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A
We
have
two
sets
of
minutes
october,
the
21st
2021.
Do
I
have
a
motion.
B
B
Two
separate
ones:
yes,
let
me
just
pull
those
up,
so
I
will
do
each
one
individually.
B
B
C
Clapper,
yes,
rock
martin,
yes
and
ballard.
Yes,
okay.
Moving
on
to
the
minutes
from
the
november
18th.
A
Meeting
I
will
entertain
a
motion,
move
the
approval
of
the
bza
minutes
from
november.
B
C
C
The
plan
commission,
so
he
will
be
joining
us
this
year
and
we
want
to
say.
C
So,
thank
you
also,
you
received,
or
should
have
received
an
email
earlier
this
afternoon
with.
C
A
number
of
letters
that
were
submitted
for
the
second
conditional
use
petition
on
the
agenda.
This.
C
Evening
that
had
were
inadvertently
omitted
when
the
packet
was
sent
out
so
just
fyi
on.
C
They
came
in
before,
but
when
staff
was
putting
the
packet
when
I
was
putting
the
packet.
C
Together
they
weren't
in
the
folder,
where
the
the
rest
of
the
report
information
was.
So
I
didn't.
C
It
wasn't
my
case,
it
was
a
previous
staff
member,
so
I
didn't
realize
they
were
even
there.
C
So
that
was
my
fault,
I
just
missed
them
and
they
came
in,
I
believe
in
december.
Yes,.
D
C
C
A
A
B
I'll
eliminate
bear
clapper.
A
Yes,
okay,
great
and
for
vice
president,
is
there
a
nomination
for
vice
president.
A
C
Rules
dictate
that
they
be
read
in
order,
but
we
think
addressing
the
use
issue
first,
before.
C
A
So
we
are
ready
to
hear
cu-22-21
aidan
reef.
Can
we
please
have
staff
report.
C
Okay,
can
you
see
my
screen?
We
can
great
so
this
this
petition
is
located
at
1808.
C
South
rogers
street
it
cu,
22-21
and
the
property
is
in
the
r2
zoning
district
and
is.
C
This
is
a
diagram
of
the
home,
so
you
can
see
first
and
second
floors
on
the
left.
C
C
And
those
can
be
seen
here,
the
petitioner
does
meet
these.
I
will
briefly
go
over
them.
C
C
C
Able
to
operate
within
the
hours
of
operation
no
commercially
licensed
vehicles
required.
C
And
no
deliveries
anticipated
to
the
site
outside
of
what
you
would
find
for
a
typical.
C
This
petition
does
comply
with
the
udo
and
other
applicable
regulations.
They
will
have.
C
C
Character
of
single
family
residential,
which
this
petition
does
by
not.
C
Proposing
to
do
any
of
their
use
outside
or
even
in
accessory
structures,
so
consistent
with.
C
C
At
the
house
and
again
with
this
petition,
there
are
no
exterior
changes
planned.
They.
C
Are
able
to
operate
within
the
hours
allowed
for
home
occupation
and
no
exterior.
C
C
C
County
health
department
standards
for
their
use
before
their
conditional
use
permit
can
be.
C
C
This
is
the
petitioner.
Yes,
okay,
there,
you
are
okay,
great,
please
state
your
name
eden
wreath.
F
It's
all
done
at
this
residence
at
my
home
in
the
kitchen,
and
I
use
the
monroe
county
board
of.
F
Health
indiana
code,
1642
528,
which
is
code
for
home-based
vendors.
So
it's
all
done
in
the
home.
F
And
I
only
sell
at
farmers
markets
just
any
baked
goods
breads
donuts
stuff,
like
that.
F
I
do
all
my
baking
since
I
do
farmers
markets
on
saturday.
I
do
all
my
baking
on
fridays.
F
Beforehand,
between
the
hours
of
operation
given
and
then
I
sell
it
at
the
farmers
market.
A
A
Raise
your
hand
in
the
participants
section
to
let
us
know
that
you
would
like
to
speak.
F
A
C
C
Schematic
here
of
what
they
are
planning
to
do,
the
request
is
for
five
units,
town
home
style.
C
Units
three
bedrooms:
each
a
three-story
building
with
parking
underneath
and
you
can
see
with.
C
And
then
here
is
the
architectural
view
of
what
these
are
expected
to
look
like
again,
the.
C
Top
view
it
would
be
from
hillside,
but
of
course,
if
you're
familiar
with
this
area,.
C
We
have
a
number
of
proposed
findings.
The
udo
already
restricts
maximum
floor
plate
for
student.
C
C
About
3
500
square
feet,
as
I
mentioned
the
grade
change
the
petitioner
already
received.
C
C
Discussing
the
front
parking
setback,
variance
request
next
after
this
petition
is
finished,.
C
Additionally,
udo
also
has
a
specific
standard
requiring
separation
of
the
use
of
student.
C
Housing
or
dormitory
and
that
of
300
feet
and
there
are
no
no
uses
within
that
buffer.
C
So
here
we
are
for
excuse
me
for
particularly
for
conditional
use
number.
C
Residential
and
it
is
also
in
the
edge
of
one
of
our
focus
areas-
switch
yard,
north
focus
area.
C
C
Hillside,
which
has
access
to
bloomington
transit
routes,
as
well
as
one
property
east
from
walnut.
C
And
is
primed
for
redevelopment
and
discussion
and
you
can
see
that.
C
Urban
residential
also
calls
for
redevelopment
of
vacant
lots
which
this
property
is
and.
C
C
To
the
north,
primarily
single
family,
neighbor
to
the
north,
excuse
me
and
also
immediately.
C
Adjacent
to
walnut
and
again,
you
can
also
see
here
in
this
map
from
the
comprehensive.
C
Student
housing-
it
also
already
has
an
existing
variance
so
that
the
property
can
be
developed.
C
While
keeping
the
interface
between
the
public
right-of-way
for
the
pedestrians.
C
And
and
the
site
open
so
that
you
can
access
the
site
directly
from
the
road
as
a
pedestrian.
C
C
Again
for
conditional
use,
minimize
mitigate
adverse
impacts
specifically
to
natural.
C
Scenic
and
squirt
features
on
the
site
that
will
be
impacted.
There
are
none.
C
So
we
do
not
foresee
adverse
impacts
to
those
as
they
don't
exist.
Additionally,.
C
Three-Bedroom
units
they
fit
our
definition
of
student
housing
or
dormitory,
which
is
that
if.
C
33
or
more
of
your
units,
our
three-bedroom,
then
you
are
bumped
into
that
definition
and.
C
Then
you
have
some
of
those
specific
you
specific
standard
restrictions
that
I
mentioned.
C
Earlier
that
other
multi-family
would
not
have
so,
those
standards
are
already
kind
of.
C
Limiting
the
develop
development
ability
on
this
site
so
that,
even
though
there.
C
Are
more
bedrooms
per
unit?
The
overall
site
size
of
the
building
is
restricted.
C
C
C
Is
required
before
construction
can
begin
and,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
there
were.
C
Some
remonstrance,
you
received
summer
monsters
emails
in
for
letters
in
the
packet
and
then
some.
C
A
Questions
until
that
time,
okay,
so
now
we
are
to
the
petitioner,
the
petitioner's
representative.
I
Yeah,
my
name
is
tim
hanson
of
ws
property
group.
I
don't
know
if
we
get
video,
jackie,
it's
okay.
C
Do
video
for
petitioners
we
try
not
to
do
video
for
petitioners
or
members
of
the
public.
C
Makes
your
screen
kind
of
fall
yeah!
Thank
you!
Okay,
okay!
So,
mr
hanson,
you
have
up
to
20
minutes.
A
To
present
your
petition,
can
I
share
my
screen
jackie
yes
hold
on.
I
can
set
you
up
just
a
second.
C
Him:
okay:
here
we
go
yep,
we
got
it,
you
can
see
sketchup
depiction.
I
Okay,
I
wanted
to
run
through
the
project
and
describe
because
there's
a
lot
of
things
that.
I
I
Know
if
that
was
by
the
city
or
the
county
and
the
building
was
raised,
I
think
by
the
city.
I
And
became
a
vacant
lot
during
the
city's
improvement
on
hillside
drive.
I
Build
five
townhomes
and
have
kind
of
staircase
walk
up
brownstone
type
access
to
those.
I
Kind
of
has
a
narrow
definition.
I
think
from
what
I
think
we're
used
to
in
the
past.
I
Of
what
student
housing
is,
I
think
of
student
housing
and
I
think
of
projects
like
evolve
on.
I
I
And
again
we
were
looking
to
do
a
brownstone
type
project
that
would
have
maximum
flexibility.
I
I
This
could
also
serve
empty
nesters
people
moving
to
the
community
that
have
the
need
for.
I
More
than
a
one
bedroom
or
two
bedroom
place
to
store
two
vehicles
and
that's
why,
in
the
later.
I
We
believe,
like
staff,
that
this
fits
in
the
context
of
the
neighborhood.
It
helps
separate.
I
I
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
so
we
are
to
the
board
for
questions
of
staff
or
the
petitioner.
A
Joe
yeah,
I'm
I've
been
having
a
little
trouble
with
my
packet,
so
I've
been
scrolling
back
and.
B
I
B
And
then
this
would
look
a
lot
like
the
units
that
are
down
on
7th
street
just
off
washington.
B
Sale
or
only
rentals,
currently
rentals,
okay
and
the
last
question
is:
are
any
of
them.
I
I
Process,
I
I
think,
needs
to
be.
I
think,
if
there's
work
to
be
an
advantage
to
all
parties.
I
B
Last,
lastly,
barry
so
if
someone
were
to
call
in.
B
I
A
Criteria
to
conditional
uses
has
to
deal
has
to
do
with
you
know,
meeting
the
objectives.
A
Was
there
a
neighborhood
meeting
required
of
this
petition.
C
C
Use
yeah
conditional
uses
in
and
of
themselves
do
not
require
neighborhood
association
meetings.
A
Here
at
the
the
number
four
under
what
is
it
the
minimizes
and
mitigates
adverse
impacts?
It.
A
Just
says
that
the
petitioner
shall
make
a
good
faith
effort
to
address
concerns
of
the
adjoining.
C
A
Other
questions,
I
have
a
question.
Yes,
this
is
for
jackie,
so
jackie,
so
they
have.
This
is
already.
D
Multi-Residential,
so
they
already
buy
right.
They
can
build.
C
C
These
townhome
style
that
would
not
have
three
bedrooms
and
that
could
have
been
done
by
right.
D
Yes,
it's
because
they're
three
bedroom,
okay,
yeah,
but
I
mean
I
understand
it
by.
D
A
Do
you
so
just
just
a
question
on
that?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
completely
understand.
A
A
I
A
I
And
then
to
show
ours,
I
didn't
model
anything
north
of
the
or
east
of
the.
A
A
I
I
And
so
the
entire
grade
of
this
area
sat
up
kind
of
on
a
level
plane,
mm-hmm.
I
So
the
wall-
oh
my
god,
I've
got
my
shading
on.
Let's
turn
it
off.
I
I
I
I
I
Same
same
distance,
so
when
we
bought,
we
want
to
understand
this
interaction
because
we
bought.
C
Unfit
and
taken
down
dangerous-
and
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
at
that
time,
with
the
store.
C
C
Open,
but
this
is
kind,
this
is
what
it
the
picture
is
from
2019,
but
you
know
one.
C
Will
come
down
so
this
will
be
regraded
in
some
ways
to
be
lowered
here
at
the
interface
so.
C
B
C
The
brian
park,
when
they
established
their
own
neighborhood
association,
they
did
not
include.
B
B
C
So
all
of
those
owners
did
receive
letters
and
I
don't
believe
and
I'm
sure
they
can
correct
me.
C
If
I'm
wrong,
that
any
of
the
remonstrances
you've
received
are
from
any
adjacent
property.
C
Owners
they're
just
from
people
who
live
in
the
area
or
not
actually
some
of
them,
but
I.
A
In
the
packet
someone
had
written
and
said
that
that
sign
actually
had
not
been
posted
so
but.
A
B
I
have
nothing
against
student
housing
in
town.
I'm
concerned
that
if
this
project
is
built.
B
B
B
B
C
If
I
may,
I
do
think
people
know
about
it.
I
mean
first
of
all,
there's
a
lot
of
people
here.
C
Part
of
the
reason
you're
seeing
the
next
variance
is
that
there
was
some
non-allowed
outreach.
C
From
a
council
city
council
member
to
the
hearing
officer
about
that
petition
because
they.
C
From
people
in
the
bryan
park
neighborhood
so,
and
that
was
in
december
when
that
was
supposed.
C
To
be
heard,
so
I
do
think
there
have
been
conversations
and
information
being
distributed
in.
C
A
L
Of
speckled
in
there
but
south
of
hillside
as
the
example
1501
and
1503,
I
believe
that's.
L
That's
housing,
I
don't
know
if
we
have
just
a
sense
of
like
what
the
breakdown
might
be
for
this.
C
A
Okay,
I
think
we're
ready
to
go
to
the
public.
Is
there
anyone
here
from
the
public.
A
Who
would
like
to
speak
to
this
position
this
evening?
Please
raise
your
hand
in
the
chat.
A
I'm
sorry
in
the
participants
section
and
and
or
let
us
know
through
chat.
C
Okay,
I'm
just
getting
our
speaker
time
clock
set
up
here
and
then
I.
M
I
do
you
have
up
to
five
minutes
to
to
speak.
N
Okay
may,
if,
before
I
start
speaking
may
I
share
my
screen
and
I
have
some
photos.
I'd
like
to
share.
C
Using
the
screen
so
I'll
give
you
a
one
minute
time
if
we
get
that
far
okay,
great.
Thank
you.
N
Okay,
okay,
so
my
name
is
jan
sorby
and
I
live
in
bryant
park
neighborhood
and
I
own
a
four.
N
Plex
right
up
the
street
from
this
project,
and
I'm
here
tonight
to
ask
you
to
deny
this
request.
N
N
N
East-West
corridor
through
the
city
and
two,
the
development
pattern
is
radically
radically.
N
This
photo
that
the
proposed
development
will
happen
behind
that
greenery
on
the
hill.
N
Excuse
me
this:
you
can
also
see
the
intersection
of
hillside
and
washington.
Washington
will
most.
N
Likely
be
where
residents
and
visitors
will
park,
there
is
no
northwest
crosswalk.
N
Because
the
sight
lines
are
really
horrible,
if
anybody's
trying
to
cross
there,
you
know
in
a
car.
N
Or
on
on
foot,
you
can
see
that
the
house
is
so
close
to
the
street.
You
have
to
really
really
inch.
N
You
have
to
creep
up
and
get
between
the
autos.
You
still
have
to
look
east
or
west.
N
Depending
on
which
way
you're
going
regardless,
the
driver
is
never
looking
for
pedestrians.
N
N
N
C
Just
under
a
minute,
jan
sorry,
okay,
okay
and
then
this
is
the
next
street
that
runs.
N
The
apartment
building
down
at
the
corner
was
given
a
variance,
so
they
wouldn't
have
to
provide.
N
N
C
A
O
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
read
the
letter
that
I
sent
because.
O
But
I
can't
get
to
my
letter,
can
I
I
seem
to
be
sharing
jackie
sat
scanlon's
screen.
O
A
And
exit
full
screen
so
that
you
can
see
your
screen
as
well,
you
can
just
press
escape.
C
C
Okay,
okay,
okay,
here
we
go,
I
had
seen
it
before
so
I
knew
it
was
still
there.
O
This
was
addressed
to
the
previous
case
manager.
I
sent
this
in
december.
O
To
her
okay,
I
am
the
owner
of
an
adjacent
property
at
1517,
south
walnut
street,
my
property.
O
So
I
was
thoroughly
confused
and
I
never
got
a
call
back.
So,
okay
continue
with
the
letter.
O
O
P
A
A
P
South
washington,
so
just
under
two
blocks
away
from
the
proposed
site.
I
share
the
concerns.
P
Of
the
two
prior
speakers,
I
think
I
think
pedestrian
safety.
I
I
do
appreciate
the
the
tree.
P
Line-
and
I
think
that
is
a
great
boon,
but
I
am
concerned
about
cars
coming
out
of
that
alley.
P
Even
more
difficult
to
navigate
that
corridor,
I
think
a
smaller
project
would
probably.
P
Be
fine
but
15
beds
seems
excessive
for
the
location
and
I
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
Thank
you.
C
Mr
johnson
yeah
hi,
my
name
is
colin
johnson.
I'm
can
you
hear
me.
Q
A
A
Minute
left
thanks.
Okay,
thank
you.
My
name
is
colin
johnson.
I
own
the
property
at
300,
east
hillside.
Q
Drive,
which
I
believe
is
four
or
five
houses
down
the
street
into-
and
I
take
exception.
Q
Q
And
it's
very
much
a
neighborhood
so
but
in
any
event
technically
I
understand
what.
Q
You're
saying,
but
certainly
the
south
side
of
hillside
interacts
with
the
north
side
of
hillside.
Q
As
if
it
were
part
of
bryant
park,
regardless
of
how
it's
actually
understood
by
the
city,.
Q
And
I
believe
you
received
it
in
among
the
letters
that
were
circulated
this
evening.
Q
Prior
to
this
meeting,
it
wasn't
included
in
the
packet,
so
I
made
some
comments.
There.
Q
The
relationship
between
this
proposed
development
and
the
bus
line,
which
I
understand
for
the.
Q
Purposes
of
city
planning
is
cited
as
a
kind
of
an
amenity
and
a
necessity
for
the
purpose
of.
Q
Q
Stands
right
now
and
there's
not
much
that
can
be
done
about
that!
I'm
happy
that
we
have
public.
Q
Q
The
number
seven
bus
when
people
are
departing
or
going
that's
without
this
development
in
place.
Q
Q
Bus
stop
that
the
number
of
people
who
loiter
within
seven
feet
of
my
front
door
waiting
for
the.
Q
Bus
often
like
stepping
all
over
my
lawn
would
increase
even
more
so
that's
one
concern.
Q
That
I
have
to
be
sure
given
where
I
live.
My
house
is
on
a
lot
and
a
half
and
I
have
a
parking.
Q
Space,
that
is
our
space,
that
is
right
off
of
hillside
drive
as
it
stands
already.
Q
A
result
already
of
the
fact
that
there
are
a
lot
of
renters
sort
of
you
know
around,
which
is.
Q
By
previous
commentators
that
the
era's
area
is
quite
congested
as
it
is,
and
I
understand.
Q
Really
add
a
lot
of
kind
of
complication
to
the
day-to-day
lives
of
the
people
who
own
here
and.
Q
Live
here
so
so
I
have
serious
concerns
about
that.
I
would
note
too
I
hadn't
actually
noted.
Q
Q
Hillside
because
it
actually
is
kind
of
not
in
line
with
the
sidewalk
as
it
currently
exists,.
Q
And
if
we
got
to
a
point
where
the
kind
of
you
know
the
growth
of
the
neighborhood
of
the.
Q
Street
sort
of
started
to
project
further
downhill
side
from
that
development.
I'm
I'm
very.
Q
Q
Q
The
sidewalk
runs
on
the
south
side
of
hillside.
I
mean
you
can
see
in
the
proposal
that.
Q
Concern
would
be
that
fairly
quickly.
That
would
become
kind
of
the
normalized.
Q
Run
of
the
sidewalk
yeah
30
seconds,
mr
johnson,
so
I
I
have
serious
concerns
about
those
things.
A
A
R
The
just
one
second
hey
joe,
would
you
turn
that
down.
R
The
so
the
neighborhood
line
is
at
hillside,
so
this
property
is
like
15
feet.
R
A
number
of
us
found
out
about
this
just
by
chance
and
we're
starting
to
pay
attention
to
it.
R
R
So
that
there's
that
problem
and
so
on
to
my
next
point,
I
just
want
to
say
two
things
that
the.
R
R
R
R
R
That
drawing
had
the
roof
line
as
tall
as
the
third
story
of
that
building.
R
Building
collection
was
so
much
smaller
than
it's
going
to
be,
so
I
just
thought
I'd
point
it
out,
so
I
please
ask
that
you
reject
this
proposal.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Deborah
deborah,
can
you
please
state
your
name,
I'm
deborah
piston
hatland.
Can
you
hear
me.
A
To
start
a
moment,
do
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth
the
whole
truth
and
nothing,
but
the
truth.
S
S
1200
block
is
right,
south
of
grimes,
and
so
you
know,
there's
a
stop
sign
there
and
even
where
I.
S
I
Monstrance
first,
you
know,
you
know,
there's
some
discussion
about
the
congested
nature
of.
I
About
parking
per
se,
but
these
are
set
up
to
park
in
a
garage
like
the
last
remonstrator
said.
I
I
Heard
you
know
regarding
negatives,
about
the
location,
this
site,
along
with
all
the
property.
I
Along
hillside
on
the
south
side
of
hillside,
at
least
two
streets,
south
is
zoned
multi-family.
I
Three-Story
12
unit
buy
right.
If
you
will
considered
by
the
code
non-student
housing.
I
For
different
types
of
users,
whether
they
be
again
empty,
nesters
people
coming
to
the.
I
I
I
Other
than
the
sidewalks
to
allow
pedestrians
to
walk
up
this
hill
that
was
created
just.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
hansen.
We
are
back
to
the
board,
so
if
the
board
has.
A
Questions
now
any
further
questions.
This
is
the
time
to
oh
there's,
a
comment.
A
A
A
T
T
T
T
T
A
Further
questions,
first
of
the
of
the
staff
or
petitioner,
and
then
I
will
entertain
a
motion.
A
But
I
do
have
some
further
questions
that
I'd
like
to
do
before
we
before
we
put
a.
A
Emotion
on
the
table,
jackie,
can
you
please
explain
a
little
bit.
C
Bulk
height
requirements,
then
you
can
have
as
many
units
or
as
many
beds
as
you
can.
Can
the
udo.
C
Were
restricting
housing,
so
instead
we
went
to
a
more
modern
way
of
of
having
the
development.
C
Bit
less
important,
but
we
do
have,
we
do
live
in
a
college
town.
There
is
a
lot
of
concern
about.
C
Student
housing
for
decades,
the
plan
commission
has
been
talking
about
four
and
five
bedroom
units.
C
Three
beds
that
you
would
also
be
classified
to
student
housing.
C
C
For
larger
developments,
but
obviously
this
is
a
new
regulation
for
us
again
coming
in
in
early.
C
2020,
and
so
what
we
are,
how
we're
seeing
it
bear
out
is
that
it's
catching
small
developments.
C
C
To
mr
balor's
question,
we
were
able
to
briefly
look
it
up.
It's
almost
entirely.
C
We
don't
value
owners
more
than
renters,
though
that
is
something
we
often
hear
in
the
public.
C
Comments-
and
you
heard
slightly
echoed
again
today,
but
you
know
this
area
is
zoned
multifamily
and.
C
C
Be
appropriate
for
that
and
you're
right
if
there
weren't
the
three-bedroom
units,
if
this
was.
C
A
A
Correct
in
the
previous
code-
and
we
just
haven't
seen
a
lot
of
these
types
of
variances.
C
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
okay,
okay,
does
anybody
else
have
questions
for
jackie
are
for
the
petitioner.
E
All
right,
so
I
would
ask
a
question
of
the
petitioner,
then
you
of
course
you
can.
B
B
B
U
Well-
and
this
may
be
parsing
words
originally,
when
we
were
developing
this
project,
we
had
a.
I
10
unit
stacked
flats,
one
beds,
parking
behind
10
parking
spaces,
10
beds
and
that's
when
we.
I
I
Six
and
a
half
feet,
and
we
needed
to
do
that
and
we
had
put
in
that
request
to
do
when
we
did.
I
That
I
felt
fit
the
property,
we
could
park
the
property
and
that's
what
we
moved
forward
to.
I
Treated
density,
bedroom,
makeup,
etc,
and
it
wasn't
until.
I
I
I
I
I
I
C
I
B
A
A
C
C
C
The
use
is
allowed
on
site,
then
you
can
have
as
many
units
as
you
can
fit
within
those
parameters.
C
C
C
With
another
building
just
fyi
because
I
had
said,
I
thought
this
might
be
our
first
one:
okay,.
A
Okay,
could
you
comment
on
some
of
the
infrastructure
challenges
of
this.
A
Area
which
I
think
are
very
real-
and
the
proximity
particularly
to
the
intersection.
A
That
has
a
significant
slope,
there's
that
you
know
narrow,
just
a
narrow
right-of-way
there.
A
Any
blocks
on
the
south
side,
I
mean
they're
quite
large.
I
think
between.
C
C
Where
we
want
them
right,
I
mean
we've
heard
in
the
discussions
when
we've
updated
the
code.
C
Don't
want
these
things
on
our
local
streets,
you
know
gumming
up
our
single
family
trips.
C
Used
here
is
already
being
used,
miss
duffy
spoke
she's,
not
actually
an
immediate
neighbor.
C
And
the
other
properties
along
walnut
use
that
for
her
rental
property
excuse
me
use
that.
C
For
access
so
that
alley
and
its
location
and
its
site
distances
are
already
being
used.
C
There
is
no
limit,
you
know
kind
of
on
the
number
of
cars
that
can
use
it.
Now,
if
we
add.
C
C
Is
dangerous
again,
is
this
area
busy?
Yes,
it
is,
will
adding
a
tree
plot
help
with.
C
Sight
distance,
using
going
in
and
out
of
that
alley,
I
think
that
it
will
and
speaking
to.
C
C
C
So
there
is
more
room
here
down
here
to
the
west
to
make
some
of
those
improvements.
C
C
C
Three-Ish,
you
know
smaller
scale,
rentals
that
are
located
here
and
so
then
this
site.
C
Would
have
only
driveway
and
then
parking
underneath
instead
of
having
all
of
this.
C
Alley,
I
I
think
it
will
add
some
trips,
but
I
don't
think
it's
a
disproportionate
amount.
C
For
what
is
appropriate
for
this
area,
I
think
the
you
know
future.
C
Some
sort
of
redevelopment-
you
know
this
isn't
a
displacement
situation.
This
is
a
vacant
lot.
C
Even
the
conditional
use
standards
are
written
in
such
a
way
that
we
have
way
to
weight
all.
C
Of
them,
and
that
we
can
say
that,
yes,
that
that
this
request
meets
those
requirements,
including.
C
To
go
through
site
plan
approval
which
does
get
you
know
extensive,
extensive
review
through.
C
Hanson
on
what
is
a
safe,
you
know
if,
if
improvements
need
to
be
made
to
that
alley,.
C
They
will
ask
him
to
do
that,
and
so
that
could
be
a
benefit
as
well
to
some
of
the
other
property.
C
Owners
who
who
currently
use
it?
Okay,
mr
hanson,
I
just
have
a
question
for
you-
is
the
is
the
front.
I
Let
me
look,
we
were
just
kind
of
trying
to
adhere
to
our
kind
of
setback
criteria.
I
I
think
I
know
it
sits
further
back
than
what
is
to
the
east
or
sorry
what
is
to
the
west.
I
To
the
east,
we
are
pretty
much
in
line
with
the
the
front
of
the
porch
on
that
house,
so
we're.
I
I
Front
massing,
there's
three
foot
jog
in
the
building,
so
I
I'd
say
we're
within
five
feet.
A
I
Just
going
from
my
sketchup
model,
we
tried
to
offset
the
there's
a
20-foot
driveway
behind
the.
I
You
could
have
a
parked
vehicle
behind
the
building
for
a
guest.
There's,
there's
not.
I
Auxiliary
parking
that
would
be
what
is
a
current
standard
with
16
by
eight
and
a
half
foot.
C
We
will
sorry
we
will.
I
don't
know
that
you
can
have
15
spaces
here
because
of
the
way
that
the.
C
Hold
on,
let
me
pull
the
packet
up,
you
are
you
asking
for
sorry,
barry
the
just
a
site
plan.
B
C
I
C
There's
a
restriction
on
that
based
on
bedrooms,
so
does
that
believe?
11
is
the
maximum
for.
C
Oh,
I
think
it's
sight
parking,
but
let
me
double
check,
I
will
say
I
I
do
think.
C
A
To
park
kind
of
perpendicular
to
the
yeah,
just
a
second
sorry
eric
you
have
it
faster
than
I
do.
K
S
A
Clarifications:
okay,
then
we're
ready
to.
H
I'll
move
to
approve
the
motion
with
the
conditions,
as
stated
in
the.
A
Okay,
do
we
have
a
second.
D
H
Is
a
better
solution
than
10
one
bedrooms
or
12
one
bedrooms
that
he
could
you
know
they.
H
Just
a
you
know:
a
monetary
one
if
you
will
based
on
what
I've
heard
and
I
think.
H
B
I
agree
that
I
think
that
the
developers
is
they're
being
thoughtful
about
it.
So
I
I
agree.
B
B
B
B
B
Granting
this
variance,
without,
I
guess
conditional
use,
is
it
conditional
use
for.
B
Questions
out
there
that
that
I
don't
think
the
developer
was
aware
of
well,
I.
A
You
know
be
more
significant,
so
and
I'll
I'll
say
that
you
know
I'm.
I
think
this
is
a
really.
A
Exciting
opportunity
to
do
a
great
infill
project
on
this
site,
I
would
feel
more
comfortable.
A
About
the,
I
think,
I
think
the
idea
of
a
townhouse
is
appropriate
and
is
a
is
a
nice
transitional.
A
Because
I
think
in
in
the
context
I
I
do
think
that
the
the
representation
of
the
bungalow.
A
It
was
much
taller
than
it
actually
is.
I
mean
it's
a
story
and
a
half
building
and
we're.
A
Talking
about
a
three
and
a
half
story
building,
and
in
particular
in
particular
hillside
is
a.
A
Extra
sensitivity
to
the
height
issue
is
is,
would
really
be
the
difference
between
having
a.
A
A
project
here
and
having
a
really
successful
project
for
the
whole
area.
A
And
I
well,
I
think
that
that
this
is
a
good
direction.
I
I
I
think
that
there
are
some
ways
to.
A
Do
it
architecturally
that
would
make
the
project
feel
like
it
really
belongs
in
the
neighborhood.
A
And,
and
so
I
feel
like
there's
still
the
scale
issue
to
me
in
terms
of
you
know,.
A
Part
of
our
purview
is
thinking
about
this
in
context
with
the
the
comp
plan,
because
you
know.
A
And
and
adding
housing
adding
you
know,
diversity
of
housing
types
and
all
this,
and
I
and.
A
And
so
so
I
I
think
that
there's
there
is
some
some
room.
Definitely
room
for
improvement.
A
A
way
to
to
kind
of
graduate
that
height
also
to
again
be
a
little
bit
more
context.
A
A
A
This,
but
at
this
point
I
still
feel
like
I
have
enough
questions
that
I
I
don't
know
if
you.
A
Now
we
do
have
a
emotion
on
on
the
table
so
either
that
would
have
to
be
withdrawn.
A
Or
if
we
were
to
deny
that
move
for
approval,
could
we
have
a
second
motion,
jackie.
D
Sorry
so,
as
I
understand
correctly,
you
know
we
are
the
busy
a
so
we
are
here
for.
D
You
know
a
variance
not
for
design
standards
or
how
the
building
should
work.
I
understand
we
have.
D
And
work
with
both
which
staff
has
has
proposed
and
said
and
said
that
it
does
work.
D
D
It
will
get
caught
so
planning
we'll
have
to
decide
and
make
sure
that
it.
D
And
they
are
able
to
walk
to
the
park
across
the
street.
I
think
staff
has
done
a
fabulous
job
of.
D
Want
and
that's
why
I'm
voting
yes,
details
about
how
this
is
going
to
look.
C
C
Review
so
I
believe
that
staff
level,
but
yes,
all
of
the
things
that
we've
discussed
that
aren't.
C
Really
in
the
purview
of
the
use
like
impervious
surface
height
bulk,
those
are
addressed
at
the.
A
C
C
C
B
An
exception
to
the
rules
so,
what's
interesting
about
this
particular
request,
is
there
there.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
C
C
C
C
C
C
Particular
use
create
nuisance
by
reason
of
noise
smoke,
odors
vibrations,
objectionable
light.
C
B
C
B
That's
that
is
beyond
what
was
where,
where
they
need
to
come
and
then
ask
first
for
that.
B
B
K
K
K
K
B
B
B
This
neighborhood
need
five
units
with
three
bedrooms,
and
the
neighborhood
is
questioning
in
it.
B
A
B
L
The
concerns
of
the
neighbor
of
the
neighbors
in
that
neighborhood,
but
I
I
also
I
appreciate
the.
L
The
effect
and
jackie,
I
appreciate
you
looking
that
up
because
you
know
I'm
a
numerous
person.
L
L
And
while
I
appreciate
the
unoccupied
concerns,
I
also
think
there's
from
the
investor.
L
Comprehensive
plan,
I
think
it's
the
concerns
about
safety
and
things
like
that
is
there.
Data.
L
L
L
Out
there
versus
you
know
people's
opinions
on
it
and
I
think
just
one
final
note
is.
L
How
this
a
few
spots
is
going
to
really
impact
the
parking
that
much
more,
it
seems.
L
A
The
safety
of
that
intersection
or
concerns
around
that
intersection.
I
know
the
traffic
count.
C
On
that
portion
hillside
it's
about
9
000
a
day
right
now,
eric,
I
don't
know
if
you.
C
Found
anything
else,
no,
I
mean
we
don't.
I
think,
we've
heard
in
other
settings
from
engineering.
C
Staff
when
we've
had
questions
like
this
at
plan,
commission
meetings,
you
know
the
idea
that.
C
C
Type
of
question,
with
much
higher
numbers
for
larger
developments
and
and
been
told
no.
C
A
A
Ws
property
group
staff
report-
please
great,
thank
you.
This
is
also
the
property
located
at
106.
C
East
hillside
drive.
I
would
also
like
to
address
the
addressing
when
the
letters
went
out
was.
C
Immediately
to
the
east
here
110,
so
they
shared
an
address,
but
they,
since
there
used
to
be
a
house.
C
C
C
Of
the
building
we
just
discussed,
which
is
five
three-bedroom
town
homes
in
the
rm
zoning
district.
C
Here
is
the
site
plan
that
you
saw
with
the
previous
petition
and
again
they
would
be.
C
Vehicular
parking
on
the
first
floor
with
access
from
the
south
side,
the
staff
finds.
C
Roughly,
I
think
in
just
under,
I
believe,
30
to
35
feet
deep
around
32
feet
deep,
so.
C
As
mr
hanson
said,
a
second
tier
of
spaces
would
still
not
quite
meet
so
any
parking
to
be.
C
Allowed
in
the
building,
which
is
pretty
standard
in
town
homes,
would
need
a
variance
request.
C
Again
in
this
area,
as
we've
said,
there
is
no
on
street
parking
opportunities
along
hillside.
C
Parking
is
appropriate
and
because
of
the
limited
depth
of
this
parcel
having
surface
parking.
C
Behind
the
building
is
not
feasible,
which
was
the
original
plan,
as
mr
hanson
described
with
the.
C
Original
stacked
flats
design
that
they
were
going
to
use
realized
the
property.
C
This
location,
ground
for
parking
being
typical
for
this
type
of
development,
and
you
know.
C
Also
wanting
to
be
sensitive
to
something
that
we
hear
often,
which
is
a
concern
about.
C
Though,
in
fact
it
is
for
all
members
of
the
public
so
allowing
on-site
parking
here.
C
And
approve
the
2321
with
the
conditions
that
grading
permit
will
be
required
before.
C
I
will
reiterate
that
the
current
code
only
allows
11
parking
spaces
here,
even
with
the
11
parking.
C
Spaces,
obviously,
this
variance
is
still
needed,
so
so
the
variance
does
need
to
go
forward.
Even
if.
I
I
I
guess,
as
petitions
go
is
a
gray
area,
at
least
for
me.
I
From
april,
through
the
course
of
about
17
emails
into
june,
work
through
the
issues
of.
I
The
front
yards,
the
setbacks,
the
staircases,
the
sidewalks
et
cetera
and.
I
Along
the
back
of
five
town
homes,
the
water
has
got
to
go
somewhere,
so
we
had
to.
I
I
I
I
Our
consultant,
who
was
working
on
this
on
another
project
where
they
had
issue
with
the
same.
I
I
I
Of
the
front
wall
line
in
a
town
home,
I
mean
I'll
somewhat
add
to
that,
uniquely
in
the
code.
H
H
H
Practical
impact
of
that
well,
technically
again,
what
jackie
explained
the
the
building's
35.
I
And
a
half
feet
deep.
And
if
you
took
20
feet
that
you
were
not
allowed
to
park
in.
I
And
leave
about
15
feet
to
park.
Standard
garage
is
about
20
feet
deep.
C
I'll
add
sorry!
So
in
the
original
plan,
when
we
started
before
the
code
update
again
as
tim.
C
Said
this
was
stacked
flats
and
there
was
parking
behind
on
the
sorry
open
parking
on
the
back.
C
Of
the
lot,
but
when
they
realized
how
short
the
lot
was,
then
they
reconfigured
and
built
and.
C
C
20
foot
back
from
a
front
wall
of
multi-family,
the
idea
being
that
then
the
interface
between
the.
C
Which
is
something
that
we
have
seen
and
isn't
very
successful
to
tim's
point
this
hasn't
been.
C
C
C
C
No
opportunity
for
parking
on
this
site
the
way
that
the
way
that
it
is
designed,
because.
A
The
difficulty
with
the
parking
being
satisfied
any
other
way
it's
and
the
depth.
C
Of
this
lot,
because
surface
parking
is
the
term
I've
been
eluding
me
because
surface.
C
Parking
would
be
typical
for
multi-family
use,
you
know
is
often
what
people
use.
C
A
A
C
I
think
it's
the
depth
that
is,
makes
it
difficult
because
of
the
a
combination
of
the.
C
C
Slightly
larger
than
that,
even
on
our
smaller
smaller
lots
in
town
slightly
deeper.
C
That,
then,
it
squeezes
the
area
areas
required
for
buffer
yard
and
building
and
parking
setback.
C
H
I
Is
that
for
me,
yeah
sorry,
if,
if
you
look
at
what
jackie
has
on
the
screen,
yeah.
I
And
this
this
may
give
some
perspective
to
barry
oops.
Sorry,
sorry.
I
The
ten
foot
building
setback-
that's
shown
there
and
and
part
of
what
led
to
this
being.
I
Foreshortened,
if
you
will
well
I'll
answer
your
question,
you're
saying
from.
I
The
sidewalk
to
the
building
you're
you
or
the
the
right
of
way
right.
I
I
I
I
If
you
will
went
to
where
the
electric
boxes
were
on
ariel
that
isn't
reality,
what
reality
is.
I
I
I
I
I
I
The
driveway's
shown
is
at
the
alley
grade
and
ends
up
being
flat
along
the
top
side
of
the
lot.
H
Feet
back
from
you're
about
you're
about
20
feet
back
from
the
right-of-way
from
where
the.
I
A
Rising,
we
we
go
up
and
actually
transition
out
across
the
slope
on
the
alley.
I
I
There's
a
transition
of
about
three
feet
still
up
from
the
alley
onto
the
site,
and
then
we
have.
I
Great
so
when
you
come
up
off
the
alley.
I
I
On
top
there's,
you
know
about
two
and
a
half
feet
that
grade
across
the
units
and
again
they're.
I
A
I
just
out
of
curiosity:
do
you
guys,
did
you
consider
it
all
pushing
the
parking
down.
A
A
Have
to
to
work
to
with
your
with
you
know,
with
the
parking,
because
it
was
very
typical
to
find.
I
If
you
pop
that
up
again,
jackie
on
the
south
east
side
of
the
site,.
I
In
on
the
south
west
side,
where
just
off
the
corner,
there
there's
some
existing
utility
boxes,.
I
I
H
Okay:
okay,
any
other
questions,
if
not
we'll
go
to
to
the
public
for
comment.
A
Okay,
if
we're
not
seeing
anyone,
then
we
are
back
to
the
petitioner,
who
has
the
opportunity.
A
To
add
any
further
comments
you
might
wish.
I
Not
a
lot
further
comments
want
one
again,
it's
it's.
This
isn't
the
job
of
the
bca
to.
I
I
I
Room
makes
that
20-foot
setback
tough.
So
and
again
I
understand
what
the
use
of
it
was
for,
but.
I
It's
a
unique
situation,
that's
why
we're
at
the
bza-
and
I
I
can't,
although
we've
had
discussion.
I
I
We
wanted
to
have
ample
parking.
I
have
a
little
bit
of
concern
about
the
11
parking
space
max.
I
A
Or
for
further
questions,
first
of
the
conditioner
or
staff.
H
All
right
I'll
move
to
approve.
A
Is
found
in
the
steep
slope
and
in
the
relationship
of
the.
A
In
that's
that's
a
really
specific
condition
of
this
particular
piece
of
land.
A
C
Just
propose
to
add,
and
then
you
guys
do
a
vote
for
that
and
then
I
would
just
add.
We.
C
Would
just
add
those
to
the
record,
but
do
I
have
to
ask
eric
eric
made
the
motion.
A
A
C
A
K
Thank
you.
This
is
a
request
for
from
catalan
for
a
property
that
they
own
at
1600,
south
rogers,.
K
Street
the
petitioner
is
requesting
a
variance
from
fence
and
wall
standards
riparian
buffer.
K
K
K
K
There's
still
several
hundred
feet
between
the
parking
area
and
the
street.
However,
it
does.
K
Again
because
the
building
is
set
back
so
far
from
the
street,
they
cannot
meet
the.
K
K
K
K
They
have
to
landscape
that
to
all
of
our
requirements,
so
the
petitioner
has
submitted.
K
Just
kind
of
briefly
go
through
those
the
riparian
buffer
variants,
the
stream
that
runs.
K
K
And,
as
I
mentioned,
we'll
be
looking
at
the
landscaping
plan
with
the
minor
site.
K
Plan
approval
in
regards
to
the
parking
setback
variants.
You
know,
as
I
mentioned.
K
Several
hundred
feet
back
from
the
street
as
well,
so
you
know
that
is
certainly
a
unique.
K
Characteristic
here,
as
well,
which
also
goes
along
with
the
fencing
requirement,
the
location.
K
Of
the
building
so
far
back
from
the
street,
you
know
really
presents
a
difficulty
there
with.
K
A
Thank
you
very
much
eric
petitioners,
representative
or
petitioner.
K
So
that
would
be
william
richard.
I
saw
him
here
he's
here.
A
A
U
U
U
We
find
acceptable
and
I
think
there
was
one
part
of
the
the
let's
see
I
got
to
find
it
here.
U
There
was
a
an
item
about
seeking
dnr
approval
for
the
bridges.
H
On
the
board
on
the
staff
report
is,
is
that
the
way
you
have
it
written?
Is
that
the
way.
K
K
Sidewalk,
so
that
is
basically
just
to
make
sure
that
dnr
of
approval
from
dnr
is
granted
prior
to.
K
Any
work
within
the
floodplain
if
dnr
says
that
no
permit
is
needed,
then
that's
fine
as
well.
K
A
floodplain
happening
and
to
make
sure
that
you
know
proper
approvals
are
obtained
for
that.
K
So
what
they
would
be
proposing
within
that
25
foot
buffer,
that
extends
beyond
that
is
some.
K
Of
that
parking
and
then
for
the
walkway,
so
the
area
that
are
serving
now
is
already
been.
K
Disturbed
and
obviously
pretty
heavily
disturbed
by
the
concrete
plant
that
was
there
so
we'll.
K
Work
with
them
to
get
fresh
plantings
within
some
of
that
area,
so
that
is,
that
is
for.
A
Back
to
the
petitioners
representative,
mr
rieger,
do
you
have
anything
to
add.
U
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
we're
back
to
the
board
for
action.
O
A
Okay,
thank
you
a
second,
I
second,
it
okay,
any
discussion.
A
If
not,
we
are
ready
for
for
a
vote.
A
Take
it
away
eric,
thank
you.
So
again,
this
is
a
request
from
catalin.
K
Main
existing
buildings,
so
the
petitioner,
this
is
for
the
property.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
Standards,
this
is
similar
to
you
know
what
I
just
mentioned
on
the
previous
petition,
as
well
as.
K
Surrounding
and
protecting
the
facility,
so
the
petitioners
are
requesting
that
variance
in
order.
K
Series
of
awnings,
so
you
have
to
have
three
of
those
four
elements
within
a
building
edition.
K
K
Was
built
you
know
way
before
the
current
udo
requirements.
This
was
built
30
years
ago.
K
Or
so,
when
vespers
moved
into
the
site
as
part
of
the
redevelopment
of
the
thompson
factory.
K
The
old
rca
facility,
so
it's
designed
very
much
as
a
as
a
warehouse.
So
it's
very
difficult
when.
K
K
K
K
Petitioner,
looked
at
several
different
elements
and
designs
for
how
they
could.
K
With
that
hold
on,
let
me
get
to
that
there
you
go
so
this
would
be
a
mix
of
a
solid,
decorative.
K
K
You
move
north
on
the
site,
so
the
current
proposal
and
rendering
would
have
kind.
K
Of
a
small
terrorist
design
to
it
in
order
to
alleviate
some
of
the
the
height
and
massing
of.
K
K
As
well,
that
kind
of
try
to
replicate
some
of
the
modulation
and
change
in
building
height
that.
K
Would
be
typically
required,
for
you
know
a
new
building
or
a
new
addition
with
the.
K
With
the
facility
so
again
with
this,
this
would
be
an
addition
to
the
building,
so
would
have
to.
K
Meet
some
of
our
limited
compliance
sections
which
would
require
a
sidewalk,
a
long,
strong
drive.
K
K
From
the
road,
as
you
could
probably
almost
have
gotten
it
when
it
was
designed,
30
and
30
years,.
K
Ago
so
it's
very
difficult,
given
the
location
of
the
building
and
the
current
constraints.
K
Requirements
of
the
government
contract,
you
know
also,
as
I
mentioned,
the
design
of
the
building.
K
K
K
Is
enough
to
provide
protection?
Barbed
wire
is
just
not
a
fencing
material
that
is
appropriate.
K
K
K
K
K
U
And
we
really
don't
have
any
issue
with
the
barbed
wire
we
were
just
wanted
to
preserve.
U
A
Eric
just
a
technical
question,
so
so
the
recommendation
is
for
to
the
approval
of
two.
K
Only
if
you
disagree
with
our
findings,
so
if
you,
if
you
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
petition.
K
K
Street
trees
along
that
side
and
that's
something
that
I've
discussed
with
them
as
well.
K
V
A
Lockley,
do
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
V
V
V
Has
not
been
shared
with
me
and
if
you
look
through
the
petition
there
really
isn't
any
detail.
V
The
other
thing
is,
I
wanted
to
be
a
short
I've
had
conversations
with
catalin
concerning
this.
V
Sidewalk
per
our
approval
december
of
2019,
when
we
brought
this
parcel
in
for
a
a
redevelopment.
V
Petition
and
no
we're
excited
to
you
know,
see
catalan
grow
and
expand
and
they've
been.
A
Okay,
we
are
ready
for
action
or
any
questions
before
that.
I
had
a
question
about.
D
It
yep
so
mr
lockley
owns
the
property
just
to
the
west,
where
you
can
see
the
the
previous.
K
Mobile
homes
that
were
on
that
site
just
to
the
west,
and
so
he
got
approval
for.
K
Street
and
so
the
fence
that
that
would
be
included
with
this
petition,
which
you
can
you.
K
M
Anything
else
board
members
and
then
also
in
regards.
K
In
regards
to
the
the
landscaping
along
that
west
property
line,.
K
The
landscaping
would
only
be
required
along
the
sides
of
the
property
facing
the
street.
K
K
Let
me
let
me
look
at
it.
That's
a
that's,
a
good
question
that
would
have
some
landscaping.
K
Requirements
for
that
that
that
might
actually
be,
that
might
actually
be
a
requirement.
Barry.
K
K
I
I
am
not
100
positive.
If
you
want
to
give
me
a
second
or
I
mean
we,
don't
we
don't.
K
Typically,
go
back
to
the
public
once
public
comment
period
is
over.
I
would
certainly.
D
Yeah,
I
just
want
a
clarification.
I
I
I
remember
approving
mr.
D
Lockley's
development
and
I
remember
having
some
sort
of
connection.
D
And
I
that
would
connect
him
to
that
site,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
A
Of
course,
mr
mr
lafley,
yes,
could
you
please
respond
to
flavia's
question
yeah,
so
in
the.
V
V
Keep
on
going
yeah,
so
it's
that
sidewalk
right
there
on
their
property,
that
is
on
the
north.
A
Could
we
add
a
conditional
proof
of
approval
if
this
is
already
that
it
be
in
keeping
with.
K
In
public
right
of
way
as
as
near
as
not
for
what
for
what
I
can
see,.
K
K
Does
go
through
the
best
beers
former
property,
so
I
would,
I
would
be
hesitant.
K
K
Know
there
should
hopefully
be
an
access
easement
to
ensure
that,
but
but
to
be
honest,
that
would.
A
Looks
like
that
that
catalan
is
amenable
to
working
through
this
issue
with
mr
lockley.
B
Noted
in
item
two,
the
disturbed
varies
around
sidewalks
will
be
replenished
with
native.
A
A
second
a
second
okay,
thank
you.
I
just
have
a
friendly
amendment
for
some
additional
language.
A
To
the
third,
the
third
criteria
under
architectural
standards.
A
That
that
first
sentence
the
property,
the
practical
difficulty
in
the
use
of
the
properties.
A
Shape
I'd
like
to
add
in
there
the
large-scale
existing
building,
because
that
is
a
kind
of.
A
A
Or
the
approvals
granted
good
luck
and
thank
you
all
so
much
this
evening.