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A
April
28
2021.,
we
have
three
items
on
our
agenda
this
evening.
This
is
likely
to.
A
Be
a
lengthy
meeting,
and
so
I
would
like
the
council
to
consider
recessing
by
midnight.
A
And
for
that
we
will
need
a
motion
at
the
time
that
we
recess
so.
A
A
So
so
this
our
agenda
this
evening
will
proceed
with
the
following
legislation:.
A
A
B
Thank
you.
I
know
your
time
is
sensitive
tonight,
and
so
I
have
I'm
doing
a
very
concise.
B
Synopsis,
the
use
of
a
parking
permit
an
unauthorized
manner,
the
first
three
of
these.
B
B
B
B
Permit
is
stolen.
We
just
ask
that
the
form
is
filled
out
and
accompanied
with
a
police.
B
Report
and
then
we
waive
the
fee,
we
feel
like
they've
been
victimized
once
we
don't
want
to.
B
Do
that
again
to
them,
so
all
of
these
permits
are
kept
in
our
teaching
database
that
have
been.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
So
if
I
can
present
my
screen
I'll
share
some
data
with
you
is
it
okay
to
present.
B
12Th
of
2021.,
let
me
explain
the
data
I
took
out
the
individual's
name.
Of
course,
the
city.
B
B
Big
ones
right
here
and
then
I'm
going
to
give
you
just
a
small
example.
So
the
example
here.
B
B
Various
reasonings
various
incidents,
so
let
me
go
ahead
and
move
on.
B
B
Within
a
fiscal
year
you
can
be
towed
and
that's
paid
or
unpaid.
You
have
also,
if
you're
on.
B
If
they,
if
they
do
not
claim
the
boot,
then
they
are
towed
within
24
hours.
In
all
these
cases,.
B
B
It
over
on
the
reverse
and
take
the
steps,
steps
that
can
be
taken
to
avoid
being
towed.
B
I
will
also
have
a
whole.
I
already
already
have
a
placeholder
for
the
our
parking
website.
B
And
what
credit
cards
we
accept
if
the
citation
is
collection
status?
I
put
two
numbers
to
our
crs.
B
B
B
B
And
lastly,
I
think
another.
B
Protection
for
or
this
type
of
process
is
the
super,
but
you
have
to
have
a
supervisor
approval.
B
To
to
tow
so
somebody
in
the
parking
enforcement
with
supervisor
approval,
which.
B
B
No
practice
of
warning
people
before
they're,
towed
and
and
I
and
I
truly
believe
that.
B
Less
less
punitive,
it
was
four
unpaid
and
now
we're
moving
it
to
six,
and
that
is
my
presentation.
A
C
Satisfying
all
the
outstanding
citations
which
could
be
up
to
five,
what
happens
in
that
case.
B
C
Rollo,
can
I
ask
one
more
please:
well,
actually
it's
not
a
question.
I'd
really
like
to
know
if
the.
D
B
A
replacement
fee
is
charged
when
they
remove
the
let's
say
they
move.
B
And
they
go
to
a
different
zone,
then
they
have
to
have
a
replacement
permit.
So
that's.
B
Probably
the
most
popular
one,
probably
and
then,
if
they
change
cars,
let's
say
they.
You
know
they.
B
If,
for
any
reason,
they
lose
the
permit,
or
I
have
to
say
it,
some
people
share
the
permit.
F
Of
how
many,
how
many
of
those
who
have
violations
rely
on
a
payment
plan
with
us.
G
Are
under
six
is
what
you're
saying
it's
like
five
tickets.
Thank
you,
the
they
would
have
to
pay.
G
What,
if
they
okay?
Okay,
so
they
could
have
like
10
tickets
and
get
towed,
and
then
they.
B
I
Over
that
kind
of
line
of
questioning-
I
I
don't
recall
offhand
after
our
early
2020
discussions.
I
Of
towing
in
detail
exactly
like
what
a
daily
storage
fee
looks
like,
but
I'm
just
despite.
I
I
Being
towed
owing
a
thousand
dollars
or
500
not
being
able
to
pay
it
and
as
they
work
on
it,.
I
That's
obviously
a
very
long
time
before
they
have
the
option
for
a
payment
plan.
I
mean.
I
Staff
in
discussion
with
the
parking
commission
and
just
internally
with.
I
Ideas
been
workshopped
about
how
to
address
it,
whether
a
payment
plan,
you
know
directly
from.
B
We
I
mean
if
they
would
like
to
reach
out.
Our
whole
goal
is
for
them
to
reach
out
prior.
B
To
that
we
understand
some,
some
individuals
won't
and
some
individuals
cannot
pay,
but
I
believe.
B
That,
if
they
reach
out-
and
we
did
talk
about
it
in
parking
commission,
our
hopes
is
with.
B
I
I
Of
this,
if
you
get
your
set,
let's
say
you
have
eight
right
now
when
you
get
your
ninth
ticket.
B
The
steps
that
they
take
to
prevent
being
towed
the
next
time,
you're
found
in
violation.
A
First
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
you,
councilman
repeatments.
She
raised
her
hand
first,
yes,
but.
A
She
already
took
him:
oh
okay,
ms
walla,
as
you
know,
I've
already
familiar
with
this
from.
J
This
discussion
of
the
parking
commission,
but
the
questions
asked
now
make
me
lead.
J
To
the
question,
perhaps
there
could
be
some
educating
being
done
before
the.
J
Fifth
ticket,
in
other
words,
is
there
any
kind
of
printed
material
that
talks
about.
J
You
know
saying
you
know:
towing
happens
after
six
tickets.
Read
more
at
this
website.
B
B
A
Proceed
to
second
round
questions,
let
me
just
address
the
public
that
have
arrived
since.
A
In
a
few
minutes,
so
council,
member
piedmont
smith,
did
you
have
a
question?
Yes,
thank
you.
E
So
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
all
the
changes
compared
with
what
happens
now
so.
B
B
E
D
I
I
don't
have
a
question,
but
I
thought
I
might
add
a
little
bit
of
clarity
for.
D
D
D
A
A
F
F
Them
for
towing,
if
this
ordinance
had
already
passed
one
element
of
this
ordinance
states.
F
Any
required
publication
has
necessary
other
promulgation
accordance
with
the
law.
Is
that.
B
Notice
or
the
citation
I
can
put
up
anything
on
our
website,
so
I
do
have
the.
F
You're,
muted,
I'm
sorry
about
that.
I
think
it
will
unfold
organically,
as
we.
B
Unfortunately,
the
citations
and
are
in
a
point
where
they're
like,
can
you
help
us?
That's.
B
A
Okay,
see
none
mr
lucas
we'll
go
to
public
comments.
If
anyone
in
the
public
would
like.
A
To
comment
on
the
ticketing
and
towing
ordinance
that's
been
presented,
this
is
ordinance
2126.
A
H
Mr
horsley
hi
yeah.
Thank
you
just
out
of
a
curiosity,
and
I
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
have.
K
Yes,
next
up
is
stephen
layman,
who
should
be
able
to
unmute.
A
Thank
you
for
your
question.
It
might
be
addressed
by
further
council
questions.
N
As
well,
I
appreciate
your
time
is
there
data
available
on
where
these
violating.
N
A
The
of
the
driver,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
okay
but
we'll
we'll
follow
up
with.
K
Yes,
I
also
see
a
request
for
comment
from
jean
len.
K
O
Her
job,
I
ended
up
in
that
case
helping
her
with
that
situation
and
I
think,
even
if
it's
a
few.
O
People,
I
think
you
should
be
careful
about
that.
That's
all.
Thank
you,
mr
lennon,
for
your
comment.
K
K
K
K
Thank
you,
mr
lucas.
Okay,
we'll
return
now
to
council
for
final
comments
or
further
questions.
E
Yes,
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
mr
layman's
question.
How
long
can
a
tow
company
keep
a.
B
E
So
I
I
am
concerned
about
the
issue
that
council
member
flaherty
and
gene
lennon
raised.
E
About
you
know,
individuals
who
get
themselves
into
trouble,
we
all
have
done.
E
E
Be
passing
tonight
and
reaching
out
to
ms
wall
and
miss
cox
to
see
if
there
might
be
some.
E
Appeal
process
in
in
such
cases,
where
it's
just
clear
that
the.
A
I
I
The
notes
that
kind
of
the
situation
that
councilman
piedmont
smith
was
just
talking
about.
I
Is
pretty
rare
and
I
think,
will
hopefully
be
even
more
rare
with
this
kind
of
additional.
I
Education
step
and
that
sort
of
thing,
even
so
it
can
and
probably
will
happen
and
and.
I
Yeah,
I'm
uncomfortable
with
the
current
ordinance,
specifically
the
potential
for
someone
to
have.
I
I
But
I
feel
like
that
probably
just
needs
to
be
codified,
so
I'll
be
I'll,
be
waiting
to.
I
Staff
or
other
council
members
to
address
that
small
gap
but
important
cap
so
appreciate
all
the.
I
Work
that
went
into
all
the
other
portions
and
thank
you,
councilmember
rosenberger,.
G
J
Yeah,
I
recognize
the
concern.
That's
been
brought
up
by
members
of
the
public.
J
And
by
several
of
my
colleagues
tonight,
and
I
share
it
that
that
shouldn't
be.
J
I
mean
I
still
am
going
to
vote
for
this
ordinance
now.
That's
partly
because
I
had
some.
J
Help
in
advising
a
lot
of
the
parking
commission,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
I.
J
J
Somebody,
you
know
coherently,
you
know
directing
and
managing
parking
policy.
J
And
this
is
one
of
the
first
significant
you
know
amendations
to
parking
policy.
J
We're
gonna
have
hiccups
and
growing
pains,
so
I'm
confident
that
by
next
week
we
can
work
out.
J
Are
you
know
and
poverty,
but
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
that
our
parking
rules
are
enforced.
J
So
I'm
confident
that
ms
wahl
will
be
able
to
work
with
those
concerns
and
I
had
something.
J
For
us
by
next
week
so,
but
you
know
like
it's,
it's
a
legitimate
concern
that
I
share.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
seeing
none,
we
had
a
recommendation
and
a
second,
I
believe
I'll
begin.
As
I
see.
A
Parliamentarian,
most
typically
in
committee
meetings,
the
chair
kind
of
just
goes
down
the.
I
List,
but
really
up
to
you:
yes,
councilmember
scandaluri,
yes,
councilmember
flaherty,.
C
A
A
Until
a
further
a
future
meeting
and
council
president
sims
council
leadership,.
C
C
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
president
sims
councilmember
vollen
did
you
have
a.
A
Question
I
had
a
question
for
mr
lucas.
What
would
be
the
appropriate
motion.
J
K
Make
a
recommendation
that
the
two
items
related
to
the
udl
wouldn't
return
to.
K
K
J
K
To
hide
any
non-video
participants,
I
know
we've
got
close
to
260
folks
on
the
meeting
so.
A
Any
any
other
questions
to
clarify.
Okay
before
we
proceed,
I'd
like
to
propose
a
certain
structure.
A
Of
this
meeting
tonight
for
deliberations
and
debate,
and
that
is
to
have
staff
report
on.
A
And
then
entertain
amendments
allow
15
minutes
for
the
presentation
of.
P
P
P
So
I
will
try
to
squeeze
this
in.
Hopefully
I
won't
go
that
long
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me.
P
Transportation
department-
and
what
we
are
here
to
discuss
tonight
is
ordinance
2123,
which
is.
P
P
End
of
march
and
beginning
of
april
of
this
year,
they
voted
to
send
the
petition
forward
that
we.
P
All
discussed
tonight
with
a
vote
of
six
to
three
and
added
two
amendments
to
the
petition.
P
P
Allow
duplexes
as
a
permitted
use
in
the
r1,
r2,
r3
and
r4
residential
districts.
Those
are
our.
P
Those
are
our
primarily
single
family
zoning
districts
and
to
allow
triplexes
in
the
r4.
P
District
as
a
conditional
use,
the
proposal
also
conclude
also
includes
a
proposal
to
amend
the
use.
P
Specific
standards
related
to
the
three
uses
that
I
mentioned:
duplex
triplex
and
fourplex.
P
P
Of
council
last
time
this
prop,
this
discussion
was
had
in
2019.
P
And
duplexes
and
triplexes
as
permitted
with
you
specific
standards,
that's
what.
P
The
asterisk
denotes
in
the
r4
zoning
district.
You
can
also
see
that
currently.
P
There
are
asterisks
in
for
both
uses
in
r1
through
r3.
That
is
not
something
that
is
we're.
P
Not
able
to
administer
that
the
way
the
code
is
written,
that's
actually
something
that
has
to.
P
Which
is
duplex
dwelling
permitted
again
with
you
specific
standards
in
the
r1
r2,
r3
and
r4.
P
Zoning
districts
and
triplex
as
conditional
in
the
r4
with
you
specific
standards.
P
So
again,
just
as
a
separate
those
out
a
little
bit,
duplex
only
is
the
only
use,
that's
being.
P
So,
as
I
mentioned
there
are
you
specific
standards,
changes
so
use
specific
standards.
P
Those
that
were
put
in
again
in
the
2019
full
repeal
and
replace.
Currently
we
as
as
a.
P
Staff
proposed
and
then
plan
commission
is
also
recommending
to
amend
those
use,
specific
standards.
P
P
A
registered
agent
for
a
property
cannot
have
a
violation
on
file
violation
of
the
udo
on
file.
P
P
The
structure
you
can
see
those
here
having
to
do
with
roof
pitch.
I'm
sorry
three
remain.
P
Related
to
design
one
is
that
your
elements
of
your
building
have
to
be
similar
in
general.
P
And
vehicle
parking
access,
we
also
limited
the
number
of
total
bedrooms
to
six
and.
P
P
Related
to
a
potential
demolition
permit
and
the
40-foot
width
maximum,
and
we
added
in.
P
The
a
provision
about
the
notice
of
violation,
as
well
as
a
provision
related
to
front
door.
P
Use
specific
standards
were
left
in
related
to
roof
pitched
front
porch
with
in
depth.
P
Etc,
and
also
the
maximum
number
of
bedrooms,
which
is
three
per
side
three
per
unit.
Excuse
me.
P
And
they
each
have
to
have
separate
utility
meters
and
also
the
definition
of
family.
P
And
there
are
10
other
criteria
that
need
to
be
met
and
that
was
taken
out
for
duplexes.
P
P
P
Council
and
something
that
was
discussed
in
the
comprehensive
plan
and
then
reinforced
by
that.
P
P
Is
that
we
need
more
housing,
we
are
we,
as
as
the
administration
and
separate
departments.
P
Tool
and
we
are
proposing
different
layers
just
in
the
zoning
code,
including.
P
Our
mixed-use
student
housing
district,
which
you
will
see,
mapped
in
the
2124
ordinance.
P
P
Were
made
by
wright
in
april
2020
and
again,
then
some
more
additional
changes
to
help.
P
Those
along
just
this
month
and
then
we
also,
of
course,
will
be
encouraging
and
working.
P
With
property
owners
for
development
of
housing
in
underdeveloped
or
undeveloped,
areas
as
well.
P
A
lot
north
of
17th
street
that's
being
developed
and,
of
course,
we
have
old.
P
Where
people
more
people
are
able
to
live
in
areas
that
are
easier
to
get
places
by
foot.
P
We
see
sprawl
for
many
reasons,
one
of
which
is
running
out
of
land
that
is
available.
P
For
development
in
town,
because
it
has
been
set
aside
for
few
uses,.
P
And
seen
in
those
minutes
was
intended
to
down
zone
the
areas
immediately
adjacent
to
town.
P
For
single
family
use
and
those
numbers
aren't
changing,
haven't
changed
in
some
time.
P
They
are
obviously,
of
course,
accurate,
but
the
it's
kind
of
a
it's
not
quite
equivalent.
P
To
say
that
allowing
the
opportunity
for
duplexes
will
necessarily
increase
rentals.
P
P
Rental,
then
not
allowing
two
units
on
one
lot
does
that
we
often
hear
that
we
are
trying.
P
P
Done
by
bloomington
restorations
incorporated
because
in
response
to
a
survey
that
the
state.
P
P
Sees
those
those
rules
are
not
as
strict,
but
if
a
property
was
notable
or
outstanding.
P
They
could
make
recommendation
for
designation
to
this
council
and
this
council
could.
P
Designate
those
properties
that
they
see
fit
and
then
for
demolition
of
other
properties,
not.
P
One
thing
we
have
heard
a
few
times
related
to
existing
conditions
is
that
the
concern
that.
P
P
P
P
You
know
how
zoomed
in
this
map
is,
and
there
are,
at
its
most
conservative
counts,
178
existing.
P
Single
family
lots
in
those
districts-
those
lots
you
can
see
them
here
on
this
map,
they're.
P
P
In
the
near
near
north
downtown,
so
they
are
in
areas
that
are
very
similar
to
some.
P
Of
the
historic
neighborhoods
and
in
some
cases
are
located
in
them
and
those
lots.
P
Are
not
receiving
any?
We
have
not
received
any
requests
for
duplex
conversions,
tear
downs
of.
P
Any
kind
for
any
of
those
homes,
since
the
new
code
has
been
enacted,
we
haven't
even
received
any.
P
That
that
the
process
were
plexus
to
be
allowed
duplexes
in
some
of
these
areas.
P
We
are,
we
have
seen
20
requests
for
those
in
the
last.
I
believe
it's
been
four
years.
P
Since
those
were
first
discussed
and
another
topic
here
for
existing
conditions,
existing.
P
Most
people
know
their
plexus
in
town,
but
one
thing
that
I
think
is
missed
sometimes
is
that
if.
P
Make
a
hallway
smaller,
they
can't
you
know,
change
a
back
porch
into
living
space.
P
A
little
bit
of
rental
data
we
have
because
again,
while
rental
well,
the
discussion
about.
P
P
P
In
the
existing
rer2
and
r3
districts
we
have
a
little
under
3
000.
Existing
rental
addresses.
P
P
Public
when
we
have
been
hearing
from
them,
many
many
of
them
own
rentals,
we
hear
a
lot
about.
P
Out-Of-Town
developers
and
being
worried
about
large
groups,
but
what
the
numbers
show
is
that.
P
Obviously,
our
larger
our
larger
groups,
so
a
third
of
our
properties
that
are
rentals.
P
And
converting
and
running
rentals
in
town
are
people
who
live
in
bloomington.
P
Another
issue,
one
issue
that
we're
trying
to
address
or
an
issue.
P
The
the
most
protected
and
encouraged
use
in
our
zoning
code,
as
I
mentioned,
51
percent.
P
Oh
actually,
I
haven't
mentioned
this,
yet
I'm
sorry
51
of
our
publicly
available
land.
That's.
P
Non-Institutional
land,
so
not
owned,
basically
by
iu
or
the
city,
is
zoned
for
single
family.
P
And
not,
oh,
a
single
family
can
go
there
that
only
a
single
family
can
go
there.
That's.
P
Having
a
home
ownership
when
our
parcels
already
exist,
and
they
have
one
home
on
them,.
P
They
are
unavailable
for
that
and
that's
73
of
the
area
that
we
have
is
limited
in
that
way.
P
The
only
ones
in
which
they're
not
allowed
are
parks,
employment,
medical
and
institutional.
P
That's
not
right
downtown
and
institutional,
and
they
are
no.
Changes
are
proposed
to
that.
P
Another
option
to
the
code
in
the
form
of
plexus,
so
again
here's
a
map
you
can
see.
P
So
the
comprehensive
plan
has
a
number
of.
P
Goals
that
talk
about
things
I've
been
mentioning
a
lack
of.
We
are
trying
to.
P
P
A
lot
that
or
some
that
this
is
not
affordable
housing,
it
is
not
affordable.
Housing
we've
not.
P
Said
that
this
is
an
opportunity
to
potentially
affect
housing,
affordability.
P
We
haven't
made
changes
to
our
to
our
zoning
and
we've
had
those
restrictions
on.
P
P
To
have
have
a
positive
effect
we'd
we
are
growing
we'd
like
to
meet
population
growth
again.
P
Increasing
opportunities
for
housing,
ensuring
a
full
mix
of
housing
at
different
price
points.
P
And
a
range
of
diverse
housing,
types
in
downtown
and
adjoining
areas.
P
Basically,
we
do
think
that
this
goal
that
this
excuse
me
proposal
does
support
the
comprehensive.
P
Plan
we
understand
that
there
are
some
conflicting
specific
goals
in
the
plan
and
you
this
might.
P
Be
a
discussion
later
for
the
map,
but
we
have
hold
back
those
areas
where
we're
asking
for.
P
More
unit
plexus
so
triplexes
and
fours
to
kind
of
the
edges
of
neighborhoods.
But
we
don't.
P
Think
that
duplexes
are
a
high
density
use
that
should
be
relegated
to
those
areas.
P
And
again,
welcoming
different
types
of
people
to
the
community
and
making
opportunities
for.
P
More
people
to
be
able
to
live
in
areas
that
we
as
a
community
have
already
determined,
are.
P
Positive
and
offer
and
offer
things
to
the
residents
who
get
to
live
there,
and
this.
P
Neighborhoods
again
duplexes
adding
an
extra
unit,
it's
the
same
as
accessory
dwelling
units.
A
A
Like
you're
nearly
done,
I
am,
I
think,
okay,
thank
you,
so
basically
just
to
wrap
up
here.
P
P
P
Districts
that
allow
plexus
with
single
family-
that's
not
something
we
have.
We
do
think
the.
P
And
that
there
is
a
demonstrated
need.
The
plan
commission,
as
I
mentioned,
approved
two
amendments.
P
Provision
for
duplexes
in
r1
through
r3,
and
I
can
answer
any
questions.
As
I
said,
they
voted
6-3.
P
A
Correct
clerk
bolden
has
indicated
that
ordinance
2126
received
a
513
recommendation.
A
That
was
the
the
ticketing
and
towing
ordinance
I
miscounted
so
now
we'll
go
to
council
questions.
J
P
J
J
P
And
porch
with
parking
access,
and
I
believe,
there's
one
more
very
good.
Thank
you.
A
Q
So
does
this
mean
that
duplexes
can
have.
Q
P
P
We
saw
that
some
were
owner-occupied
and
yeah.
We
do
think
that
it's
an
opportunity
to.
P
Increase
owner
occupancy
in
the
community,
thank
you.
Miss
campbell,
further
council.
A
F
To
conditional
versus
permitted,
would
you
rather,
I
held
those
until
we
got
to
amendments.
F
F
Question
for
me
in
this
entire
discussion,
so
much
has
centered
on
permitted
versus
conditional.
F
In
this
process,
could
you
talk
about
that?
What
exactly
is
the
role
of
the
board
of.
F
Could
you
dive
in
so
okay,
so
I'm
just
gonna
throw
this
back
up.
This
is
the
conditional
use.
P
Being
given
out
at
some
kind
of
public
presentations,
the
role
of
the
board
of.
P
But
basically
that
whatever
your
conditional
use
is
that
you
are
meeting
all
of
the
development.
P
Standards
and
use
standards
in
the
code.
There
are
no
questions
with
that
and
that
you
are.
P
Meeting
any
other
applicable
environmental
standards
or
utility
standards,
and
so.
P
Use
and
then
the
four
or
excuse
me,
the
sixth,
below
consistency
with
the
comprehensive.
P
Plan
other
applicable
plans,
for
example
the
transportation
plan
providing
adequate
public.
P
P
Some
of
these
may
seem
too
broad
because
you
may
not
be
really
providing
much
of
a.
P
A
large
development
that
would
need
to
provide
public
services,
but
number
three
is
the
one.
P
P
Significance
import
significant
importance
that
they
shall
not
cause
significant
adverse
impacts.
P
Meeting
so
basically
at
the
board
of
zoning
appeals,
the
petitioner
is
making
a
request.
P
P
If,
if
things
come
to
light
at
that
hearing
that
indicate
that
they
do
not.
P
Meet
those
ten
criteria,
then
the
board
of
zoning
appeals
can
certainly
deny
a
request.
P
And
if
they
can
meet
those
items,
as
well
as
our
general
development
standards
like.
F
F
That
good
faith
effort
is
a
very
subjective
thing.
What
kind
what's
enough
of
a
good
faith.
P
Put
that
in
last
year,
so
we
have
not
seen
it
used
much
honestly
and
actually
anyone
else.
P
A
Let
me
see
you
all:
councilmember
flaherty,
I
believe,
is
next.
I
I
P
Have
I'd
have
to
check
on
that?
For
example,
in
the
puds
section
code
specifically
indicates
that.
J
There
we
go
part
of
the
administration's
overall
effort
in
developing
the
new
udo.
J
For
that
purpose,
how
many
units,
roughly
of
new
multi-family
dwellings
that
are
for
lack
of.
J
J
Within
the
next
few
years
are
already
already
open,
that's
a
good
question.
Let
me
see
here
hold
on.
J
2020
bloomington
housing
study
yeah,
we
have
we,
I
can
give
you
those
numbers,
the
numbers
that
I.
J
General
yeah
multi-family
in
general,
private
development,
since
let's
say
since
january
of.
P
2016
this
does-
and
this
number
does
include
some
rehabs,
so
not
new
development,
and
I
will
stress.
P
My
gosh
3
300
units
and
6
300
beds,
and
we
sent
that
information.
I
believe
to
you
guys
earlier.
P
Misinformation
in
it,
so
I
we
we
sent
those
totals
as
well
just
to
clarify,
what's
been
actually.
P
Done
since
16.,
and
just
one
more
figure
how
many
total
housing
units
are
there
in
the
city.
J
J
About
22,
but
there's
been
a
lot
built,
so
I
mean:
do
you
have
that
figure?
I
think
it's.
J
J
A
No
you're
correct
so
councilmember
piedmont,
smith,.
E
Yes,
thank
you
could
miss
ganlin.
Could
you
please
speak
briefly
to
section
5
of
the.
E
Ordinance
which
talks
about
reporting,
yes,
what
kind
of
reporting
would
the
staff
sure
make
on.
E
The
results
of
this
ordinance
yeah
great,
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
We
would
be
what
we
were.
P
Ordinance,
which
I
think
makes
sense,
we
would
be
tracking
both
requests
and
approvals
for
all.
P
Plexes,
basically,
including
you,
know,
remodels
that
would
be
coming
in
under
the
code
that.
P
Currently
can't
happen
and
where
those
are
located,
basically
who's
making
them.
How
you
know.
P
When
they're
coming
in
and
so
again
requests
and
approvals,
and
then
we
would
be
planning
to.
P
P
Idea,
being
you
know,
we
do
think
this
is
a
good
proposal.
We
think
it
will
be
incremental.
P
If
that
it
does
end
up,
if,
if
it
appears
that
that
is
not
going
to
happen,
we
we
don't.
That
is.
P
What
we
want
to
happen
so
if
something
needs
to
be
changed,
then
we
want
to
be
reporting
to.
A
Okay,
I
don't
see
any
other
first
round,
councilmember
smith.
I
think
I'll
take
a
bite.
A
Miss
ganlin
you
mentioned
that
this
is
a
an
additional
housing
form.
That's
needed.
A
I
disagree
with
you
that
this
is
going
to
be
anything
but
rental.
I
think
it
will.
A
A
Converted
to
plexus
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
that
we
have
an
exact
number.
I
think
again,
it's
part
of
a.
P
P
And
as
it
related
to
whether
or
not
they're
rental,
we
do
also
have
high
rental.
P
Rent
and
so
the
lowering
of
rental
costs
could
also
have
a
benefit
for
this
community,
but.
P
Yes,
I
don't
do
not
believe
that
we
have
an
exact
number
of
how
many
we
think
would
tip
the
scale.
P
Things
the
administration
is
doing
like
money
for
first-time
homebuyers
those
types
of
things.
P
A
Talking
and
we've
approved
thousands
of
rental
units,
so
I'm
anticipating
that
what
we're.
P
Thousands
of
conversions,
I
think,
in
this
community,
if
we
saw
hundreds
in
the
first
five.
P
Years
we'd
be
back
here
discussing
it,
we
do
not
think
that
that
is
going
to
be
the
pace.
That's
not.
P
What
we're
anticipating?
We
don't
think
this
is
the
answer
for
increasing
our
housing.
P
J
So
I
I
think
miss
canlin
came
close
to
answering
it.
I
mean
I'm
looking
for.
J
P
Us
to
come
back
unless
they
are
clearly
of
the
type
that
the
most
vocal
in
the
community.
P
P
Excludes
a
number
of
our
more
absentee
landlords
and
that
the
opportunity
it's.
P
Just
part
of
a
toolbox
opportunity
for
people
to
be
able
to
have
options
on
how
to
live
here.
P
Q
Thank
you,
mr
rallo.
I
just
I
was
going
to
follow
up.
Q
Somewhat
on
your
your
line
of
questioning
and
mr
bollins.
P
P
Historic
neighborhoods,
if
you
do
a
conversion
and
create
a
second
unit
and
sell
that
to
someone.
P
Else:
you're
not
selling
it
to
them
for
350,
000
and
now
they're
able
to
live
in
that
area.
P
P
With
property
owners
on
larger
areas,
but
this
is
just
one
option
that
we
think
could
be
helpful.
I
Of
course
how's
you
know,
supply
and
demand
in
the
aggregate.
Housing
context
has
some
impact.
I
I
Proposal
is
that
it's
more
about
the
housing
type
and
its
affordability.
Specifically,
you
kind
of.
I
Were
living
closer
to
where
you
work
play
can
reduce
the
car
or
whatever
those
are
kind
of
the.
I
Main
things
I
think
of,
are
there
other
aspects
of
affordability
that
are
sort
of
in
the.
P
Have
roads
already,
we
have,
you,
know,
sewer
access,
water
access,
those
types
of
things
that.
P
P
Basically,
having
to
build
all
of
the
things
that
already
exist
in
other
other
parts
of
town,
so.
I
R
F
A
Summary
of
our
amendment,
mr
lucas,
if
you
could
display
the
amendment
and
perhaps
at
the
time.
A
Focus
on
the
points
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
A
Followed
by
council
member
smith
for
five
minutes
and
then
councilmember
sandberg
will
wrap
it
up.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Q
About
almost
destroyed
ill
heights,
I
was
in
elm
heights
today,
they're
still
talking.
Q
Q
Of
overwhelming
opposition
by
the
majority,
by
seven
to
one
people
in
bloomington.
Q
R
R
R
R
R
I
Councilwoman
respond
and
sponsors
the
amendment
we'd
love
to
hear
from
staff
as
well.
If
that's.
I
P
Sure,
yes,
we
will
obviously
not
be
supporting
amendment
one.
The
original
proposal
that
went.
P
To
plan
commission
called
for
duplexes
as
conditional
in
the
three
districts
that
are.
P
Being
proposed
to
be
removed,
we
we
think
it's
kind
of
a
slippery
slope.
We
don't
think.
P
P
Occupancy
it
also
increases
the
opportunity
for
rental.
If
we're
trying
to
avoid
rentals,
then.
P
We
should
not
allow
them
if
we're
trying
to
increase
our
occupancy,
then
we
think
that.
P
We
should-
and
I
just
one
point
that
kind
of
keeps
coming
up.
I
invite
everyone
to
study
the.
P
Zoning
map,
when
we
talk
about
increased
density,
making
sense
on
the
edges,
we
have
that
now.
P
On
the
edges
of
our
neighborhoods,
they
are
most
often
edged
by
multi-actual
multi-family.
P
Zoning
or
commercial
and
then
in
the
r4
areas
are
the
pockets
that
we
found
that
maybe
weren't.
P
Edged
and
then
that
we'll
talk
about
that
more
later
yeah,
we
are
happy
to
discuss.
P
But
for
all
the
reasons
we
mentioned
in
the
staff
report,
we
would
not
be
supporting
the.
A
J
To
ask
about
something:
a
distinction
hasn't
really
been
made
in
this
discussion.
Duplexes.
Q
I'm
I'm
happy
to
say
in
my
mind,
we're
trying
to
my
thought:
is
owner
occupy?
That's
a
it's
a.
Q
Way
to
build
wealth,
it's
a
well
to
a
way
to
have
stable,
neighborhoods
and
rentals
are
not
so.
R
R
That
you
know
yes,
they
could
be
bought
and
sold
as
as
a
condo
or
as
a
as
an
owner-occupied.
R
Structure,
but
what's
our
guarantee,
we
don't
know
that
and
and
what's
happening
is
you're.
R
R
R
R
Great
on
paper,
but
we
think
with
the
eventuality
and
a
lot
of
these
homeowners
are
getting.
R
J
Incentive
that
I'm
thinking
of
is
a
tax
abatement
which
we've
given
for
much
larger.
A
And
what
I
would
say
is
that
this
form
is
is
recommended
against
in
the
comp
plan.
A
J
A
No,
there
isn't
they
can
they
could
rent
too.
Absolutely
but
again,
the
profit
incentive
is.
A
Thank
goodness
no
further
questions.
J
So
next
question
is:
we've
heard
that
there's
several
hundred
existing
duplexes
in
the
city.
J
These
are
all
six
nine
or
twelve
unrelated
adults
in
the
building
by
the
arguments
that
you've.
J
R
J
I
have
one
more
question,
but
I'll
wait
for
others.
Mr
lucas,
are
we
if
we
exhausted
our
time.
J
J
The
vast
majority
of
the
district
I
represent
is
students.
Do
the
sponsors
consider
students.
R
Live
in
our
core
neighborhoods,
they
do
they
live
in
mine.
They
live
across
the
street
from
me.
R
This
is
not
anti-student
whatsoever.
This
is
a
protection
of
single-family
home
ownership.
R
R
Most
likely
to
happen,
as
do
the
many
people
who
live
in
these
neighborhoods.
Well,
if
I
may.
J
While
the
sponsors,
you
know
you
the
three
of
you,
you
know
believe
that
it's
not.
J
Anti-Student,
that's
not
the
message
we've
been
getting
from
the
many
people.
Who've
been
writing.
J
Against
the
proposal
by
the
administration,
they
are
explicitly
saying
that
they
are
afraid.
A
J
Said
that
you
know
existing
plexus
are
okay
and
they're
full
of
more
than
three
unrelated.
J
A
Balance
to
to
your
rentals
in
a
big
big
way-
I
I
don't
see
it,
but
I
think
if
I
may
comment.
Q
That
yeah,
the
folks
in
elm
heights,
who
are
really
sending
us
a
lot
of
emails
and
talking
to
us.
Q
They
felt
that
in
the
70s
and
80s
the
balance
was
tipped
and-
and
it
really.
Q
Q
Students,
but
if
our
constituents
have
these
worries-
and
I
just
talked
to
somebody.
Q
J
Being
proposed
here,
mr
smith,
I
I
I
understand.
I
understand
if
somebody
has
a
perception.
Q
What
can
we
do?
We
can
only
try
to
respond
to
the
concerns
of
our
constituents
and,
in
this
case,.
Q
J
A
In
this
private
equity
investors,
finance
professors
who
say
that
the
the
profit
incentive.
A
A
A
C
Thank
you
a
little
bit
of
a
comment,
then
a
question
and
I'll
just
limit
it
to
one.
C
Because
we
have
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
talk
tonight.
My
main
premise
during
this.
C
Listened
to
experts
on
both
sides
of
the
issue,
but
the
bottom
line
to
me
and
there's
other.
C
Factors
but
it's
supply
and
demand,
supply
and
demand
of
our
housing
inventory.
I
I
get.
C
Some
of
the
experts,
opinions
and-
and
I'm
not
here
to
say
yes
or
no,
but
my
question
is
this:.
C
C
C
Starter
homes
and
then,
when
you
sell
your
home,
then
you
move
to
the
next
level
of
home.
C
C
But
I
think
the
more
we
increase
is
going
to
put
downward
pressure,
hopefully
on
the
overall.
C
Market-
I
guess
I
would
just
like
for
the
hear
response
on
that:
okay
I'll,
take
that
one.
A
Permitting
we've
been
agreeing
and
allowing
thousands
and
thousands
of
rental
units
this.
A
A
Decidedly
rental:
okay:
to
have
an
impact,
but
I
would
just
go
back
to
the
your
first
part
of.
A
A
C
C
Levels,
my
concern
is:
do
you
still
foresee
that
there
will
be
thousands
of
homes
that.
C
C
A
Condo
downtown,
or
perhaps
they
live
into
the
live
in
the
county.
You
know
they've
made
it
they've.
A
A
A
R
R
In
terms
of
the
kind
of
the
the
the
changes
in
our
core
neighborhoods
that
are.
R
That
you
know
we've
tried
to
protect
to
be
owner
occupied,
so
we
really
don't
know.
None
of
us
do.
A
I
agree,
and
I
would
just
add,
since
the
code's
been
enacted,
we've
been
in
a
pandemic.
Q
Is
that
president
sims,
I
I
I
take
your
point.
The
one
thing,
though,
from
my
it
was.
Q
Q
Gonna
leave
bloomington
and
I
I
don't.
I
don't
think
that's
a
great
avenue
kind
of
worries
me.
A
A
G
G
Homeowners,
I
think
we
just
what's
happening
right
now,
yeah,
so
yes,
that's
something
we
hear.
P
Often,
if
we
do,
this
developers
will
bid
against
homeowners.
That's
already
happening,
buying
a.
P
P
On
west
9th
street,
oh
there's
a
house
where
the
the
assessed
value
is
a
certain
amount.
Well.
P
P
At
the
other
houses
that
have
sold
in
that
area
and
some
some
of
those
homes,
we
have
also.
P
Then
seen
immediately
turn
around
to
remodel
by
local
people
who
do
local,
rentals
and
and.
P
Also
to
this
point
I
would
like
to
say:
yes,
we
have
been
in
a
pandemic.
We
approved
plan
commission.
P
Developing
here,
and
so
that
is
why
we
I
wanted
to
bring
to
light
the
178
number
and.