City of Bloomington, Indiana Arts Commission, 14 Oct 2020

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Let's get this meeting started, it's 504 welcome everybody. um I think the first.

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Thing that we will do well, let's see who I don't have.

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Full video or names some of these are phone numbers, so I'm not sure.

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Who is with us besides, the commissioners who have video.

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If you can all take a minute just to introduce yourself, so we can locate you.

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Or sean, do you know who's with us? uh No, actually, I don't so. I think, let's.

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See we have ben jacob, uh I'm asking these people to unmute.

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Themselves, helen's here.

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Tyler um but I'm not sure who's calling in from iu and it might be a.

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Journalism class, the um the 812 number in there is me.

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My internet's a little touchy so in case I need to switch to audio that's. Why.

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It's there perfect liz is here.

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All right, yeah ben, do you want to introduce yourself? Oh there's, ben.

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There we go some more videos.

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And it doesn't seem like we can hear you even though you're unmuted.

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There you are there, you are yeah, yeah, hey.

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My name is ben jacob. I am a uh doctor of music composition.

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Student and um I met sean- I think this past.

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February in the innovation competition here at indiana university.

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And um so yeah he was recently in a class on entrepreneurship.

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That I was attending and uh mentioned that we could attend. So I.

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Hope it's okay, that I attend absolutely thanks!.

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We love other members of the public ben. Thank you for joining us.

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Thank you all right. Well with not many things else,.

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Hey sorry, uh aj o'reilly, community member, I guess.

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um Starting in so starting a uh art supply store in town, so I figured.

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Getting uh deeper rooted with the arts community would be.

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Not a bad idea, so I decided to attend this meeting so.

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Yeah fantastic well, hopefully, at the end, you can give us a little bit more.

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Information about what your plans are, so that we can start.

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To spread the word sure anybody else.

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No, we have helen and tyler who are pseudo staff.

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So they're they're here in marnina, so we're good to get the roll.

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All right: well, you all got the packet from sean there's two rounds of minutes.

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That we need to go through um the first one is august.

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Do you have those sean yeah, I'm bringing them up? Sorry, my.

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Internet is trash today, let's see so, hopefully you all had a chance to.

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Review these yeah and special thanks to marnina for.

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Doing the due diligence on this and getting these updated so.

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um Is there any changes to the august minutes or any edits.

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All right, I see a lot of heads saying no, what about september and then we can. We.

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Can approve these have a motion if nobody has any edits for september.

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Any edits for september, more, not okay, let's move to a proof.

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Both august and september minutes.

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Any seconds second,.

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All right, that's! We approve the minutes.

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Everybody's really quiet, everybody's gonna go around and say their name and.

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Say aye so brian, why don't you do a roll call? Why don't you call on people.

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Yes, sam, yes nick, yes,.

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Elliot yes, karen, yes, essence. Yes,.

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Rachel, yes, and I think that's it. Yes, oh elizabeth. Sorry, I'm over here.

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Elizabeth, yes, I was going by reading the names and you're.

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Or showing up as an email instead of names.

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I can't get it to change for some reason: I'm using my husband's computer and it.

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That's not even my email, I'm sorry, I can't get it to turn off.

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No worries yep. I was going by the chat list.

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Versus pictures all right, the next thing on the agenda, I.

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Have to switch screens here, real, quick, uh the financials sean.

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No changes from year uh from month to month.

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So you we are at so uh for the public members of the public that are tuned in.

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In the municipal arts fund, which is our leftover, our.

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Unused monies from our one percent ordinance. We have 61.

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635 and 66 cents and then from the arts commission operating fund. This is.

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Leftover spending that we normally do for.

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Sponsorship opportunities- or um you know, community awards with ivy.

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Tech we've used that money before for that, um it's out of what we used to make revenue off of postcards from.

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And that is at 3961 and 65 cents.

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Any questions regarding the financials.

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All right: let's go ahead and move on to the first.

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um Item on the agenda with guests, the mfa, photography project.

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We'd love to get an update yeah, I don't know if they are actually joining in.

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I never heard back from all right, so we might.

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Want to just let me double check, I'm just scrolling through.

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Yeah, I thought they were coming back to this meeting, but maybe maybe not.

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Do you have an update phone? I I don't have an update.

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From them, okay, well then, let's move on to the public art.

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Projects, uh starting with the trades district.

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And then just moving on down the list nick and sean, please.

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uh Yeah I mean we, um we skipped our committee meeting.

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uh This month, as we didn't have anything super actionable.

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um And people put a lot of time into um this trades garage review and so.

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You know sean, uh let finalists know uh the decision that we made.

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And uh esteban sent us a nice email, um acknowledging that he was excited to.

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Work with us, you know, but aside from that, I'm gonna toss it to sean uh to give updates on timelines and.

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Things like that, just where we're at yeah, so we have.

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You know uh moved to uh put this project under contract with.

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Esteban garcia, based on the recommendations by the public art planning committee, um uh we were pretty excited about all the.

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Finalists, it was a really tough decision. um uh You.

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Know in terms of equity and inclusion, just to recap: we had um some emerging artists that we threw into the mix.

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um And uh are very excited about their potential and working in the.

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In the community at some level, and then we also had another.

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Local tie-in group, uh jeremy, jeremy, typend.

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Who splits his time between here and new york.

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uh And aurora robson, which was another collaborative group,.

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We felt that their proposal was um very strong but suited itself to a.

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Better location, like the convention center, something a little more interactive, a little more.

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uh Public-Facing, not that a garage stairwell.

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Isn't but we were touched by esteban's kind of collaborative approach, his own.

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Story around this uh and the potential for community input.

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For a project which we haven't, um we actually haven't uh as long as I've.

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Been with the commission, we've done murals that have involved community members, but we actually haven't done a public art.

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Like um commissioned a piece that would, it would have some collaborative.

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Elements to it, so this is his proposal, design, which is.

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Kind of um these individual tiles that will be.

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Cnc'd and milled, uh with a variety of different materials, uh and so there's a couple different workshops he'll be able.

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To host throughout the community to help design this, so this could be, you know, and it's not just um you know,.

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Specifically he's reached out to iu first nations, um but this could also be with fairview elementary.

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Or I mean there's, there's there's kind of no stopping the.

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um Level of engagement that this kind of has and esteban being based.

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Out of purdue uh is uh means that there's.

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Some stronger uh tie-ins, but we thought that this.

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Was a beautiful piece for the the site and.

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In general, just an interesting uh conversation for us to consider as a.

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Public art piece um before I move on just on general updates on that. Is there any uh questions based off of this proposal or.

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The trades district garage itself- and many of you all probably have noticed.

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It's coming together very fast if you haven't.

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Been on 10th street there, it's it's it's! Coming together. I saw sam.

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On his motorcycle there almost yesterday, I think yesterday morning.

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So um we are working uh on getting them and.

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What the other thing that was also interesting is esteban, has partnered.

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With another fabricator, that is on our rfi fabrication list that we haven't.

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Worked with before uh weber group, which is based out of.

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Charleston indiana so once again lots of regional money.

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Being spent hiring local hiring within the state.

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um 100, basically on this project, which is.

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Which is really exciting and really important? I think um and was a consideration for the public art panel. um But uh do we have any comments.

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Questions I can't nick you're you're. I see you and you're waving your hands yeah. um No, I think I think the only other.

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Comment, I was going to make, so I also think that um you know where we ended up selecting esteban. I think this is a good.

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um Good sort of success story and that he had.

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Submitted for you know, a previous rfq had gone through a process had.

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Interviewed with us, um you know, and and so I think this is a.

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I don't know it's a good demonstration of how the process can work.

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You know um somebody coming back to us, someone engaging.

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Taking feedback from us and uh you know, ended up being the right fit for a.

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Commission um so so kind of related to that I was curious. um You know not just esteban, but how did the other finalists.

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uh Take feedback that you provided to them.

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uh I haven't, uh I haven't followed, followed through.

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Like having phone calls for them, obviously jeremiah.

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And aurora, I think understood that uh that you know they they. You know aurora.

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Was the finalist for another call, you know uh jumping into our call. I.

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I think they kind of understood the game. I'm really excited to request the studio visit when it's safe to do that with.

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Jeremiah and and kind of tie them in together and it's the same thing with esteban. You know esteban applied to the trades.

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District plaza design and um didn't make it through, but we kind of.

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Courted him through other other kind of facets and kept him posted.

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He's also involved with a collaborative group with the paper pavilion show, which.

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I think also helped informed his practice and kind of get some experience, but this is his first significant.

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And large scale public art, installation outside of lafayette.

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Which is really exciting for us to consider, and then anna and maria.

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Maria is in grad school, so just trying to align schedules and.

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To be able to give feedback to them, um which you know they have.

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Both of them uh as a collaborative duo have a lot of promise individually in.

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Their career, but um also collectively so we're pretty.

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Excited to see where, where all that goes, but I uh to be.

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Honest with the paper pavilions opening and a couple other things going on, I.

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Haven't been able to uh lock in feedback.

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um But I can move on if there's not other questions or I'm sorry did.

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Somebody speak up. I was just saying any other questions or.

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Comments regarding this before we move on to the next hard project.

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I'm seeing none so um fourth street. uh We should get some updated schematics.

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Next week, I'm really excited about that. um It's.

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It's tying uh there, as some of you all know, there.

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Was a little bit of uh concern because um our original.

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Design with that of the building was a larger footprint and then it trunk and.

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Got taller but project one is fairly confident.

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In its uh original design and original approach, so.

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We should know more next week um the trade sculpture.

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uh uh Stefan has had to redesign a little bit, so it's gonna be a little bit.

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Smaller, which is actually better for the overall.

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Feel of the trades plaza, so I should be getting those schematics.

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Here soon lucas brown has been helping carry that project to the finish line.

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Which I'm really excited about people's park is still on hold we're on.

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Negotiations with uh the property owners uh just kind of.

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Reassuring them and reevaluating our typical kind of mural agreements and.

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Just making sure everything's in order so that everybody all parties involved.

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Feel good about that and then the bcc, which is really the banneker community center, the black lives matter. Mural, is moving.

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Forward uh we are slated for october 24th for.

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Install um if you all are interested, we.

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Specifically are looking for volunteers, I believe.

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At the noon between noon and six um and banneker has really been kind of.

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Leading this effort, I know it just kind of went public, maybe today or yesterday on the volunteer, we're trying to be.

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Very s covid mind: you know mindset so mask and physical distancing. So you do.

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Have to sign up, I believe, just because of we're working with the health department on that, but we're working with three emerging.

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Artists, we're really excited about the designs.

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And I think uh it's gonna be an all-day thing.

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But uh you know once we get some more, um I believe I can send out after this.

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Meeting the link that banneker uh advisory council.

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In the community, center has kind of released in terms of the volunteer.

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But we're happy to have you any of anybody stop by we're, starting as.

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Early as 8 a.m, that will be for more of the mechanical.

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Layout of the black lives matter, it's going to be in for free chura, bold, which is pretty consistent with some of the other.

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Murals across the community, but each artist is interpreting it differently.

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And there's some community input and opportunities, so there'll be stencils.

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And we're trying to make sure that um know: abled and non-able-bodied people.

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Can be participating, um you know designing it from one to a.

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Thousand, so that any age can can contribute to the mural and.

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Being very thoughtful and considerate of that as well as you know, um you know part of the advisory council's.

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Task was um some very specific policies. I think uh we can get into this with.

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Karen's section around the strategic plan, but you know our efforts with equity and inclusion and just reminding folks of.

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What we have been doing in the past couple years, but just you know reminding folks and and sticking to.

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Some very key uh indicators about including artists of color um and.

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And just being very specific about, um you know how our calls are run.

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Making sure they're being equitable- um and I I stand by what we've been doing.

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Over the last couple years, in terms of you know, paying artists, even after the.

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Rfq phase, which a lot of cities don't so I'm just making sure we're following.

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Through with equity and inclusion and diversity efforts, so that's a lot to throw at you all any.

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Questions on that section, thank you for highlighting that briny.

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There you go all right, no questions, um I am assuming there's no other.

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Updates in like the 10th street mural and the duke.

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Building or anything like that, no uh still still inching forward on all.

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Of those trying to get a hold of property owners and.

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Drafting those kinds of things so yeah that makes sense. I just wanted to double.

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Check any questions for nick or sean regarding.

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Anything else regarding public art.

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Yeah we're moving fast today, all right. Let's move on to grants.

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uh We have a final report is that rachel or sean who's going to speak to.

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That yeah I can, I can leave that or rachel step up.

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um I I can't see her on this particular section, but this is an older.

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Report pardon, I said I'm right here, but go for it.

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Since you've already started.

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um So obviously covid has impacted area 10.

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This is one of those unique um partnerships we we saw come through our.

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Grant program uh so this is, um you know what they've.

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Been able to do up until march and then they've kind of had to reshift so they're just being very transparent about that.

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And supporting uh the events that they were able to do.

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um In terms of uh the pandemic, so, overall in terms of a staff report, I.

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Was I was pleased with how they handled this? uh You know for area 10 to even be um you know, this was the first time they.

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Came to us for a grant program like this, and we were really excited to see them.

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Especially around aging in place and equity around that and thinking about.

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Individuals that are aging in place, especially in monroe county.

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And then you know, obviously with covid the impacts on.

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The elderly community have been pretty severe so feel free to read through this.

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If you have any, um you know, questions I thought they did.

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A pretty good job of explaining, where they're coming from as and we've been flexible with, not just the bac grants.

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But the buea grants everybody we've had to be really lenient.

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um And a lot of organizations have pivoted and responded really well and.

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Really positively and we've been very pleased, both from the buea side of.

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Things and and the city staff side of things on how organizations have continued to provide arts and culture.

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Experiences during a pandemic so.

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I'm having puppy issues for a moment, they seem to be fighting um all right.

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Let's move on then for forward grants.

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Let's see so recovery forward, we uh have received 24 applications.

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um Two one has, uh as of today, withdrawn: they found funding elsewhere and felt.

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That they wanted to uh withdraw their application, so it's.

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Really 23., um we are in the process of thanks to.

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Tyler um maa has been very short on practicum.

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Experiences with the graduate students who are.

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Including a a core of reviewers from the maa.

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Program which I'm really excited to kind of give them first-hand experience, elliott and essence are representing the bac.

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Alongside some buea members and our hope is to get the review panels.

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Going this week starting friday and we'll we will.

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Present those findings to the buea next board meeting, which would be in.

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November um for the recovery forward, um so.

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I mean we're hoping to have reviews in earlier than that, but the.

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Buea has to approve, like mass, approve the the grants we would give out. We've.

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Allotted um 40 000 roughly for those.

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That funding mechanism for fall programming going into winter programming. We also carved out a little bit of funding um specifically for venues. We only had two um or I'm sorry, three.

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Venues or three organizations that would qualify as a venue.

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Apply out of, um we have six that are eligible.

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So um I'm doing a little bit of homework on on why that is, if the grant.

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Application just didn't speak to them or if or maybe they're just some are remaining silent just because of.

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Code restrictions, um so I'm doing some due process on that, um but the buea.

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Asked that we continue to slot some funding for venues just because.

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They have been uh uh tied a little tighter to coveted.

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Restrictions and have been trying to do everything safe and so.

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That's just something for us to consider. We will.

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Likely be announcing another grant round from this funding from the buea before.

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We announce the recipients of this, so that's.

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Something that we will need some bac representation on on the next panel.

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Ellie and essence are more than welcome to join.

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But it would be nice to get some fresh um reviewers in just for equity and just.

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For new lenses and new perspectives, and that funding will specifically go.

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Towards um quarter one uh 20 of 2021 funding for.

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Programming or events, those kinds of things you know just.

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Trying to shore up arts and culture groups to continue to produce, work and um and yeah. That's that's that.

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um I have not been looped in on literally any of those conversations.

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And I feel, as as the current grants chair, I should probably know.

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What's going on, can you make sure to loot me in on those.

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Things yeah. We we announced this, I mean we had.

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A meeting about this, we you were on that meeting, that we've been going with what we've announced another grant on top of the.

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Recover forward grants we have not discussed.

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Which is great, but I was not involved in any meetings for that.

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Or is this the like, the third phase that we.

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That's yeah, it's the same third yeah. It's the third okay.

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Okay, yeah something happened beyond like it being just a concept because.

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Initially, it was just a concept that we threw out in passing in a meeting, but now it sounds like there's.

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There's been discussion around it that I've been left off of.

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No, it's I mean this is still buea focused and funded.

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So this has nothing to do with us, we're just assisting.

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With the program, so this is all the buea funding that we got in april.

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That has been lined out and we are assisting with.

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This recovery forward package, so originally it was.

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Esnr and then we met um had a series of meetings we laid out that framework.

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Which was like, we called it sustain at the time.

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The buea felt like that that the messaging needed to be packaged under.

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Recovery forward, so it's all been so you have not I'm.

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Sorry that you feel like you were left out, we have not met. We have not this. This was met this. This plan was laid out at that meeting.

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You were at and then we've carried it uh as based off of the recommendations moving forward. So that's how this whole year has to shake out. So it sounds more like.

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Our involvement really is in providing reviewers.

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In participating in this versus in setting.

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Things up or creating, and it is I'm sorry for the confusion, the it was.

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Originally, we were thinking different names and all that kind of stuff, but it literally got.

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Per the mayor's request and the buea to be.

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Lumped into this whole recovery forward package that we have.

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And and that's just because we've been with city.

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Council and trying to figure out it's been very confusing and I'm sorry for.

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Everyone involved on that that um you know we have 20 20.

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Reversion money with the uea money: that's recovery forward.

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Then in 21 we have a separate package of funding. That is.

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Covid related um and so there's that now the big thing that the.

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Grants committee will be tasked with if the voting goes well tonight at city.

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Council uh we do have the budget as an increase.

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Of sixty thousand dollars for our our our typical grant program.

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Through the bac, um it's not certain that the the.

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Vote will go through tonight, um but we will have a total of a hundred.

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Thousand dollars in the 21 budget that the bac will oversee.

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Next year, so that's something to keep in mind as well.

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um It would have been great to have known that before.

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I I won't be able to make it tonight to the budget hearing, but it would have.

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Been I would have appreciated, being able to.

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Know that, um thanks for clarifying yeah I've, I've.

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Been pretty much left in the dark for the past two months, it feels like on grant stuff. So I have no idea. What's going on.

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So appreciate the overview, uh I'm I'm sorry I mean we haven't had.

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Much going on, I mean the line item. It's not there's not any.

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Voting on line items, it's a total package being passed tonight. It either.

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Does or doesn't right so the the review period you all? I.

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Think rachel and bryony spoke at the budget hearing where it was being.

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Discussed online, the line item so really this is just the whole.

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City budget packages tonight so there's not really.

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There's no really need for any member of the public to be there. It's just that.

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There's some divisiveness for some reason between city council and some some positions that are being added in.

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In city hall, uh mainly the transportation demand so.

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That's why the so, I'm sorry that I would do better about keeping in the.

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Loop, but we really haven't had much in terms of meeting or discussing this.

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Was stuff that we laid out earlier in the year based off of covid response.

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Yeah, I I'll second, that I have not had any conversations.

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In this matter- and I was actually going to.

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Say that their next meeting, which is on friday for the grants.

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Committee, that's when we should really start looping essence into what.

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The next grant cycle is going to be so that we can start creating the forms.

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And all of those documents that will be required and really launch what the bac will be independent of. If we have a hundred.

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Grand or less, I think we had talked about.

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Starting to kick off that process in october.

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Yeah and actually for what it's worth, I had a meeting with gabe.

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um Glowden, we discussed a few other potential grant scenarios.

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Based on the performing arts and venues and such.

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um But yeah we'll talk about that. A little.

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Bit more in detail um regarding the waldron.

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In a little bit, okay yeah, I think he included my.

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Proposal and his plan, but.

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All right any other questions regarding grants at this point.

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All right, let's move on to section six, the strategic plan which karen has.

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Been um shepherding the last couple months, did you all have.

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A chance to review the document in detail.

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All right, um I know that we have quentin's.

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Kind of blessing to move forward, since he cannot be here.

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But any additional comments I know: valeria you had a comment via email.

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And if you want to share it with us today,.

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um Yes, thank you. I was it's just that those two words that.

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Strike to me as our objective to guide.

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And um I don't remember which one was the other one.

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And gaiden enable I for some reason it stick to me that.

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If that is really representative of our openness to also more like a facilitate.

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Instead of assuming a position of guiding.

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um So that's just what came to my mind and I just was.

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Yes, like a connect, facilitate or another use of words, I thought guide.

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And enable was a little bit too strong and pretentious.

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Thoughts from others that can respond to malaria.

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I mean just just quickly, I think, enable and facilitate meaning.

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Almost exactly the same thing to me, uh I think.

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I don't know they're they're, probably like the closest you can get the thesaurus to each other. So I'm kind of agnostic as to which we use.

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um But I mean otherwise, I feel like it. Thank you cut out.

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uh Rachel, no, I don't have anything. Oh I I saw you on.

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Mute, that's what um anybody else.

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I mean facilitate, sounds more bureaucratic.

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um From my connotative perspective, enable sometimes has negative.

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Connotations but ability able seems right. It's also a shorter term.

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I don't know this is I'm an editor speaking right now I love to play with.

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Words, so I could talk about this all day. um I I'd like to make sure that we.

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Whatever we do about enable or facilitate.

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I still think that um the word guide it's something different, but I believe.

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That that's something that we do I mean as a commission. I think that's.

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Part of our role, so I'd like to keep that, regardless of.

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What happens to the other two.

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Yeah, I want to say that I may didn't express myself.

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My problem was more with the word guide and the neighbor that I thought I.

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Thought that one word as facilitate would include both.

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But um was just an observation: I'm fine with anything so.

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Any additional comments.

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It seems like one word or the other is okay.

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From what I gather.

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All right, so if there are no more comments, let's move to vote to approve.

A

The strategic plan for the next five years.

A

As it stands in this document, I have a question brian yeah. um I see.

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That ben jacob, in the comments.

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Has a thought or art the community members able to weigh in.

G

Sean sure yeah I mean yeah.

E

I I was just going to say, I think, facilitate, has a less.

E

Less of a hands-on connotation than enable, so I don't know what the.

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Purpose is if the intent is to be more hands-on or to.

E

Be more uh hands-off but.

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I just wanted to throw that in.

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I I love that observation personally, I'm the one who wrote the original.

A

The version that stands right now, it's to me it's about.

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Getting my hands dirty and being in there and actually.

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Participating with the community um versus.

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Making things like facilitate to me is also a little bit more bureaucratic.

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Than enabling things to happen, and it enable feels a little bit more open.

A

A

All right: well, let's move to approve the strategic plan as it stands, for the.

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Next, five years, any seconds second,.

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All right, let us vote. Let me go down the list here.

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um Elizabeth, yes, rachel.

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Yeah essence: yes, karen, yes,.

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Elliot yes, nick.

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Yeah, sam, yes, valeria, yes, and a big.

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S for me, congratulations yo. It only took a year.

C

Aaron, thank you for carrying it to the finish line, I mean this is a lot of work.

C

For you all to be doing, but you know I'm gonna hold you accountable to it. No I'm.

C

Just kidding it's very reasonable, um as staff, I think.

C

This is very in tune and very in touch. um I think it gives you all a good.

C

Lateral without being too general in terms of.

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Strategic plans right it gives you some some focus and some.

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Ability to maneuver so congratulations you all for doing.

C

A

All right so, based on this, I'm just going to pose a question that I don't.

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Need you all to answer right now, necessarily, but we do need to kind of divide and conquer.

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And especially right now that we're all pretty much divided at home.

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And we can't come together. I would love to hear.

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If there's an area of this strategic plan that you would like to.

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Focus on um moving forward independently, if you're in the public.

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Art committee or in the grants committee, I think a lot.

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Of what the strategic plan is doing is speaking to all of us and there's areas that we all have either talents or interests in so take a look at it in detail from that.

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Point of view as to I want to take on this bullet point or this area, or this is where I feel I can make a.

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Biggest difference, and let me know so that I can start to figure out.

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How to apply this strategic plan and, as we've spoken we're not going to.

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Apply it all in one month and get it over with if this is.

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A work in progress and the idea is to apply it over time.

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And grow on it, and especially given the circumstances with cobit, I think it will.

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Take us a little longer than originally intended, but I want to.

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Respect what you each want to take on as much as.

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Possible all right, um so that is that uh nick regarding.

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Plans can we put the public art master plan back on the.

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Docket and start working on that not to put you on the spot, uh yes,.

D

We absolutely can um obviously I've not really.

D

Given it much thought in the last couple months, totally backbonded it while.

D

Karen did her excellent work on this, so uh what I propose is I'll.

D

I'll find some time uh here in the next two weeks to give that a good look.

D

um And sort of rethink sort of where we left off in the process and how we might.

D

Want to pick it up and I will propose an approach ahead of our.

D

Next public art committee meeting does that.

D

Work for everybody that works for me great and also.

C

Due to nick's leadership as chair, we've had a lot of commissions.

C

Frankly, which that has is not always the case, so we've had a lot of one percent.

C

Projects which we've had to get under contract and and so the the.

C

Public art master plan, it's it's not at anybody's fault and.

C

Also, my fault is staff, just you know, rfqs and the timelines.

C

Garages, it's actually pretty magical, almost all.

C

The commissions are going to come in at the same time, so that means we're going to have a lot of ribbon cuttings, probably teed up together, which is very, very exciting, but also very.

C

um It can be very overwhelming, so sounds good yeah. No, it.

A

I I don't fault anybody in this process. It has been a.

A

Strange year between all the work that has been done.

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um And is coming in and just the fact that we're all having to.

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Juggle so many things all of a sudden, um but I just.

A

Don't want to forget about it. I want to keep things moving as much as possible.

A

Okay, I think that wraps up um any commission.

A

Items unless anybody oh wait, the okay, the waldron, comes up.

A

Yes, sean: will you talk to the paper pavilions first and then we'll give the.

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Waldron update yeah real quick, I mean it's just we're.

C

The exhibition's open we've we've had a really great um a lot of.

C

Great turnout, frankly, the virtual tour launched last week if.

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You haven't had a chance I'll, um I logged out, but I'll I'll drop.

C

It in the chat, if you haven't, had a chance to see the virtual tour I'll, be there next friday, if anybody's interested so.

C

Just trying to do one-on-one tours, we had.

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Some people from sycamore land trust there yesterday, which is really exciting.

C

To see their um interest and and involvement with the.

C

With the show which was pretty exciting and then the other big news here, I'll.

C

Introduce you all to the newest family member: um this is the the new puppy. um That's gonna be dominating my uh life.

C

For the next little while um so anyhow, that was uh that's the big.

C

Staff report um more puppies on zoom videos. Please.

C

um But we had a really good next week. We'll also have a.

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Panel discussion with three of the artists and the sycamore land trust.

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And lining up a couple other things around.

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The paper pavilion show we were featured on all in indiana last friday,.

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uh With joan joanne quinones and rachel cavate's work, and then I believe.

C

Limestone post is doing some kind of either exhibition review, um so the works.

C

Are really exciting and it's great that all the artists get.

C

All the hype for it, which is really great, so that's the paper pavilions update and then we can jump right into the waldron.

C

uh There's not a whole lot to report. We're, like I said we're waiting on city.

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Council to approve the budget, for uh you know, 21, which has allotted.

C

Funding for the waldron uh bare-bones just to.

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Try to figure out kind of the behind the scenes. Some of.

C

You all may know that cardinal baft bpp have put together a.

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Proposal the city is going to review that um you know that just came in last week, so there's no decisions been made. I.

C

Think it's important for you all as commissioners to remind folks that we.

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Are not going any particular direction and no matter what we do.

C

It's going to be a public process, so that's I'm really great.

C

Grateful that cardinal bpp baft was able to come together and leverage.

C

A variety of different support, but that doesn't solely mean we're going that direction and it doesn't mean we're not going that direction right.

C

um It's a very enticing proposal. We still have a lot of due diligence to do.

C

On the building, um but it's it's really important that.

C

The public is reassured that there's no quick, fast decision around this, so just.

C

So you know we're still doing our due diligence on that um and I believe.

C

Tonight, if the funny goes through there should be, the mayor will be announcing uh some kind of task force uh to.

C

Be involved on that or any idea of something yes.

A

I was just quieting my kid that was coming in.

A

No, but I, as you know, I tried to liaison as much as we can with arts.

A

Forwards, bloomington and the um bloomington arts alliance.

A

And through arts so gabe and the whole team behind this proposal.

A

Reached out to arts forward bloomington to get their support and with based on.

A

Their proposal, um ken buzzard, who is the president of.

A

Arts for bloomington is undisposed right now, so I.

A

Offered to help them um launch a little presentation by gabe.

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With a google form that I'll add the link into the chat right now,.

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um So that people could provide a yes, I support this. I don't.

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um Any ideas or needs that they would look for in.

A

Such a venue um so they've been getting very good feedback and if anybody said.

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No, I do not support this. They had to answer why um so it's been.

A

Interesting to see what information is coming through.

A

They've received, I believe, about 35 responses so far and they were kind of.

A

Moving this quickly because they wanted to get as much feedback before sending the proposal to the city.

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um So they're moving through with that, uh you can see the pr.

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The summary presentation he tried to make it under 10 minutes.

A

um At the at the link that I'll that I'll be providing- and I know he.

A

Mentioned earlier today that there was a conversation with rachel regarding some grant stuff so rachel. If you can speak to that possible idea,.

J

Do you want me to speak to it now or yeah? Okay,.

J

um Yeah I had like a one to two hour call with gabe.

J

And we talked, I mean this was a couple weeks ago.

J

But um discussed everything briony mentioned and everything that's in that.

J

Presentation and one of something that at least they're really.

J

Aware of with the waldron space is being aware.

J

That the buzzkirk is also a space that they.

J

Want to continue to use and so they're working on partnering with the bct.

J

And they're also really conscious of the fact that.

J

You know how the bct has their startup grants, how to make a space and.

J

Affordable for new for local performers, um individuals, not necessarily arts,.

J

Organizations that want to put on performances in.

J

Order to make that more readily available, they want to be.

J

Able to have lower um rental costs so for those that can't.

J

Necessarily afford the bct or don't get the startup grant for the.

J

Bct they'll have access hopefully to the waldron.

J

um Or even the bloomington playwrights project space, just different venues in.

J

Town and possibly partnering actually with the bct on sort of this type of general performance.

J

Depending on what our funding looks like this year uh or next year, I guess.

J

um Looking at you know, we have our operating support and we have.

J

um Our individual artist, support or project grants that individual artists.

J

Can apply to, but uh since we have so many performing.

J

Arts organizations and individuals that tend.

J

To want to present performing arts programming looking at creating.

J

Potentially, the a sort of like sub grant so having an.

J

Operating support grant and then a presenting organization grant.

J

If you will um for performance.

J

Not necessarily theater could be music, whatever.

J

And having them the individual project and and allowing that funding to be used.

J

For people to essentially subsidize rent of different.

J

Venue space in town, um so it was a just a conversation that.

J

We had obviously nothing is set in stone because it's the first time, I'm even bringing it up to you all um and it's something the grants committee has to talk about, and I mean a.

J

Lot of it is gonna depend on what happens to the waldron.

J

Space and how much funding we actually end up.

J

Having, but I think um I think it it is.

J

Potentially, an interesting role for us to play when.

J

It comes to sustaining operations within venues.

J

Especially as like rentals gonna be.

J

Really interesting in the coming years and encouraging.

J

People to program within the variety of spaces and making it affordable.

J

So um yeah yep. What what I find interesting and why I.

A

Wanted you to speak to it, too, is just the fact that we do have three.

A

Theater companies basically coming together.

A

And one is they're reaching out to the community to get more input and ideas.

A

Which I think is interesting and novel based on history and then the other is.

A

Whatever ends up happening, if we go with them, if the city chooses a different.

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Path, whatever ends up happening, the bac.

A

Should keep whoever is in charge accountable to make sure that we're.

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Representing all of the different artists that could use that space, not.

A

Just performing um you know what other uses.

A

Are for those spaces, if there's a gallery, for example, which is an.

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Important part right now making sure it meets the requirements.

A

For gallery walk and what flexibility can that space have.

A

To fulfill other needs, um and I think that that should be one.

A

Of our main roles, moving forward as we advise and.

A

Oversee, what's happening with the community involvement.

J

Yeah and I think if um anyone has a chance to actually go through that.

J

Presentation and look through the slides. I highly suggest that you do obviously, um but speaking to the having three.

J

Organizations working within that space to help.

J

Program, I think another really interesting aspect is.

J

um Their proposal for renovation of the space.

J

So, looking at what they're hoping to do in order to upgrade it they're.

J

Looking at a hopeful partnership with the cook group to fund a.

J

Three to five million dollar renovation of the building and.

J

If, if that does happen, if they do get awarded the space.

J

Long-Term lease from the city, um I think that.

J

You know, since the city nest wouldn't necessarily be.

J

um Supporting financially in terms of a renovation of the space that we should.

J

Be able to contribute to at least the access or help facilitate the access of that enable.

J

Actually enable the access to the space for other.

J

um Arts organizations um they're looking you know, they're looking at uh turning.

J

The auditorium into soundproofing a bit more, creating a.

J

Dance floor, so it's a it's easier for dancers to use. So I.

J

Think, um just keeping all of that in mind and and knowing that, if they do have a long-term lease, they're also invested.

J

They would also be investing a lot into that space, so thinking about how we can.

J

Look at investing long term in the actual use of.

J

A

Any questions comments regarding the.

A

Waldron all right, I'd like to add a few things.

C

That we should consider just as commissioners and just as you all kind of go out in the community too,.

C

And think through this.

C

We don't know when we're going to get out of this right.

C

um 21 from the city's point of view financially.

C

The year 2021 are we're going to be okay beyond 21 cities across the u.s.

C

Are going to be hit in a variety of different ways, so that is something to.

C

Consider, too, that this level of support that we have going into 21 this hundred thousand for potentially for the bac grants, might.

C

Not be feasible right and if we're also managing the buzzkirk chumley and the.

C

Waldron that might impact our grants. It's just.

C

Something to think about that we gotta we're gonna, not that we're.

C

Gonna be cutting any kind of budget, but that money has to go somewhere and come from somewhere right. We also um it's a 100 year old.

C

Building and I'm not speaking on the behalf of the city, I'm just saying the reality of the situation and I really wish joanna.

C

Was was with us because she's very good at studying, non-profit spaces and the realities of non-profit management of.

C

Spaces, it is a 100 year old building that has been retrofitted multiple times and has lived this life cycle more than.

C

Once so, the community is wow, it's really.

C

Exciting- and I understand that cardinal and those folks have a variety.

C

Of donors that are interested in that this has happened before so. Some.

C

Community members, I think, are a little bit scared about this falling apart again and not saying that cardinal and I'm not.

C

Saying that about anybody, I'm just saying the reality of the situation is: this is a 100 year old building. It has good bones, but.

C

The financial structure that I think we're going to have to have a real.

C

Long hard look, conversation about capacity and use across the community.

C

Thinking through those things and what that looks like, and I think the commission is going to be tasked with that, going into 21 into 22.. So just being mindful of that, and I really appreciate rachel's.

C

Meeting with carl, with gabe and thinking through other granting, and how we can.

C

Think about next year is really important, but start to have those thoughts and just think about.

C

How there is going to be no return to normal.

C

Once this is all over too so for us to really think and get into that headspace.

C

About like what are the things that didn't work before, why they didn't, but.

C

Also, what are the things we need to be involved in or what are the creation of things that need to happen?.

C

To sustain the arts in in bloomington, frankly,.

C

um Because it's it's not looking hopeful, I mean we still don't even have a second.

C

Round of federal funding coming down right, we we don't have additional.

C

Support structures- um I will say I I'm very happy.

C

In terms of some grants, I'm very happy that we had 21 organizations receive.

C

Money from the indiana development destination development grants. That's.

C

Huge we had 360 000 pour into the community because of that.

C

But also uh region, 8 funding has not been as competitive as it should.

C

Be so making sure that we are reminding folks to get iac funding.

C

uh You know those kinds of things and shoring up organizations to be.

C

Competitive in that sense, because historically.

C

The uh turnout for that grant cycle has been very low.

C

And the competition has not been there in the way that it should be so just.

C

Those are some things to kind of consider as a group.

J

Yeah, I don't think anybody is is denying that those.

J

That it's going to be difficult, financially moving past 2021 and I also.

J

Don't think that this would be a grant that would you.

J

Know replace any of the existing grants. We've.

J

Discussed this multiple for the past, like three years.

J

Of really encouraging everyone, everyone, as in.

J

um Artists and arts organizations to be applying to the state and.

J

Other federal funding in order to offset what we're able to provide what.

J

I'm what I'm trying to propose is that we should be thinking about the waldron's use, whether or not it's.

J

Owned by cardinal bpp or whoever's, managing it, whether it's a non-profit.

J

Or I don't whomever we should have a role in helping.

J

The community actually have access to it and I think that.

J

Having a potential performing arts grant or some sort of.

J

Grant that could be applied to that space, not necessarily like a waldron.

J

Grant or whatever, but I think that in friday's grant committee.

J

Meeting, I think it would be interesting for us to discuss the possibility of.

J

Creating a grant that actually helps facilitate the use of that space and the.

J

Access of that space to a broader community, so it doesn't end.

J

Up being just performances by cardinal bpp and baft, if they're the.

J

Three that end up managing the space. So that's.

J

What I'm getting at is like. I would like us all to be thinking about no matter.

J

Who manages the space? How do we make sure that others who are.

J

Not necessarily managing that space able to access it, and I think that.

J

Having some sort of grant could be a option to help get that.

J

In the proposal they have, they acknowledge the use of community.

A

Of the community using the space and they.

A

Speak a little bit about how it might work, they haven't worked out all of the.

A

Logistics, but they know that a lot of the feedback that they have received is.

A

Exactly that sounds great, but can I use the space as.

A

Well- and I might am I going to get you know, the black out dates that nobody wants. Well, you get all the good ones or how is.

A

That going to work, so there is a lot of questions about how that would work and the community is putting them on the.

A

Spot on it so again, whoever ends up with a space.

A

Depends on if they're also, if they're a performing group or if it's more of a.

A

Management group, like the bct sean, do you know if the bct has sent in.

A

A proposal or if they are not no, they have not.

C

uh We didn't ask for anybody to send in a proposal.

C

Cardinal had a donor that mentioned that, when we let them run with that.

F

We are, we did ask mark levin's, capstone class, to do a feasibility study for the.

C

Waldron, so we have some graduate students with uh policy and finance backgrounds. Looking at like the feasibility of.

C

You know running a space and what that could look like.

C

So mark levin's class is doing a proposal, but that's that's just to get.

C

Kind of a vision of what's possible, you know, I know a lot of people have a lot of opinions about how to make that space.

C

Function right, mark cheetah is one who knows that.

C

Building intimately and has we'll talk here like give you a million ideas of the direction we should go, but also there's some other. You know resources that, um thanks to tyler's work.

C

Back-End work with some surveys. You know thinking about.

C

Joint office space, what that looks like so.

C

We have not, we are hopefully to you know, creating a task force that will.

C

Make a recommendation: you know to the city about the future of the.

C

Waldron, and that might be an rfp phase, I mean we did that with lotus. Just.

C

For newer commissioners, that was an old firehouse that we sold.

C

Them um for one dollar, but it was a very open.

C

Competitive process, it was very well thought out and it's.

C

Not something that we can do overnight. I understand that um you know cardinals rationale, which is very.

C

Understandable. Is that? Because we are in this, like great pause, that now.

C

Would be the time to do the renovations versus clawing out of this thing and.

C

Then trying to do renovations, we at the city, totally understand the.

C

Timing of that, but the reality of of us doing our due diligence with.

C

Taxpayer-Funded dollars and being good stewards of the building.

C

Because there's also a lot of frameworks that weren't necessarily discussed in.

C

That proposal um that are important, like wfhb there's.

C

A there's a re lease rent agreement that is pretty.

C

Significant for wfhps.

C

But it's it's pretty specific in terms of how they get.

C

Corporate broadcasting funding because of their rent being subsidized.

C

Which is a thirty thousand dollar subsidy right? So there's some realities.

C

In terms of finances that um are we, we have to look long and hard.

C

At I think, it's also important to keep in mind just for newer commissioners and the public to you know rachel.

C

Brought it this up, but we do support the bct. Fifty thousand.

C

Dollars annually, and that is that doesn't come from our.

C

Budget comes from city council and the original.

C

Intention of that money is to help foster and subsidize local acts to.

C

Use the stage which it's used for and that's how the.

C

Arts startup program was started under danielle mcclellan, the former.

C

Director uh jonah has been interested, I'm I'm a new.

C

Staff board overseer of the bct, so um you know they're, you know joan is.

C

Obviously, getting kind of uh the wind under his sail so to.

C

Speak he started his job march 14th at the buzzkirk chumley uh two days.

C

After sheltering at home, so um you know he's trying to figure out what the capacity issues and the professional development.

C

Opportunities are uh as well so there's a lot of different.

C

Moving parts, obviously, and so um I actually meeting with jonah.

J

In the next couple weeks for a call- and I I'm pretty sure this is.

J

On the table of discussion that he wants to talk about.

J

So there's anything specific anyone would like me to.

J

Kind of put in front of the bct, let me know.

C

And if you haven't please reach out to jonah he's, he just moved here.

C

Looking for you know- and I know it's weird in terms of digital zoom space but.

C

For you all to get to know them, I mean the bct is a huge asset. It's definitely.

C

An interesting model because we own the building, but they manage it for us. You know that has definitely been.

C

Entertained in terms of thinking about the future of the waldron.

C

But the feasibility we just got to look at you know so.

A

Yeah and so and sean I just would just ask that you keep us in the loop of any.

A

Other major developments like this proposal by.

A

Cardinalbaft and um which we were privy to.

A

But if there's other things that we should be looking at and.

A

Familiarizing ourselves with, please do let us know and.

C

Yeah after this meeting, I can send out the full packet I actually just got it.

C

Yesterday, so I didn't send it out, because I know.

C

uh Brian, you sent it out under arts words, so I assumed everybody had seen it.

C

But I'll make sure that everybody can can have access to it and we'll.

C

Definitely put it on the mark, 11 class and, like I said after tonight, that will.

C

Trigger some things on our behalf in terms of.

C

Like some kind of task force around um the future of the wall, drawing.

A

Yeah and just to clarify, I help them reach out to arts forward bloomington. So.

A

Whomever is on their list is, whoever is, are the people who got it? I did not.

A

Send it to the entire commission and other people.

A

Outside it was their mailing list, it was just they were.

A

Not getting it done quickly enough because of extenuating.

A

Circumstances within their group um and the only way to do it was like.

A

Okay, let's just get it done. What I can do is I'll upload.

C

It to this folder for this meeting just so, everybody has access to it easily.

C

Rather than another email, so just just check on this here in the next.

C

By tonight it should be in there perfect. Thank you.

K

Now I have a question, um so are you? Are we accepting proposal.

K

Submissions or just this has been free.

K

And if somebody wants to submit a proposal like.

K

The cardinal did, how is that working? It would be a official.

K

Submission of proposals for this matter of the warden.

C

Well, so that this was kind of unprecedented we've, never.

C

You know it's not often we get handed back a building.

C

Right um so cardinal felt the need, because.

C

Of I think, a couple different things: one to keep donors interested.

C

uh During these dark and uncertain times, but then also.

C

The livelihood of a lot of arts organizations are tied to the waldron, so.

C

The future of that is really important, so making sure um you know, and uh the the kind of history and the legacy of the city.

C

Owning buildings um is uh by public opinion.

C

Questionable uh right, so I think um the future has not been determined. We.

C

Are gonna review it, but we also have to go through a very public process. No.

C

Matter what we do with the waldron, so there still will be a public process.

C

We don't actually own the building, yet still ivy tech still owns the building. The likelihood of ask of us taking.

C

Ownership of the building in 2020 is not likely, so the transfer might not.

C

Even happen until january of 21, but there's also some.

C

Challenges with lease agreements and those kinds of things with the wfhb and.

C

There's some deed restrictive elements to the building as well. There's an fcc.

C

Regulated tower, that's on the waldron, those kinds of things and it's subject to historic preservation. So uh at the time we are.

C

Not soliciting any kind of proposals from anyone, but we are incur like cardinal had an opportunity.

C

And has a bird in the hand, and we wanted to see what that looked like.

C

So we told them to go, pursue that right, but we're.

C

There will be a public process and I'm sure.

C

I can 100 guarantee you all that the art commission will be involved.

C

No matter what we do perfect valerie malorea, do you feel like.

C

That answered your question. Yes, it does answer my question. I was.

K

Just um it's my personal wish that.

K

K

Places would be open and more opportunity for.

K

Youth, young people so- and I was wondering.

K

If any institution or any, um if you know anybody in town that may.

K

Represent or like we had rhinos before.

K

Something in this direction- I don't know, but I didn't know.

K

If um would be a place for start talking to people and like oh, that.

K

Is this open opportunity, or if this is something that we should.

K

Wait, and just um until we have a more clear.

K

Idea, so that's alright. Thank you. That's a.

B

Good point yeah, I would say, wait at this point and.

A

See what the city first, when things start to actually.

A

Happen as sean said, I think this proposal came.

A

In because um they are that they are on fire and.

A

Trying to figure out how to stay afloat and how to.

A

um You know keep keep their businesses running.

A

And so they got together and talked it out and were very proactive.

A

Instead of waiting for the city to call on the citizens to say, okay.

A

This is what we know. This is what we've reviewed. um This is what we're looking.

A

For these, are you know the ideas or the options that we have? They jumped that gun and went straight for it, which is great.

A

um And we get to talk about it, but I think at this point we hit the pause button, have that awareness and that.

A

Understanding and wait to see what the city starts to come.

A

J

Anything else we should somehow have some sort of grants.

J

Or something to help make that space accessible, and that is why I.

A

Yeah, but but to an extent whoever ends up in that space, even if.

J

It's an all-ages club, sorry yeah, but to an extent we have to.

A

Know a little bit I mean, is it guaranteed.

A

That the space will remain as right: okay, cultural center.

J

Right but I do think that it's worth us looking at.

J

Now, rather than waiting and playing catch up later,.

A

Yeah! No and then in that regards yes, yeah.

A

But you know the possibilities in a way are endless as to.

A

When and how this is going to play out how we can support it, yes, we can have.

A

That on the ready and be proactive as well.

A

But I just want to make sure that we're managing our resources and our time.

A

Wisely and not you know, assuming anything because.

A

The city as a as strong size doesn't even own the building, yet.

A

So a lot- and I do want to say just for the clarity of the commission and.

C

Everybody involved just so we're all on the same page about this. The waldron as it is, is a key critical.

C

Arts infrastructure period, so that's a mindset that we have to.

C

Answer like we have to keep in mind that until there's something else, the waldron.

C

Is it, but you know so it's it's a little bit um in.

C

Terms of like good bad timing, all that kind of stuff cardinal stage.

C

Bpp stages: bloomington jewish theater, bloomington.

C

Echo dance company uh triple ads, a ton of organizations use the waldron.

C

And it is key infrastructure so that we like. That is just something to keep in.

C

Mind for all of us that, no matter what um you know we it it's not like, we can.

C

Just say the waldrena: it's not gonna work out because finances or whatever.

C

It's key infrastructure cardinals attached to that identity. So it's.

C

Important for us to keep that in mind all right. Any other comments, questions.

A

Suggestions regarding the waldron okay: let's go back to the agenda here.

A

Real quick, okay, so the last thing that I have.

A

Is a little bit tied again to the strategic plan and it's just.

A

Trying to figure out what are our goals to wrap up the year.

A

um We're in october, we have two more meetings.

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And anything that we want to set up towards the next six months of.

A

You know january through june.

A

Besides, obviously, you know the public art.

A

Commissions that are happening and contracts, and all of that.

A

Is there anything that the bac wants to accomplish before the end of the year.

A

Nothing all right well, nick.

D

um Obviously, the public art master plan that we already talked about.

D

um You know whether it's fully finished by the end of the year. You know, I think.

D

We should probably have a first meeting and set a timeline from that, but you.

D

Know, I'd like to at least make make some good initial progress on it.

D

um I think, like just you know, I know I know going back like.

D

To the strategic plan you know, brian, you posed the question everyone to.

D

Think about you know which of those goals which of those objectives do people want to. um You know personally put themselves.

D

Towards I do just want to flag that, like there.

D

Are a few things on there that I think are right now you know sort of outside of what has been our remit for the last.

D

Couple years, and so I think, identifying those things.

D

And- and us really thinking about the I don't.

D

Know what sort of structure, whether it's you know, committees or.

D

um You know people signed as like chairs for things or.

D

You know deputized with titles or whatever.

D

I do think we should aim to apply some structure to this, because.

D

There's some things like right now, like social media.

D

And you know quarterly meetings and hosting sessions things like that. That.

D

If we're serious about that, um you know, I think.

D

We should dig on art right away. um You know.

D

Because otherwise, you could, you know just sort of sit there as a.

D

Daydream for a while- that's just my two cents. Yes,.

A

Anybody else want to say anything.

A

All right, that is basically what I would like to accomplish by.

A

The end of the year in the next two and a half months- and it is just kind of.

A

Trying to figure out you know january 1st kind of hit the ground running.

A

In terms of up starting to apply the strategic plan.

A

In the long term, as I mentioned earlier, there's a lot of things in here that are.

A

Not going to happen in the first year, or maybe even the second year, it will.

A

Ease into all of these, so if you can all give me that feedback.

A

As to what you would like to be involved with, I can come back at the next meeting with a proposal.

A

As to how we can structure it or how we can start to apply.

A

This, in a more tangible way.

A

If that works for everybody.

A

All right, uh um I think that wraps up that okay.

A

Commissioner announcements, anybody have anything to share with us today.

A

All right uh one new message: let's see: oh that's, martina, being amazing.

C

Dropping link all right rachel tell us about midway.

A

Yeah, how did that go in a virtual festival.

J

um Nick you, I know nick attended, I don't know if anyone else did but.

J

Yeah we had a week-long festival with.

J

A few hundred people buying tickets and um participating in panels.

J

And concerts for an entire week- and I got no sleep, but it happened.

J

And it was really great and a lot of the artists.

J

Really want to come back to bloomington or actually like come to bloomington. I.

J

Guess not back to bloomington um in person and.

J

Yeah they did q and a's. Well, nick you were watching the kaja set right.

J

Yeah so kaja did a q a afterwards, which was.

J

Pretty cool and so did um kyna and madison mcferrin.

J

But yeah what a trip to do a virtual festival with at least 21.

J

Different events happening in a single week: it was wild, but I'm now a pro at streaming. Software so hit me up. If you.

J

Have questions.

A

Yeah from what I gathered on social media, um it was looking awesome.

A

Thank you yeah. We got some really really good feedback from.

J

um A lot of the artists and managers and booking agents that participated.

J

That want to work with us again in the future, which was really great.

J

um And from a lot of attendees that, like even though I mean I had to use secretly.

J

Groups, internet because my wi-fi was too slow and I was set up in the conference.

J

Room with like three computer monitors and two laptops.

J

Or whatever, and uh and like we were.

J

As chaotic as it was on the back end, everyone said on the front end.

J

It looked super professional, so that was very nice, especially since we had to.

J

Pivot, a few months beforehand, so yeah. Thank you. Thanks to everyone.

J

That attended out there in the world any other.

A

Announcements all right I'll share that starting january I'll, be on the board.

A

For the dimension mill for the next three years or so um so you.

A

Can hit me up over there as well and let's move on to.

A

Members of the public, if you have anything to say.

A

That you want to share with us today.

A

Nope aj: do you want to say anything.

F

I can I can I wasn't intending to, but I I certainly can um well so.

F

For those of you that don't know me um I'm aj o'reilly, I.

F

uh Moved to bloomington in 2008 just to get a bfa in graphic design and haven't.

F

Left since so um here I am, I just finished my.

F

Masters um and when pygmalion's.

F

Announced their closing um being an art student in bloomington.

F

Sort of brigham aliens was wrapped up in the identity of that experience, and so.

F

My wife and I quickly decided that bloomington without an art store seems.

F

Like a very strange idea, so we quickly decided to start uh one. So we.

F

Are starting an art store, called griffey's art supply.

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um And yeah working really hard to get that.

F

uh Up and running, and and in in sort of in town and open for the public.

F

uh Covet has made it very interesting to start a.

F

Physical retail business uh in in town, um but it's been.

F

Fun nonetheless, so we we have established a relationship with the.

F

University, because that's sort of where I have a lot of relationships and.

F

So now we're sort of starting the process of starting and.

F

Building relationships with the community and figuring out.

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um What people want in an art store in town.

F

um We are in, if you know where the old yulezing original yielzing.

F

Space was we are going to be in that space. So that's our way of establishing an actual physical footprint in town.

F

um While it being small, it's sort of a start and.

F

We'll get there um sam, I hope you, you weren't the ones that.

F

Painted that the walls deep purple, but I'm in the process of painting over that.

F

Deep purple uh now and sort of fixing up that space a little bit. So it's not uh so it's something presentable and.

F

We'll have your typical art supplies, so if anybody.

F

Has questions or needs anything in in terms of that stuff? We're.

F

Sort of here to help and and want to be a place in the community just like.

F

Pigments was so um yeah anna's studio is right. Next.

J

Door, correct, okay, yeah right, so the.

F

Suggestion is, if you could have film available for cameras that would be.

J

Great because there's no good, that's like place to get film in this.

J

Town, that's good to know, and so we will uh one of the things that.

F

I do want to do by the so our goal is actually to open to the public.

F

Mid-January sometime and so in the meantime, what I'm hoping.

F

To do is sort of reach out to the community and ask just that, like what type of supplies do you wish you could get.

F

um You know things that you can't either order online or it's not easy. I know.

F

Paper being one of them, that's just kind of a pain to get print making papers. That's one that we'll have.

F

I bought nine flat files from surplus, so we will stock a good.

F

Supply of of paper, um but uh yeah. So in the meantime, what we can.

F

Do is we can do custom ordering. So uh if you remember what layaway was.

F

It'd be something similar to that, so we can order things custom ahead of time and if you can wait a couple weeks, we.

F

Can we can get them delivered and get supplies that people need um so yeah.

F

That's a good suggestion, though. Thank you.

A

Aj, will you put your contact information into the chat so that.

F

Anybody can reach you reach out to you. Yes, yes, I can.

C

uh Aj, I'm sure you've reached out to like jane cooper smith with.

C

A small business development director here at the city and.

C

You know um yeah, perfect timing to open a business really in terms of that.

C

That type of business model, but I think, there's a lot of support.

C

Both within the state and within the city that we can.

C

Kind of point you to too so just make sure I'll close the loop on that.

F

Perfect and I just wrote my email so if anybody has anything.

F

Words of encouragement or or ideas would would be fine, so.

J

Aj we've talked a little bit about it, but did we.

E

Did you ask pygmalions why they went out of business yeah.

F

uh So we actually so the the first thing uh that we did was actually approach.

F

uh The owners of pygmalion's, who, if you, if you know john who is a late owner.

F

uh His sister, so the the pygmalions went into his trust, um and so it was.

F

Managed by his sister, who lived in tulsa um and managed by the trust, um so we.

F

Actually reached out to them to uh because we were interested in just.

F

Buying pygmalion's name, the brand is so strong in bloomington.

F

And obviously I mean that's the reason why we wanted to do it. um It didn't work out for us.

F

For financial reasons, um pygmalion's in in general, I know one of the biggest.

F

Things they um they. There was a lot of updates that.

F

Needed to happen with with that company, um I know they.

F

Had their inventory system on an old like dot.

F

Matrix computer, um so it they needed to do a lot of.

F

Upgrades, and so that was there was capital that needed that way.

F

And then also their rent was going to go up quite a bit, um and I think that was the main driver. In addition to, I think.

F

John from what we heard john was interested.

F

In selling it before he passed um the business, so it wasn't something.

F

That his sister was wanting to really continue on.

F

And it just sort of with the building and the rent going up and covered and.

F

Everything like that it, they just felt it better to.

F

Sort of let it rest, I guess.

A

Well, good speed to you and uh we'll keep keep us in the loop and anything that we.

A

Can do to help you, let us know yeah any other comments from anybody.

A

All right, sean any last words.

A

Nope well, thank you. Everybody we'll adjourn this meeting and we will see you.

A

All next month,.

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