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From YouTube: Panel 1: Would a Next Generation High Speed Network Benefit Bloomington? -- Moderator: Rick Dietz
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Bloomington Indiana Next Generation High Speed Networks Symposium 03/02/2016 at Bloomington City Hall.
Panel: Would a Next Generation High Speed Network Benefit Bloomington?
Moderator: Rick Dietz
Panelists:
Lynn Coyne, President, Bloomington Economic Development Corporation
Elise Kohn, Principal Analyst, CTC Technology & Energy
Mike Trotzke, Co-founder/Managing Member, SproutBox
Brad Wheeler, Vice President for Information Technology and Chief Information Officer, Indiana University
For information contact Symposium organizer Rick Dietz at dietzr@bloomington.in.gov or 812-349-3485.
A
A
B
I'll
begin
and
first,
a
nobler
had
to
catch
a
plane,
but
it
really
was
great
to
have
him
here.
He
really
has
been
a
champion
of
broadband
for
a
long
time,
and
I
thank
mayor
and
Rick
for
bringing
him
in
for
this.
If
he
had
stayed
just
one
moment
longer,
I
would
have
reminded
him
that
the
University
of
Indiana
is
actually
in
Pennsylvania,
but
Indiana
University
is
happily
a
resident
Bloomington
and
other
communities
in
our
state.
B
B
University
I
am
in
the
midst
right
now
in
my
Dean
capacity,
as
is
practically
every
other
Dean
of
fending,
off
sticky
fingers
from
Dean's
and
other
universities
who
would
like
to
entice
some
of
our
folks
to
move
away,
and
it's
not
just
the
sunshine
and
mountains
to
keep
them
here.
So
we
really
have
to
have
more
of
an
offer
than
just
hey
we're
a
great
cool,
big
state
university.
You
know
what
there's
a
lot
of
big
cool,
great
state
universities
across
the
nation.
The
city
of
Bloomington
itself
is
one
of
our
strongest
selling
points.
B
The
devout
this
community
is
fantastic.
You
know
it.
You
choose
to
live
and
make
your
life
here.
So
we
do
sell
this
community
very
much,
but
a
second
point
is
to
extend
of
how
people
live
and
work
today.
So
for
the
folks
that
we're
trying
to
attract
here,
we
have
candidates
in
this
week
as
we
spin
up
the
new
program
and
intelligent
systems.
Engineering
first
engineering
program
here
on
the
Bloomington
campus-
is
we
attract
people
here
we
are
up
against
places
that
are
continuing
to
make
the
kinds
of
investments
that
Blair
talked
about.
B
Well,
the
more
that
we
enable
a
fluidity
between
work
environments,
somebody
working
at
home,
somebody
working
in
their
their
office,
how
many
people
pick
up
and
go
to
Starbucks,
sometimes
just
maybe
a
little
bit
of
the
ambiance,
but
there's
Wi-Fi
there
and
they
can
get
the
things
done,
that
they
need
so
the
notion
of
where
people
work
and
how
they
get
things
done.
This
multiplicative
factor
the
Blair
talks
about,
I
think,
is
immensely
important.
B
This
well
then,
with
two
more
points
than
pass
to
my
good
good
colleagues,
we
have
just
under
nine
thousand
faculty
and
staff
at
indiana
university
bloomington
who
live
in
this
community
and
there
abouts.
So
it
is
immensely
important
to
us
this
question
of
getting
broadband
and
a
gig
to
our
homes
into
our
businesses.
It
didn't
the
second
one
with
another
hat
on
with
the
indiana
university
research
and
technology
corporation
we've
worked
with
be
EDC
land
and
his
predecessor
with
my
other
members
of
the
community.
We've
had
a
couple
of
near
misses.
B
We
came
close,
recruiting
some
very
significant
tech
investments
into
this
community
with
firms
that
were
out
shopping
for
where
to
put
several
hundred
employees
at
a
time
in
tech
work.
Thus
far,
you
know,
we've
been
a
bridesmaid,
not
a
bride
in
that
competition.
This
would
be
one
of
those
points
early
on
that
helps
to
be
a
differentiator
in
not
too
long.
It
would
eliminate
us
for
from
even
reasonable
consideration
for
those
firms.
C
A
C
You
first
let
me
say
thank
you
to
Mayor,
Hamilton
and
Rick
for
having
the
foresight
and
the
great
guests
and
cast
of
characters.
You've
gathered
here
today.
Congratulations
for
that!
The
second
thing
before
I
get
into
the
economic
development
is:
let
me
just
say
that
bloomington
has
the
capacity
to
be
great.
There
is
no
question
about
it.
We
have
the
resources,
you
know
look
at
what
we
have
at
Indiana
University,
the
city
government,
the
commitment
of
the
community.
C
We
have
the
capacity
to
be
extraordinary,
it
is
simply
exercising
the
will
to
be
extraordinary,
organizing
and
collaborating
communicating
and
doing
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
it
happen.
So
I
thank
everyone
for
coming
today
and
we
want
to
keep
that
going
because
it
is
certainly
possible
whether
it's
in
broadband
or
health
care
or
whatever
it
may
be
so
I
agree
absolutely
with
what
brad
has
said
and
what
we
experienced
and
what
he
says
the
university
needs.
We
hear
from
employers
all
the
time
we
are
competing
for
talent.
C
We
are
competing
for
the
opportunities
that
a
community
like
this
offers
and
it
is
a
highly
competitive
environment.
We
tend
to
think
of
ourselves
as
wonderful
and
we
just
live
in
some
form
of
blissful
ignorance.
Here,
it's
not
that
way.
There
are
many
communities
who
would
claim
the
very
same
thing
that
we
claim,
and
so
that's
really
how
we
have
to
compete
and
high-speed
access.
High-Speed
broadband
is
a
critical
factor
in
recruiting
and
retaining
most
jobs
in
America
now
are
not
created
by
the
large
giant
companies.
C
They
are
created
by
companies
who
have
been
in
business
less
than
five
years,
whoever
entrepreneurial
they
create
the
jobs.
We
have
companies
right
here
in
Bloomington
who
are
extraordinary
examples
of
that.
We
have
to
give
them
the
tools
they
need
to
be
able
to
function,
to
go
and
create
the
employment
in
our
community.
To
do
that,
they
have
to
transmit
data
at
very
high
speeds.
They
have
to
transmit
and
deliver
a
data
product
and
receive
a
data
product.
You've
heard
it
mentioned
a
couple
of
times.
C
We
are
going
to
build
in
this
community,
a
regional
academic
health
care
center.
It
is
going
to
be
on
the
Indiana
University
campus.
It
is
going
to
be
a
collaborative
effort
with
the
university
with
possibilities
that
are
frankly,
sometimes
unimaginable
in
terms
of
the
future
of
healthcare,
the
future
of
healthcare,
informatics
and
information
technology.
It's
going
to
be
situated
in
the
heart
of
that.
How
you
receive
your
health
care
in
the
future
may
well
be
determined
by
things
that
occur
there
in
the
years
ahead.
B
Jump
in
!
on
this
that
rolls
off
the
tongue.
You
know
a
regional
academic
health
center,
but
let
me
just
drive
home
a
point
of
how
distinctive
that
is.
An
academic
health
center
generally
is
found
in
a
large
city
where
you
have
a
cluster
of
large
hospitals
and
a
large
medical
school,
and
it's
very
much
a
density
population-based
to
create
a
regional
academic
health
center
with
the
hospital
and,
ultimately,
the
programs
in
nursing
and
the
Med
Sciences
programs
and
those
things
all
clustered
together
just
in
adjacent
buildings.
B
C
Thank
you,
Brian
and,
as
you
think,
about
a
hospital
sitting
next
to
a
health
care
education
facility
by
the
university
right
next
door
to
that
is
Brad
wheelers,
operation
and
information
technology,
and
then
we
have
the
data
center.
We
have
a
nucleus
of
what
could
be
the
future.
The
question
is
how
to
imagine
it
and
then
how
to
deliver
it
and
high-speed
broadband
access
is
going
to
be
fundamentally
critical
to
that.
I
wrote
a
column
recently
about
delivery
of
health
care
and
we
all
know
we'll
be
wearing
some
device.
C
C
We
are
a
regional
hub.
There
is
no
question
about
that,
and
we
owe
that
almost
to
our
regional
partners
to
participate
and
cooperate
with
them
and
provide
opportunities
for
them.
This
may
reach
well
beyond
the
borders
of
the
city
or
the
county.
In
times
ahead
business
attraction,
it's
critical,
it
is
no
longer
just
maybe
we
have
it
is.
We
have
to
have
it
17
years
ago,
20
years
ago,
when
I
was
finding
properties
for
the
university.
The
first
thing,
I
would
ask,
is
where's
your
connectivity.
C
Where
is
your
broadband
where's,
your
internet
connectivity,
because
we
saw
it
as
the
same
thing
as
water
and
electricity
and
sewer
it's
an
essential
utility?
We
wouldn't
even
think
of
going
in
a
building
without
it
Brad
and
his
colleagues
at
the
university
had
the
foresight
to
build
what
was
then
called
I
presume
still
called
the
eye
light
network
to
connect
the
universities
with
dark
fiber.
It
has
meant
great
things
for
all
of
those
universities.
It
can
mean
the
same
thing
for
our
community
and
our
enterprises
that
live
here
and
our
daily
lives.
C
D
C
E
Well
and
the
reason
I
would
have
as
Rick
knows,
which
has
not
come
up
and
I
didn't
see
in
the
bios
that
I
am
actually
a
proud
alum
of
I.
You
I
have
come
back
many
times
over
the
last
couple
of
years
and
I'm
constantly
amazed
at
how
Bloomington
has
changed
since
I
was
here
a
lot
of
those
changes,
whether
it's
the
expansion
of
the
farmers
market
or
expansion
of
Oliver
winery,
are
great.
E
E
Another
key
benefit
is,
you
know,
I
love,
those
old
18t
commercials
where
they
said
you
know,
it's
not
complicated
faster
is
better
or
something
like
that.
Even
the
applications
we
have
today.
It's
a
quality
of
life.
Point
I
mean
whether
it
is
your
email
you're
watching
Netflix.
So
there
is
telemedicine
to
some
degree
as
possible
today,
but
the
faster
the
network
is
the
better
those
experienced
on
those
applications
will
be,
and
the
fourth
which
I
think
Blair
alluded
to
has
his
game
of
gigs.
E
E
So
the
benefits
of
competition
for
residents
that
community
are
very
real
and
to
go
back
to
the
attracting
and
retaining
talent
point.
I
will
say
that
when
I
went
down
to
durham
north
carolina
from
washington
DC,
I
didn't
know
how
long
I
would
stay.
Derma
is
very
different,
but
like
bloomington
Durham
has
its
charms
and
I.
Actually,
one
of
the
main
reasons
that
I
thought
about
leaving
initially
was
what
we
had.
These
deals
in
place.
E
The
network's
weren't
there
yet
and
it
was
incredibly
frustrating
as
someone
who
is
used
to
having
you
know
reasonably
decent
speed.
Certainly
not
the
speeds
we're
talking
about
here,
but
but
speeds
in
DC
are
much
better
and
the
network's,
far
more
reliable
than
what
I
had
in
Durham
and
that
had
a
meaningful
impact
on
my
day-to-day
life
in
a
way
that
I
didn't
even
realize.
E
Until
you
know,
you
almost
don't
know
what
you
have
until
it's
gone
and
when
I
was
in
Durham,
that's
what
I
experienced,
and
that
was
a
big
factor
in
my
decision
making
process.
It
wasn't
ultimately
why
I
left,
because
I
would
have
waited
for
networks
like
this
they're
exciting,
but
but
it's
not
a
hypothetical
when
we
say
that
residents,
young
people
look
for
networks
like
this
and
deciding
where
to
live.
It's
a
very
real
factor
and
I
could
go
on
for
it
forever
here,
but
think
an
interest
of
letting
the
panel
go.
I'll
stop
there.
E
D
D
D
Those
things
are
coming
and
what
we're
doing
right
now
as
a
community,
is
making
a
statement
as
to
rather
not
we're
going
to
be
in
front
of
that
curve
or
behind
and
I
think
it's
really
easy
for
us
as
a
community,
because
we
love
Bloomington.
So
much
and
I
think
this
has
been
hit
on
several
times.
We
love
Bloomington
so
much.
We
often
forget
that
that
that
yes,
we
are
incredibly
awesome,
and
sometimes
that
makes
us
slow
down.
We
go
I
mean
I've
talked
about
how
we
have
great
connectivity
in
Bloomington.
D
For
the
last
eight
years,
I
say
something
about
internet
to
I've,
got
like
a
stain
underline
when
I'm
at
a
conference
right,
but
we're
at
a
point
now
where
there
are
communities.
Clearly
passing
us
with
regard
to
this,
and
we
must
act
and
we
must
produce
something.
That's
unique
and
I
think
there's
more
than
just
an
opportunity
to
lead
on
the
sort
of
on
the
side
of
actually
providing.
D
Think
we've
also
kind
of
all
hit
on
perception
is
huge
as
soon
as
this
is
over
I'm
flying
out
to
San
Francisco
and
every
time
I'm
anywhere
I
get
the
question
what's
happening
in
Bloomington,
what's
happening
in
Indiana
I'm,
actually
staying
with
the
guy
who
was
principal
at
Google,
Fiber,
Neil,
Patel
he's
on
a
board
with
me,
I
know
what
he's
going
to
ask
me
and
I'm
excited
that
I
can
talk
about
this
event
and
I
can
talk
about
that.
We're
moving
forward.
B
Point
there
was
a
question
earlier
on
about
obsolescence.
The
soy
I
took
the
question.
Well,
how
do
we
know
if
we
dug
up
the
streets
and
we
put
in
fiber
that
we
wouldn't
find
out
five
years
from
now?
Oh
my
gosh,
it
shouldn't
have
been
fiber.
We
should
have
put
in
PVC
pipe
I
mean
whatever
you
make
up,
something
like
that.
B
Fiber
has
proven
to
be
remarkably
resilient
as
the
carrier,
and
you
change
the
optical
equipment
on
it
every
so
often
and
magnificently.
The
capacity
goes
up
by
an
order
of
magnitude
or
two
orders
of
magnitude
and
how
fast
you
can
turn
that
flashlight
on
and
off,
going
through
the
fiber
and
how
many
different
ways
you
can
break
it
up
so
by
real
illustration
of
that
at
Indiana
University.
B
If
we
take
just
the
bloomington
in
indianapolis
campuses
alone,
we
started
on
our
network
master
plan
rewiring
the
buildings
that
had
old,
copper
in
them
and
everything
else
imaginable.
Some
of
these
hundreds
of
years
old
is,
you
know,
and
the
parts
around
the
fiber
plant
that
we
need
to
do
360
buildings
in
that
plant
in
2009.
B
But
what
we're
doing
is
we're
refreshing
stuff
in
the
building,
but
by
and
large
the
fiber
that
we
already
owned
was
in
very
good
shape
and
some
of
it
was
put
in
20
years
ago
and
then
fiber
where
we
needed
additional
routes.
We
were
putting
it
in
and
we're
upgrading
the
electronics
on
each
end
of
it.
So
I
just
hope
that
gives
the
community
some
confidence.
If
we
were
to
do
this,
that
we
can
upgrade
the
Optronics
and
equipment,
but
the
core
dig
up
the
sidewalks
issue,
thus
far
experience
shows
it
has
very
long
resilience.
A
Thank
You
Lynn
was
wondering
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
too
Bloomington's
place
in
terms
of
competition
between
cities,
not
just
making
sure
that
we're.
You
know
the
best
that
we
can
be
here,
but
you
know
the
importance
in
terms
of
you
know:
site
selection
for
businesses
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
sure
thanks
Rick,.
C
We
live
in
a
highly
competitive
global
environment
that
moves
at
incredible
speeds.
For
example,
the
old
style
of
economic
development
was
what
empty
factory
did
you
have,
and
how
quickly
can
you
get
some
company
to
move
in?
There
will
get
an
inquiry
now
they
come
through.
Indianapolis
and
they'll
want
a
100,000
square
foot,
building,
30-foot
ceilings,
railroad,
siding
and
they
want
it
in
a
month.
C
Sorry,
we
don't
have
that
and
frankly,
a
lot
of
communities
do
not
have
that
anymore.
What
happens
now
is
a
decision
is
made
to
expand
a
manufacturing
facility
or
to
expand
production,
and
they
will
walk
out
of
the
board
meeting
and
they
will
order
the
equipment,
because
there's
a
year
lead
time
and
then
they
will
look
for
a
place
to
put
it
and,
as
that
time
shrinks
they're,
not
building
anything
they're.
C
Looking
for
something
already
built
for
a
place
to
put
that
so
our
competitive
advantage,
the
first
thing
to
understand
is
who
are
we
and
what
are
we
and
what
do
we
have
to
offer?
Well,
we
are
a
highly
educated
community.
We
have
a
91.1
percent
educational
attainment
rate
for
people
over
25.
That
means
high
school
and
above
our
masters
and
doctoral,
bachelor's
and
master's,
are
well
over
20-some
percent.
We
have
a
community
college,
we
have
a
very
good
secondary
school
system
in
MCC
SC
and
we
have
talent,
we
have
quality
of
life.
C
We
have
a
place,
you
can
live,
you
can
enjoy.
We
have
breweries
and
coffee
shops.
You
know
someone
asked
me
the
other
day,
a
small
community,
what
they
needed
to
do
to
attract
young
people.
I
said
well,
do
you
have
a
brewery?
So
the
mayor
is
right
in
his
state
of
the
city.
He
mentioned
that
he
was
dead
on,
but
at
any
rate,
how
we
compete
with
other
communities
is
based
upon
that
and
then
what
we
can
do
to
offer
them
something
in
understanding
what
we
are.
C
We
are
constrained
by
land
use,
restrictions
and
decisions
of
local
government
that
we
probably
will
not
have
large
manufacturing
facilities.
They
will
be
in
neighboring
counties,
but
where
do
you
think
those
people
want
to
live?
Crane
is
20
some
minutes
away
now
on
I-69
6,000
people,
3,000
plus
engineers.
Where
do
you
think
they're
living?
Where
do
you
think
they're
learning?
Where
do
you
think
they're
spending
their
money,
we'll
start
their
own
businesses?
C
It's
going
to
be
here
and
that's
our
competitive
advantage
is
who
we
are,
what
we
are
our
capacities,
the
services
we
can
deliver,
and
that's
why
this
broadband
is
so
very
important
to
staying
current
and
being
able
to
offer
those
things.
People
can
live
wherever
they
want
to
work.
I
want
to
live.
Excuse
me.
If
you
go
to
cowork
btown
and
you
look
at
the
people
sitting,
there,
they're
working
in
Los,
Angeles,
they're
working
in
New
York,
but
they're
sitting
at
a
desk
in
Bloomington,
because
it's
Bloomington
and
we.
B
Yes
believe
for
retention
particular
and
staff
jobs
with
the
I
t
hat
on
a
lot
of
times.
Of
course,
the
cost
of
living
in
Bloomington
is
a
very
favorable
thing
generally
to
West,
Coast
jobs
etc,
and
we
were
able
to
use
that
on
a
retention
basis.
The
chase
for
talent
is
such
now
that
in
some
cases
were
losing
people
from
the
University
to
go,
take
some
job
somewhere
and
they
say
no,
you
don't
even
have
to
move
just
telecommute.
B
You
can
just
you
know,
work
from
home
or
wherever
and
I
say
that,
both
as
a
risks
to
us
as
a
community,
but
also
as
a
benefit
to
the
extent
this
town
has
greater
and
greater
telecommunications
infrastructure.
People
may
choose
to
make
their
living
here,
even
if
they
happen
to
dial
in
and
do
a
little
work
for
some
company
who
knows
where,
along
the
way
and
in
support
of
lens
two
points,
two
of
the
three
economic
development
projects
I
worked
on
not
long
ago.
D
About
the
classic
version
of
a
start-up
being,
you
know
the
Silicon
Valley
folks
in
a
garage,
but
today
startups
are
started
by
people
on
couches
in
communities
all
over
the
place
because
of
the
connectivity
that
happens,
you
did
and
and
so
that's
why
it's
so
critically
important
that
connectivity
doesn't
just
exist
at
an
office
that
connectivity
is
just
as
powerful
in
everybody.
So
if.
C
A
B
My
chief
of
staff
grabbed
this:
all
data
on
the
web
are
dated
by
at
least
a
second
or
a
year
or
two.
This
is
from
2014
national
broadband
data,
urbana-champaign
being
the
place
on
the
left
and
one
of
our
notorious
rivals
to
recruit
to
and
from
for
talent.
But
you
notice
the
broadband
coverage
at
around
they're
all
solid.
You
see
the
representation
here
in
Bloomington,
showing
we
have
some
work
to
do
and
sadly
I'm
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
tracks.
Personally,
for
where
that
connects.
C
A
Least,
can
you
speak
to
your
experience
in
the
the
Research
Triangle?
You
worked
with
a
number
of
different
cities
and
one
of
the
things
that
has
become
obvious
to
me
as
I've
looked
into
this
topic
for
a
long
time.
As
you
know,
Two
Cities
are
exactly
the
same,
and
no
no
solution
is
exactly
the
same.
In
what
have
you?
You
learned
from
your
very
broad
experience
in
Gig
you
and
the
Research
Triangle.
E
I
think
Blair
alluded
to
it
with
gigue
and,
as
you
said,
I
mean
you
can't
have
a
cookie
cutter
experience,
their
differences
in
state
and
local
laws.
There's
differences
in
level
of
community
support,
there's
differences
in
the
local
market
and
in
demography,
geography.
All
of
these
factors
come
into
play
and
figuring
out
the
right
solution
for
a
particular
community
and
I
think
a
big
part
of
that.
As
Blair
alluded
to
you
know,
the
foundation
is
the
vision
and
having
the
right
vision
is
the
key
factor
that
I've
seen
in
all
of
the
communities
that
succeed.
E
They
may
actually
end
up
taking
a
different
approach
to
get
there,
but
it
starts
with
the
vision
and
the
commitment
to
that
vision
and
the
drive
to
see
it
through
and
then
from
there.
You
do
have
to
tweak
it
based
on
the
trade-offs
between
your
different
goals
and
that
the
realities
of
what
you're,
seeing
in
the
market
and
the
legislative
and
political
environment,
but
a
commitment
to
seeing
it
through
I
think
works
for
a
lot
of
the
communities
that
I've
seen
and.
A
E
It
is
early
days,
I,
think,
probably
rare,
and
talk
about
some
of
the
benefits
that
Kansas
City
seen
and
loved
in
Cleveland.
These
are
communities
that
have
had
it
among
the
longest
or
for
the
longest
in
the
country.
So
they
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
but,
as
I
said
from
day
one
when
it
started
to
become
obvious
that
ATT
and
or
Google
we're
going
to
do
something
in
in
the
Triangle
area,
you
started
to
see
the
local
cable
company
and
the
other
local
telephone
company
really
step
up
in
a
meaningful
way.
E
As
an
example,
I
lived
in
an
apartment
complex
where
we
had
free
cable
but
had
to
pay
for
the
internet,
and
when
it
became
obvious
that
18
teen
Google
were
coming
in
that
provider
upgraded.
So
not
only
does
everyone
have
free
internet
of
some
kind
of
but
free
20,
megabit
per
second
internet.
Now,
it's
a
far
cry
from
a
gig.
For
the
same
time.
It's
free
and
it
you
know
it's
a
nice
benefit.
They
also
stepped
up
by
increasing
I.
Think
their
top
speed
in
the
area
was
50
megabits
per
second,
maybe
75.
E
They
within
a
few
months
up
that
to
300
megabits
per
second,
and
so
those
benefits
come
far
before
any
of
the
benefits
on
the
application
side,
but
they're
they're
necessary,
because
you
can
start
to
do
more
even
at
300
megabits
per
second,
and
the
other
thing
I
want
to
touch
on
is
I.
Think,
there's
a
question
about
the
speed.
You
know
five
years
it
took
for
Google
to
deploy
in
Kansas
City.
E
You
know
these
things
do
take
a
long
time
and
I
don't
want
to
suggest
they
don't,
but
they
don't
all
have
to
take
as
long
I.
Think.
Google
itself
is
learning
as
it
goes,
and
it's
starting
to
be
able
to
get
to
market
in
a
much
quicker
ways.
Any
of
the
incumbents
who
already
have
network
infrastructure
can
get
to
the
market
more
quickly
than
depending
on
what
this,
what
assets
the
city
has
they
can
use.
You
know
there
may
be
ways
to
speed
it
up.
E
A
D
Yeah
I
mean,
if
you,
if
you
know
I
kind
of
alluded
to
the
the
idea
of
startups
on
a
couch
or
in
a
dorm
room,
but
that
is
where
everything
that
sprout
box
is
involved
in
started
and
we're
really
just
deciding
what
we're
going
to
limit
in
terms
of
what
people
can
do.
You
know.
Are
we
going
to
be
focused
in
on,
on
which
side
of
new
technology
will
be
focused
in
on
based
on
the
limitations
that
you're
putting
right
into
your
house
as
to
whether
or
not
you
can
do
something?
D
Let's
say
you
want
to
work
on
a
you
know,
a
new
3d
oriented,
augmented
reality
piece
of
technology
that
required
even
to
just
to
check
it
out
to
start
to
play
with
the
players
that
exist
right
now
in
that
space
bandwidth
is
not
adequate
in
most
places
to
even
try
it.
So
you
save
up
your
capital,
you
go
out
and
you
get
a
piece
of
equipment
to
try
something
like
that
out
and
you
suddenly
find
out
like
that.
D
9600
baud
slip
connection
that
you're
just
not
you're,
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
in
this
community,
which
means
we
won't
have
those
types
of
startups
available
for
us
at
sprout
box
to
look
at
getting
involved
with.
So
you
know,
you're,
basically
setting
a
ceiling
for
the
community
every
time
you
don't
make
these
advancements
and
to
the
point
about
five
years,
I
mean
I.
D
Think
if
it's
going
to
take
five
years-
and
we
should
have
started
five
years
ago,
so
I
don't
feel
like
that
I'd,
be
you
got
to
understand
that
this
isn't
going
to
stop
bandwidth.
Consumption
grows
by
twenty
forty
percent
every
year.
I'm-
not
an
expert
in
that,
but
it's
it's
obviously
not
there's
no
end
in
sight
to
that.
So
this
is
not
a
hey.
Let's
all
get
together
and
solve
this
problem
once
and
go
home.
We
should.
We
should
be
talking
about
this.
You
know
every
year
for
the
foreseeable
future
that.
B
B
Of
course,
some
of
it
is
entertainment
and
gaming
related
quite
a
bit
of
it,
is
exploring
self-directed
learning
trying
things
and
to
this
very
point,
while
we
can
make
the
network
capacity
go
up
up
and
up
by
increasing
the
OP,
the
gear,
the
technical
gear
on
it,
the
applications
that
we
wish
to
do
continue
to
go
up
up
up
streaming.
A
somewhat
okay,
slightly
jittery
movie
from
netflix
on
demand
was
really
a
great
interest
relative
to
waiting
before
the
little
red
mailer
at
one
4k.
E
12
other
things
in
terms
of
what
I've
seen,
one
of
which
is
critically
important
to
university
town,
is
that
a
number
of
communities
that
already
have
these
networks
in
place
or
are
on
the
way
to
getting
them
recently
received
their
part
of
a
consortium
that
received
a
lot
of
federal
money
to
help
develop
these
applications.
And
so
that's
another
important
part
of
what
you
know.
E
Important
benefit
for
the
communities
that
are
out
there
on
the
leading
edge
and
the
other
thing
in
terms
of
what
I'm
starting
to
see,
which
isn't
it's
both
a
result
of
the
network's
coming
and
an
important
part
in
their
successes
that
you
start
to
see.
Community
engagement
and
momentum
that
are
going
to
be
an
important
part
of
driving
the
conversations
around
startups
anything
around
digital
literacy
and
adoption.
The
community
itself
plays
a
key
role
and
those
communities
that
themselves
are
active,
I
think
we'll
get
the
most
out
of
the
network's.
D
Quick
when
one
of
the
challenges
of
the
I
think
we
have
28
companies
that
were
invested
in
this
brown
box
portfolio
about
15
of
them
are
from
you
know
the
coasts
or
out
out
of
state,
and
so
when
we're
trying
to
attract
startups
that
come
in,
and
this
dovetails
back
to
perception,
you
know
we're
in
indiana.
This
is
a
fact,
and
I
have
to
convince
everyone
to
come
stay
here
for
three
months
and
these
sorts
of
things
just
like
this
being
at
the
forefront
of
that
and
saying
hey.
D
B
I,
remember
the
numbers
correctly
and
if
you're
grounding
down,
you
guys
see
these
announcements
coming
out
of
the
University
all
the
time.
A
two
million
dollar
grant
for
this
and
a
five
million
dollar
grant
for
that
in
medical
and
Sciences
and
all
the
the
multiplier
numbers
as
I
recall,
a
million
dollar
grant
to
university.
By
the
time
it
is
spent
and
bounces
around
in
the
community,
someone
works
here,
they
go
grocery
shopping,
etc.
B
Every
million
dollars
creates
greater
than
ten
person
years
of
employment,
one
person
for
ten
years,
ten
people
for
one
year,
and
so
our
ability
to
pull
in
those
contracts
and
grants
have
very,
very
large
economic
multipliers
in
the
local
economy.
Two
other
things
that
we
stood
up
recently:
one
called
jet
stream.
B
You
hear
a
lot
about
big
red
two
in
the
data
center
and
such,
but
we
are
truly
at
a
point
right
now,
where
a
researcher
who
may
be
a
plant
scientist
or
a
psychology
researcher,
she
may
be
sitting
at
home
with
her
iPad
directly
manipulating
one
of
our
super
computers
and
the
tools
to
enable
a
research
on
again
very,
very
large.
Big
data
sets
coming
from
across
the
nation.
This
is
really
really
important
kind
of
if
I
be
in
the
harshest
of
sense
here
but
supercomputing
for
dummies.
B
A
To
give
a
just
a
few
more
minutes
and
we'll
take
an
audience
question
we
just
had
such
a
good
discussion.
I
didn't
want
to
interrupt
earlier,
but
question
is
about
how
can
you
know
we,
as
a
community,
provide
high
speed,
high
speed
bandwidth
when
there's
areas
of
the
community,
the
current
providers?
Aren't
you
willing
willing
to
do
that
that
touches
on
the
digital
divide
question?
A
But
you
know,
we've
already
touched
on
a
number
of
digital
divides
and
one
is
between
the
campus
and
off
campus,
where
there's
a
high-speed
network
on
campus
and
off
campus
isn't
as
high
speed,
then
there's
obviously
economic
dimensions
to
this
as
well.
So
as
part
of
this
process,
how
can
we
ensure
that
nobody
is
left
behind.
E
First
of
all,
it's
hard
to
do.
I,
don't
want
to
suggest
that,
but
the
way
you
do
it
is
to
require
it,
and
even
if
you're
not
saying
required
of
the
incumbents
or
whatever,
but
the
more,
it
is
a
priority
for
you
and
it
influences
all
of
your
decisions
throughout
this
process.
The
more
likely
it
is
that
you
will
have
success,
and
that
may
mean,
as
Blair
alluded
to
that.
If
you
want
everyone
served,
then
you
may
have
to
take
on
more
risk
capital.
E
I
mean
the
trade-offs
will
vary
depending
on
your
approach
to
the
business
model.
As
I
said,
in
North
Carolina
and
the
Digital
Inclusion
was
incredibly
important
to
the
communities
and
that
entered
into
the
negotiations
and
was
consistent
from
all
made
all
of
the
mayor's
than
six
communities
that
we
worked
with
and
as
a
result,
ATT
provided
free
connections,
community,
centers
and
hooked
up,
low-income
housing
and
Google
will
be
hooking
up
public
housing,
so
I
can't
say
there
is
one
way
to
do
it.
E
Just
like
there's
not
one
business
model,
and
it's
certainly
not
easy,
particularly
if
you
go
out
there
with
the
idea
that
that's
going
to
occur
on
day,
one
as
you've
said,
there's
a
lot
of
really
good,
financially
solid
businesses
in
place
today
that
haven't
been
able
to
do
it,
but
they
also
you
know
and
I'm
not
criticizing
this,
but
they
have
to
serve
their
shareholders.
Their
job
is
not
actually
to
serve
all
of
the
needs
of
community.
Their
role
is
to
serve
shareholders,
and
so
they
have
to
make
those
trade-offs.
E
B
Mean
no,
we
just
had
we've
already
done.
We've
solved
this
problem.
Once
before,
when
telephones
became
available,
I
grew
up
in
a
very
small
town
in
Oklahoma
1,200
people
we
had
a
small
telephone
company
there.
It
was
required
by
law
to
extend
phone
lines
out
into
the
rural
agricultural
areas.
You
do
this
by
public
policy.
That's
really
practically
the
only
way.
B
I
know
of
that
you
accomplish
this,
but
the
incentive
for
doing
so
is
Bob
Metcalfe
one
of
the
cofounders
of
3.com
says
the
value
of
a
network
is
approximately
equal
to
the
number
of
users
connected
squared,
and
so,
if
you
remember
your
math,
it
goes
like
that.
So
the
more
people
we
connect
to
the
network,
the
more
valuable
it
becomes
over
time.
We
have
to
distribute
the
costs
of
running
that
network
in
a
way
that's
economically
viable,
as
Blair
rightly
said,
but
the
value
in
the
utility
of
it
to
a
community.
B
Imagine
if
we
had
a
phone
system
that
had
been
built
over
the
prior
hundred
years,
but
it
only
connected
Los
Angeles
in
New
York
in
Chicago
it
would
have
been
far
less
valuable
to
us
as
a
nation.
So
we've
done
this
once
through
public
policy.
I
seems
to
be
probably
the
tool
that
has
to
be
involved
again.
I.
D
Feel,
like
you
know,
on
a
digital
divide
issue.
I
live
in
blue
ridge
and
we
have
recently
received
Smithville
gigabyte,
symmetrical
fiber,
which
is
awesome,
and
so
you
know
work.
I
have
tell
that
to
everyone
and
everyone's
jealous
of
me
right,
there's
a
divide
right
now,
but
I
think
about
how
we
got
that
in
blue
ridge.
It
was,
it
was
about
our
community.
Our
neighborhood
association
was
approached
by
Smithville
and
we
collected
we
would
went
around
and
collected
everybody
up
to
get.
D
C
C
I
think
we
need
to
do
that
with
broadband
I
mean
we
can't
leave
part
of
our
community
behind,
because
such
important
function
of
broadband
is
education
and
how
that
integrates
into
the
school
system
well
just
secondary
school
system,
if
none
other,
but
certainly
at
higher
ed
in
the
community
college,
and
they
have
to
have
access.
As
mr.
Levin
said,
you
know,
children
using
Khan
Academy,
everybody
should
be
able
to
do
that.
We
can't
have
children
in
some
part
of
the
community
accessing
that
and
learning,
and
some
not
that.
B
C
And
it's
going
to
be
increasingly
demanded
of
them,
and
so
one
solution.
Of
course
you
have
the
policy
solution.
You
have
a
construction
solution.
You
know
find
someone
who
needs
it
that
can
afford
it.
It
together
end
of
the
pipe
and
run
it
down
the
street,
where
people
can't
afford
figure
out
how
to
make
it
happen.
So
there's
a
lot
of
issues
involved,
a
lot
of
planning
involved,
but
I
think
we're
the
kind
of
community.