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From YouTube: Bloomington Board of Zoning Appeals, September 21, 2023
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Okay,
thank
you
okay.
So
this
evening,
actually
the
the
petitions
that
are
continued
to
our
October
19th
meeting
are
there's
only
one
and
it's
a
a-17-22
Joe
Kemp
Construction
LLC
and
Blackwell
Construction
Inc
this
evening
on
our
docket.
We
have
the
following
petitions:
v-27-23
Brian
rental,
Inc
and
crane
of
Indiana
LLC
v-28-23,
Hoosier,
Commons
LLC,.
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So,
as
mentioned,
the
first
petition
is
from
Red
I'm,
sorry
from
Brand
rental,
for
a
property
at
123,
South,
Kingston
Drive.
The
petitioners
are
here
tonight
to
request
a
variance
from
Maximum
parking
standards
to
allow
for
267
parking
spaces
for
a
retail
sales
large
use
in
the
mixed-use
corridor.
Zoning
District.
So
this
is
for
a
property
at
123
South,
Kingston
Drive.
It
is
zoned
mixed
use.
Corridor
the
property
has
been
developed
with
the
50
56
000
square
or
51
000
square
foot.
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Building
the
building
has
sat
empty
for
several
years.
Adjacent
land
uses
include
a
multi-tenant
shopping
center
to
the
east,
to
the
West.
You
have
various
multi-family
residences
to
the
South.
You
have
various
commercial
uses
and
then
further
to
the
east,
you
have
single
family
neighborhood,
so
this
property
formally
contained
the
Marsh
Supermarket.
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It
has
sat
empty
for
several
years
and
the
petitioner
or
the
owner
has
been
working
with
a
new
tenant
to
move
into
the
Space
Academy
Sports
to
use
that
for
a
sporting
goods
store
so
because
the
property
has
sat
empty
for
more
than
a
year.
Any
new
use
that
comes
in
is
considered
a
change
in
use
and
has
to
meet
The
Limited
compliance
standards
of
the
Udo.
So
one
of
those
standards
is
the
removal
of
parking
spaces
over
the
maximum
that'll
that
is
allowed.
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So
the
site
has
several
surface
parking
lot:
spaces
that
are
on
the
south
side
of
the
building
and
some
to
the
east.
There
are
currently
267
parking
spaces.
The
use
of
the
retail
sales
large
51,
268
square
foot
building
would
only
allow
for
100
and
69
parking
spaces.
The
site
currently
has
267.,
so
approximately
98
parking
spaces
would
have
to
be
removed
to
bring
the
site
into
compliance,
so
the
petitioner
is
requesting
a
variance
in
order
to
allow
for
all
of
the
existing
parking
spaces
to
remain
so.
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They
have
submitted
a
parking
study
as
part
of
this.
The
parking
study,
though,
really
is
just
a
count
of
three
other
locations
and
the
number
of
parking
spaces
that
are
on
that
site.
The
parking
information
that's
been
submitted
is
not
a
usage
study
that
we
typically
see
with
these
maximum
parking
variances.
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You
know
where
somebody
has
gone
out
and
actually
counted
the
number
of
parking,
the
number
of
cars
that
are
in
the
parking
lot
over
the
course
of
a
day
over
several
days
or
weeks.
You
know
to
demonstrate
a
specific
demonstrated
need.
The
parking
information,
just
as
I
mentioned,
simply
counts
the
number
of
spaces
that
are
in
the
lot.
So
you
know
with
these
variants
of
some
Maximum
parking
standards.
This
usage
study
has
been
something
that
has
always
been
submitted
to
help
demonstrate
a
particular
need.
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So
we
we
haven't
really
had
that
information
submitted
with
this
in
order
to
make
any
findings
to
recommend
something
over
the
number
of
169
parking
spaces
that
would
be
allowed.
So
it
should
also
be
noted
that
the
petitioner
owns
the
immediately
adjacent
property
that
has
been
developed
with
a
14
000
square
foot
building
when
that
property
came
forward
for
development
in
2006,
they
installed
126
parking
spaces,
expecting
future
office
uses
and
Retail
uses.
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You
know
such
as
bicycle
Park,
bicycles,
bus
route,
Transit,
you
know
and
is
contrary
to
many
of
the
goals
and
out
principles
outlined
in
the
comprehensive
plan
that
were
the
reason
behind
maximum
parkings.
You
know
these
goals.
These
requirements
were
there
to
make
sure
that
the
amount
of
parking
that
is
on
a
site
is
appropriate,
that
we
don't
have
excess
asphalt
sitting
there.
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You
know
it
creates
a
visual
buffer
or
a
visual
hindrance,
as
well
as
pedestrian
a
lack
of
pedestrian
connection
opportunities
through
a
site
to
a
building.
You
know,
walking
through
a
sea
of
asphalt
and
parking,
you
know,
does
not
promote
pedestrian
accessibility
to
a
building,
so
that
does
create
a
undesirable
effect
along
the
streetscape.
In
addition
to
you
know,
just
the
presence
of
asphalt
and
cars
sitting
there
you
know
goes
against
many
of
the
goals
within
our
comprehensive
plan.
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You
know
the
the
parking
maximums
that
are
in
the
zoning
code
apply
to
all
properties,
including
retail
uses.
There
are
uses
around
Bloomington
that
have
retail
uses
that
meet
the
standard,
and
businesses
are
allowed
to
continue
and
remain.
You
know
we
do
not
find
that
there
is
anything
unique
about
the
property
that
does
not
allow
them
to
remove
the
spaces
and,
more
specifically,
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
with
the
parking
information
and
a
parking
study,
the
particulars
have
not
demonstrated
any
actual
need
based
on
usage
to
justify
the
Extra
Spaces.
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You
know
that
is
a
big
component.
Is
you
know
a
parking
study
that
demonstrates
a
specific
demonstrated
need.
You
know
not
just
the
presence
of
parking
spaces
and
other
locations,
but
you
know
a
study
conducted
over
several
days,
showing
a
demonstrated
need
so
with
that
lack
of
information
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
other
findings
that
I'm
in
mentioned
the
department,
recommends
that
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
adopt
these
proposed
findings
and
deny
this
variance
request
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Okay,.
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So
I'd
like
to
start
out
with
a
just
a
very
brief
history
of
the
property
Mr
Gulick
is
correct.
The
the
property
has
set
empty
for
several
years
six
years.
In
fact,
it
is
under
lease
with
Kroger
company
who
purchased
the
lease
out
of
the
bankruptcy
of
marsh,
and
they
are
content
to
let
the
property
sit
idle
primarily
to
a
limit
competition
make
sure
no
other
grocery
store
goes
in
there.
So
it
has.
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It
has
set
empty
for
an
extended
period
of
time
and
every
expectation
that
unless
a
new
tenant
can
be
found
that
that
is
interested
in
the
site,
it
will
continue
to
sit
empty
and
it
will
continue
to
deteriorate
and
really
provide
very
little.
You
know
activity
other
than
you
know
what
you've
seen
for
the
last
for
the
last
six
years.
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The
property
was
for
years
back
to
the
the
point
in
time
when
it
was
a
Service
Merchandise
and
then
a
marsh
part
of
a
planned
unit
development
that
PUD
has
been
terminated
within
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
now
it's
a
it's
zoned
as
a
mixed-use
corridor.
Because
of
the
change
of
use,
there
are
conditions
that
will
be
imposed
and
both
the
owner
and
the
closed
captioning
not
available.
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It
is
our
considered
opinion
that,
as
part
of
the
ReUse
of
this
property
and
the
improvements
that
will
be
made
to
this
property
by
Academy
Sports
that
there
can
be
used,
uses
and
upgrades
to
the
the
existing
parking
that
will
bring
it
into
compliance
with
current
standards.
For
the
use
of
this,
this
kind
of
a
property
and
it
will
bring
the
number
of
available
parking
space-
is
much
closer
to
what
the
current
ordinance
requires.
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So
what
we
have
done
is
is
looked
at
the
various
parking
aspects
and
tried
to
come
up
with
a
more
creative
ideas
than
simply
or
for
the
existing
parking
spaces
so
closest
to
Third
Street.
There
are
26
spaces.
This
is
a
a
small
parking
facility
in
between
the
Big
Red
Liquors
and
the
Subaru
dealership,
and
one
of
the
suggestions.
F
One
of
the
proposals
that
we
would
have
as
part
of
this
development
is
to
turn
that
area
into
a
Rideshare
parking
facility
in
partnership
with
the
city
of
Bloomington
or
in
at
least
it
to
the
city
of
Bloomington.
That
would
allow
commuters,
coming
in
from
the
east
side
of
the
County,
from
Columbus
Bartholomew
Jackson
County.
To
have
a
space
where
they
could
joined
together
and
ride
as
a
group
into
the
downtown
area
or
the
IU
campus.
This
is
an
idea
and
and
put
in
use
in
various
metropolitan
areas
and
seems
to
be
quite
successful.
F
The
idea
would
be
to
reduce
pressure
on
existing
parking
in
the
downtown
area
and
also
to
reduce
traffic
congestion.
From
this
point
on
East
3rd
Street
to
Points
West,
in
into
the
the
parking
or
into
town,
there
are
also
approximately
30
seven
parking
spaces
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
that
would
be
or
could
be
designated
for
electric
vehicles.
F
There
is,
to
my
knowledge,
very
few
EV
charging
stations
on
the
east
side
and
even
fewer
that
are
generally
available
to
the
public.
We
have
reached
out
made
initial
contacts
with
Tesla
and
and
their
organization
to
determine
the
feasibility
of
this
type
of
use,
but
certainly
between
those
two
uses
we're
talking
about
63
parking
spaces
that
are
converted
from
you
know.
F
Otherwise,
you
know
the
current
historic
use
to
something:
that's
a
bit
more
vibrant
and
a
bit
more
useful,
a
bit
more
in
in
step
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
the
goals
for
traffic
flow
throughout
the
city.
There
are
other
conceptual
issues
in
terms
of
connecting
the
existing
bike
path
on
Third
Street
up
into
the
facility
connecting
it
on
both
to
Longview
Drive
and
to
Kingston,
allowing
for
continuity
of
bicyclists
and
more
options
to
get
to
other
residential
and
and
commercial
commercial
developments.
There
are
spots
picked
out
for
bicycle
racks
and
Facilities.
F
Academy
Sports
typically
maintain
a
community
facility
which
could
occupy
several
of
what
are
now
designated
as
parking
spaces.
These
are
places
that
are
designated
for
not-for-profit
organizations
to
do
fundraisers
to
have
meetings
to
do
you
know
sales
and
different
things,
and
that
again
is
is
in
the
the
spirit
of
community
participation
and
using
these
designated
areas
for
things
other
than
a
traditional
traditional
parking.
F
The
transit
station
is
about
a
half
a
mile
away
on
Longview
Drive,
so
the
idea
is
to
put
into
play
a
number
of
potential
uses
that
meet
the
the
various
standards
they're,
not
injurious
to
public
health,
safety
or
morals,
Public
Welfare,
quite
the
opposite.
These
facilities
would
be
public
improvements
and
and
provide
increased
Public
Access.
F
They
would
also
contribute
towards
eliminating
the
risk
of
the
further
decay
of
this
building
if,
if
or
this
property,
if
Academy
Sports
is
not
selected
as
a
tenant
because
of
growth
restrictions
in
terms
of
the
use
and
the
value
of
the
Jason
Property
area.
Again,
these
proposed,
or
these
proposals
from
proposed
uses
within
the
parking
facilities,
would
would
be
welcoming,
increase
public
activity
and
would
not
decrease
the
value
or
the
the
use
of
the
J,
the
property
in
the
adjacent
area,
and
then.
F
Lastly,
your
your
standard
as
to
the
strict
application
of
the
udvo
would
result
in
Practical
difficulties
in
in
implementing
these
kinds
of
improvements
if
those
spaces
are
eliminated
entirely
in
order
to
meet
a
rather
arbitrary
calculation
of
ratio
to
Square
from
square
footage
to
to
parking
facilities.
So
what
we're
asking
is
that
the
the
discussion
as
to
this
proposal
and
this
location
and
this
proposed
tenant
continue
and
that
these
these
these
ideas
be
be
well
received
in
terms
of
the
overall
improvements
and
developments
to
the
property
which
I
will
let
John
speak
to.
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My
name
is
John
kraniak
I'm
senior,
vice
president
of
real
estate,
store
design
and
construction
from
Academy,
Sports
and
Outdoors
we're
located
in
Katy
Texas.
So,
yes,
ma'am
great
I'll
write
my
name
down
afterwards.
So
thank
you
for
the
introduction.
I'm
here
really
just
to
first
off,
say:
I'm
honored
to
be
here.
Academy,
Sports
and
Outdoors
is
an
85
year
old
company.
We
were
a
private
company
for
a
long
time
born
and
raised
in
Texas.
G
We
are
extremely
excited
about
Bloomington
Indiana,
we're
excited
about
the
state
of
Indiana.
In
the
last
couple
months,
we've
opened
up
a
couple
stores
we
opened
up
in
Lafayette,
we
opened
up
in
Westfield.
We
have
a
couple.
Other
stores
under
construction
in
Indianapolis
and
Bloomington
is
the
next
logical
progression
for
us.
G
We've
been
Market
planning
this
opportunity
and
looking
in
the
town
of
Bloomington
for
a
couple
years,
we
find
that
the
location
of
this
building,
where
it
sits
within
the
community,
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
put
our
best
foot
forward
now,
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
little
bit
of
parameters.
Our
typical
store
is
between
60
and
70
000
square
feet,
so
this
store
is
a
little
bit
smaller.
However,
we
operate
all
the
way
down
to
40
000
square
feet.
G
We
know
that
in
that
50
you
know
50
to
60
000
square
feet
range.
We
could
bring
our
best
foot
forward,
which
means
we
can
make
the
best
offerings
for
every
community
that
we
go
into
and
that's
our
goal
for
all
communities
that
we
enter
as
we
think
about
Bloomington
and
the
opportunity
to
take
over
this
building,
which
is
in
a
current
state
of
disrepair,
we're
prepared
to
invest
significant
money,
multi-million
dollar
investment
to
completely
refurbish
the
interior
and
exterior
together
with
our
landlord
partner,
the
the
exterior
and
the
parking
areas.
Now.
G
A
A
H
A
H
I'll
make
it
fast,
so
we
came
down,
we
met
with
planning.
We
did
provide
some
data
about
our
our
other
stores
and
the
use
of
those
parking,
those
parking
spaces.
We
can
talk
about
that.
We
thought
we
thought
that
thinking
about
how
to
program
this
parking
lot
that
might
achieve
some
of
the
goals
of
Bloomington
would
be
the
best
path
forward
for
us
and
for
the
for
the
landlord,
and
so
that
is
what
those
conversations
are.
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D
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D
Yeah,
absolutely
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
are
certainly
allowed
and
required
in
certain
situations.
When
the
parking
spaces
are
over
a
certain
number,
they
don't
they
don't
they
aren't
excluded.
I
mean
they're
still
counted
as
parking
spaces,
but
they
can
absolutely
convert
any
or
all
of
the
spaces
on
the
site
to
electric
vehicle
charging
stations,
and
that
would
certainly
be
allowed.
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I
D
Yes,
so
we
we
didn't,
there
is
not
a
ride
share
exception.
Certainly
there
are
lots
of
locations
around
Bloomington
that
offer
ride
shares
within
their
parking
lot,
but
that
still
counts
as
parking
against
that
maximum
number.
However,
they
want
to
if
somebody
wants
to
lease
their
parking
spaces
that
is
completely
up
to
them,
but
the
maximum
number
of
spaces
that
are
allowed
on
the
property
are
based
on
the
use.
That
is
there.
D
So
you
know
in
this
case
here.
You
know
this
use
as
a
retail
use.
You
know
it's
allowed
100
in
69
parking
spaces
if
the
petitioner
wants
to
lease
some
of
those,
for
whatever
reason,
that's
certainly
their
right,
but
there
is
not
a
separate
use
of
Rideshare
that
you
know
gives
them
additional
parking
allowance.
H
D
Yeah
absolutely
so,
as
we
discussed
in
some
of
our
preliminary
meetings
previously,
so
a
parking
study
would
be
going
out
to
these
locations
and
doing
account
every
hour
for
multiple
days
showing
the
actual
number
of
cars
that
are
in
the
lot.
So
it's
you
know
it's
going
to
be
essential
in
these
situations
that
it
is
a
standalone,
a
lot
that
is
not
shared
with
other
businesses,
but
an
actual
study
showing
the
number
of
cars
in
the
lot
every
hour
for
multiple
days.
H
Well,
thinking
about
the
the
answer,
so
the
answer
is
we
we
do
track
exactly
what's
coming
in
and
out
of
our
stores
and
out
of
our
parking
lots.
The
data
that
we've
provided
is
based
on
that
now,
if
it's,
if
it's
hourly
that
could
be
provided
it's
it's.
It's
well
known.
It's
well
known
at
Academy,
I
I
do
not
have
those
figures
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
those
figures
we
do
know
the
traffic
flow
at
the
stores.
H
A
H
C
Direct
you
to
page
one
of
the
of
the
note
from
them
yeah
yeah.
So
this
is
to
the
petitioner,
so
the
regional
examples
and
it's
parenthetically,
it
says
predicted
number
of
peak
days.
So
these
numbers
that
are
provided
are,
are
these
predicted
or
are
these
actual
accounts
that
you've
done?
Is
this
hard
data
or
is
this
predicted
data.
G
These
are,
these
are
illustrative
numbers
based
on
these
real
stores.
Okay,
so
I
I
did
not
commission
a
traffic
study
engineer
at
three
of
these
locations.
We
have
270
locations,
we
have
peak
times
of
the
year.
If
you
look
at
our
SEC
filings,
you
can
see
the
fluctuations
when
it
happens
during
the
year,
and
so
we
know
when
we
have
those
Peaks
and
valleys
in
our
customer
base
and
what
that
does
in
terms
of
putting
stress
on
our
parking
fields.
C
G
A
A
J
A
J
A
couple
things
we
want
to
support
the
project.
You
know
the
last
six
seven
years.
It's
it's
become
a
homeless
hangout.
You
can
go
there
any
given
night.
There's
tents
set
up
they're
living
on
the
side,
they're
living
in
between
our
space
and
the
location.
We're
talking
about
it's
just
bad
business.
J
We've
had
multiple
vandalisms
we've
actually
had
a
fire
on
that
property,
where
people
that
set
it
on
fire
they've
also
been
breaking
and
entering
stealing
stuff
out
of
our
cars,
because
I'm
a
car
dealer
in
our
sense
I,
think
I
said
that
another
thing
is
as
far
as
EV
station
I
love
the
idea
of
the
EV
station.
We
have
four
charging
stations
at
our
dealership.
Typically,
on
any
given
day,
we
have
lines
out
the
door
waiting
to
get
these
cars
charged.
J
J
J
Typically,
when
you
were
talking
about
the
ride
share,
if
you
were
to
drive
through
there,
typically
on
any
given
day,
there's
30
to
40
cars
parked
there,
they
they
show
up
between
six
in
the
morning
and
eight
in
the
morning
and
they
park
there
and
they
catch
either.
The
buses
picks
them
up
right
across
the
street
or
they
get
a
somebody,
picks
them
up
and
takes
them
into
I.
J
I'm
just
checking
my
notes,
Here
yeah,
so
we
are,
we
are.
We
are
recommending
that
you
guys
allow
this
project
to
go
forward.
I've
been
to
Academy
Sports
in
Terre,
Haute
I
went
there
for
around
Christmas
time
to
buy
some
items
and
when
I
said,
when
you
guys
were
talking
about
parking
spots,
I
don't
know
how
many
parking
spots
are
in
Terre
Haute.
But
if
there's
300
there's
310
cars
in
the
parking
spots
we
had
to
park
across
the
street
and
walk
over
to
get
the
chance
to
go
shopping
in
there.
J
K
Thank
you,
I
guess,
I'm
speaking
to
this
site
plan,
which
I
I
really
like
the
site
plan,
the
way
it
looks,
it
seems
like
it's
really
broken
up
the
number
of
parking
spaces.
My
former
career
before
IU
was
in
Kmart
Corporation,
so
I'm
familiar
with
employee
parking
Etc
the
EV
parking.
Fantastic,
can't
wait
to
use
it
frankly,
so
that
would
be
great
I.
K
Think
speaking
as
a
Parkridge
resident
and
I've
talked
to
many
of
the
residents
in
Park
Ridge
we're
anxious
to
get
somebody
in
this
building,
not
a
days
longer
due
to
some
items
that
came
up
with
the
housing
challenge,
folks
that
are
in
that
area.
A
lot
of
vandalism,
sorry
Kroger,
but
a
terrible
job
that
Kroger
has
done
on
keeping
the
building
in
good
shape.
It's
totally
overgrown
the
bushes
Etc.
So
we're
really
anxious
to
get
Academy,
Sports
and
Outdoors
into
that
building.
K
I
understand
Eric's
concern
environmentally
I,
consider
myself
an
environmentalist
in
terms
of
heat
island,
but
I'd
flip
that
the
other
way
and
say
if
we
ask
the
petitioner
to
remove
asphalt,
assuming
that
that
asphalt
would
be
transported
to
the
Sycamore
landfill
via
Republic
Services
in
Terre
Haute
Indiana,
which
I've
stood
on
top
of
I've
taken
students
there
that's
60
miles
away
to
transport.
All
that
asphalt.
This
seems
really
unnecessary,
granted
taking
out
asphalt,
creating
Green
Space,
maybe
there's
a
pay
off
down
the
road,
but
looking
at
this
site
plan
today,
it's
well
thought
out.
K
Granted
a
lot
of
the
spaces
will
be
full
at
you
know
the
wind
at
politically
correct
the
winter
break,
the
Christmas
season
Etc,
but
I
think
the
way
it's
broken
down
with
people
that
are
using
that
site
to
then
trans
you
know,
transport
themselves
downtown
or
to
campus.
Have
EV
parking,
Etc
I
think
it's
reasonable
the
site
plan
the
way
it
is
I
just
think
it's
removing
asphalt
from
a
parking
lot.
It
already
exists.
I
walk
through
that
lot,
almost
every
day
to
take
a
peek
at
the
cars
in
the
parking
lot.
K
It's
kind
of
fun
to
look
at
those
cars
and
I
I.
Don't
get
the
sense
of
I'm
walking
through
a
sea
of
asphalt,
I,
just
don't
there's
plenty
of
sidewalks,
it's
already
built
in
the
the
plan,
and
it
just
seems
like
it's
really
not
necessary
I
would
I
would
rather
see
it
environmentally
stay.
The
way
it
is
and
then
have
the
site
plan
put
in
it
would
have
less
impact
in
terms
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
I'd
like
you
to
consider
that
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
ask.
Thank
you
very
much.
L
L
L
However,
one
of
the
things
I
think
about
is
there
really
haven't
been
too
many
opportunities
to
fill
that
space,
so
it's
it
is
just
sitting
there
and
not
getting
any
better
concerning
the
neighbors,
and
so
this
seems
like
a
really
great
opportunity
and
me
I
think
of
things
in
a
larger
sense.
It
seems
like
a
really
great
opportunity
for
us
to
have
this
viable,
a
business.
It's
going
to
provide
some
jobs,
it's
going
to
provide
some
things
related
to
the
environment,
such
as
the
electronic
charging
stations.
L
M
M
M
91.:
okay:
we've
got
a
great
opportunity
to
keep
the
homeless
out
of
a
area
that
they're
quite
frequently
frequenting.
It
looks
like
the
tenant
the
future
possible
tenant,
which
I
don't
know,
has
offered
some
solutions.
The
Rideshare
parking,
the
evu
charging,
which
I
had
a
Tesla
had
a
real
nice
Tesla,
my
wife
loved
it.
M
We
sold
it
there's
not
enough
e-view
parking
in
Bloomington,
the
the
former
landlord
is,
has
a
Tesla
charging
station
at
Fresh
time,
which
has
brought
a
lot
of
good
to
the
community
because
that's
where
we
charged
that
I'm
not
sure
what
charging
system
you're
looking
at.
But
it's
a
well
needed
needed
thing,
especially
on
the
east
side
of
town.
We
we
did
sell
our
vehicle
because
there's
just
I,
don't
think
the
charging
stations
were
frequent
enough.
The
car
dealer
guy
done
a
great
job.
M
Speaking
of
that
so
anyway,
I
don't
know
what
more
you
could
ask
for
possible
tenant
to
come
to
our
town
in
a
vacant
store
that
has
existing
parking
since
1991
and
they're,
offering
all
these
great
benefits
to
you
guys.
The
the
Rideshare
parking
is
brilliant
they're,
saying
we're,
giving
up
something
to
help
the
community
and
we're
actually
investing
in
EV
parking
that
we
already
have
on
the
west
side
of
town,
so
I
commend
them
and
and
I
think
I'm
full
in
support
of
it.
I
think
most
people
here
are
full
in
support
of
it.
A
N
Well,
we
are
here
to
support.
We
are
in
hospitality
industries
also,
we
are
in
retail
Industries
and
we
know
the
value
of
parking
lots
and
with
the
IU's
game
schedule,
there
are
many
weekends
parent
comes
from
out
of
town
and
they
par
they
are
requesters.
That
hey,
can
we
park
here
and
we
can
go
to
the
ball
game
or
somewhere
in
the
college,
without
having
any
business
with
us,
they
still
request.
So
the
share
parking
idea
is
wonderful.
You
know
we
are
with
it.
It's
very,
very
good.
N
The
EV
parking
it's
more
important,
also
in
the
future
Industries.
You
know
many
companies
will
say
in
a
few
years
that
they're
going
to
stop
making
gas
vehicles
so
EV
parkings
it's
needed
earlier.
There
was
someone
mentioned
about
that
tent
and
also
homeless
people
when
they
are
looking
for
the
place
to
sleep
and
a
closed
business
are
not
looking
good
at
all.
We
had
one
project
at
Rogers
and
Country
Club,
it
was
I
saw
many
customers
even
after
three
years
we
opened
the
store.
They
still
tell
us
that.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
N
O
A
general
dentist
I
have
my
office
in
the
shops
at
Kingston,
so
looking
out
my
front
door,
I've
looked
at
the
empty
building
for
the
six
years.
It's
been
empty,
I
haven't
seen
the
site
plan
until
tonight,
but
I
think
it
looks
great
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
this
site
developed
as
quickly
as
possible,
really
the
the
I'm
going
to
Echo
a
lot
of
the
things
my
that
you've
already
heard,
there's
been
it's
been
a
derelict
building.
Kroger
has
put
nothing
into
taking
care
of
it.
O
Having
homeless,
people
out
in
front
of
my
office
has
been
a
detriment
we
have.
We
did
a
year
ago
we
had
a
little
excess
parking
in
our
in
front
of
my
shop.
We
don't
have
that
anymore.
We
have
a
busy
almost
fully
occupied
parking
lot.
All
the
time
now
so
I
think
that
Academy
needs
the
spots
that
they're
they've
talked
about
on
their
on
their
their
data
and
there's
not
going
to
be
any
overflow
available
in
front
of
my
office.
O
P
Yes,
first
I'd
like
to
thank
the
landlord
for
your
investment
in
our
community,
which
is
which
is
been
big
and
also
I'd
like
to
thank
Academy
Sports
for
your
interest
in
looking
to
invest
in
our
community.
So
I
just
really
really
appreciate
that
and
I
love
that
you
love
that
your
interest
in
our
community
I
support
the
the
petitioner's
request
and
I.
Ask
that
you
you
that
you
that
you
approve
this
variance.
First,
I
I,
don't
agree
with
the
findings.
P
It
says
that
it's
interest
to
public
health
safety
and
moral
to
the
community
and
I
I
don't
agree.
The
building
was
built
to
code
when
it
was
first
developed
and
the
only
thing
that's
changed
is
it
was
vacant
and
and
because
of
the
economy.
You
know
we
had
the
Great
Recession
of
08.
Unfortunately
Marsh
you
know
closed
and
it's
a
big
space
to
fill.
P
It's
not
an
easy
space
to
fill,
and
so
just
because
it's
vacant
and
and
because
it
was
built
to
code,
originally
we're
asking
them
to
bring
it
up
to
code
today,
which
is
just
a
big
added
cost
for
either
the
tenant
or
the
landlord.
An
unneeded
cost,
sometimes
it
could
be
fifty
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
It
could
add
to
a
project,
would
not
surprise
me,
and
also
this
is
also
a
resource.
P
That's
already
there
I
served
on
the
historic
preservation
Commission,
and
not
that
this
is
historic,
but
something
that
we
heard
a
lot
was
not
not
do
away
with
resources
that
have
already
been
put
into
a
project.
So
this
is
already
there
and-
and
it's
not
like
they're,
adding
they're
asking
for
additional
parking.
It's
just
like
utilize.
The
parking
that's
already
existing,
so
being
a
local
commercial,
real
estate
broker,
something
that
I
struggle
with
is
when
you
have
a
new
tenant
with
a
permitted
use,
and
then
you
and
so
they're
not
changing
anything.
P
It's
zoned
right
and
you're,
asking
for
a
code,
review
and
I
just
feel
like
it's
not
like
they're,
adding
on
to
the
building
or
any
any
additional
construction.
It's
just
it's
just
a
it's
just
a
new
tenet
with
a
permitted
use.
So
it's
just
something
personally,
I,
don't
like
about
the
code
I'll
just
mention
that
to
you
guys,
and
so
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
vacant.
P
E
Q
Q
Q
We
feel
that
supporting
this
variance
is
a
common
sense
idea,
as
the
parking
already
exists
and
is
appropriately
sized
for
this
retail
operation.
While
the
chamber
supports
the
unified
development
ordinance,
the
Udo
and
believes
that
parking
standards
are
a
valuable
tool
for
managing
growth
in
our
community.
We
believe
that
any
good
plan
should
be
nimble
and
allow
for
flexibility
when
it's
in
the
community's
best
interest
as
it
stands.
The
Udo
allows
large
retailers
to
provide
3.3
parking
spaces
for
every
one
thousand
square
feet
of
gross
floor
area.
Q
Q
Q
As
these
examples
show,
a
lack
of
adequate
parking
could
lead
to
safety
concerns
and
have
a
negative
impact
on
business.
We
Believe,
an
effective
community
plan
must
allow
for
flexibility
to
suit
the
needs
of
our
community
so
that
it
may
grow
and
prosper.
We
firmly
believe
that
a
variance
in
this
matter
would
allow
Bloomington
to
attract
a
Top
Sporting
Goods
retailer
fill
a
gap
in
the
market,
employee
residents
and
Revitalize
a
vacant
commercial
space.
Q
A
R
Thank
you
for
your
time,
I'd
like
to
make
three
site-specific
arguments
in
favor
of
the
petition.
Then
I'd
also
like
to
make
some
general
comments
about
the
state
of
the
market
and
the
need
for
parking.
So
first
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
this
site
is
an
edge.
There's
a
commercial
trade
area
immediately
to
the
east.
We
transition
immediately
to
single-family
homes.
We
have
consistently
heard
we've
had
a
lot
of
changes
in
in
policy
and
land
use
policy
in
Bloomington.
R
We
want
density,
we
won't
want
density,
we
want
parking,
we
don't
want
pet
parking
I'm
certain
the
pendulum
will
swing
again
and
in
the
future
we
will
change
our
parking
ordinances,
I'm,
100
sure
of
it.
We
everyone
here
understands
climate
crisis,
I
think
that
there's
some
legitimate
disagreement
that
this
is
actually
and
I'd
love
to
see
some
data.
You
know
you're
asking
for
data
about
parking
I'd
like
to
see
some
data
about
whether
this
actually
advances
climate
goals
that
we
all
agree
are
important.
R
Having
said
that,
this
is
an
edge
and
I
think
there's
always
been
consistent
agreement
that
keeping
commercial
uses
separate
from
single
family
uses
is
important,
and
so
we
want
a
buffer.
We
want
sufficient
parking
so
that
that
those
uses
those
trucks,
those
whatevers
don't
spill
out
into
the
adjacent
neighborhood.
We
want
to
keep
a
segregation
of
land
uses.
It's
number
one
number
two.
R
The
argument
that's
frequently
made
by
staff
in
support
of
parking
maximums
is
that
there
is.
There
are
parking
garages
downtown
or
there's
on
street
parking
Etc.
It
doesn't
exist
here.
There
is
no
on-street
parking
on
Third
Street,
there's,
there's
no
on
on
street
parking
on
Longview
Etc,
and
so
it's
important
to
note
that
the
parking
that
is
going
to
be
used
by
this
user
is
going
to
be
in
this
parking
field
and
in
this
parking
field
alone
we
don't
want
it
to
spill
into
the
neighborhood.
R
R
R
I
can,
and
so
yes,
we
do
need
to
think
about
some
of
these
climate
goals.
We
want
to
encourage
Transit
Etc,
but
forcing
bad
design
that
results
in
empty
buildings
is
not
good
public
policy
and
so
big
picture
here
we've
got
empty
buildings.
Our
economy
is
not
going
in
the
right
direction.
We
don't
want
more
empty
buildings,
whether
we
like
it
or
not.
Having
sufficient
parking
is
an
important
part
of
of
retail
in
general,
and
this
particular
user
in
particular.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
S
Do
I
saw
this
in
the
paper
and
I
got
real
excited.
We
have
an
empty
building
and
it's
like
we're.
Gonna
have
somebody
move
into
it
and
I
thought
we're
not
going
to
build
a
new
building,
we're
going
to
use
a
building
that
already
exists,
then
I
started
reading
like
we
want
to
turn
it
down
because
of
80
parking
spaces.
S
Well,
if
they
would
have
built
a
brand
new
building,
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
more
con
blacktop
on
the
ground,
so
I.
That's
why
I
came
decided
to
come
talk
because
I
thought
we
really
need
to
do
this
because
it's
an
empty
building
and
we're
filling
it
up.
We're
not
building
something
new
we're
using
what
we
already
have
the
parking
lot's
already
there
and
I'm
sitting
here,
listening
I
thought:
well,
we
want
more
bicycles.
S
What
are
they
going
to
sell
bicycles
and
maybe
they
give
because
I
know
sometimes
dicks
runs
out
of
bicycles,
I've
been
there,
don't
have
any
bicycles,
so
maybe
they're
more
bicycles,
more
people
buy
bicycles
and
ride,
and
then
we
talked
about
the
parking.
Well,
you
guys
have
been
to
the
mall
around
Christmas.
Haven't
you
that
parking
lot
is
totally
full
and
so
they're
needing
the
parking
for
their
big
times
of
the
year,
so
I'm
in
support
of
it?
Thank
you.
T
A
B
U
I
know
this
site
well:
I
used
to
shop
at
service
I
used
to
shop
at
Marsh.
It
was
a
wonderful
grocery
store
before
they
finally
went.
Belly
Up
I've
watched
Marsh
deteriorate
since
it's
been
the
marsh
building.
Since
it's
been
empty,
I
see
graffiti
I,
see
the
parking,
lots
and
there's
actually
a
fair
amount
of
landscaping
deteriorate
too
for
lack
of
use,
and
we
really
really
need
a
business.
U
I
also
use
Kingston
regularly.
So
I
get
to
see
this
on
my
my
way
by
and
I'm
puzzled
by
some
of
the
comments
that
were
said
by
staff
in
the
very
beginning
about
the
Sea
of
asphalt
and
it
not
being
friendly
to
buses
and
bicycles
and
stuff,
it
has
sidewalks
usable
sidewalks.
In
fact,
I
have
my
car
serviced
at
Royal.
East
I
use
the
sidewalk
coming
to
and
fro
there's
a
bus
right
on
Kingston.
If
this
would
go
well
with
the
project
and
Longview
has
bike
lanes
and
has
lots
of
bicycles.
A
F
For
just
one
point
of
clarification,
there
was
there
was
discussion
and
I'm,
not
sure
I
follow
the
logic,
but
as
to
the
80-some
parking
spots
that
may
be
available
on
the
adjacent
property,
which
is
also
owned
by
one
of
the
owners
of
this
property
and
I'm
unclear
as
to
how
that
would
play
into
to
your
decision
this
evening.
But
you
should
be
aware
of
a
couple
of
things
that
there
are
active
buildings
within
the
Kensington
shops,
one
of
a
dialysis
center,
and
certainly
you
don't
expect
those
folks
to
have
to
park.
F
The
other
thing
is
that
there
is
a
reciprocal
easement
agreement
in
place
between
these
two
park
or
these
two
commercial
uses
that
allows
the
facility
that
Academy
wishes
to
occupy
a
total
of
four
space
or
excuse
me
10
spaces
in
Kensington
shops,
so
Dr
Arnold
in
the
dialysis
center,
and
these
these
tenants
and
their
customers
their
patients,
have
a
legal
right
to
enforce
that,
so
that
if
there
is
Overflow
parking
from
Academy
from
one
location,
that
is
from
the
academy
space
to
to
the
Kensington
chops.
There
is
a
legal
mechanism
to
to
prevent
that.
F
So
the
notion
that
there's
80
I'm
just
concerned
that
there's
an
impression
that
there
are
80
spaces
available
potentially
to
customers
of
Academy,
because
they're
on
an
adjacent
business
is,
it
was
confusing
to
me
so
I
thought.
I
would
just
comment
and
clear
up
any
confusion.
If
there
is
among
the
board
members.
G
A
G
G
If
you
ask
me
to
undertake
a
study
and
do
that
today,
it's
not
going
to
yield
anything
fruitful,
particularly
because
it's
not
one
of
our
peak
times.
One
of
the
other
gentlemen
said
it.
You
know
during
Thanksgiving,
November,
Christmas
and,
quite
frankly,
into
January.
We've
got
people
that
are
picking
up
grills
they're
picking
up
these
12-foot
boats
called
John
boats,
they're
picking
up
full
weight
sets
things
like
that.
G
A
C
This
is
a
good
staff.
Okay,
second
paragraph
Eric
of
your
report.
Since
the
previous
use
within
the
building
was
removed
and
the
building
has
been
vacant
for
more
than
12
months,
the
establishment
of
any
use
is
considered
a
change
in
use
from
that
statement.
If,
if
this
petitioner
had
come
to
do
this
development
within
the
12
months,
they
wouldn't
have
to
go
through
a
request,
they
would
have
been
able
to
keep
the
spaces.
Is
that
correct.
D
D
C
C
B
Quickly,
just
in
response
to
it,
Mr
dinsford's
confusion,
something
we
usually
talk
about
here
in
these
types
of
variances
and
I.
Think
Eric
did
a
good
job
covering
it,
but
just
to
clarify
again
and
Mr
harstad
mentioned
it,
but
not
all
of
it,
which
is
something
that
we
look
at
is.
Are
there
opportunities
for
public
parking
near
the
use?
Are
there
opportunities
for
street
parking
near
the
use
and
are
there
opportunities
for
shared
parking
near
the
use?
B
So
when
Mr
grulich
is
mentioning
that
this
particular
property
owner
also
owns
an
adjacent
property
with
parking?
That's.
Why
he's
mentioning
that?
Whether
or
not
this
property
owner
has
agreements
on
this
site
or
the
other
site
that
preclude
you
know
that
that
make
it
hard
for
them
to
do
what
they
want
to
do
on
the
property?
That's
not
really.
D
To
businesses,
that's
a
that's
a
great
question
and
so
the
the
parking
standards
that
we
have
in
our
code.
You
know
they're
they're,
not
just
arbitrary
numbers.
You
know
when
we
went
through
the
updates
of
the
Zone
code
and
looked
at
parking
maximums.
We
looked
at
standards
across
the
country
at
communities
and
Zoning
codes
throughout
the
country
of
the
standards
and
the
numbers
that
they
used.
D
D
You
know,
because
when
you
you,
when
you
park
for
just
that
one
busy
time
a
year,
you're
gonna
have
most
of
your
parking
sitting
empty
for
most
of
the
year,
so
that
results
in
all
of
these
negative
consequences
that
our
parking
maximums
are
trying
to
accomplish,
which
are
you
know,
reducing
the
amount
of
excess
asphalt.
That's
just
sitting
there.
It's
creating
this
perception
that
there
will
always
be
parking
anywhere.
You
want
and
there's
parking
available
all
the
time
which
decreases
your
likelihood
to
use
alternative
transportation.
D
So
you
know
these
are
things
that
were
embedded
in
our
comprehensive
plan
and
our
Udo
was
written
to
promote
those.
So
there
are
requirements
that,
when
a
property,
you
know
it's
been
developed
prior
to
the
current
code.
That's
great
it's
grandfathered,
but
there
are
going
to
be
situations
that
you
have
to
bring
it
into
compliance
with
our
current
standards.
So
you
know
those
standards
and-
and
certainly
is
the
board
probably
is
aware
of.
This
have
been
very
heavily
discussed
at
the
playing
commission
city
council
level,
and
these
are
the
standards
that
are
in
place.
D
D
You
know
just
lookings
anecdotally,
at
some
of
the
adjacent
properties.
Kroger
dicks,
very
similar
size
store,
have
parking
within
our
parking
maximums.
So
you
know
they've
got
them.
The
burden
proof
is
on
the
petition
of
the
show
that
this
use
is
different
and
they've
got
a
need
that
is
different,
unique
to
them.
D
So
that
is
where
our
struggle
has
been
and
why
we
did
not
recommend
approval
of
this,
because
no
information
has
been
given
when
I
met
with
the
petitioner
over
a
month
and
a
half
ago,
I
told
them
to
prepare
a
parking
study
showing
a
demonstrated
need
so
they've
had
time
to
put
together
that
information,
as
they
indicated
now,
is
not
that
peak
time.
You
know
their
peak
time
is
Christmas,
you
know,
and
that's
not
the
season
that
we're
aiming
for.
That's
not
the
standard
that
things
are
based
on
is:
what's
your
one-time
maximum
use.
A
I
I
have
a
follow-up
question.
Please
for
the
petitioner,
if
you
could
some,
if
you,
if
you
could
please
step
to
the
microphone
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understood.
So
you
you
have
begun
the
permitting
process
and
if
there
isn't
a
favorable
decision
this
evening,
you
feel
as
if
that
that's
an
unworkable
solution.
If
we
were
to
ask
for
the
backup
information
you
should
buy,
you
basically
provided
kind
of
a
summary
and
it
sounds
like
you
have
the
data.
G
So
I
think
what
I
understood
in
earlier
was:
if,
if
you
wanted
us
to
undertake,
you
know
a
hire,
a
traffic
engineer
and
do
a
study
like
that.
What
I'm
saying
is:
that's
that
will
put
this.
You
know
the
timing's
not
going
to
work
and
I
know
the
gentleman
who
just
spoke
said.
You
know
the
code
isn't
designed
for
one
time
a
year,
but
how
would
you
all
feel
if
you're
going
to
come
to
our
store
at
Thanksgiving
back
to
school?
G
You
know
July
4th
before
tailgates
and
you
can't
get
a
parking
spot,
you
know,
and
so
for
us
it
is
important.
You
know
I
think
it's
we
view
this
as
the
parking
spots
are
there
right
and
like
I
said
the
Box
itself
isn't
ideal.
I
know
I'm,
not
answering
a
question.
I
will
in
a
moment
so
so
the
timing
wouldn't
work
I
could
I
would
be
willing.
G
You
know
to
confer
with
counsel
I
can't
give
you
that
answer
now,
but
what
I
am
saying
is
overall,
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
lengthy
process
that
goes
on,
you
know,
I
was
hoping
to
come
here.
You
know
came
in
from
Houston
this
morning.
I
was
hoping
to
come
here.
With
result
that
says
we
can
go
forward
as
planned
because
we
are
in
for
permits.
We've
made
Financial
commitments
towards
the
materials
that
we
need
for
the
building
and
I'd
like
to
get.
You
know
we'd
like
to
get
moving.
G
H
Goes
back
to
the
issue
of
Kroger
and
what
would
have
happened
if,
if
the
petitioner
would
have
come
forward
on
day,
one,
the
reason
that
nothing
has
happened
since
March
closed
is
because
Kroger
bought
their
lease.
This
is
an
issue
with
Kroger.
They
bought
their
lease.
They
were
happy
to
sit
in
this
dark
building.
We
came
to
the
landlord
a
couple
of
years
ago.
I
know
that
I
know
that
other
retailers
have
come
previous
to
that.
Kroger
has
never
been
willing
to
give
up
this
lease.
H
There
is
a
deal
on
the
table
that
Kroger
is
willing
to
sign
tonight
that
that
is.
That
is
the
urgency.
It's
part
of
the
urgency
on
our
part
in
order
to
have
a
2024
store,
we
need
to
make
that
we
need
to
be
progressing
with
these
permits
and
it's
also
the
issue
with
the
landlord,
because
Kroger
is
in
control
of
the
building
today.
So
anyway,.
C
I'm
prepared
to
make
a
motion,
but
before
I
make
that
motion
I
wanted
to
just
make
a
couple
of
statements
as
to
why
I'm
going
to
make
that
motion
okay.
So
the
first
thing
is:
if
I've
left
this
conversation
correctly
and
just
please
one
of
you
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
idea
of
the
planned
EV
parking
and
charging
and
the
Rideshare
parking
I
do
want
it
to
be
clear
that
those
are
ideas.
Those
are
thoughts.
Those
are
suggestions.
V
Number
one
is
I
brought
the
first
I
believe
it's
the
first
EV
charging
station
to
Bloomington
Indiana
with
the
Tesla
facility
at
the
West
Side
fresh
time.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
more
now,
but
I
actually
did
that.
Nobody
asked
me
to
I
thought
it
was
the
right
thing
to
do
and
at
first
it
wasn't
used
much
now.
It's
used
a
lot
a
lot.
If
you
go
out
there,
the
other
thing
is
well.
C
V
Thing
will
commit
to
you
can
make
that
as
a
condition
we
will
commit
to
dedicate
that
spot,
not
with
the
city
of
Bloomington
I,
think
Tom
dansford
might
have
not
conferred
that
will
operate.
It
sign,
put
the
signs
up
and
we'll
commit
during
the
term
of
the
academy
lease
to
provide
that
space
for
ride.
Share
it's
the
right
thing
to
do.
We
have
some
form
of
that
now.
V
As
you
know,
the
parking
lot's
about
half
full
now
and
Kroger's,
even
though
they
at
least
it-
and
you
know,
I,
appreciate
them
and
I've
got
nothing
bad
to
say
about
Kroger
I
wish
that
they,
when
they
took
over
the
lease
they
would
have
opened
the
store
I
asked
them
several
times.
I
said
you
know
why
don't.
C
You
they
just
want
to
really
get
to
the
point
of
those
two
issues.
I
appreciate
the
comments,
but
you're
saying
that
you
would
actually
commit
to
doing
that
right
here.
My
question
then,
for
the
plan
EV
is
that
is
still
something
that
you're
saying
we'd
like
to
do
it,
but
it's
not
something.
That's
definitely
going
to.
C
V
C
Not
going
to
do
that,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
was
understanding.
It
correctly
now.
The
reason
I'm
I'm
saying
that
is
because
my
comment
before
I
make
a
motion
is
this
would
have
been
a
much
stronger
petition
if
you
had
come
forward
and
said,
we've
already
made
a
deal.
This
goes
through.
This
is
in
this
is
part
of
our
plan.
It's
going
to
happen.
That's
my
only
comment
is
that
would
have
been
really
strong
offers
and
ideas
are
one
thing,
but
it's
it's
just
a
proposal.
It's
that's.
C
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
going
forward
that
that's
your
desire,
that's
your
hope,
but
in
two
three
years
we
could
certainly
drive
by
there
and
none
of
that's
happening.
I,
okay,
and
if
you
want
to
do
that,
that's
great,
but
as
it
stands
now,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
it
correctly
and
you've.
You've
explained
it
to
me.
That's
terrific!
So
thank
you.
C
The
question
has
been
answered
and
it's
terrific
and
and
as
the
petitioner
said,
if
they
want
to
attach
that
that's
great,
but
I'm
only
doing
this
to
make
sure
it's
on
the
record
that
we
all
understand
that
that
is
not
part
of
this
plan
going
forward.
All
right,
if
you
do
it
great
okay,
that
was
the
one
thing
now.
The
second
thing
is
we.
We
are
required
by
our
charge
to
come
up
with
a
peculiar
instance
or
or
an
unusual
circumstance
as
to
why
we
would
Grant
this.
C
We
can't
just
say:
oh
it's
a
great
idea.
We
love
it.
Every
one
of
us
up
here
could
love
the
idea,
but
we
have
to
have
a
reason
to
go
against
code
all
right.
So
that's
why
I'm
asking
that
question,
but
I
will
say
that
what
is
unusual
to
me
before
I
make
the
motion
are
two
things.
One
is
that
if
you
had
come
forward
right
after
Martian
closed
within
a
12-month
period,
we
wouldn't
be
here
to
me.
C
That's
that's
a
compelling
argument
that
is
backed
up
by
my
second
point,
which
is
Kroger,
was
holding
this
up.
I
understand
that
they
own
the
lease
and
they
were
not
not
really
receptive
to
signing
a
lease
for
this
type
of
thing
until
now.
Okay,
so
those
are
two
things
that
could
be
seen
as
peculiar
could
be
or
could
be
argued,
that's
it
and
we
can
discuss.
We
can
then
argue
that
so
with
that
I
was
going
to
make
the
motion
to
Grant
the
variance
2723.
A
Okay,
I
will
just
say
that
the
the
Udo,
the
provision
for
anything
in
the
city,
that
if
a
use
is
discontinued
for
12
months-
and
that
applies
to
any
piece
of
property
we
may
not
like
it-
we
may
not
agree
with
it.
We
may
want
to
change
it,
but
that
happens
to
be
our
law
at
the
right
now
and
it
doesn't
just
simply
apply
to
this
to
this
property.
In
fact,
our
own
office,
we
made
significant
Investments
because
of
having
to
meet
plannings
requirements
for
partial
for
partial
plan.
A
You
know
compliance
and
it
was
costly
and
it
was
because
the
property
had
set
empty
for
12
months
and
yeah
and
that's
just
kind
of
the
the
part
of
the
landscape
here
at
the
moment,
so
I
I
I
can't
agree
with
that.
First,
for
that,
for
that
first
part
I
think
this
is
a
really
tough
one,
because
we
all
want
to
see
this
property
that
is
underutilized,
utilized
well
and
be
put
back
in
use
and
be
well
cared
for
and
of
destination.
There's
no
question
about
that.
A
So
I'm
I'm
wrestling
with
this,
because
I
have
also
heard
a
lot
of
cases
where
we
have
asked
our
petitioners
for
something
very
specific
and
they
have
provided
that
information
and
and
as
a
result
of
that,
we
have
been
able
to
give
them
a
variance
that
they
were
requesting.
In
this
case,
we're
asking
for
almost
a
hundred
more
parking
spaces
than
our
code
currently
allows.
A
It
is
not
a
marginal
amount,
so
I'm
finding
this
really
hard,
because
I
I
desperately
want
to
see
this
business
come
to
Bloomington
I'm,
going
to
throw
out
another
idea,
and-
and
that
is
on
the
statement
that
was
provided
by
Academy.
They
say
that
on
their
typical
Peak
utilization,
which
occurs
on
Fridays,
Saturdays
and
Sundays,
there
are
parking
spaces
are
approximately.
A
Their
needs,
are
approximately
228
parking
spaces
and
I
I
am
in
agreement
generally
with
the
way
that
our
our
code
does
frame
the
holidays
as
being
kind
of
an
exceptional
time.
And
yes,
we
do
have
busy
weekends
you
know
granted,
but
keeping
that
in
mind
I'm
wondering
if
there
could
not
be
a
another
number.
That
is
suggested
by
the
the
data
that
they
have
presented.
That
is
perhaps
not
the
full
the
full
amount.
In
fact,
that's
an
additional
39
spaces.
A
W
Wouldn't
typically
do
that
as
a
condition
of
approval.
You
would
want
the
evidence
to
be
presented
before
you
would
make
your
findings
in
a
in
a
case.
So
that
would
be
a
little
bit
unusual
to
say,
I,
suppose
you
could
do
a
condition
of
approval
requiring
requiring
the
petitioner
to
submit
something
to
you,
but
I
might
recommend
that
if,
if
that's
going
to
form
the
basis
for
a
finding
that
you
have
the
evidence
in
front
of
you
before
you
issue
the
finding
sure.
A
C
A
So
I
I
agree
with
that.
I
agree
with
that,
because
I
think
in
looking
at
at
so
you
know
looking
at
Bloomington
and
what
holes
there
are
in
our
networks.
I
think
that,
obviously
this
parking
lot
is
serving.
You
know
as
a
Rideshare
now
and
you
know,
I
think
there
there
could
be
some
some
evidence
for
that
yeah,
but
I
think
we're
a
little
shy.
C
A
I
To
me,
the
alternative
findings
of
fact
are
laid
out
in
page
10
and
11
from
the
petitioner
already
the
reasons
why
this
should
be
approved.
They've
specifically
outlines
all
the
rationale.
Item
number
three,
the
strict
application
of
the
Udo
will
result
in
Practical
difficulties.
To
me,
the
Crux
of
that
is
the
window
of
opportunity
that
this
is
within
and
I
feel
like
it's
a
small
one,
especially
if
you
have
a
corporation
like
Kroger
that
you're
dealing
with
who's
willing
to
negotiate
on
this
lease.
I
That's
the
opportunity
that
I
feel
like
put
putting
this
out
any
further,
risking
an
opportunity
of
a
business
like
this
to
come
in
to
make
the
impact
they
want.
I
think
they've
laid
it
out
very,
very
well
as
to
their
reasons
why
they
need
the
approval
and
the
Crux
of
that
to
me,
while
I
supp,
while
I,
why
I
will
support
it
is
because
Kroger's
willing
to
deal
right
now
without
Kroger.
If
you
go
to
another
tenant
potentially,
which
is
a
big
risk
on
everybody's
side.
T
T
I
just
want
it
noted
how
important
this
community
has
expressed,
how
interested
they
clearly
want
the
EB
Chargers
to
be
brought
to
this
area,
not
just
Tesla
I.
Think
an
investment
in
our
community
is
not
just
excluding
all
EV
owners
like
not
just
Tesla.
We
need
other
EV
charging
stations
and
several
of
the
people
that
spoke
tonight
and
online
really
made
it
clear
that
that
that
is
a
want
and
something
that
is
warranted.
T
C
W
B
D
I'm,
trying
to
you
know,
listen
to
some
of
the
comments
and
balance.
You
know
the
the
things
that
that
we
addressed
in
our
findings.
So
in
our
findings,
you
know
we
we
talked
about
some
of
the
the
impacts
from
the
excess
asphalt,
and
you
know
the
reasons
why
the
code
doesn't
allow
those
so
I've
tried
to
come
up
with
some
conditions
of
approval
that
mitigate
those
to
balance.
D
What
feels
like
might
be
some
balance
between
the
number
of
spaces
on
the
site
and
bringing
the
site
closer
to
compliance,
so
leaving
all
of
the
parking
spaces
on
the
site
results
in
almost
literally
no
improvements
to
the
property
whatsoever.
We
don't
get
any
additional
Green
Space.
We
don't
get
any
sidewalk
connections
from
the
building
to
the
street.
D
We
we
get
absolutely
nothing.
So
I've
tried
to
come
up
with
some
conditions
of
approval
here
that
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
raise
in
our
staff
report.
So
I'm
just
going
to
briefly
go
through
some
of
these
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands,
and
it's
certainly
up
to
the
board
if
they
want
to
adopt
any
of
these
within
their
their
recommendation,
so
condition.
D
One
is
that
the
petitioner
shall
work
with
staff
to
install
Landscaping
to
the
maximum
extent
possible
number
two
parking
spaces
within
the
lot
shall
be
arranged
to
meet
the
Udo
Landscaping
requirements
of
not
more
than
10
spaces
without
an
island.
So
that
is
a
current
standard
within
the
zoning
code
that
you
can't
have
more
than
10
spaces
in
a
row
without
an
island.
D
You
know
it
was
a
tall
canopy
Tree
in
it.
Also
in
other
situations,
we're
parking
maximum
for
variances
from
parking
maximums
have
been
granted.
We've
required
those
parking
spaces
over
the
maximum
to
be
in
permeable
pavers
to
help
offset
the
increased
runoff
as
a
result
of
the
asphalt
and
then
the
the
fourth
one
here
since
the
petitioner
has
not
provided
any
demonstrated,
need
or
study.
D
This
condition
says
that
a
study
shall
be
submitted
annually
for
five
years,
showing
a
monthly
need,
so
that
gives
them
the
opportunity.
You
know
at
their
opportunity
to
conduct
this
study
that
they
would
submit
to
us
that
we
would
then
evaluate
to
see
if
there
is
a
continued
demonstrated
need
and
come
back
to
the
board
if
more,
if
some
of
these
spaces
are
not
being
used
and
can
be
removed.
D
So
one
of
the
other
issues
that
I
raised
with
you
know
excess
asphalt
and
parking
on
a
property
is
it
discourages
and
is
a
hindrance
to
pedestrian
accessibility
to
a
building
from
the
street
so
condition
five
says
a
sidewalk
connection
from
Third
Street
to
the
building
shall
be
provided
through
the
site.
Somehow
we're
happy
to
work
with
them
to
come
up
with
the
specifics
of
that
number.
Six.
Is
that
a
five,
a
minimum
five
foot
tree
plot
and
six
foot
sidewalk
are
required
along
Kingston
Drive.
D
There
is
a
tree
plot
for
a
portion
of
that,
but
it
is
missing.
So
this
would
guarantee
that
we
have
a
tree
plot
and
sidewalk
along
there
and
then
number
seven.
Is
that
and
I
believe
this
number
came
from
the
petitioners
previous
map
and
plan
is
at
a
minimum
of
37?
Electric
vehicle
charging
stations
are
required,
so
those
are
the
conditions
that
I
have
worked
up
and
are
proposing
and
are
certainly
able
to
be
incorporated
if
the
board
wishes
to
adopt
any
of
them.
B
B
We're
facing
is
like
it's
fine
for
them
to
say:
I
mean
you
know,
they're
asking
for
a
variance
and
they're
showing
that
they're
saying
that
in
other
locations
they
need
300
parking
spaces.
But
then
they're
saying
here
we'll
be
fine
with
164,
but
we're
going
to
have
this
extra
hundred
doing
these
other
duties.
Well,
is
it
or
are
you
it's
just
it's
just
customer
parking.
B
You
know
like
so
it's
fine
to
say
that
they're
setting
these
aside
but
What
mechanisms
do
we
actually
have
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
just
xx's
customer
parking
I
mean
how
does
the
164
they've
proposed
here
meet
the
needs
that
they've
supposedly
showed
at
the
other
locations
of
300
spaces?
It
doesn't
make
any
sense.
The
the
total
here
gets
close
to
that
need,
but
not
what
they're
purporting
to
use
as
customer
parking.
B
B
If
you
think
that
there's
a
way
to
you
know
actually
Ballard
off
or
block
off
those
26
Rideshare
spaces,
you
know,
do
you
want
to
put
in
here
that
they
have
to
have
an
agreement
like
like
Mr
Throckmorton,
said
if
they
had
come
in
and
said
we
have
an
agreement
with
Zipcar
and
we're
gonna
have
26
Zipcars
at
this
location,
and
we
have
an
agreement.
You
know
with
whoever
and
we
will
have
36
electric.
A
Yeah
I
also
I
also
just
want
to
explain
that,
with
with
partial
psych
plan
compliance,
you
know
there
are
a
number
of
other
Provisions
that
you
have
to
meet
with
landscaping
and
their
other
goals
that
are
embedded
in
the
Udo
that
have
to
be
dealt
with.
So
what
Eric
is
trying
to
do
by
introducing
all
of
these?
C
B
C
That's
the
issue
that
I'm
having
is
but
they're,
not
right,
you
know
and
and
we're
looking
at
a
building
that
exists
and
has
material
I
agree
with
what
what
Jackie
was
saying,
which
is.
It
is
interesting
when
you
look
at
hey
we're
going
to
take
these
spaces
away,
you
kind
of
get
back
to
where
we
are
that's.
Why
I'm
saying
it
would
be
a
stronger
petition
if
it
had
come
in
and
said,
okay,
but
here's
what
we
want
to
do
with
those
Extra
Spaces
and
turn
it
over
for
other
use.
C
B
That's
part
of
the
problem
of
doing
this
type
of
thing
on
the
fly
right
so
Eric
did
you
have
an
idea,
I
mean
I,
think
Eric's
idea
based
on
what
he
said,
but
not.
What
is
what
written
here
is
that
if
there
was
not
a
demonstrated
need
annually,
we
would
come
back
to
you
and
say
it
and
I
is
that
even
something
we
can
do
come
back
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
may
have
to
be
a
zoning
commitment
signed
by
the
petitioner.
W
If
you
want
to
make
it
a
condition
of
approval
and
I'm
sorry
to
belabor
this
petition
that
you
write
in
precisely
what
the
the
intended
consequences
of
the
condition
that
the
board
is
imposing
are
or
what
you
plan
to
do
with
those
annual
reports.
I
do
agree
that
by
itself
as
written
right
now,
it
simply
requires
a
submission
of
the
report.
The
contents
of
the
report
are
irrelevant,
so.
B
Watching
I'm
sure
there
are
people
at
home
watching
you
know
what
Mrs
Clapper
said
like
it
is
unfortunate.
First
of
all,
we
don't
know
anything
about
the
Kroger
agreement.
They
have
indicated
that
there's
a
Kroger
agreement
and
that's
why
the
building's
vacant
that
seems
logical.
There
is
no
one
here
from
Kroger
indicating
that
that
is
the
case.
Whether
or
not
that's
true.
The
12-year
agreement
applied
that
sorry,
the
12-month
agreement
applies
across
the
city.
If
we
don't
think
that's
appropriate,
then
we
should
propose
to
change
that.
B
That
is
a
policy
question,
and
you
know
some
comments
were
made
by
members
of
the
public.
This
isn't.
What
we
want
to
you
know
is
this:
the
kind
of
policy
we
want
this
body
doesn't
do
policy
we're
looking
at
whether
or
not
this
property
has
unique
characteristics
that
that
mean
that
it
cannot
be
used
within
the
zoning
code,
and
if
you
decide
that
that's
true,
that's
fine,
but
then
we
should
also
think
about.
B
You
know
if,
if
the
Crux
of
approving
this
is
that
you
think
that
the
12
years
or
I'm
so
sorry
that
the
12
months
is
too
much
or
overburden
some,
then
that's
a
policy
question,
and
we
should
take
that
up
with
plan
commission
and
Council,
which
we've
talked
about
before
with
other.
You
know,
when
we've
had
other
variances
that
really
come
down
to
whether
or
not
we
agree
that
the
policy
makes
sense.
That's
not
really
what
this
board
is
to
be
looking
at.
W
Remember
very
quickly,
the
the
current
motion
pending
before
the
board
does
not
include
any
conditions
of
approval.
So,
if
you
want
to
add
conditions,
either
commission
or
Ballard
is
going
to
have
to
amend
his
motion
and
have
it
re-seconded
or
withdraw
the
motion
and
start
over
again.
Either
process
is
fine,
but.
I
Yeah
I'm
willing
to
add
the
conditions
as
long
as
I
feel
like
this
needs
to
be
a
conversation
with
the
petitioners
know
that
if
they're
willing
to
do
these
things,
I
mean
to
me
this
is
yeah.
I,
don't
know
to
me.
It's
I
feel
like
this
is
making
it
more
complicated,
I,
think
the
purview
I
understand
the
purview
I
think
the
part
about.
If
they
came
in
here
with
concrete
evidence
of
having
agreements
with
Rideshare,
that's
like
to
me,
there's
no
guarantee
if
they
have
those
agreements.
What
if
they
don't
get
the
approval?
B
Where
Zipcar
says,
if
you
do
this,
we
are
willing
to
do
this
they're
just
saying.
Oh,
this
sounds
like
a
nice
idea.
People
already
Park
here
and
again.
If
that
is
enough,
if
your
threshold
is
that
that's
enough,
that's
fine!
I!
Just
am
saying
that
I
think
staff
agrees
with
Mr
Throckmorton.
We
understand
that
they're
under
a
time
crunch.
It's
self-imposed
right.
B
It
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
the
city
of
Bloomington
or
the
planning,
transportation
department
or
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
they
want
to
open
by
a
certain
time
they
started
at
a
certain
time.
Our
due
diligence
takes
the
amount
of
time
that
it
takes
and
they
didn't
start
it
early
enough,
apparently
for
their
end
date,
so
we
just
kind
of
are
at
a
loss.
So
we
were
what
I
think.
The
point
is
if
it
was
if
it
was
more
fleshed
out
with
with
actual
intensive
service.
B
A
C
That's
what
they
proposed-
okay
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
understood
that
number
I
I
mean
I'll
go
back
to
what
I
was
saying.
Is
that
I?
Just
think
that
this
is
a
this
is
a
nice
compromise,
because
it
does
allow
there
to
be
some
structure
to
this
variance,
and
it's
a
it's
an
odd
and
difficult
thing.
A
A
C
A
H
So
Brian
schandler
again
I
think
what
we
would
suggest
making
part
of
our
commitment
in
return
for
approval
is
committing
to
the
ride,
share
and
I
think
we
we
came
prepared
to
commit
to
that
as
well
as
we
knew
how
to,
but
we
are
proposing
to
make
that
a
condition
that
is
a
ride
share.
It
can
be
programmed
by
the
city
it
can
be
programmed
by
us.
It
could
be
as
simple
as
signage.
H
There
could
be
advertising,
but
whatever
that
is,
we
will
make
that
commitment
with
regard
to
the
electric
vehicle
charging
I
would
only
say
make
up
to
37
spaces
available.
Tesla
is
the
industry
standard
Tesla
decides
how
many
spaces
are
needed
in
a
community
based
on
the
number
of
cars
they
have
and
those
Chargers
are
becoming
Universal,
so
my
expectation
is,
they
would
need
more,
but
we,
we
can't
tell
Tesla
how
many
and
then
the
other
charging
standards
they
do.
H
H
B
I
point
out
that
the
Udo
does
require
in
some
situations,
EV
charging
stations,
irrespective
of
what
Tesla
wants
to
do
there
you've
seen
variances
for
that
that
were
denied
for
the
project
on
South
Walnut.
You
know,
Tesla,
isn't
the
only
provider
of
charging
stations
we
have
charging
stations,
for
example
in
the
city
parking
garages,
you
know
the
the
owner
of
the
property
can
do
charging
stations,
and
you
know
again,
we
didn't
make
that
number
up
part
of
their
argument
for
why
they
should
get
this
variance.
B
Is
that
they'll
put
aside
space
for
37
charging
stations?
So
that's
why
it's
included
and
I
also
want
to
point
out
for
number
four,
whether
you
leave
it
in
or
not
they
keep
talking
about
hiring
an
engineering
firm.
That's
not
what
we've
seen
in
the
past
from
other
uses.
So
just
to
be
clear.
When
start,
we
asked
Starbucks
to
do
a
parking
study
for
their.
You
know,
location
in
Ellettsville.
They
literally
are
having
a
manager
go
out
once
an
hour
and
write
down
how
many
cars
are
in
the
parking
lot
for
a
week.
B
That's
what
those
are
the
types
of
surveys
we're
seeing
we're?
Not
asking
you
to
hire
a
an
engineering
firm
to
do
a
traffic
study.
That's
not
what
this
is
and
I'm
certain
Mr
grulich
was
clear
about
that
initially,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear,
so
you
all
know
we're
not
asking
them
to
spend
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
It's
literally
asking
a
staff
person
to
poke
their
head
out
and
count
some
cars.
I
B
So
if
you
wanted
to
be
something
for
this
particular
site,
like
Mr
Rooker
said,
then
we'll
probably
need
to
have
it
more
fleshed
out
indicating
if
need
isn't,
you
know
if,
if
need
isn't
demonstrated,
then
what
would
you
want
to
happen?
Otherwise,
it's
just
a
point
of
information
for
us
to
say:
oh,
they
did
need
it
FYI
bza
or
they
didn't.
You
know
for
the
that,
then
we
could
take
that
information
to
plant,
commission
or
counsel
for
policy,
so
he's
so
Eric's.
Adding
now
you
know
suggested
language,
but
obviously
you'd
put
whatever
you'd.
B
Mr
Brooker,
would
it
be
okay
to
add
to
number
four,
a
zoning
commitment
will
be
drafted
and
approved
by
the
board
so
that
we
can
have
more
time
to
flesh
out
what
the
actual
what
it
would
actually
be,
and
then
again,
as
Mr
Throckmorton
has
pointed
out,
they
don't
have
to
agree.
You
know
this
is
what
the
board
is
saying.
B
W
B
W
That
it's
tedious
and
it's
always
difficult
to
draft
conditions
or
findings
on
the
Fly.
This
is
not
our
first
time
doing
that
and
it's
always
a
challenge,
but
I
think
if,
before
the
the
I
would
recommend
to
the
board
that,
before
the
board
votes
to
approve
a
variance
with
a
particular
condition
that
you
have
a
decent
sense
about
precisely
what,
in
this
case,
condition
four
is
going
to
mean
for
the
petitioner
going
forward.
So
I
would
recommend
at
least
having
it's
fine
for
a
zoning
commitment
to
flesh
it
out.
W
I
I
mean
I.
Think
number
four
is
just
an
accountability.
It's
it's
not
saying
you
can't
continue
to
use
the
spaces
and
maximize
all
of
them.
That's
the
hope.
It's
simply
stating
that
if
you
don't
continue
to
maximize
the
space,
then
you're
going
to
remove
them,
so
we're
giving
you
the
opportunity
to
utilize
all
the
spaces
per
your
letter
at
your
various
sites.
So
you're
saying
this
is
the
this
is
the
use.
These
spaces
are
getting
maxed
out,
we'll
prove
that
continue
to
prove
that
every
year
and
we're
fine.
B
D
W
C
U
W
Perhaps
it
would
be
helpful
if
the
if
the
board
clarified
you
do
want,
you
do
want
them
the
board
to
have
the
ability
or
authority
to
reconsider
the
number
of
parking
spaces
approved
in
the
event
that
the
accounts
come
back
below
a
certain
threshold.
This
is
not
just
for
informational
purposes,
I
had
heard
both
discussed
and
it
wasn't
clear
what
was
being
proposed
for.
I
I
A
A
B
Eric
see
if
this
gets
at
what
your
and
the
board,
obviously
but
I
want
to
make
sure
you're.
Okay,
a
zoning
commitment
shall
be
recorded
and
approved
by
the
board
requiring
a
parking
study
to
be
submitted
annually
for
five
years.
The
parking
study
should
should
show
an
hourly
count
for
one
week.
In
each
month,
parking
spaces
over
the
annual
average
shall
be
removed.
I
Yeah
and
I
believe
if
the
need
is
greater
and
you're
spilling
into
the
dialysis
center,
which
we
don't
want,
then
you
you
for
the
point
of
why
we
gave
the
variance
in
the
first
place.
You
haven't,
you
have
more
than
you
need
and
it's
spilling
over.
So
that's
up
to
you
as
a
group
to
petition,
but
to.
W
A
I
A
A
A
A
Sorry,
oh
I'm,
sorry
yeah.
So
I
was
saying
that
if
that,
if
that
motion
was
withdrawn-
and
we
just
chose
to
if
I
made
a
motion
to
continue
the
case
and
asked
for
the
numbers
from
three
other
locales,
the
usage
study
in
the
manner
that
we're
used
to
seeing
it
in
order
to
demonstrate
the
need,
then,
if
the
need
is
demonstrated,
we
can
then
Grant
the
variance
on
that.
On
that
basis,
can
we
think.
V
C
A
V
A
V
A
Mr
Carmen,
so
I
I
have
put
a
different
path
forward
on
the
table
that
I
wanted
feedback
on,
and
that
is
to
not
do
this
necessarily
but
to
demonstrate,
provide
the
to
demonstrate
with
data
in
a
usage
study
the
need
in
three
other
locations
similar
to
this
kind
of
store,
and
then
we
would
be
able
to
Grant.
Perhaps
a
variance
on
the
number.
V
Just
so
you
know
October,
2nd
is
our
last
day.
So,
if
it
continues
to
you
know
middle
of
October
November
we're
dead,
okay,
we're
just
dead
we're
trying
to
do
the
right
thing:
okay
and
I
honor
all
my
commitments.
You
know
when
I
build
something
and
do
something
we
actually
have
honor.
We
have
a
track
tracker
record
of
many
many
years
doing
the
right
thing
and.
A
L
G
So
when
you're
going
to
make
a
multi-million
dollar
investment,
you
know
it's
not
like.
You
can
snap
your
fingers
and
do
it
because
you've
got
the
moving
part
of
a
landlord
who
has
a
prime
lease
with
the
largest
grocery
store
in
the
country.
It
moves
at
a
very
slow
pace,
we're
almost
a
six
and
a
half.
Seven
billion
dollar
company
now
we're
public.
G
So
we
have
different
underwriting
guidelines,
and
so
you
all
have
your
rules
and
I
100
respected,
but
I
did
want
to
just
at
least
let
everybody
know
that
we
we've
been
looking
at
this
opportunity
and
been
talking
to
Dave
here
for
well
over
a
year
and
a
half.
It
just
takes
time
for
these
things
to
actually
come
to
paper.
Awesome.
A
A
A
W
W
President
Clapper,
but
I
think
the
question
was:
if
this
petition
were
continued
to
the
next
regular
session,
which
is
scheduled
for
October
19th
2023,
would
the
petitioner
be
amenable
to
that
continuance
with
additional
evidence
for
the
board
to
consider
regarding
this
variance
I
think
we
got
an
indirect
answer
which
was
no
but
I.
Don't
know,
you've
got
a.
W
The
in
the
event
that
this
board
would
like
to
or
ends
up
scheduling
a
special
session.
It
is
fine
to
add
this
petition
to
the
agenda
for
such
a
special
session,
typically
or
just
to
give
everybody
in
the
audience
a
sense
about
that.
If
the
board
cannot
handle
all
of
its
business
tonight,
there
are
three
additional
petitions.
It
does
seem
likely
that
that
will
not
happen.
The
board
has
to
schedule
a
special
session
within
the
next
week
to
consider
those
remaining
petitions
that
were
not
considered.
A
W
V
Q
A
I
That's
the
simple
that
that
to
me,
because
again,
this
is
the
more
complicated.
This
gets
I
understand
what
we're
trying
to
propose
but
number
three,
stating
that
the
strict
application
in
which
this
is
results
in
Practical
difficulties.
The
most
practical
difficulty
here
is
the
October
2nd
drop
dead
date,
and
if,
if
that
goes
away
and
the
whole
thing
could
go,
that's
that's
too
big
of
an
opportunity,
missed
and
I.
Think
they've
presented
enough
to
pass
it.
So
I
will
go
back
to
my
original
motion
with
no
conditions.
A
C
Don't
have
also
an
issue
if,
if
the,
if
you
wanted
to
add
any
of
those
recommendations
that
are
not
issues,
I,
don't
have
a
problem.
You
know
amending
your
motion
to
accept
those
findings
from
the
petitioner,
but
also
there
are
some
pieces
in
there
that
the
petitioner
has
said
that
they
would
be
willing
to
to
to
do,
and
why
not
add
that
to
it.
Just
so.
I
C
V
H
H
37
parking
spaces
at
least
made
available
it
is
you
can't
snap
your
fingers
and
make
charging
stations
happen.
I
understand
that
it's
not
just
Tesla,
but
it
is
it's
not
something
that
private
individuals
can
just
make
happen,
but
we
will
make
them
available
and
generally
an
electric
vehicle
charging
companies,
whether
it's
Tesla
or
somebody
else,
love
free
spaces.
H
I
A
H
A
You
know,
and
so
I
I
my
recommendation
to
to
the
board
is
that
we
reckon
we
that
you
withdraw
your
motion
and
and
then
we
give
this
some
more
thought
and
we
bring.
This
back.
I
will
be
happy
to
come
back
next
week
for
even
a
special,
a
special
hearing
to
hear
this
case
again
to
open,
reopen
this
case,
but
I
feel
like
we
need
to
think
about
this.
A
little
bit
more
I.
Don't
like
this
horse
trading
kind
of
attitude.
W
I
C
A
I
A
T
W
A
A
I
A
I
A
A
Okay,
so
we
are
reconvening
and
our
our
fourth
member
it
has
to
be
had
to
leave
by
eight
o'clock.
So
Joe
is
not
going
to
be
with
us.
The
board
is
so
at
at
this
point.
We
have
three
other
petitions
on
on
the
schedule
and
we
could
your
your
cases
can
be
heard
by
us,
but
there
will
only
be
three
people,
and
that
means
that
you
would
need
all
three
votes
in
order
to
get
a
positive
recommendation.
If
you
get
two
or
one,
then
it
fails.
A
T
A
Ten,
okay,
so,
and
are
you
able
to
stay
to
hear
all
three
cases?
Okay,
so
I'm
willing
to
stay,
and
we
have
somebody
who's
willing
to
stay
Nikki's
willing
able
to
stay
until
10.?
So
we
can
see
where
we
are
at
about
9
30
or
about
nine
o'clock,
see
how
we're
doing
on
time,
but
it
is
up
to
so.
The
next
case
would
be
v-28-23
who's,
your
Commons
LLC.
It
is
up
to
you
if
you
want
to
be
heard
this
evening.
W
A
D
D
So
the
petitioner
is
here
tonight
to
request
a
variance
from
a
maximum
parking
standards
to
allow
for
31
parking
spaces
for
a
fitness
center
come
a
small
use,
any
mixed
use
medium
scale.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
property
is
on
mixed-use
medium
scale
and
has
been
developed
with
a
office
building.
There
was
a
former
home
to
a
fitness
center,
so
it's
a
somewhat
industrial
building.
D
It
did
contain
a
fitness
center
iron
pit
gym
again
that
that
use
was
removed
and
the
building
sat
empty
for
several
years
and
the
petitioner
has
a
new
use
moving
in
there.
That
is
the
the
same
use
category,
but
it's
Sim
a
somewhat
different
type
of
use,
so
the
uses
going
in
there
is
for
Elite
Fitness
and
they
are
a
training
facility,
so
they
operate
by
classes
with
certain
staff
members.
People
sign
up
for
these
classes.
D
So
we
did
approve
a
staff
level
site
staff
level,
minor
site
plan,
approval
that
showed
all
of
the
parking
spaces
being
removed
to
the
maximum
that
were
allowed,
and
the
petitioner,
since
that
time
has
realized
that
you
know
the
the
amount
of
spaces
that
were
shown
and
approved.
The
the
23
spaces
that
were
shown
is
not
going
to
meet
their
need
and
they
had
been
working
towards
coming
up
with
a
definitive
parking
study
similar
to
what
staff
has
encouraged
folks
in
a
similar
situation
to
prepare.
D
You
know,
which
is
a
study
of
their
existing
location,
counting
the
number
of
cars
giving
us
detailed
information
about
staff,
students
and
enrollment.
So
they
are
coming
forward
tonight
to
request
this
variance
to
add
for
additional
parking
spaces
to
allow
for
33
parking
spaces.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
the
site
plan
that
was
submitted
and
approved
with
their
staff
over
monosite
trillion
approval.
This
showed
the
site
come
me
into
complete
compliance.
There
were
new
islands
installed
interior
to
the
site.
Some
parking
spaces
were
removed
to
meet
that
23.
D
Maximum
parking
spaces
were
removed
along
the
front
to
meet
the
parking
setback.
There
is
a
sidewalk
connection
between
the
building
and
the
street,
and
so
the
petitioners
have
proposed
and
brought
forward
a
new
site
plan
showing
the
number
of
the
31
parking
spaces
that
they
are
requesting
again.
There
will
still
be
an
island
installed
so
that
we
did
not
have
more
than
10
parking
spaces
within
the
site.
Without
an
island,
the
parking
setback
is
still
being
met.
D
The
minimum
landscape
area
is
still
being
met,
so
no
variances
are
being
requested
or
needed
from
that
aspect,
so
they're
simply
requesting
to
allow
the
31
parking
stasis
so
in
your
packet
and
on
the
screen.
I've
just
included
a
snippet
of
one
of
those
particular
days,
but
in
your
packet
you
have
a
full
study
showing
a
full
week
of
activities
outlining
the
number
of
athletes
and
the
number
for
a
staff,
as
well
as
the
number
of
parking
spaces
used
at
their
existing
location
on
the
west
side
of
town.
D
D
So
this
space
is
is
this
property
is
certainly
unique
in
that
there
is
not
on-street
parking.
There
is
not
immediately
adjacent
publicly
accessible
parking
spaces.
The
property
to
the
West
is
an
apartment,
complex,
an
apartment,
the
property
to
the
east
is
an
office
owned
by
IU
Health,
not
under
control
by
the
petitioner
or
owned
by
them.
So
there
is
not
an
opportunity
for
any
kind
of
shared
parking
or
on-street
spaces.
D
So
we
do
find
that
this
is
does
meet
the
criteria
that
are
in
the
stats
report
and
I
am
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
We
are
recommending
that
the
board
adopt
our
proposed
findings
and
approve
this
variance
with
the
one
condition
that
is
listed
in
stats
report
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
A
X
X
X
So
slide
two,
so
I've
owned
this
property
for
a
little
over
30
years.
This
used
to
be
Indiana
gymnastics
and
then
the
iron
pit.
If
you
remember-
and
obviously
you
know
it's
not
a
very
nice
looking
property,
rather
an
eyesore
and
then
I
when
I
asked
the
iron
pit
to
move
out.
It
was
right
before
covid
and
you
know
the
building's
sad
empty
for
three
years,
but
I
did
have
it
in
in
an
alloy
with
gopuff
on
two
occasions.
Actually
right
and
so
yes,
it
did
sit
empty
for
longer
than
a
year.
X
However,
the
tenant
that's
moving
in
is
the
exact
same
type
of
business
that
has
been
in
there
and
that
I
had
when
was
Indiana
gymnastics.
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide
so
when,
when
I
decided
to
renovate
the
building
to
make
it
more
attractive
to
people,
I
hired
I,
hired
a
landscape
designer
from
Spring
point
to
put
in
all
the
landscaping
and
to
put
in
a
wall
a
75-foot
wall
by
15
feet?
X
And
so
when
the
lease
was
signed
on
February
12th
of
this
year,
she
ex
my
I,
my
tenant,
expected
to
be
in
by
October
and
I.
Don't
know
what
took
so
long
because
when
I
renovated,
the
exterior
of
the
building
the
permit
was
approved
in
two
weeks
this,
the
interior
or
the
exterior
or
the
interior
permit,
with
the
parking
lot
has
taken
10
weeks
or
more,
and
so
I
expect
it
to
present
here
in
July,
and
then
it
got
pushed
to
August
and
for
some
reason
we
missed
that
deadline.
X
X
So
there
were
a
total
of
41
parking
spots.
I
had
been
asked
to
remove
18,
because
only
three
parking
spot
spots
are
allowed
per
1000
square
feet.
It's
a
thousand,
it's
a
seven
thousand
square
foot
building,
so
23
parking
spots
which
immediately
I
knew
wasn't
going
to
work
for
the
new
tenant
and
the
reason
why
she
selected
my
building
is
because
of
the
parking
and
why
she's
moving
out
of
her
current
situation.
X
So
anyway,
here
we
have
five
Islands
removing
18
parking
spots.
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide
and
then,
and
and
also
there's
a
dumpster
that
was
in
in
easement
in
Black
Lumber,
the
very
back
of
Black
Lumber,
so
I
had
to
move
that
as
well
and
that
took
that's
taking
up
two
spots
as
well,
so
it
I
I,
guess
this
is
probably
difficult.
Can
you
zoom
in
on
uh-huh
and
slide
it
down?
Thank
you
so
what
we
proposed,
so
let
me
go
back
again.
X
X
Right
here
would
be
three
parking
spots.
The
two
in
the
mill
would
be
one
parking
spot
each
as
opposed
to
two
parking
spots
before
and
then
in
the
previous
slide.
There
was
a
island
slated
to
be
on
the
south,
I'm
sorry
on
the
North
west
side,
but
that
one's
been
removed,
and
so
now
the
one
on
the
northeast
side
would
only
be
two
parking
spots
taken
away
as
well.
X
That's
all
right!
So
again,
what
we're
asking
for
is
that
we
would
remove
10
parking
spots.
We
would
have
the
four
islands
with
Landscaping
in
it.
I've
already
moved
the
dumpster
and,
of
course
we
would
have
the
two
handicap
parking
spots
next
slide
and
going
over
what
I
already
said.
Well,
okay,
so
I'm
a
huge
proponent
of
beautification
of
you
know
doing
what's
right,
making
Bloomington
more
attractive
to
everyone.
X
I
know
for
a
fact
that
when
I
had
the
gymnastics,
school
I
taught
gym
that
I
taught
cheerleading
as
well.
Cheerleading
was
the
money
maker
for
me.
So
even
though
the
name
of
the
business
was
in
the
end,
gymnastics
I
made
my
money
through
those
classes,
so
I
had
gymnasts
that
would
or
cheerleaders
that
would
drive
from
Bedford
Paoli
I
even
had
people
come
from
Vincennes
and
because
of
that
that
they
would
come
so
far
and
drive
two
hours.
X
One
way
to
me,
they
sit
in
the
parking
lot
right
and
you
will
have
six
classes
of
10
people
generally
or
what
have
you?
And
so
you
know,
and
then
you
have
overlapping
classes
right,
one's
ending
and
they're
coming
early.
The
parking
lot
is
just
jam-packed.
So
even
though
I
had
41
parking
spots
that
were
striped,
people
would
park
in
behind
my
building
as
well
and
I
know
that
that's
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
new
tenant,
even
though
it's
now
grass
can
you
go
to
the
next
one.
X
So
this
is
just
an
example
of
what
I've
done.
I've
installed
22
brand
new
trees,
plus
there
were
six
already
on
the
property,
so
I
have
a
total
of
28
total
trees,
I
installed,
67,
shrubs,
157
or
yeah
157
grasses,
ferns
perennials
46
bulbs
for
a
total
of
292
total
plantings,
and
it
cost
me
a
hundred
and
seven
thousand
dollars.
X
Basically,
over
and
above
the
840
000
that
I've
put
in
renovating
the
building
and
because
it's
the
one
year
was
triggered,
which
it
which
I
understand
it's
the
law
right,
but
you
have
to
be
able
to
see.
Okay,
this
is
the
exact
same
type
of
business.
That's
been
in
it
for
30
years
that
I'm
sorry
I
lost
my
train
of
thought.
X
X
So
that
everything
is
just
one
right
and
looks
nice
right,
that's
just
an
increased
cost
that
I
have,
and
you
see
on
the
far
left
of
that
there's
a
drainage
there
that
I
paid
to
have
installed
right,
because
when
I
repave
the
parking
lot,
the
all
the
way
at
wider
will
drain
to
that
drain.
But
I
was
made
to
to
create
another
drain
or
cut
in
the
curb
in
that
planting
area.
There
do
you
see
that
where
it
goes
into
the
island
yeah
that
uh-huh
right?
X
So
it's
all
these
little
things
that
keep
adding
up
that
are
just
I,
just
crazy
when,
when
I
know
that
my
tenant
needs
the
parking,
oh
and
also
that
each
island
requires
a
canopy
tree
right
right
next
to
that
Island
I
know.
It's
probably
difficult
for
you
to
see
is
a
Japanese
maple
tree
right,
and
it's
just
one
thing
after
another
that
it's
like
how
much
can
I
do?
X
All
the
Landscaping
everything
took
place
during
covet,
but
I've
paid
to
have
that
bark
laid
and
there
are
annuals
and
perennials
that
you
know
are
planted
in
there
just
to
make
our
property
look
nice
right,
I've
taken
on
that
cost
and
if
you
can
see
I
planted
eight
yellow
wood
trees
there
and
none
of
them
count
towards
the
the
city
points.
However,
you
add
that
up
because
yellow
Woods,
the
average
height
is
I,
think
Max
of
25
feet,
but
the
city
requires
something
like
a
Max
of
35
feet.
X
So
all
that
money,
all
those
trees
that
I
put
in
because
I
care
and
I'm
a
good
neighbor
and
I'm.
A
good
citizen
of
Bloomington
is
for
naught
and
along
that
Island
I've
installed
58
bushes
along
the
median
right.
So
you
want
me
you're,
asking
me
to
put
to
take
away
parking
spots
to
butt
up
to
that
island
or
to
that
Medium.
Two
of
them
would
Bud
up
to
that
I
mean.
Doesn't
that
just
seem
illogical
and
like
how
much
more?
Can
you
ask
this
guy
to
do?
X
So
this
is
the
back
of
my
building
that
butts
up
the
Black
Lumber,
as
you
can
see
in
the
picture
on
the
right,
I
installed,
13
trees
along
there
and
I
put
in
River
Rock
to
go
all
the
way
across
and
planted
30
additional
bushes
there,
just
because
I
care.
No
one
asked
me
to
do
it
right
and
so
I
would
hope
that
you
would
take
that
into
account
when
you're,
considering
landscaping
and
the
islands
I
understand.
X
Black
Lumber
didn't
care.
What
have
you,
but
the
one
year
triggered
that
I
have
to
move
it
and
I
had
to
make
it
much
bigger
and
they
required
that
I
lay
all
this
concrete.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
how
much
concrete
costs,
but
it's
outrageously,
expensive
right
now
so-
and
this
was
just
poured
today
and
so
what
else
so
again
again
that
also
takes
away
two
more
parking
spots
right,
so
I'm
really
down
to
29,
not
31..
X
X
X
A
B
He
you
could,
you
can
consider
the
variance
that
was
noticed
to
the
public,
so
the
variance
that's
in
the
packet
is
the
only
one
you
can
consider.
So,
for
example,
if
he
doesn't
want
Islands,
that's
a
variance
request.
It's
a
requirement
of
code
I
believe
Mr
grulich
talked
about
that
at
least
with
the
representative.
You
know
and
they
decided
to
file
for
the
number
so
Mr
gorilla.
A
W
E
W
Let
everybody
know
that
this
site
might
not
be
compliant
with
those
standards.
However,
I
think
what
we
heard
in
the
oral
presentation
a
moment
ago
was
a
request
for
relief
from
some
of
the
Landscaping
requirements
that
that
was
not
requested.
When
we
put
the
notice
in
the
newspaper
and
sent
it
to
everybody,
we
didn't
tell
anybody.
W
B
A
A
A
Y
So
thank
you
for
hearing
me,
especially
after
kind
of
a
contentious
last
petition,
but
I'm
hoping
this
one
will
go
much
more
smooth.
My
name
is
Angie
Collins
again
and
I,
actually
own
royalty
Elite,
which
is
the
tenant
that
will
be
going
into
122
East
Miller
Drive
we
opened
in
2018
on
the
west
side
of
town.
We
are
a
competitive
cheerleading
facility.
We
are
the
only
facility
of
its
kind
in
about
a
60
mile
radius
that
offers
the
scope
and
depth
of
services
classes.
Teams
right
now.
Y
I
currently
have
15
different
teams
that
we
have
formed.
Many
of
them
travel
not
only
here
like
locally,
but
we
travel
nationally.
We
go
to
Florida
every
year,
we're
very
competitive,
we're
very
talented
and
we
are
growing.
We
opened
in
2018
with
55
total
athletes
in
our
gym
and
about
four
teams,
and
now
here
six
seasons
later
we
are
in
season
six.
We
have
150
athletes
on
teams
and
then
we
have
another,
probably
65
to
70
athletes
that
come
to
us
for
either
a
cheerabilities
class
or
tumbling
classes.
Private
lessons
stunt
lessons.
Y
Iu
cheer
also
comes
to
our
facility.
From
time
to
time.
We
do
actually
have
agreements
when
we
move
into
our
new
facility
with
the
high
schools,
specifically
with
South,
to
come
and
run
to
our
facility,
because
the
space
is
so
desirable.
There's
nothing
else
like
this
in
our
community.
My
current
clientele
travels
from
up
to
probably
an
hour
away.
We
have
kids
on
teams
that
travel
from
Mitchell
and
Paoli.
We
have
a
Bedford
contingent.
Y
We
have
a
Nashville
Columbus
carpool
group,
The
Coast,
so
those
people
that
come
from
far
away
do
already,
carpool
and
even
with
those
individuals
that
do
that.
You
know
these
are
all
kids
from
3
to
18
years
old
that
come
to
our
facility.
So
we
have
two
senior
teams
which
are
our
high
school
age
teams.
Now
those
are
the
only
groups
of
kids
that
do
actually
drives
themselves
to
the
facility.
Everyone
else
is,
of
course,
reliant
on
a
parent
to
bring
them
there.
Y
So
one
of
the
reasons
that
getting
this
parking
variance,
the
maximum
parking
spaces
that
we
can
get
is
to
support
that
clientele
and
the
types
of
clients
that
I
deliver
services
to.
We
have
kids
that
come
routinely
for
two
and
a
half
hour
practices,
and
they
do
that
two
times
a
week.
They
come
two
other
times
a
week
for
jumps
classes,
flexibility,
classes,
tumbling
classes.
If
you
go
to
our
existing
facility
on
the
west
side
of
Bloomington,
it's
embarrassing.
Y
The
traffic
problem
I
hate
that
I'm,
not
a
good
neighbor
to
my
neighbors
over
there
because
of
the
traffic
issue
and
the
most
compelling
reason
for
choosing
this
specific
location
was
seeing
that
there
was
about
40
plus
parking
spaces.
So
I
was
ignorant
of
kind
of
the
process,
as
you
can
imagine,
and
only
learned,
probably
within
the
last
two
months,
that
there
was
additional
standards
and
compliance
issues
that
had
to
be
met,
and
that
was
after
I
had
Inked.
Y
The
deal
to
you
know
spend
the
next
seven
years
at
this
location,
so
anything
more
than
the
maximum
is
absolutely
needed.
I
went
out
and
personally
did
a
parking
study.
I
actually
did
one
in
in
March
when
we
thought
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
come
in
the
summer
for
this
type
of
a
hearing
and
then
I
redid
it
in
June.
Y
In
our
in
our
world,
June
resets
our
season,
so
in
in
may
we
have
tryouts,
we
place
our
teams
in
June
everything
starts,
and
so
I
went
out
in
June
and
spent
time.
Looking
at
both
my
classes,
my
enrollment
data
and
took
pictures
in
the
parking
lot
to
see
how
many
kids
parents
coaches
were
in
the
in
the
facility
at
a
given
time.
Y
It
is
more
than
the
parking
that's
even
there,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
already
deal
with
what
do
I
do
now.
Where
can
I
encourage
people
to
utilize?
Other
avenues
of
parking
can
I
encourage
my
coaches
to
park
someplace
else
so
that
I
can
free
up
those
eight
nine
spots
for
individuals,
so
I
will
just
say:
I
clearly
am
in
favor
of
this
variance,
because
I
am
the
tenant.
Y
I
am
going
to
be
continuing
to
grow
in
this
community
It's
a
Wonderful
sport
I
mean
you
guys,
probably
know
families
and
children
that
go
to
my
gym.
We
love
our
kids.
We
love
our
community
and
we
intend
to
be
here
for
a
long
time
and
part
of
that
is
making
sure
that
we
have
the
required
resources
such
as
parking.
So
thank
you.
A
R
You,
my
name
is
Dave
harstead
I
have
a
PowerPoint.
Would
you
please
pull
that
up
yeah?
So,
while
that's
being
done
yeah
this
process,
this
lease
was
signed
a
long
time
ago
and
we've
been
waiting
a
very
long
time,
and
unfortunately
this
is.
This
is
just
an
example
of
how
we
shouldn't
do
business
in
this
city.
It's
just
been
a
bad
experience.
I,
don't
I
hope
I'm,
not
speaking
out
of
line
Scott,
but
it's
just
it's
taken
way
too
long.
The
requirements
have
been
unreasonable
and
I.
R
Just
I
wanted
to
show
you
this
slide
to
just
kind
of
Orient.
You
I,
don't
know
where
your
screen
is
and
what
you
can
see,
but
the
the
site
is
on
the
north
side
of
Miller
Drive.
This
shows
Miller,
Drive
and
so
directly
across
the
street.
What
we
are
screening
for
what
what
fifty
sixty
thousand
dollars
of
additional
Landscaping
that
goes
in
because
of
this
requirement,
is
going
to
screen
a
bus
parking
lot
which
has
which
is
owned
by
a
municipal
Corporation
our
school
corporation.
It
has
no
landscape
violence
in
it.
R
R
You
know
heat
islands
and
all
these
important
policy
objectives
and
the
overwhelming
thing
that
we
see
is
impervious
pavement,
no,
no
trees,
no
Islands,
no
trees,
screening,
the
actual
neighbors
across
the
street,
Etc
so
very
difficult
to
swallow.
This
requirement
I
gave
bad
Scott
bad
advice
when,
when
we
first
had
this
building
come
up
for
the
market,
it
was
basically
an
industrial
building
and
there's
a
shortage
of
small
7
000
square
foot
buildings.
The
time
there
was
a
PUD
in
place.
R
What
we
should
have
done
is
simply
put
a
Supply
Company
in
there
and
it
would
have
been
legal
at
the
time
it
wouldn't
have
cost
Scott
much
money
at
all.
We
wouldn't
have
had
Landscaping
compliance.
The
building
wants
to
be
either
an
industrial
building
and
an
office
building
or
Fitness,
and
because
of
that
because
of
covid
office
and
fitness
was
literally
just
completely
wiped
off
the
map
right,
there
was
no
no
Fitness
deals
happening
no
office
deals
happening
during
covet,
we
didn't
know
it
was
coming,
obviously,
but
very
difficult
situation.
R
The
use
that
we
have
here
requires
parking
in
a
big
way
and
so
I
get
that
there's
an
activist
Community
out
there.
That
believes
that
we
can,
but
we
don't
need
parking
and
they're
wrong
right.
We
need
parking
in
this
city
and
we
need
balance
I'm
a
I'm,
a
huge
proponent
of
of
high
quality
Aesthetics.
R
Clearly
Scott
is
even
a
greater
proponent
of
of
high
quality
Aesthetics,
and
so
he
is
the
ultimate
Good
Neighbor
on
the
street,
and
so
it
would
be
great
if
we
had
some
other
good
neighbors
on
the
street,
including
our
storm,
water,
utility,
Etc
and
other
Municipal
organizations
that
aren't
doing
anything
even
close
to
what
Scott
is
doing
so
sorry
to
be
sort
of
a
jerk
about
this,
but
I
can't
hold
back
it's
just.
This
is
a
rough
one.
So,
thank
you.
A
X
The
only
thing
I
want
to
say
is
this
process
has
taken
a
ridiculously
long
time
period.
I
never
would
have
ever
and
Eric
knows
as
I
stressed
it
and
stressed
it
and
stressed
it
that
I
didn't
want
any
islands
that
I
shouldn't
have
to
be
required
to
it.
The
only
reason
why
I'm
being
put
in
this
position
to
spend
60
additional
thousand
dollars
for
these
islands
and
to
remove
parking
that
is
going
to
hurt
her
business
is
because
this
took
so
long
and
that
you
know
she
has
to
be
in
by
October.
X
You
know
she's
tried
to
extend
her
lease
for
another
month,
so
that
I
could
come
back
and
so
that
the
I
could
go
for
the
variants,
but
I
couldn't
come
for
the
variance
and
say
I,
don't
want
any
parking
Islands,
because
if
you
turn
me
down
for
no
parking
Islands,
she
couldn't
have
moved
in
and
so
I've
been
delayed.
Three
months
I,
just
don't
I
know
for
a
fact
that
my
contractor
submitted
something
and
it
sat
in
an
employee's
basket
for
three
weeks.
I
know
it
for
a
fact.
X
She
has
admitted
it
right
and
so
I'm
in
this
position
to
spend
so
much
money
and
I'm.
Just
you
know:
I've
I
I've
heard
nothing,
but
how
difficult
Bloomington
is
to
do
business
in
I've
never
experienced
it,
but
this
is
just
I
mean
my
husband.
Just
is
like.
We've
got
to
sell
the
building
get
out
of
it,
but
I
put
I'm
putting
in
a
million
dollars
a
million
dollars
into
a
building.
X
This
amendment
that
I'm
asking
to
do
and
I'll
come
back
next
month
and
ask
for
zero
because
she
has
to
be
in
my
building
and
I
can't
get
a
temporary
permit
to
allow
her
to
move
into
the
building
for
the
next
month
that
so
that
I
can
come
back
and
fly
from
California.
For
another
thing,
it's
just
I,
don't
know
it's
just
been
a
terrible
terrible
experience.
I'm.
I
D
A
D
I
I
would
imagine
that
there
is
possibilities
on
the
site
for
other
parking
to
me.
You
know
islands
and
Landscaping
I,
don't
immediately
know
that
that
would
be
up
for
them
to
kind
of
design
and
then
come
forward.
You
know
we're
processing
for
the
number
that
they
came
forward
and
applied.
For
you
know
they.
They
chose
to
come
forward
with
just
a
variance
from
the
maximum
number
of
spaces.
Allow
the
31,
based
on
what
their
engineer
came
up
with
you
know.
A
A
X
Isn't
required?
Oh
no,
almost
nobody
goes
out
that
back
30
years
ago.
Well,
I
was
the
very
first
building
on
that
block
right
for
going
north
before
IU
Health
IU
Health
moved
in
and
one
day
they
walked
across
the
the
median
and
they
said
hey.
Would
you
mind
if
we
connected
parking
lots,
I
said
sure?
Okay,
there's
no
written
agreement,
no,
nothing!
Okay,
right!
But
you're
going
to
have
me
add
these
Lots
these
islands
attached
to
the
median
that
IRA
has
eight.
A
A
X
W
A
W
I
A
38.,
oh
yes,
and
that,
with
with
the
the
one
condition
of
approval,
as
stated
by
the
by
staff,
okay
and
I
want
to
just
thank
Mr
Andrews
for
his
testimony
here.
I
want
to
thank
Mr
Andrews
for
his
testimony
here
this
evening
and
I
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
what
citizens
go
through
in
wrestling
with
our
our
current
set
of
regulations
and
and
I
think
in
the
future
that
there
is
going
to
be
some
reconsideration.
A
I
A
A
I
B
A
A
U
D
D
Thank
you.
So
this
is
a
request
from
Red
Truck
Bloomington
for
property
at
116,
North,
Grant
Street.
The
petitioners
are
here
tonight
to
request
a
variance
from
the
minimum
primary
structure
standards
to
allow
one-story
Edition
to
a
building
in
the
mixed
use
downtown
in
the
University
Village
overlay
District.
D
So
this
property
is
at
the
southeast
corner
of
6th
and
Grant.
It
is
within
the
mixed
use,
downtown
district
and
within
the
University
Village
overlay.
As
I
mentioned,
it
has
been
developed
with
three
buildings.
There
are
two
buildings
along
Sixth
Street
that
are
used
as
residences,
and
then
this
also
contains
the
Big
Woods
Brewing
Company
restaurant
location.
D
So
the
petitioners
are
here
tonight
to
request
this
variant
so
now
in
order
to
allow
for
an
addition
to
an
existing
building
on
the
site
that
has
kind
of
served
a
variety
of
roles
over
the
years.
So
it
is
a
building
in
the
center
of
the
the
site.
Here
it
was
previously
just
a
garage
that
was
associated
with
the
adjacent
residence
to
the
north.
D
It
was
refinished
some
time
ago
to
allow
it
to
be
used
as
a
restroom
and
serving
area
with
on
the
site,
and
so
the
petitioners
would
like
to
do
an
expansion
to
that
to
allow
for
some
additional
seating
on
the
site
So
within
the
University
Village
overlay.
There
is
a
minimum
primary
structure,
height
of
25
feet.
The
building
currently
and
the
addition
is
proposed
to
only
be
11
feet,
9
inches
and
therefore
does
not
meet
the
minimum
primary
structure
height
standard,
and
so
they
are
requesting
the
variance
to
allow
for
the
addition.
D
D
You
know
we
can
certainly
go
into
the
reasoning
behind
that
which
is
you
know
within
our
downtown.
We
want
a
compact
Urban
form.
We
want
taller
buildings.
One-Story
buildings
within
the
downtown
are
inappropriate
in
scale
in
regards
to
massing
and
size
for
adjacent
buildings.
So
that's
why
there's
a
minimum
you
know
the
downtown
is
the
only
zoning
District
where
there
is
a
minimum
primary
structure
height,
and
that
is
there
for
a
very
specific
reason.
D
So,
as
we
go
through
our
variance
findings,
you
know
we
certainly
don't
find
that
there
are
any
that
the
granting
of
the
variants
would
be
injurious
to
the
public
health,
their
safety.
You
know
the
the
proposed
Edition
would
meet
all
building
or
fire
codes,
so
there's
no
negative
finding
there.
However,
as
we
go
through
here,
you
know
into
the
the
findings
for
the
use
and
value
adjacent
to
the
area.
D
You
know
in
this.
We
do
find
that
there
is
a
negative
impact.
You
know
the
granting
of
the
variants
to
allow
a
one-story
addition
to
a
one-story
building
does
not
promote
the
general
design
and
development
guidelines
that
were
envisioned
for
the
downtown.
We
have
numerous
documents:
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
downtown
Division
and
infill
strategy
plan,
we're
all
documents
that
looked
at
how
we
won
our
downtown
to
develop,
and
then
the
guidelines
and
the
rules
within
the
unified
development
ordinance
were
written.
D
You
know
the
the
second
finding
here
or
the
third
finding
here.
You
know
the
the
aspect
that
what
is
unique
about
this
property
that
does
not
allow
them
to
meet
code.
What
is
the
Practical
difficulty
in
the
use
of
the
property?
That
would
be
relieved
by
the
granting
of
the
variants?
You
know
you
can't
make
that
argument.
You
know
the
build
the
build.
The
property
has
a
use.
Now
it
has
seating.
It
has
many
uses
that
are
happening
within
there.
Not
allowing
this
Edition
would
not
deprive
them
the
reasonable
use
of
the
property.
D
B
Z
Z
A
couple
of
points
of
clarification
just
to
start
one
is
we
we
understood
from
the
architect
that
the
height
was
12
foot.
Eric
is
reading
that
to
be
11
foot
9
inches.
We
can
make
it
work
with
that
three
foot
difference,
but
for
clarification
we
had
requested
a
relief
from
the
25
foot
down
to
12
foot
and
the
other.
Z
And
if
you
read
the
definition,
it
says
that
it
means
a
subsidiary
or
auxiliary
building
or
structure
located
on
the
same
zoning
lot,
with
the
primary
building
or
structure
that
is
customarily
incidental
to
that
primary
building,
and
then
it
has
the
word
or
the
primary
use,
and
so
it's
in
the
alternative.
Certainly
this
addition
would
be
accessory
to
the
main
building,
because
the
main
building
is
the
primary
use
where
the
kitchen
and
service
areas
stem
from.
Z
So
you
can
have
the
primary
building
without
this
accessory,
but
you
can't
have
this
accessory
bill
Building
without
the
primary.
So
you
know
we
we
think
there's
some
challenge
there
with
regard
to
how
this
structure
is
being
defined
under
the
Udo
and
some
question
about
that.
Our
election
at
this
point
was
to
proceed
to
seek
a
variance
just
to
try
to
put
this
issue
to
rest
entirely,
because
the
planning
staff
did
not
agree
with
us
that
this
that
this
addition
would
be
accessory
and
not
require
a
variance.
Z
So
that's
just
a
couple
of
points
of
clarification
in
question,
as
as
an
addition
to
an
existing
structure.
As
Eric
pointed
out,
this
proposed
Edition
is
an
adaptation,
an
extension
onto
the
property
from
a
one-story
building.
It's
entirely
consistent
with
the
already
existing
buildings,
all
around
it
to
the
North
to
the
east,
immediately
adjacent
across
the
alley
to
the
South.
The
addition
to
be
constructed
will
extend,
as
I
said,
directly
off
of
this
one
story,
I
think
to
require
otherwise
on
this
site.
Z
Just
really
works
a
very
awkward
result
and
as
as
for
the
statutory
findings
for
a
variance-
and
you
know,
planning
staff
positively
finds
that
the
variants
wouldn't
be
injurious
to
health
safety,
morals
and
Welfare
doesn't
have
an
adverse
impact
on
use
and
value.
In
fact,
one
of
the
things
that
was
omitted
from
your
packet
that
I
hope
you
have
were
several
letters
of
support
from
adjacent
property
owners
who
are
in
favor
of
this
occurring
and
Eric.
Z
You
might
speak
to
that
later
in
the
meeting
after
our
presentation
is
finished,
because
we
had
several
letters
of
support
from
adjacent
owners
who
support
who
support
this
variance.
It
certainly
does
not
have
an
adverse
impact,
but
the
staff
report
questions
its
usefulness,
this
project
and
furthering
the
udo's
plan
for
compact,
Urban
form
and
development.
That's
now
directed
into
this
Zone
by
what
I'm
still
thinking
of
as
a
new
Udo,
but
the
relief
that's
requested
from
this
25-foot
standard.
Z
It
really
does
preserve
and
enhance
the
neighborhood
as
it
appears
today
in
keeping
with
the
current
character
of
this
area,
which
I
think
we
all
value
in
the
present
tense.
We
recognize
that
this
Udo
calls
for
compact
Urban
form
and
future
development
in
this
Zone
and
overlay,
and
that
might
make
sense
here
if
the
improvements
on
this
parcel
were
being.
You
know
if
it
was
being
scraped,
and
this
was
a
new
construction
effort.
Z
But
it's
not
it's
just
an
extension
of
an
already
existing
one-story
structure,
so
it
seems
an
incredibly
reasonable
way
to
expand
this
facility
without
scraping
the
entire
site.
I.
Finally,
just
want
to
make
a
brief
note
on
the
Practical
difficulties
in
the
use
of
this
site.
Those
absolute
we
exist
here,
starting
with
the
overhead
power
line
that
would
have
to
be
relocated
at
a
substantial
cost
to
get
to
a
required
height,
and
we
outline
some
of
those
things
in
our
petition
in
our
packet
and
I.
Z
Don't
want
to
take
the
time
to
repeat
all
of
those,
but
I
certainly
would
draw
your
attention
to
those
practical
difficulties
that
we
cite
in
our
packet.
The
adaptation
of
this
already
existing
one-story
building
to
accommodate
this
local
business
effort
at
growth
and
success
is
not
only
sound
public
policy,
but
it
really
does
help
promote
local
General
Welfare
of
the
community.
It
creates
no
harm,
no
Prejudice,
no
detriment
to
the
neighboring
properties
and,
as
you
will
see
from
from
the
letters
and
support,
it's
the
opposite
effect.
Z
So
in
this
instance,
relief
from
this
25-foot
standard
meets
the
criteria.
That's
statutorily
required
to
support
a
variance.
We
respectfully
request
that
you
allow
this
reduction
in
height
for
this
project
that,
as
pointed
out
by
Mr
greulich,
otherwise
meets
all
of
the
Udo
requirements
to
allow
this
very
successful
business
to
continue
to
grow
in
this
location.
I
yield
my
time
now
to
one
of
the
owners
of
The
Establishment
Ed,
Ryan
Ed.
B
A
AA
AA
Well,
thank
you
all
for
hanging
in
there
tonight.
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
present
our
story
and
I'm.
Not
a
developer,
but
I
did
have
plenty
of
time
to
read
the
Udo
tonight
and
really
I
think
it
is
a
great
document
and
as
Angela
mentioned,
though
it's
it's
clear
that
you
know
it's
new,
and
this
is
a
developing
process
for
Bloomington,
a
town
that
I've
had
a
58-year
history
with
and
I.
Think
I
can
add
a
little
bit
more
color
to
this
discussion.
Regarding.
Why
we're
doing
this?
AA
You
may
or
may
not
be
familiar
with
the
tent
that
we've
had
off
and
on
in
the
beer
garden.
It's
a
wonderful
addition
to
the
space.
You
know
it's
difficult
to
run
a
restaurant
operation
with
the
the
changing
weather
and
whatnot
in
Indiana.
So
when
we
have
that
tenant
makes
it
much
easier
to
have
a
stable
operation
and
it
really
does
affect
the
profitability
and
viability
of
the
restaurant.
AA
But
the
Fire
Marshall
has
issues
with
tent
structures
being
up
permanently,
so
we
have
to
move
forward
with
development
on
the
space
and
that's
why
we're
proposing
to
do
this.
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
you
know,
I
enjoyed
what
Mr
Throckmorton
said
about.
We
can
talk
round
and
around
about
this,
but
let
me
give
you
reasons
to
Grant
the
variance
the
first
one
is.
AA
No
one
will
see
this
Edition
from
the
street
if
it's
12
feet
tall
and
under
the
mduv
outline
in
the
Udo
I
I
get
the
what's
going
on
in
Bloomington
and
the
Beautiful
structures
are
being
added,
but
that
is
not
what's
happening
here.
This
is
600
square
foot,
addition
to
a
15,
000
square
foot
site.
It
represents
four
percent
of
the
space
and,
as
Angela
said,
putting
a
two-story
addition
in
the
middle
of
these
buildings.
AA
That
doesn't
make
any
sense,
especially
if
it
looks
anything
like
what's
in
you
know
the
drawings
in
the
forward-looking
plan
for
Bloomington,
and
you
know
that
that
gets
right
to
paragraph
four
of
the
purpose
of
the
udos,
protecting
the
character
and
stability
of
the
of
the
area.
I
think
that's
exactly
what
we're
proposing
we
do
here
and
you
know
Angela
mentioned
our
neighbors
all
support
this
I
mean
every
neighbor
supports
it
and
every
guest.
That's
visited
our
site.
We've
had
a
display
up
showing
them.
What
we
want
to
do.
AA
AA
The
purpose
paragraph
two
reduce
Greenhouse
admissions
I
need
a
600
square
foot,
one
story
structure
for
the
comfort
of
my
guests,
which
gets
two
paragraph
three,
but
back
to
paragraph
two.
A
two-story
structure
will
absolutely
positively
create
more
CO2
during
the
construction
process
and
honestly,
I
can't
service
that
a
bigger
space,
the
kitchen
and
the
primary
structure
can
only
feed.
So
many
people
there's
no
way
that
I
mean
I
would
love
nothing
more
to
have
more
seats,
but
there's
no
way
we
can
do
that.
A
You
have
any
questions.
Attempt
okay,
I,
don't
have
any
questions
either.
So
then
we
are
to
the
public
for
any
comments.
Is
there
there's?
No
one
in
the
chamber
who
would
like
to
speak
to
this
I?
Don't
believe.
Is
there
anybody
online
Jackie
nobody's
online
okay?
So
then
we
are
back
to
the
petitioner
for
further
comments.
This
is
your
last
opportunity.
A
Z
I
I
would
do
just
a
really
quick
wrap
up
if
I
might
I
think
we've
got
a
few
more
minutes
on
our
time.
I
don't
want
to
take
up
all
of
our
time,
because
there's
no
reason
to
but
I
think
it's
clear
in
this
case
that
application
of
this
you
know
strict
application
of
this
standard
for
an
addition
like
this
in
an
already
existing
lot
in
building
and
use
serving
and
continuing
to
serve.
Z
This
purpose
really
makes
no
sense,
and
so
it
seems
that
allowing
a
one-story
structure
here
to
accommodate
the
growth
of
this
business
and
and
really
the
difficulty
across
the
board,
as
Mr
Ryan
just
spoke
to
makes
it
makes
it
very
difficult
for
them
to
otherwise
utilize
this
space
and
and
have
the
kind
of
economic
growth
that
we
want
to
promote
in
this
community.
So,
for
those
reasons,
I
think
the
the
findings
would
fall
in
favor
of
granting
a
variance
on
on
this
one
standard.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
So
we
come
a
unique
situation
here
on
this
site,
where
we
have
a
one-story
building
that
looks
like
a
garage
or
an
accessory
structure
to
a
to
a
historic
structure
house
in
this
case,
which
is
the
the
kind
of
main
part
of
the
restaurant
and
because
of
this
previously
existing
building.
This
is
really
just
an
expansion
of
that
building,
so
matching
that
would
would
follow
and
in
additional.
D
A
A
I
would
have
happened
because
relocating
I
I
I'm
happy
to
adopt
those
findings,
although
maybe
striking
the
cost
of
relocating
the
power
line,
because
that
really
isn't
something
that
factors
into
it.
But
I
do
also
want
to
make
a
point
that
this
this
property
is
comprised
primarily
of
a
historic
home.