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B
A
Minutes
from
july
the
22nd,
2021
and
jackie,
we
only
have
two
overlapping
members
at
this
point
is.
A
C
At
the
hearing
to
vote
affirmatively
on
the
minutes,
mike
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I'm.
C
D
B
Motion
to
approve
the
minutes
of
our
what
is
the
date,
the
22nd
of
july
22nd
of
july.
A
I'm
happy
to
second
that
thank
you
motion
to
approve
minutes.
A
Reports,
resolutions
and
communications:
yes,
jackie
scanlan
development
services
manager,.
C
Apologies
again
for
the
technical
issues
you're
having
here
this
evening,
recording
in
progress.
C
Great,
I
would
like
to
welcome
jessica
sonborn.
She
is
going
to
be
our
alternate
mayoral.
C
Appointment
to
pca
member
eric
coyne
is
going
to
join
us
as
the
regular
bca
member
one
of.
C
Our
mayoral
appointments,
but
was
unable
to
be
here
this
evening
and
so
jessica,
was.
C
Thankfully,
able
to
join
us
so
welcome
jessica
and
thank
you
for
everyone
for
being
patient.
C
As
we're
trying
to
fill
out
our
five
required
numbers
and
that's
the
only
report,
I
have
okay.
A
Welcome
jessica
and
feel
free
to
ask
any
questions
during
the
hearing.
If
things
aren't.
A
A
Then
5-v
dash
0-8-21
starbucks
coughing
company
on
liberty
drive.
A
C
Okay,
so
here
we
have
the
petition,
it
is
located.
C
On
west
arlington,
as
ms
clapper
said,
it
is
located
at
1504,
west
arlington,
road.
C
Western
portion
of
the
property
near
the
road
near
arlington
and
the
surrounding
uses
include.
C
Single
family
and
multi-family
residential,
the
petitioner
operates
a
pallet
business.
Excuse
me.
C
Locations
from
the
property,
so
the
request,
the
request,
originated
because
we
received.
C
The
department
received
a
complaint
about
an
business
operating
from
the
site
that
was
in
july.
C
Of
last
year
that
we
contacted
mr
ayatorola
for
the
first
time
and
then
contacted
again
in.
C
September
of
last
year
and
heard
back
from
him
that
he
wanted
to
request
the
conditional
use.
C
Approval
to
be
able
to
do
a
home
occupation,
he
would
also
at
the
time
the
property
was.
C
Owned
residential
medium
lot,
r2
since
then,
as
you
know,
we've
updated
the
zoning
maps
so.
C
The
property
was
rezoned
to
rm
this
year.
He
also
is
requesting
a
variance
to
allow
deliveries.
C
A
home
occupation
in
an
accessory
structure,
but
that
was
a
regulation
that
was
altered.
C
Is
that
we
were
working
with
the
petitioner
to
put
this
petition
on
hold,
he
did
file.
C
You
know
quite
quickly
once
we
were
able
to
get
in
touch
with
him
about
the
violation,
but.
C
We
decided
to
wait
and
see
what
happened
with
the
udo
update
and
then,
of
course,
we've
had
some.
C
C
Again,
is
for
conditional
use
approval
for
home
occupation
for
his
pallet
business.
C
And
for
a
variance
to
allow
deliveries
for
that
business
to
the
property.
C
This
is
facing
west
and
then
he
has
shares
a
driveway
with
the
neighbors
immediately
to
the.
C
North
and
there
is
an
existing
barrage
now,
he
would
like
to
put
a
larger
structure
up
on
the.
C
Back
of
the
property
home
occupation
standards,
besides
having
to
meet
the
typical
conditional
use.
C
Just
some
of
the
original
from
last
year,
images
that
we
received
from
our
enforcement
staff.
C
When
the
notice
of
violation
was
sent,
this
is
the
shared
driveway,
and
these
here
on
the
right.
C
This
small
view
of
the
garage
here
on
the
right
with
the
pallets
in
front
is
mr
ayat
roll
aside.
C
And
then
sometimes
it
looks
like
this
and
there
are
pallets
in
the
front
and
then
this
is
his.
C
And
you're
not
changing
the
residential
character
of
the
area
and
so
all
of
the
requirements
try.
C
To
get
at
that,
so
I
will
briefly
go
over
those
and
then
discuss
the
ones
that
we
think.
C
May
have
issues
on
the
site,
so
the
first
is
that,
obviously
you
have
to
live
at
the
site.
C
Employees,
I
believe
that
mr
ayatarola
has
none.
There
is
a
maximum
floor
area
requirement.
C
Under
the
new
code
is
that
at
this
site,
because
it's
zoned
rm
the
maximum
total
cumulative.
C
Square
footage
that
that
could
be
used
on
this
site
for
a
business
and
an
accessory
structure.
C
Is
840
square
feet?
The
petitioner
currently
has
a
garage
that
is
about
360
square
feet
per.
C
The
county
property
record
card,
meaning
that
he
has
about
480
square
feet
to
work
with
if
he.
C
C
That's
not
a
lot
so
for
this
type
of
business
to
be
able
to
maneuver
inside
of
a
structure.
C
C
Going
to
be
able
to
operate
this
business
or
how
he's
operating
this
business
now
can't.
C
C
And
building
a
larger
one
on
the
back
of
the
site,
so
we
included
a
condition
of
approval.
C
Allowed
to
run
a
home
occupation
outside
of
a
building
and
again
that
gets
back
to.
C
What
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
where,
where
home
occupations,
we
want
to
encourage
them,.
C
We
want
to
encourage
small
business,
they
aren't
appropriate
in
residential
areas.
If.
C
They're,
changing
residential
character
are
affecting
the
[
__
],
the
neighbors
negatively.
C
Square
footage-
that's
a
non-issue
here.
This
is
the
only
business
residential
character.
C
Negatively
affecting
the
residential
character
of
the
area
he's
not
proposing.
C
C
We
added
a
condition
of
approval.
If
that's
possible,
then
he
could
run
the
business
here.
C
Excuse
me,
eight
and
nine
are
kind
of
geared
toward
more
traditional
home
occupations
of.
C
C
Or
loading
if
he
were
to
continue
to
receive
deliveries
from
customers
at
this
location.
C
C
We
just
don't
know
the
details
on
how
late
he
receives
pallets
in
his
petitioner
statement.
C
And
then
again
commercially
licensed
vehicles.
We
don't
believe
that
a
cdl
license
is.
C
And
then
13
is
the
big
one
where
deliveries
aren't
allowed
for
home
occupations
outside.
C
Of
typical
deliveries
that
you
would
receive
on
a
residential
parcel,
so
the
types
of.
C
The
types
of
residential
delivery
services
that
are
typically
used
for
residents
are
allowed.
C
Is
not
sure
that
he
can
meet
under
his
current
current
operation.
So
those
are
the
conditional.
C
Use
standards
and
excuse
me
that
are
specific
to
home
occupation
and
then,
of
course,
there
are.
C
We
do
think
that
there
are
you
know
of
his
current
operation.
Multiple
aspects
don't
need
code.
C
However,
if
he
can
change
his
operation
to
meet
them,
we
do
think
that
he
could.
You
know.
C
C
C
Know
that
the
site
requires,
you
know,
delivery
acceptance.
This
is
always
a
hard
one,
as
you
know,.
C
For
development
standards,
you
have
to
meet
these
three
requirements.
If
you
can
meet
all
the.
C
That
they
it's
clearly
a
product
that
can
be
that
can
be
picked
up.
So
you
may
hear
more.
C
Information
about
that
and
the
details
tonight
that
maybe
we
don't
quite
know
yet
it's
it's.
C
Hard
because
we're
calling
them
deliveries,
I
do
think
that,
based
on
their
scale
and
what
we've.
C
Seen
from
pictures
and
even
ones
submitted
by
the
petitioner
that
it
that
it
is
large
scale.
C
Client
would
for
any
other
home
occupation.
It's
just
that
they're
leaving
leaving
something.
C
Beauty,
parlor
or
something
inside
your
house.
We
think
that
this,
what.
C
C
Will
see
that
they
also
submitted
a
letter
from
some
of
the
neighbors
indicating
you
know
that.
C
They
don't
find
the
business
to
be
disruptive
that
they
would
like
him
to
be
able
to
continue.
C
To
operate,
you
know,
meeting
kind
of
those
first,
two
requirements
for
the
development
standards.
C
Variants,
so
we
have
written
the
report
in
such
a
way
that
if
the
petitioner
thinks
they
can
meet.
C
The
outstanding
requirements
for
home
occupation,
including
operating
inside
of
the
accessory.
C
Structure
entirely
no
outdoor
storage
whatsoever
operating
within
the
8
pm.
C
8
am
and
8
pm
business
hours
that
we
think
that
you
could
approve
the
variance
with.
C
That
findings
can
meet
those
requirements,
so
we
recommend
denial
on
that
portion.
C
C
A
Ask
you
please
to
I
need
to
swear,
swear
you
ain't,
even
though
you
are
technically
an
officer.
A
Of
the
court,
but
do
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
A
F
Okay,
thank
you
so
much.
The
first
thing
I
I
want
to
do
because
I
want
bob
to
be
as
much
if
not
more.
F
F
G
F
G
And
after
that
I
started
running
a
recycling
pallet
company
on
gosport
for
a
period
of
time.
G
And
my
family,
some
of
my
wife
got
separated
and
she
went
up
north.
I
moved
it
to
my
mom's
and.
G
I
ran
a
recycling
company
up
in
ham
and
a
pallet
recycling.
I've
been
in
the
palace
ever
since.
F
Now
I
would
I
would
I
wanted
you
to
know
that
the
the
staff
recommendations
we
did
just
receive.
F
Those
even
though
this
process-
and
I
understand
why
it
was
postponed
because
there
were
some.
F
Possible
changes
to
to
the
zoning
ordinance
and
those
things
that
apply
to
bob's
situation
and
so.
F
So
we've
been
we've
been
involved
with
this
for
quite
a
while
ryan
was
our
planner
and
then,
as
you.
F
Know
he
left
and
then
jackie
took
over
and
I
and
I
don't
know
how
much
work
was
done
when
she.
F
F
Business
comply
with
this
two
things,
though
I
did
want
to
address
in
the
in
the
packet
and
jackie.
F
C
F
F
Of
his
supports
his
position,
there
are
a
number
of
pictures
in
the
factory
that
I
hope
we
can
get.
F
To
as
well
that
show
how
clean
how
cleanly
his
business
is
run
and
the
and
the
time.
F
C
Yes,
they
were
okay
anyway,
so
this
is
what
it
looked
like
after
he
got
after
he
got
the.
F
F
F
F
Anybody
so
cut
me
off
if
I,
if,
if
I'm
going
over,
is
it
this
I've
always
lived
on
the
north
side
of.
F
17Th
street
and
you
know,
as
you
know,
that's
the
way
people
used
to
go
used
to
go
to
alexville.
It's.
F
Not
the
main
drive,
it's
not
the
main
thoroughfare
anymore,
so
I'm
really
familiar
with
this
area.
F
It's
like
most
of
the
entrances
to
bloomington.
As
you
know,
if
you
come
in
from
the
north
you're.
F
F
Into
and
then
from
that,
arlington
goes
off
to
the
northwest.
17Th
goes
goes
a
little
bit
south.
F
It
goes
up
by
the
by
the
middle
school.
So
when
I
started
I
went
to
the
I
went
to
the
roundabout.
F
F
Of
it
has
it
has
a
pretty
much
a
bear
field.
The
house
sits
on
a
large
piece
of
property
and.
F
F
A
lot
that,
as
far
as
I
can
tell,
is
more
like
a
jungle,
I
don't
know,
what's
back
in
there.
G
F
Which
is
not
in
the
trailer
and
there's
some
kind
of
a
shell
of
a
of
an
appliance
lane.
There.
F
F
G
G
F
F
F
F
F
F
Trucks,
it's
got
a
number
of
vehicles
there
and
bob
says
it
has
all
types
of
things
stored
back
in.
F
The
things
that
surround
the
area
he
lives
in
this
is
across
the
street
and
a
little
bit
east.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
Side
is
like
my
my
lofts
and
golf
course
is
on
the
north
side
of
town
and
it's
the
same
thing.
F
This
is
a
copy
of
the
letter
that
was
circulated
among
the
neighbors,
and
this
man
is.
F
F
F
You
going
to
say
yeah
I've
upgraded
my
property
since
I've
lived
there,
I
got
it
for
30
000.
G
G
G
And
there's
probably
about
30
that
I
could
keep
on
naming.
So
I
pick
up
a
lot
of
businesses.
G
I
have
a
few
big
customers
on
mitchell
and
bedford
too.
So,
could
you
could
you
briefly.
G
The
united
states
and
they're
abundant-
and
they
are
our
hardwoods,
just
70
percent
of
our.
G
Refurbish
them
and
they're
reused
over
and
over
and
over
again
there's
so
many
businesses.
G
G
G
I
have
no,
I
don't
have
any
semi
trucks
ever
as
as
of
right
now.
I've
only.
G
G
G
F
G
More
concrete,
but
I
don't
believe
it'll
be
seen
from
the
road
and
as
of
now
most
of
my,
the.
G
G
G
When
I
get
I
have
enough
pellets,
I
run
them,
I've
got
a
diesel
engine
and
it's
more.
F
G
Dump
three
or
four
times
a
year
and
that's
it
I'd,
probably
have
to
rent
something
from.
G
F
Know
nothing
about
this
and
I
was
very,
I
felt
very
positive
about
this
when
he
said
he
thought.
F
And
he
really
cares
about
the
community
and
his
neighbors
just
love
him.
So
you
know
based.
A
Or
the
petitioners,
the
petitioner,
who
would
who
would
like
to
start?
Who
has
a
question.
A
I'm
gonna
I'll
start
with
the
clarification
jackie.
If
you
could,
could
you
just
restate
what.
A
The
number
13
delivery,
the
parameters
are
for
home
business
at
home
occupation.
What
is
that's.
C
So
we
had
some
internal
debate
about
whether
or
not
these
are
deliveries.
C
Someone
who's
driving
to
your
house
in
a
pickup
truck
and
leaving
something
so
that
you
can
then.
C
C
C
It's
just
a
little,
I
think,
odd,
that
was
kind
of
our
only
our
only
way
of
thinking
that
we
could.
C
C
Thinking
that
we
could
continue
to
allow
some
sort
of
operation
similar
to
what
he's
doing.
C
Now
related
to
having
people
drop
them
drop
off.
The
pallets
would
be
that
you
know
some
sort
of.
A
A
A
A
Had
is
this,
this
was
recently
rezoned.
Was
there
any
consideration
at
that
time?.
A
The
home
occupation
would
no
longer
be
relevant
yes,
so
the
only
we
did
discuss
it.
Of
course,.
C
Because
we
knew
that
this
was
kind
of
in
the
wings.
The
issue
is
that
the
comprehensive.
C
Area
as
neighborhood
residential,
so
which
is
primarily
residential
uses
with
some.
C
We
kind
of
talked
it
over
rezoning
this
one
lot
just
to
address
an
enforcement
issue.
C
You
know
that
doesn't
have
another
kind
of
characteristic
that
would
make
it
be.
C
Suitable
for
commercial
didn't
really
make
sense.
I
mean
it
would
be
old
strictly
to.
C
C
C
At
the
intersection
areas
primarily
and
the
areas
south
of
here
that
this
area
south
to
the.
C
Roundabout
was
rezoned
to
multi-family,
so
also
you'll,
see,
and
I
don't
know.
C
C
What
we
see
a
lot
is
that,
when
properties
are
listed,
when
they're
listed
for
multifamily.
C
It
will
say
commercial
because
of
the
type
of
of
listing
that
that
is
to
maybe
make.
C
It
clear
that
it's
not
single
family,
so
that,
like
in
the
first
image
that
they
showed.
C
A
Yes,
yes,
so
when
we're
talking
about
deliveries,
he
said
that
he
he's
doing
about
50
to
60.
B
G
E
Please
joe,
this
is
for
jackie.
It
sounds
to
me
look
at
the
recommendations
recommended
approval.
E
E
Recommend
if
he
were
to
conduct
this
these
to
do
these
six
conditions,
he
would
be
in
compliance.
C
E
Right
we're
gonna
go,
do
all
those
things
yeah.
This
is
a
weird
one,
since
it's
already
going.
C
On
we're
kind
of
saying
we
don't
know
enough
about
the
business,
we
would
like
you
to.
C
E
Weeks
months
years,
right
what?
What
is
that?
I
think
what
we
were
hoping
for
was
with
the
discussion.
C
Tonight,
between
the
petitioner
and
the
board,
him
giving
you
a
timeline
for
what,
if
he
thought.
C
If
you
thought
that
was
reasonable
and
we
would
include
that
amend
the
conditions
to
include.
C
That
those
things
needed
to
be
done
by
a
certain
time,
because
you
know
just
it
begs
the
question.
E
To
come
up
with,
how
long
will
it
take
for
him
to
build
a
secondary
structure
in
order
to
house.
C
You
have
to
meet
all
13.,
so
you
have
to
find
a
way
to
meet
them
all.
If
you
can.
C
Be
fully
operational
within
the
code,
if
you
aren't
done
by
that
time,
staff
will
start.
C
Meet
the
requirements
set
forth
here
and
if
he
can't,
then
he
has
to
stop.
But
we
can.
B
For
the
delivery,
add
some
root
point
correct,
correct.
You
would
have
to
propose
a
finding.
E
C
Kind
of
a
suggestion
of
yeah
you
would
have
to
change
the
third
finding
about
and
supply
what.
C
Do
you
think
the
peculiar
condition
on
site
is
that
requires
that
he
accept
deliveries.
I
E
Of
they're
sitting
right
behind
the
mailbox
out
on
the
street,
you
know
that
goes
to
speak.
A
Okay,
so
I'd
like
to
ask
for
a
clarification
exactly
so
I
we
can
understand
what
those
vehicles.
A
A
It's
not
that
it's
not
mr
ayatora's
vehicles,
because
he's
allowed
to
bring
material
back
to
his.
A
Property,
it's
what's
being
delivered
so
what
type
of
vehicles?
If
you
could
explain
the
size.
G
G
Around
the
property,
too,
you
know
people
hauling
their
race,
cars
and
stuff.
G
And
yes,
it
does
look
a
little
monumental
when,
when
they're
stacked,
22
high
with
the
gentleman.
G
But
it
is
very
safe,
we
scrap
them
and
up
to
the
dot
code.
G
And
I
it
and
it
does
look
pretty
awesome
when
you're
driving
by
there,
when
the
truck
is
full.
G
Or
on
pickup
trucks
correct,
I
picked
up
so
small
scale
vehicles,
yes
very
small
scale,.
A
Jackie
is,
is
this
oh
new
information
for
you?
No,
I
mean
no,
so
I
think
it's
the
language
like
joe.
C
Said
here
again,
I'll
share
it
delivers
to
the
property,
should
not
be
permitted,
except.
C
Yeah,
like
a
fedex
or
ups
or
usps,
it
just
doesn't
address.
C
Lived
there,
so
then
that's
how
they
exclude
the
other
typical
residential
delivery
services.
C
Bit
earlier
that
the
idea
is
probably
to
exclude
lots
of
extra
truck
traffic
and.
A
Do
we
have
purview
to
to
to
find
a
way
to
say
that
the
the
variance
in
the
way
that
we
interpret.
A
The
deliveries
that
the
development
standard
variance
isn't
required.
C
C
Ask
you
to
clarify,
I
feel,
like
you
probably
do
but
michael
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
because
I'm.
C
Remembering,
for
example,
when
we
had
a
conditional
use,
we
had
a
conditional
use,
a
request
for.
C
I
don't
know
if
this
is
ringing
a
bell
for
anyone
have
related
to.
I
just
can't
think
of
the.
C
Use
name,
but
where,
basically,
you
ruled
that
you
thought
it
was
a
medical
clinic
and.
C
Not
a
rehab
facility,
and
so
we
didn't
even
hear
the
second
one
mike
is
that
related
or
similar.
D
Yes,
I
guess
the
question
is,
and
I
kind
of
brought
this
on
us
earlier
by
saying:
is
it
possible.
C
Technically,
even
deliveries,
because
it's
not
that's
all,
that's
that's
what
she's
asking.
D
D
C
Yes,
that
the
variance
is
denied
but
that
the
types
of
uses
you
the
types
of
traffic
to
the.
C
C
C
That,
but
we
are
saying
you
can't
get
deliveries
as
described
in
the
udo.
That's
a
decision.
E
E
Meeting
the
the
conditional
use
the
six
points
that
are
currently
outlined,
I
think.
E
E
You
know
what
I'm
concerned
about,
and
I've
brought
this
up
before
is
anytime.
Someone
asks
for.
E
A
variance
or
a
change
like
this
that
sometimes
these
things
just
get
lost
with.
E
Things
continued
to
go
as
they
go
so
that
that
always
concerns
me
of
doing
something.
A
If
you
have
something
to
say,
this
is
really
our
time
just
to
ask
questions.
Yeah
you'll
have
an.
E
Say
I
mean
that's
that
the
the
variance
for
that
for
the
delivery,
the
definition
bill
where.
E
A
A
Further
questions
at
this
point,
because
we
can
we
have
more
time
to
discuss
this
and
we
still.
A
Construction
and
how
quickly?
What
is
realistic
if
you'd
like
to
comment,
mr
ayatora.
G
A
Would
want
to
continue
to
run
your
business
during
construction
and
during
during
that
time,.
G
I
I
guess
I
have
a
question
so
there's
no
neighborhood
complaints
right
now.
G
Just
instead
of
doing
it
ourselves,
but
I
think
it'll
be
a
lot
smoother.
This.
G
A
Discussion
and
action
actually
before
that
are
are
there?
Is
there
any
remaining
time?
Oh,
they
have.
A
Two
minutes:
two:
you
have
two
two
more
minutes
to
provide
any
further
comments.
You'd,
like.
G
G
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
we
need
to
keep
dumping.
G
H
A
Possible
for
you
operationally
to
shift
your
business
to
to.
G
A
Any
thoughts,
questions
discussions,
anybody
ready
to
make
a
motion
I'd
like
to
move
that
we.
E
E
E
E
E
A
Any
discussion
I'll
just
start
with
the
statement
of
why
I
want
to
do
it
this
way.
I.
E
Don't
think
there's
anything
wrong
with
working
with
the
petitioner,
I
think
he's
he
wants
to
come.
E
That
he
requested
so
we're
working
on
his
timeline
and
we're
also
giving
some
flexibility
to
the.
B
Are
saying
about
the
deliveries
is
that
he
will
be
allowed
to
continue
his
business
as
he
is
doing.
C
Okay,
so
the
motion
is
approval
with
the
six
conditions,
two
amended
and
burrell.
Yes,.
C
C
Staff
report
staff
report-
please
here
sorry,
the
petition
is
located
on
south
liberty
drive.
C
Some
of
you
have
already
seen
this
petition.
This
is
starbucks.
C
Third
appearance:
the
board
of
zoning
appeals.
I
will
cover
quickly
for
our
newest
member.
C
Since
been
rezoned
but
was
pv1
filed
and
the
comprehensive
plan
designation
is.
C
Employment
center
and
surrounding
uses
include
multi-tenant
center,
big-box,
retail,
restaurant
and.
C
Financial
institution,
so
you
can
see
here
with
access
and
frontage
off
of
liberty,.
C
Vehicle
parking
allowance
for
use,
restaurant
and
that
parking
allowance
is
based
on.
C
This
petition
a
couple
of
times
as
we
have
asked
with
other
petitions
where
petitioners.
C
That
have
similar
characteristics
in
this
case
near
highway,
intersections
no
street
parking,
no.
C
Immediately
obvious
shared
parking
opportunities
and
as
a
way
of
kind
of
justifying
their.
C
Request
for
excessive
parking
outside
of
what
is
allowed
by
code,
so
at
this
location,.
C
The
site,
and
also
including
some
spaces
with
permeable
pavers
and
you
can
see
where.
C
The
parking
is
located
here,
entrance
off
of
liberty,
parking
on
both
sides
and
then
around.
C
Previous
staff
reports
having
issue
again
with
the
number
three
here:
what
are
the
peculiar.
C
Conditions
related
to
property
and
use
of
the
property
for
that
have
been
shown
to
the.
C
Board
and
justified
that
the
variants
needed
to
be
issued,
so
what
we
have
received
since
the
last.
C
Hearing
is
counts
from
similar
stores,
so
these
are
not
parking
spaces.
These
are
actual
parking.
C
Counts,
they
were
done
at
8
am
which
is
right
in
the
middle
of
their
peak
time,
and
the
number
of.
C
Cars
in
the
parking
lot
were
counted
every
day
for
a
week
at
these
three
locations
of
starbucks.
C
Locations
so
again,
the
highest
here
at
the
peak
time
was
29
with
a
number
of.
C
C
Times
the
allowable
of
code,
but
the
numbers
that
were
submitted
for
comparable
stores.
C
The
highest
was
29
and
again
with
a
with
a
more
prevalent
maximum
of
27,
so
we
feel.
C
Along
with
a
condition
that
they
will
work
with
the
department
on
the
three
spaces
that
need.
C
J
J
For
meeting
with
us
tonight,
as
jackie
mentioned,
this
is
our
our
third
time
coming
to
the
bca.
J
To
a
traditional
restaurant,
so
we
we
don't
feel
that
the
typical
language
that
would
allow.
J
J
Here
with
you
tonight,
we
also
believe
that,
given
the
proximity
to
the
interstate
that
this.
J
Provided
at
other
starbucks
restaurants
in
the
the
same
region
of
indiana,.
J
And
that
did
yield
that,
on
average,
those
parking
lots
had
33
parking
stalls
on
the
dot.
J
J
Used
but
our
number
one
goal
tonight
is
to
come
to
a
resolution
and
work
with
the
board
on.
J
Coming
up
with
the
correct
number
that
they
feel
is
appropriate,
so
we
do
agree
to
do
that.
J
Willing
to
work
with
staff
on
where
those
are
most
appropriately
removed.
So
with
that,
I'm.
J
E
More
than
I
think,
10,
maybe
11
spaces
when
the
photo
was
taken.
My
question
is:
did
you
see
that.
E
Do
you
feel
that
supports
our
ordinance
of
not
needing
three
times
as
many
spaces.
E
Yes,
yeah,
I
think
that's
a
good
question.
So,
yes,
and
you
know
we-
we
presented
similar
information.
C
Locations
here
in
bloomington,
because
something
that
had
been
submitted
from
petitioner.
C
C
That
that
that
that
does
support
our
assertion,
that
less
is
probably
needed
based
on
code,
but.
C
I
I
do
think
that,
based
on
how
we
have
looked
at
this
type
of
question
in
the
past,
we
have
given.
C
A
lot
of
deference
to
the
actual
car
counts,
and
we
did
that
with
culvers.
And
because
those
are.
C
C
Actual
kind
of
cycle
of
a
week
as
opposed
to
you,
know
one
aerial
a
year
that
could
have
happened.
C
You
know
that
we
don't
know
even
what
time
of
day
or
what
day
of
the
week
it
is.
But
yes,
I,
your.
C
Point
is
taken
a
couple
more
questions,
very
quick
to
the
petitioner.
This
is
in
the
two
times
that.
E
I've
heard
this
this
is
there's
been
reference
that
this
is
an
interstate
starbucks,
where
people.
J
The
local
commuter,
but
do
you
feel
that
they're
driving
through
to
get
coffee
or
that.
J
J
During
peak
hour
by
transaction-
yes,
that
is
true:
yeah,
okay.
The
second
question.
J
B
B
B
A
starbucks
on
46
and
at
similar
times
as
I
am
going
to
show
property.
B
And
and
it's
always
full
in
the
peak
hours
and
I'm
not
talking
about
the
drive-through.
B
Restroom
or
whatever
it
is,
but
anyway,
so
I
was
glad
to
see
this
report.
It
kind
of
reflects
of.
B
A
Has
you
know
happened
a
lot,
it's
on
the
rise,
or
it
just
seems
a
significant
change.
A
Over
the
last
year
or
two-
yes,
absolutely
so
that
was
unfortunately,
a
byproduct
of
of
cobid.
C
Actually,
the
petitioner
property
owner,
so
I
don't
know
if
you'd
want
to
let
him
speak.
A
A
Dave
hi,
could
you
please
state
your
name
dave
cayman?
Do
you
swear
to
tell
the
truth
the
whole.
A
Truth
and
nothing,
but
the
truth.
Yes,
okay,
I
believe
there's
a
lot
of
time
in
reserve,
jackie,
yes,.
C
K
I
just
had
two
quick
points
number
one,
mr
rockmorton
asked.
If
anybody
did
contact
the.
K
K
K
Auditorium
and
so
forth
and
a
lot
of
festivals
and
so
forth.
So.
E
E
E
E
I
jotted
down
that
let's
split
the
difference
and
go
25
because
they
want
30
additional
spaces.
E
So,
let's
just
split
the
difference.
I
think
the
city's
being
a
little
too
generous
by
going
to
30.
E
For
that
space,
the
final
thing
that
I
do
want
to
kind
of
stress
is
that
yeah.
E
There's
there's
a
roadway
there,
but
the
parking
spaces
as
presented
to
us
two
months
ago,.
E
Were
really
necessary
for
use
of
their
employees,
there
is
very
close
to
that.
E
E
Comments
because
I
do
think
it
supports
some
of
my
concerns,
but
I
I
would
say
that
if
we
were
to.
C
E
Give
them
11
additional
and
then
they
can
go
through
any
further
petitions
for
additional.
E
Our
udo
under
the
from
the
plane
department,
there's
nothing
stopping
them
from
developing.
E
What's
being
asked
for
is
additional
spaces,
but
they
can
build
this
and
their
business
can
go.
E
B
A
different
type
of
business:
this
is
not
a
restaurant
as
we
have
as
we
look.
B
At
the
the
as
we
look
in
the
udo,
this
is
a
unique
business
where
people
come
in.
B
Find
a
clean,
a
clean
restaurant
and
and
caffeine
when
you're
driving,
so
it
I
see
this
as
a
as.
B
I
I
think
they
are
jackie,
did
a
very
good
job
in
looking
at
the
data
and
coming
up
with
the.
B
Findings
for
us,
so
I
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve
what
jackie
has
proposed.
A
E
E
Think
is
going
to
cause
the
business
a
problem.
They
will
have
enough
spaces
based
on
their
own.
B
B
B
E
Work
responsibly
to
to
find
alternative
parking
for
their
employees,
that's
accessible.
A
Okay,
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
roll
call.
A
Good
luck
and
thank
you
thank
you
have
a
good
evening.
You
too,
okay,
we
are
on
to.
A
Case
cu
dash
13-21,
I
don't
know
who's
presenting.
Oh
that's,.
L
Sorry
about
that
I
didn't
realize
I
was
muted.
This
is
for
the
property
located
at
422
east.
L
Kirkwood
currently
zoned
mixed
use,
downtown
and
in
the
university
village
overlay
district.
L
Commercial
space
on
the
ground
floor
and
apartments
above
and
the
petitioner
is.
L
The
reason
that
this
is
coming
before
you
today
is
because,
in
the
mixed
use,
downtown.
L
University
village
district,
a
standardized
business
requires
conditional
use
approval.
L
Has
a
uniform
look
or
brand
associated
with
it?
So
most
you
know
like
major.
L
L
Use
approval,
but
what
the
code
says
for
a
standardized
business
in
the
mduv
district
is
that.
L
L
L
L
L
This
use
will
require
a
grease
interceptor.
The
petitioner
is
working
with
city
of
limited.
L
And
no
neighborhood
meeting
was
required
with
this
petition,
so
no
adverse
impacts
are
found.
B
Thank
you
keegan
the
petitioners
representative.
B
M
Note
that
our
the
building
owner,
michael
eaton
with
rubicon,
is
also
in
attendance
here.
A
A
Swear
each
person
in
as
they
before
they
speak.
Okay
of,
of
course,
thank
you
of
up
to
20
minutes.
M
Wonderful,
so
I
think
keegan
did
a
a
wonderful
job
of
of
going
through
the
thought
process
and.
M
And
ideas
that
went
into
the
signage
design
that
you
see
here
before
you,
it
is
quite
a
minimal.
M
Design
but
we
are
wanting
to
be
very
cognizant
of
the
tenants
above
the
the
proposed
restaurant.
M
Be
part
of,
as
I
would
say,
our
prototype
design,
this
sign
design
here
on
the
front
facade.
M
On
the
canopy,
it's
a
channel
letters
with
a
small
oval
logo,
and
that
is
not
typical
of
our
of
our.
M
Be
able
to
utilize
for
the
operation
of
the
store
we
had
proposed
a
blade
sign,
but
again.
M
Welcome
we
are
to
the
board
for
questions
of
staff
or
petitioner.
Does
anyone
have
one.
A
Yep,
I
don't
see
anyone
okay
great,
then
we
are
back
to
the
petitioner
for
any
further.
A
Comments,
you
have
none
here,
then
we
are
to
the
board
for
aim.
A
C
So
this
vote
is
for
approval
conditions:
clapper,
yes,
brockmorton,
yes,
morel,
yes,
sunborn.
C
A
Strouser
construction
company,
can
we
please
have
the
staff
report
sure
thing.
L
So
this
is
for
the
property
located
at
1300.
North
lincoln
is
in
the
northeast
corner
of
the.
L
L
Parking
lot
for
that
portion
that
sticks
out
from
the
building,
so
the
eight
foot
side
parking.
L
L
Rather
than
the
what
is
currently
shown,
but
so
the
petitioner
is
requesting
a
variance
to.
L
Allow
for
the
five-foot
side,
parking
setback,
here's
just
some
renderings
of
the
structure.
L
On
the
site,
the
criteria
for
the
use
and
value
of
the
adjacent
properties
is
included
in
this.
L
L
L
L
L
L
It's
very
difficult
for
the
petitioner
to
meet
all
of
those
regulations.
There's
not
street
parking.
L
L
Foot
of
the
a
required
eight
foot
side,
parking
setback
so
based
on
that
the
department
does.
L
L
Approval
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
thanks
keegan
petitioner's
representative.
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
A
We
are
to
the
board
for
for
questions
of
the
petitioner
and
staff.
B
There
you
go
yes,
so,
and
maybe
the
petitioner
can
speak
to
this
as
well,
but
on
the
I
think.
L
This
is
the
west
side
is
where
the
entrance
is,
where
you
enter
the
parking
garage
and.
L
Where
you
see
this
dumpster
enclosure
here
behind,
that
is
where
the
parking
sticks
out.
C
Services
manager-
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
the
reason
the
parking
is
sticking
out.
C
And
they
don't
want
to
meet
that,
so
what
they
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
have
parking
in
this.
C
Keegan
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
so
they
would
like
to
have
on-site
parking.
C
Will
stick
out
below
the
building?
There
will
be
a
retaining
wall
there,
and
so
so
then,
all.
C
Parking
in
all
parking
in
the
udo
has
some
sort
of
setback.
So
in
order
to
be
able
to
meet
their.
C
C
They
because
the
property
is
only
about
60
feet
wide.
We
understand
that
the.
C
There
was
going
to
be
some
difficulty
meeting
front
setback,
rear
setback.
C
And
parking
setbacks
and
so
an
encroachment
was
necessary.
So
that's
why
they're
asking
for.
C
However,
we
have
been
saying
to
them
for
some
time
that
you
know
inclusion
of
the
16-foot.
C
C
To
begin
with,
and
some
of
the
concerns
that
were,
for
example,
raised
by
the
environmental.
C
Commission,
you
know
about
prioritizing:
do
we
want
to
prioritize
vehicular
parking
over.
C
Allowing
green
buffer
space
to
train
properties,
so,
yes,
is
this
kind
of
a
unique
design.
C
Again,
with
the
it's
basically
the
basement
floor
and
there's
no
roof
on
it,
so
it's
just
open
to.
C
The
open
air,
so
then
we
had
to
we
decided
to
go
ahead
and
we
determined
that
that
could.
C
C
C
B
C
B
C
Said
it
wasn't
possible,
could
it
be
buried
basically
so
that
you
didn't
even
know
it
was.
C
There
so
that
it
was
enclosed
and
was
green
on
top
and
we,
I
was
told
that
wasn't
possible.
C
Who
was
in
that
case?
I
I
believe
I
spoke
about
that
with
mr
ellenwood
and
he
can
correct.
C
Entirely
under
I,
I
think
we
could
have
worked
with
the
setback
in
a
different
way,
because
it.
B
N
N
A
Yes,
and
could
you
can
you
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
yes?
So
what
I
know
of
it
is
that.
C
Historically,
parking
spaces
are
nine
by
18
minimum
unless
they're
compact
spaces,
and
that
when.
C
We
were
going
through
the
process
of
doing
the
code
update.
We
looked
at
other
codes
and.
C
Trends
and
changes
as
we
always
do,
you
know
to
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
updated
with.
C
Dedicating
less
of
our
space
to
vehicles,
but
still
having
enough
space
for
them
to
be.
C
Able
to
for
vehicles
to
be
able
to
utilize
the
parking,
lots
and
parking
spaces.
So
yes,
we.
C
Reduced
the
parking
lot
length,
I'm
excuse
me
parking
space
length
for
90
degree,
parking.
C
To
16
feet,
which
has
become
a
bit
of
a
standard
in
our
field,
okay,
thank
you.
I
didn't
realize
that.
A
Wanting
as
much
kind
of
space
in
the
garage
as
possible,
I
feel
like
we
are
really
trying
to.
A
Rather
than
the
length
that
is
at
issue
in
allowing
you
to
get
in
out
of
spaces,
so.
A
A
This
this
seems
to
be
a
safe
situation,
which
is
what
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that.
A
16
feet,
even
though
it
may
not
be
ideal
from
the
petitioner's
point
of
view.
A
Good
luck
to
the
project,
and
thank
you
all
for
your
time
this
evening.
Thank
you,
jessica,.