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A
The
board
of
zoning
appeals
for
the
city
of
bloomington
for
may
the
26th
in
progress.
B
D
Okay,
we
have
a
set
of
meeting
notes,
meeting
minutes
to
approve.
A
Anybody
else
have
any
amendments
to
those
midi
notes.
No,
then
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
E
A
second,
so
I'm
going
to
jump
in.
F
E
Yep,
yes,
okay,
thank
you.
Do
we
have
reports,
resolutions
and
communications
this
evening.
D
A
Llc
and
blackwell
construction
inc
this
evening
on
the
docket
here
are
the
petitions.
A
Case,
can
we
please
have
the
staff
report.
G
Okay,
so
this
petition
is
for
the
southern
indiana
medical
park
located
at.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
A
H
A
H
Thorough
so
I'll
try
to
just
touch
on
a
few
key
items:
the
and
karina,
if
you
can,
is
it
okay?
If
I.
H
The
medical
office
building
and
then
several
of
the
tenants
that
have
two
to
one
acre
lots.
H
Once
you
pull
into
the
park
the
road,
I
believe
that's
debra
kind
of
wise
off
at.
H
H
Calling
wayfinding
signs
and
and
staff
is
not
recommending
positive
consideration
on
these.
H
H
H
H
H
H
South
on
mcintyre,
we
also
have
people
continuing
west
on
coda,
so
we're
trying
to
again
get
get.
H
But
there
is
an
existing
legal
non-conforming
sign
at
that
location
and
I'll
have
her
go
back.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
So
again,
just
an
overview
sign
one,
the
the
large
one
at
the
north
end
of
the
property,
a
long
tap.
H
Ish
trying
to
usher
people
to
the
west
sign
number
eight
is
directional
sign.
That's
kind
of.
B
I
mean
why
is
it
non-compliant
and
why
is
it
you're
not
approving?
I
guess
that's
my
question.
I
I
The
center
and
then
it
has
business
names
on
it
that
aren't
on
the
parcel
that
it's
on
that's.
I
I
Parcel
has
its
own,
I
own,
identifying
sign
for
the
business
located
on
it.
Does
that
answer
your.
I
Question
so
does
a
medical
park
does
that
have
different
standards
in
terms
of
you
know,
when.
B
Everywhere
you
know
directing
you
because
it
is
confusing,
does
does
this
development.
E
J
I
As
mr
staley
mentioned,
there
are
also
existing
non-conforming.
I
don't
think
we
have.
I
I
An
enforcement
issue-
we've
you
know,
looked
into,
but
so
the
existing
signs
in
the
complex
right
now.
I
And
then
some
kind
of
older
wayfaring
signs
that
were
put
in
at
some
point.
A
Could
could
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
history
of
this
property
because
it
was
a
pud.
I
So
the
property
was
zoned
pud,
I'm
not
positive,
but
it's
possible
that
there
a
lot
of
times
in
a.
I
I
I
I
I
I
It
wasn't
something
that
could
be
done
through
that
pud
the
way
that
it
was
written
at
that
time.
I
I
Not
off-premise
way
finding,
so
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
rules
that
there
was
a
supreme.
I
Okay,
any
further
questions
yeah.
I
just
want
to
clarify
for
the
petitioners,
so
the
rationale.
E
Behind
this,
really
is
the
fact
that
this
is
this
is
a
medical
facility.
It's
24
acres.
E
E
E
H
H
H
H
A
Are
you
aware
of
specific
feedback
from
the
tenants
or
other
occupants
of
the
buildings
that.
H
K
K
Question
again,
please,
I
was
just
curious
if,
if
you've
gotten
feedback
from
the
people
who
work.
A
K
With
with
particularly
this
location,
because
you're
driving
driving
driving
you're
like
where's.
K
K
K
I
would
also
say
that
this
has
the
support
of
other
tenants
within
the
office
park,
because.
I
I
I
think
we
said
this
a
little
bit
in
the
report,
but
one
difference
here
is
that
these
are.
I
I
I
Away
that
is
you
that's
just
something
that
the
code
doesn't
allow,
so
we
are
trying
to
be
more.
I
I
I
On
coda
into
your
gpis
or
your
gps,
it's
going
to
take
you
right
there,
so
we
do
think
that
that.
I
Because
these
roads
are
public,
so
I
just
want
to
add
that,
because
that
came
out,
thank
you.
A
A
The
petitioner,
if
there's
anything,
further
you'd
like
to
add
at
this
time
this
would.
A
Be
this
would
be
the
opportunity?
Yes,
thank
you
just
a
rebuttal
to
the
to
the
street
comment
again.
H
H
Medical
park
are
people
that
have
a
reason
to
be
down
there
right,
so
we're
not
trying
to
pull.
H
You
know
and
again
consistency,
high
quality
materials
and
design.
Thank
you.
I
Can
he
distribute
a
hard
copy
since
one
of
the
board
members
is
not
present.
H
H
H
A
Okay,
so
we
are
back
to
the
board
for
action
and
I'm
going
to
ask.
A
For
a
for
a
motion,
and
then
we
can
discuss
so
if
somebody
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
J
I'm
not
sure
how
to
frame
this
motion,
but
I
would
approve
all
the
signs.
J
Is
would
be
the
language
on
that?
I
I
moved
to
approve
the
recommendation
on
the
big
sign
and.
J
I
Move
to
approve
v
zero,
four
twenty
two
twenty
two
for
both
the
large
sign
on
tap
as
well.
I
A
Particularly
for
the
third
criteria
of
practical
difficulties,
we
need
to
define
what.
A
Confident
we
could
just
do
this
now
and
replace
those
findings
with
our
new
findings,
so
eric.
I
J
F
L
L
L
L
A
Okay,
so
seeing
nobody
further,
we
are
back
to
the
board
to
continue
the
motion.
We.
A
Are
at
the
point
of
crafting
all
findings,
alternative
findings,
so
eric
you're
gonna
start.
J
Yeah,
I
think
it's
a
it's
peculiar
to
the
property
in
question.
J
J
Different
interest
involved
so
than
what
we
have
with
the
you
know,
the
strip
mall
signage.
If.
J
You
will
so
I
I
think
it's
peculiar
to
this
particular
property
and
all
not
just.
J
The
layout
of
the
property,
but
also
the
type
of
use
within
that
property.
A
The
the
the
amount
of
topography
and,
I
would
add
the
overall
layout
and
number
of
dead
ends.
I
Well,
as
its
layout
and
number
of
dead
ends
that
necessitate
a
variance
from
sign
standards.
I
To
allow
additional
way
finding
signs
period
is
that
does
that
sound?
Okay,
mike.
E
Not
everybody
does,
I
can
tell
you,
I
know
several
people
of
varying
ages
who
have
flip.
E
C
I
I
I
Okay,
I
think
ms
pasos
is
going
to
share.
I
I
I
I
J
Yeah
you
can
amend
the
motion.
Okay,
so
we'll
add
that,
as
a
as
conditional
two.
B
A
D
A
And
mr
mcaleer,
I
want
to
make
you
aware
that,
typically,
when
we
only
have.
A
Previous
hearing,
so
he
cannot
vote
on
the
case,
so
that
leaves
the
three
of
us
to
to
to
to
vote.
A
A
Have
at
least
four
board
members
next
month:
it's
it's
really
just
a
courtesy
excuse,
mr
mack.
F
A
A
I
do
okay,
so
that's
typically
something
that
you
really
petitioned
appreciate
that
no,
I
said.
J
That
makes
sense,
and
I
appreciate
that
that
and
we
just
need,
we
need
three
to
appreciate.
We
need.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
great
thanks.
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
now
have
a
kind
of
a
synopsis
of
the
case.
I
Yes,
okay,
so
first
I'm
going
to
for
those
who
weren't
here
last
month
or
those
watching
at
home,.
I
This
petition
appeared
last
month
the
department
recommended
denial,
the
board
of.
I
I
That
time
those
portions
of
the
hearing
are
over,
we
are
to
the
portion
where
the
board
discusses.
I
The
emotion
and
these
findings-
and
then
that's
what's
left
to
do
tonight
and
so
as.
I
Because
he
wasn't
present
last
month,
we
would
suggest
that
he
not
vote
on
this
because
he.
G
G
G
G
Okay,
so
for
the
first
part
of
the
criteria.
G
G
For
the
second
part
of
the
criteria,
the
proposed
finding
is
that
the
variance
is.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
I
So
the
this
would
be
in
order
for
you
all
to
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
determinate
sidewalk.
I
Variants
so,
typically
for
a
determinant,
sidewalk
variance.
We
would
also
include.
I
A
condition
that
a
zoning
commitment
be
recorded
that
a
determinant
sidewalk.
I
A
determinant
sidewalk
variance
has
been
issued
for
this
property.
Okay,
exactly
what
I
said
there.
A
A
I'd
like
to
see
under
the
determinate
sidewalk
section,
I'd
I'd
like
to
add
c.
A
A
I
A
Okay,
can
I
please
have
a
vote.
Please
carmen.
I
I
Roughly
squared
by
that
red
square
there,
the
comprehensive
plan
designation
is
downtown.
It's.
I
The
building,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
front
building
wall
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
is.
I
I
At
the
mill
which
is
northeast
of
here
so
kind
of
reflecting
back
for
this
plaza,
that
was
redone.
I
Subdividing
it
off
because
they
can
do
the
detention
underneath
the
plaza
they
don't
have.
I
To
add
a
bunch
of
additional
square
footage
to
the
lot
that
is
otherwise
not
needed,
and
that.
I
Of
zoning
appeals
adopt
the
proposed
findings
and
approve
b1222,
with
the
condition
that.
I
Yes,
I
believe
we
have
two
on
zoom.
Okay,
I
don't
know
who's
gonna
speak.
M
N
Ashley,
my
name
is
ashley
thornberry.
I
am
the
project
manager
of
this
project.
N
Okay,
thank
you.
As
jackie
mentioned,
the
reason
we
are
seeking,
a
variance
for
the
setback.
N
N
N
N
N
N
Reason
we
are
seeking
the
variance
again
for
this
setback
to
allow
the
plaza
to
be
part
of.
N
B
And
this
is
for
staff.
You
said
that
the
area
will
be
used
as
a
as
a
retention.
B
Sure,
actually,
maybe
better
than
I
can,
but
yes,
there
will
be
underground
attention.
So
when.
I
City
of
bloomington
utility
requirements,
and,
in
this
case
ashley
again
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
A
And
that
is
with
the
the
one
condition
of
approval:
okay,
we'll
call
police.
A
B
A
Okay,
I
am
now
let
at
the
record
do
you
want
to
say
something?
Okay,
let
the
record
reflect.
A
That
I
am
going
to
recuse
myself
from
this
case
and
flavia
burrell
will
be
handling
the
meeting.
I
Have
to
have
three
members
present,
because
our
fourth
member
wasn't
able
to
make
it
the.
F
These
three
members
participating
in
person
since
ryan's
participating
since.
F
I
I
A
O
Yes,
thank
you.
So
this
is
a
request
for
aspen
heights
partners
for
property
at
703.
O
O
O
O
O
Driveway
to
move
through
here,
so
the
location
of
the
proposed
drive
is
essentially
very.
O
The
driveway
that's
proposed
so,
as
I
mentioned
here,
the
location
of
the
creek
and
the
riparian.
O
A
Of
staff
or
petition-
oh
sorry,
I'm
all
out
of
order
tonight.
Could
you
please
step.
A
To
the
podium
and
if
the
petitioner's
representative
could
please
state
their
name.
A
Okay,
you
haven't
always
one
of
the
design
groups.
Yes,
and
I
just
eric-
gave
a
great.
P
P
P
B
The
specs
on
the
current
I
I
would
what
we
would
rather
do,
I
think,
is
just
modify
that.
O
Condition
of
approval
to
give
a
little
bit
more
latitude
so
that
it's
not
a
situation
of
a
they.
O
Have
to
come
back
to
the
bza
for
anything
should
something
change
with
a
little
bit
of
deviation.
A
O
So
what
I
have
done
is
basically
just
add.
The
word
took
out
the
cross
section
at
the.
O
O
We're
working
in
the
already
disturbed
area,
so
you
know
the
boundaries
of
what
can
be
deserved.
A
O
Know
if
they
were
to
come
through-
and
you
know
they
needed
to
move
it
20
feet
to
the
north
and.
O
Know
we
try
to
have
these
conditions
in
there
to
lock
in
you
know
exactly
the
site
plan.
That's.
O
O
Approval
was
specifically
for
what
was
shown
and
anything
new
you
know
will
need
to
come.
I
I
That
the
board
is
approving
a
variance
for
a
driveway
along
this
portion
of
the
parcel
anywhere.
I
I
In
the
location
shown
in
the
buffer
location
shown
at
the
petition,
but
that
the.
I
A
A
Direct
location
is
cross
section
important.
I
A
A
Okay,
so
would
somebody
like
to
make
a
motion?
Okay,
I
thought
we
made
a
motion
already.
B
A
And
I
don't
know
if
I
asked
if
the
petitioner
had
the
opportunity
to
sp.
A
A
Of
the
the
condition
of
approval,
yes,
thank
you.
I
think
we
were
just
wondering
if
we
could
word
it.
I
Yeah,
well,
it
does,
but
since
you
haven't
had
it.
I
Moved
a
foot
north,
I
do
want
them
to
still
be
able
to
tell
you
that,
because
they're
the.
O
Further
north,
which
is
why
they're
curving
it
to
the
south
in
order
to
meet
that,
so
the.
O
Shift
it
sounds
like
as
a
result
of
cleaning
up
this
deed
gap
for
the
road
itself,
but
the.
O
Drive
kill
will
more
or
less
be
where
it
is
and
we're
yeah,
as
jackie
mentioned,
we're
pretty
pretty.
O
Through
the
grading
permit
review,
so
this
is
just
kind
of
a
last
minute
detail.
I
Q
A
Yes,
ma'am.
Okay,
if
you
would
like
to
to
add
further
comments
to
the
petitioner.
Q
Convenience
the
opportunity
to
be
there
in
person
and
to
consult
with
our
consultant
on
this.
Q
I
think
what
we
want
to
be
sure-
and
maybe
this
is
where
we
were-
we
were
trying
to
ascertain.
Q
Impede
us
from
picking
up
our
permit
and
starting
construction
if
we
do
make
a
change
revision.
Q
Right
to
the
road
based
upon
the
deed
gap
going
forward,
we're
certainly
immediately
come.
Q
I'm
not
sure
if
this
language
impacts
us
or
not
kendall
and
that's
what
I
just
want
to
be
sure
or.
Q
Eric,
but
that
impedes
our
ability
to
pick
up
our
permit,
as
is
once
we
get
this
variance.
Q
A
I
O
Once
it's
approved,
in
fact,
this
gives
us
more
latitude.
Should
things
change
at
the
last.
O
Q
D
I
I
A
Okay,
so
that
sounds
good,
then
okay,
so
you
made
the
motion.
We
have
a
second.
J
A
Good
luck,
and
that
concludes
our
meeting
for
this
evening.
Thank
you.