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From YouTube: Panel 2: Use Cases: How High Speed Networks Are Transforming Communities -- Moderator: Brad Wheeler
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Bloomington Indiana Next Generation High Speed Networks Symposium 03/02/2016 at Bloomington City Hall.
Panel: Use Cases for Next Generation Networks: How High Speed Networks Are Transforming Communities
Moderator: Brad Wheeler
Aaron Deacon, Managing Director, KC Digital Drive
Joanne Hovis, President, CTC Technology & Energy
Dr. Mike Sullivan, Associate Director of Health Sciences, Internet 2
For information contact Symposium organizer Rick Dietz at dietzr@bloomington.in.gov or 812-349-3485.
A
So
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
just
open
up
with
in
memory
should
introduce
all
of
our
panelists
to
be
a
proper
about
this.
We
have
Aaron
that
you
just
heard
from
from
Kansas
City
and
one
thing
I
want
to
acknowledge.
I.
Think
you
really
made
clear
in
your
talk
that
city
infrastructure
is
not
about
just
fix
all
the
sidewalks,
and
it
will
be
great.
Oh
wait.
We
need
running
trails
too.
Oh,
we
need
trees.
Oh,
we
also
need
parking
and
your
approach
really.
A
You
may
clear
it
wasn't
just
one
thing
of
all
the
pieces
that
you
had
been
put
that
you
put
together
and
Joanne
havas,
president
of
CTC
technology
and
energy
and
dr.
Mike
Sullivan
associate
director
of
health
sciences
with
internet
too,
and
it's
always
good
to
have
an
MD
on
the
panel
in
case.
Anything
of
an
emergency
nature
happens
as
we
get
started.
I
might
just
go
to
dr.
Sullivan
first,
because
I
think
your
experience
with
networks
and
working
with
the
internet
too,
and
also
having
been
a
physician
with
emergency
rooms,
etc.
A
B
Actually,
if
you
look
at
the
image
on
the
screen
now,
it
shows
a
collection
of
networks,
a
network
of
networks
and
if
you
are
talking
to
technologists
and
I,
see
many
of
them
in
the
audience
here
today.
If
you
say
a
network
of
networks
immediately,
you
think
of
the
internet,
but
if
you're
talking
to
someone
in
systems
biology
or
in
systems,
medicine
network
of
networks
means
something
entirely
different.
B
B
The
interesting
thing,
though,
is
that
both
of
them
have
diagnosed
a
severe
chronic
medical
problem
before
doctors
found
it,
and
so
larry
has
inflammatory
bowel
disease.
Michael
Schneider
has
type
2
diabetes,
each
of
them
which
their
doctor
with
information
they
had
found
and
said.
You
know
I,
think
you
better
check
for
this,
and
in
both
cases
the
doctor
said
no
you're,
fine,
no
problem,
and
shortly
thereafter
each
of
them
developed
these
problems.
B
This
is
probably
the
main
driver,
not
this
particular
unit,
but
but
this
kind
of
instrument
that
can
sequence
DNA,
is
driving
the
explosion
of
data
and
today,
on
internet
to
net
internet
tues
network
we're
seeing
vast
amounts
of
genomic
data
being
moved
around
the
country.
This
little
unit
here
is
a
handheld
DNA
sequencer.
B
They
were
testing
it
last
year
and
now
it's
being
deployed
in
Africa
out
in
the
field
to
detect
Ebola
and
you
just
plug
it
in
it's
got
a
USB
port
on
it.
There
you
plug
it
into
your
laptop
and
in
fact
that's
what
I
see
as
probably
the
main
trend
that
will
result
and
really
vast
amounts
of
information
flowing,
not
just
between
hospitals
and
genomic
centers,
but
actually
people
at
home,
Qualcomm
announced
a
tricorder
xprize
five
years
ago.
B
B
These
devices
will
need
to
be
able
to
monitor,
in
real
time
all
five
vital
signs
plus
be
able
to
diagnose
a
dozen
diseases,
diagnose
them
as
well
as
a
panel
of
board-certified
physicians,
so
I
I
think
it
will
be
the
case
that
we
will
see
new
technologies
that
actually
will
be
deployed
in
people's
homes
and
being
able
to
connect.
Those
is
going
to
lead
to
all
kinds
of
discoveries
that
we
can
only
dream
of.
At
this
point
and.
A
I
remember
the
campaign
correctly.
I
want
to
begin
with
a
question,
a
simple
question
to
Aaron
and
then
go
to
Joanne
Aaron.
You
guys
won
the
Google
lottery,
competition
should
say
for
the
very
meritorious
proposal,
but,
as
you
said,
there
is
just
a
little
bit
of
luck
and
lottery
to
it.
What
do
you
think
the
total
investment
from
google
will
be
in
Kansas
City
by
the
time
it's
done?
I've.
A
A
billion
dollars
well,
fortunately,
we
have
a
smaller
landmass.
Then
I
can't
Kansas
City,
so
we
probably
can
get
this
done
with
helped
commercial
partners
for
perhaps
a
bit
less
than
that,
but
Joanne
now
to
you,
let's
get
down
to
it.
You
have
a
lot
of
observations,
expertise
of
communities
who
have
done
these
things.
What
are
some
of
our
options
and
approaches,
and
what
should
we
expect
if
we
do
it
in
reality,.
C
Wow
I
could
go
on
for
eight
hours.
Let
me
let
me
see
if
I
can
do
this
in
a
minute
or
two
I'm
I've
worked
with
a
number
of
university
communities,
including
champaign-urbana,
Lexington,
Madison
and
Lawrence,
and
bolder,
and
it's
no
coincidence
that
this
conversation
is
happening
in
a
very
innovative
and
creative
way
in
university
towns.
So
that's
a
really
good
start.
I
think
what
you
can
expect
is
number
one.
C
This
flows
from
some
of
what
Blair
was
saying
this
morning,
we're
in
a
moment
of
enormous
local
government
innovation
around
broadband,
particularly
fiber
to
the
home-
and
you
are
an
early
mover,
there's
a
process
that
started
back
probably
around
the
last
couple
of
years
of
the
Bush
administration
that
has
accelerated
in
recent
years
in
part,
in
reaction
to
fact
that
the
need
for
fiber
of
the
home
and
gigabit
services
were
popularized
by
Google
Fiber.
Many
communities
already
knew
it.
C
Many
communities
were
working
on
at
a
decade
earlier,
but
policymakers
started
listening
and
the
public
started
understanding
the
power
of
a
gigabit
when
Google
Fiber
talked
about
it.
So
we
had
this
transformative
moment
where
suddenly
communities
were
thinking
in
new
ways
and
what
we've
seen
come
from
that
has
been
an
explosion
of
creativity
for
a
long
time.
The
only
models
for
a
community,
no
matter
how
great
a
market
it
was,
were
either
to
beg
the
incumbent
to
upgrade
their
networks,
which
really
wasn't
happening
because
absent
competition.
C
Why
would
you
put
more
money
into
a
network
you're
making
great
money
on
right?
Why
invest
in
something
when
you're
reaping
the
benefits
of
your
investment
of
earlier
years?
So
competition
has
to
come
in
to
change
that.
That
was
one
option
and
the
other
option
was
the
municipal
broadband
model,
which
was
municipal,
construction,
ownership,
maintenance,
service
provision,
customer
service,
very
high-risk,
incredibly
impressive,
but
really
tough
to
do,
and
that's
why
we
only
have
about
a
hundred
of
those
networks
around
the
country.
C
C
The
most
recent
one
being
the
Huntsville
Google
Fiber
announcement
of
last
week,
but
we
don't
have
ten
years
of
data
and
we
don't
have
a
hundred
cities
that
have
done
this
Bloomington,
whatever
route
it
chooses
to
take
care,
will
be
a
pioneering
city,
whether
it's
public
private
partnership
or
something
that's
purely
facilitating
private
investment
or
something
that's
more
public.
You
are
creating
a
new
model,
but
of
course
that's
what
university
communities
do,
and
that
was
the
whole
idea
behind
gigue.
So
let
me
add
one
last
thing,
because
I
think
I've
gone
over
my
two
minutes.
C
C
And
so
we
on
the
public
sector
side
need
to
address
that
so
that
we
know
that
that
happens
first
and
is
not
waiting
for
private
sector
roi
to
change
over
time.
And
then
they
entered
into
a
partnership
with
a
private
company
that
agreed
to
build
out
and
return
for
access
to
the
existing
customers
and
infrastructure.
C
There's
a
certain
amount
of
uncertainty
there
right
now,
because
the
partner
that
they
entered
into
the
agreement
with
is
selling
its
network
for
unrelated
reasons,
but
all
of
the
the
commitments
that
that
partner
made
and
all
of
the
public
policy
goals
of
the
program
remain
intact
under
the
relationship
between
the
cities
and
the
partner.
But
that
was
this
very
early
innovation.
So
you
get
some
risk
taken
by
the
city's,
the
public
investment.
C
You
know
in
the
tens
of
millions,
but
in
the
long
run,
if
those,
if
that
those
cities
get
built
out
entirely,
it's
in
excess
of
100
million
dollars
of
investment.
The
city's
get
all
of
the
value
of
the
network.
All
of
the
ancillary
benefits
all
of
the
positive
externalities
in
return
for
a
more
modest
investment
and
attracting
that
private
investment
and
that's
the
model
that
communities
since
then
have
been
working
with
Huntsville
most
recently,
which
replicated
a
model
created
in
West,
Westminster
Maryland
excuse
me
and
also
Santa
Cruz
California,
which
is
doing
the
same
thing.
C
A
local
partner
providing
services
on
city
built
and
city-owned
fiber,
but
the
city's
just
in
the
public
works
business
just
in
the
roads,
business
fiber
optics
never
plug
into
anything.
No
electricity
involved,
no
I
te
capabilities,
no
customer
service,
we're
building
roads
and
we're
maintaining
those
roads,
and
so
that's
the
most
recent
model
to
emerge
and
I
think
it's
probably
I
think
the
most
replicable
that's
the
state
of
where
we
are
now.
What
you
will
do
here
in
Bloomington
will
be
the
next
stage
of
innovation.
It's
a
very
exciting
moment.
Let.
A
A
Another
model
and
I
think
the
mayor
has
alluded
to
this.
In
his
high-level
comments
of
maybe
we
dig
up
the
road
once
and
maybe
there's
multiple
providers
running
across
that
rather
than
a
single
provider,
is
what
are
the
merits
of
each
of
those
multiple
companies
selling
making
connections
off
of
a
common
infrastructure.
Verse
is
saying:
no,
we
really
just
need
one
infrastructure
operator
and
we
need
them
to
do
a
good
job
who
wasn't
like
you
or
aaron.
You
want
to
go
first.
C
I'm
so
I
mean
I.
Think
you
just
summarized
the
heart
of
why
we
have
a
broadband
problem
in
the
United
States.
We
have
a
regulatory
framework
that
requires
anybody
who
wants
to
offer
services
in
the
broadband
data
market
to
go
out
and
build
a
whole
new
network
and
that's
crazy.
It's
totally
irrational
right.
The
kind
of
classic
analogy
is
that
we
would
require
every
package
delivery
firm
to
build
its
new
road
network
in
order
to
deliver
packages.
C
Diet,
it
makes
no
sense
whatsoever,
but
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
that
is
the
regulatory
framework
we
have,
unlike
other
countries
and
many
countries,
particularly
in
the
Pacific
Rim,
have
done
this.
There
is
no
requirement
that
everybody
used
the
same
network
and
the
networks
are
perfectly
capable
of
sustaining
men.
Many
Internet
service
providers,
it's
the
nature
of
fiber
that
it
is.
It
has
virtually
unlimited
capacity
over
time
if
you
engineer
it
right,
but
this
is
what
we
have.
We
have
that
situation
and
I.
C
C
Over
the
same
network
exactly-
and
it
could
be
that
it's
there
on
different
fibers,
it
could
be
there
on
different
wavelengths.
It
could
be
there
on
different
circuits.
It's
done
in
all
different
ways,
primarily
in
Europe.
It
has
not
emerged
in
the
United
States,
though,
and
let
me
just
briefly
say
two
things
that
are
caveats
to
my
enthusiasm
for
this
model
number
one
is:
the
incumbent
providers
have
been
completely
unwilling
to
go
down
this
road.
C
They
want
to
own
and
operate
their
own
networks
and
I
have
yet
to
see
a
major
incumbent,
phone
or
cable
company
agree
to
use
somebody
else's
fibre-to-the-home
in
a
robust
way,
and
in
that
scenario-
and
they
certainly
don't
want
to
go
anywhere
near
publicly
owned
fiber,
they
don't
ride
municipal
fiber,
but
as
of
last
week,
Google
Fiber,
a
very
important
player,
has
said
we
will
use
other
entities
fiber.
So
maybe
what
that
does
is
it
starts
to
open
up
new
opportunities
and
models.
C
The
second
caveat
I
would
offer,
though,
is
the
economics
of
all
of
this.
They,
the
challenge,
even
when
you
have
access
to
already
existing
fibers,
that
you
have
to
pay
to
lease.
The
fiber
and
hopefully
that's
going
to
be
affordable,
but
then
you
have
to
light
an
optical
network.
You
have
to
provision
service,
you
have
to
develop
the
customer
service
and
back-office
operations
that
you
need.
C
It's
still
a
pretty
costly
thing
to
come
into
a
new
market
and
to
offer
service,
and
we
know
that
there
is
still
a
finite
market
that
now
multiple
companies
are
sharing.
Is
there
enough
market,
and
is
there
enough
potential
growth
in
that
market
and
in
what
individual
businesses
and
residents
will
spend
to
encourage
additional
companies
to
come
in?
We
don't
know
that
yet
and.
A
It
is
one
of
the
things
that
you
say
it
blends
the
market
force
of
competition
to
hopefully
drive
innovation
and
price
and
service
levels
and
all
those
things
being
very
important.
It
simultaneously
adds
a
bit
of
complexity,
my
home
internet
sout,
so
I
call
my
provider
and
they
say
it's
not
us.
It's
the
folks
that
actually
run
the
the
carrier
run,
run
the
the
fiber
itself
and
I
can't
call
them
I'm,
not
their
customer
of
that
business.
A
D
I
think
I
think
the
interesting
place
where
we
are
right
now
is
thinking
about
what
are
the
common
assets
and
what
can
be
used
by
multiple
people,
and
how
do
you
spur
innovation
in
those
networks?
So
is
it?
Is
it
then
you
kind
of
laid
this
out
right?
Is
it
the
fiber
his
own?
Is
it
the
conduit?
That
is
the
public
asset?
Is
it
the
rights
away?
Is
it
the
spectrum
that
is
owned
and
operated
at
a
federal
level,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
layers
to
how
these
networks
are
built.
D
There
are
a
lot
of
places
where
you
can
have
public
ownership,
and
then
you
know:
where
does
it
turn
over
to
fiber
or
ownership?
Even
if
you
think
about
the
fiber
itself,
you
know,
is
it
the
building
that
it
becomes
private?
Is
it
at
the
house?
Does
it
never
become
private?
Is
it
all
public
asset?
You
know
there
are
a
number
of
models,
a
lot
in
Europe
and
in
Asia
and
some
that
are
emerging
here
in
the
US.
I
think
there's
still
some
question
about
which
which
one's
going
to
be
the
best.
D
I
agree
completely
that
the
way
that
it
is
where
you
need
to
build
your
whole
network
from
scratch
doesn't
make
any
sense
and-
and
it's
difficult
you
know,
there's
a
counter
that
says.
Well,
it's
you
know
it's
a
lot
easier
to
build
a
fiber
network
than
to
build
roads.
Is
it
I,
don't
know
it's
it's
some
easier
I
mean
it's,
but
I
think
how
that
how
that
plays
out
is
interesting.
D
I
do
think
you
know
that
we
get
I
mean
one
of
the
things
that
happens,
or
at
least
has
happened
in
the
US,
and
my
only
kind
of
frame
of
reference
is
the
last
four
years
seeing
how
this
has
rolled
out
here.
You
know,
for
a
long
time
a
giant
talked
about
going
back
to
the
mid-2000s,
this
conversation
I.
How
do
we
spur
this?
D
This
change
and
people
really
frustrated
because
we
were
way
behind
and
and
in
some
sense,
I,
don't
know
if
we've
caught
up
I,
don't
know
you
know,
but
but
you
see
now
this
acceleration
and
it
really
was
driven
by
google
in
some
ways.
Looking
at
this
and
saying
you
know,
there
is
actually
a
private
investment
reason
for
us
to
do
this
in
a
way
to
do
it
and
we're
going
to
actually
build
our
own
new
network
and
now
we're
starting
to
see
sort
of
innovation
and
business
models
and
how
you
stitch
together
those
assets.
A
I
think
it's
usually
in
touched
on
an
important
point
that
I
might
just
illustrate
for
the
audience
it
can
imagine
if
the
city
chose
to
put
in
a
water
system
to
all
the
homes,
and
we
you
know
it
runs
it
as
a
single
operator.
I
pay
my
bill
to
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
that
works
fine.
But
what
if
the
city
had
the
ability
to
say
no
there's
four
different
companies
selling
water
off
that
pipe,
but
then
also
each
of
those
companies
provide
their
own
water.
A
They
just
transit
it
through
the
pipe
there's
orange
water
and
there's
blue
water
and
there's
green
water
and
sighs
she's,
like
one
of
that
sounds
kind
of
silly.
How
would
that
ever
work,
but
to
the
very
point
you
make
with
fiber,
you
can
do
that.
You
can
split
the
the
bandwidth
per
se
and
different
companies
can
run
through
the
same
common
carrier,
so
just
in
case
that
slipped
by
everybody.
What
she
was
talking
about.
That's
the
point
and
I
can't
help,
but
to
call
out
Marion
Chitwood,
who
is
sitting
here
on
the
second
row.
A
Mary
Ann
works
for
Dave
gent
and,
if
I
may
be
indelicate,
Mary
Ann
his
queen
bee
of
I
light
and
she
has
done
fiber
deals
with
them,
I,
don't
know,
probably
30
or
40
carriers
across
the
state.
The
iolite
network
is
roughly
about
a
thousand
miles
connecting
the
colleges
and
universities
of
the
state
and
over
900
of
it
is
from
contracts
with
all
sorts
of
companies
all
over
the
state.
So
she's
learned
a
lot
about
these
various
things
and
operating
fiber.
On
top
of
that,
so
I
want
to
go
back
to
dr.
A
Sullivan
and
I'm,
going
to
take
a
contrarian
point
of
view
if
I
may.
So,
if
I'm,
a
radiologist
and
I
have
some
extraordinary
large
images
and
I
get
goes
to
the
hospital
for
the
other
doctors
to
be
able
to
see
that's
a
business
to
business
relationship.
I
understand
why
large
connectivity
would
matter,
but
is
it
really
going
to
matter
for
anything
foreseeable
medical
to
the
home?
Convince
me
that's.
B
A
great
question-
and
you
know,
and
preparing
to
answer
that
I
actually
looked
at
the
u.s.
ignite
website
because
they
have
a
collection
of
I,
think
maybe
25
or
so.
Medical
applications
designed
for
gigabit
communities
and
I
will
have
to
admit
that
just
about
all
25
looked
to
me
like
they'd
work,
pretty
well
at
around
10
or
20
megabit,
nothing
that
really
required
a
gigabit.
B
Now
there
are
some
exceptions
to
that
and
I
think
as
we
move
into
a
situation
where
there
is
more
there,
more
medical
visits,
encounters
between
patients
and
their
physician
that
are
taking
place
with
the
patient
at
home.
There
will
be
opportunities
to
leverage
that
high
bandwidth
and
and
one
example,
you
know,
just
as
we
all
enjoy
the
video
services
with
Netflix.
If
you
have
4k
or
AK
video
between
well,
there
are
several
medical
specialties
where
you
could
utilize
that
really
super
high
definition.
B
A
That
way,
and
you
can
imagine
the
continuation
of
what
you
used
to
be
in
the
hospital
for
eventually
became
an
outpatient
more
and
more
of
that
becomes
things
that
may
be
able
for
check-ups
follow-ups
things
be
done
at
home.
The
second
thing
I'll
observe
with
my
own
parents,
who
have
some
health
matters,
I'm
absolutely
astounded
at
their
level
of
medical
vocabulary
that
they
have
learned
about
all
of
these
things
that
are
going
on
with
them
and
their
ability
to
describe
and
such
and
time
spent
on
the
internet
learning
about
them.
A
And
so
you
can
imagine
some
of
that
dialogue
with
a
doctor
at
some
point
in
the
not
too
distant
future,
not
only
being
sending
some
medical
results
and
things
back
and
forth,
but
being
able
to
look
at
some
of
that
imagery.
It's
probably
the
imagery
I
think
for
what
we
know
right
now.
It
may
be
the
most
bandwidth-intensive
right.
B
C
B
It
can
be
a
real
challenge
and
any
technology
that
can
help
enable
that
I
think
is
going
to
be
quite
valuable
and
a
number
of
these
sensor,
sweets
I,
think
we'll
actually
be
end
up
being
quite
useful.
Now,
typically,
those
are
not
real
high
bandwidth,
but
if
you
extend
that
across
the
whole
community
and
you've
got
thousands
of
people
delivering
that
sensor
data
to
a
aggregation
point,
then
you
may
be
starting
to
talk
about
significantly.
A
And
I
think
the
point
that
Blair
made
earlier
on.
We
sometimes
have
this
debate
about
well
as
Wireless.
Just
going
to
be,
the
trade
off
weed
need
all
of
this
wired
infrastructure,
but
from
everything
we
see
we,
the
curves
over
the
last
20
plus
years.
We
need
both
and
a
lot
of
the
wireless
infrastructure
wherever
it
may
be
often
connects
up
to
wired
infrastructure
that
hauls
that
traffic
in
following
I
want
to
be
mindful
of
giving
love
all
the
time.
A
He's
do
so
I'm
going
to
close
with
just
a
question
for
each
of
our
panelists
and
if
you
try
to
take
about
30
seconds
on
it,
I
appreciate
the
Joann
and
reminds
us
that
we
still
have
a
leadership
opportunity
for
this
community
in
working
out
these
business
models,
the
public-private
partnership,
whatever
blend
developments,
we
choose
to
do
in
this,
so
with
your
very
best
judgment
from
what
you
know
thus
far.
What
is
your
30
seconds
advice
to
the
mayor,
Erin.
D
C
There's
going
to
be
risk
and
cost
involved,
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
because
of
your
very
impressive
goal
of
wanting
ubiquity
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
served
rather
than
just
the
neighborhood's
from
the
private
sector
sees
a
business
opportunity,
and
that
is
the
private
sector
model
going
forward.
They
build
where
there's
roi.
The
public
sector
model
is
to
invest
such
that
everybody
gets
served
and
that's
where
cities
are
really
innovating.
B
Travel
around
the
country
and
and
work
with
a
lot
of
different
medical,
centers
and
genomic
centers
and
whatever,
but
I,
can't
think
of
any
place
in
the
United
States
with
networking
and
cyber
infrastructure.
Expertise
equal
to
Indiana,
University
and
so
I
would
advise
trying
to
leverage
that
as
much
as
you
can
and
collaborate
with
the
University
and.
A
I'll
take
the
chairs
liberty
to
answer
my
own
question
so
John,
my
my
guidance
would
be.
I
was
really
captured
by
the
principles
you
articulated
when
you
stood
up
to
the
mic
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
and
that
we
stay
focused
as
the
whole
of
a
community
on
achieving
the
outcome.
Achieving
the
outcome
for
the
community
I
appreciate
that
Joanna's
reminded
us
there's
a
variety
of
ways
to
get
there,
none
perfectly
better
than
the
other
one.