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From YouTube: Bloomington City Council, September 6, 2023
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B
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D
Right,
yes,
I
can
I
can
do
it?
Sorry
about
that.
We
recognize
that
the
city
of
Bloomington
sits
on
native
land.
The
city
as
well
as
City
administrative
buildings
are
on
the
traditional
homelands,
the
Miami,
Delaware,
Potawatomi
and
Shawnee
people,
and
we
acknowledge
they
are
past
present
and
future
caretakers
of
this
land.
We
also
acknowledge
that
much
of
the
economic
progress
and
development
in
Indiana
and
specifically
resulted
from.
D
Employee
enslaved
African
labor
colleges
and
remains
home
to
in
a
site
of
gathering
and
healing
for
many
indigenous
and
other
people
of
color
and
commit
to
the
work
necessary
to
create
and
promote
a
more
Equitable
and
just
living.
We
move
forward
knowing
and
acknowledging
our
Rich
complicated
and
sometimes
painful
past,
so
that
we
can
learn
from
it
and
create
a
true
land
of
opportunity.
C
Thank
you
continuing
with
the
agenda
summation,
we'll
begin
tonight
with
the
approval
of
minutes
from
two
regular
sessions,
one
on
February,
16,
2022
and
another
on
September
21st.
2022
will
then
continue
with
reports
included.
There
are
council
member
reports,
reports
from
the
mayor
and
city
offices
I'm
not
aware
of
any
under
that
heading
any
reports
from
Council
committees
and
that
will
take
us
to
our
first
of
two
periods
of
public
comment.
C
We'll
then
take
up
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions,
and
then
we
come
to
legislation
for
second
readings
and
resolutions.
There
we
have
one
item
of
legislation:
resolution
2316
calling
for
an
increase
to
the
salary
of
the
city.
Clerk
in
the
2024
City
budget
will
then
come
to
legislation
for
first
readings.
There
we
have
two
items:
one
is
ordinance
2320
to
amend
title
12
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
entitled
streets,
sidewalks
and
storm
sewers
regarding
establishing
section
12,
a
new
section,
12.04.130
entitled
obstructing
the
right-of-way
second
item.
C
There
is
ordinance
2321
to
amend
title
15
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code
entitled
vehicles
and
traffic
regarding
amending
section
15.32.150
to
remove
the
four-hour
limit
on
all
accessible
spaces
that
will
bring
us
to
our
second
of
two
periods
of
public
comment.
We'll
then
take
up
matters
of
council
schedule
and
then
we'll
adjourn
so
with
that,
let's
move
to
the
approval
of
minutes.
C
B
A
C
C
D
Yes,
thank
you,
I
believe
Council
staff
have
a
very
short
PowerPoint
to
share
with
you,
so
I
just
wanted
to
report
back
on
the
aim
idea:
Summit,
that's
the
association
of
Indiana
cities
and
towns.
Accelerate
Indiana
municipalities
is
what
that
stands
for
and
that
Summit
took
place
two
weeks
ago
in
French,
Lick
and
I
know
that
city
clerk
Nicole
Bolden,
was
there
as
well.
D
So
for
my
part,
I
wanted
to
just
review
some
of
the
panels
that
I
attended
and
then,
if
anybody
would
like
more
information
on
any
of
those,
if
you
can
feel
free
to
contact
me
so
the
first
one
was
the
mental
health
impact
of
the
opioid
epidemic
and
how
communities
are
facing
that
challenge.
So
this,
of
course,
is
an
important
topic
for
us,
as
well
as
for
other
communities.
D
J
D
Presentation
by
an
agency
called
remedy
live.
They
do
presentations
to
school
children
across
the
state
and
kind
of
getting
at
the
root
of
why
kids
might
be
interested
in
trying
opiates
or
seeking
to
fill
some
kind
of
void
in
their
life.
D
We
heard
from
various
Indiana
communities
about
how
they
used
residential
tiffs,
Economic,
Development,
LED
funds,
land
Banks
other
strategies
and
we
were
introduced-
or
at
least
it
was
for
me.
It
was
new.
The
ihcda
in
the
state
of
Indiana
has
a
housing
dashboard
that
reports
availability
and
needs
in
that
sector.
Well
then,
the
next
day
there
were
a
couple
of.
D
Three
other
sessions
that
I
attended,
so
one
was
on
side,
ordinance,
ordinances
and
actually
there
was
a
Monroe
County
legal
case
that
was
cited
there,
that
the
the
basic
upshot
of
the
legal
cases
that
have
been
brought
against
municipalities
that
have
tried
to
restrict
signs.
D
Then
we
had
an
interesting
presentation
about
youth
councils.
Several
cities
and
towns
in
Indiana
have
youth
councils
a
way
to
get
young
people
to
participate
in.
K
D
D
And
then
we
did
hear
from
the
town
manager
and
police
chief
of
Cumberland
Indiana,
just
east
of
Indianapolis
about
their
Public
Safety
organizational
development
in
that
town
and
then,
on
the
last
day,
I
heard
about
South
Bend
proposed
or
has
a
program
to
support
minority
and
women-owned
business
enterprises.
So
mwbe.
D
D
So
that
was
very
interesting
as
well,
and
the
final
session
is
on
build
operate,
transfer
which
is
a
way
to
have
a
public
and
public-private
partnership
in
order
to
build
facilities
or
buildings
and
dlz
was
one
of
the
presenters
there
and
you
may
be
familiar
with
that
name,
because
they
are
the
ones
hired
by
Monterey,
County
to
to
scope
out
and
design
the
new
jail.
D
D
D
In
that
meeting,
but
throughout
the
conference,
I
could
really
perceive
a
marked
difference
between
the
interests
and
concerns
of
people
in
second
class
cities,
elected
representatives
in
second-class
cities,
so
the
larger
cities
of
35,
000
or
more,
which
Bloomington
of
course
has
won
and,
on
the
other
hand,
the
third
class
cities
and
the
towns
which
are
much
smaller,
have
a
different
form
of
government.
They
have
a
clerk,
Treasurer
or
town
manager.
So
it's
a
very
different
structure
and
I.
Think
those
council
members
have
a
different
set
of
concerns
as
they
go
about
their
jobs.
D
So
the
of
course
there
were
vendors
lots
of
little
tchotchkes,
give
them
away,
and
overall
it
was
a
great
networking
opportunity
and
I
would
recommend
it
or
any
council
members
in
the
future.
So
that's
my
report.
Thank
you.
So
much
thank.
C
You
councilmember
Piedmont
Smith
council,
member
Piedmont,
Smith
and
clerk
Bolden
both
attended
the
aim
conference,
as
she
mentioned,
and
clerk
Bolden
asked
for
the
opportunity
to
just
tack
on
and
share
some
additional
updates,
while
we're
still
talking
about
Aim,
so
clerk
Bolden.
If
you
would.
A
Please
good
evening,
so
what
I
would
like
to
add
to
council
member
Piedmont
Smith's
report
is
a
little
more
context
about
aim.
A
Originally,
let
me
see
it
was
founded
in
the
1890s
in
the
60s
is
when
they
shifted
to
their
name
of
Indiana
Association
of
cities
and
towns
and
in
2017
is
when
they
rebranded
as
accelerate
Indiana
municipalities.
But
bottom
line
aim
has
been
advocating
for
Indiana
municipalities,
since
its
founding
and
its
statement
of
purpose
is
to
Foster,
promote
and
advocate
for
the
success
of
hoosier
municipalities
as
Laboratories
of
innovation,
hubs
of
talent
and
the
engines
driving
our
state's
economy.
A
What
that
means
in
practice
is
that
they
collaborate
with
state
legislators
and
corporate
members
to
ensure
expertise
and
experience
is
leveraged
for
the
benefit
of
all,
so
they
offer
over
On
Any
Given
year.
I
think
you're
going
to
see
about
a
hundred
different
trainings
workshops
and
webinars
offered
for
ongoing
education.
That
includes
cles,
so
at
the
aim
ideas
Summit
this
year
every
day
that
there
were
workshops.
Some
of
those
workshops
were
also
continuing
legal
education,
which
is
enormously
helpful
for
a
lot
of
Municipal
attorneys,
who
still
have
their
ongoing
requirements
for
education.
A
This
year
there
were
over
1
000
attendees
at
the
summit
for
an
over
30
workshops.
There
were
affiliate
group
meetings
at
that
time,
so
the
Council
of
Mayors
met
the
executive
committee
of
the
clerk's
League
met,
as
you
all
know,
I'm
the
vice
president
right
now
for
that
I
have
no
idea.
I
wrote
an
abbreviation
and
I
honestly,
don't
know
what
it
stands
for
so
I'm
going
to
ignore
that
one
and
go
on
to
imla,
which
is
the
municipal
attorneys
group
as
well.
A
So
for
me,
in
a
nutshell,
I
started
with
the
board
of
directors
meeting
because
I'm
on
the
board
of
directors
and
then
I
have
the
executive
committee
meeting
for
the
clerk's
league
and
then
I
went
to
workshops
on
Cyber,
Security,
First,
Amendment
audits,
algorithms,
public
art,
employment
law,
crisis
Communications,
which
was
presented
by
mayor
Myers
from
Greenwood,
Indiana
and
they're,
discussing
the
shooting
that
happened
there
last
year
and
then
Street
beautification
for
all
of
the
workshops
that
were
offered.
There
are
presentations
available.
A
H
First,
I
want
to
report
that,
after
the
final
budget
week,
hearing
last
Thursday
I
walked
outside
the
building
to
discover
that
the
lock
securing
my
trike
had
been
cut
and
the
trike
stolen
I
want
to
thank
officer
Dorman
of
the
BPD
who
responded
and
worked
the
case
quickly
and
managed
to
recover
the
trike
largely
intact.
The
next
day,
I
appreciated
his
professionalism
and
I've
ordered
a
better
lock.
H
H
While
it's
a
term
we've
used
very
rarely
in
my
time
on
Council
when
speaking
to
an
issue
Roberts
and
other
Rules
of
Order
describe
any
person
as
rising
to
speak
Committees
of
council,
don't
just
report.
They
rise
and
Report.
Thanks
to
the
microphones
on
the
Deus
council,
members
have
almost
always
been
given
reports
or
spoken
to
any
issue
while
remaining
seated
it's
this
Podium,
from
which
we've
receive
the
vast
majority
of
reports
and
comment
from
the
administration,
petitioners
and
members
of
the
public.
It
requires
most
speakers
to
rise
to
report.
H
While
council
members
frequently
assert
their
desire
to
respect
public
comment.
This
Podium
does
not
exactly
encourage
it.
It's
clear
that
this
chamber
was
designed
to
be
a
flexible
space
to
be
used
for
many
different
purposes.
That
is
to
be
commended,
but
even
though
we
have
a
fixed
Deus
and
the
executive
and
the
legislative
desks
are
fixed
so
as
to
accommodate
I.T
equipment,
this
Podium
is
not
fixed.
H
It
was
designed
to
be
turned
to
face
the
audience
for
Less
formal
meetings
or
to
be
moved
to
the
center
of
the
room
for
more
formal
addresses
to
an
audience.
Nevertheless,
it's
Prime
function
is
for
others
to
address
counsel,
and
to
that
end
it
is
not
as
respectful
of
the
public
as
I
know.
We
all
want
it
to
be,
because
we
want
to
ensure
that
we
spell
speakers
names
right.
H
We
have
a
sign-in
sheet
right
here,
there's
only
so
much
room
for
it
and
whatever
notes
a
speaker
may
bring
on
this
Podium
and
the
top
of
this
Podium
offers
little
room
for
notes.
Although
it
seems
to
be
a
comedy
to
my
laptop
for
the
moment
when
we
ask
people
to
sign
in
at
the
podium
before
or
after
they
speak,
it
prevents
us
from
hearing
the
next
speaker
wasting
a
little
of
everyone's
time
for
those
in
wheelchairs.
H
H
We
have
in
recent
years
become
more
cognizant
of
how
much
time
people
have
to
address
us,
but
the
first
Solutions
were
to
require
speakers
to
break
eye
contact
with
those
behind
the
Deus
to
look
up
at
a
huge
screen
above
them
the
most
respectful
way
to
show
speakers
their
time
remaining
is
a
clock
at
the
same
level,
and
it's
not
actually
working.
You
didn't
set
the
time
off
at
the
same
level
as
where
their
notes
might
be
there.
We
go.
That's
why,
as
president
at
the
beginning
of
2020,
I
requested
this
monitor
be
installed.
H
As
well
as
a
second
control
panel
on
the
Deus,
so
that
the
officers
of
the
meeting
and
not
just
whoever
was
sitting
at
the
executive
desk,
no
offense
Mr
Lucas
could
control
the
equipment
in
the
room.
While
this
graph
did
monitor
at
last
provides
speakers
a
more
respectful
indicator
of
their
time
remaining,
it
only
became
fully
operational
last
month.
It
should
not
have
taken
three
and
a
half
years
to
make
such
a
simple
change.
H
It's
time,
we
rethink
it
in
the
name
of
spatial
flexibility.
The
compromise
of
this
room
and
the
dated
design
of
this
Podium
undermine
those
who
would
speak
here
as
well
as
being
a
stumbling
block
to
more
efficient
meetings.
We
could
and
should
have
a
separate,
smaller
Podium
off
to
the
side
for
speakers
to
sign.
H
In
frankly,
we
could
do
worse
and
to
permanently
replace
this
Podium
with
a
desk
or
a
table
straight
or
curved,
such
as
we
see
in
Congress
and
many
other
bodies,
there's
no
particular
need
or
value
in
requiring
speakers
to
stand
before
this
Deus.
A
desk
would
more
equally
accommodate
speakers
of
any
size
or
ability
and
allow
space
on
top
for
a
speaker's
laptop
and
then
some
as
well
as
a
less
complicated,
less
expensive,
monitor
setup
than
this
in
the
same
way
as
the
control
panels.
H
It's
time
we
consider
putting
an
end
to
making
anyone
here
have
to
rise
to
report.
It
didn't
occur
to
me
until
preparing
these
remarks
that
this
topic
might
be
one
for
the
coming
committee
on
Council
processes
to
consider,
but
I
believe
it
might
be
appropriate
to
add
to
its
agenda.
That's
it
for
my
report.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
and
that
was
everybody
great
great
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
reports
from
the
mayor
and
city
offices
nor
from
Council
committees.
Is
that
correct,
that'll
bring
us
to
our
first
of
two
periods
of
public
comment.
May
I
have
a
show
of
hands
in
Chambers
of
those
who
would
like
to
offer
public
comment.
I
see
one
Mr
Lucas.
Can
you
extend
our
invitation
on
Zoom,
please,
and
if
you
would
like
to
approach
the
podium,
please
do.
M
Yes,
if
members
of
the
public
would
like
to
offer
comment,
please
use
the
raise
hand
feature
in
Zoom
to
alert
alert
us.
You
can
find
that
raise
hand
feature
under
your
control
bar
by
clicking
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab.
You
can
also
send
a
chat
to
the
host
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak.
C
L
Minutes,
that's
cool,
I'm,
happy
I'm,
happy
I'm,
happy
the
Heat's
about
over.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
I've
seen
the
weatherman
a
while
ago,
70
degrees
man.
It's
been
a
killer
last
two
or
three
weeks
and
I'm
pretty
happy
it's
getting.
It's
gonna
be
getting
cool,
I'm
stoked
I'm
happy,
but
you
know
I'm
also.
You
know
some
other
things
here
see
here.
I
got
a
few
little
items
here.
I'm
glad
I
got
five
minutes.
I
had
three
last
time.
Is
it
gonna
be
five
from
now
on?
L
Kirkwood
and
Ale
by
the
cemetery
I
don't
know
if
anybody
drives
that
or
not
if
you're
going
east
on
Kirkwood
and
you
come
down
Kirkwood
to
Elm
Street
that
big
speed
bump,
it's
not
a
it's,
not
a
real
speed
boat,
but
there's
something
going
across
there
and
you
hit
that
thing.
It
feels
like
the
front
of
your
car
is
going
to
come
out
from
underneath
your
car
and
I
called
the
street
department.
L
I've
got
a
buddy
that
runs
a
business
here
in
town
kind
of
south
of
on
South
Walnut,
and
you
know
he
deals
in
cars
and
stuff
like
that
and
it's
out
of
control.
He
has
people
sleeping
in
his
cars
defecating
all
over
the
place,
he's
all
time,
picking
up
their
trash
needles.
It's
really
out
of
hand.
I've
seen
it
over
the
last
few
years
get
a
lot
worse.
L
No
new
jail,
we
don't
need
one,
we
don't
need
new
jail,
we
need
to
go
here
and
let
the
non-violent
people
out
I
know
we
got
a
system
that
we
gotta
everybody's
got
to
have
their.
You
know,
do
their
thing
when
they
break
the
crime
or
do
the
crime
they've
got
to
pay
Society
their
debt,
but
man
we
got
to
let
the
non-violent
ones
out.
We
got
a
lot
of
players
on
the
street
that
need
to
be
up
there.
We
need
to
make
some
room
no
new
jail.
L
I've
dealt
with
this
jail,
you
know
the
the
best
thing
I've
seen
happen
when
that
this
this
account
I'm
going
into
a
County
area.
Okay,
it's
the
county
jail,
but
when
they,
when
they
made
it
to
where
they
have
to
give
people
mattresses
when
they
go
into
when
they
go
into
the
when
they
first
arrest
and
they
take
in
it
Dana.
Locking
that
thing
and
lock
you
down
the
mattresses,
they
give
that's
a
good
thing
used
to
no
mattress.
They
slept
on.
They
slept
on
concrete
floors.
L
And
another
County
compliment
I'm
at
the
city.
I
understand
you
know:
I
go
up
to
the
Courthouse
about
once
every
couple
weeks
and
I
go
into
the
court
and
I
kind
of
said
I'm,
you
know,
try
to
go
there
and
see.
What's
going
on
and
I
had
some
interactions
with
Valerie
Houghton
and
man,
that's
the
best
judge.
We've
had
for
years.
L
Besides
the
kalims
and
Baker
that
Valerie,
how
my
daughter
was
in
here,
like
I,
say
she's
in
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
man
I
was
totally
amazed
of
how
Humane
Valerie
Houghton
was
to
my
daughter
and
everybody
else
had
come
in
here.
It's
a
breath
of
pressure,
I
love,
seeing
that
man
she
does
a
great
job,
Jim
Sims
man,
Ron,
Smith,
Jim
I-
would
love
to
see
you
run
for
mayor
I
wish
you
would
have
this
year.
Susan
did
I
wish
she
could
have
got
in
there.
L
C
N
Which
I
would
do
if
I
were
there
too,
because
time
has
changed
a
lot
in
the
last
50
years
for
me
and
I,
but
I
I
still
think
that
the
city
and
county
government
local
government
is
where
the
river
meets
the
road.
This
is
where,
where
people
where
our
democracy
has
got
to
shine,
and
so
I
appreciate
the
efforts
that
most
of
that
you
have
done
to
to
try
to
make
this
a
Humane
democracy
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
gone
at
the
time
that
I
was
elected
to
the
city
council
in
1971.
J
N
Speak
today
to
support
your
support
to
to
urge
you
to
support
the
city
clerk
and
the
in
getting
a
oh,
like
confidence
compensation
that
is,
that
is
in
keeping
with
the
rest
of
the
salaries
in
the
community
in
the
in
the
city.
It's
a
lot
of
work
and
it's
very
important
we're
keeping
those
books
and
I've.
O
N
A
lot
of
time
in
and
out
of
the
clerk's
office
over
the
last
10
years
since
I
was
on
the
city
council
in
the
County
Commission.
Just
our
history
is
in
those
books
again
they
have
to
be
kept
well
and,
and
access
has
to
be
given
to
anybody
who
wants
to
access
and
I
have
always
felt
that
the
county,
the
city
clerk
that
was
with
Regina,
and
it
definitely
is
with
with
Nicole
you'll.
N
C
N
C
C
A
Smith
we'll
come
back
in
a
second
scandalori,
yes,
Rallo.
B
C
A
Resolution
2316
calling
for
an
increase
to
the
salary
of
the
city
clerk
in
the
2024
budget.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows.
This
resolution
is
sponsored
by
council
member
Flaherty.
It
expresses
the
common
council's
intent
to
increase
the
salary
for
the
city
clerk
in
that
regard,
the
resolution
request
that
the
mayor
pursue
any
necessary
and
appropriate
action
to
effectuate
the
increase
as
part
of
the
2024
City
budget.
A
P
You
this
is
a
pretty
simple
resolution
and
was
well
summarized
in
the
description.
I
would
go
through
just
a
little
bit
of
background
and
some
details
about
it.
Edith,
of
course,
not
not
a
binding
piece
of
legislation.
It
is
a
endeavoring
to
express
the
council's
intent
and
wishes
with
respect
to
the
the
budget
and
appropriation
ordinances.
P
I
will
note
that
as
the
whereas
Clauses
specify,
we
of
course
do
have
the
statutory,
Duty
and
and
ability
to
set
fix
the
salaries
fix
the
annual
compensation
for
elected
City
officers,
including
the
city
clerk,
but
recognizing
that
that
also
requires
Appropriations
to
back
fixed
salaries.
I
think
the
more
appropriate
way
to
pursue
this
was
to
have
a
formal
expression
of
the
council's
intent
and
request
to
the
mayor
with
respect
to
changes
that
would
be
needed
to
the
salary
ordinance,
the
relevant
salary
ordinance
and
appropriation
ordinance
to
effectuate
this
change.
P
We
just
went
through
budget
hearings,
a
that
was
last
week
and
heard
from
the
city
clerk
about
about
her
office
and
department,
and
that
and
her
role
at
that
time,
noting
that
the
the
clerk's
office
functions
very
similarly
to
what
we
would
call
City
departments
in
the
Civil
City
budget,
those
that
are
under
under
the
purview
of
the
mayor's
Administration.
P
My
feeling
is
that
both
the
the
city
council
office
and
the
the
clerk's
office
are,
in
fact,
independent
departments
that
we
should
be
thinking
about
the
folks
who
had
those
departments
as
department
heads,
that's
acknowledged
in
the,
whereas
Clauses
here
and
essentially,
along
with
other
changes
that
were
already
incorporated
into
the
budget
with
respect
to
the
Council
Office.
P
This
seeks
to
address
what
I,
what
I
feel
is
an
inequity
with
respect
to
how
we've
compensated
these
positions
historically
and
bring
us
to
to
a
level
more
in
line
with
with
the
department
heads.
So
the
number
that
is
requested
within
the
resolution
as
drafted
is
104
000
89
dollars,
which
matches
the
step
that
that
we
had
also
requested
or
individual
members
had
requested
of
the
mayor.
With
respect
to
the
council
office,
again,
people
might
think
about
those
offices
differently.
P
For
me,
the
dispositive
data
point
or
question
was
respect
to
whether
or
not
we
should
think
of
these.
These
offices,
as
departments
or
not
I,
know
that
the
council
memo
also
attached
some
some
salaries
from
Clerk's
offices
around
the
state.
P
But
I
would
just
reiterate
that
that
my
perspective
is
that
there
are
systematic
ways
in
which
we've
undervalued
the
position
and
not
considered
it
appropriately
and
so
I
consider
the
benchmarking
value
of
those
to
be
minimal
personally,
which
is,
which
is
what
led
me
to
request
the
amount
that
the
resolution
has
I'm
happy
to
answer,
questions
about
that
or
also
turn
it
over
to
to
staff
or
the
clerk
herself.
If
others
have
comments.
F
Yes,
the
amendment
is
composed
of
the
following
the
second,
whereas
clause
in
resolution
2316
shall
be
deleted
in
its
entirety.
The
third,
whereas
clause
in
resolution
2316
shall
be
amended
by
deleting
the
words
and
with
a
supervisory
role.
Parallel
to
that
of
numerous
period
department,
heads
and
staff
members
overseeing
the
legal
department,
Human
Resources
department
and
Council
Office.
F
The
third
portion
of
the
amendment
is
that
the
fourth
Warehouse
clause
in
resolution,
2316,
shall
be
amended
by
deleting
the
words
quote,
is
not
commensurate
with
that
of
other
department
heads
within
the
city
and
and
number
four.
The
last
Wares
clause
in
resolution
2316
shall
be
amended
by
replacing
the
amount
of
one
hundred
and
four
thousand
eighty
nine
dollars
with
the
amount
of
eighty
seven
thousand
dollars
and
resolution
2316
section.
One
shall
be
amended
by
replacing
the
amount
of
104
089
dollars
with
the
amount
of
eighty
seven
thousand
dollars.
F
Shall
I
present
the
amendment?
Well,
let
me
first
say
that
I
have
points
of
agreement
with
council
member
Flaherty
and
I
appreciate
his
presenting
this
resolution.
F
The
the
points
of
agreement
I
have
is
that
I
believe
we
should
express
our
intent
intention
that
points
out
a
deficiency
here
in
salary,
and
my
second
point
is
that
I
agree
with
the
that
the
clerk's
position
salary
should
be
adjusted,
how
I
differ,
and
what
the
amendment
addresses
is
that
council,
member
Flaherty
determines
that
the
clerk's
office
is
equivalent
to
an
administrative
department
head
and
I
explored
that
proposition
of
the
that
equivalency
and
I.
Don't
agree
for
the
following
reasons:
it
is
an
elected
position.
F
Number
one
does
not
work
for
the
mayor
number
two.
The
work
is
very
different
in
terms
of
the
various
initiatives
and
projects
and
the
and
and
actually
the
general
size
of
the
office,
which
is
even
the
smallest
apartment,
is
twice
the
size
of
the
clerk's
office
and
I
agree
that
the
clerk
sets
budgets
and
reviews
payrolls,
but
so
do
divisions
of
Public
Works,
for
instance,
so,
for
instance,
the
division
of
animal
care
and
control
does
the
same.
F
F
F
Would
you
present
the
table
that
was
provided
by
HR
department,
and
this
is
the
one
that
was
sent
to
council
that
it
was
referred
to
by
council
member
Flaherty
and
what
it
shows
is
we
had
a
evaluation
of
sellers
in
2016-17
that
included
elected
offices,
and
this
displays
pure
cities,
is
determined
by
the
inquiry
of
the
of
the
consultiers
consulting
firm.
F
That
asked
the
various
holders
of
jobs
in
the
city
what
their
positions
consisted
of,
and
so
they
found
that
these
were
equivalent
cities
and
what
the
HR
department
did
is
compensated
for.
The
time
elapsed,
by
increasing
the
salaries
by
10
percent
and
found
that
the
average
in
the
median
was
approximately
70
75
76
thousand
dollars.
F
F
At
the
at
the
top
to
Fort
Wayne
and
then
displaying
the
the
salaries
and
I
think,
one
thing
we
is
generally
known
is
that
there
is
variability
among
Clerk's
duties,
but
what
I
found
was
that
various
clerks
have
duties
that
exceed
those
expected
of
Bloomington,
so,
for
instance,
Westfield
and
Columbus,
for
instance,
have
Clerk
Treasures
and
the
treasurer
is
essentially
the
controller
of
the
city
and
so
essentially
keeps
track
and
presents
City
finances.
F
F
In
that
time,
I
offered
I
thought
a
compensation
of
87
000
was
appropriate
and
I
think
that
you
know
this
essentially
serves
to
ameliorate
the
discrepancy
that
we
see
currently
clearly
the
the
clerk
is
making
less
than
than
the
office
deserves,
but
it
also
this
is
a
highly
unusual
situation.
I
want
to
say,
because
I've
never
done
this-
this
is
generally
left
to
HR
department.
F
It's
a
generally
evaluated
by
an
outside
consultant
in
in
collaboration
with
the
HR
department,
to
determine
salaries.
In
fact,
there
is
an
ongoing
salary
evaluation
going
on
right
now
it
doesn't
include
elected
officials.
F
So
it's
highly
unusual
in
that
regard
and
I
thought
this
is
a
very
good
compensation.
It
seems
to
me
relative
to
other
cities,
and
it
is
in
terms
of
the
deliberative
process
that
might
occur
in
the
future.
I
think
that
it
might
go
you
know,
then
we
might
recommend
that
the
HR
department
have
a
consultant
evaluate
the
salary
for
any
further
increases
in
the
future
relative
to
the
to
the
duties
that
they
evaluate,
because
we're
not
in
the
position
of
doing
that
very
well.
F
I
do
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
think
that
if
we
do
set
the
salary
high,
we're
obligated
to
pay
that
I
think
statutorily,
we
can't
cut
it
in
the
future
and
so
I
think
we
ought
to
be
have
some
discretion
here
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
we
do
so
in
a
in
a
in
a
in
in
a
in
a
way
that
puts
us,
of
course,
in
a
very
competitive
situation
relative
to
other
clerks,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
it's
within
the
you
know
the
relative
comparative
salaries,
so
I
think
that's
all
I
have
to
present
my
co-sponsor
council,
president
campbelluri
might
have
a
few
words
to
to
add
but
I'm
open
to
questions.
C
H
H
This
Market
is
a
more
expensive
Market,
at
least
for
housing
than
even
Carmel,
let
alone
Fort
Wayne
or
any
place
else.
What
do
you
say
to
that?
The
fact
that
the
cost
of
living
is
higher
here.
F
H
F
H
Me
turn
the
questions
in
Clark
Bolden.
What
what
say
you.
A
Cost
of
living
it
actually
varies
from
second
class
City
to
second
class
City.
So,
while
Lafayette
has
a
difference
of
two
percent,
you
can
look
at
Noblesville
or
Fishers
or
Fort
Wayne
NC
rates
as
high
as
9.5
percent
difference.
So
if
you're
looking
at
the
average
of
second-class
cities
who
are
actually
clerks
and
not
clerk,
treasurers
as
they
are
in
Westfield
and
Columbus,
then
you
would
actually
see
a
much
higher
average
per
salary
if
you
account
for
the
cost
of
living
difference
in
Bloomington,
as
opposed
to
say.
H
Mr
Lucas
I
note
that
the
ordinance
that
fixes
the
salaries
for
elected
officials
is
not
an
appropriation
ordinance.
Does
that
mean
that
Council
can
increase
the
figures
on
that
form?
Does
that
an
ordinance
that
has
to
originate
from
the
mayor's
office.
M
M
On
the
question
of
whether
the
council
could
amend
the
numbers
on
that
form,
my
opinion
is
yes,
although
there
are
practical
limitations
in
how
Bloomington
has
historically
taken
up
budget
legislation
that
would
make
doing
so.
Alongside
with
the
vote
on
the
budget,
appropriation
ordinance
difficult.
Essentially,
the
budget
would
have
already
been
submitted
to
the
state.
The
ability
to
make
adjustments
both
by
the
council
and
the
administration
would
be
more
constrained
than
than
at
this
point
in
time.
Yes,.
H
But
the
administration
regularly
brings
if
at
least
one,
if
not
two
reversion
ordinances
every
year,
surely
they
can
fill
in
the
difference,
for
what,
in
this
case
would
be
seventeen
thousand
dollars
I
think
that's
a
doable
I
have
another
question
for
councilman
Morello
I
have
heard
from
several
of
my
colleagues
that
Bloomington
is
special
and
so
that's
why,
for
example,
we
didn't
adopt
something
like
committees.
H
F
Well,
I'm,
not
sure
I
agree
with
your
premise:
the
HR
department
determines
that
to
be
in
the
median
range.
The
the
salary
increase
should
be
to
76
000.
I'm,
proposing
87
000..
So
it's
at
the
high
end
of
the
respective
Clerk's
positions,
excluding
those
that
have
special
duties
like
courts
or
as
as
equivalent
to
controllers.
H
But
I
mean
the
argument.
Your
argument
sort
of
implies
that
we
are
just
enough
not
even
just
another
department
of
the
Hamilton
Administration,
if
we're
adopting
their
HR
policies
and
we're
not
a
separately
elected
body
and
the
clerk's
office
is
not
represented
by
a
separately
elected
person.
Are
the
clerk
in
the
council
offices
a
part
of
the
administration
or
separate
from
it?
And
does
that
mean
it's
unacceptable
for
us
to
have
separate
HR,
I.T
and
even
legal
policies
than
the
administration
would
have.
F
Well,
that's
a
that's
a
question
that
we
can
debate:
I'm,
I'm
I'm,
not
certain
I
mean
heretofore.
We
have
followed
the
HR
recommendation
for
both
civil
City
and
the
elected
offices
in
terms
of
their
recommendation
for
for
salary
adjustments.
Okay,.
B
H
H
Does
that
make
a
case
that
we
have
been
consistently
underpaid
for
the
entire
time
you
and
I
have
been
on
Council?
Why
did
that
change.
F
Again,
that's
a
that's
a
discussion
that
I
think
maybe
beyond
the
scope
of
what
we're
just
discussing
here,
but
I
I
think
as
as
elected
office
holders,
and
we
make
a
judgment
whether
to
run
for
the
office
in
terms
of
compensation,
but
also
in
terms
of
our
desire
to
to
manifest
certain
policies
and
to
serve
so
I.
Think
that
it
is.
It
is
a
different
position.
It's
different
than
department
heads.
F
We
just
went
through
a
budget
where
the
department
has
displayed
a
variety
of
different
policy
proposals.
Various
initiatives,
different
projects
that
they're
working
on
that
are
in
some
ways
extremely
complex
and
complicated
I'm,
not
saying
that
we
don't
have
something
that
our
our
positions
don't
have
complexity,
but
I
think
that
they
in
terms
of
com,
comparing
the
the
type
of
work.
F
I
F
No,
we
we
have
off.
We
have
offered
resolutions
in
the
past
requesting
salary
increases.
We
did
so
a
few
years
ago
for
the
police.
So
it's
not
unprecedented,
but
this
is
a.
This
is
a
significant
salary
increase
I've,
never
requested
such
a
large
amount
in
terms
of
a
salary
increase.
I've,
never
seen
that
requested
and
21
years
right.
I
When,
in
your
discussions
with
HR,
did
they
did
HR
say
that
they
would
do
another
analysis
of
elected
officials
so
that
we
could
have,
since
none
of
us
are
in
the
HR
business
up
they're
up
here
on
the
diocese,
did
they
offer
anything
about
whether
that
would
be
something
that
could
be
done
so
that
we
could
understand?
You
know
their
analysis
well,.
F
I
I
didn't
inquire
about
the
current
evaluation
of
the
Civil
city.
Employees.
It
is
Crow
and
Associates
is
doing
the
analysis
now
Mr
Lucas,
it's
my
it
was
we
inquired.
We
found
that
they
are
not
including
elected
officials
in
that
analysis,
I
suppose
that
we
could
request
it,
but
right
now
they
are
not.
Is
that
my
understanding
is
that
correct.
J
M
Particular
question
that
was
simply
relevant
information:
they
they
shared
from
the
previous
salary
study,
updating
it
with
2022
salary
amounts
and
factoring
in
a
an
increase
for
the
next
two
years.
My
understanding
is
that
the
current
ongoing
salary
study
does
not
include
elected
officials,
I,
don't
know
whether
it
could
at
this
point
I
know,
they've
been
conducting
that
study
over
the
course
of
several
months,
so
that
may
be
something
to
to
reach
out
to
them
about.
If
that's
the
the
will
of
the
council.
F
Could
I
add
that
I
did
speak
to
the
mayor
last
Friday
and
he
recommended
that
this
be
a
matter
that
was
done
in
an
objective
fashion
with
consultant
and
HR.
However,
this
process
was
essentially
initiated
with
some
discussion
with
the
mayor's
office.
I
understand
that
the
mayor
is
open
to
suggestions
from
the
council.
I
I
do
believe
that
the
Clerk's
position
is
undervalued
in
terms
of
relative
to
other
clerks
in
the
state,
and
that
should
be
ameliorated
right
away
without
waiting
so
I'm
in
favor
of
an
increase,
so
I'm
I'll
leave
it
there.
C
M
C
N
Please
go
ahead.
Thank
you
very
much
for
letting
me
speak
again.
I
appreciate
that
as
I.
Listen
to
you
in
this
discussion,
I
understand
that
that
the
comparison
with
other
communities
and
so
forth
and
silver
and
I
do
think
that
we
have
to
have
a
verifiable
data
to
to
back
up
any
requests.
We
have
in
the
use
of
money.
I
think
that's
very
important.
I
do
want
to
say
this.
We
are
in
Bloomington
Indiana,
where
we
have
a
huge
number
of
students.
In
case
you
haven't
noticed.
You
know
you.
N
We
have
an
unusually
we
unbalanced
citizenship
here
and
and
that's
we
see
a
lot
of
demand
in
the
clerk's
office,
specifically
that
that
is
engendered
by
activities
of
the
students
and
and
the
fact
that
we
have
a
low
income.
Very,
very
high
hybrid
rate
of
housing
prices
here
and
there
are
very
little
for
affordable.
Housing
also
creates
a
special
demand.
So
even
the
numbers.
N
The
numbers,
sorry
about
that
the
numbers
are
not
the
same
numbers
from
one
city
to
the
other.
Lafayette
is
not
like
Bloomington
and
Columbus
is
not
like
Bloomington
and
South.
Bend
isn't
even
like
we
need
to.
We
have
a
special
nature
of
our
constituency
that
I
think
impacts
the
clerk's
office
quite
greatly.
N
C
Q
Name
is
Jamie
Scholl
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
I
want
to
express
my
appreciation
for
council
member
Flaherty's
strive
for
equity
and
bringing
this
up
this
question
about,
compensating
appropriately
for
the
position.
I
also
like
to
appreciate
semi-appreciation
to
Clark
Bolden
for
the
good
work
that
she's
done.
Q
This
has
been
a
really
interesting
discussion.
I've
listened
to
some
of
this
in
the
meetings
last
week
and
recording,
and
it's
been
interesting
to
consider.
If
this
position
is
a
department
head
or
not,
I've
I've
wondered
how
much
technology
has
changed.
The
position
since
I
was
more
active
and
got
to
know
the
previous
person
who
held
this
position.
Q
I
am
in
wanting
to
keep
this
position
in
alignment
with
those
in
the
state
that
have
similar
responsibilities.
Although
I
know
that
there
will
be
a
difference
because
Bloomington
is
has
some
things
going
on,
that's
different
than
other
locations
in
the
state
as
well.
I
checked
out
the
website.
It
looks
like,
like
the
marriages,
isn't
aren't
there
anymore
or
that
will
be
coming
back.
I
wasn't
quite
sure.
Q
So
that's
the
duty,
that's
possibly
not
being
held
up
as
it
used
to
be
and
having
been
a
federal
employee
before
I
know
that
the
cost
of
living,
if
there's
a
cost
of
living
increase,
that's
really
great
I,
don't
remember
if
other
people
in
the
city
have
gotten
that,
but
I
know
as
a
once
federal
employee
that
we
had
a
baseline
for
my
GS
level.
Q
That
then,
was
moderated
by
the
by
the
amount
that
it
costs
to
comfortably
comfortably
live,
and
at
that
time
it
was
in
San
Francisco,
so
I'm
all
for
getting
the
salary
up
to
a
certain
level
and
then
seeing
what
the
cost
of
living
would
be
to
make.
This
really
accurately
reflect
what
the
what
the
position
really
does.
C
E
I
would
like
to
speak
in
favor
of
resolution,
20
23
16
at
the
amount
of
104,
000
and
change
I,
don't
know
the
exact
amount
anymore,
oh
89
dollars
and
I
I
do
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
I've
heard
a
lot
tonight
about
the
department
head,
sort
of
conversation,
the
duties
involved
in
sort
of
executing
this
position
and
a
host
of
other
things
and
I
think
the
thing
that
I
just
do
want
to
sort
of
emphasize
is
that
we
do
often
think
about
Bloomington
as
unique
or
special
for
lots
of
reasons,
and
we
pride
ourselves
on
that
and
I.
E
Think
it
it's.
When
we
look
at
some
recent,
like
data
and
polling
and
things
like
that,
Indiana
is
one
of
the
most
undesirable
places
to
live
in
the
United
States
right
now,
for
a
lot
of
reasons
we
are
coming
in,
you
know
just
behind
Florida
and
some
other
states
and
I
know.
That
seems
maybe
like
a
funny
thing
to
note,
but
I
do
think
that
we
in
Bloomington
have
always
said
that
we're
different
we're
special.
E
We
operate
differently
than
a
lot
of
the
other
parts
of
the
state,
and
so
I
do
kind
of
want
to
just
emphasize
that
in
this
time,
when
civil
service
is
hard
to
come
by
or
it's
hard
to
come
by,
people
who
are
really
willing
to
dig
into
this
kind
of
work,
I
think
that
we
should
be
paying
salaries
that
are
commensurate
with
you
know
both
the
the
sort
of
taking
on
of
that
kind
of
responsibility,
but
also
I,
think
just
in
terms
of
the
fact
that
the
housing
market
is
different
here.
E
We
know
that
we
do
look
unlike
many
other
second-class.
Oh,
what
is
it
seven
class
cities
in
the
state,
but
I
just
would
like
to
say
that
I
I
am
in
favor
of
this
resolution
and
I
also
think
that
we
should.
E
You
know
there's
there's
sort
of
a
lot
of
quibbling
about
these
specific
duties
like
not
this
duty,
but
this
Duty
not
this
duty,
but
that
Duty
and
it
seems
really
like
a
little
bit
of
semantics-
to
just
sort
of
cut
down
the
position
and
the
salary
rather
than
to
to
really
measure
the
job
by
any
other
clerk
position
in
the
state,
because
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
that
the
clerk's
position
is
going
to
vary
from
City
to
city
right.
E
It
doesn't
look
the
same
in
any
one
of
these
cities
and
there
will
be
duties
that
are
subtracted
or
added
every
time
we
we
take
into
account
what
a
city
court
is
doing
so
anyway,
with
that
said,
thank
you
so
much,
and
thanks
to
those
leading
the
charge
to
increase
the
salary
so
that
we're
more
Equitable
and
sort
of
more
desirable
to
to
be
in
this
particular
city
of
Wilmington.
Anyway,
thanks.
C
H
The
clerk's
office
is
an
independent
check
on
both
the
council
and
the
administration
without
the
clerk's
office.
If
the
council
were
allowed,
for
example,
to
take
minutes
of
its
own
meetings,
a
less
ethical
body
than
ours
could
betray
the
public
trust
by
changing
minutes
and
perhaps
even
votes,
there's
a
reason.
The
office
is
separately
elected.
H
We've
never
asked
ourselves
why
tonight
we're
asking
ourselves
that
this
is
in
fact
a
significant
salary
increase.
It's
also
not
the
Salient
point
of
the
resolution.
The
point
is
at
the
clerk's
office,
like
the
council,
is
a
full-fledged
Department
of
the
city
vital
to
the
operation
of
the
city,
without
whose
cooperation
legislation
cannot
legally
be
enacted.
H
Councilman
Moralo
hasn't
seen
such
a
salary
increase,
because
for
too
long
the
idea
of
the
clerk's
office
is
a
separate
Department,
wasn't
in
anyone's
Overton
window
during
his
entire
tenure.
That's
been
true,
but
former
councilmember
zitlow
is
living
proof
that
we
used
to
have
higher
standards
that
this
body
used
to
be
paid
more,
that
we
paid
a
better
wage
than
we
have
in
the
time
that
councilman,
ravalo
and
I
have
been
on
the
council
and.
A
H
If
we
can
set
a
standard
by
not
following
other
cities
in
other
ways,
we
can
set
a
standard
here,
we
can
send
a
message
that
this
job
across
the
state
deserves
a
compensation
that
will
allow
clerks
to
hire
the
staff
they
need
to
stay
competitive
in
a
job
market.
That's
never
been
tougher
in
a
hiring
Market
I
should
say,
has
never
been
tougher
to
keep
employees
who
are
generally
grossly
underpaid
and
who
take
that
huge
pay
cut
to
work
for
the
public
interest.
H
I
would
even
point
to
the
County
Commissioners,
who
insisted
the
same
thing
that
they
too
were
underpaid,
that
it
was
so
difficult
that
many
people
think
twice
about
running
for
commissioner,
because
it
pays
so
little
I
disagree
with
a
great
deal
of
things
that
the
County
Commissioners
have
decided.
But
on
this
point,
I
will
always
defend
them.
H
This
is
the
time
to
do
it
when
five
of
us
are
leaving,
we
might
as
well
do
it
for
the
generations
to
come,
and
that's
the
point
overall,
it
doesn't
matter
who
is
the
specific
person?
Is
it's
about
the
principle
behind
the
idea
that
yes,
the
clerk's
office's
Department,
as
surely
as
the
council's
office
is
a
department
of
the
city?
H
Why
are
we
allowing
the
city's
HR
department
to
determine
the
policies
of
separately
elected
officials,
we're
the
ones
who
should
be
deciding
independently
the
Mayors
and
the
clerk's
salaries
as
the
independent
body
that
we
are
I,
disagree,
I,
understand
and
I'm
sympathetic,
councilworrell
is
concerned,
but
I
disagree
with
this
amendment.
It
should
be
rejected.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you
I,
mentioned
earlier
in
presenting
the
resolution
initially,
that
my
view
is,
is
that
the
clerk's
office
is
a
department
and
that
we
should
treat
compensation
of
the
clerk
accordingly.
P
I
I
haven't
really
heard
a
compelling
reason.
Why
that's
not
true
from
anyone.
So
that's.
That's
still
my
view.
P
The
one
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
note
is
that
that
I
also
hinder
that
in
my
initial
remarks,
is
that
I
worry
that
benchmarking
to
existing
salaries
of
Clerks
in
other
cities
feeds
into
an
existing
systemic
inequity.
It
enshrines
it
by
embracing
that
as
the
standard
I
think,
the
position
is
probably
undervalued
and
historically
under
compensated
everywhere
and
and
so
yeah
I
I
just
again
questioned
the
utility
of
that
approach.
So
I
can't
where
these
support
the
resolution
or
sorry
this.
P
The
amendment,
though,
of
course,
if
it
passes,
would
support.
You
know
the
resolution
as
a
whole
as
a
step
forward,
that's
better
than
nothing.
C
See
none
I'll
finish
up
as
a
co-sponsor.
Obviously
I
support
this
amendment.
A
lot
of
this
discussion
seems
to
center
around
points
of
comparison
for
the
role
of
clerk.
C
Do
we
compare
the
role
to
other
department
heads?
Do
we
compare
it
to
peers
at
comparable
or
as
comparable
as
we
can
get
cities
elsewhere
in
the
state?
My
view
is
that,
for
benchmarking
purposes,
we
need
to
look
to
other
clerks
around
the
state
and
not
simply
to
our
department.
Heads
department
heads
just
as
a
matter
of
personnel
are,
are
recruited
and
hired
in
the
market.
They
are
not
elected
officials,
so
I
see
that
as
a
fundamental
difference.
This
has
nothing
to
do
in
my
mind
with
whether
or
not
someone
has
an
important
role.
C
Some
are
characterizing
this,
as
a
discussion
of
whether
or
not
the
clerk's
role
is
very
important.
Of
course
it
is
so
I
I.
Don't
see
that
as
figuring
into
this
decision
at
all,
I
do
agree
with
the
original
premise
of
the
original
resolution
that
this
position
is
under
compensated.
A
five
percent
raise
would
have
put
this
at
60
just
under
68
000.
That's
why
I
support
a
34
more
than
a
34
percent
increase
in
the
salary
I
do
believe
that
Bloomington
has
cost
of
living
issues.
C
That's
why
I'm
supporting
something
more
than
75
000
or
80
000?
That's
why
I'm
supporting
87
000.
so
again.
For
me,
the
point
of
comparison
is
most
appropriately
other
elected
officials
in
cities
that
are
comparable.
Is
there
ever
a
perfect
match,
probably
not
but
I
think
that
needs
to
inform
our
decision.
So
that's
my
point
of
view
is
any
additional
comment.
H
A
vote
for
this
resolution,
or
for
this
amendment
I,
should
say,
would
send
the
clear,
clear
message
that
the
clerk's
office
is
the
only
office
less
than
we
are
voting.
We
are
moving
to
ensure
that
our
department
head
will
be
paid
at
the
level
of
a
department
head,
but
we
are
pointedly
not
doing
so
for
an
office
that
is
demonstrably
a
department.
I
had
my
doubts
about
the
idea
that
the
clerk
and
council's
office
count
as
departments,
it's
easy
for
us
to
second-guess
ourselves
we're
elected
officials.
H
We
think
about
it
all
the
time
how
this
might
have
an
effect
on
the
way
people
perceive
us,
but
I've
been
persuaded
by
the
argument
that
we,
both
this
body
and
that
office,
are
both
full-fledged
Departments
of
the
city
that
are
required
for
the
functioning
of
the
city
and
not
be
hypocritical
for
us
to
vote
for
an
increase
for
our
department
head,
but
not
for
the
other
department.
H
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
agree
with
my
colleagues,
councilmember
Flaherty
and
Council
number.
One
I
am
in
favor
of
the
resolution
as
written
I
think
that
it
certainly
is
a
large
paying
freeze
as
written.
But
let's
recall
that
this
is,
after
years
of
neglect
of
the
compensation
for
this
position
and
to
say,
oh,
it's
too
big
a
leap
now
would
doesn't
doesn't
mean
that
that's
not
a
fair
salary.
D
The
problem
that
is
too
big
a
leap
is
because
we
haven't
been
paying
attention
to
it
for
decades,
but
the
salary
should
be
at
the
level
of
department.
Heads
I
do
feel
that
the
clerk's
office,
just
like
the
city
council
office,
our
departments,
and
we
should
be
able
to
get
well-qualified
candidates
from
a
broad
range
of
the
public
interested
in
this
position
and
at
the
current
salary
and
even
at
the
salary
proposed
here,
we
won't
get
the
best
applicants.
D
So
I
think
that,
of
course,
not
to
say
that
our
current
process
is
not
an
excellent
candidate.
D
D
Of
course,
if,
if
it's
passes,
despite
my
vote,
then
I
will
still
vote
in
favor
of
the
resolution,
since
I
feel
very
strongly
with
the
clerk
of
the
absolutely
substantial
ways
and
87
000
is
just
the
possibility.
Thank
you.
A
A
About
the
way
that
this
discussion
has
unfolded
overall,
that
said,
I
really
do
appreciate
the
consistency
with
which
council
members,
Rollin
and
rosenbarger
and
Flaherty
and
Piedmont
Smith
have
approached
the
issue
and
for
those
of
you
who
took
the
time
to
respond
to
my
phone
calls
I.
Thank
you
again.
A
This
is
awkward
and
embarrassing
and
difficult
to
be
talking
about
money
in
such
a
public
way,
and
so
sitting
back
in
this
I
will
say.
Thank
you
for
those
who
were
advocating
for
a
higher
salary.
Overall,
it
is
a
department
head.
There's
nobody
else
who
runs
the
department,
except
for
the
city,
clerk
I,
think
there's
a
vast
difference
between
asking
about
what
things
are
required
for
a
position
when,
realistically
anybody
who
comes
into
the
clerk's
role
knows,
there's
a
learning
curve
that
you
have
to
engage
in
rather
rapidly.
A
A
I'd
be
happy
to
do
a
whole
bunch
of
other
initiatives
through
the
clerk's
office,
but
I'm
also
somewhat
limited
by
code
and
by
Council,
and
last
I
would
like
to
remind
you
all
that
the
office
of
the
city
clerk
in
Bloomington
attends
several
more
hours
of
meetings
than
our
counterparts
and
produces
much
more
extensive
records
anyway.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
do
appreciate.
It
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
all
do
and
that's
it
for
this
amendment.
A
O
J
D
N
C
C
M
F
F
Yes,
as
amended,
thank
you.
Yes,
this
is
an
awkward
situation.
I've,
never
experienced
it
before
I
again.
I
think
that
my
preference
would
have
been
this.
This
is
a
HR
matter
with
an
objective
evaluation.
Instead
of
a
political.
What
seems
to
be
a
political
discussion?
I
know:
we've
received
a
lot
of
lobbying
for
the
high
salary
I'm
quite
struck
by
the
fact
that
this
is
a
33
increase,
and
it
seems
that
it's
deficient.
F
I'm
also
want
to
note
I
mean
just
for
the
record
that
this
places
the
the
clerk
within
the
top
quarter
of
all
clerk
salaries
within
the
state,
and
there
are
there-
are
qualitative
quantitative
differences
between
Clerk's
offices.
This
is
not
a
clerk
controller,
nor
is
there
a
court
included
in
terms
of
whether
to
determine
what
whether
or
not
this
is
equivalent
to
a
department
head
position.
I
would
invite
the
public
to
look
through
the
2024
budget,
where
there
is
a
demonstration
of
the
various
department
heads
in
terms
of
their
duties
and
responsibilities.
F
Look
at
those
look
at
the
clerk's
office
determine
for
yourself
if
those
duties
and
responsibilities
rise
to,
though
that
equivalency,
I,
I
I,
don't
see
it.
It's
not
to
say
that
the
clerk
is
not
an
important
position
for
the
city
and
doesn't
deserve
good
compensation.
That's
why
I
offered
the
amendment
to
make
sure
that
we
were
within
the
top
quarter
of
the
clerks
within
the
state,
but
for
those
who
believe
that
this
is
a
equivalent,
then
I'd
like
to
see
the
data.
F
So
there
was
various
references
to
data
I'd
like
to
see
it
in
terms
of
all
the
duties
that
the
particular
office
Compares
with
those
of
department
departmental
heads,
I,
don't
I,
don't
see
it.
Perhaps
they
do
so
it's
an
invitation,
and
this
might
be
a
matter
again
to
evaluate
further
next
year
with
an
independent
body
as
we
do
to
set
salaries.
This
is
really
the
the
most
probably
difficult
place
to
be
to
set
salaries.
I,
don't
think
that
the
council
is
equipped
to
do
that
to
evaluate
it.
F
P
Obviously,
I'm
disappointed
you
know
in
in
the
amount
we
settled
on,
but
we'll
support
the
the
resolution.
Let's
talk
a
little
bit
by
councilman
Morales
invitation
to
make
a
data
driven
case
for
why
the
positions
heading
to
what
I
would
call
Departments
of
the
city
are,
you
know,
are
in
fact
department
heads,
but
of
course
the
same
question
could
be
asked
in
Reverse.
What's
the
data-driven
case
to
say
they
are
not
and
I
don't
think
that
case
has
been
made
either.
P
I
know,
we've
pointed
to
salaries
of
other
clerks
in
other
cities,
but
that's
not
data
about
whether
or
not
someone
should
be
considered
a
department
head
to
me
that
that
should
be
the
default
and
starting
point
there's
a
presumption
that
if
you
had
a
department,
you're
a
department
head,
the
duties
and
responsibilities
vary
across
all
of
the
department
heads,
including
managing
staff.
P
From
just
you
know,
half
dozen
people
to
departments
that
extended
200
people
and
those
department
heads
are
compensated
roughly
the
same
with
some
very
minor
degree
of
difference
so
I.
You
know
this
is
philosophical
kind
of
at
some
level,
but
I
just
have
yet
to
hear
a
compelling
reason
why
somebody
is
not
a
department
head
who
heads
the
department
again,
the
closest
thing
anyone's
come.
P
I
spoke
to
the
mayor
about
this
was
invoked
by
councilman
earlier
this
evening,
is
sort
of
the
number
of
Staff
being
managed,
but
I
think
it
has
a
lot
more
to
do
with
the
scope
of
responsibility
and
and
I
think
again
that
that
favors,
the
way
I
see
this
with
respect
to,
but
the
council
office
and
the
clerk's
office
being
departments
the
deserve
compensation
for
the
folks
who
had
it
at
that
level.
Thanks.
H
My
colleague
says
he
prefers
that
this
would
be
an
HR
matter,
but
then
he
invites
us
to
look
at
other
department
heads
duties
anyway.
Well
it
sort
of
shows
that
either
he
hasn't
looked
at
other
departments,
duties
enough
to
make
a
determination
for
himself
or
I.
H
Don't
know
what
he's
saying
he's
making
it
about
how
much
work
the
office
does,
but
how
are
we
equipped
to
analyze
and
approve
a
230
million
dollar
budget
if
we
can't
Analyze
This
relatively
minor
data
point,
we've
certainly
done
research
on
much
less
significant
questions
with
a
great
deal.
More
data
I
have
had
to
look
at
parking
data
by
by
line
item
category
item
line
item
I
know
that
things
aren't
adding
up
in
the
public
works
department,
because
I've
actually
started
asking
questions
about.
Well,
what
are
we
spending
money
on
and
how?
H
H
Of
course,
we're
capable
of
analyzing
it
whether
we
feel
like
we
have
enough
time
to
do
it
or
not
as
another
matter,
but
maybe
that's
an
argument
why
we're
underpaid
as
well
the
less
we
pay
elected
officials,
the
less
incentive
they
have
to
do,
the
oversight
that
is,
and
always
has
been
our
duty,
we're
also
it's
true.
The
city
and
the
state
that
has
the
longest
meetings.
The
Herald
Times
did
quite
a
story
about
that.
We've
talked
about
that
plenty
of
times
before
the
increase.
Isn't
the
point.
H
H
The
same
should
be
good
for
the
clerk's
administrator,
who
is
the
clerk
I'll
be
voting
against
the
resolution,
because
I
know
that
we
can
change
the
salary
ordinance
itself
and
we
should
change
the
salary
ordinance.
The
administration
does
not
have
to
do
it.
The
ordinance
should
set
the
clerk's
salary
at
the
same
level
as
we
have
are
asking
for
our
own
department
head
I'll,
be
voting
no
on
the
resolution.
Thank
you.
D
C
B
J
C
C
J
A
Okay,
let's
see
here,
council
member
scandaluri,
yes,
Rallo,
yes,
Sandberg,
yes,
Smith!
Yes,.
B
A
Okay,
we'll
try
that
again
ordinance
2320
to
amend
title
12
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code
entitled
streets,
sidewalks
and
storm
sewers
regarding
establishing
a
new
section,
12.04.130
entitled
obstructing
the
right
of
way.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows:
ordinance
2320
clarifies
that
placing
obstructions
within
the
Public's,
right-of-way
or
otherwise,
obstructing
The
public's
right-of-way
is
impermissible
and
the
ordinance
defines
the
circumstances
under
which
the
right-of-way
is
considered
to
be
obstructed.
J
B
B
A
D
A
Ordinance
2321
to
amend
title
15
of
the
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
entitled
vehicles
and
traffic
regarding
amending
section
1532-150
to
remove
the
four-hour
limit
on
all
accessible
spaces.
The
synopsis
is
as
follows.
This
ordinance
approves
changes
to
Bloomington
Municipal
Code,
section
1532-150
in
order
to
include
a
time
limit
on
accessible
parking
spaces
only
in
parking
lots
or
zones
that
impose
time
limits
on
non-accessible
spaces
and
to
remove
time
limits
on
accessible
parking
spaces
in
parking,
lots
or
zones
that
do
not
otherwise
impose
time
limits.
C
M
O
Thank
you,
madam
president,
good
evening,
Council
distinguished
staff.
This
is
Christopher
Angie
from
the
greater
Bloomington
chamber
of
college.
Commerce
I
want
to
start
my
public
comments
with
a
hearty
thank
you
to
Mayor
Hamilton
and
his
administration
for
the
two
most
recent
appointments
to
the
capital,
Improvement
board
or
the
CID,
both
former
deputy
mayor,
Nick,
rissen.
No
stranger
to
this
Council
and
Associate
VP
of
capital
planning
at
IU.
Adam
peace
are
excellent
additions
to
this
seven
member
body.
The
current
six
members
will
now
decide
on
the
seventh
and
final
Point
e.
O
This
body
will
take
the
politics
out
of
decision
making,
allowing
the
process
to
move
forward
with
the
expansion
of
the
Monroe
County
Convention
Center.
The
chamber
wants
us
to
be
effective
in
a
timely
design
that
meets
the
needs
of
our
community.
We
have
the
utmost
confidence.
The
crb
will
provide
just
that
backing.
This
has
been
a
long
and
arduous
development.
Even
back
in
2017,
there
was
division
among
the
County
Council
passed
the
booty
beverage
tax
to
pay
for
this
endeavor.
O
Since
then,
two
chamber
administrations
have
worked
to
convene
the
city
in
the
county
to
create
a
governance
that
will
make
this
expansion
reality.
Well,
we
have
finally
crossed
the
Finish
Line.
My
appreciation
for
both
units
of
government,
including
this
Council,
for
staying
the
course
and
negotiating
terms
that
would
be
that
are
acceptable
should
be
recognized.
I
also
want
to
give
a
nod
to
the
tireless
advocacy
of
visit
Bloomington
in
downtown
Bloomington
Inc.
It
was
not
a
smooth
process.
Everyone's
patience
and
fortitude
were
required.
I
realized.
This
was
not
the
top
of
every
elected
official's
agenda.
O
However,
by
expanding
and
renovating
our
Convention
Center,
we
can
now
compete
for
out
of
town
visitors
during
some
of
our
slower
tourist
times
of
view.
This
represents
an
economic
driver
for
our
accounting,
with
the
flow
of
additional
out
of
town
dollars
being
spent
at
our
local
businesses.
Thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
I
hope
to
see
you
in
person
very
very
soon.
C
Q
Thank
my
name
is
Jamie
Scholl
and
something
that
I
don't
think
got
placed
in
I'm
just
going
to
pull
that
out
and
say
it
now,
because
I
think
this
is
General
comment
of
I'm
current
right
am
I
correct
on
that.
Q
Okay,
well,
it
was
somewhat
mentioned,
so
it's
I'll
just
say
it
and
then
it
can
be
Excel
in
regards
to
comp
financial
compensation.
Q
I
would
think
that
and
I
thought
this
and
mentioned
it
in
previous
Council
meetings
when
I've
spoken,
that
I
think
the
position
of
being
a
council
member
is
underpaid
and
to
have
an
outside
body
to
come
and
see
if
what
you
all
are
compensated
for
with
all
of
the
duties
and
time
and
responsibilities
is
really
in
alignment
with
what
what
you're
currently
being
paid,
which
I
think
is
extremely
low.
Q
So
that's
one
little
thing:
this
is
off
of
the
agenda
I'm
currently
reading
the
book,
San
Francisco,
and
it's
really
changing
my
mind
on
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
I've
heard
talked
about
and
I
know:
I've
had
private
conversations
about
in
regards
to
homeless
population
and
how
to
think
about
the
problem,
and
maybe
that
it's
not
just
that.
But
it's
an
open-air
drug
Market.
Q
If
we
looked
at
the
mental
health
issues
and
the
drug
issues
that
maybe
we
would
find
that
there
would
be
other
Solutions
I'm
only
about
halfway
through
the
book
but
may
share
with
you
all
what
I'm
finding
out,
if
you've
not
read
it
I
highly
recommend
it
because
it's
it's
really
challenging
some
of
my
thoughts
that
I
have
had
believed
previously
and
would
need
and
require
strong,
a
strong
leadership
to
bring
to
some
of
these
entities
together
to
work
together,
which
have
seemingly
and
maybe
I,
don't
have
the
full
view
which
that's
very
likely,
seemingly
not
always
work
together,
and
that
would
be
mental
health
professionals,
doctors
and
police
department
and
having
a
really
concerted
effort
in
looking
at
the
Housing
Solutions
at
each
stage,
for
example,
of
recovery,
because
those
would
be
what
is
needed
is
different.
Q
And
looking
at
the
longevity
of
time
of
support
that
these
people
would
need
for
Recovery.
Anyway.
I've
been
really
died,
just
fascinated
with
what
I
found
out,
because
I
have
lived
in
San
Francisco,
and
that
was
a
real
problem
when
I
left
there
and
finding
that
there
are
other
places
around
the
globe
who
have
found
solutions
that
have
worked
so
all
right.
Thank
you
again
for
your
time
and
your
service
I
really
appreciate
it.
Thank.
M
The
council
tonight,
council
president
scam
belleri,
has
expressed
interest
in
holding
a
council
work
session,
this
Friday
to
hear
an
update
from
the
administration
on
the
progress
related
to
the
showers,
West
expansion
and
redesign
in
anticipation
of
emotion
tonight,
a
notice
has
already
been
provided
for
that
meeting,
but
if
the
council
tonight
could
confirm
its
interest
in
holding
that
meeting
again,
this
would
be
this
Friday
at
noon.
That
will
give
guidance
to
to
staff
as
to
whether
we'll
proceed
with
that
or
not.
So,
if
there's
a
motion
to
hold
that,
that
would
be
helpful.
C
C
F
The
motion
is
to
excuse
me.
The
motion
is
to
hold
a
work
session,
September
8th
at
noon.
The
matter
is
the
presentation
by
the
administration
of
the
showers
construction
planning,
update.
C
C
C
K
I
would
like
to
have
a
pretty
well-rounded
discussion
as
to
the
stakeholders.
Great
okay,.