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A
Twenty
first
reporting
in
progress
can
we
please
have
roll
call.
A
We
have
two
sets
of
meeting
minutes
to
approve
the
first
set
is
june.
The
21st
24th
excuse.
A
Me
2021,
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody.
You
do
not
have
to
have
been
present
in
order
to
to.
C
23Rd
2021
minutes,
okay,
we'll
do
them
at
the
same
time
do
have
a
second
for
for
both.
D
B
Eric
coyne,
our
newest
member
appointed
by
the
mayor-
and
we
will
see
later
this
evening,.
B
And
we'll
sit
in
on
a
couple
of
our
petitions
tonight.
So
thank
you
to
them
and
to
all
of
you
who.
B
Are
already
here
for
volunteering,
your
time
and
helping
us
out
thanks
right.
Thank
a
very
warm.
A
Welcome
to
eric
thank
you
so
much
for
agreeing
to
serve
and
join
bza.
I
will
be
recruiting.
A
Three
petitions
tonight
v-16-21
michael
cordaro.
This
is
the
johnson
creamery
cu-18-21.
A
Sean
erton
and
v
dash
19-21
wayne
and
danielle
poole.
Can
we
please
have.
E
E
E
E
E
That
it
did
meet
all
of
the
site
plan
requirements
all
of
the
architectural
requirements.
E
The
building
to
not
be
at
the
build
to
line
so
real
quickly,
the
build
to
line
within
the
downtown.
E
Requires
that
a
minimum
of
seventy
percent
of
a
building
be
at
or
within
zero
to
five
feet.
E
Of
the
property
you
know,
the
intent
of
that
was,
as
you
go
along
streets
within
the
downtown.
E
E
That
have
brought
them
forward
together
with
this
site
plan
and
this
request,
so
the
zoning
code.
E
Only
able
to
accomplish
a
two
percent
basically
given
where
the
culvert
and
the
easement
are.
E
The
culvert
and
the
easement
run
pretty
much
right
along
the
front
and
prevent
any
of.
E
E
Requirements
so
the
petitioners
are
just
requesting
the
variance
from
that
one
standard.
E
E
Experience
you
know
real,
quick,
let's
just
kind
of
step
through
those
you
know
the
first
one
is.
E
E
E
A
Thank
you
eric
the
petitioner's
representative.
F
A
Present
your
petition,
great
okay,
I
you
know
to
be
honest
with
you.
I
think
eric
did
a
very.
F
Thorough
job
and
thank
you
eric
I
I
did
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
having
the
opportunity.
F
To
come
back
before
you
again,
I
I
hope
that
the
explanation
that
you
know
eric
has
presented.
F
To
you
is
fairly
clear
in
the
reality
of
why
we're
requesting
this
variance
all,
unfortunately,.
F
F
So
I
think,
if
there's
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
them
for
anybody,
but
other.
A
We
are
to
the
board
for
questions
of
staff
and
petitioner.
Does
anyone
have
a
question.
A
A
Eric
I'll
I'll
ask
this
is
more
out
of
curiosity
the
parking
lot.
That's.
A
Currently,
there
does
does
that
serve
the
the
johnson
creamery
building
and.
A
E
Does
serve
the
existing
office
building
within
the
downtown?
There
is
not
a
parking.
E
Minimum
for
commercial
parking,
it's
only
residential
uses
that
have
a
parking
minimum.
E
Constructed
city
garage
and
trades
district
that
has
a
parking
and
that
available
for.
E
F
F
F
F
Tenants
in
the
office
building
as
well
as
plan
to
obviously
for
any
future
tenants
and.
A
A
Would
like
to
speak
to
this
petition?
If
so,
please
raise
your
hand
in
the
participants
list.
A
A
Then
we
go
back
to
the
petitioner.
Do
you
have
anything
further
you'd
like
to
add
at
this
point.
A
F
C
A
A
We
have
a
vote
please.
Yes,
this
is
a
motion
to
approve
with
conditions
clapper,
yes,
brockmorton.
B
A
C
And
jackie
timmy
again,
oh,
I
see
jessica's
joined
us.
Thank
you.
C
All
right,
this
is
for
case
number
cu-88.
Please
have
a
staff
report.
E
E
E
E
The
ground
floor
for
eight
parking
spaces
and
then
the
up
floor
upper
two
floors
would.
E
Each
floor
would
have
a
four
bedroom
apartment
in
those,
so
the
udo
clarify
or
classifies
any.
E
This
new
building
to
be
constructed
in
the
rear,
so
fisher
has
submitted
renderings
for.
E
E
The
building,
but
it's
still
a
few
inches
over
it's
about
30
feet
and
a
few
inches.
E
E
E
E
Student
housing
for
the
two
units
that
are
being
proposed,
so
there
are
several
sections
of
the.
E
Code
that
deal
with
the
criteria,
the
review
criteria
for
this,
we
have
the
overall.
E
Criteria
for
conditional
uses
that
reflect
the
general
compliance
criteria.
I
mentioned
one
of
the.
E
Specific
use,
specific
standards
that
apply
to
this
in
regard
to
the
height,
the
other
is
a.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
C
I
do
okay
and
you
or
any
of
those
that
are
representing
the
petitioner
and
the
petitioner.
G
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
I
know
sean
erton
and
carrie
costello
are
both
here.
G
G
G
We
have
a
building.
There
is
a
building
just
directly
to
the
east
of
this
building.
G
That
is
of
housing
townhomes
on
a
back
lot.
That
was
done
a
few
years
ago.
G
This
is
perfect
form
of
infill
housing.
It's
also
the
best
place
really
to
place.
G
We
will
anticipate
that
our
students
will
be
walking
to
class.
We
really
don't
have.
G
Much
more,
we,
you
know
part
of
this
project,
the
owners,
carrie
and
sean
renovated
and
restored.
G
G
G
Parking
lot
and
put
a
small
scale
structure
on
it
with
that,
I
don't
really
have
much
more
to.
G
C
This
is
sean
and
no,
I
don't
have
anything
to
to
currently
out.
I
think
doug
did
a
wonderful.
C
C
Any
questions
of
the
of
the
board
of
our
staff
or
of
the
petitioners.
Anyone
on
the
board
like
to.
C
Speak
to
that
this
is
eric
coyne.
I
do
just
real
quick,
maybe
eric
you'd
be
in
submission.
D
Bedroom
units
becoming
quote
him
becoming
party
houses.
What
are
there
other
four
bedroom
units.
E
Characterization
that
those
often
times
become
party
houses
is
something
that
we've
heard.
E
A
lot
you
know,
I
think
you
probably
see
more
impacts
from
that
when
there
are
multiple
units.
E
E
Units
is
separated
by
a
completely
different
floor,
so
you
know
you
don't
have
that
entire.
E
Property
that
are
going
to
have
those
bedrooms
in
there.
So
no
we,
you
know
the
the
low.
C
Okay!
Well
with
that,
at
this
point,
I
I
believe
you
have
probably
what
19
or
12
18.
G
I
really
don't.
I
guess
I
would
add
one
thing
and
I
I
I
know
sean
and
I
discussed
this
today.
G
H
C
In
front
of
the
board,
do
I
have
a
second
a
second
any
further
discussion
before
a
vote
is
taken.
C
C
Tonight,
good
luck
to
you
just
hang
on
here,
just
one
real
quick
thing.
Eric
on
that,
I
saw.
C
Was
correct?
No
thank
you.
That
was
probably
just
an
accidental.
It
might
be
something
from
previous.
C
C
That
would
be
me
again:
okay,
eric,
if
you
would
please
give
us
a
staff
report.
Thank
you.
E
E
E
The
mcdole
historic
district
as
well
adjacent
uses
along
here
to
the
north.
E
E
You
can
see
here
that
your
old
photograph,
the
site,
has
alleys
on
all
three
sides.
E
That
is
shown
between
the
building
and
the
garage
in
order
to
attach
that
so.
E
And
would
feature
a
new
driveway
along
there,
so
the
the
house
is
currently
about
35
feet.
E
The
remainder
of
the
site
plan,
the
elevations,
the
height
and
other
setbacks
all
meet
the.
E
Setback
page,
so
with
this
development
standard
variance,
there
are,
of
course,
three
review
criteria.
E
That
are
required
to
be
evaluated.
The
first
of
those
is
that
the
approval
would
not
be
interest.
E
E
E
E
We
did
receive
several
letters
from
adjacent
property
owners
in
support
of
this
petition.
E
E
To
meet
code,
you
know
in
this
case
here
the
rear
setback
requirement
is
only
seven
feet.
E
If
this
was
zoned
residential,
that's
the
fact
would
be
even
more.
It
would
be
a
25
foot
setback.
E
E
So
with
that,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you
eric,
and
I
see
that
I
have
a
note.
C
To
the
petitioner
to
speak,
would
would
you
just
let
me
know
with
a
simple
yes
or
no
wayne.
C
And
dede,
which
of
you
would
like
to
speak
wayne?
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
the
petition.
C
C
I
All
right
well,
thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity,
thanks
eric
for
giving
the.
I
Present
our
case
and
and
trying
to
get
the
set
back
and
lastly,
we
would
like
to
thank
barry.
I
She's
been
great
to
work
with
she's,
really
helping
us
out
with
the
design
and
interiors
and.
I
Well,
first
off
my
wife
and
I
moved
in
bloomington
six
months
ago
and
we're
very
excited.
We
love.
I
The
property
all
three
of
our
children
moved
to
bloomington
and
even
duty's
paris
moved
to.
I
Citizens
here
and
eric,
would
you
mind
displaying
the
actual
planned
view
of
the
drawing.
I
Yes,
perfect
we'll
just
I
want
to
mention
the
home
is
a
106
year
old
property
and
the.
I
We
do
plan
on
hoping
to
yeah,
so
that's
the
actual
survey
and
it
kind
of
shows
you.
I
I
And
as
part
of
being
that
neighborhood,
it
is
recommended
that
any
additions
be
to
the.
I
I
And
as
part
of
that,
mixed
medium,
it
requires
any
accessory
building
that
is
greater
than
15
or.
I
Space
to
just
to
have
some
privacy
back
there
from
the
foot
traffic
and
then
just.
I
And
so
that's
the
reason.
We're
requesting
a
five
foot
setback
versus
a
seven
foot
and.
I
Year
old
property,
when
they
developed
a
lot
of
the
area,
if
you
look,
the
majority
of
the
homes
are.
I
Back
and
so
the
the
practical
difficulty
is,
is
a
private
area.
We
have
really
no
other
area.
I
To
create
a
kind
of
that
safe
space
and
has
to
be
on
the
in
the
back
of
the
property.
I
And
we
didn't
mention
the
unconstructed
alleyway.
There
is
an
unconstructed
alleyway
to
the.
I
West,
so
it's
it's!
It's
not
butting
up
directly
up
against
the
the
neighbors
and
then.
I
I
He
he
wrote
a
really
nice
letter
and
I
just
want
to
read
a
paragraph
from
what
he
he
wrote.
I
I
I
I
The
jack
explained
it
really
well,
and
but
we
really
appreciate
everyone's
time
and.
I
Consideration
for
this
variance
and
and
so
that's
the
end
of
our
presentation
so
we'll.
C
H
I
have
a
question:
yes,
so
have
have
the
pools
receive
the
coa.
H
C
I
have
while
we're
waiting.
I
have
one
question
for
the
staff
which
is:
could
you
put
the.
C
Setback-
that
was
the
graphic
too
there
I
understand
about
the
graphics,
so
the.
C
E
E
C
J
Well,
I
know
with
the
and
I
know
the
ashes
will
be
on
there
with
the
historic.
J
Guidelines
for
our
neighborhood
and
for
the
historic
preservation
committee.
We
cannot
build
a.
J
Be
up
to
eight
feet,
but
they
would
not
approve
a
fence
at
the
front
of
the
house.
C
Okay,
so
back
to
staff,
then
is:
is
that
accurate,
eric
they're
they're
not
able
to
or
is
it
is
it.
E
Guidelines
are
or
are
not.
However,
I
would
say
that
those
are
two
separate
sets
of
regulations.
E
E
Conservation
district
guidelines,
both
of
those
have
to
work
in
conjunction
with.
B
B
Don't
think
she
answered
your
question,
so
was
why
can't
they
meet
the
seven
feet
in
the
back
or.
C
Asking
the
petitioner
specifically,
why
can
you
not
build
the
garage
within
yeah,
okay,
because.
B
That
the
mcdole
garden
guidelines
don't
allow
for
that
garage
to
meet
seven
foot
step
back.
B
C
B
An
eight-foot
fence
she
didn't
answer
the
question
about
a
seven
foot:
rear
building
setback.
B
It's
yes,
it's
very
unlikely
that
the
mcdole
garden,
historic
district
guidelines,
don't.
B
B
B
E
C
C
Okay,
so
to
the
petitioner
again
either
one
of
you
so
that
deck
and
private
yard
that's
there.
C
Would
you
not
be
able
to
build
to
the
north
and
to
the
south.
J
I
I
And
we
have
no
parking
in
the
front
yeah,
I
understand
so
I'm
looking
at
the.
C
Existing
gravel
area
in
the
apron-
and
I
guess
my
question-
is
that
there's.
C
C
That
you
could
conceivably
build
out
to
maintain
the
the
privacy
and
personal
area
that
you're.
C
I
Where
the
addition
potentially
could
be
and
and
then
with
the
driveway,
it
would
still.
I
On
that
side
of
the
house,
and
so
we'd
like
to
have
it
in
between
the
house
and
garage,
is
that.
I
C
C
I
C
J
C
C
C
C
We
go
to
the
public,
I
have
a
question,
so
the
area
the
breezeway
per
se,
we
are
only
looking
at.
H
J
C
C
Jessica,
okay,
so
with
that
we
will
go
to
the
public.
I
see,
I
believe,
paul
ash
had
his
hand
up
as.
C
Paul
still
here,
okay
paul,
I
believe
you
would
like
to
speak.
So
if
we
can
unmute
paul
he's
from.
C
K
Forget
it:
okay,
elizabeth,
please,
you
have
up
to
five
minutes
we'd
like
to
hear
what.
C
You
had
to
say:
okay
wayne
and
dd
came
to
our
neighborhood
association
on
october
7th,
and
there.
K
Were
14
members
present
and
they
presented
everything,
including
the
variance
request.
K
And
we
approved
of
their
what
they're
wanting
to
do
the
addition,
the
garage
as
well
as
the.
K
K
Of
a
whole
lot
of
areas
which
we've
had
flooding
of,
and
that
was
definitely
approved.
K
K
Turned
down-
and
I
certainly
hope,
there's
no
prejudice
as
far
as
staff
goes
on
that
I
just.
K
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
that.
Anyone
else
from
the
public
wishing
to
make
comments.
C
And
I
see
tina
lubarski,
let's
unmute
her.
L
C
L
Fantastic
well,
some
of
the
particular
difficulties
with
the
with
this
property
are
just.
L
C
M
C
From
the
public,
who
would
like
to
make
comments
to
this
petition.
C
C
You
do
have
time
left
and
you
may
address
that
time
with
anything
else.
You'd
like
to
say.
C
Wait
we'll
unmute,
you
give
us
one
moment
and
jackie.
How
much
time
do
you
have
left
please
eric.
D
Hey
joe,
while
they're,
while
we're
waiting
if
wayne
dd
when
you
respond,
if
you
I
I'd,
be.
D
C
C
C
J
J
J
J
And
I
apologize,
we
don't
have
that
finish
yet
and
any
anything
further.
I
Yeah
I
just
just
the
usable
space
is
having
that
there
is
just
there's
just.
I
The
whole
plan
layout
would
be
is
needed
for
for
for
us,
so.
I
We
appreciate
that
this
opportunity
again
and
and
and
that's
all,
we
have
to
say.
C
And
thank
you
now
with
that.
We'll
come
back
to
the
board
for
any
action
or
with
lack.
C
Of
action,
any
questions
for
the
questions
can
take
place
at
this
time
from
the
board
petition
or.
D
D
She's
mentioned
something
about
security,
and
all
that
and
you
would,
I
think,
dede
had
addressed.
D
D
Wandering
into
the
yard
and
are
they
you
know
how
often,
if
you
you
know,
does
that
occur
right.
C
I
And
my
wife
sent
me
a
text
this
morning
and
what
this
is,
I
don't
know
if
we
can
see
a
picture.
J
J
J
D
At
all,
just
just
so
I
can
understand
on
the
north
and
south
side
so
that.
D
D
J
J
J
J
And
so
that's
why
and
also
we
had
eric
and
eric
conor
hedrick
when
he
was
the
president
of
the.
J
Historic
preservation,
commission
come.
He
did
a
tour
with
us
of
the
house
and
gave
us.
J
J
J
D
J
Not
move
here
until
may
the
end
of
may
beginning
of
june.
Okay,
thank
you,
but
eric
you
do
generate.
C
C
So,
just
just
to
be
sure
staffs
either
of
you
on
the
staff
side,
that
existing
gravel
area.
C
C
C
My
understanding
from
the
previous
answer
that
eric
to
eric's
question,
which
is
for
issues.
B
If
they
wanted
it
to
be
five
feet,
then
they
can
do
a
detached
structure
of
this
size.
B
C
We
can
entertain
a
motion
if
you
so
desire.
I
have
one
quick
question
to
what
jackie
just
said
so.
D
B
C
C
E
Yeah,
that
is
a
very
fine
line
that
we
deal
with
oftentimes.
You
know,
but
basically,
as
long.
E
E
Tell
people
for,
in
addition,
is
you
know
the
roof
lines
have
to
be
attached
and
integral
to
some.
E
Degree,
but
yes,
if
they're
physically,
not
touching
it
could
be
looked
at
as
detached
completely.
C
B
B
Just
you
know
sometimes
the
lines
like
get
blurred
or
whatever
it
is
important.
B
B
And
to
move
forward,
but
none
of
those
things
reflect
the
findings,
the
finding
that
we
have.
B
In
meeting
code
on
this
property,
so
in
this
instance,
that
would
be
that
you
just
couldn't.
B
Have
a
breezeway,
and
is
that
a
practical
difficulty
or
just
something
that
they
want
to
do.
B
B
Zoned
r3,
if
they
wanted
to
have
a
detached
structure
of
this
size,
they
couldn't
because.
B
It's
big,
it's
really
big
for
this
area,
so
they
would
have
to
attach
it
in
order
to
be
able.
B
B
Would
like,
and
I
think,
a
little
bit
to
some
of
the
questions
mr
brockmorton
was
asking.
B
Could
a
private
yard
you
know,
could
that
area
be
oriented
if
that
space
between
the
existing.
B
House
and
the
proposed
garage
was
down
to
10
feet
instead
of
1210,
could
the
private
yard
design.
B
Be
made
to
stick
out
a
little
bit
further
north,
it
doesn't
seem
like
it
couldn't.
It
just
seems.
B
Look
at
what
is
and
isn't
possible,
for
example,
when
miss
cox
sash
mentioned
the
first.
B
B
B
Finding
calls
for
finding
practical
difficulty
and
we
just
haven't
found
any
so
if
you
all
do.
B
B
B
So
for
those
of
you
who
are
new,
we
would
have
to
flesh
that
out,
since
we
recommended.
B
C
The
comment
about
the
earlier
petition
we
heard
due
to
there
are:
there
is
no
precedence.
C
C
For
public
hearings-
and
we
appreciate
their
comments
now
with
that
any
other
any.
C
Other
questions,
but
again
thank
you,
jackie
for
explaining
that,
because
codes
and
those
types.
C
Of
things
are
very
difficult
to
to
understand
the
nuances
of
it,
so
eric
or
or
jessica
or.
D
I
just
I
have
a
comment.
Real
quick
one
of
the
letters
in
your
pack
in
the
packet
is
from.
D
H
Well,
I
guess
get
a
question
about
procedure,
so
they
recommend
they
recommended
denial.
H
Safety
in
your
own
home,
a
peculiar
reason,
something
to
is
that
something
to
think.
H
H
Have
people
you
know
walking
in
your
yard,
back
in
the
back
in
the
front.
C
Conditions
laid
out
as
this
is
a
peculiar
condition
is
that
accurate
staff
yeah
so.
C
Thank
you,
and-
and
I
do
want
to
clarify
on
spacing
it's
12
feet,
10
and
a
half
inches,
and
so.
C
Just
an
inch
and
a
half
under
11
feet,
so
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
that
we're.
D
Yeah
this
is
eric
again.
I
am
I'm
very
sympathetic
to
the
security
issue,
as
I.
D
D
D
Think
is
what
for
me,
this
has
boiled
down
to.
So
I
think,
as
I
consider
how
I'm
going
to
vote,
that.
D
D
D
Turn
on
so
thank
you.
Thank
you
eric
yeah
at
this
point
we
are
at
at
this
point
we're.
D
So
this
is
my
first
motion,
so
I
would,
I
will
probably
better
be
good
eric.
C
I
will
probably
get
the
verbiage
wrong,
but
I
moved
for
a
vote
on
case
visa
victor
19-21.
D
C
The
the
v-1921
are
you
asking
us
to
deny
the
request
for
variance.
E
Because
our
recommendation
is
denial,
you
know
a
vote.
Yes
here
would
be
to
deny
it.
C
Okay,
so,
oh
so
eric
your
motion,
as
I
heard
it
was
you
move
to
recommend
denial
of.
C
C
B
C
So
with
that
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll,
please
rock
morton,
yes,
morel,.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
bringing
the
petition.
I
do
think
the
only
comments
I
would
make.
C
If
necessary
might
work,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
solutions
there
that.
C
Do
not
require
action
from
the
board,
and
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
meet
with
us.