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A
Well,
good
evening,
we
are
now
convening
the
committee
of
the
whole
here,
beginning
with
ordinance
23-25
and
to
begin
the
presentation
this
evening.
I
understand.
We
may
hear
some
remarks
from
mayor
Hamilton.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
If
it's
okay,
I
may
can
I
shift
this
a
little
bit
or
is
that
going
to
break
anything?
We
usually
try
to
look
at
you
a
little
good
evening,
good
to
be
with
you.
Thank
you
again.
I
also
want
to
thank,
as
we
begin
this
evening.
B
So
30
days
ago,
we
began
our
detailed
budget
presentations,
including
with
some
context
and
history
of
our
communities.
Excellent
position
now
tonight
is
the
formal
budget
hearing
on
six
ordinances
and
for
the
public
will
briefly
outline
key
parts
of
the
budget
and
particularly
note
changes
since
that
August
presentation
week.
You'll
also
hear
from
controller
Underwood
and
human
resource
director
Pearson
to
add
their
comments
and
the
cabinet
are
available
as
well
tonight.
B
When
you
add
the
arpa
Creed
19,
that
total
is
248
million
dollars
up
7.6
percent
from
2023
Beyond,
adding
the
detailed
arpa
Creed
Appropriations,
which
we'll
review
in
a
moment
Financial
changes
made
since
the
August
budget
presentations
are
one,
including
the
five
percent
increase
to
council
compensation,
which
was
inadvertently
left
out.
Two
increasing
the
city
clerk
annual
compensation
to
eighty
seven
thousand
dollars
to
conform
to
the
resolution
that
this
Council
passed.
B
Three
increasing
the
digital
Equity
position
in
information
and
Technology
services
to
full-time
from
half
time
paid
out
of
digital
Equity
payments
from
the
vendor
and
four,
a
slight
fourteen
thousand
dollar
increase
in
the
property
tax
caps,
negative
impact
based
on
new
information.
We
got
from
the
state.
Those
are
the
four
Financial
changes
other
than
the
Harper
Creek.
B
B
B
Second,
the
2024
budget
continues
and
expands
ongoing
major
investments
in
our
Public
Safety
efforts.
We're
doubling
support
for
centerstone's,
988
response,
Services,
enhancing
our
9-1-1
systems
and
protocols
and
piloting
two
new
ways
to
respond
to
9-1-1
calls
One
Pilot
a
team
was
sworn
police
officer,
Like,
a
downtown
resource
officer
and
one
or
two
non-sworn
colleagues.
Another
pilot
will
be
two
non-sworn
Public
Safety
employees,
which
will
also
include
five
FTE
new
non-sworn
temporary
community
service
specialists,
who
will
focus
on
Services
downtown,
that's
funded
from
the
existing
base,
BPD
budget
Police
Department
budget.
B
The
fire
department
will
also
expand
non-sworn
services
with
three
new
community
paramedic
positions
to
collaborate
with
the
mobile
Integrated
Health
Program
launched
last
year.
We
also
will
expand
recruitment
support
overall
and
continue
our
rental
and
down
payment
assistance.
Programs
for
Public
Safety
officers
living
in
the
city,
I
can
also
report.
We
are
in
final
negotiations
with
a
lender
to
partner
on
the
100
000
down
payment,
purchase
program,
support
to
be
announced
soon,
for
which
we've
received
five
submissions
of
Interest.
B
Thus
far
tonight
we
bring
two
new
important
adjustments
to
enhance
Public
Safety,
both
within
the
budget
that
we
have
presented
first
for
the
fire
department
in
light
of
ongoing
pressures
on
retention.
In
particular,
we
seek
to
increase
the
August
package,
which
you
may
recall
added
an
extra
three
percentage
points
and
five
hundred
dollars
to
the
labor
contract
in
this
year's
pay
and
replace
that,
with
a
flat,
five
thousand
dollar
increase
in
pay
for
all
fire
all
sworn
firefighters
over
their
2023
pay.
B
B
Second,
for
police.
As
you
know,
the
current
labor
contract
has
included
major
salary
increases.
In
addition,
in
order
to
continue
to
enhance
recruitment
in
2024,
we
will
increase
base
pay
for
new
probationary
officers
by
five
thousand
dollars.
Those
positions
are
already
budgeted
at
the
officer
first
class
salary,
so
no
budget
increase
is
needed.
B
These
Public
Safety
Investments,
along
with
the
new
Public
Safety
headquarters
underway
in
showers
West,
will
accelerate
and
deepen
the
ongoing
Progressive
evolution
of
bloomington's
Public
Safety
Services,
which
are,
in
my
opinion,
the
best
in
the
state
third
area
to
continue
our
recover
forward
program.
We
asked
to
appropriate
19.4
million
dollars
of
one-time
investments
from
the
final
year
of
arpa
funds,
along
with
the
recently
released
Creed
funds
like
previous
arpa
Investments.
B
The
proposals
will
help
achieve
Key
Community
objectives
and
support
long-term
transformational,
Investments
ones
that
also
potentially
can
leverage
substantial,
additional
funding,
2024
budgets,
one-time
Investments
Encompass
about
12
million
dollars
in
Creed
funds
and
seven
million
dollars
in
arpa
Split
among
five
major
categories.
We
went
through
these
generally
back
in
August
I'll,
just
repeat
the
details
and
the
allocations
between
the
two
funding
sources.
First
is
11
million
dollars
in
basic
infrastructure
Investments
with
particular
impact
in
improved
resilience,
safety
and
efficiency
and
a
focus
on
downtown.
B
2.7
million
dollars
also
Creed
to
improve
our
traffic
signals
to
allow
preemption
and
better
coordination
for
Transit
and
Public
Safety
vehicles,
1.2
million
dollars
in
neighborhood
Greenway
support
and
two
million
dollars
specifically
for
downtown
enhancements,
including
lighting
art
safety
and
necessary
garage
maintenance.
Investments
These
funds
are
found
in
the
budgets
of
the
Public
Works
engineering
and
planning
and
transportation
departments,
with
a
small
amount
in
economic,
sustainable
development.
B
The
second
major
category
is
4.5
million
dollars
for
one-time
housing
investments,
mostly
from
arpa,
including
half
a
million
dollars
for
very
low
income,
housing
and
homeless
services.
Two
million
dollars
for
Workforce,
affordable
rental
supports
and
two
million
dollars
for
home
ownership
supports,
which
includes
one
million
from
Crete
together.
This
will
help
sustain
great
momentum
on
housing
to
keep
expanding
our
nearly
1
400
units
of
affordable
housing
developed
in
the
last
few
years.
B
The
third
category
is
1.6
million
dollars
assigned
to
economic
and
sustainable
development,
including
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
jobs
and
Workforce
Development,
with
325
000
from
arpa
and
475
000
from
Creed
575
thousand
dollars
for
continued
solar
and
efficiency.
Investments,
two
hundred
thousand
from
arpa
the
remaining
375
000
from
Creed
and
225
000
from
Creed
for
downtown
activation
through
Arts
and
Cultural
Partnerships.
B
B
The
proposed
budget
will
help
grow
the
middle
class
in
Bloomington,
with
good
jobs.
It
will
lower
costs
and
improve
quality
of
life
with
investments
in
transportation
and
housing
and
public
spaces
and
events.
Please
also
don't
forget,
all
of
us,
the
critically
important
child
care
costs
that
will
be
addressed
by
the
upcoming
School
referendum.
B
This
budget
invests
in
our
people,
both
inside
city
government
and
in
our
community
as
a
whole,
and
it
invests
in
our
security,
both
with
its
Public
Safety
enhancements
and
responses
to
the
climate
crisis.
I'm
very
proud
of
the
work
that
everybody's
done
for
this
I
want
to.
Thank
again,
all
the
staff
who've
worked
so
hard
to
put
all
this
together
and
your
attention
I
hope,
I'll
get
your
support.
A
C
So
what
I
see
in
your
proposal,
the
Investments
that
are
talked
about
in
I,
asked
for
a
breakdown
of
the
arpa
and
Creed
funds
that
would
be
used
to
enable
some
of
these
initiatives
and
a
full
10
million
dollars
are
going
to
be
will
be
spent
from
the
Creed
on
these
initiatives,
but
I
find
that
at
least
7.9
million
of
those
dollars
are
going
to
projects
that
are
not
in
or
it's
it's.
It
can't
be
determined
whether
they're
in
district
6
and
the
Creed,
which
is
where
the
money
was
raised
from.
C
Can
you
please
talk
about
why
it
is
that
well,
I
mean
I.
I
have
a
number
of
questions?
Maybe
I
should
just
let
you
start
by
saying
why
you
use
Creed
funds
in
that
way.
B
The
Creed
funds,
the
that
we
we
talk
about
local
resources
just
to
put
the
context
for
everybody.
Creed
funds
was
a
district
created,
as,
as
you
reminded
me,
I
believe
at
the
near
the
end
of
the
Fernandez
Administration,
and
it
was
a
state
program
that
allowed
us
to
identify
a
district
from
which
a
certain
pers,
a
certain
component
of
the
regular
state
taxes
paid
by
Enterprises.
There
would
be
returned
from
the
state
to
us
to
use
for
various
purposes
intended
to
help
accelerate
development
in
the
district,
and
it
was
a
large
District
I.
B
It's
important
to
note
that
those
taxes
were
there
were
nobody
in
the
Crete
District
paid
any
different
taxes
from
anybody
outside
the
Creed
District
everybody
paid
the
same
taxes
to
the
state
the
state
had
determined.
We
will
give
you
back
some
of
that
money,
Community
to
use
for
these
purposes,
and
we
did
use
those
for
some
of
those
purposes.
B
We,
as
you
know,
I,
think
through
the
council.
We
terminated
that
District
we
have
a
balance,
have
had
a
balance
of
16
plus
18
million
of
creed.
B
We
have
used
some
of
that
money
in
The
District
in
the
past,
but
that
big
balance
has
remained
I
will
say,
and
we
may
have
philosophical
differences
about
this,
but
our
approach
in
this
Administration
has
been
certainly
to
be
cognizant
of
needs
in
the
downtown
district
generally,
and
a
great
deal
of
this
investment
will
go
to
the
downtown,
but
I
think
we
took
a
broader
lens
and
said
what
are
the
most
impactful
Investments
That
one-time
Investments
that
could
be
made
with
this
and
through
a
long
process
of
iteration
with
our
staff
and
we've
shared
it
with
you,
certainly
for
for
quite
some
time
identified
those
needs.
B
That
will
certainly
include
some
in
the
downtown,
but
that
will
be
a
detailed
process
to
develop
exactly
which
ones
that
would
be
based
on
Street
quality,
Equity
issues,
timing,
all
kinds
of
things
like
that,
so
we
cannot
give
an
exact
allocation
of
that.
But
we
have
approached
this
with
a
pretty
broad
lens
of
what
is
most
valuable
to
advance
the
city's
interests.
C
Well,
I
want
to
call
your
attention
to
the
well
I
mean
before
I
put
up
the
document
that
created
the
Creed
I
will
acknowledge.
Yes,
the
first
district
was
the
Thompson
Creed,
which
was
reacting
to
the
loss
of
the
RCA
site
in
1997-8,
and
then
the
state
allowed
a
second
district
to
be
created,
so
we
decided
that
the
downtown
needed
revitalization
and
that
ordinance
was
passed
at
the
end
of
2003,
so
and
districts
was
supposed
to
last
15
years
now.
That
period
coincided
with
the
first
term
of
your
Administration
there.
C
One
of
them
was
a
mere
thirty
two
thousand
dollars
to
rehab
part
of
the
Chase
Bank
building
for
a
new
business
and
the
other
was
730,
some
thousand
dollars
to
rehab
The
Fountain
Square
building
for
envisage,
but
there
Still
Remains
something
like,
as
you
said,
seven
million
dollars
in
the
Thompson
Creed
and
10
million
dollars,
plus
in
the
downtown
Creed.
That
were
never
spent.
C
B
I
think
the
short
answer
is
we
we
treated
I'll
tell
you,
we
treated
the
Creed
asset
if
you
will
as
a
kind
of
a
investment
pool
that
could
be
used
in
the
case,
for
example,
of
another
Catalan
cook
Pharmaca.
In
the
case
of
a
major
economic
development
project
that
we
may
be
coming,
we
certainly
didn't
spend
it
quickly.
We
used
a
lot
of
Tiff
money
instead
of
that
of
creed,
funding
and
I.
C
C
Yeah,
so
this
is
resolution
0326
that
I
have
on
the
screen
here
and
I
want
to
call
attention
to
this,
whereas
Clause
I'm
going
to
read
part
of
it,
whereas
bloomington's
downtown
needs
assistance
to
remain
vital
as
the
cost
of
developing
and
operating
a
business
downtown
are
significantly
greater
than
the
cost
of
new
development
in
a
Greenfield
area.
The
following
conditions
make
the
creation
of
a
downtown
Creed
District
desirable,
and
it
names
several
things.
Downtown
vacancies
utility
infrastructure
parking
infrastructure
is
particularly
interesting.
One
to
me,
employment
opportunities
and
building
upgrades
now.
C
B
C
B
C
C
We
knew
that
the
the
two
garages
at
7th
and
Morton
were
funded
by
Tiff
dollars
in
2001.
2003
here
was
a
district.
This
is
an
explicit
I'll.
Read
you
the
paragraph.
Although
there
are
three
parking
garages
available
to
downtown
residents
and
businesses,
additional
parking
is
needed
to
encourage
businesses
that
employ
larger
numbers
of
people
to
remain
or
relocate
to
downtown
and
the
cost
providing
this
infrastructure
are
high.
We
knew
that
it
was
expensive
to
maintain
structured
parking
here
we
had
to
maintain
this.
It
was
a
perfect
use
of
this
money.
B
This
you've
asked
me
I've,
told
you
I,
I,
guess
one
point
I
haven't
made
is
that
the
Creed
money,
particularly
now
as
we
know,
is
much
more
flexible
than
Tiff.
Money
can
be
used
for
other
kinds
of
things,
operating
expenses
and
others.
It's
still
one
time,
but
it's
more
flexible.
C
These
purposes
it
didn't
have
to
you're
focusing
unemployment
opportunities
it
could
have
been
used
for
it
could
have
been
used
to
help
fund.
The
the
Creed
District
includes
the
coroner
of
third
and
Lincoln,
where
we
had
a
big
utility
break
where
we
had
the
flood
of
the
fire
station.
The
fire
station
and
the
police
station,
as
they
are
now
are
not
in
the
Creed,
but
that
intersection
is,
could
some
of
that
money
not
have
been
used
to
fix?
C
That
I
mean
I
I,
just
I'm,
not
understanding
why
you
decided
you,
you
didn't
need
to
use
the
money
for
what
it
was
originally
collected
for.
B
I,
don't
know
that
I
can
explain
it
anymore,
other
than
that
we
looked
at
our
best
options.
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
probably
relevant,
and
if,
if
controller
Underwood
wants
to
step
in
it's
fine
for
me,
he
may
have
a
judgment
about
this
too
I
think
it's
appropriate
to
note
that
in
a
jurisdiction
like
Indiana
when
we're
a
second
class
City
there
are
we
often
look
at
ways.
How
do
we
maximize
our
ability
to
protect
our
fiscal
strength
and
also
do
things
that
the
state
won't?
Let
us
always
do
easily.
B
You
know
how
hard
it
is
to
raise
revenue.
You
know
how
hard
it
is
to
generate
that
with
our
own
decision,
so
we
do
have
to
pick
and
choose
among
different
options,
and
if
some
can
something
can
be
bonded
for
with
Tiff.
We
may
do
that,
but
I
certainly
appreciate
that
you
may
have
made
a
different
judgment
if
you
were
in
this
chair,
the.
C
Last
question
I
would
ask,
is
what
would
you
say
to
the
the
taxpayers,
especially
the
commercial
taxpayers,
of
the
Creed
District,
who
were
sold
this
idea
in
2003?
Here's?
Why
we're
doing
it
expecting
that
the
money
would
be
spent
in
their
district
and
now
come
to
find
that
almost
none
of
it
was
spent
in
their
district
and
that
now
a
significant
chunk
of
it?
More
than
half
the
money,
at
least
that
you're
proposing
now
will
be
spent
in
the
rest
of
the
city.
C
B
No,
no
one
of
you
paid
any
more
Diamond
taxes
than
you
would
have
through
this
whole
period,
and
the
state
would
have
taken
that
money
and
spent
it
in
Fort,
Wayne
or
Evansville,
or
prisons
or
Medicaid,
or
anything
the
state
wanted
to
spend
it
on.
Instead,
they
returned
it
to
us,
which
we
appreciated
as
a
city
with
the
opportunity
to
use
it
for
a
period
of
time
to
enhance
that
District,
which
we
did
as
needed
as
judged
by
my
predecessor
me,
but
we
didn't
feel
the
need
to
do
it
all.
C
Didn't
pay
extra
taxes
doesn't
mean
that
they
shouldn't
be
jealous
of
the
tax
dollars
that
have
come
back
to
them
for
specific
use
in
an
area
that
at
that
time,
and
even
now
could
still
use
investment
too.
I.
B
A
E
I
am
here,
thank
you.
I
have
three
I
think
quick
questions
mayor
Hamilton,
thank
you
for
your
increases
to
both
the
honoring,
our
requests
for
the
city
clerk
increase
and
for
the
increase
to
public
safety
personnel.
B
When
we
look
at
Chief
decoff
how
many
officers
would
be
the
new
new
probation,
the
new
probationary
officers,
that
would
be
directly
affected.
F
It
it
would
go
to
any
new
officer
that
is
hired.
They
would
all
start
out
as
probationary
officers.
So
we
currently
I
see
yeah.
F
F
Then
there's
there's
their
South,
their
salary
is
set
by
the
salary
ordinance,
and
so
the
probationary
officer
salary
is
budgeted
at
an
officer
first
class
salary.
So
we're
just
taking
that
money
and
applying
it
to
raise
that
probationary
salary
to
make
it
a
a
more
enticing
offer
to
a
new
recruit.
E
Okay,
got
it
all
right,
very
good.
My
second
question
is
the
salary
study
mayor
Hamilton.
You
said
that
it
includes
all
employees.
Does
that
include
electives.
B
No,
it
does
not
I
said
it
would
it
may
input.
It
may
give
us
some
input
that
would
affect
a
lot
of
employees.
It
does
not
a
study
of
elected
official
salaries,
nor
is
it
really
studying
labor
contract
Union
governed
employees,
it's
for
the
non
non-organized
labor
sector,
I'm.
B
E
Right
well,
I
would
have
included
elected
since
we
just
raised
an
elected
salary
that
being
the
clerk
okay.
My
my
last
question
is
regarding
the
the
feature
at
the
the
Gateway
feature
at
Miller
showers
and
I
was
going
to
reserve
this
to
director
McDevitt,
but
I
feel
it's
probably
a
false
to
your
discretion
more
than
hers.
E
My
concern
is
that
it
hasn't
been
properly
vetted.
The
Arts
commission,
to
my
understanding,
didn't,
have
didn't,
have
any
meaningful
input
in
the
project
and
it
seems
to
have
the
public
such
a
significant
feature.
I
think
really
deserves
to
be
more
thoroughly
vetted.
B
It
was
a
very
extensive
public
comment,
very
extensively
studied
and
commented
upon
by
scores
of
our
residents,
and
we
think
it's
a
great
addition
to
the
city
and
I
know
there
may
be
some
who
disagree,
but
we
feel
very
good
about
the
Prospect
and
it's
what
the
bonds
were
sold
for
to
be
used
for
and
and
we're
happy
to
continue
to
talk
about
that
with
you,
but
are
not
planning
a
pause
in
the
process.
It's
it's
well
underway.
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
Moralo,
any
additional
questions
for
the
mayor
and
seeing
none.
We
thank
you
very
much
for
the
introduction.
The
next
ordinances
will
be
presented,
salary
ordinances
will
be
presented
by
Emily
Fields
and
we
will
begin
with
the
first
one
ordinance
23-25
an
ordinance
to
fix
the
salaries
of
appointed
officers
non-union
and
ask
me
employees
for
all
the
Departments
of
the
city
of
Bloomington
for
the
year.
2024.
welcome.
G
G
As
a
reminder,
the
administration
is
budgeted
for
a
five
percent
increase
to
non-union
civil
City
salaries
and
those
covered
by
the
afscme
agreement
will
also
receive
a
five
percent
increase
rates
for
common
law
or
temporary
positions
has
have
also
been
adjusted
due
to
the
increase
in
the
living.
Wage
hourly
rate
currently
is
15.29
an
hour
and
it'll
go
to
a
1575
and
24
an
hour.
G
G
This
ordinance
increases
the
city's
Workforce
by
about
the
equivalent
of
31
40
hour
per
week.
Employees
changes
to
24,
non-temporary
or
regular
positions
are
reflected
in
this
ordinance,
along
with
several
changes
to
temporary
positions,
nine
of
those
regular
positions
are
considered
repurposed.
This
means
we
change
their
pay
grade
and
we
change
their
title.
Five
of
these
positions
received
a
pay
grade
change
only
and
about
10
or
10.
Actually,
positions
received
a
title
change.
G
H
Miss
Fields,
so
the
can
you
tell
me
more
about
the
500
bonus
for
each
employee.
That's
covered
under
this
ordinance.
Where
does
that
come
from?
What's
the
reasoning
this.
G
Year
we
gave
almost
all
employees
a
thousand
dollar
bonus,
just
as
a
as
a
response
to
Rising
inflation.
Other
pressures
with
retention
pay
different
different
economic
pressures
that
are
happening
for
our
employees
and
and
this
year
we
wanted
to
sustain
some
of
that
or
I'm.
Sorry
in
2024.
We
wanted
to
sustain
some
of
that
additional
pay.
G
A
Any
other
questions
and
seeing
none
from
Council
we
will
go
to
the
public
to
see
if
there's
any
comment
and
I
will
note
that
all
public
comment
this
evening
will
constitute
the
statutorily
required
public
hearing
on
the
city
budget
for
2024.
So
if
we
can
put
the
appeal
out
to
the
public
on
Zoom,
anyone
here
in
Chambers
like
to
take
the
podium
and
make
a
comment
about
this
particular
salary,
ordinance.
I
J
I
appreciate
what
you've
shared
about
bonuses
and
dollars
that
are
used
for
Recruitment
and
Retention.
Could
you-
and
this
is
a
a
broader
question
than
just
this
particular
ordinance,
but
can
you
share
what
you
we
are
doing
to
track?
The
success
of
those
of
those
bonuses
is
Recruitment
and
Retention.
Efforts
for
those
salary
increases
is
Recruitment
and
Retention
efforts.
G
That
is
a
great
question.
I
would
say
we
do
offer
exit
interviews,
and
that
was
one
of
the
questions
that
I
responded
to
and
when
a
city
council's
questions
we
do
see
sometimes
from
those
exit
interviews
that
people
are,
you
know
seeking
jobs
because
of
pay
or
because
of
promotion,
so
we
would
hope
to
see
a
decrease
in
those
sorts
of
responses.
However,
we
don't
have
the
best
of
luck
with
a
response
rate
on
those
surveys.
G
Our
recruitment
we've
discussed
the
recruitment
costs
in
HR
and
our
recruiter
who's
spending
time
going
to
job
fairs
and
doing
other
recruitment
activities.
How
we
are
keeping
a
lot
of
data
on
those
activities
to
try
to
tie
that
to
results
and
see.
What's
effective
and
what's
not,
I
will
think
about
your
question
and
it's
a
very
good
one
and
a
very
good
suggestion.
H
G
K
D
A
H
Yes,
may
I
just
issue
a
point
of
information,
certainly
I'm,
just
to
clarify
for
the
audience
or
anybody
who
may
be
listening.
So
the
votes
that
we
take
tonight
are
not
binding.
They
are
just
a
recommendation
to
ourselves
when
we
meet
on
October
11th
for
the
actual
final
vote,
so
just
to
clarify
that.
G
Reordinates
23-26
that
sets
the
maximum
2024
salary
rates
for
city
of
Bloomington
elected
officials,
which
include
the
mayor
city,
council,
members
and
the
city
clerk
maximum
salaries
for
the
mayor
and
council
members
represent
a
five
percent
increase.
The
clerk
salary
represents
a
34
percent
increase
and
is
set
at
the
request
of
council
consistent
with
the
current
ordinance
ordinance.
G
A
C
Against
this
ordinance,
because
I
believe
that
the
Council
made
a
mistake
in
not
elevating
the
clerk
to
the
equivalent
of
a
department
head
the
while
it
is
true
that
the
clerk's
office
and
the
Council
Office
have
are
separately
elected
and
have
separate
policies,
both
offices
must
request
their
budgets
from
the
mayor
who
makes
the
budget
for
the
administration
and
I
think
this
is
a
mistake
and
So
based
on
the
con
on
the
debate
we
had
over
this
prior
I
will
not
be
supporting
this
ordinance
and
I'll
be
looking
to
bring
an
amendment
to
make
that
change
to
the
clerk's
budget
to
the
clerk's
Salary.
D
Well,
I
share
the
I,
guess,
reasoning
of
council
member
Molin
or
share
the
the
preference
with
respect
to
the
clerk's
salary.
I'll
still
be
supporting
recommending
a
positive
recommendation
on
this
tonight.
I
feel
like
absent
new
information.
Otherwise
we
already
had
this
Collective
conversation
as
a
council
and
settled
where
we
landed,
and
so
while
I
would
like
the
the
salary
to
be
higher
and
More
in
line
with
other
department
heads.
This
is
still
I
think
a
step
forward
and
a
good
one.
A
H
C
L
C
A
Right
and
that
passes
eight
two
one
thank
you,
and
next
we
have
ordinance
23-24.
This
is
the
ordinance
fixing
the
salaries
of
officers
of
the
police
fire
department
for
the
city
of
Bloomington
for
the
year
2024
and
I
do
believe
we
have
an
amendment.
Do
we
want
to
raise
that
now
or
wait
till
after
the
presentation?
G
As
stated,
this
is
ordinance
2324,
outlining
the
2024
salaries
for
officers
for
the
police
and
fire
departments.
This
ordinance
also
includes
compensation
for
longevity,
Education,
certification
and
other
qualifications
defined
by
and
provided
for
in
the
respective
collective
bargaining
agreements,
salaries
for
fire
captains,
chauffeurs
and
firefighters.
First
class
are
listed
according
to
the
salaries
outline
in
their
contract
between
the
Bloomington,
the
city
of
Bloomington.
Excuse
me
and
the
Bloomington
Metropolitan,
firefighters,
local
586,
and
these
salaries
represent
a
two
percent
increase.
G
The
fiscal
impact
of
the
new
position,
the
assistant
chief
of
operations,
is
a
hundred
and
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
in
section
1B
under
the
table
that
is
titled
as
other.
There
were
positions
listed
that
are
eligible
for
on-call
pay.
The
titles
of
those
positions
were
changed
in
the
past,
but
hadn't
been
changed
there.
So
there's
a
correction
in
this
ordinance
and
because
it
was
just
a
temporary
measure
to
assist
with
Staffing
concerns
the
Kelly
day
buy
back
benefit
that
is
in
the
current
ordinance,
as
amended
has
been
removed
from
the
2024
ordinance.
G
The
retention
bonus
awarding
certain
firefighters
for
work
performed
during
kova
19
pandemic
has
been
modified
and
increased
in
section
1f
retention.
Pay
excuse
me,
salaries
for
officers.
First
class
and
Senior
police
officers
are
set
in
accordance
with
the
negotiations
between
the
city
and
the
Fraternal
Order
of
Police
Lodge,
88
and
rep,
and
represent
a
2.8
percent
increase
supervisory
Sergeant.
Pay
will
increase
by
the
same
percentage
as
pay
for
senior
police
officers.
2.8
percent
and
the
other
police
Personnel
listed
will
receive
a
five
percent
pay
increase.
G
A
I
will
start
with
a
question
about
these
retention
bonuses.
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
efforts
being
placed
on
the
recruiting
side
of
things
with
this
I
guess
this
will
be
the
amendment.
Is
this
the
amendment
coming
up
or
not?
That's
has
to
do
with
fire
right.
A
Yes,
okay,
with
these
additional
bonuses
for
re
recruits
new
recruits.
Are
there
any
concerns
about
wage
compression
with?
Because
we've
got
two
problems
right?
We
have
the
recruiting
problem,
but
we
also
have
a
retention
problem
and
so
sometimes
you
go
and
tweak
one
and
you're
going
to
cause
issues
down
the
road
for
another.
Do
you
get
my
the
gist
of
my
question?
Has
there
been
any
conversation
about
the
wage
compression
issues
that
we
may
have
with?
A
You
know
some
of
the
newer
recruits,
starting
at
some
pretty
much
better
salaries,
but
then
some
of
the
officers
that
have
been
on
the
job
for
a
while
will
start
to
feel
that
they're
not
making
quite
as
much
as
the
new
recruits.
G
G
So,
for
example,
officer
first
class
pay
is
sixty
eight
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
four
dollars
and
the
probationary
officer
starting
pay
next
year
will
be
63,
800
or
683.45.
Those
officers
first
class
also
get
a
bunch
of
certification,
pay
and
and
benefits
of
the
contracts.
The
extra
pay
that
that
might
be
available
in
their
collective
bargaining
agreement
and.
A
That
new
recruit
does
that
include
the
the
five
thousand
dollar
bonus
thousand
dollars.
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
Additional
questions
from
Council
council
member
Piedmont,
Smith.
H
Yes,
Ms
Fields.
Could
you
tell
me
where
the
change
where
in
the
ordinance
is
the
change
for
the
police
officers,
probationary
pay.
G
G
H
H
G
G
And
the
five
thousand
dollar
increase
was
added
after
the
publish
publishing
of
this
salary
ordinance,
but
it
still
Falls
within
that
range,
so
the
starting
pay
for
a
non-certified
officer
would
be
sixty
three
thousand
six
hundred
and
eighty
three
and
then
a
certified
officer
would
be
sixty
eight
thousand
one.
Eighty
four.
H
Okay,
yeah:
it's
it's
strange
because
the
the
heading
of
that
table
is
grade
or
maximum
base
salary,
and
so
the
maximum
base
salary
is
now
a
range
which
doesn't
make
much
sense.
H
M
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
the
report.
Miss
Fields,
when
you
say
certified
officers
specifically
with
police
officers.
Are
we
talking
about
Academy
of
them
graduating
from
the
academy?
Is
that
one
of
the
certifications?
Yes.
F
F
M
H
Mrs
Fields
for
the
education
portion
of
the
compensation
for
police
is,
is
that
per
year,
so,
if
somebody
has
a
four-year
degree,
they
get
twelve
hundred
dollars
additional
per
year.
Correct
okay
are
all
of
the
like
the
longevity
and
all
that
that's
also
per
year.
Correct.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I
will
coming
around
stun
the
invitation
to
the
folks
online
if
you'd
like
to
speak
to
this
item,
please
let
us
know
by
raising
your
hand
or
sending
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host,
see
one
hand
graced
Eric
spoonmore.
A
Ordinances
as
a
as
it
was
presented
before
the
ordinance
now
at
this
point.
If,
since
we
have
one
commenter
who
actually
wants
to
comment
on
the
amendment,
if
we
can
maybe
hold
on
public
comment
and
go
ahead
and
deal
with
the
amendment,
if
you
would
like
to
introduce
that
at
this
point,
councilmember
Piedmont
Smith.
H
Yes,
thank
you.
I
would
like
to
move
Amendment
one
to
ordinance,
23,
24.,
second
and
I.
Don't
know
somebody
from
the
administration
would
like
to
speak
to
this,
but
this
is
increasing
the
retention
pay
of
firefighters
in
firefighters,
first
class,
chauffeurs
and
captains
significantly
to
try
to
help
the
retention
problems
within
the
fire
department.
Ms
Fields.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
it?
H
H
N
So
with
that
we're
here
today-
and
we
say
thanks
so
we
will-
we
want
to
thank
you
guys,
the
current
city
council
and
this
to
support
this
amendment
to
put
us
closer
within
our
County
peers,
thanks
to
Chief
Moore
John
Hamilton,
for
meeting
with
us
and
working
to
make
this
a
better
change
as
the
landscape
changes
in
the
fire
service.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
the
next
city,
council
and
mayor
when
it
comes
to
compensation
and
benefits,
as
we
look
to
negotiate
our
contract
in
2024..
N
A
K
H
Well,
I
would
just
like
to
commend
everybody
who
was
involved
in
making
this
amendment
possible
to
increase
the
retention.
Pay
I
know
that
the
Mr
Canada
and
the
fire
Union
have
been
advocating
and
kind
of
pointing
out
to
council
members
for
many
months
now
that
there's
a
retention
problem
among
the
fire
department
and
so
I'm
grateful
that
Chief
Moore
was
able
to
meet
with
them
and
meet
with
the
administration
and
reshuffle
things
so
that
we
could
increase
this
retention
pay
and
hopefully
we
will
keep
our
experienced
fire
department
officers
and
this
would
be
a
good.
H
A
You
any
additional
comment
from
Council
and
I
will
just
say
again.
Thank
you
to
Mr
Canada
and
everyone
working
on
this,
and
the
reminder
that
this
is
a
good
first
step
and
I
will
encourage
future
administrations
to
continue
the
effort
to
make
sure
that
we
have
competitive
salaries
for
our
front
line.
Workers
and
all
across
the
board
and
again
step
in
the
right
direction
is
probably
a
good
way
to
describe
this
amendment.
So
anyone
else
have
another
comment
before
we
asked
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
on
the
recommendation
for
the
amendment.
E
A
All
right
that
Amendment
passes
9-0,
so
that
will
be
again
considered
at
the
next
budget
hearing.
We
move
now
back
to
the
ordinance
as
amended,
and
we
were
to
the
point
of
listening
for
public
comment.
So
again.
Anyone
wanting
to
make
a
public
comment
about
the
ordinance
as
amended,
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand
on
zoom,
and
then
we
have
one
member
of
the
public
here
in
Chambers.
O
Good
evening,
council
members,
Paul
Post
president
fop
Lodge
88
first
I
just
want
to
make
a
note
before
I
forget
about
it.
The
certified
officers
that
we
were
talking
about
lateral,
hires,
that's
what
we
desperately
need
in
Plainfield
next
year,
they'll
start
nine
thousand
dollars
more
than
a
officer
here.
Will
nine
thousand
dollars
just
bear
that
in
mind
in
light
of
Mayor
Hamilton's
announcement
tonight,
increasing
probationary
officer
pay
by
five
thousand
dollars?
We
say
thank
you
for
that.
O
Will
that
help
us
Recruit
new
officers
next
year
we
don't
know
BPD
remains
20,
plus
officers
short
and
underpaid
compared
to
our
peers.
Well,
we
do
know
that
this
gesture
will
do.
Is
it
will?
It
will
create
further
wage
compression
to
the
officer
first
class
and
our
senior
police
officer
pay
grades
while
a
possible
positive
for
recruiting
brand
new
untrained
officers?
It
does
not
help
us
in
retention.
O
What
we
would
like
to
see
is
further
action
regarding
affecting
retention
of
your
existing
officers,
aggressively
recruiting
already
certified
lateral
hires
hiring
brand
new
officers
will
not
help
Manpower
for
almost
two
years.
That's
how
long
it
will
take
to
wait
on
the
academy
get
them
through
the
academy,
train
them,
bring
them
back
to
us
to
train
some
more
and
get
that
help
on
the
street.
O
Hiring
a
certified
officer
will
let
us
fill
a
numerous
open
positions,
much
faster.
At
the
same
time,
we
cannot
continue
to
lose
our
good
officers
to
other
agencies
who
pay
more
similar
to
retention
efforts
with
the
fire
department.
We
would
like
to
see
the
percentage
increase
for
all
officers
increase
to
five
percent
next
year.
O
This
would
help
bring
BPD
in
line
with
the
rest
of
the
city.
It
will
be
a
direct
gesture
to
your
officers,
who
are
currently
doing
20
percent
more
work
than
they
need
to
be
due
to
our
large
Manpower
shortages.
Finally,
we
do
not
agree
with
using
monies
meant
for
sworn
officer
salaries
to
temporarily
fund
civilian
positions.
P
K
P
The
greater
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce
we're
an
independent
non-profit
organization
and
we're
not
affiliated
with
the
Indiana
State
Chamber
of
Commerce
or
the
U.S
Chamber
of
Commerce,
and
we
represent
over
680
local
small
businesses.
Many
of
the
businesses
we
all
know
and
love
that
make
Bloomington
such
a
wonderful,
caring
and
compassionate
Community.
P
We
also
have
numerous
members
that
are
local
non-profit
organizations,
including
Beacon
wheeler,
Mission,
United,
Way
and
New
Hope,
shelter,
just
to
name
a
few
particularly
proud
to
have
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
Monroe
County
government
as
partnering
members
of
our
local
chamber
as
well.
At
a
high
level.
Our
goal
at
the
chamber
is
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
the
greater
Bloomington
Community
through
a
thriving
business
environment
that
will
generate
the
resources
necessary
to
make
Bloomington
the
best
possible
Community
for
people
to
live,
work
visit
and
have
fun.
P
I
think
these
are
probably
goals
that
the
city
council
and
the
Chamber
share
together,
and
so
we
appreciate
that
I
also
appreciate
all
the
work
and
the
liberations
that
you
put
into
the
budget
formulation
process.
There's
a
lot
in
this
budget
that
I'd
like
to
talk
about,
but
I
have
limited
time
so
I'll
just
touch
on
one
area
and
that
concerns
funding
for
Public
Safety
and
some
of
the
positions
in
the
Bloomington
Police
Department
I
think
we
all
want
Bloomington
to
be
a
community
where
people.
D
P
Safe
and
are
safe-
and
you
may
recall
a
few
weeks
ago
during
public
comment,
I
pose
a
question
to
the
council
and
asked
what
the
goal
is
for
Public
Safety
and
if
you
don't
remember,
it's
understandable
I
only
had
two
minutes
to
speak,
so
I
get
that
anyway.
P
My
friend
council
member
Flaherty's
response
to
that
question
was
that
his
goal
is
Public,
Safety
and
Security
for
all
and
I
think
that's
a
goal
that
was
stated
in
the
Caps
report
as
well
and
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
broad
but
very
good
General
goal
for
the
city
to
have
Public,
Safety
and
Security
for
all.
So,
yes,
we
think
that's
a
great
start,
but
then
last
month
we
also
heard
a
representative
from
the
Caps
commission
report
to
the
city
council.
The
violent
crime
has
increased
by
24
percent
in
our
city
since
2016..
P
We
urge
the
city
and
the
city
council
to
do
everything
within
its
power
to
fully
staff
the
number
of
police
officer
positions
that
are
funded
by
this
budget
for
our
great
Khalia
certified
police
department
and
in
parallel
we
should
also
invest
much
more
than
what's
in
this
Budget
on
other
non-police
mechanisms.
They
can
meaningfully
curb.
The
violent
crime
in
Bloomington
has
been
trending
upward,
so.
A
C
I
keep
going
back
to
this
moment
19
years
ago,
when
it
was
my
first
year
in
mayor
kruzan's
first
year,
and
at
that
time
we
had
84
sworn
officers
that
we
were
funding
and
in
that
year
mayor
kruzan
declared
that
he
was
going
to
increase
the
police
force
to
100
officers
within
eight
years
to
a
year
on
average
and
that
that
was
at
the
time
in
an
era
when
there
wasn't
quite
as
much
controversy
about
policing
or
the
market
for
police
officers,
the
city
was
able
to
achieve
that,
but
growth
at
two
net
officers
a
year
was
non-trivial
it
it
the
city
achieved
it,
but
it
I
don't
think
they
could
have
grown
any
faster
than
that,
and
so
we
fast
forward
to
20
years
later,
and
the
market
is
very,
very
different
for
police
officers
and
we
have
84
officers
on
duty
and
105
lines
that
we're
funding
I've,
never
really
understood
what
good
it
is
to
revert.
C
C
I
I
certainly
understand
the
different
concerns
that
Rank
and
file
officers
have
about
it,
but
I
would
rather
see
10
of
those
positions,
go
to
increasing
the
salaries
of
everyone
or
used
accordingly
to
retain
officers
than
to
keep
funding
positions
that
aren't
going
to
get
filled
next
year,
they're
not
going
to
get
filled
next
year.
There's
no
way
that
I
mean
we
know
that
there's
a
crunch
for
the
demand
for
off
for
officer
pay
is
higher
elsewhere.
C
Why
are
we
funding
those
positions?
If
it's
the
police
Union
is
worried
about
the
signal
that
it
sends
that
somehow
we're
not
funding
enough
officers,
I
mean
I
would
say
we're
trying
to
to
do
it.
We
would
be
doing
it
in
order
to
increase
officers
to
reduce
their
workload.
It
would
take
the
new
mayor
and
the
new
Council
to
make
some
kind
of
a
declaration
as
to
at
what
rate
they're
going
to
try
to
grow
the
force.
C
It's
certainly
Beyond
this
Council
or
this
mayor
of
this
budget,
but
it
clearly
is
time
for
a
new
commitment
to
be
made
to
it,
but
at
the
very
least,
we
should
be
thinking
about
using
that
money
to
pay
existing
officers
better
we've.
We
can't
have
all
three
things.
We
can
have
two
out
of
three
things.
We
can
have
everyone
better
paid.
C
We
can
have
more
officers,
we
can
have
empty
line
items
I,
don't
know
I
I,
it's
still
a
conundrum
that
no
one
has
explained
to
me
and
I
wish
that
both
parties,
the
administration
and
the
police
Union,
would
consider
it.
Having
said
that,
I'm
going
to
support
this
ordinance.
Thank
you.
Thank.
E
Yes,
thanks
well,
council
member
volun
made
the
point
that
I
wanted
to
make,
and
he
actually
said
it
quite
well
very
well,
and
indeed
I
I,
wouldn't
renig
on
the
the
number
of
105
has
the
optimum
as
the
number
of
officers
that
we
should
have,
but
it
is
frustrating
that
we
see
the
the
reversions
every
year
without
an
increase
in
the
actual
number
of
police
officers
and
clearly
this
is
what
we're
doing
tonight
or
what
we're
recommending
that
we
do
tonight
is
an
improvement,
but
it
it's
not
enough,
as
was
described
by
Officer,
post
and
Mr
swimwear,
so
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
remain
competitive
with
other
communities,
we're
losing
valuable
personnel.
E
We
continue
being
understaffed
and
you
know
we
keep
suffering
this
nutrition
problem
and
it's
very
worrisome
to
me
because
of
morale
because
of
stress
and
it's
it's
a
hazardous
position
to
be
in
to
be
an
officer
and
we
can't
afford
to
have
people
working
overtime
force
over
time.
So
I
agree
with
councilmember
volan
I
I'd
like
to
continue
working
on
this.
Clearly
we
have
our
work
cut
out
for
us,
but
I.
E
Don't
think
we
have
any
choice
but
to
look
at
greater
compensation,
so
I
want
to
continue
that
conversation
next
year,
but
I'll
be
voting
yes
on
this
thanks.
E
M
Thank
you,
and
thanks
for
the
comments
and
I'll
be
supporting
this
ordinance
as
well.
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
yes,
ordinance
as
well
a
couple
of
things
earlier
on.
We
were
talking
about
how
do
we
track
and
collect
data
on
some
of
the
results
that
we're
seeking,
yeah
and
I'd?
Let
me
say
this
too:
I
do
agree
with
with
my
Council
colleagues
or
councilman
Rollo
and
councilmember
Bolin,
but
to
make
a
blanket
statement.
I
think,
there's
some
other
considerations.
Moving
forward
for.
P
M
Example,
if
we
use
the
budgeted
funds
to
increase
the
salary
of
those
that
we
have
currently
and
that
that
is
one
option,
but
if
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
do
get
the
officers
to
meet
the
budgeted
amount,
then,
where
how
do
we
fund
that
moving
forward?
Do
we
prioritize
and
redistribute
funding
within
the
overall
budget?
M
Do
we
consider
a
increase
in
a
revenue
stream
and
that's
one
of
my
concerns
moving
forward
even
with
the
next
Council,
the
next
Administration,
as
I,
ultimately
to
raise
revenues?
Dreams
is
still
going
to
have
an
adverse
effect
on
a
larger
portion
of
our
community.
So.
M
To
do
it's
just
a
reason
to
keep
those
concerns
to
the
Forefront
and
when
I
talk
about
data
earlier
Mr
post
was
speaking
and
and
I
really
appreciate
him,
communicating
with
us
over
the
course
of
months
and
that
sort
of
thing.
But
the.
M
Will
this
funding
that
we're
talking
about
or
increases
help
with
recruiting
and
the
answer
was
we
don't
know,
and
then
the
statement
I
also
think
that
he
made,
if
I
heard
correctly,
that
this
does
not
help
with
retention
and
I.
Don't
disagree
with
either
of
those
statements.
M
I
just
think
it
points
to
how
important
it
is
to
somehow
track
those
results
along
the
way
to
make
sure
or
at
least
to
have
an
idea
of
or
if
our
investments
are
getting,
the
results
that
we're
hoping
they
will
be
if
we're
20
officers
short
and
I
understand
some
of
those
are
pay
issues,
but.
K
M
It
is
re
retiring
officers
that
we've
not
been
able
to
replace,
which
may
or
may
not
be
a
salary
issue,
so
I
just
think
better
data,
better
tracking,
through
exit
interviews
through
HR.
These
sorts
of
things
is
in
order
and
I
would
strongly
suggest
that
we
consider
that
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
C
To
respond
to
my
esteemed
colleague,
I
would
rather
have
10
more
officers
who
are
well
trained
to
our
high
standards,
retained
than
20
positions
continuing
to
go
unfilled
if
it
means
that
we
simply
reduce
those
positions
that
we
could
never
fill
anyway,
we
haven't
been
able
to
fill
for
years,
and
it
means
that
we
have
95
fully
funded
active
officers
who
want
to
stay.
Then,
let's
do
that.
That
was
my
point.
C
A
Anyone
else
I
I
will
just
thank
my
colleagues
for
their
thoughtful
final
comments
here.
I
have
been
concerned
about
this
issue
for
a
number
of
years.
Now
ever
since
we
have
been
discussing
this
with
our
Rank
and
file
with
our
officers
who
are
working
overtime,
we're
spending
quite
a
bit
of
money
on
overtime
because
we
are
so
short
staffed.
We
have
officers
who
are
exhausted.
We
have
officers
who
are
in
addition
to
not
being
competitive
in
terms
of
salaries
that
other
places
are
now
starting
to
offer.
A
They
are
just
looking
for
other
communities
where
maybe
the
working
conditions
will
be
less
stressful
than
they
are
here,
and
so
I
have
characterized
this
as
a
crisis
and
I
think
for
many
of
us
it
still
is,
and
while
I
won't
be
around
next
year
in
order
to
work
on,
how
do
we
get
to
the
Crux?
How
do
we
get
to
the
actual
root
of
the
problem?
Why
we're
losing
officers
well-trained
officers,
good
Personnel,
to
other
communities
who
are
getting
it,
who
are
doing
a
better
job
than
we
are
on
both
fronts?
A
The
retention
and
the
re-recruiting
of
a
good,
well-trained
officers
that
this
community
deserves,
and
so
tonight
I
will
be
abstaining
just
in
principle,
because
I
have
no
solutions
to
offer
this
year,
but
I
have
characterized
what
we're
doing
as
kind
of
working
around
the
edges.
We're
doing
little
things
here
and
little
things
there
and
we're
always
grateful
for
the
movement
in
what
I
said
tonight,
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
But
it's
not
the
ultimate
answer,
we're
missing
the
mark
and
the
community
is
going
to
suffer
as
a
result.
A
If
future
Minds
don't
get
it
together
with
respect
to
our
salaries,
our
competitiveness
and
things
that
actually
are
measurable
in
terms
of
Are
We.
Solving
this
problem
are
we
getting
our
police
force
up
to
the
numbers
that
we
require
in
order
to
keep
this
community
safe,
I
hear
from
a
number
of
people
in
the
community
about
the
police
are
not
as
responsive
as
they
used
to
be,
and
you
know
is:
is
it
because
they're
not
well
trained
and
professional,
or
is
it
because
they're
short,
staffed
and
I
would
say
it
is
the
latter?
A
P
L
C
D
A
Thank
you
and
that
passes
eight
zero
one.
We
are
now
moving
on.
Thank
you,
Miss
fields.
We
appreciate
your
presentations,
we're
moving
on
to
appropriation,
ordinance,
23-06,
an
ordinance
adopting
a
budget
for
the
operation,
maintenance,
Debt,
Service
and
Capital
Improvements
for
the
water
and
wastewater
utility
Departments
of
the
city
of
Bloomington,
for
the
year
2024
and
with
us
to
present
Mr
Vic
Kelson.
Q
Good
evening,
I'm
Vic
Kelson
utilities
director
just
a
couple
of
comments
at
the
hearing
on
the
29th,
there
were
some
errors
in
the
tables.
They've
now
been
corrected
and
verified
by
the
controller's
office.
We
do
apologize
for
that.
That
error
I
would
also
like
to
comment
briefly
about
the
question.
That's
come
up
a
couple
of
times
regarding
whether
our
efforts
for
recruitment
or
retention
are
actually
working.
Q
At
this
point.
In
2022
we
were
somewhere
between
15
and
20
staff,
members
short
in
our
transmission
and
distribution
garage.
Those
are
the
people
who
are
out
there,
responding
to
water
main
breaks,
they're
laying
water
mains,
they're,
repairing
services
and
all
that
kind
of
work.
This
is
a
lot
of
outdoor
work,
excavations
working
in
in
dangerous
settings
and
lots
of
times
there
are
First
Responders.
Q
As
we
call
it
I'm
happy
to
say
that,
as
of
the
end
of
August,
we've
filled
all
of
those
positions.
So
we
are
now
fully
staffed
in
the
garage.
So
at
least
we
were,
we
were
successful
in
our
efforts
to
improve
Recruitment
and
Retention
at
that
in
that
part
of
our
department
and
I
want
to
thank
everybody.
Our
Union
Representatives,
Union
leadership,
the
HR
department,
the
legal
department
and
the
mayor
for
his
support
and
the
council
for
their
support
in
that
effort
as
well.
I
A
Q
Q
It'll,
take
probably
about
three
or
four
months
for
us
to
assemble
the
request.
I
would
have
to
go
to
boarding
Council,
so
I
would
anticipate
we'd
be
before
Council
sometime
in
the
first
half
of
the
year,
and
then
it
goes
to
the
Indiana
utilities,
Regulatory
Commission
and
from
there
it
can
take
anywhere
from
three
to
nine
months.
C
A
A
A
And
seeing
no
questions
from
Council,
we
will
go
to
public
and
I
will
note
that
this
public
comment
portion
will
constitute
the
statutorily
required
public
hearing
on
the
transit
budget
for
2024.
So
if
you
want
to
make
that
appeal
to
the
zoom
public,
anyone
here
from
chambers
wish
to
make
a
comment.
A
C
M
A
Someone
is
out
of
the
room
so
that
passes
eight
zero
zero.
Thank
you.
The
last
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening
is
appropriation
ordinance,
2305,
an
ordinance
for
the
appropriation
and
tax
rates
establishing
in
the
2024
civil
City
budget
for
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
Mr
Underwood
Europe.
S
Underwood
City
controller,
thanks
again
to
all
my
fellow
department
heads
the
mayor's
office,
especially
my
staff,
Jackie
Miller
and
Cheryl
Gilliland
and
Julie
long
and
others
that
have
been
worked,
many
many
hours
to
bring
you
this
information,
I
I'm,
going
to
be
brief.
The
mayor
has
covered
most
of
of
what
we
have
to
say
tonight,
but
just
some
highlights
to
say
that
we
now
move
from
the
program
budgets
that
were
presented
in
August
to
the
state
mandated
forms.
S
As
noted,
this
meeting
serves
as
a
public
hearing
for
the
budget.
The
budget
was
duly
advertised
on
the
state's
Gateway
site,
which
sets
the
maximum
budgets
for
each
form
of
each
fund,
and
that
was
on
form
three.
It
also
creates
appropriation,
ordinance
2305
for
your
Council
review
and
action
that
covers
a
total
of
37
funds
that
again
sets
the
maximum
amount
on
that.
As
the
mayor
noted,
the
revised
total
budget,
excluding
utilities
and
Transit,
is
just
over
150
million
dollars
in
increases
slightly
more
than
21
million
dollars
or
16.4
percent.
S
This
budget
continues
to
maintain
good
reserves
in
our
general
fund,
which
is
a
combination
of
the
general
fund
and
the
rainy
day
fund,
we're
projecting
by
the
end
of
2024
that
that
amount
will
be
39.2
percent
and
the
target
being
33.
As
noted,
we
have
refunds
that
got
changed.
The
general
fund
had
increased
of
just
over
12
million
dollars,
which
was
the
five
percent
Cola
for
Council
Members,
the
adjustment
in
the
clerk's
salary,
a
slight
adjustment
in
the
tax
caps
and
the
Creed
expenditures
as
they
are
covered.
S
We
did
then
add
7.7,
7.275
million
dollars
to
the
American
Rescue
plan,
act
or
arpa
fund,
and
then
one
change
in
the
digital
Equity
Fund
increasing
that
position
from
part-time
to
full-time.
Those
are
the
changes
in
the
budget.
My
fellow
department
heads
are
here
with
me
tonight
as
as
well
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have
on
this
budget
and
thank
you
for
its
consideration
and
hopeful
for
its
approval.
H
So
I
guess
I
have
a
general
question,
so
I'm
not
sure
who
could
answer
it,
but
overall
in
this
budget,
which
of
course
includes
police
and
fire
departments.
What
and
Community
Family
Resources
and
others.
H
H
B
Within
the
public
safety
Departments,
of
course,
we
have
substantial
new
investments
in
in
paramedic
from
the
fire
department
in
non-sworn,
downtown
focused
boots
on
the
ground
to
help
provide
assistance
and
eyes
and
and
ears
and
referrals
with
the
five
new
FTE
community
service
specialists.
They
may
be
a
mix
of
part-time
as
well.
We
have
a
new
after
hours,
Ambassador
new
position
in
the
department.
We
have
a
million
dollars
for
public
health
investment
proposed
as
a
one-time
investment.
B
B
Clearly
accredited
number
one
ISO.
We
also
have
very
very
Progressive
and
evolving
approaches
to
Public,
Safety
and
I.
Think
that
that's
Incorporated
in
what
we're
doing
the
9-1-1
Pilots,
where
we're
going
to
be
responding.
I,
don't
know
if
you
saw
a
big
article
about
Indianapolis
today
doing
that
and
some
of
the
data
from
there
so
investing
in
different
responses
to
emergencies
in
our
community.
So
I
think
there's
a
huge
number
of
Investments
that
are
that
are
broadly
Public
Safety.
Besides
just
the
sworn
officer
course.
H
Thank
you,
I
have
a
related
question,
but
but
more
specific,
and
so
it
might
be
for
chief
decoff
I
know
that
traditionally
the
downtown
resource
officers
have
been
volunteers
from
among
the
sworn
officer
pool,
but
I
last
time,
I
I
checked.
H
There
was
only
one
downtown
resource
officer
and
I
know
that
this
in
August
the
mayor
did
say
that
there
were
going
to
be
some
non-sworn
officers
teamed
up
with
dros,
but
I
would
like
to
to
hear
whether
some
sworn
officers
might
be
assigned
to
be
dros
or
how
we
can
increase
that
number,
because
I
think
they
were
quite
effective.
Yes,.
F
What
we've
done
with
our
Dro
program
is:
we've
opened
it
up
to
part-time
position,
part-time
dros,
and
so
we
have
got
I
think
two
or
three.
Currently
that
are
doing
the
the
work
of
the
Darrow
part-time.
One
of
those
officers
has
a
master's
in
social
work,
so
we're
we're
thinking
of
different
ways
to
do
that.
F
One
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
do
with
the
increase
in
the
community
service
positions
downtown
is
look
at
hiring
Outreach
workers
from
Centerstone
to
assist
in
our
efforts
downtown
to
try
to
to
address
a
lot
of
the
problems
we've
got
going
on
down
there.
F
No,
that's:
we
would
hire
them
part-time
as
city
employees,
with
what
we
were
talking
about
doing
with
the
increase
in
the
five
ftes
for
the
down
or
the
community
outreach
people,
community
service,
specialist,
okay,.
B
B
Several
have
moved
into
full-time
employment,
and
that
program,
which
is
one
of
the
programs
that
we
do
I
think
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
has
a
major
long-term
effect
on
public
well-being
and
and
safety
and
I'm,
really
proud
of
parks
and
public
works.
And
what
they've
done
with
that
and
we're
continuing
to
invest
more.
We
we're
doing
nearly
half
a
million
dollars
a
year
out
of
the
general
fund,
for
that
which
you
have
supported
and
I
think
we
asked
the
state.
B
A
I
A
C
Yeah,
thank
you
well,
I
think
everyone
knows
by
now
my
concern
over
Creed
money.
I
disagree
strongly
with
the
mayor
about
his
reading
of
how
that
money
should
have
been
used.
It's
been
my
experience
that
every
other
council
member
has
at
one
point,
claimed
the
downtown
as
their
neighborhood.
Everyone
sees
the
downtown
as
their
neighborhood
I
actually
represent
the
downtown
as
a
neighborhood,
and
so
what
to
recognize
that
there
is
a
tax
District
that
is
entirely
within
District
Six.
That
is
specifically
meant
to
to
endure
to
the
benefit
of
that
District.
C
There's
a
tax
that's
been
made
for
its
benefit.
I.
Think
people
can
understand
why
I
might
be
jealous
of
it,
but
I
would
caution
everyone
before
they
approve
the
partial,
the
portion
of
the
budget
that
uses
Creed
money
which,
by
the
way
the
administration
was
unable
to
separate
enough
to
be
able
to
identify
which
dollars
would
be
spent
in
the
Creed
district
and
which
ones
wouldn't
be
again
because
they're
the
mayor's
expansive
reading
of
this
is,
we
should
be
able
to
it's.
The
district
is
expired.
C
We
should
be
able
to
use
it
for
whatever
that's
what
state
law
says,
but
I'm
going
to
read
from
the
whereas
clause
and
let's
see
it
was
resolution
0326
which
created
the
downtown,
create
it
said,
whereas
within
a
Creed,
certain
Special
Economic
Development
tools
are
available,
including
tax
credits
for
qualified
investors
in
the
Creed
deposit
of
certain
tax
revenues
in
the
Industrial
Development
Fund,
for
the
incentives
for
redevelopment
in
the
Creed
and
bonding
ability.
C
The
Assumption
was
always
that
this
money
should
be
spent
in
the
district
where
it
was
taken
from,
but
the
administration
didn't
use
the
Special
Economic
Development
tools.
There
were
a
variety
of
tools
they
could
have
used
in
my
mind.
They
should
have
spent
this
money
down
to
zero
in
the
the
Creed
District,
but
instead
they
selectively
read
the
ordinance.
They
only
pursued
one
aspect:
I'm
going
to
pull
this
up
again.
C
Here
they
could
have
pursued
downtown
vacancies,
it
could
have
pursued
utility
infrastructure,
they
could
have
pursued
parking
infrastructure,
they
only
pursued
employment
opportunities
and
they
only
this
Administration
only
funded
one
to
the
tune
of
less
than
a
million
dollars
out
of
the
10
plus.
That
was
available
in
the
fund
that
could
have
pursued
building
upgrades.
That
was
actually
they
pursued
a
building
upgrade
in
order
to
help
an
employer
pursue
more
opportunities.
C
So
if
the
administration,
knowing
that
they
have
this
fund
but
deciding
to
selectively,
read
it,
doesn't
bother
to
spend
the
money
knowing
that
if
the
fund
expires
and
they
they've
they
haven't
spent
at
all
they
can
they
get
to
just
punt
it
to
the
general
fund.
C
Why
should
this
Council
ever
again
approve
a
special
tax,
knowing
that
the
an
Administration
will
find
a
loophole
to
move
it
somewhere
to
do
whatever
they
want
with
it?
Why
should
we
ever
approve
another
special
understanding,
I
find
it
really
off-putting
and
I?
Don't
think
it's
a
precedent
that
we
should
set
here.
So
let's
talk
about
the
problem
with
the
10
million
that
they're
spending
7.9
million
of
it
only
the
last
item
in
the
memo
from
Mr
Allen
that
was
sent
the
downtown
activation
and
maintenance.
C
2.1
million
is
clearly
in
the
Creed,
but
let's
take
2.7
million
from
the
Creed
for
traffic
signal
modernization
and
replacement.
That's
all
over
the
city
that
doesn't
benefit
the
downtown
alone.
Greenway
is
1.2
million.
That's
great
I
support
Greenways
too,
but
this
is
money
that
came
from
the
downtown,
that's
being
spread
across
the
rest
of
the
city.
Two
point:
million
2.0
million
dollars
for
Street
Maintenance
for
buses
and
bikes
I
support.
All
those
things
too,
but
not
with
this
money
is,
is
any
money
from
the
state
fungible.
C
Should
we
really
just
shrug
and
not
care,
2.0
million
dollars
for
Safe
Streets
for
all
who's
going
to
be
opposed
to
that?
But
with
this
money,
there's
even
a
million
dollars
in
affordable
housing
coming
from
the
Creed,
none
of
that
housing
is
going
to
get
built
in
the
Creed
I.
Just
call
me
crazy,
I'm
trying
to
do
right
by
my
district.
This
seems
like
a
clear
cut
and
dried
case.
The
administration
conveniently
sat
on
the
money
didn't
spend
it,
and
so
they
could
use
it
for
whatever
they
wanted
to
Once
inevitably
expired.
C
They
had
plenty
of
time
to
use
it
on
other
things.
There
were
plenty
of
other
things
they
could
have
used
it
on
the
forestry
garage
being
one
example
squarely
in
the
Creed
squarely
in
what
it
was
for,
but
didn't
have
to
use
Tiff
funds
where
we
could
have
used
it
for
something
else.
Maybe
for
some
of
these
things.
C
Is
it
going
to
make
a
difference
if
I
bring
an
amendment
to
cut
some
of
this?
Probably
not
but
I'm,
going
to
bring
an
amendment
to
cut
these
until
it's
done
right,
the
Creed
District
deserved
a
lot
more
investment
than
it
got.
If
there's
one
thing,
I
can
suggest
electrical
infrastructure
around
the
square.
150
year
old,
200
year
old
Square
could
stand
to
be
improved,
may
be
buried.
We
could
have
activated
more
alleys
with
that
money
to
any
number
of
things
we
could
have
done
with
that
money.
C
I
proposed,
and
this
Council
to
my
a
pleasant
surprise,
supported
the
proposal
for
downtown
circulator
with
five
million
dollars
in
that
money.
That
would
be
squarely
in
the
Creed's
benefit.
Maybe
we
can
make
an
argument.
Maybe
the
administration
could
make
an
argument
for
certain
things
that
would
serve
the
Creed.
C
I
don't
appreciate
the
way
he's
trying
to
spend
it
and
I
would
urge
my
colleagues
to
support
every
thinking
of
the
spending
of
that
particular
fund,
at
least
until
they
can
break
down
until
they
can
break
down
how
much
will
be
spent
in
the
district
and
how
much
won't
be
I'll
be
moving
to
cut
7.9
million
if
they
want
to
come
back
and
say
that
certain
programs,
they're
going
to
spend
money
on
I
can
propose
cutting
less,
but
having
said
that,
otherwise,
I'm
generally
pleased
with
the
direction
that
the
budget
is
going.
D
D
Just
a
few
thoughts,
I
I'm,
not
unsympathetic
to
my
colleagues,
points
about
the
Creed,
but
I,
don't
think
I
see
it
quite
the
same
way.
There's
and
I.
Don't
think
it
was
quite
so
intentional,
perhaps
I
think
it
just
sort
of
is
the
way
decisions
were
made
and
funding
needs
were
identified
and
you
know
pursued
over
time.
I.
Don't
think
it
was
a
I
guess
a
bait
and
switch
to
to
use
the
term
that
my
colleague
did,
but
I'm
still
happy
to
consider.
D
You
know
an
amendment
and
weigh
it
on
its
merits.
Even
though
I'll
be
voting
in
support.
You
know,
via
recommendation
tonight,
a
couple
questions
for
me
that
that
councilmember
Roland's
comments
invite
one
is
that
by
the
same
logic,
should
we
be
demanding
that
6.4
million
that
was
left
over
from
the
Thompson
Creed
be
spent
in
the?
What
was
the
Thomson,
Creed
District
I
would
think
by
extension,
that
that
case
should
be
applied
there
too,
and
I
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
sense
either
clearly
by
the
rules.
D
You
know
if,
if
the,
if
the
funds
aren't
expensive
expended
and
they
are
spent
and
they
revert
to
the
general
fund,
they
can
be
used
elsewhere.
I
would
also
wager
that,
like
probably
50
to
75
percent
of
the
12
million
proposed
here
will
will
happen
in
the
downtown.
That's
where
most
of
the
signals
are.
That's
where
the
most
you
know,
pedestrian
infrastructure
is
there's
a
lot
of
need
there.
D
So
I
think
a
lot
of
the
benefit
will
in
fact
flow
there,
it's
difficult
to
determine
exactly
how
much,
because
the
projects
are
not
yet
determined,
because
it's
it's
a
lot
of
small
things
added
up
and
then
finally,
I'll
just
note
that
this
proposal
is
12
million
out
of
what
is
I
think
about
17.2
million
in
Creed
funds.
So,
what's
to
say
this:
isn't
the
Thompson
money
mostly
and
some
downtown
what
was
downtown
money?
It
all
became.
D
You
know
intermingled
obviously
when
it
went
to
the
general
fund,
but
this
also
isn't
all
of
the
Creed
dollars,
I
guess,
and
so
it
could
be
up
to
this
Council.
There
are
others
to
request
Appropriations
from
that
additional
money
in
the
future
to
further
benefit
the
downtown,
but
so,
that's
all
to
say,
I
I
am
sympathetic
to
some
of
what
customer
everyone
said,
but
I
think
there
are
some
reasons
that
I
see
some
of
it
a
little
bit
differently,
all
the
same
happy
to
consider
an
amendment
on
this
in
the
future.
Thank
you.
E
Well,
I
did
and
I
think
that
councilmember
Flaherty
and
I
summed
up
my
opinion
as
well.
I
I
think
I
will
abstain
this
evening
just
to
consider
a
council
member
of
Owens
point
of
view
and
discuss
it
with
him.
Cutting
7.9
million
dollars
is
a
big
ask.
I
I,
don't
anticipate
doing
that.
I
think
that
the
budget
is
sound.
E
There
are
certainly
expenditures
that
I
I
wish
had
been
made
that
that
weren't
but
overall,
but
does
this
set
a
precedent?
Don't
know
I'd
like
to
consider
it
a
bit
more
so
I'll
abstain
on
this
this
evening.
Thanks.
C
Yeah
to
answer
accountable
for
Flaherty's
question:
yes,
the
money
should
be
spent
where
it
was
raised.
That
is
the
clear
intent
of
the
legislation.
It's
a
clear
intent
of
the
statute
in
the
Thompson
Creed
about
half
the
money
was
spent
about.
6.5
million
dollars
was
spent
almost
entirely
in
the
no.
In
fact,
all
of
it
was
spent
in
the
Cruzan
Administration
about
six
and
a
half
million
dollars
is
about
seven
million
left
from
it.
So
there
was
more
of
an
effort
made
there.
C
C
If
the
administration
had
instead
asked
the
question,
how
can
we
spend
this
money
in
the
Creed
Fund
in
the
Creed
District,
where
it
was
generated?
They
would
have
come
to
different
conclusions
about
how
to
spend
the
money
the
administration
decided
they
wanted
to
do
something.
Then
they
went
looking
for
a
source
of
money.
Here
is
convenient
source
of
money.
C
If
I
were
an
Administration,
I
would
be
doing
something
similar,
but
the
bottom
line
is
that's
not
what
these
funds
were
for,
and
the
administration
had
many
opportunities
over
two
terms
to
make
different
choices
and
they
didn't.
They
made
one
narrow
choice
and
now
they're
spending
all
the
money
at
once,
I
mean
this
is
not
the
way
we
should
be
doing
business.
It's
not
the
way
we
should
be
reading
code.
C
I'll
call
attention
to
the
fact
that
the
the
enabling
legislation
that
created
the
2001
parking
garage
at
7th
and
walnut
and
the
2003
legislation
that
brought
the
Morton
garage
into
existence,
the
legislation
locally
called
for
increases
in
parking
in
order
to
fund
it
to
reduce
the
demand
from
the
Tiff.
This
Council
was
asleep
at
the
wheel
and
didn't
bother
to
raise
revenues
in
the
garages
for
more
than
a
decade,
so
that
that,
if
anybody
has
any
strong
feelings
about
Tiff
money,
I
mean
I,
guess
we
we
have.
We
have
a
precedent.
C
We've
been
spending
money
collectively,
like
drunken
Sailors
for
a
long
time,
not
paying
close
enough
attention
to
what
the
money
was
intended
for
what
the
legislation
specifically
called
for
what
the
intent
was.
So
I
have
no
choice
honestly,
but
to
raise
an
objection
now,
I,
don't
particularly
want
to
cut
funding
to
well-meaning
Services,
let
alone
ones
that
I
agree
with,
but
I
also
believe
I
need
to
serve.
My
district
and
I
believe
that
this
district
is
deserves
serving
by
the
the
fund
that
was
created
for
it.
C
So
I'm
going
to
be
voting
no
as
a
recommendation
tonight
and
I'll
be
looking
to
form
an
amendment
to
cut
as
many
funds
as
as
would
be
appropriate
to
cut
in
order
to
make
sure
that
it
gets
spent
where
it's
supposed
to
be.
Thank
you.