,
really
baffled
by
the
number
of
casinos
that
we're
trying
to
put
in
the
state-
and
it
seems
very
strange
to
me
that
we're
gonna
have
be
surrounded
by
them
at
this
point
in
time.
I
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
gonna
have
an
impact
on
our
market
here
currently
with
people
going
to
Danville
I'm,
not
personally
a
fan
of
slots,
I'm
more
of
a
table.
Games
kind
of
guy,
but
I
saw
I'm
not
here
to
judge
on
people's
choices,
but
just
it's
very
bizarre
that
we
are
that
we
were
just
exploding
for
me
personally,
I'd
like
to
do
something
where
we
let
more
of
the
market
drive
the
price
of
the
licensing
fees
as
well
as
the
number
of
terminals.
I
I
think
the
problem
here
is,
is
the
number
of
terminals
then,
and
I
guess
I
could
hear
an
argument
for
establishment,
but
I'm
mostly
focused
on
the
number
of
terminals.
When
I
see
the
despair,
the
the
the
difference
between
Bloomington
and
normal,
it's
quite
stark
and
the
number
of
terminals
we
have
versus
what
they
have
in
proportion
to
our
city
sizes.
I
Personally,
I
think
we
should
be
doing
something
where,
as
X
number
of
terminals
and
I
think
that
number
would
be
about
250.
So,
just
a
few
more
to
speak
to
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
have
and
every
year
you
go
out
and
you
bid
for
your
license
and
if
there's
more
people
that
want
terminals
than
there
are
licenses,
the
price
goes
up
and
we
take
it
from
there.
I
think,
fraternal
organizations
and
I
think
social
organizations
should
have
a
lower
fee.
I
You
know
a
lot
of
folks
have
reached
out
to
me
about
this
topic,
specifically
and
I've,
heard
a
lot
of
arguments
about
the
mental
health
impact
of
video
gaming.
Some
of
the
money
that's
taken
out
of
the
community
and
I
hear
that
Giants
and
some
articles
over
I
really
liked
the
one
you
sent
about
how
Illinois
is
turning
into
the
gaming
capital
in
the
Midwest,
because
it's
just
it's
stark
I
mean
you
can't
deny
what's
going
on
and
again
this
is
from
somebody
who
loves
a
casino
I.
I
Did
it's
very
it's
weird
to
think
that
we're
going
to
be
this
is
in
Vegas
or
Atlantic
City
for
that
matter?
Nor
do
we
want
to
turn
into
it,
but
the
piece
that
I
thought
was
most
interesting
was
in
one
of
the
articles
you
sent.
It
was
talking
about
how
Illinois
has
the
the
worst
bond
rating
of
all
the
states,
and
we
are
at
least
likely
to
to
ride
out
any
recession
that
comes
forward
and
and
there's
a
recession
probably
coming.
No
doubt
we
can't
grow
for
forever.
I
So
that
makes
me
very
worried
about
all
this,
so
I
guess
to
bring
it
home
locally.
My
opinion
would
be
that
something
in
the
terms
of
option,
one,
a
little
more
flesh
on
the
bones
based
on
this
conversation
I,
like
the
idea
of
limiting
it
to
some
number,
that's
slightly
more
than
we
have
right
now
and
I.
Think
250
is
a
nice
round
number
that
speaks
to
the
concerns
that
are
out
there,
and
then
we
do
a
bidding
process.
I
F
You
I'm
for
extending
the
moratorium
forever
and
here's
why
the
upper
saturation
of
video
gambling
weakens
the
local
economy.
The
proliferation
of
video
gambling
promotes
an
uptick
in
crime.
The
expansion
of
video
gambling
in
the
community
makes
some
people
very
rich,
namely
the
corporations
that
manufacture
and
sell
the
machines
and
the
establishments
that
have
them.
Rarely
does
this
trickle
down
into
the
broader
economy
in
the
mean
time
and
makes
some
people
very
poor.
It's
been
said
that
this
moratorium
is
unfair,
that
it
gives
businesses
an
uneven
playing
field.
F
I
will
argue
that
gambling
itself
is
inherently
unfair.
Some
people
win
and
some
people
lose
how
unfair
life
is
unfair.
Who
are
you
worried
about
businesses
who
understandably,
want
to
belly
up
to
the
trough
or
the
rest
of
the
community?
I'm,
not
anti-business?
Nor
am
I
against
people
making
lots
of
money
good
for
them.
Just
don't
do
it
on
the
backs
of
the
rest
of
us.
Don't
feather
your
nests
on
the
misery
of
others.
F
I'll
also
say
that
if
a
business
can't
make
it
on
its
own
merits,
without
video
gambling
than
there
are
crappy
business
not
to
put
too
fine
a
point
on
it,
we
as
a
nation
are
very
slow
to
learn
our
lessons.
We
seem
to
take
two
steps
forward
and
one
step
back
after
the
Civil
War.
When
we
expanded
to
the
west,
gambling
was
everywhere,
and
people
came
to
realize
what
a
serious
problem
it
was.
F
If
prevented
communities
from
getting
off
the
ground
because
of
all
the
violence
and
grafted
promoted
by
1920,
all
gambling
except
horse-racing,
was
outlawed.
Most
states
actually
wrote
it
into
their
constitutions,
so
generations
going
forth
would
have
a
reminder
of
what
happened
in
1970.
Illinois
rewrote
its
constitution
in
1971,
bingo
was
legalized
in
Illinois.
In
1974,
the
lottery
was
launched
in
1990
riverboat
gambling
was
approved
in
1999
George
Ryan
declared
that
river
boats
no
longer
had
to
sail
the
river.
They
all
immediately
docked
and
became
casinos
in
2012
video
became
legal.
F
It
should
be
noted
that
part
of
casino
profits
go
to
shore
up
the
schools.
Video
gambling
profits
don't
go
to
the
schools
and
they
take
away
from
casino
business.
So
video
gaming
takes
money
away
from
our
schools
and
by
the
way,
Illinois
is
dead
last
for
state
funding
of
schools,
which
is
why
our
property
taxes
are
so
high.
Sixty-Two
percent
of
all
of
our
property
taxes
go
to
the
schools.
We
just
don't
learn
since
1970
has
Illinois
become
a
more
vibrant
economy.
Has
crime
decreased
and
our
people
prospering
more?
F
No
does
it
all
have
to
do
with
gambling?
No,
but
a
good
part
of
it
does
Illinois
is
ranked
number
one
for
gambling
related
arrests
per
capita
in
the
nation.
We
can
put
a
stop
to
this
blight
in
our
community
right
now,
just
like
some
of
them
are
prosperous.
Illinois.
You
know,
communities
have
already
done
communities
like
Wheaton,
River,
Forest
and
Naperville.
Let's
strive
to
be
like
them.
F
Illinois
now
has
more
places
to
bet
the
Nevada
Bloomington
got
an
award
for
having
so
many
video
gaming
machines.
That's
not
an
award.
We
should
be
proud
of.
What's
really
sad
is
that
lower
income
areas
are
targeted
for
this
kind
of
business
from
time
to
time.
I
think
that
exception
should
be
made.
The
Park
View
Inn
is
one
of
them
and
long-standing
fraternal
organizations
probably
should
get
a
break
because
their
profits
do
go
to
good
causes,
but
other
than
that
I
see
no
reason
to
continue
with
this
folly.
F
We
as
council
members,
are
tasked
with
promoting
a
healthy
happy
community.
Within
the
past
year,
we've
seen
an
uptick
in
violent
crime
and
McClain
County
has
been
placed
on
the
poverty
watch
list.
It
behooves
us
as
council
members
to
do
everything
we
can
to
restore
balance
to
a
situation
that
is
tilting
out
of
control.
If
you
care
anything
about
reducing
crime,
revitalizing
revitalizing,
the
community
and
easing
poverty
you'll
be
for
extending
the
moratorium
to
thank
you.
A
H
With
philosophy
that
citizens
will
ask
for
goods
and
services
from
their
municipality
from
their
governments
and
I,
think
that
first
thought
for
when
they
make
those
requests
recognizing
that
they
themselves
are
charged
with
paying
for
those
goods
and
services.
So
this
concept
that
you
transfer
the
responsibility
for
the
goods
and
services
that
you
take
in
desire
as
a
as
a
raw
biding
and
and
good
citizen
onto
someone
else,.
H
H
H
Gambling
addiction,
sometimes
our
situation
with
the
VG
cheese
and
label,
the
crack,
cocaine,
gambling
and
that
kind
of
thing
is
not
something
that
I
think
a
growing
community
and,
in
fact,
I
would
like
to
explore
how
we
could
bring
about
a
reduction
of
all.
She
ever
stopped
there,
because
I
think
that
gave
no.
C
You
know
four
or
five
years
and
and
and
to
also
see
what
you
know
all
this
expansion
of
gambling
is
going
to
do
in
future
years.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
be
monitoring
to
inform
some
of
our
decisions,
but
also
generally
I'm.
Not
one
to
you
know:
I'm,
not
a
big
fan
of
gambling
I,
you
know,
I,
don't
do
it
I
it
like
the
plague.
C
C
I'm,
a
big
spender
but
I
also
don't
want
to
impose
you
know,
but
because
some
people
have
different
ways
of
entertaining
themselves,
so
I'm
always
very
cautious
and
careful
not
to
impose
my
way
of
life
on
others.
But
at
the
same
time,
though,
fall
for
us
in
Bloomington
want
one
of
the
things
that
I.
You
know
and
I
know
the
article
that
all
the
painters
sent
us
also
made
me
think
about.
C
That
is
the
fact
that
before
we
make
all
these
decisions
in
a
vacuum,
we
need
to
think
about
what
is
this
going
to
do
for
the
city
of
Bloomington,
because
when
I
think
of
Bloomington
I
think
of
Bloomington
as
our
brand
as
a
city?
We,
we
are
a
city
that
is
generally
when
I,
when
I
think
Burlington
I
I
tend
to
think
fairly
prosperous,
really
good
school.
C
Family-Friendly
good
place
to
you
know
for
your
kids
to
go
to
school,
a
good
place
to
raise
a
family,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
people
usually
you
know,
come
back
to
Bloomington.
If
they've
been
here,
they
tend
to
come
back
and
if
you've
been
here
for
college
they'll,
come
back
because
of
all
those
reasons
so
and
I'm
not
saying
that
to
necessarily
advocate
one
position
or
another,
but
I'm
just
saying
that
for
us,
you
think
about
what
is
this
going
to
do
to
the
community?
C
You
know
when
you
add
massive
expansion
of
gambling
you're,
also
adding
recreational
marijuana
all
together.
So
we
we
do
need
to
to
really
think
about
those
things
before
we
we
make
it
so,
but
I
will
tell
you
for
sure.
I
I
would
be
for
option
number
one
which
have
a
form
that
that
it's
going
to
take.
You
know
whether
it's
a
reduction
of
the
number
of
terminals
or
you
know,
limiting
what
we
have
right
now,
but
certainly
not
expansion.
B
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
something
that
councilmember
huawei
brought
up,
which
is
the
tracking
of
addiction,
and
you
know,
based
on
the
articles
that
I
have
read
in
the
research
I
have
done
on
this
issue.
You
know
part
of
the
reason
that
we
can't
that
we
haven't
been
doing
a
good
job
at
that.
The
resources
haven't
been
invested
in
actually
protecting
people
and
responding
to
the
gambling
addiction
problems
that
have
come
with
the
explosion
of
gambling
in
the
state
and
so
kind
of
you
know.
B
The
state
is
saying
we
care
about
this,
but
isn't
putting
the
money
behind
it
to
actually
show
that
that
we
care
and
that
we
want
to
get
people
help
so
I
think
that's
something
worth
keeping
in
mind.
I
am
curious,
and
this
is
not
a
question
I
sent
ahead
of
time.
So
I'm
sorry,
but
do
we
have
a
sense
of
what
the
median
or
average
or
whatever
good
number?
It
is
for
us
to
think
about
per
terminal
that
is
actually
going
to
businesses?
B
A
Okay,
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
the
of
the
dollars
that
I've
seen
in
all
the
woman
I
see
the
councilmember
painter
has
some
specifics,
but
what
I've
seen
it's
not
unusual
to
be
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
profit?
Now,
that's
not
typical!
That
may
not
be
the
median.
The
median
might
be
more
like
seventy-five
to
eighty
thousand,
but
it
could
be
as
little
as
thirty
or
forty
or
fifty
thousand.
It
can
be
closer
to
140
hundred.
A
When
we
were
thinking
of
putting
a
big
video
terminal
in-
and
he
said
he
has
a
million
dollars
invested
in
mugsy's,
and
my
response
was
I
appreciate
that,
but
you
get
all
of
that
back
in
six
years,
without
cell
to
selling
one
drop
of
alcohol
or
a
wing,
you
get
it
back
from
just
having
those
five
video
terminals,
so
the
net
video
terminal
in
six
years
would
have
provided
all
of
his
in
private
investment
back
to
him
net
income.
Now,
whatever
electricity,
he
had
pays
to
run
me.
A
You
know
the
video
terminals,
but
one
of
our
this
is
not
me,
although
I
could
have
said
this.
One
of
our
longtime
liquor
commissioners
said
that
video
terminals
were
kind
of
like
a
license
to
print
money,
but
it
is
it's
definitely
something
that
obviously
is
important
for
us
to
deal
with.
I'm.
Sorry,
okay,.
F
E
Sing
fee
back
in
March
when
that
was
approved,
I
think
we
looked
at.
E
A
L
Did
when
we
presented
and
we
felt
that
some
places
where
it
was
challenged
and
it
went
to
court
that
was
up
to
$1,000
per
terminal
unlikely.
You
know
when
we
implemented
video
gaming
in
this
community.
If
there
had
been,
you
know
that
kind
of
fee
there
probably
would
have
been
no
outcry
from
the
local
businesses,
because
video
gaming
was
something
that
they
wanted
so
badly.
But
we
just
picked
a
middle-of-the-road
number
built
that
that's
where
we
had
consensus
of
the
council
at
that
time
and.
I
B
F
G
B
Then
one
last
qualifying
question
for
council
member
painter,
which
is
one
of
the
things
you
mentioned,
was
wanting
to
see
this
pullback
or
wanting
to
see
the
moratorium
continue,
but
then
also
being
somewhat
support
or
supportive
of
the
Parkview.
In
still
getting
valeri,
just
wanna
clarify
what
we're
that
were,
that
yeah.
F
Well,
it
comes
from
I
talked
to
some
people
and
discovered
that
they
had
video
terminals
before
the
place
burnt
down
and
they
figured
they
were
going
to
get
to
keep
them
afterwards,
and
so
not
only
did
they
build
exactly
what
they
had
before,
but
they
built
better
and
they
were
expecting
on
the
comb.
And
then
the
father
passed
the
business
down
to
his
son,
so
it
changed
hands,
so
he
you
know
was
supposedly
you
know
out
of
the
running
for
having
terminals
again
and
they
kind
of
got
caught
with
their
pants
down.
F
B
Just
yes,
or
just
making
sure
that
I'm
understanding
what
you'd
be
supportive
of
is
continuing
the
moratorium,
but
the
establishments
that
were
grandfathered
in
to
keep
all
of
those
right
so
you're
not
suggesting
that
we
pull
back
to
three
three
terminals
or
something
less
than
what
we
have
now.
No.
N
Read
everything
this
councilmember
painter
sent
and
she
is
absolutely
correct.
The
state
pushed
through
a
bill
in
2012
with
the
idea
of
stimulating
the
economy
and
it
didn't
and
sheer
we
go
again.
A
bill
was
pushed
through
to
stimulate
the
economy,
I'm
very
business-friendly,
so
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
continuing
the
moratorium
forever.
N
So
my
suggestion
would
be,
you
know,
lift
the
moratorium,
let
it
go
or
until
we
decide
if
we
want
to
do
prohibition,
if
that's
what
Naperville
does
then
maybe
we
should
follow
them?
I,
don't
know
how
that
would
work
legally,
but
you
know
when
someone's
up
for
license.
Maybe
we
just
don't
ring
in
license
or
something
only
that's
up
to
you
to
figure
out
I
mean
to
me
having
them
with
moratorium
forever
would
basically
be
the
same
as
prohibition,
at
least
for
new
businesses
coming
in.
F
Really
quickly
Naperville
and
Wheaton
and
River
Forest,
they
never
allowed
them
there,
and
you
know
my
thought
is:
if
they're
in
an
establishment
already,
then
they
become
dependent
on
that
money
and
you
know
to
yank
that
away
from
them
just
to
have
a
prohibition
on
sudden
I
think
that
would
be
counterproductive
to
our
local
economy.
But
anyway,
okay.
M
Thanks
mayor,
so
I
find
myself
in
agreement
with
pretty
much
everything
that
Scott
said:
I
like
the
idea
of
limiting
the
total
number
of
machines
versus
the
number
of
establishments,
I
also
Jeff.
What
I
would
be
more
interested
in
keeping
the
number
of
machines
that
we've
got
a
limit
of
five
right
now.
M
So
if
the
business
moves,
if
the
business
sells,
I'd
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
it's
not
an
automatic
guarantee
that
somebody
is
going
to
just
because
the
old
business
had
them
that
the
new
business
is
going
to
have
them.
You
know
an
under
the
new
ownership
either.
So
you
know
I
think
that
there
should
be,
and
that
puts
the
onus
on
the
business
owner
to
plan
accordingly.
If
we
tell
them
this
right
now,
you
know
as
they're
doing
their
estate
and
the
Secession
planning
for
their
businesses.
M
They
can
make
decisions
now,
based
on
the
fact
that
you
know
it's
not
guaranteed
that
these
are
going
to
transfer
right
it's
and
it's
the
only
thing
that
I
I'm,
not
sure
that
I
agree
with
Scott
on
is
the
bidding
of
the
licenses.
I.
Would
my
only
fear
what
it
becomes
a
pay-to-play
scenario
where
smaller
establishments
that
currently
have
them
get
outbid
by
bigger
companies
that
come
in,
be
they
change?
There's
some
sort
of
somebody
with
deeper
pockets.
M
Then
some
of
our
local
small
businesses
do
and
they
get
priced
out
of
being
able
to
do
this.
You
know
because
it
goes
back
to
that
same
thing,
that
if
you've
currently
got
them
as
Johnny,
said
that
if
your
business
model
starts
to
depend
on
that
revenue
coming
in
of
who
you
can
hire,
how
you're
going
to
invest
your
money
and
future
expansions
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
if
we
had
a
lottery
system
or
a
bidding
system
where
you
could
bid
on
them,
you
know
now.
M
Maybe
we
do
that
for
new
licenses
right
if
it
license,
has
become
available
sometime
in
the
future,
but
not
for
people
who
are
currently
grandfathered
and
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
that.
So
it
could
be
a
dual
approach,
but
I
think
having
it
so
that
everybody
has
the
bit
every
year
could
cause
some
pretty
serious
chaos.
So
thanks.
A
It
essentially
is
currently
the
case
because
you
don't,
even
if
you
sell,
let's
say
you
soldiers,
you
don't
sell
liquor
at
your
establishment,
but
if
you
sold
your
establishment,
that
was
a
day
a
restaurant
that's
sold
quite
a
bit
of
alcohol
that
does
not
transfer.
When
you
sell
your
property,
you
have
that
the
new
owner
has
to
get
a
new
liquor
license,
so
a
liquor
license
doesn't
transfer,
and
so
therefore
you
know
we
still
do
have
control
over.
O
L
O
That's
what
I
thought,
but
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
Thank
you
for
the
conversation.
It's
really
helped
to
solidify
my
thinking
and
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
we
might
I
don't
know.
If
you
know
the
answer
this,
but
would
our
community
have
an
option
of
creating
a
self
exclusion
list
here,
because
I
know
the
state
did
not
add
that
to
their
to
their
law
that
just
passed
in
terms
of
just
providing
more
mental
health
support.
I.
O
O
Self-Empowered
Nasik
right
you,
don't
you
don't
want
it
right,
you
don't
want
to
want
to
violate
it,
and
I
did
appreciate
reading
through
everything
that
that
council,
woman
painter
sent
and
the
state
is
trying
very
hard
to
balance
this
new.
You
know
gambling
central
that
we've
created
by
increasing
the
the
help
for
mentally
affected
by
6.8
million
dollars,
so
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
how
that
plays
out.
O
If
the
regulations
are
thoughtful
and
there's
a
an
enforcement
of
the
code,
and
we
really
think
about
what
it
means
to
to
potentially
cap
and
to
enforce
and
to
protect
vulnerable
citizens,
I
would
be
very
much
in
favor
of
location
restrictions,
for
example.
Then
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
go
forward.
So
thank
you.
E
Yeah
I
mean
option:
1
is,
could
take
a
lot
of
different
directions,
but
I
think
the
difference
between
option
one
and
option
3
is
option.
3
is
saying
we're
not
going
to
look
at.
You
know
adding
more
any
more
gaming,
with
the
exception
of
the
Parkview,
not
good.
Even
you
know,
don't
come
back
to
us.
We're
not
going
to
be
talking
about
this
for
another
several
months
or
whatever.
P
E
B
A
Wouldn't
if
I
could
just
piggyback
off,
even
though
still
at
the
floor,
but
wouldn't
the
as
part
of
the
option
of
one
in
in
addition
to
or
perhaps
instead
of
a
specific
number
could
it
include
number
three
including
license
standard
so
in
other
words,
having
some
very
clear
criteria.
I
think
some
have
been
you
know
alluded
to,
perhaps
not
a
neighbourhood
establishment,
especially
if
there's
already
a
neighbourhood
establishment
within
a
certain
just.
H
A
H
Option
one
with
the
additional
idea
that
I'd
like
to
hear
anyone,
thoughts
on
this
of
right-sizing,
the
number
of
vgt
licenses,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
the
number
we
currently
have.
It
just
seems
to
be
an
extraordinary
number
for
our
population
when,
if
we
gauge
it
by
other
areas-
or
you
know,
we
know
that
the
tangent
reverse
has
far
fewer
of
these
machines
than
we
do
and
that's
not
just
a
proportionate
amount
based
on
the
population
is
quite
quite
a
few
or
less.
H
If
that's
the
right
number,
and
then
we
could
make
changes
as
we
go
along
if
there's
a
particular
business
model
that
will
be
brought
to
us
and
we're
excited
about
it,
and
we
want
to
vote
it
in.
We
could
make
an
amendment
and
I'll
say
one
more
thing
and
then
I'll
stop
for
reactions
and
hopefully
you're
able
to
hear
this
I
do
favor
grandfathering
in
the
Parkview
bit
so
I'll
stop
there.
Okay,.
A
B
Going
back
to
you,
yeah
no
problem
I
actually
was
going
to
bring
up
something
that
was
already
brought
up,
which
is
if
the
thought
is
to
right-size
the
number.
If
that
number
seems
too
high
to
a
majority
of
the
folks
around
the
table,
then
it
does
seem
like
we
need
some
combination
of
1
&
2
so
as
to
not
gank
those
terminals
out
from
businesses
that
currently
rely
on
that
income,
but
still
be
able
to
get
that
number
down.
B
But
I
guess
I'm
not
clear
whether
that's
what
other
councilmembers
work
shooting
for
whether
they
want
to
see
the
number
stay,
the
same
see
that
number
grow
with
some
restriction
or
whether
they
want
to
see
that
number
go
down.
I!
Think
that
that's
what
clarity
that
I
don't
think
I'm
getting
from
I
think
the
voters
coming.
A
Given
I'm
gonna
turn
to
you,
counsel
number
Treville
in
just
a
second
but
but
it
seems
like
we've,
got
several
variables
moving
back
and
forth
here
that
that
I
think
administration's
going
to
need
clarity
on
and
I.
Don't
think
we're
going
to
solve
them
this
evening.
So
I
think
that
this
is
a
subject
that
we
need
to
to
continue
and
then,
if
possible,
maybe
list
some
of
the
variables
that
that
we're
considering
and
I
have
to
say.
Let
me
turn
to
councilmember
Cray
bill
before
I.
G
Subsequent
meeting
and
I'll
just
be
brief,
I
mean
I,
don't
have
any
new
ideas.
I,
certainly
appreciate
Johnny's,
alderman
painters,
alderwoman
painters,
interest
in
the
in
this
issue
and
her
expertise
and
and
I
I,
really
don't
like
the
fact
that
this
really
you
know,
impacts
the
poorest
segments
of
our
society.
G
It's
a
regressive
type
of
attacks
and-
and
it
seems
like
the
state-
has
done
this
as
a
moneymaker
versus
looking
at
not
looking
at
the
cost
of
this
at
all,
as
as
convincing,
as
can
be
seen
by
their
recent
amendment
that
didn't
put
more
of
the
burden
on
the
manufacturers
of
the
machine
but
increase
the
amount
people
can
bet.
So
they
can
lose
more.
So
I
would
say
that
I
would
be
more
in
line
with
option
three,
and
if
it's
option
one
it
should
be
very
restrictive.
That's
all
I'll
say
yeah.
G
A
You
and
having
dealt
with
this
as
liquor,
commissioner,
for
a
long
time,
I've
learned
far
more
about
video
gaming
machines
than
I
ever
wanted
to
know,
as
somebody
who
I
put
two
quarters
in
a
slot
machine
back
in
1981
and
lost
both
of
them
and
I've,
never
other
than
that.
I
haven't
gambled
so
I'm,
not
a
gambler
but
and
I
am
do
want
to
thank
councilmember
paint
her
for
extensive
research
in
this
in
and,
as
she
speaks,
she's
pointing
out
the
social
justice
aspects
of
this.
A
That
I
think
are
pull
up
my
heartstrings
and
are
undone
unmistakable.
The
only
literally
the
only
concern
that
I
have
on
the
other
end
is
some
of
what
we've
talked
about
before
in
terms
of
economic
development,
and
maybe
that's
what
can
under
number
option
one.
Maybe
there
are
certain
circumstances
like,
for
example,
a
building
that
I'm
looking
at
right
now,
part
of
right
now
had
this.
This
possibility
of
redevelopment
did
fall
through,
but
one
of
the
things
was
having
a
bar
that
used
to
exist
there,
but
part
of
their
model
to
make
the
business
work.
A
A
But
what
I'm
suggesting
that
we
do
and
I
will
turn
to
you
councilmember
Matthew,
in
a
second,
because
we
are,
we,
we've
articulated
I,
think
the
problem
and
many
of
the
issues
and
many
of
the
variables
is
unfortunately
talk
to
of
the
staff
and
I'm
also
looking
at
Melissa
for
economic
development
advice
too,
for
maybe
some
of
the
the
options
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
as
we
move
forward,
because,
obviously
we're
not
voting
on
anything
tonight.
But
I.
A
Don't
think
we're
ready
to
after
a
policy,
especially
this
were
way
over
in
our
budgeted
time
anyway,
we
could
extend
that,
but
I
don't
know
that
it
would
be
helpful
this
evening.
I
think
maybe
thinking
about
this.
Looking
back
at
some
of
what
older
woman
painter
has
sent
us
and
some
of
our
other
thoughts
and
options
might
be
helpful
and
either
bring
this
up
at
another
meeting
or
maybe
even
another
committee.
The
whole
meeting
councilmember
mathy
I
was.
M
Actually
going
to
ask
some
questions
about
the
this
idea
of
right
sizing,
it
seems
to
me
that
Illinois
was
actually
one
of
the
trailing
states
that
legalized
video
gaming
machines,
certainly
not
a
leader
on
that
one
and
so
I
was
wondering.
Maybe
there's
somebody.
That's
already
done
some
research
between
you
know.
We've
got
competing
interests
of
the
actual
terminal,
providing
companies
as
well
as
we've
gotten
nonprofits,
and
maybe
there
is
some
research.
That's
been
done
in
terms
of
a
number
of
machines
per
population
or
something
of
that
nature.
It
could
already
exist
out
there.
A
E
Also
provide
some
information
on
comparable
cities
like
champagne.
They
have
278,
Peoria
has
271,
Decatur
has
416
Springfield,
has
a
I,
don't
I'm
not
reading
my
handwriting
on
that,
but
you
know
so.
There
are
other
comparable
communities
that
we
can
look
at
too
in
terms
of
how
many
they
have
Danville,
which
is
gonna,
get
a
lane
because
you
know
only
has
141,
though
you
know
so,
there's
there's
just
all
kinds
of
information
that
we
can
provide
on.
This
Rockford
has
460.
M
A
We've
got
several
different
variables
about
expanding
additional
machines.
What
might
the
in
the
standards
look
like?
If
they're
going
to
be
exceptions,
then
they
would
need
to
come
to
the
council?
What
are
the
criteria
that
we
council's
would
look
at
for
that
and
we
do
have
a
few
okay.
We're
gonna
have
to
be
fairly
quick
unless
we
extend
the
time
because
we're
about
a
hundred
percent
over
budget,
okay,
I'm
gonna
start
with
councilmember
Kenny,
oh
yeah,.
B
B
Options
right
now
right,
so
I
would
be
interested
in
being
a
part
of
even
just
an
informal
working
group.
Maybe
a
couple
of
us
can
work
with
staff
to
come
up
with
a
proposal
that
we
can
bring
at
the
next
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting.
You
know
I
would
be
willing
to
be
a
part
of
that
group,
but
I
also
if
somebody
else
wants
to
be
a
part
of
it.
I
certainly.
P
B
O
A
You
and
and
then
maybe
there
I
might
hate
to
soar
another
monkey
wrench
into
it,
but
but
just
based
on
some
of
what
council
member
painter
Danny
make
suggested.
Yet
are
there
some
ways
that
we
might
be
able
to
channel
if
there
are
future
revenues?
If
we
decide
to
go,
you
know
we
give
two
or
three
or
five
more
licenses
earmark
that
money
for
people
with
gambling
addictions
in
our
neighborhoods
anyway.
I
think.
B
L
I
think,
given
this
topic,
it
would
be
helpful.
You
know
this
is
one
that
you
guys
are
looking
to
set
policy.
I
definitely
do
not
have
clear
direction.
You
know
at
this
point
you
know,
I
think.
The
one
thing
that
I
do
know
is
we're
not
going
to
let
the
market
drive
the
numbers,
so
that's
off
the
table,
but
we're
somewhere.
L
You
know
in
a
moratorium
range
to
controlled
growth
or
a
cap
on
the
growth,
but
there
is
a
you
know,
a
number
of
other
components
that
we
need
to
consider
and
whether
it's
a
working
group
to
assist
or
whether
it's
going
to
be
three
on
one
meetings
as
we
progress
before
we
have
our
next
public
discussion.
Those
definitely.
B
I
O
A
I
That
was,
we
made
a
fast
decision
on
that
one
yeah
I
guess
I,
like
the
idea
of
a
working
group,
but
I
also
think
it
would
be
very
important
here-
is
that
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
different
ideas
on
the
table
and
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
the
practicality
and
the
legal
implementation
of
if
we
decide,
175
or
182
or
whatever.
That
number
is
what
happens
to
the
ones
that
are
currently
in
existence.
So
I
almost
would
prefer
a
conversation
like
this,
but
a
more
flushed
out
menu
options
around
option
one.
I
So
then
we
can
then
come
back
with
a
future
proposal
in
conjunction
with
whatever
group
wants
to
go
together
on
that
I.
Unfortunately,
don't
know
enough
about
this
topic
to
really
provide
a
lot
of
value
to
that
conversation,
but
I
am
very
curious
to
know
the
different
provisions
and
what
that
could
look
like,
and
then
we
select
based
on
what
the
majority
decides
as
we've
done
here
tonight,
just
in
in
terms
of
a
high-level
philosophical
policy.
Okay,.
G
A
A
L
Quickies
we
have
special
liquor
meeting.
That's
tomorrow,
night
6:00
p.m.
just
wanted
I
know.
Council
is
aware,
that's
more
so
for
the
community.
This
was
after
a
discussion
that
we
previously
had
that
the
request
came
for
this
special
liquor
meeting
so
that
again,
as
tomorrow
night
6:00
p.m.
right
here,
number
two
I
will
be
out
next
week.
L
Work-Related
deputy
city
manager,
Tyus,
will
be
setting
right
here
for
the
council
meeting
on
July
22nd
and
then
also
one
to
share
the
public
announcement
was
made,
but
one
to
share
that
the
economic
development
council
has
selected
their
executive
director.
I
was
part
of
the
selection
committee,
along
with
County
Administrator,
Camille,
Rodriguez,
and
also
Town
Manager,
Pam,
Reese
and
others
that
were
a
part
of
the
board,
but
very
excited.
L
A
A
Okay,
is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
Selma
moved
by
councilmember
cada
yo?
Is
there
a
second
okay
by
councilmember
painter,
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
were
opposed.