City of Bloomington, Indiana Arts Commission, 12 Aug 2020

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All right well we'll go, go ahead and get this meeting started.

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At 502, and since we have several members that are not our regulars, I would.

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Appreciate it, everybody takes just a minute to introduce yourselves commissioners included, um so I'll go ahead, and my name is brian.

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Gomez, palacio and I'm the chair of the bloomington arts, commission and I'll pass it on to nick hi, I'm nick blanford. um I am.

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The chair of the public arts planning committee.

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Rachel hi I'm rachel, and I am the chair of our.

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Grants committee and I'm gonna pass it to essence.

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Hey I'm sam sven and I have been on the osha commission for.

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About two years.

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Quentin uh I'm coming from australia. I've also been on the arts commission.

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About two years now, uh animal immigrants committee.

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This is my first year in the arts, commission.

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Karen uh karen hallett rob, I guess this is starting my second year.

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In the arts, commission, elizabeth hi, I'm elizabeth I've been on the arts.

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Commission for about two years essence: hi.

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Essence, I just joined this year right before.

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A lockdown and valeria.

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um Hi, hello, I'm valeria. This is my first year.

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And I'm apologizing for the noise here with my neighbor.

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No worries did I miss any commissioners before we go on to members of the public.

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Elliot's here elliot joined us okay, because I keep having to.

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Scroll back and forth, elliott.

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No, we just lost elliot, oh he's, having audio issues.

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Okay, all right sean. If you can guide our members of the public, because I.

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Think, since you're sharing your screen, I kind of lost yeah. So.

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Just members of the public we we have a few today and there we have a.

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uh An agenda that I've shared but um if, let's maybe start with nichelle.

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And then we'll jump around from there. um You all just want to introduce.

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Yourselves to the commission hi michelle whitney today, I am.

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Representing the banneker center, the banneker community center advisory.

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Council so many words in other capacities. I.

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Serve as the chair for the monroe county, women's commission.

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And also on the board of directors, as a fellow for the monroe county.

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And bloomington community foundation. Thank you.

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Hey michelle, I just read the same stuff. You just wrote on the slack channel at.

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The mill today hi, I'm so excited to have a little space.

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At the mill now I feel so official, so in that capacity I'm a small business.

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Owner I own the garden llc, which is a diversity and inclusion.

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Training consulting firm nice to meet you cool, see you around the.

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uh Let's say liz clayfi: you want to introduce yourself real, quick.

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Hi I'm elizabeth claffy. I am a professor of photography.

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At indiana university- and I'm so excited to be here.

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I believe we have a couple more people from the banneker.

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uh Joy, kyra rachelle, you any of you all can take it.

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Away hi, um I'm jaquita or joy.

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I don't really have a preference, so um I'm here representing the.

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Banneka community center as well, um I am an administrator at iu. I'm part of the.

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Media school, the black film center archive to be exact, and I do.

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A number of other things in the community um so.

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I'm happy to be here and help represent the bf.

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uh The blender care community center.

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Hi rachelle brown part of the vanakker advisory board as well.

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Just here to support and in the community I am a counselor and an artist.

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Let me unmute her real quick. Let's see, it might be a.

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Hi, can you guys hear me yes yeah, I accidentally got bumped off my.

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Reception, isn't that well, um are we just introducing ourselves.

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Correct: okay, hi: my name is kira dominique and I.

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Am a local artist, I'm a filmmaker consultant um activist and equestrian and I joined.

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Today, because I'm very interested to find out more about.

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The artist in the city of bloomington and what all.

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Is going on and how I can participate and be more of an active member of the.

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Town, poland, commission, thank you fantastic. um I think I saw.

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Elliot jump back in.

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And we lost him again: tyler.

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Hi I'm tyler miles, I'm a graduate student at indiana university. Getting my.

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Degree in arts, administration and public affairs- and I am the arts fellow for.

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Great did we miss anybody besides sean I can elliot here, I am I'm having some.

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Crazy audio issues with my laptop I'm jumping off my phone.

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Sorry about that no worries, I'm glad you can make it.

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Sean, do you want to introduce yourself or anybody? Oh yes, everybody.

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Hi everyone, I'm sean starwitz, I'm the city or assistant director.

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For the arts and I'm the staff liaison for this wonderful bunch of people.

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So um yeah take it away, briny all right! Well,.

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Before we get into the juicy part of the meeting, we have a couple.

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Of uh housekeeping and we'll start with the minutes from last.

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From july, did you all have a chance to review.

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The minutes that were shared to you with you by sean.

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Do we motion to approve the minutes or do we have changes.

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Emotions are perfect minutes.

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Okay, we've got a second and the bet.

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Okay, we've got a second any notes, comments, changes.

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All right, let's vote to approve the minutes. We do need a verbal agreement.

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From everybody so I'll start down my screen here, rachel.

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Yes, quentin.

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Yes, sam, yes, karen.

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Yes, yes, nick. Yes, essence.

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Yes, elizabeth, yes, valeria! Yes did. I.

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Miss any commissioners from providing a vote.

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uh Elliott, yes, okay! Sorry about that elliot! I don't see.

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Your picture and yeah no problem keeps bumping you to the.

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Very end: yeah! That's because yeah, I'm I'm working on it no worries.

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All right uh minutes are approved. We move on to.

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The financial report from sean yeah financials, no change, uh there's.

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Been uh we in the 402, which is the leftover one.

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Percent funds, as you see here, we have 61 0635.

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And then, in the former municipal or the arts commission operation funds, which is.

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The leftover postcard funds we have 3961.

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So no changes from month to month this this go around.

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Great any questions for sean at this point.

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Going once going twice all right now, let's uh move on to two fantastic.

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Presentations that we have today and I'll let sean guide us through those, um since he organized them yeah. Well I mean I.

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This is really banneker advisory council, so I'll kind of hand it off to.

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uh Michelle to kind of walk us through, but you all have had access to this file.

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And I know that eric pearson was here: oh there's eric yeah. Sorry, we skipped.

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Him on public comment, I'm so sorry um who's, the staff liaison for the.

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Banneker uh community center, as you all know, we.

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Have a great the arts commission has a great partnership with the banneker center just with the blacky brown arts festival.

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A variety of different kind of programming, so this is the proposal.

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To do a black lives matter, project on elm street and as well as somewhere.

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Else, downtown, and also possibly in partnership with.

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Enough is enough on iu's campus and I'll really hand it over to michelle to kind of talk about the project and the origin of.

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Where it started from and uh we'll go from there and just have.

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A great conversation, thank you, sean.

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So I am one of many members here today representing the banneker community.

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Center, so I'm going to invite my fellow council members to fill in the gaps for.

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Me it's likely that I'll miss something or not explain something accurately so.

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Please help me um through this experience, so in a.

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Special meeting on july 15 2020, the banneker community center.

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Advisory council voted to recommend the creation of two.

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Black lives matter, murals in bloomington, indiana.

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The first of which we want it to be located on elm street.

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We recognize this effort as something that is both political and communal and.

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As a council, we commit to holding ourselves our.

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Community and our leaders accountable for addressing racial and social justice and social inequity in bloomington.

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A firm commitment to the black lives matter, mural.

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Is an outward expression in recognition of one of the largest civil rights.

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Movements in the us history, but we know that this act of good faith.

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Cannot stand alone and it shouldn't stand alone, so we're imploring.

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Our city leaders to establish points of accountability.

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That citizens can and should expect to hold.

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We call for the racial justice task force.

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To review policies and programs, statements of no tolerance for hate.

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And strategic allocation of resources into black and brown businesses.

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And neighborhoods, we must say that this statement reflects the opinion of the.

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Banneker community center advisory council.

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And it does not necessarily represent the view of the city of bloomington.

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Although we do hope that they stand alongside us,.

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They've been great partners so far, um so we'll talk a little bit.

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About where, where we are and where we're going a.

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Little bit of background before I pass it off to joy, um joy and I actually started these initial conversations with eric pearson.

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Who has been a champion of this work from the beginning with eric's help? We.

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Were able to convene a small working group that did include.

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Sean uh chatoyamas from the city, kai freeman,.

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From um black student union at indiana university.

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And a host of other people um on the call.

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One thing that I do want to make clear about this proposal.

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Is that we're specifically pitching the idea.

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Of two black lives matter, murals, one being created around elm street.

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And another in a more political position, such as downtown bloomington,.

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We are not and have not been um working with.

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Enough is enough to create uh the mural that happens on campus or on jordan.

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Avenue but we are interested in supporting their efforts.

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um But we have, that is not a part of this proposal, so I wanted to make that.

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Clear because I know there are several conversations happening in the community about black lives matter murals, but this time I'll pass it.

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Off to joy, to kind of highlight the vote, um the.

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Design concept and then we'll open it up for questions. Joy, yes and I apologize before I was.

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Rushing into this meeting um thanks michelle, you actually.

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Have explained um the first part so perfectly.

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um And my share my thanks as well to eric and everyone who has been a part of.

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This thus far, but with the two, the first being elm.

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Street we are really looking for that, one to be more artistically.

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Sound as far as uh with black artists um and really soliciting for those.

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um Individuals to do their uh creative design and that one.

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We're hoping that that's a colorful, amazing mural that happens by the.

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Banneker community center and really and truly.

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That was one that we wanted to. You know definitely start with, but.

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Again, the conversation also, um you know, talked about the downtown mural, which.

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um The location is still to be determined.

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um Since the downtown mural would be a more high traffic area, we would.

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Solicit the paint for um you know like that.

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The bright, yellow, high traffic paint- and I believe sean mentioned there- were.

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A couple of other colors, but um but something more high.

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Traffic um for for that area, I think.

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um You know with the council and speaking on behalf of myself and the.

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Council, we would love to see both murals happen.

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um Very close in proximity of time simply because we don't want it to seem.

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Or suggest that we are only wanting the mural by.

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The the benefit community center and then.

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Some type of you know conflict arise in between that time, with the downtown.

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We want to make sure that the community knows that they're all um they're tied.

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Into each other- um and I I also share her sentiments.

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With wanting to support the one on campus.

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However, knowing that there's some different dynamics that have to um take place for that, so we are.

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Strictly um you know at this time presenting this.

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Proposal for the city, um the city, streets, elm, street and.

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Somewhere downtown, I don't know if I covered everything.

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I've been in multiple meetings today. That was great joy. Thank you, so so much.

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I know that we have other members of the banneker council on.

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This call as well, so I would love to hear their voices um and then also to have eric speak to kind of the process that we've.

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Already been navigating the board that we've already pitched to.

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And then anything you would like to share from the logistical components.

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Yeah, I can go ahead and uh jump into that and then, if rachelle or somebody.

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Else wants to make a comment from the council. um That would be awesome, so I'm eric pearson, I'm the program facility.

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Coordinator at banneker um first, you know I.

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Definitely want to highlight the entire advisory council.

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And joy and michelle obviously, who spearheaded this for their efforts.

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Since I've been here for five years as a bloomington resident.

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Who played basketball at banneker and then found myself in.

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This position um for the last five years. I think this is always what we have.

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Trended to and wanted to become, we wanted to have a group of.

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Of residents that um care passionately about our mission come together and.

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Solve creatively some of the issues that we see in our community and have honest conversations, and so I.

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Personally, am thankful for those uh conversations and I couldn't be more.

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Excited about this opportunity, um obviously this is quite the process.

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uh This is the first time that we've brought forward.

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A recommendation um as an advisory council since I've been here but beyond.

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That this is the first time that we've really pursued street murals, um so you know naturally there's going.

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To be some some back and forth on what exactly we have to do.

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We have narrowed on um with sean's guidance kind of a.

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A four-step process of approvals that started with the park board.

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um In in july or uh yeah, I think july 28th at that meeting uh they voted.

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For their support of this project, and obviously is before.

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You today, but then it'll, move on to the city council as a resolution and the board of public works. So um the reason why uh that process is.

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In place is kind of two-fold one, there's some um you know state and federal uh codes that we have.

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To follow um to make sure that it's it's it's.

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Official, um but also we want to make sure that.

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This mural is poised to be here for years to come.

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We want to make sure that it can be taken care of and preserved by, the.

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Community that it's meant to serve, and so I think.

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That's it's frustrating um the guy through that process.

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Sometimes uh I can definitely echo that, um and I think we want to make sure.

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That we handle ourselves and communicate as city employees throughout this.

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Process so that we encourage other community members and other.

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Commissions and councils to come forward with issues like this as well. We want to.

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Hear voices from the black community and we want to be a resource for them and to make sure that.

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We open those lines of communication and make it easier for other people.

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um To come forward as well, because uh you know working with the city of.

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Bloomington on this uh means that we have to follow some protocols, but we hope we hope that we can be transparent with what those are.

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And use it as a blueprint for future involvement with the community.

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um As far as uh you know, some some more logistics, I think sean may have.

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Mentioned um that you know with the blacky brown arts festival money that is currently sort of idle. That.

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Might be a really good resource to support the local artists and the.

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Project as a whole for this year, and I can say that it's our goal for the.

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Years to come that the city has funding that.

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Works to preserve the murals and compensates the artists.

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For different things that they're going to be doing, I know that the the street.

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Is elm street in particular, is set to be.

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Paved in two years, however, um it's our goal that this this mural is.

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Constantly um kind of rededicated each year.

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At the black hebron arts festival, but also at an annual summer block party.

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That we have at banneker that kind of culminates our summer camp. So those are.

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Two things that I would I would mention as well: we do have an advisory council meeting at banneker.

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Coming up next week, where we're going to be diving into.

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The second location and having that conversation as a group as well.

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As um you know, showcasing the submissions of black artists that we've.

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Received so far, it's important that the advisory council.

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Have that opportunity to continue those conversations, and we.

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Look forward to that. um You know from a banneker perspective.

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uh Obviously um you know this has a special place in.

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My heart, uh this project and this facility and.

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The opportunity to um take on this project and see it come.

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To fruition and see how it could translate into.

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Constructive conversations that take place in our facility.

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To further the cause of justice, racial justice and social justice in our.

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Community, I'm really I'm really looking forward to that. um Obviously, you know once once cobit um moves on.

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I think you know and even before then you know banneker should house those.

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Conversations banneker is home to the black community.

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We work to preserve that feeling every single day and so having this.

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Mural in front of our building would be a nice segue to continue those.

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Conversations inside our walls um and be that place for the black.

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Community, I think um you know any time you're able.

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To work with people as passionate like the advisory council, it's a real blessing and uh we're fortunate to be in front of you here.

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Today and hopefully we can continue this process and moving forward.

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Thank you eric one final thought um that I have you. You highlighted something.

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That's really important, so we understand that there's a risk associated with this.

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Design, we know that it could potentially be vandalized. We've talked about that from the beginning.

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And so because we are partnering with the city of bloomington, our expectation.

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Is that the city continues to fund the re.

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Design of it, okay, um so if it is vandalized, we don't want that to be the.

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End of the mural, we would like to see a commitment to keep to maintain the upkeep. um The other thing is: this is also why.

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We're pitching this not just as lip service. We don't just want this to be.

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A painting that goes up in the city and and that's it. This is why we're asking.

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That points of accountability come with this and not.

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Just for our leaders, but for community members as well, so I thank you all for hearing us eric. You explained that.

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So well the process, the bureaucracy, the longevity of this process, so thank you.

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For that um and now at this time those are all of my remarks, but I open.

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Up to anyone from the banneker advisory council that would.

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Like to share remarks yes well, this is yourself um that was.

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All perfect, I really appreciate everything and I thank you all for the time and support I'm really looking forward to this.

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Okay at that time, I think that's all we got does anyone from the arts, commission.

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Have questions for us.

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uh I have a quick question uh in the show you sort of really touched on this.

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My question was about the potential for vandalism, uh and so I.

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Understand that you are working with the city to potentially sort of repair and.

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The advent that there is some sort of vandalism- but I'm wondering- is there anything uh that can be done, preemptively to sort.

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Of like avoid this, I don't know if there are like different types of.

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Paints or different type of materials that might uh be less easy to sort of uh destroy, as I'm wondering if I don't.

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Know I don't know what that would look like or like if there's some sort of maybe coating, that will make it easier to potentially wash off.

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uh Some sort of spray paint or vandalism instead of just thinking about.

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Are there other things that might could be done in the.

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Actual sort of construction of the pieces that might deter some of this.

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Instead of necessarily having to think about, I mean I love that that you all are thinking about uh what this would look like over time.

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But I'm thinking about like uh is there anything that we might could do preemptively to avoid some of this or to help.

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In uh in the instance that someone does decide to do something.

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uh To the to the uh to the murals that you're thinking about.

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There I will just jump in and say there are graffiti abatement.

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Sealants that we could potentially use- I don't know.

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If the city's used them in the past, but it's something I'm familiar with from.

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Doing public art commissions, you can't use them in the street, though.

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That's the problem so typically a sacrificial coat.

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If it was on the side of a building, it'd be a different conversation.

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What what ends up happening? Because of some of the bureaucracy that was.

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Mentioned both by michelle and eric because it's in the street.

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There's some very strict guidelines in terms of what we have to abide by and.

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And essentially the high traffic yield paint has silica in it.

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And you can't mix in silica with a graffiti coating.

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So the question, though I mean, I think, one of the things that.

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um Comes up in this process, which is meaning that this really has to come.

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From the community and by coming from the community, maybe there's.

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Another set of watchful eyes over the work right and we've seen other.

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Communities that have obviously fallen victim to defacement and.

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Vandalism in very painful and traumatic and terroristic ways.

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I think this would be a testament to bloomington to step up and kind of.

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Have you know community around elm street.

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And wherever the downtown location uh make sure that that doesn't happen.

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So, unfortunately, because it's in a street.

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Some of the safety parameters are a little bit uh different in terms of what.

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We can do to prepare um the the material or the.

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Coating or the paint but we're looking into a variety of other options and what other communities have done as well.

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Yeah, if I could add to that real quick, um I know.

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The banneker center in the near west side neighborhood, has a very special.

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Place in a lot of people's hearts, particularly in.

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The black community, given the historic nature of this neighborhood.

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And I think you know, hopefully, if we do this the right way.

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And we encourage their involvement and give them opportunity.

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To lead this effort with the city taking ownership.

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That the like sean said there will be watchful eyes, protecting it.

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Because it is important to do so, um but I definitely think that.

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The conversations are ongoing on um what the city and.

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What our roles are and preserving it and making sure that, if.

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That happens that we're prepared to act swiftly.

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To bring back the integrity of the mural as quick as possible,.

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There was one more thing that I did fail to mention. We are hoping to.

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Invite the community, you know definitely around elm street.

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You know, even with the artists um of course, socially distanced.

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um But then the downtown location, we were also hoping to.

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Invite the community to actually help um you know, participate.

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um In some ways with the mural, so hopefully.

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You know it will really be. um You know a moment.

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um You know of togetherness and unity as well as um something that everyone.

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Will really take pride in and um you know have in.

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Thank you, sam, go ahead. Can I we were um when we talked about this last time.

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Rachel and I well and everyone just wanted to be very transparent- that.

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It was going to be resurfaced in two years and it sounds like you guys already know that, of course,.

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um But I thought when I heard that I thought about like.

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Inlaying like tiles or something like that, but that sounds like it might be.

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Difficult in the street, but just like quentin, if we use.

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Different materials that were more easily washed, could we inlay.

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Something in in round two just an idea.

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Yeah, I think that's something that we want to make uh pretty clear that I.

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Think, with the the black he run, arts festival, which obviously we're disappointed, couldn't take place this year, because I.

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Think last year it really grew. It grew into.

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Something really special, um but I think, as that continues to evolve and.

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And we've been doing the banneker block party in our summer camp for.

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You know over 15 years, so I think, there's there's. Naturally at least two.

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Events um in warmer weather months, where we can.

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Constantly rededicate this with a community at large, and so I think that's.

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Something that we're definitely committed to to seeing through and.

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um I would be as as somebody who works and and.

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Parks, my vehicle and city vehicles on elm street in front of the building.

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I will tell you I will be thrilled to have it uh paved.

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But I'm also, uh you know confident that, after it is paved that we can continue.

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This mural well, it sounds like you're taking the.

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You know two-year mark more as a ongoing challenge and.

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A positive outcome than you know something negative to consider any other.

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Questions or comments from commissioners.

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Nick yeah, I was just curious to talk a little bit more about.

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uh Maintenance, um you know and and sort of.

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Ultimately, I guess who is responsible in terms of cost for the for the.

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Maintenance of this and then you know, obviously we all hope.

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This does not happen, but were it to, you know, be graffitied or.

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Defaced or or what have you um you know.

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Aside from funding like who, who is physically responsible for the.

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Maintenance and sort of cleaning it up you know I guess like is is that is, is the idea that we would um you know, sort of go back to the original.

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Artists, um you know, would that be the banneker.

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Would we want to form you know some sort of you know community.

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Committee or something like that to sort of be on deck for maintenance um yeah, I'm just just curious to hear a.

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Little bit more about that yeah, that's something we're still.

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Working through in terms of uh so traditionally like a traditional.

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Partnership um in terms of something coming from the parks department, it's.

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It's shared kind of maintenance costs between our department, so esd the arts, commission and.

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Parks right, so we would have to like negotiate where.

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Those kind of like um we have a maintenance fund for public.

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Art, that's in our collection. I think that's part of the reason why this would come through why the process of going to the bloomington arts.

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Commission was, if it's accepted into the public art commission, then we would have uh it's accepted into our public art and.

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Then therefore, you know it's in the city's art collection. So therefore, it'd be still a shared cost between the parks department.

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And um the the esd or the city arts budget, I think moving.

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Forward nick, that's a really good point about kind of a community advisory group in terms of the the future. The longevity.

L

To get to something like what sam was just mentioning, which.

L

uh You know the mosaic option is not out of the question in two years.

L

By any means, but that would be a different kind of cost right and so.

L

There could be a potential opportunity for us to, as an art commission make that recommendation.

L

Potentially partner, you know, do a more community-wide fundraising campaign or.

L

I mean, I think, in two years, when we cross that road there's a lot of different ways it can go and what the community would want right and, and mainly what the banneker advisory council would want in terms of.

L

The um for that specific mural, um so it kind.

L

Of is the short of it. Is it's a split, departmental cost, depending on um who like where it sits.

L

Where, like everybody, thinks of everything as um and it's really confusing right for members of the public, where.

L

There's this, it is part of the city, but like is it on the b line? Is it in a.

L

Street because then it just like the jurisdictional boundaries of departments are so confusing.

L

So part of the reason why coming to the art commission is really important.

L

And calling it public art which it is, is that then we would.

L

Have some pretty uh you know, we would build that relationship with the artist.

L

um You know we would, um you know when we repair works. Artists have first right of.

L

Refusal uh in terms of like, let's say something.

L

Fades over time, we ask them first. If they still live here. If they can't make the repairs, then we work with them to find uh somebody who else can make those repairs on their.

L

Behalf with their permission, part of the reason I think um and eric.

L

Correct me, part of the. I think our initial idea is to have the contract for two years because of the repaving would allow us.

L

To open the call up again to cast a wider net, bring in new.

L

Or emerging artists to participate or michelle.

L

Or joy can chime in on that too. That's kind of the I think.

L

The kind of linchpin coming for two years down the road from.

L

From now, in terms of the future opportunity, after it gets repaved.

M

Yeah, thank you, sean and not to be the dead horse here, but one thing I.

M

Do want to make sure it's very clear. Nick is when you ask about who's the.

M

Advisory group, it is the banneker center's advisory.

M

Council project, so that is the advisory group.

M

I think our our council has shown a dedication to community and strategic.

M

Partnerships, so we obviously would keep the conversation open.

M

With many entities, but when you look for who's, the group.

M

It is the banneker center's advisory council.

R

Yeah and I think in terms of the the adaptation.

R

You know in two years or what it looks like I mean I.

R

It's something that you know we're going to have a have a conversation with as an.

R

Advisory council and and we'll initiate with them, because.

R

From my seat, I think I think, there's an opportunity.

R

um That you know this continually evolves with emerging local black.

R

Artists, I think that, and and in two years when.

R

It's repaved, um you know we may not want to put it up.

R

Just as it was before, maybe we can rededicate it in a new style.

R

So I think it's a living and breathing thing um and that's one of the benefits.

R

Of the project is we're all committed to to it being that way and continuing to.

R

Evolve over time to highlight the black community and the.

R

Black artists, who help make it possible.

J

I have a question um and please forgive me if this was touched on.

J

Earlier in the presentation, um but I heard that there was a possibility.

J

Of partnering, with enough is enough, um was the bloomington.

J

Chapter of black lives matter um invited to partner as well. um Did you.

J

Guys hear from them.

M

Yeah, I can speak to that. That's a great question so.

M

uh To be clear, we're not partnered with enough is enough, and we're also.

M

Not partnered with um the working group black lives matter here in bloomington.

M

Part of that is because this black lives matter mural, is not going through the.

M

Actual sanctioned organization, we know that there's some bureaucracy around the establishment of the local chapter.

M

Here and we don't want to uncan and unearth any of that.

M

So formally, as far as bringing forward the proposal.

M

We're not partnered with enough is enough or the black lives matter, working.

M

Group, however, as joy mentioned, when we talked.

M

About um the design and that community.

M

Involvement piece they are on our list of strategic.

M

Invitations to invite them to whether it's the unveiling or the design or even the concept of it, so they are.

M

Partners that we're considering but they're, not um they're, not a part of.

M

The initial proposal, if that makes sense, thank you good question.

B

Any other questions or comments.

B

Scroll here all right, I think that's it. That is a lot of information.

B

For us to digest, I really appreciate that, um but at the same time it seems it was thorough enough that.

B

Questions are limited. I will urge commissioners.

B

As always, you know without these kinds of projects, if something pops to mind.

B

Within 24 hours or a week, make sure you uh reach out and get those answers quite.

B

um Based on on anything that might come up later and at another day, uh sean are you.

B

Good to close this part of the pres of the meeting.

L

Yeah, we should probably vote to support it to move forward, so we can start to so.

L

If, if the arts commission is, is ready to do that, that would be. I.

L

Think helpful to move the project forward um in terms of of uh getting it on the board of public works.

L

And moving it forward against the tight timeline, so, okay, so a motion to vote on the approval of this project.

B

I uh okay, we have a second from the bet. Now I I have a question: okay, okay,.

G

So the approval of of this project, which is one.

G

Mural or the two murals and it's one project sponsored by the.

G

Banneker communities that are advisory committee or.

G

Exactly what is that that we're voting for.

L

Michelle you, you can go ahead yeah. So um in the proposal, our central.

M

Recommendation is that a street mural with the statement.

M

Black lives matter be created along elm street in front of the banneker center.

M

That is our number one priority for construction.

M

With a second mural to follow closely in a more public location such as the.

M

Downtown area, that is what we're bringing forward.

M

To vote on today.

B

Is that clear enough about so it was so basically it's under.

G

Our guidelines, it's a question.

G

um I'm just hearing what essence questions and and.

G

Some of the others, um so it's just that they.

G

The bac is supporting the proposition of two.

G

Murals one to be at the banneker, the other in an indeterminate place. Yes,.

G

Yes, yes, okay, and that we are working with.

G

The banner group so to speak, to have an appropriate.

L

Yes, yes, okay, you got it. You guys we're sporting all.

A

G

Okay got it. Thank you. Okay, any other questions. Before moving on to.

B

B

Okay, so valeria.

B

Yes, essence: yes, elizabeth, yes,.

B

Karen, yes, nick yes, elliot.

B

Yes, rachel, yes, sam, yes, quentin.

B

Yes, I say yes, did I miss anybody? I said yes, but.

B

There we go okay, we approve this project to move forward and just keep us posted.

B

And let us know what you need along the way and where we can be of any assistance. Thank you for the opportunity we.

R

Appreciate it, thank you guys so much. Thank you. You're welcome.

B

As we move down on the agenda, we have elizabeth claffey to share the.

B

Iu mfa, photography, project.

L

This is uh your time. Okay, I never know if I'm supposed to unmute.

N

Myself or I'm gonna be unmuted, so I just went for it.

N

First, I just want to thank you guys so much for including me and this evening.

N

I'm really excited to get your feedback. um I want to tell you a little bit about.

N

A project that I hope to present to my mfa, students, this.

N

Semester as an assignment um every semester, we organize.

N

The we have, you know, part our mondays, our critique, which is driven.

N

By their own personal research, and then we have our seminar, which is generally on wednesdays and that's.

N

Primarily, driven by um an assignment that I construct.

N

And that they respond to, and so in the past one of the things that I've done.

N

Is just a volunteer project assignment in which.

N

They are in charge of identifying an organization.

N

In bloomington or within driving distance of bloomington.

N

That they can volunteer um that they can give 15 hours to.

N

In the first half of the semester and then the second half of the semester, they spend their time making work and reflection of that.

N

Experience um and in the past it's been a very wide.

N

Open project- and it I I actually didn't let them use.

N

Their photographic or artistic skills, as part of that volunteer work.

N

So they really had to just get out of their comfort zone and engage with the.

N

Community, not behind the camera um and.

N

This semester, I'm really sorry if you guys.

N

My kids are right here and they're screaming so.

N

If you hear that in the background I apologize.

N

But there's like no amount of headphones that can.

N

Get rid of the sounds um so this semester and this might be hindered.

N

A little bit due to the pandemic, but what I was hoping is that we could further engage with their photographic.

N

Skills in order to volunteer within the community um really trying to connect a little bit more. You know we.

N

Tend to stay in the gown area and I'd like to.

N

Work on that and bridging that, so that our students can really honor the.

N

People in their community that are supporting their studies and their.

N

Artwork, you know throughout their graduate.

N

Degree they're so focused and and rightfully so, they're often.

N

Focused on presenting work within a gallery space, which is this kind of like high art um exclusive space that you know artwork.

N

Often lives, but I'm hoping that this semester.

N

Especially due to our circumstances, they can really bring that out into the community. So what I'm hoping they can do.

N

Is as a collective identify an organization or a couple of.

N

Organizations that they can partner with in order to either collect stories from.

N

Citizens in in bloomington, or it could be a portrait.

N

A portrait assignment in which they use their.

N

Camera to to make images of people within the community.

N

And then they identify different buildings in which they could project.

N

Those images so to kind of bring visibility to the.

N

Community, in a way, that's really celebratory um so.

N

They get to celebrate their effort and their contribution and they.

N

Also create an opportunity for citizens of bloomington to see.

N

Themselves, reflected in in a way that I think can be really.

N

Empowering through artwork, um so that's that's where I.

N

You know the idea of it would be that they take up the project on from the.

N

Beginning and they would be responsible for.

N

Identifying um these locations and the organizations that they could.

N

Work with and then they would also be responsible for presenting.

N

um A proposal to you um and moving forward with that that kind.

N

Of public project, um one of the main inspirations for the.

N

Assignment is for freedoms, the billboard project.

N

That um highlights politically driven art.

N

For kind of for civic and and art engagement.

N

So that's what I'm thinking and I would love to hear.

N

Feedback, I have not given an assignment like this thus far.

N

um And so I see the possibility for many challenges. I would certainly be hands-on.

N

And working with the students, but I would love to hear suggestions or.

N

Questions problems that you think might pop up.

N

So that's that's my pitch. Thank you. So much yeah.

L

Thank you. That's great, oh, and just to give a little bit of background.

L

For the other commissioners too, you know we've been really excited.

L

Like from the lucas brown partnership that we had with so ed last year, with.

L

The tree sculpture, so uh you know, since I've moved here.

L

I've been really adamant on partnerships with soad and I've.

L

Been such a fan of liz's work so for for her to come to us and and think about.

L

Her mfa program, I think, is a really unique opportunity.

L

It's also pushed some of the conversations that we have been wanting to have in terms of temporary public art.

L

You know new genres, new disciplines, you know using photography.

L

I think you know a valid criticism of all arts commission right at any kind of.

L

City levels, it's all visual art and it's all mainly public art, so.

L

You know thinking through those new strategies and building those partnerships between iu mfa candidates, so that, hopefully they'll.

L

Stick around after they graduate so I'll. Let others take it away.

B

All right, let's open it to questions comments, some feedback.

B

Sam and then essence uh good, just in a nutshell, with it's basically.

E

You want to take photos of like people in the community and then project it on a building.

N

Yeah I mean I, you know I also I don't want to.

N

Kind of boil it down to these will be portraits of people in the community.

N

Because I'm not sure you know how what avenue.

N

The artists want to take in terms they might collect stories, they might conduct.

N

Interviews and then make work in reaction to.

N

The people that they engage with so I I wouldn't.

N

I'm not giving them a portrait assignment essentially.

N

I'm but I am putting the responsibility of honoring bloomington citizens in.

N

In their hands, um so it could be portraits.

N

um They could also do things like they could decide to put the camera.

N

In in the hands of somebody else, you know and then they pick up the work.

N

Of processing the images and preparing and.

N

Like they end up doing the labor of projection and um kind of celebration, but maybe they're.

N

Actually, highlighting and coaching other people to make images from their own.

N

Perspective, so it is really like we will be having.

N

We'll spend the first couple of weeks of the semester.

N

Like feeling out what they, what most makes them excited.

N

And then um and then I'll help coach them through.

N

Putting together a proposal.

J

My immediate reaction is excitement for this project. It sounds really cool.

J

And I really like the idea of us um um trying this out.

J

And um taking advantage of that temporary art.

J

um Medium so, like that's, that's really cool to me.

J

And then I really like the idea of you having the students.

J

Present to us at the bac so that they can have that experience.

J

And put it on their cv or whatever, but also just know how to do this um go through this.

J

Process for their uh like future parts of.

J

Their careers, I think it's a great idea. Thank you so much. That is certainly an.

N

Objective, I really want them to get comfortable.

N

Presenting their work and also asking for support.

N

For their work, um I think that that's such a.

N

Critical aspect of their education- and I too, and all about like how can we.

N

Build their resume while also building their community.

N

You know so that they're strong and ready for a job market when they come.

N

Out on the other side- and I think that's also really like.

N

That's an important aspect of getting out of the gallery because you know like working within a gallery. Space is really.

N

Only one way of operating, um as we all know,.

N

And that landscape is changing, um so thank you so much for the rachel and.

N

D

um Yeah, I think this is, I agree with essence. This is awesome.

D

um I was thinking about, like other sorry, um other potential partnerships.

D

And things that might be worth considering um and.

D

The first thing that I thought of um that complements photos really well.

D

Is writing right so, like I don't know, if partnering with women writing for a.

D

Change or um new leaf new life, they do writing.

D

Workshops within the prison uh system, if there's, if.

D

There's some sort of group that um any spoken word.

D

Poetry, whatever that could kind of go alongside the images, I think that could.

D

Be really interesting um and I love that it's a you're.

D

Thinking of a temporary project, so it's not necessarily anything that.

D

That's permanent and that the the viewing of the images.

D

Are temporary on the buildings or whatever ends up happening, but um I.

D

Think be really cool if there's a way that something could be documented in order to continue living- and I don't know if.

D

You've thought of any ways to do that. If so I'd love to hear about it.

N

Sorry I mean that is I. I love that question.

N

um Because, yes, I certainly think that it will be important to consider how it.

N

Continues it can continue living right, because this will be a body.

N

Of work- um and I think it will be not only- I.

N

Hope it will be an event like. I hope that they're creating an event- and I love that you're talking about spoken word and the idea of.

N

Performance being kind of enter an interactive.

N

Evening or moment of celebration that can be definitely ex.

N

Beyond the photographic work or the artwork, that's projected.

N

um And then immediately my mind goes to you know like one of their.

N

Responsibilities will be coming up with a theme, and I think, like once, you have a.

N

Theme that you're moving towards there's so.

N

Many different possibilities for, like, I think about zines the last.

N

Time I gave this assignment. My students had to make a zine out of the work that.

N

They did in reaction to volunteering, so they.

N

Could either give the zines away or donate them or sell them in order to.

N

Like you know, recoup their money that they spent making the work um so immediately, I think about.

N

Small batch publications, I think about even just a website um once you have.

N

A body of images and a kind of and the documentation of these things I.

N

Think they can really be shared well. So thank you for asking that I'll.

N

Definitely include that, like in in one of the questions my.

N

Assignments tend to be based around a series of questions, as opposed to a.

N

Series of answers, so how will you how you make sure that this.

N

Lives on will definitely be in there. Thank you.

N

Nick yeah I I was, I was curious as far as um you know, that.

C

Sort of event- and you know the projection phase.

C

Is is it gonna, be part of the student's assignment to find.

C

The locations to do those projections and to like.

C

Partner with business owners or property owners or whatever else or is that.

C

Something that they're potentially going to need help.

C

With that's a great question so traditionally.

N

We have done things like alternative exhibitions.

N

Where they've been responsible for finding a space.

N

Working with a real estate agent or walking around town until they find.

N

Something available and then securing insurance and things.

N

Like that, for that space, in this case, I would.

N

They would be responsible, for I mean one of the things that I hope that they're.

N

Going to do through this is get to know, bloomington and really ask them so like. Why does this.

N

Image in particular need to be projected onto this building, in particular,.

N

You know so it might be that the first thing we do.

N

Is identify a place um you know and then from there we take.

N

That as like, what's the theme that built that's built around this place and what.

N

Are the images that are not seen in this space yet um like.

N

What's missing from or what can we contribute? You know to.

N

The space in particular, so they would be responsible for.

N

Identifying that and then figuring out who they need to contact.

N

In order to make that happen, and I I will work closely with them,.

N

Like, of course, you know, um and my colleague, james nakagawa, who some of you.

N

Might know has also been in bloomington now for.

N

Almost 20 years and has worked extensively with the.

N

Community, in terms of these alternative exhibitions that they've done.

N

So, yes, you know we will work with them and mentor them, but they are.

N

They are in charge of all the all the bits were you involved in.

D

The um exhibition that james did the in end of or about a year ago, I.

D

Guess at this point, I think, with the end of fall semester where they were in one of the abandoned or not abandoned, but uh empty spaces.

D

Right now so that was our those were our mfa.

N

Students, but he was he so we switch off so he yeah. He teaches the mfa's in the.

N

Fall- and I do this spring so that was his- that was kind of his.

N

Baby and I I go to critiques throughout the time and.

N

And we work together, but that's that that was under his umbrella.

D

But it's the it's the same sort of uh yeah concept,.

D

Okay, that was yeah exactly I loved that exhibit oh cool yeah. I know.

N

It was really I'll, let him know and nick I don't want to speak on your.

L

Behalf, um I mean liz. One thing to consider too, I think is.

L

Maybe shoring up and leaning on the arts commission to kind of have that.

L

Conversation about locations and and nick I don't know, if that's what you.

L

Were getting at per se, but um I think I mean one thing that.

L

Would you know working with students? That is a challenge I think, especially.

L

Is you know, thinking about the role of site specificity and what that means, and and um not necessarily constraining them.

L

Just saying like we have these sites that we want to see activated but seeing what is discovered but then providing.

L

You know feedback and maybe using the art commission as an informal critique.

L

Early on in the project, to say, oh, that's a great site, but actually it's.

L

Not really ideal, because of x- and here you should consider this.

L

Right so I don't know if that's what you were getting at, but that's just one.

L

Thing to consider I oh sorry yeah. I love that and.

N

I actually hope I think you guys meet once a month so like your next meeting.

N

Will be mid-september, so I'm hoping that by that.

N

Time um like that, that will be the first time that they join you um and so that they're really.

N

They will have a very rough proposal by then I hope and- and that will be.

N

The beginning of their kind of conversation with you.

N

um Seeking your advice and approval um so yeah, I definitely. I think that.

N

That's really important. Thank you, yeah. The next meeting is september 4th.

B

B

All right, I do want to be somewhat aware of.

B

Time here it's 6 p.m. So any other comments or questions regarding this.

B

B

All right, I love that you are pushing the students to really kind of.

B

Own all parts and not learn just the artistic.

B

Side, but you know all of the logistical parts of it. I think that many artists.

B

Out there and I think it's something that we struggle with as we're reviewing.

B

Proposals- and things like that is you'll, find great art, but not.

B

Necessarily, you know the logistical side to back it.

B

Up so I'm glad that you're exposing them to.

B

To all of those hard questions and challenges that come with with public.

B

Art well, thank you so much and thank you all.

N

For your support and response and questions, I really appreciate your time.

N

Absolutely we're here, for you, um sean thanks, liz, appreciate it and feel free.

B

To jump off because I know you got family family stuff going on so they're.

N

Still screaming thanks guys all right.

B

Sean, if you can give us an update on public art,.

B

Along with nick um starting with the other.

B

Black lives matter murals in yeah. Well I mean the big one. You know.

L

Obviously that that was a big conversation about the street mural. So thank you all for helping the banner career advisory.

L

Council, I mean we're always big fans of when community members bring us projects similar to the janeway, collective and.

L

Those kinds of things so um that was a, I think, a really important.

L

Step in the approval process- and you know kind of kind of figuring, it.

L

Out and I I will be working closely with eric um on kind of safety and precaution, measures, that's why we have to go to the.

L

Board of public works and and I've been doing, a lot of research in.

L

Terms of what we can and can't do, and all that kind of stuff.

L

I have gotten an initial go ahead from.

L

Bike garage to move forward on the call for the people's park mural.

L

I don't know if you all noticed too a historical marker was put in place.

L

On july 31st, uh it's it's uh right! Next to the right! Next to the.

L

Mural, so uh I think there is an opportunity to consider you know what the relationship between the mural and the marker is um and then also I don't know nick if you.

L

Want to just highlight, uh and or I mean maybe I can do this.

L

You know we did get some very negative feedback about how we've.

L

Handled the black lives matter, addition to the.

L

People's park mural and its defacement of trans and lgbtq sigils in the community, so to speak.

L

Because in the middle of that mural, there's lg there's an um the pride.

L

Flag as well as the trans flag, um so we've been trying to negotiate a.

L

Variety of different things- and I think one of the frameworks that we've discussed was just making sure that we're.

L

Re applying that kind of.

L

Artwork into the new mural opportunity- um nick, I don't know if I didn't cover.

L

It well enough, no that's great, but I think the only thing I wanted just.

C

Clarify is: is that feedback came anonymously right, yeah yeah, so that I think that's that's the unfortunate part. Is we don't.

C

Have the ability to like follow up directly with a citizen and.

C

You know get an idea of exactly how they might like to see. You know this.

C

Incorporated a new design or how we might be able to.

C

You know represent those, um you know those those symbols of.

C

Communities elsewhere in in bloomington so um but yeah, that's.

C

I think that was good good feedback to get.

C

um Do you want to should we just dive into.

C

Trades garage now yeah and I'm totally a jerk and did not upload the finalists.

L

Into the folder, so I am so sorry y'all all right while.

B

You're digging those up just um and the people's park mural. Do we.

B

Now that you've initiated that conversation, do we have a timeline that.

B

We're looking at uh well, the project can't get started.

L

Until august 31st, um so I'm I'm waiting to get like.

L

Kind of I'm I was concerned about the timing of the.

L

The I didn't want to take away from the announcement of the chamber.

L

And the historical marker uh and then also what's going on with the.

L

Banneker advisory council blm mural, so I think it's a timing issue.

L

uh And in conversation with that, I I would say that I'd like to get it out.

L

The door in the next by the end of august.

L

So that's kind of still on track, um but I.

L

If, if anybody has any concerns about that or if that's too soon,.

L

I mean it's still going to be a process in which we got to select the artist there's going to be community meetings around the mural there's going to be a back and forth, so I I'm I'm open if that seems to be too soon. I.

L

Think some of the concerns that were brought up in that you know you report.

L

Was like, why are we not maybe publicly talking about that, and maybe the rfq.

L

Would highlight some of the uh the conversations that we want to have in.

L

The community, through the arts, commission so anyhow, that's that yeah yeah I'd be curious to see you.

B

Know timeliness we we agreed, we didn't want.

B

To rush into it, which is fine, um but we also do have.

B

Winter, coming up and weather to be considered.

B

So you know it either happens before that.

B

Or not until spring, in reality, because you're not going to put anybody out to.

B

Paint yeah a very large mural for.

B

A couple weeks out there in the winter wow and then also too, I have to be real.

L

I don't know uh you know technically, after august 31st, the property owners have every right to do whatever they want.

L

With what's on the wall right, so I I think we're also trying to.

L

Negotiate a variety of different interests so that it's not just return.

L

To gray and then there's a conversation around that, so I think I think if we have something moving in.

L

And maybe starting to get underway in the fall and but also, I think, artists.

L

Are hungry right now for work frankly, um and I think that's an.

L

Important conversation, we need to have about hiring artists, putting artists to work. Those kinds of things too.

B

Yeah, I would rather see it happen this year.

B

Than be dragged out until the spring.

B

Anybody else any other questions. I I have a comment. I'm wondering about.

J

uh Cohesion um with the street.

J

Murals, um have we talked to the banneker advisory council about.

J

This project, or is there a possibility to use like the same artist or something.

J

Or like like, have a group of artists that work on all three or.

J

Like you, just I'm wondering about that yeah michelle.

L

And joy and and the rest of the advisory council are aware, we're going to do a.

L

People's park mural, they don't they. There was um um at the.

L

Parks board meeting last week or a couple weeks ago, eric had presented the downtown one being in front of people's park and.

L

That was like a non-starter because they felt like it was too close to.

L

The mural that was happening at people's park and the marker that was going.

L

So there is some cohesion in conversation. I think we they.

L

Have received, I think, seven submissions so far.

L

um From from black artists explicitly, um so I think there's some conversation.

L

And there's only three: you know the idea is to hire three artists for that.

L

That one on elm street, so there's going to be some people that we can kind of.

L

Maybe hire out or at least solicit to the rfq.

L

As well as or for this people's park mural as well, so I think there is.

L

That's kind of our role, that's why I wanted to have this partnership with the.

L

Bcac and the bac so that we could have this.

L

Kind of communal-wide kind of conversation, as we.

L

Think about where these things are placed.

B

All right, let's go on to trades.

L

Nick you want to walk me through I'll start with esteban and then I'll I'll.

L

Bring up anna and maria and then end with aurora how's that yeah.

C

Yeah, that sounds great, um so you know we thanks everyone who.

C

Helped with this review, this is one of the smoother reviews. I've been a part of um this, this first from esteban garcia.

C

um He is uh indiana based. um He has submitted previously.

C

For for one of our rfqs, so it's to see him return.

C

Basically, this um concept is is built off of uh incan.

C

Iconography um and it involves these sort of physical.

C

Reliefs with um like tile work with.

C

Led light treatments, and you know, I think, that the the bit of.

C

Feedback um that we've gone in with, I think there.

C

Are two big points um you know one was consideration about the.

C

um Iconography um and whether there's an opportunity to possibly collaborate with.

C

um Iu first nations, or um you know someone else uh to.

C

Perhaps represent iconography of um you know our local indigenous history.

C

Here in indiana, um as well as.

C

Rachel was good to flag that there's an uh sean. I don't know if you want to.

C

Scroll to the sort of like full vertical yeah that.

C

That right, yep with the the color blocking.

C

There's a garage in nashville with basically like.

C

Color blocked light installations, and so we provided that to him as well.

C

um Just so, we can avoid mimicking that concept too directly.

C

um But this was, this was probably um the if we were forced to choose one.

C

um From the pool that we were starting with.

C

This was probably the crowd favorite um from our review committee.

C

um Yeah uh any questions about this one as.

C

We're scrolling through it.

G

Yeah or anything commissioners want to add yeah a little bit.

G

Do you did you get to the point where you gave.

G

Ernesto feedback, from the comments that we had.

G

Yes- and he did yeah, I've spoken with all three finalists.

L

Everybody- and I would be that's what I would be curious about what their.

G

What what their comments were, because one of the things with.

G

Ernesto is that we had talked about the um possibly being more inclusive to.

G

The uh to the trade, the trades district itself and the.

G

um You know whether it's go having gone from the showers to computer, etcetera,.

G

Etcetera yeah everybody took the feedback really.

L

Well um and they're yeah so we'll see I'll, be I'm.

L

Sending out hopefully contracts this week to each finalist, so we should get the final updates by the end of august.

L

For our next meeting in september.

E

Okay, um could you just run what were the.

E

Materials for his and like what would it look like during the day, uh it's uh he's he's pursuing a variety of.

L

Different materials, I think it's aluminum, I believe, but it's these.

L

Kind of like cut out aluminum patterns that are put.

L

In place and then so, it's kind of got a monotone.

L

Kind of look at first and then at night it would lit through the leds.

L

I gave them that feedback as well about concern for daytime nighttime, so there.

L

Might be a way to incorporate some lighting into the structure of.

L

Itself so that maybe it's backlit during the day.

L

And then at night it's a different kind of lighting system that switches so.

L

There could be a couple, different approaches, but um I think when I spoke to him last, I think it was.

L

Looking at aluminum as a as a manufacturing.

L

Process, so that is, that is slightly different than.

C

What he put in the proposal, like do you know, has that evolved.

L

uh It might have been from the conversations with the fabricators got.

C

It okay yeah, I mean it's still kind of a.

L

Moving target we'll see what he comes in aluminum might be through the roof. Next.

L

Week with whatever you know what I mean like right, who knows I mean, I think, a lot of the times with uh these kind of material choices.

L

They'll evolve based off what the cost, what is possible for the cost.

L

Right yeah, because it's it was, it was fairly ambitious. You know, like the.

C

The proposal basically was that there would be five murals one per level.

C

um And there would be, the tiles would be roughly.

C

uh One foot by one foot 256 per floor, which would equal like 1200 tiles,.

C

Thereabouts- um and so he was talking about initially.

C

Like wood, acrylic or corian as materials, you know, but I think.

C

That with that scale, obviously it's it's.

C

Gonna be pretty dependent upon cost um to figure out how that'll be realized.

C

um So the uh this next one that shawn has.

C

Up um this is anna and maria me. It's a.

C

A sister duo um both who have or are currently studying.

C

With iu, so I think what part of what we were excited about with.

C

This one aside from the the concept itself.

C

Is that you know it's uh two young female artists who are you.

C

Know sort of starting to emerge from you know the.

C

uh You know academic side of of learning the craft to.

C

Entering into the the public space, um and so you know, even though I think.

C

Esteban was maybe an early favorite. You know, I think we we've. We kind of.

C

Latched on to the idea of bringing in a couple other finalists, so that we could.

C

Go through this process, hey, we might be surprised and find out.

C

That um you know one of these other finalists uh comes in with a concept that that you know blows estebans out of the water.

C

Right like we, you know we might be really impressed, but if nothing else I think, going through the process and giving that them that learning experience um we felt would be valuable.

C

So the this sean scrolling through some of.

C

Their previous work, but their concept was sort of around um this.

C

Almost like dna, like like double helix sort of stairwell,.

C

um Concept and um yeah, so those are some sketches and then.

C

Sean, if you want to scroll back towards the bottom, I mean. Obviously this is a digital, rendering that's sort of floating in space, which makes it a little bit difficult to visualize how it would work. You know, but.

C

I think that um you know having something that would.

C

That would play vertically you know with with the um stairs in the stairwell.

C

Was interesting um you know, I think that the.

C

One big question we had for them was about safety.

C

You know if you have basically a structural staircase attached to real.

C

Staircase, um how do you prevent uh small children.

C

And drunk college students um from deciding that artistic stares.

C

Are real stairs right, so um you know there that'll be.

C

You know a bit of an uh structural design challenge to make sure that it's.

C

C

Yeah! um That's that one any questions about that or any other notes from.

C

E

That one's pretty hard to picture is that all going to be within glass.

E

Anyway, we'll find out I've I've, given them that feedback to kind of work.

L

Through safety standards, so we'll we'll find out in four weeks on.

L

What they come up with yeah, because we did not request like a.

B

Hashed out proposal, they just alluded to it and added a.

B

Visual for reference and for the rest of the commission, it.

L

Was we really focused on the letter of intent right and some of the previous works, so it was really important.

L

You know people doing their homework. Those kinds of things.

L

You know, connection to indiana was also important. A couple other kind of.

L

Frameworks, you know, ability to see scale and work.

L

And then you know also: we've been really trying to.

L

Want to support artists, new and emerging, and so they kind of.

L

Hit that mark really well um so yeah and then yeah and then.

C

This this this proposal from uh jeremiah and aurora.

C

um Jeremiah, maybe is living here. Currently I don't know if we got clarity.

C

On that, but he's originally from bloomington, um so there's another local connection, um I believe aurora is based in new york.

C

um But the the concept was sort of around.

C

um Like a a series of thought bubbles um that that would.

C

um Hang within the space um and there would be a yeah so recycled.

C

Acrylic, I think we liked the sustainability aspect of that. um You know they're pretty large.

C

Approximately two meters across um you know, there's there's physical depth.

C

To them as well, um you know there was also a lighting.

C

Element- um and I think the idea was that.

C

There'd be sort of a a dimming effect um that would almost follow people as they.

C

Would sort of move up and down the stairwell? I think the the best analog I could come up with is, um if you've been to the indianapolis.

C

Airport, like the the sky bridge, um with sort of the.

C

You know the like the lights, that sort of go above you as you move along.

C

It's sort of a more a calmer vertical version of this.

C

um And so yeah, we, I think there are a lot of.

C

There's a lot in their previous work. um You know that that you know.

C

Made us feel pretty good about their ability to execute this.

C

um You know again, I think the sustainability was an interesting element. You know, I think that, um with with the.

C

Use of light and color, you know, there's there's potential for.

C

There to be a little bit of a of a through line um to.

C

um The stefan reese piece um that'll that'll, be in outside in the trades.

C

District, um you know and again you know.

C

Thought: bubbles, innovation, trades, district tech park.

C

um You know we felt that their letter of intent was.

C

um Was pretty compelling um anyone want to add to that one.

C

Sorry, I'm not trying to rush your neck. Just now. We have.

B

13 minutes left no worries, yeah and half the agenda so.

C

Yeah, so so, basically you know, I think I think we feel really good about.

C

um These three finalists that we ended up on.

C

You know I I sean, I don't know if we commuted a communicated, a firm deadline.

C

But but I know that um you gave them roughly a month right to.

C

Get back yeah so we're not as much. I talked with josh for the garage for.

L

Running electrical, so we should be good there.

L

uh I don't want to kind of cut into your time y'all's time anymore, so.

L

Incorporating it into the friday, the first friday meeting for the public art.

L

Planning committee extending that out as a time to review, maybe set up some.

L

Interviews or discuss that we still haven't decided whether we.

L

Should make maybe a public comment period out of this, which might be good like a one week, you know activate the community engage in some community feedback and.

L

Also, you know an opportunity for some of the other commissioners that aren't on.

L

The public art committee to be a part of the kind of final review.

L

Review stage too, so we can, we can kind of talk, talk about that, be.

F

Online via email moving forward as we get closer to that.

B

Any other questions for sean regarding this project or nick.

B

All right, let's go through the other public art projects,.

B

Yeah, I should roughly yeah switch yard park. I should have drawings by the end.

L

Of this week, um fourth street uh we signed the.

L

Contract set it off and then the trade sculpture.

L

uh uh Moving forward, we've had a little bit of a redesign, but it's nothing.

L

That's taking away um from the sculpture at all so I'll.

L

Keep it brief with that, so all right.

B

Any questions regarding public art in general.

B

We're good sounds good, um quentin and nick worked very hard on.

B

A letter to city council and mayor john hamilton.

B

Regarding the waldron center, I know that there's four people who have signed off.

B

Of the letter, but I need to make sure that everybody.

B

Has had a chance to read it sign it or provide feedback to clinton.

B

Because it is officially now just sitting in our google drive going nowhere.

B

Any questions comments um anybody saying: okay, I haven't seen it.

B

But I will in the next 24 hours yeah. That's me I'll. Do that and sam.

C

And I will just clarify that quentin worked very hard on that letter.

C

uh And and my notes were minimal in the end.

G

I just want to say I thought the letter was terrific and.

G

You know all you have to do is just find your little name at the bottom. It's very.

G

Quick and then that's a light of fire, but the.

L

Sooner the better getting that letter out by the way, y'all.

A

Okay, maybe we could give like a deadline if.

F

Yes, yeah like if it's, if it's not there, we're gonna move forward.

B

We're going to send the letter on monday.

B

So if you have any comments or feedback, you know.

B

Make sure you do it during this week so that quentin can.

B

Have a couple days to make it perfect and then we will go ahead and send it on.

B

Monday, anybody have an objection to that.

H

Brian, uh this is karen, I don't have an objection, but somehow this has gotten.

H

Past me, can you tell tell me again where to find this.

H

Letter, I will, I will email it to you right now: okay,.

B

Thank you that way, there's no confusion, um and so.

B

Karen since you're unmuted, let's jump over to the strategic plan, just a quick update and what you need.

B

From commissioners, uh okay, well I apologize to the.

H

People on the uh public, art planning subcommittee, because they've heard.

H

Just before, but um we have gotten to a point over the last.

H

Week or two where I think that the plan is.

H

You know 95 there and we're ready to share it with the uh full.

H

Commission he, I think that the work on this started.

H

More than a year ago, and then we, you know, we got new members.

H

And and other things happened, um but we've.

H

I think we're at a point where um it's where we want to be our group, but I.

H

Want to make sure that everybody gets to see it um and uh to uh sign off on it as well. I think.

H

Brainy had suggested, maybe we give what a week or two.

H

To go ahead and read this and then sign off on it. uh We did.

H

uh Choose to extend the length of time uh from three years to five years.

H

Because, actually, we've almost gone a year.

H

uh Working on it so uh and and we we tried to make it such that we uh can.

H

Be nimble, um you know we have goals, but we can.

H

Determine how we fulfill those goals, depending on what might happen, we have a.

H

Lot of unknowns coming up, um so if you can go.

H

In and look at the document um you know.

H

Either give brainy or uh rachel, or I.

H

uh Feedback- or you know, put it in in the comments and uh and or sign off on it. We.

H

Would really appreciate it and just keep in mind as you're.

B

Reviewing this that we have had more in-depth conversations about you know.

B

How we would go about doing any of these objectives, but this is that.

B

Sort of generic open to the public guiding document that shares what it is.

B

That we're trying to do not so much you know how.

B

What are the steps that we're going to take in order to apply each of these goals? um Karen and I, like, I, read it- a little.

E

Earlier today- and I liked um especially the page two where I think.

E

The bet was talking about, like where's, wanted to see some more meat on the.

E

Bones- and I think you did a good job of that on that page too,.

E

With all the the guide connect, those couple of period.

E

Things I like that.

E

So I would, I would sign off on it. Okay, any questions from anybody before you go.

B

And read the document fresh.

B

All right, you all know what you need to do.

B

uh Sean and rachel, um I and I think, more sean, because you.

B

Had a meeting about this today regarding the next phase of.

B

Grants yeah so uh one thing to keep in mind.

L

uh I sent this email out earlier today. Please.

L

Share far and wide, because this is cares, act funding that is through.

L

Indiana destination development, but as being helped.

L

By the indiana arts commission there you have to be a non-profit.

L

Or tied to a city or part of the destination marketing organization group.

L

In the state, but this is going to be the last of kind.

L

Of state funding for probably this year unless there's.

L

Another cares app that comes into play, so all your festival groups, all your.

L

Friends that are involved in whatever non-profits this. This will be it it's between 4, 500 and 50 000.

L

That groups will be eligible for so I encourage them to get on the webinar.

L

By the 17th, uh in terms of where we are for grants,.

L

Phase two, I think rachel presented on this at the last meeting about breaking up. So you know in april we were able to do.

L

This kind of emergency, covid kind of turnaround grant this.

L

Phase is more of a sustaining grant, so you know.

L

Having groups think about fall, programming.

L

Collaborations those kinds of things sustaining them for this moment.

L

The fall semester, however, that shakes out or the fall in general.

L

And then because this was distributed by the buea.

L

This year, using the funds this year, and so also.

L

Jumping into like a recovery grant in december.

L

So it'll be kind of a similar grant application to what we did in april.

L

With some continuing data that we're going to try to collect.

L

To be in line with the recovery forward, bloomington and stimulus money.

L

Projects that the city's involved in um but the buea was supportive.

L

Of releasing the funds, so what we're going to do.

L

That's a little bit different is preserve.

L

Somewhere between 10 and 15 000 for venues specifically, so that's.

L

That and that's a for-profit kind of blurred line that the buea would.

L

Traditionally, support so thinking about groups like the.

L

Bluebird backdoor bishop those kind of cultural assets.

L

That have been totally taking an e and have been really.

L

Concerned about covid and not opening their spaces due to the concern of.

L

Spreading covets, so we want to be supportive and understand that they.

L

They matter some of the feedback we've gotten from the chamber is that groups are a little hesitant to take on more loans.

L

Right now, the city has a loan program that still has loans out there.

L

So, for even a little grand as 2500 to a business.

L

Will be quite generous, I think, and it's and.

L

The the answer also is no it's not enough. I know that.

L

But moving forward, it can helpfully signal.

L

uh Both to other communities, other cities and in the state.

L

To consider supporting venues and what they mean to our community.

L

So that's that's kind of an update uh rachel. I don't know if you have anything.

L

Else to add- or you want to discuss, um but that's kind of the conversation I.

L

Had at noon today, uh yeah I'll just say quickly like we.

D

Have a draft um of the application, as sean mentioned.

D

It it uh kind of refers to the grant application we had before. We.

D

Took in the feedback we received to try and make sure it's not super redundant, but if anyone would like.

D

To um take a look at it, we can send it around.

D

um It yeah I mean, based on the iutd grant that tourism.

D

Grant? Where we're looking at timelines so that it.

D

Doesn't conflict with that, but hoping to give folks a bit more time.

D

um With it, and then I don't know bryony or sean, if you guys want to quickly just.

D

Talk about the grants meeting that happened with constituents last week.

L

Yeah I'd be happy to uh yeah, because I thought that was a really.

D

Great meeting just to hear how everybody was like doing stuff.

L

Yeah and uh yeah, so we kind of just had we called all the grant recipients in.

L

To kind of touch base just to see what the concerns were.

L

Moving forward in the fall where everybody was.

L

I also encouraged them to send. Thank you, letters to the.

L

Bloomington urban enterprise association, the city council in the office of the.

L

Mayor as we're going into recovery strategies moving forward uh so.

L

It was a really important call. We got some interesting feedback about turnaround times and you know working with boards if they're.

L

A small staff and so we're trying to be concerned not to cannibalize too much.

L

Between this potential indiana destination, grant.

L

And what we want to get money out the door right now to kind of create but uh to put tyler on blast and who did an.

L

Incredible job of analyzing all 26 applicants.

L

And thinking about collaborative frameworks, tyler did an amazing.

L

Presentation and kind of a different kind of thread to think.

L

About how groups could not only collaborate via.

L

Discipline but digital barriers, uh community barriers, those kinds of.

L

Things and tyler really hit it out of the park and I think.

L

Gave a gave a good field guide to arts organizations to kind of step up.

L

To the challenge, so I think organizations were super.

D

Impressed by that people seemed like their eyes had opened.

D

To resource sharing and what a collaboration is so nice job yep yeah? No, not not only did it open.

B

Their eyes, it's like we've, been hearing this wishful thinking.

B

All all of a sudden, it could be a reality um and a very.

B

Tangible reality and we we went ahead and you know made a.

B

Pdf of all of the information that tyler put together and shared that with them, so that there's.

B

They can take their time and try to find where they have an overlap with somebody.

B

Else and start to really share in those resources.

B

Okay, we are at time we're at time yeah. um So I think this unless there's.

B

Something really crucial about the space needs assessment. Can we put that.

B

For the next meeting for most of my staff report, we can we can just skip. I.

L

Do have one important announcement to make.

L

Next week, wednesday night, my our department, some of your funding.

L

Is up at city council? It would be really great to rally as.

L

Many troops and members of the public to be there.

L

We have included sixty thousand dollars as part of the stimulus.

L

Bloomington recovery forward for art, specific grants.

L

So that would be uh so next year. The idea would be.

L

To have 100 000 instead of 40 000, to distribute out of the bac for.

L

Recovery and kind of hovid responsive grants so that.

L

Request will be heard next week, among some other.

L

Kind of arts conversations uh the waldron and some of.

L

Those things so it'd be really helpful. If we could have some members from the bac who'd be willing to speak up and speak.

L

About the importance of arts funding moving forward, but also, if you have connections and relationships with other people, that.

L

Want to sit through a city council budget hearing meeting, I strongly encourage it. I think we're gonna go on around 7 30.

L

So what day uh wednesday, the um let me see where we are.

L

August, so that would be wednesday. The 19th.

L

Right, yeah sean can I request that you put that on the bac.

B

Calendar with logging information so that everybody has.

B

Quick access to the details, yep: does anybody have any questions for.

B

Sean regarding that particular meeting.

B

All right, speaking of meetings, I just wanted to know.

B

If anybody made it to the hospital redevelopment meeting.

B

Last week, all right, I know that they present at.

B

Several greenways and things like that, so I will go ahead and finish watching that presentation and.

B

Try and give you an update for the next meeting.

B

um And with that, let's just jump real quick to commissioner us.

B

Announcements, if anybody has anything.

B

No commissioner announcements, I guess we don't have that many events and things.

B

Going on um actually uh just real quick.

D

Midway announced um our summit lineup we're doing a summit throughout the week.

D

As well as the festival at the end of september, early october,.

D

It's all virtual, um but we have some really amazing.

D

uh People that are in the music industry that are on it. So if you know anyone.

D

That's interested in learning, specifically about like the business side of music. We have panels on.

D

Distribution, uh anr, audio engineering um and a few others photography.

D

And videography and all sorts of stuff and.

D

We have people from all over the country that are in some really amazing.

D

Positions within the industry, I had a variety of labels. It's not just secretly.

D

Folks, so join. If you will.

B

Sounds good all right, um I think that's it reminder. There's a.

B

Grants meeting on the 21st and a public art meeting on the 4th.

B

Most likely extended to 2 hours and we will be sending the walden letter on.

B

Monday, look at the strategic plan. Anything else.

B

Nope all right: let's go ahead and adjourn this meeting.

B

Barely here, four minutes late and uh with a few.

B

Agenda items missing, but we will see you all.

B

In one month, if not sooner, thanks y'all good to see you have a good week.

A