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A
A
Thank
you
we'll
then
we'll
begin
with
our
land
and
labor
acknowledgment
for
the
city
of
Bloomington.
We
recognize
that
the
city
of
Bloomington
sits
on
native
land.
The
city
as
well
as
City
administrative
buildings,
are
on
the
traditional
homelands
of
the
Miami
Delaware
Potawatomi
and
Shawnee
people,
and
we
acknowledge
that
they
are
past
present
and
future
caretakers
of
this
land.
A
We
also
acknowledge
that
much
of
the
economic
progress
and
development
in
Indiana
and
specifically
Bloomington
resulted
from
the
unpaid,
labor
and
forced
servitude
of
people
of
color,
specifically
enslaved,
African
labor.
We
acknowledge
that
this
land
remains
home
to
and
a
site
of,
gathering
and
healing
for
many
indigenous
and
other
people
of
color
and
commit
to
the
work
necessary
to
create
and
promote
a
more
Equitable
and
just
Bloomington.
A
We'll
then
take
up
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions
and
then
move
into
legislation
for
second
readings
and
resolutions
included.
There
are
appropriation
ordinance
23-01
to
specially
appropriate
the
current
balance
of
the
opioid
settlement
fund
to
help
address
the
impacts
of
the
opioid
crisis
on
City
and
County
residents.
A
C
D
A
A
C
Smith,
yes,
thank
you.
I
wanted
to
first
of
all
invite
the
public
to
my
monthly
constituent
meeting,
which
will
be
this
Saturday
at
April,
8th
at
11
A.M,
and
you
can
find
the
zoom
link
on
the
city
council
website.
C
Bloomington.In.Gov
Council
I
will
also
have
an
in-person
part
of
the
meeting.
It'll
be
hybrid,
so
you
can
also
join
me
in
the
McCloskey
room
of
city
hall,
room
135.
and
in
honor
of
national
poetry
month.
I
would
like
to
read
a
poem
by
warsan
Shire,
a
Somali
British
poet
born
1988.,
and
this
poem
is
called
backwards.
C
The
poem
can
start
with
him
walking
backwards
into
a
room.
He
takes
off
his
jacket
and
sits
down
for
the
rest
of
his
life.
That's
how
we
bring
dad
back.
I
can
make
the
blood
run
back
up
my
nose
ants,
rushing
into
a
hole
we
grow
into
smaller
bodies.
My
breasts
disappear,
your
cheeks
soften
teeth,
sink
back
into
gums.
C
C
C
C
G
A
H
A
A
K
J
J
That
all
right,
thank
you
for
having
me
I,
am
doing
the
2023
comprehensive
plan
tracking
update.
This
is
the
third
one
we've
done
now.
The
previous
one
was
in
2021.
We
skipped
a
year
in
2022.
J
Okay,
so
the
comprehensive
plan
is
the
city
of
bloomington's
long
range
plan
for
all
aspects
of
land
use
planning,
including
development
and
transportation.
It
describes
the
community's
vision
for
the
future.
Additionally,
it
the
comprehensive
plan
establishes
goals
for
which
the
city
seeks
to
achieve
over
the
life
cycle
of
the
plan.
This
current
plan,
adopted
in
2018,
is
expected
to
live
on
in
some
fashion
until
2040.
J
J
J
Okay,
sorry
about
that,
I
think
it's
working
now,
so
it's
broken
up
into
the
comprehensive
plans
broken
up
into
six
chapters,
two
sections:
the
first
is
in
the
part,
I'll
cover.
The
second
part
is
the
land
use
map
and
it
won't
be
covered
tonight
chapter
one.
We
identified
seven
item
indicators
that
we'll
cover
only
a
handful
tonight.
The
first
is
real:
real
per
capita
personal
income.
J
As
you
can
see,
there
was
a
12
uptick
in
bloomington's,
real
per
capita
personal
income
after
the
First
full
year
of
adoption,
so
that
would
be
2019
and
we
used
a
comparison
city
of
Lafayette
West
Lafayette
as
they
are
within
the
same
state
and
have
a
similar
population.
J
Previously
reported
was
Ann
Arbor
and
Madison
Wisconsin,
but
in
the
updated
version
we
only
chose
to
do
West,
Lafayette
per
capita
GDP
again
we
used
West
Lafayette
here.
This
was
this
is
for
every
dollar
spent
in
the
city
on
goods
and
services
also
identified
our
Private
Industry
gross
domestic
product
and
government
gross
domestic
product,
so
that
would
be
spending
based
on
those
two
organizations
Trends
and
sector
employment.
J
We
took
the
2019
data
in
the
2021
data
and
compared
to
see
what
sectors
had
a
change
in
a
number
of
employees,
so
you
in
the
darker
colors,
you
can
see
a
larger
percentage
lost
or
gained.
You
can
see
that,
for
example,
there
was
a
large
gain
in
transportation
warehousing,
but
a
significant
loss
in
information
and
management
of
companies
and
Enterprises.
J
So
one
of
the
indicators
is
the
number
of
demolition
requests
that
is
identified
through
certificates
of
zoning
compliance,
a
building
department,
building,
permit
demolition.
Permit
excuse
me
is
requested,
and
then
that
is
reviewed
by
the
city
projects
that
meet
the
terms
of
Title
20.
The
Udo
are
issued
a
certificate
of
zoning
compliance.
Those
have
been
identified
here,
total
request,
separated
I,
can't
guarantee
that
all
of
these
buildings
have
actually
been
demolished.
I
can
only
guarantee
that
some
have
been
that
the
numbers
here
are
issued.
J
I've
also
identified
a
number
of
historic
properties,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
large
uptick
in
2021
that
matches
the
total
building
permit,
uptick
that
we
saw
during
the
mid
pandemic
period
all
right.
So
a
number
of
cultural
and
arts
and
entertainment
institutions.
There's
a
pretty
cool
chart
here,
there's
an
interactive
version.
If
you
follow
the
link
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation
in
your
packet,
where
you
can
see
what
each
indicator
is
or
excuse
me,
each
institution
is
identified
by
name
and
location.
J
Okay,
so
one
of
the
indicators
is
the
increase
in
square
footage
of
green
Roots
ain't
since
2019
or
excuse
me
since
2018,
there
have
been
3
000,
total
square
feet
of
green
roofs
added,
there's
an
additional
3
or
3670
coming
on
third
in
Grant,
if
you're
familiar
with
that
and
then
the
north
Pete
Ellis
drive
has
a
pending
total
because
it
is
variable
based
on
solar
and
I
believe
white
roof
numbers
so
that
final
number
will
be
once
they
start
getting
a
final
plan
review
we'll
know
a
final
total
there,
all
right
in
the
assessed
value
for
downtown.
J
You
can
see
that
it's
increased
22.7
percent
over
the
December
2018
assessed
value
and
the
December
2022
assessed
value
and
the
total
presented
change
in
these
entire
city
was
35
percent.
J
The
occupancy
rate
for
downtown
commercial
spaces
I'll
make
note
that
I
accidentally
wrote
the
vacancy
rate
in
the
presentation
provided
in
the
packet
is
94.6,
so
there's
115
blocks
identified
in
the
the
Udo
the
title
20
that
have
a
requirement
for
50
non-residential
ground
floor
of
that
115
blocks.
There
is
a
occupancy
rate
of
94.6
percent
total
non-residential
spaces
278
and
total
vacant
space
is
identified
on
March
21st,
we're
15.,
so
there's
a
call
for
a
mapping
of
abandoned
properties
and
shovel
ready
sites.
J
As
someone
who
does
development
review
or
previously
did
development
review,
there's
no
such
thing
as
a
throttle
ready
site,
but
there
are
sites
that
are
vacant,
so
we've
identified
the
vacant
sites
from
the
December
2018
assessor
data.
You
can
see
those
here,
there's
been
a
map
included.
A
interactive
version
of
this
map
is
included
in
that
online
version
as
well.
J
You
can
see
that
over
the
course
of
those
four
years
we've
saw
a
roughly
half
of
the
potentially
shovel
ready
sites
were
developed
and
the
number
of
parking
lots
or
structures
was
stayed
about
the
same
as
41
and
47
I.
Believe,
okay,
so
there's
a
democratic
excuse
me,
demographic
profile
of
residential
units
in
the
downtown
overlay
District.
You
can
see
that
the
people
who
live
in
downtown
are
relatively
young,
relatively
diverse,
have
a
medium
household
income
of
roughly
14
000
and
they
live
in
homes
that
are
roughly
330
000..
J
J
All
right,
this
one
is
the
percentage
of
dwelling
units
occupied.
This
was
previously
reported.
As
you
know,
dicennial
censuses
have
updated
census
blocks,
so
it's
not
the
exact
same
map
as
previously
provided,
but
you
can
see
that
it's
roughly
the
same
most
census
census
blocks
have
in
85
percent
or
higher
occupancy
rate.
However,
you
can
see
the
ref
the
effects
of
the
pandemic
on
a
couple
of
areas
where
student
occupied
housing
is
identified
again,
this
map
has
an
interactive
version.
You
can
get
in
closer
and
see
what
areas
are
have
been
affected.
More.
J
All
right
and
then
we
estimated
the
total
hours
of
average
commute
spent
in
traffic,
so
the
average
sorry.
J
So,
per
year
the
average
bloomingtonian
spends
144
hours
in
traffic
commuting.
That's
16.7
minutes
each
way
from
home,
to
work
and
or
from
home
to
work
and
work
to
home
and
260
days
of
work.
J
All
right,
so
the
number
of
fatalities
in
incapacitating
injuries
I'll
note
that
this
there's
a
copy
and
paste
error
in
your
packet.
This
is
the
the
adjusted
numbers
those
have
been
included
online.
You
can
see
that
there
is
a
steady
decrease
in
the
last
three
years.
J
I
believe
2019
was
the
last
reported
year
previously,
and
so
this
extends
that
you
can
see
that
there's
an
increase
in
fatalities
in
this
is
for
Monroe
County,
not
just
Bloomington,
but
there's
been
a
number
of
an
increase
in
the
number
of
fatalities
crash
rates
for
people
walking
and
bicycling.
You
can
see
that
it's
roughly
staying
steady,
it
did
drop
2019
and
2020
and.
J
And
then
a
number
of
Crash
rates
with
fatalities
for
bicycles
and
pedestrians
is
staying
within
the
two
to
three
range
and
then
finally,
the
motor
vehicle
collision
for
Monroe
county
is
again
was
previously
reported.
2018
2019
those
numbers
have
changed
slightly
in
that
we
adjusted
how
we
were
reviewing
some
some
previous
collisions
were
misreported
multiple
times,
so
we've
adjusted
for
that
so
you'll.
If
you
go
back
and
look
you'll,
see
that
there
one
or
two
off,
but
the
rest
of
the
numbers
are
correct.
J
N
First
I
wanted
to
at
least
note
the
passing
of
those
people
who
were
killed
in
in
accidents
are
noted
here
and
I
wish.
We
didn't
have
to
refer
to
them
as
a
statistic
tonight,
but
I
just
wanted
to
call
attention
to
it.
Can
you
go
back
to
the
slide
that
involves
downtown
residential
parking
because
I'm
not
sure
I,
quite
understood
the
import
of
that
slide?
You're
talking
about
off-street
parking,
I
take
it
that
was
included
with
the
development
project.
N
N
J
This
is
not
parking,
this
is
occupancy
rate
of
the
actual
non-residential
spaces
within
buildings.
So
this
is
total
number
of
residential
non-residential
spaces
identified.
The
Udo
calls
for
50
non-ground
non-residential
ground
floor.
It
would
be
difficult
to
okay.
N
Saying
that
95
of
these
spaces
are
in
fact
occupied
correct,
so
was
there
any
prior
statistic,
any
prior
statistic
to
this.
J
No,
unfortunately,
this
takes
actually
walking
the
115
blocks
to
determine.
So
this
is
a
baseline
statistic.
It'll
carry
forward
for
the
next
report.
J
N
So
there
has
been
one
more
follow-up.
If
you
don't
mind
there,
there
has
been
talk
about
converting
unused
commercial
space
to
residential,
especially
post
pandemic.
Do
you
see
I'm
not
sure
where
this
yeah
this
is?
We
have
different
definitions
of
downtown
and
some
of
these
slides,
but
do
you
see
any
demand
for
conversions
of
commercial
space
to
residential
space
in
this
area?.
J
N
Not
well
I
mean
I
I,
that's
I
think
we're
using.
This
is
the
same
idea,
in
other
words,
our
property
owners
requesting
conversions
to
residential
space
on
ground
floor.
Yes,.
J
There
have
been
one
or
two
requests
in
this
particular
115
blocks
in
the
greater
downtown,
which
does
not
have
that
50
ground
floor
requirement.
There
have
been
previously,
but
we've
retracted
that
area
it
used
to
be
a
much
higher
percentage
of
the
downtown.
In
fact,
it
was
the
entire
downtown
that
had
a
non-residential
ground
floor
requirement
that
is
gone
in
large
percentages
of
the
downtown,
so.
N
A
F
F
So
shout
out
to
my
colleagues
down
here,
rosenbarker
and
those
that
supported
that
okay
back
to
business,
you
were
talking
about
Green
Roofing
and
we've
got
3
000
square
feet
completed
and
another
3
700
in
the
pipeline
is
that
now
my
direct
question
was
that
does
that
directly
relate
to
concessions
for
affordable
housing.
J
No
I
would
say
that
these
numbers
do
not
most
of
the
numbers
provided
here
were
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
Udo
as
it
stands
now,
which
has
that
affordable
housing
rules
the
pending.
No,
the
third
and
Grant
one
is
fully
after
the
adoption
of
the
Udo,
the
new
Udo
and
utilized
both
they
wanted.
The
full
extension
of
the
benefits
of
those.
F
Okay,
thank
you
next
question:
the
topic
of
demographic
profile,
residential
units
in
the
downtown
overlay
and
the
comment
that
I
heard
and
I'd
like
for
you
to
explain
a
little
bit.
You
said
it
was
relatively
diverse.
What
does
that
mean
and
does
that
include
racial
and
cultural
diversity.
J
Sure
so,
there's
a
diversity
index
that
the
census
puts
out
every
census,
and
it
is
the
percentage
here
in
the
downtown
for
The
4400
residents
is
48.3
percent,
which,
if
it
were
a
state,
would
put
it
at
22nd.
If
that
helps
you
give
it
get
an
idea,
it
is
more
diverse
than
Bloomington
as
a
whole
downtown.
Is
they
don't
have
the
exact
number,
but
I
can
provide
that
for
you
yeah.
Please
do
but.
F
J
By
sure,
so
yes,
a
lot
of
things
go
sorry.
I
should
have
gone
into
the
diversity
inside
index
by
the
the
census
has
a
lot
of
indicators,
so
race,
gender
things
like
that
are
all
identified.
L
A
F
C
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
for
this
very
comprehensive
report.
I
will
be
digging
into
it
in
the
coming
days.
I
had
two
things
that
stood
out
for
me
this
evening.
C
One
of
them
was
well
it's
page
80
of
our
packet,
so
not
sure
what
page
that
is
for
for
you,
Mr
robling,
but
it's
the
motor
vehicle
collisions
I,
am
not
sure
how
to
read
this
chart.
I,
don't
know
what
the
numbers
on
the
y-axis
are
the
3500
3000
2500.
J
Was
this
the
chart?
I'm?
Sorry,
yes,
okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
so
the
I.
This
is
all
collisions,
are
tallied
here
and
then
I
broke
them
out.
The
way
that
the
mpo
defines
collisions
includes
resulting
in
injuries
resulting
in
incapacitating
injuries
resulting
in
possible
injuries
and
then
resulting
in
fatalities.
Those
are
all
separate
collisions,
so
the
Collision
total
means
it's
just.
A
collision
did
not
have
an
injury
or
fatality
or
potential
injury
or
fatality
related.
C
J
So
the
number
is
so
large
that
you
can't
actually
see
it.
I'm
sorry
I
tried
to
figure
out
a
better
way
to
do
it
and
I
didn't
Collision,
resulting
in
fatalities
is
the
number
at
the
top
it's
just
so
narrow
compared
to
the
rest
of
collisions
that
you
can't
see
it.
C
Oh
okay,
all
right,
so
that
would
be
a
thin
black
line.
That
represents
those
seven
correct,
okay,
yeah.
We
need
to
do
better
for
sure
the
other
and
I
don't
know
if
it
was
actually
part
of
your
presentation,
but
it
is
in
our
what
we
received
in
our
packet
and
that
is
on
page
61..
It's
3.4.1.
C
So
what
I'm
seeing
here
is
that,
whereas
in
2018,
39
percent
of
the
waste
was
diverted
from
the
landfill,
whereas
in
2022,
only
30
percent
was
so.
That
is
a
negative
Trend
and
I
I'd
like
to
know
more
about.
Is
this
just
what
the
city
picks
up
as
far
as
the
city
services
for
residential
units,
with
four
fewer
units,
the
presidential
buildings
with
few
four
or
fewer
units,
or
what
does
that
reflect.
J
So,
yes,
this
reflects
all
waste
that
it
headed
towards
the
landfill
during
those
years.
The
number
is
actually
misleading.
I
probably
should
have
just
presented
on
this,
but
it's
it's
not
from
planning,
so
I
didn't
I,
don't
propose
to
be
an
expert,
but
the
I
have
a
a
quick
thing
from
them.
It
says,
since
the
2018
amount
of
both
solid
waste
and
recycling
have
increased
approximately
15
annually.
J
This
is
due
to
the
addition
of
areas
within
the
city
that
have
collected,
in
addition
to
continued
education
and
encouragement
of
recycling
since
2020
and
the
onset
of
covid,
more
people
have
been
working
and
eating
at
home
and
resulting
in
a
much
higher
collection
of
both
solid
and
waste
recycling.
In
addition,
the
city's
transition
to
mulching
in
place
and
the
discontinuation
of
curbside
Leaf
program
have
been
resulted
in
less
yard.
Waste
on
all
the
changes
are
proportional
to
the
amount
of
material
being
collected.
That's
from
DPW
staff
themselves.
I'm.
J
So,
no
sorry,
the
number
is
increasing
roughly
15
percent
annually,
regardless
of
the
decreases,
and
then
the
amount
that
is
being
up
formerly
would
have
been
diverted
away
from
the
landfill
yard.
Waste
Etc
is
now
being
used
on
site.
So
that's
lowering
that
number.
Even
more
sorry.
C
C
I
You
first
off
just
make
a
motion
to
extend
time
for
this
section
of
the
agenda
until
7
15
pm.
I
I
I
just
think
we
were
past
our
20-minute
limit
and
trying
to
be
better
about
keeping
an
eye
on
those
things.
Thank
you,
Mr
Redbook,
the
presentation.
So
does
the
planning
department
track
every
indicator
from
the
comprehensive
plan
on
an
annual
basis,
or
only
some.
J
I
I'm
curious,
so
the
comprehensive
plan,
frames,
outcomes
and
indicators
and
I
don't
think
it's
possible
outcomes
were
sort
of
included
in
some
of
your
presentation,
but
typically
you'll
have
an
outcome
like
here's.
One,
for
example,
increase
the
range
of
affordable
housing
options
that
are
universally
designed
and
environmentally
sustainable,
and
then
has
a
number
of
indicators
and
I
think
you
reported
on
some
of
those
indicators.
I
I
guess
what
I'm
getting
at,
though
and
I'm
curious
about,
is
like
interpretation
of
the
results
to
inform
policy
making.
So
thinking
not
just
here's
what's
happening
with
the
numbers.
Here's
where
income
is
in
the
city,
here's
a
number
of
you
know,
but
trying
to
help
help
us
understand
better,
understand
and
possibly
come
with
recommendations
about
what
the
data
are
telling
us
and
and
what
we
could
do
about
it.
I
think.
Maybe
not
all
the
indicators
are
best
suited
to
lead
us
in
that
direction.
J
Yeah,
that's
a
great
question,
so
this
this
presentation
matched
previous
presentations
I
didn't
want
to
Veer
too
far
off
of
what
was
familiar.
I
will
say
that
the
future
updates
we
intend
to
look
at
goals
and
objectives
rather
than
just
indicators
alone,
will
preferably
select
one
of
the
chapters
and
do
a
deeper
dive.
That
would
be
the
preference
in
the
future.
I
think
this
was
especially
after
a
five-year
period.
J
I
Thank
you
brief
follow-up,
if
that's
okay,
and
is
it
fair
to
surmise
that
tracking
every
indicator
on
an
annual
basis
is
too
much
of
a
burden
for
the
Department
like
it's
not
really
possible.
J
I
And
what
are
your
thoughts
about?
How
how
well
Equity
is
integrated
into
our
indicators?
Looking
back
at
it
like
in
terms
of
thinking
about
improving
Equity
outcomes,.
J
That's
a
great
question:
I
would
say
that
some
of
the
indicators,
many
of
the
indicators,
are
just
facts
as
presented
which
do
not
take
into
account
Equity,
and
we
could
certainly
be
better
across
the
board
at
doing
that,
especially
in
the
comprehensive.
I
Plan:
okay,
final
question,
which
is
based
on
all
that:
would
you
all
be
open
to
updating
and
refining
our
process
for
reporting
on
indicators
and
outcomes
in
a
a
way?
That's
comprehensively
manageable
for
you
all
in
terms
of
workload
and
B
might
help
Drive
Equitable
policy
outcomes
in
a
more
intentional
way,
maybe
that
we
have
right
now.
E
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
roblingitis
was
going
to
ask
if
you'll
comment
on
the
slide.
4.5
1,
the
demographic
profile
again
just
so
I
am
understanding
it
if
we
see
the
medium
median
household
income
of
14,
000
and
change
in
a
home
value
of
330
000..
J
E
A
Let
me
take
a
round
one
okay,
if
you
would
go
to
Trends
in
sector
employment,
1.10.5.
A
And
in
particular,
I'm
interested
in
the
areas
that
showed
a
lot
of
really
dramatic
change
in
information
and
management
of
companies
and
Enterprises
I'm
wondering
if
we
are
counting
differently
or
re-categorizing
some
kinds
of
employment.
Can
you
comment
on
that
because
those
seem
like
pretty
dramatic
changes
to
me.
J
Data,
yes,
I
tally
these
that
so
I'm
not
sure
what
the
change
is
to
be
honest,
did
not
have
enough
time
to
analyze,
I
suspect
for
the
management
of
companies
and
Enterprises
one
company
closed,
because
it's
13
jobs,
whereas
information
I
I'm,
not
certain
potentially
covid
affected.
Those
numbers
as
digital
and
Nomads
moved
around
the
country.
That
probably
who
doesn't
account
for
328
but
I'm,
not
sure
certain.
N
So
the
question
to
councilman
Smith
asked
about
demographics.
Downtown
dovetails
with
423
employment
levels
and
salary
and
wage
levels.
Do
you
have
a
way?
I
mean
I
know
that
census
data
is
pretty
comprehensive,
but
it's
also
pretty
obtuse
and
hard
to
get
to
find.
N
J
My
gut
instinct
is
no
but
I'm
we
may
be
able
to
parse
it
slightly
to
get
a
result
to
what
you're
looking
for,
but
yeah
like,
like
you
said,
Census
Data
just
comes
as
a
number
it's
kind
of
hard
to
to
dive
into
it
deeper
than
that,
but
it's
not
completely
impossible.
So
I
will
definitely
look
into
that.
Okay,.
N
I
wonder
if
the
all
the
questions
we're
asking
especially
accountable,
Flaherty's
questions.
Don't
really
call
for
this
to
be
a
consideration
of
the
committee
on
processes,
because
this
is
certainly
a
process
that
we're
all
concerned
about
and
I
wonder
if
that
committee
wouldn't
be
of
service
to
you
in
thinking
about
how
to
optimize
the
task.
That's
ahead
of
you.
So
just
that's
a
comment.
Thank
you.
N
C
Yes,
there
was
a
slide
on
occupancy
rate
of
residential
housing
in
downtown
I,
don't
remember
which
one
it
is,
but
I
went
to
the
arcgis
extra
information
link
that
was
provided-
and
you
know
mostly
it's
it's
very
red,
indicating
that
there's
a
very
high
occupancy
rate,
but
there
is
one
census
tract
where
there's
an
only
only
a
31
occupancy
rate
and
it
seems
to
be
between
Third
Street
and
7th
Street,
and
between
Walnut
and
Indiana,
Avenue
and
I'm.
Very
surprised
at
that
is
this
something.
C
J
I
have
a
guess
and
you've
hinted
at
it:
two
parts,
one:
the
pandemic
saw
a
lot
of
students
leave,
there's
an
area
to
the
north
here
that
has
an
occupancy
rate
of
zero,
which
home
to
a
number
of
dorms
and
student
housing,
so
zero
seems
unlikely,
but
during
the
pandemic,
students
went
home,
so
I
believe
that
has
a
large
effect
on
that
this
area
downtown
I.
Also
there
were
a
number
of
demolitions
at
the
time
of
the
census.
J
J
A
A
A
Any
nope
seeing
none
okay,
that
takes
us
to
our
first
period.
First
of
two
periods
of
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
legislative
agenda
this
evening.
Are
there
just
a
quick
show
of
hands
and
Chambers
folks
who
would
like
to
offer
public
comment
this
evening
for
items
not
on
the
agenda
one
two
and
Mr
Lucas?
Could
you
extend
our
invitation
on
Zoom?
Please.
M
Yes,
if
there
are
members
of
the
public
joining
us
via
Zoom,
that
would
like
to
speak.
Please
let
us
know
now
by
using
the
raise
hand,
feature
you
can
find
that
in
your
control
bar
under
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab,
and
if
you
can't
locate
that
race
hand
button,
please
send
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host
and
we
will
recognize
you
that
way.
D
A
D
D
Five
yeah
Terry
Amsler,
my
wife
and
I,
live
on
East
Wimbledon
Lane
in
Bloomington
very
briefly
good
evening.
Council
members,
I
really
wasn't
didn't
come
here
prepared
to
speak,
but
I
didn't
really
know
what
was
on
the
agenda.
But
since
the
comprehensive
plan
was
on
the
agenda,
I
will
say
briefly
that
I
happened
to
pull
together
a
couple
years
ago.
D
All
the
public
engagement
excerpts
of
goals,
policies,
outcomes
relating
to
public
engagement
for
teaching
that
I
was
doing
and
I
don't
carry
them
around,
but
I
happen
to
have
a
couple
of
them
in
the
back
of
my
appointment
book
that
I
am
carrying
around
and
so
in
this
it
made
me
think
so.
Here's
what
I
think
you
know!
There's
it's
I,
don't
know!
If
anyone's
compiled
this
I'll
leave
to
the
clerk
there
in
case
anyone
would
find
it
useful
if
it
made
it
ties
into
some
of
what's
being
suggested.
D
There's
one
on
promote
staff,
public
engagement,
knowledge
and
competencies,
and
support
City
departments
to
assess
and
document
their
public
engagement
experiences
and
share
their
learning
across
departments.
These
are
from
the
present
Conference
of
plan
2018.,
one
other,
perhaps
loaded
on
this
copy,
create
opportunities
for
additional
Public
Access
such
as
online
document
search,
permit
applications,
Etc
involve
housing
and
neighbor
Development
Council
of
neighbor
and
Association
determining
how
the
city
can
be
more
responsive
into
neighborhood
participation
and,
lastly,
I'll
just
say
about
outcome.
Engagement
processes
are
inclusive
and
representative
and
they're.
D
Looking
at
demographic
makeup
of
Engagement
participation,
so
I'm
just
saying
thinking
about
outcomes,
you
have
material
here,
I,
don't
know
how
much
anyone's
looking
at
it.
However,
I
don't
know
that,
though
I'm
not
as
close
to
this
as
almost
anybody
else
in
Bloomington
really
but
I,
you
do
have
a
public
engagement
director
I
believe
in
the
city
interesting.
Maybe
this
is
a
a
two
cent
idea
off
the
top
of
my
head
to
have
that
person
come
and
say
how
are
we
doing
with
public
engagement
and
run
through
this?
D
A
O
Hello,
my
name
is
Chase
techington.
Thank
you
for
your
attention.
Tonight.
I've
lived
here
in
Bloomington
for
many
years.
I've
had
a
number
of
direct
service
roles
and
administrative
roles
in
agencies
that
serve
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
I.
Have
some
comments
for
you,
some
public
engagement
for
you
about
about
that
topic
for
many
years
in
those
roles,
I
was
very
bewildered
and
discouraged
about
what
is
a
very
difficult
and
complicated
problem.
O
But
after
I
heard
a
lecture
from
a
Vanderbilt
researcher
named
Marion
Beth
Shin
at
the
O'neill
school
picked
up
her
book
and
she
had
some
very
a
couple
interesting
things.
She
said
when
she
opens
her
classes.
She
asks
her
students,
two
questions.
She
hands,
half
of
them
out
question
one
half
of
them
question
two
question:
one
is:
why
do
you
think
one
person
might
be
homeless
and
the
answers
that
she
gets
back?
O
Are
that
chaotic
milieu
all
of
the
difficult
problems
fleeing
domestic
violence,
a
lifetime
of
poverty,
the
birth
of
a
baby,
but
unable
to
afford
Child
Care
the
loss
of
a
job
permanent
disability?
Those
kinds
of
things
that
we
link
to
homelessness?
Is
these
really
difficult
issues?
Poor
mental
health
addiction
and
then
the
other
question,
and
its
answer
were
very
freeing
to
me
and
helped
give
me
some
motivation
and
Clarity
to
continue
in
a
lot
of
my
roles,
and
that
question
was:
why
are
so
many
people
homeless,
slightly
different
question?
O
What's
the
rate
of
homelessness
and
our
answer
from
her
research
was
simple
and
that
is
the
rate
of
homelessness
in
a
given.
Community
is
directly
related
to
the
rate
of
affordability
in
that
community.
So
a
simple
economics
tells
us
supply
and
demand
control
prices.
Here
we
have
a
community
where
our
supply
of
housing
is
low
and
according
her
research,
that
is
driving
up
the
prices
of
homes
and
that
is
driving
the
rate
of
homelessness
in
our
community
compared
to
other,
similarly
situated
communities
or
other
communities
in
America.
O
So
as
for
Supply
our
the
construction
of
homes.
Generally,
we
have
a
lot
of
ideas
that
I'm
really
grateful
to
live
in
a
city
where
we
have
subsidies
where
we
have
supports
for
people
who
are
going
through
all
those
intractable
issues,
all
those
very
difficult
issues
that
affect
one
person
at
a
time,
but
we
also
have
some
opportunities
in
this
community
to
address
that
core
issue
that
big
driver
that
makes
our
rate
of
homelessness
a
little
bit
different.
Some
say
its
rates
of
poverty.
Mississippi
is
the
most
is
the
poorest
state
in
the
Union?
O
Has
the
lowest
housing
homelessness
rate,
because
housing
is
Affordable
there?
Meanwhile,
California,
which,
if
it
were
a
state,
would
be
the
Earth's
fifth
largest
economy
has
the
highest
rate
of
homelessness,
100
000
people
sleep
outside
or
in
shelter.
In
California,
on
a
given
night,
the
Bay
Area
alone,
30
000
people,
they
can
only
shelter,
30
percent
of
them.
Those
are
communities
where
their
local
governments
made
zoning
and
plan
laws
that
did
not
allow
their
markets
to
create
enough
housing
to
supply
all
the
demand.
That
was
there.
O
Indeed,
we
saw
tonight
that
red
map
of
of
housing
use
where
we're
leasing
at
95
percent.
You
can't
turn
tables
that
fast,
you
go
into
Red
Robin
and
they
tell
you
that
that's
their
table
turn
rate.
You
would
not
wait
right
and
we
saw
at
first
floor
retail
also
constrained,
and
surely
we
have
more
concern
for
homeless
people
than
for
a
homeless
business.
O
So
I
would
like
to
to
ask
that
this
Council
consider
some
of
the
plans
in
the
Udo
and
some
of
the
pieces
of
our
regulatory
environment
that
constrain
the
construction
of
new
homes.
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
paying
attention
to
our
health
and
safety,
especially
long
term,
our
environmental,
health
and
safety,
by
tying
in
those
regulations
that
regular
that
development
is
not
rampant.
But
I.
O
Ask
that
you
consider
some
of
the
aesthetic
restrictions
like
height
density,
location
and
design
that
have
been
held
up
to
me
as
preserving
the
character
and
charm
of
our
community,
but
I
do
not
find
homelessness,
quaint
or
charming
and
I.
Don't
think
the
people
who
experience
it
do
either
so
I
ask
that
you
guys
consider
how
to
preside
to
a
of
a
regulatory
environment
that
permits
our
Market
to
create
enough
housing
to
meet.
O
There
is
no
better
and
more
effective
used
to,
in
the
meantime,
address
homelessness
through
the
activities
that
those
programs
fund
motels
for
children
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
in
an
emergency
tickets
home
for
people
who
are
stranded
here
that
don't
need
to
be
in
our
shelters,
Street
Outreach
Partnerships
with
local
law
enforcement,
Mental,
Health,
Service
Providers,
the
downtown
Outreach
Grant,
is
an
amazing
way
to
address
homelessness
in
the
meantime
until
we
can
address
our
housing
problems.
Thank
you.
So
much.
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
Eric
OST
and
I
was
not
intending
to
speak
this
evening,
but
I
was
inspired
by
a
couple
other
folks
who
spoke
Mr,
Amsler
reference,
the
public
engagement
and
I'm.
Currently,
a
member
of
the
Council
of
neighborhood
association
board
and
one
of
the
topics
that
we've
discussed
is
how
to
improve
the
engagement
of
neighborhoods
and
residents
who
live
in
those
neighborhoods
with
local
government,
also
between
neighborhoods
and
so
I'd
encourage
the
public
engagement
director
to
reach
out
to
our
president
Cynthia
Romo
and
we'll
do
the
same.
P
But
I
look
forward
to
that.
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
great
initiative
and
an
area
of
improvement.
Another
commenter
mentioned
the
cost
of
housing
and
how
it
influences.
P
Homelessness
and
I
want
to
draw
your
attention
to
one
of
the
slides
in
the
packet,
and
that
would
be
on
page
65
that
reflected
on
the
assessed
value
in
2018
and
then
2022
and
I
noticed
that
the
percentage
change
was
miscalculated
I
think
rather
than
being
22.7
and
35
percent,
it
should
be
29.5
and
53.9
percent,
and
across
the
entire
city
of
Bloomington
53,
almost
54
percent
increase
in
the
assessed
property
value
drives
the
cost
of
housing
upwards
significantly
and
then
in
terms
of
transparency
and
access
to
data.
I
want
to
complement
everyone.
P
Who's
been
involved
in
the
creation
of
the
the
be
clear
data
portal,
and
recently
the
registered
rental
data
was
updated
and
one
of
the
issues
with
that
data
set
has
been
that
there
were
numerous
duplicates
in
there,
and
so
the
data
set
has
been
apparent.
It
looks
like
deduplicated,
but
there
is
significantly
less
information
being
provided,
for
instance,
the
occupancy
load
for
each
rental
is
no
longer
included,
so
I
would
ask
perhaps
that
that
data
set
could
be
reviewed
and
perhaps
some
of
those
data
components
brought
back.
A
N
G
A
B
Appropriate
appropriation,
ordinance
2301
to
specially
appropriate
the
current
balance
of
the
opioid
opioid
settlement
fund
to
help
address
the
impacts
of
the
opioid
crisis
on
City
and
County
residents
synopsis.
This
ordinance
appropriates
391,
906
dollars
of
opioid
settlement
funds
for
the
purpose
of
making
grants
in
2023
to
community
organizations
assisting
residents
of
Bloomington
experiencing
negative
impacts
from
the
opioid
crisis.
C
M
And
thank
you
councilmember
Piedmont
Smith,
for
introducing
this.
The
council
will
remember
at
the
end
of
last
year
you
all
introduced
an
appropriation
ordinance
originally
number
2206
for
appropriating
certain
Bond
proceeds,
that
item
of
legislation
carried
over
to
the
New
Year
through
an
amendment
that
was
read
number
2301.
The
item
before
you
tonight,
through
an
oversight
was,
was
also
number
2301.
So
this
amendment
would
simply
renumber
this
current
appropriation.
Ordinance
is
2303
for
internal
record-keeping
purposes.
L
N
A
K
Good
evening,
council
members
Corporation
Council
Beth
Kate
I'm,
going
to
start
off
tonight
on
appropriation,
ordinance
2303,
which
asks
Council
to
appropriate,
as
you
heard
a
little
over
391
thousand
dollars,
which
is
the
current
balance
of
our
opioid
settlement
fund
for
use
by
the
community
and
family
resources
department,
for
a
variety
of
things
that
Ms
calendar
Anderson
is
going
to
explain.
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
to
just
kind
of
refresh
everyone
on
where
this
money
is
and
where
it
comes
from.
K
As
you
may
recall,
the
city
of
Bloomington
is
participating
in
National
settlements,
which
have
been
negotiated
by
the
state
of
Indiana
and
various
other
states.
Just
about
a
little
over
a
year
ago,
we
opted
into
the
first
of
these
settlements
with
a
manufacturer
and
several
Distributors,
and
that
has
produced
some
settlement
payments
which
began
in
late
2022
and
will
continue
out
through
2038.
Actually,
so
we
received
in
late
2022
payments
into
two
separate
funds.
One
is
an
unrestricted
fund
and
one
is
restricted
under
state
law.
K
So
only
the
2022
payments
from
that
settlement
toward
the
programs
that
Ms
calendar
Anderson
is
going
to
describe
so
I
I
will
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
anything
related
to
the
settlement
or
the
payments,
or
anything
like
that.
If
you
have
them,
but
otherwise
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Beverly
and
she
can
talk
about
what
the
money
will
be
used
for.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Thank
you
good
evening.
I'm
Beverly
calendar
Anderson,
director
of
the
community
and
Family
Resources
Department,
and
we're
requesting
the
appropriation
of
the
current
balance
as
corporate
Council
case
said,
of
the
2022
opioid
settlement
funds
in
the
amount
of
391
906
dollars
and,
as
you
may
know,
each
year
cfrd
coordinates
the
downtown
Outreach
branch,
which
provides
funding
for
non-profit
agencies
that
support
bloomington's,
unhoused
residents
or
those
of
in
danger
of
becoming
homeless.
Q
This
investment
of
funds
into
local
nonprofits
has
resulted
in
Outreach
staff
who
work
with
their
agencies
and
in
collaboration
with
the
city,
to
assure
that
residents
who
are
living
in
the
street
on
the
streets.
Excuse
me
are
receiving
needed
services,
including
health
care,
and
that
they
are
aware
of
the
resources
such
as
payment
for
transportation,
for
those
who
have
come
from
out
of
town
to
go
back
to
their
home
communities
as
well
as
case
management,
Navigator,
Services,
syringe
disposal
boxes
and
the
like
in
2023
the
downtown
Outreach
Grant
cycle.
Q
During
that
Outreach
Grant
cycle,
the
request
total
was
544
771
dollars,
that's
more
than
double
the
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
we
had
allocated
for
that
purpose.
The
grant
selection
committee
evaluated
each
Grant
and
finally
got
the
number
whittled
down
to
three
hundred
twenty
thousand
dollars.
Six
hundred
sixty
dollars,
which
was
still
seventy
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
more
than
available.
Q
The
committee
felt
further
Cuts,
would
not
allow
enough
funding
for
even
partial
services
to
be
provided
by
many
of
the
agencies.
Additionally
the
city
and
the
county
have
collaborated
on
a
matching
Grant
through
the
Family
Social
Service
Administration,
to
address
substance
use
disorder
in
Monroe
County.
Q
The
city's
portion
of
the
match
is
100
was
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
which
will
include
a
naloxone
supply
and
education
program,
drug
medication
and
syringe
disposal
units,
along
with
educational
resources,
for
the
proper
disposal
of
medication
and
syringes
in
order
to
collaborate
with
County
government
on
its
upcoming
programs,
addressing
substance
use
disorder
and
to
make
the
downtown
Outreach
Grant
committee's
recommendation
recommended
total
of
320
660
dollars
for
local
agencies.
We
request
and
recommend
the
council
approve
this
appropriation.
This
appropriation,
170
500
of
this
total,
has
already
been
outlined.
Q
N
Thanks
for
the
presentation
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
like
what
is
the
long-term
effect
of
I
mean,
was
this
money
that
you're
asking
us
to
appropriate
now?
Was
it
going
to
be
saved
up
and
perhaps
interest
gained
on
it
to
do
more
later?
Or
was
it
I
mean?
Why
didn't
we
allocate
all
the
money
we
received
in
2022
for
whatever
purposes?
That's
the
part
I'm
not
following.
Q
So
the
opioid
settlement
funding
I
mean
I'll,
let
you
talk
to
it,
but
I
mean
it
was
received
and
it
wasn't
necessarily
going
to
be
saved
up.
We
just
hadn't
asked
for
the
appropriation
yet
the
allocation,
yet.
Q
N
N
A
Q
Fssa
issued
a
request
for
a
request
for
proposals
for
a
matching
Grant
and
the
county
is
taking
the
lead
on
it
and
we
are.
We
have,
as
we
were
asked
requested,
to
do
to
come
in
as
a
collaborator,
and
so
I
know
that
it's
the
city
and
the
county
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
there
are
any
other
collaborators,
but
it
would
be
the
two
of
us.
G
Q
G
And
I
guess
my
next
question
would
have
to
do
with
future
payments,
for
this
particular
amount
of
money
that
we,
as
a
city
have
in
the
county,
have
could
go
more
for
treatment
options
for
recovery
options
for
providing
services
for
people
wanting
to
become
clean
and
sober.
Is
that
in
the
future?
Or
is
that
even
being
talked
about
at
this
level?
So.
Q
A
M
Yes,
if
there
are
members
of
the
public
that
wish
to
comment
on
this
item
that
are
joining
us
via
Zoom,
please
let
us
know
by
raising
your
hand
in
Zoom,
you
can
find
that
raise
hand
button
in
your
control
bar
under
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab.
You
can
also
send
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host
to,
let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak,
and
we
will
recognize
you
that
way.
I
will
also
note
that
tonight's
public
comments
section
provide
is
the
statutorily
required
public
hearing
on
this
item.
A
R
Thank
you,
presidents,
Gambler
you're,
expecting
more
greater
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce
I
wasn't
planning
to
speak
on
this
item
tonight,
but
I
did
see
that
one
of
the
potential
uses
of
funding
for
this
would
be
for
an
expansion
of
the
syringe,
Services
Program
for
harm
reduction
purposes.
I
just
want
to
remind
you
all
that
the
County
Council
recently
appropriated
a
25
000
grant
for
syringe
Services
programs
about
two
weeks
ago
that
will
supply
the
county
and
the
Indiana
recovery
alliance,
with
about
265
000
syringes
for
our
community
to
be
used.
R
I
did
a
little
further
digging
on
that
and
because
I
wanted
to
know.
As
you
know,
I
was
on
the
County
Council
a
while
back
and
when
the
serend
services
program
was
put
into
place
when
we
authorized
that
it
was
sold
to
us
as
a
syringe
Exchange
program,
and
so
the
idea
was,
you
would
bring
in
a
used
syringe
and
get
a
clean
one
back.
My
understanding
is:
that's
not
the
case
anymore.
R
It's
more
of
how
many
syringes
do
you
need
and
that's
what
we'll
give
you
so
we
did
ask
how
many
syringes
were
collected
for
those
265
000.
Last
year
that
were
distributed
with
that
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
Grant
708
were
collected
back.
So
in
other
words,
if
about
264
000
syringes
were
unaccounted
for
and
it
seems
like,
we
may
have
a
glut
of
syringes.
I
don't
know,
but
I
know
that
this
puts
a
tremendous
burden
on
our
Public
Safety
staff,
whether
that's
BPD
or
our
fire
department,
both
of
which
units
we
know
were
concerningly
understaffed.
R
At
this
point,
and
so
you
know
when
we
we
put
more
of
these
syringes
into
the
community,
that
puts
more
of
a
workload
on
those
folks-
and
you
know
at
this
point
I
think
you
know
we're
just
asking
that
we
think
about
how
many
syringes
or
or
being
put
into
the
community
and
what
is
the
data
being
collected
with
these
and
is
the
the
syringe
Services
Program
meeting
the
needs
of
the
community
as
it
was
originally
put
into
place.
R
A
A
S
Randy
Cassidy
I'm
Community
member
in
regards
to
following
up
on
Mr
Spooner
Moore's
conversation
regards
to
it.
The
question
I
have
in
regards
to
this
the
harm
reduction,
Public
Safety
and
the
syringe
program,
whether
he's
a
vital
services
to
take
care
of
our
residents
that
are
in
need
the
aspect
of
how
we
would
identify
those
syringes
that
are
put
out
in
our
community
that
are
coming
from
our
program.
S
I
based
on
being
around
I've,
picked
up
several
syringes
that
have
been
on
job
sites
where
I've
been,
which
has
created
some
harm
issues
and
I've
actually
had
some
of
my
technicians
say
you
know,
there's
they've
been
thrown
down
and
I
actually
took
them
to
the
health
department
and
asked
were
these
coming
from
our
program,
and
how
can
we
find
out
why
or
where
they're
being
come
from?
Just
like
you
know,
tracking
down
where
the
where
it
comes
from
and
I
was
told
that
there
was
no
way
to
do
that.
S
The
question
I
would
have
in
regards
to
Ms
calendar
is:
is
there
a
way
to
purchase
syringes
that
would
identify
if
it's
coming
from
our
services,
so
that
we
would
be
able
to
do?
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
yeah,
where
we
would
be
able
to
know
whether
it's
a
color
code,
a
some
type
I,
have
no
idea
if
it
can
be,
but
it's
just
a
matter
of
trying
to
go
public
safety
and
harm
reduction,
they're
doing
a
great
job,
but
we
need
to
identify
these
as
we're
well,
where
thank
you.
Thank.
A
T
Mayor
hi,
everyone,
Forrest,
Gilmore
and
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
Beacon,
Inc
and
I
just
wanted
to
express
my
support
for
this.
This
Amendment
this
ordinance.
What's
it
called
appropriation,
thank
you
and
we
certainly
are
a
beneficiary
of
that
and,
in
particular,
I
wanted
to
share
what
what
it
does,
which
is.
It
supports
our
street
outreach
program
and
literally
without
this
funding.
Beacon
does
not
have
a
street
outreach
program,
so
it's.
U
T
Incredibly
important
and
one
of
the
most
things,
the
most
important
things
that
Beacon
does
through
its
Street
outreach
program,
is
help
people
access
the
coordinated
entry
system,
which
is
how
we
help
House
people
and
move
people
into
permanent,
Supportive,
Housing
and
Rapid
rehousing.
So
without
that
kind
of
funding,
we
actually
lose
that
ability
to
connect
with
people
on
the
street
and
provide
those
that
basic
service
for
them.
T
We
also
use
this
funding
to
provide
transportation
assistance
for
family
reunification,
so,
for
example,
if
someone
lives
in
another
Community
has
another
a
home
in
another
Community,
but
is
stuck
here
and
is
unable
to
get
the
transportation
they
need
to
get
back
home.
We
provide
funding
for
that,
including
primarily
through
bus
tickets,
but
sometimes
through
through
other
means,
like
Uber
or
whatever.
T
If
there's
not
a
bus
route
there
and
just
to
acknowledge
the
problem
or
the
challenge
related
to
this,
and
why
downtown
Outreach
continues
to
be
a
really
important
need
in
our
community
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
know
that
homelessness
in
our
community
has
actually
been
about
the
same
going
back
for
to
about
2015.,
and
this
kind
of
defies
a
myth
in
our
community
that
that
homelessness
is
exploding
or
skyrocketing
or
growing
out
of
proportion.
T
But
actually
the
numbers
have
been
fairly
steady,
going
back
to
three
going
back
to
2015,
ranging
between
320
and
340
on
according
to
our
pit
counts,
which
is
a
daytime
one
day,
representation
of
amounts
experiencing
homelessness,
but
what
we
have
seen
that
has
increased
quite
substantially
going
back
to
2019.
T
We
saw
a
big
increase
in
two
things.
In
2019
we
saw
a
significant
increase
in
the
number
of
people
experiencing
homelessness,
claiming
they
have
a
severe
mental
illness,
and
we've
also
seen
that
number
increase
dramatically
and
the
people
who
say
they
have
a
severe
substance
use
disorder.
So
those
two
numbers
have
increased
quite
significantly
more
than
doubled
from
what
they
were.
T
Prior
to
that
time
we
saw
that
specifically
start
in
2019,
and
it's
more
or
less
stayed
around
the
same
number
since
then,
but
a
big
leap
from
2018
to
2019,
and
that's
that's
what
people
say
when
they
say
homeless
is
exploding,
is
I,
think
they're,
seeing
these
mental
health
issues
and
substance
use
issues,
and
that's
why
this
program
is
so
important
to
relate
to
work
with
those
people
in
those
situations.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Q
Nowhere
I
mean
not
in
what
we're
asking
for
funding
for
does
not
expand
the
syringe
program,
we're
talking
about
disposal
and
it
really
actually
addresses
some
of
the
concerns
that
they
had,
that
there
are
surrenders
being
left
on
the
street
and
so
we're
looking
at
increasing
ways
for
proper
disposal
of
syringes,
medications
that
people
have
around
the
house
could
be
could
be
drugs.
Q
There
could
just
be
medications
that
you've
gotten
that
have
gotten
old,
that
you
know
you
don't
know
what
to
do
with
or
you
can't
get
someplace
to
dispose
of
them,
and
so
there
will
be
units
to
to
do
that
kind
of
disposal
and
education
around
around
that
also,
we
talked
about
naloxone,
so
the
harm
reduction
part
of
it
that
we're
talking
about
does
not
increase
the
number
of
syringes
and
and
it's
not
funding.
This
funding
in
particular,
is
not
for
that,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
clear.
Great.
N
So
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
thing
that
Mr
Gilmore
said
I'm
more
concerned
about
that
I'd
like
to
know
the
data
that
he's
citing
is
that
collected
by
Beacon.
Is
that
collected
by
a
third
party?
Is
that
data
that
the
city
Administration
is
familiar
with?
N
How
when
I
mean
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
say,
for
example,
what
he
just
said
that
the
number
of
homeless
have
not
really
changed
since
2015?
It's
the
you
know
what
he
cited.
Are
you
familiar
with
the
sources
he's.
Q
Talking
so
I
am
assuming
that
his
information
is
coming
from
the
point
in
time
counts.
So
the
point
in
time
count
is
done
annually
in
January
sometime
when
it's
really
really
cold,
but
but
it's
done
annually
and
then
the
state
gathers
data
from
all
over
the
state
and
then
we
get
those
results
so
yeah,
so
I
am
familiar
with
it
and
it's
and
it's
actually
available
publicly
on
the
State
website.
N
Have
would
you
mind
characterizing
the
point
in
time.
Counts
I
mean.
Would
you
agree
with
Mr
Gilmore
that
on
those
citations
or
is
all
the
data
he
cited?
It's
not
all
from
the
point
in
time.
Count
right.
Q
A
E
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
information
I
appreciate
it.
How
how
does
the
treatment
for
incarcerated
populations
kind
of,
like
dovetail
with
with
the
settlement
and
what
we're
doing
at
the
city.
Q
So
I
would
I
would
assume
that
the
treatment
for
incarcerated
populations
will
fall
with
the
county,
and
the
county
also
received
a
part
of
the
opioid
settlement
that
was
distributed
by
the
state
and
so
I'm,
assuming
that
they
are
taking
care
of
that.
Q
C
Appropriation
and
I'm
pleased
to
see
that
our
opioid
settlement
funds,
the
first
part
it'll
trickle
in
over
the
next,
what
18
years
kind
of
a
ridiculous
scheme,
but
that
our
first
installment
of
the
funds
will
go
to
good
use
and
that
we
and
I'm
also
pleased
to
see
that
there
was
a
partnership
with
the
county
for
that
grant
funding
and
look
forward
to
hopefully
hearing
a
positive
outcome
for
that
application.
So
thank
you.
Miss
calendar
Anderson
for
your
work
on
this
and
Ms
Kate
for
your
legal
advice.
L
C
C
Pardon
me
all
right.
C
Move
that
appropriation,
ordinance
2302
be
read
by
the
deputy
clerk
by
title
and
synopsis.
Only.
A
B
Appropriation
ordinance
2302
specially
appropriate
funds
from
the
general
fund
for
construction
of
the
trades,
District
tech
center
and
Associated
construction,
Management
Services
synopsis.
This
ordinance
appropriates
3
million
61
391
dollars
from
the
general
fund
to
help
pay
for
construction
of
the
trades,
District
tech
center
and
Associated
construction,
Management
Services
secured
by
the
dimension
Mill.
A
V
Executive
director
for
the
mill,
the
Mills
bloomington's
award-winning
entrepreneurship,
Center.
Thank
you
to
presidents,
Gambler
and
the
rest
of
city
council
for
allowing
me
to
speak
tonight,
I'm
here
with
John
Fernandez
bloomington's
former
mayor
and
one
of
the
Mill's
newest
staffers,
to
make
a
case
for
funding
the
tech
center,
which
is
a
critical
investment.
We're
asking
you
to
make
in
bloomton's
Innovation
ecosystem
before
I.
Introduce
John
I
want
to
highlight
two
other
Investments
Bloomington
has
made
in
our
Innovation
ecosystem,
which
it
paved
the
way
for
the
one
that
we're
asking
you
to
consider
today.
V
The
Mills,
a
public-private
partnership
with
the
city
of
Bloomington
they've,
been
supportive
from
the
beginning
and
have
walked
in
lockstep
with
us.
Since
five
years
ago,
some
folks,
much
smarter
than
I,
decided
to
renovate
a
century-old
Furniture
Factory
to
bring
Bloomington
into
the
digital
economy.
They
transformed
a
vacant
building
with
no
utilities
into
an
entrepreneurship
Center,
and
my
staff
turned
that
into
the
fastest
growing
co-working
space
in
Indiana.
V
We've
added
vital
programming
to
build
our
Innovation
ecosystem
ecosystem.
Further
flywheel
fun
is
bloomington's
Venture
Capital
firm
that
focuses
on
early
stage
technology
startups
in
partnership
with
Elevate
Ventures
Indiana's
Venture
Capital
firm.
Our
startups
have
attracted
more
investment
in
the
last
five
years
than
the
previous
ten
Coda
Academy
upskills,
the
unemployed
and
underemployed
in
jobs
of
the
future,
like
cyber
security,
I.T
management
and
web
development
with
Ivy
Tech.
We
train
100
folks
annually
in
our
current
cohort
and
50,
don't
hold
a
college
degree
and
80
percent
are
minorities.
V
This
inclusive
Innovation
program
is
so
successful
that
other
Counties
have
asked
us
to
expand
so
this
summer
we're
expanding
to
Washington
and
Crawford
counties
the
rdc's
second
investment
was
in
January
when
they
executed
a
management
agreement
with
the
mill
to
Market
and
develop
and
manage
the
trades
District.
Our
first
order
business
was
recruiting
the
leader
for
this
initiative
when
I
look
at
the
background
needed
for
this
job
real
estate,
startups
investment,
Economic,
Development
and
experience
at
the
federal
and
local
government
levels.
The
Venn
diagram
has
a
picture
of
John
Fernandez
right
in
the
middle.
V
After
two
successful
terms
as
mayor,
he
worked
for
Obama
in
the
economic
development
then
worked
for
the
world's
largest
law
firm
in
startup
investing.
We
found
not
just
the
best
person
in
Bloomington
but
the
country,
and
with
that,
it's
my
pleasure
to
introduce
John
Fernandez.
The
mill
senior
vice
president
of
innovation
and
strategic
Partnerships.
U
Thank
you,
members
of
council,
thanks
Pat
for
those
nice
introductory
remarks.
As
Pat
said,
we're
really
grateful.
U
This
investment
tonight
is
about
more
than
just
a
building.
It's
really
about
helping
us
build
the
capacity
we
need
to
support
the
kind
of
economic
growth
we
need
in
the
this
fourth
Industrial
Revolution
that
we're
all
living
in.
If
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
flip
up,
I've
got
a
few
slides.
I
want
to
share
with
you,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
everything.
That
was
in
the
memo
that
we
submitted
to
the
council,
and
we
certainly
would
look
forward
to
your
questions
tonight.
U
So,
as
Pat
mentioned,
the
mill
is
grateful
to
be
in
a
position
to
be
leading
the
development
for
the
trades
district
and
specifically
the
tech
center,
but
we're
part
of
a
larger
team.
Certainly,
the
city
of
Bloomington
is
Redevelopment
commission,
along
with
the
Bloomington
Economic,
Development
Corporation
or
critical
Partners.
In
fact,
they
were
the
co-applicants
on
the
Eda
grant
that
the
city
was
awarded
in
2021.
We
also
have
Partners
at
Indiana
University
and
at
Ivy
Tech,
who
participated
in
that
Grant
application
as
well.
U
Members
of
all
those
membership
or
supporting
team
members
are
here
tonight
and
we'll
you'll
hear
from
them
shortly.
We
also
have
joining
us
virtually
a
couple
of
our
colleagues
at
Studio
access
they're.
The
design
firm
in
Indianapolis
has
been
doing
the
development
work
to
date
on
this
particular
building
and
we'll
also
have
with
us
appropriately
members
of
the
administration
that
can
speak
specifically
to
some
of
the
technical
issues
related
to
the
use
of
funds
and
the
appropriation
itself.
U
So
what
I
want
to
do
is
really
talk
about.
Why
we're
doing
this
and
again
it's
not
just
about
a
building,
but
it's
really
about
how
we're
building
the
kind
of
community
we
want.
Bloomington
and
Monroe
county
is
a
laggard.
We
have
so
many
good
things
going
on
in
our
community,
but
the
data
is
the
data.
Our
medium
amount
household
income
lags
behind
pure
cities
across
Indiana
and
across
the
country,
and
that's
despite
having
one
of
the
highest
educated
workforces
anywhere.
U
So
our
people
are
learning
more,
but
they're
earning
less
and
part
of
the
reason
for
that
is
the
makeup
of
our
employment
base
and
that's
why
it's
important
to
build
the
capacity
to
kind
of
build
these
high-growth
Tech
oriented
companies
that
can
support
what
we
all
want,
which
is
a
community
where
there's
some
great
opportunities
for
our
people
to
make
a
good
living
and
the
tech
center.
If
you
look
at
the
tech
sector,
the
earnings
across
all
different
education
levels
tend
to
have
a
premium
compared
to
other
sectors.
U
U
So
I
mean
we're
really
well
positioned
to
become
that
kind
of
Hub
to
drive
this
Regional
strategy
in
Indianapolis.
There's
tremendous
resources
for
sure
the
new
16
Tech
development,
along
with
the
work
that
Indiana
University,
is
doing
there
in
Purdue
with
the
reinvestment
around
Luddy,
and
some
of
the
engineering
programs
is
really
important.
Crane
with
Westgate
there's
significant
new
Investments
related
to
the
chips
Act
and
the
many
private
employers
who
are
located
there.
U
We
already
have
great
relationships
with
many
of
these
assets
and
they'd
like
to
come
to
the
mill
to
the
trades
District
as
a
great
hub
for
the
kind
of
work
we're
we're
trying
to
do
so
with
the
development
here.
We're
going
to
be
really
well
positioned
to
be
that
kind
of
Innovation
Hub
for
the
region,
we'll
be
well
positioned
to
create
new,
public-private
Partnerships
across
the
region,
but,
most
importantly,
we'll
be
able
to
be
a
home
here
in
Bloomington
for
these
emerging
Industries
as
they
grow.
U
U
Will
you
know
really
Target
that
kind
of
commercialization
and
acceleration
and
commercialization
is
some
of
the
intellectual
property
coming
out
of
crane
coming
out
of
Indiana
University,
providing
technical
assistance
to
help
these
emerging
growth
companies
get
the
support
they
need
through
other
kinds
of
either
private
or
public
funding
sources,
as
well
as
in
critically
important
is
working
the
network
of
subject
matter
experts
in
these
key
industries
that
know
how
to
help
growth
stage
companies
grow,
and
so
it's
you
know,
having
the
relationships
in
the
supply
network
having
the
relationship
with
the
potential
customers.
U
So
if
we
talk
about
the
building
itself,
we
hope
and
believe
that
this
building
is
going
to
set
a
a
new
standard
for
our
office.
Development
in
the
city
of
Bloomington
it
what's
proposed,
is
about
a
22,
000
square
foot,
Class
A
office
building,
that's
designed
to
meet
the
minimum,
lead
silver
certification,
so
we
think
that's
important
to
kind
of
drive
home
the
values
that
we
all
share
here
in
Bloomington.
Regarding
the
kinds
of
development
we
want
to
see
happen.
U
Some
of
the
you
know,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
do
have
a
couple
of
representatives
from
Studio
access
joining
virtually
so
when
we
get
into
the
Q
a
if
you
want
to
go
deeper
into
some
of
the
building
design,
issues,
they're
prepared
and
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
there.
But,
most
importantly,
some
of
the
key
attributes
are
the
solar
array
on
the
roof.
We
think
it
will
generate.
You
know
at
least
25
percent
of
the
electricity
needed
to
run
the
building.
U
The
green
roof
is
certainly
there,
along
with
the
underwater
or
underground
storm
water
collection
systems
that
we
think
will
be
really
important
to
mitigate
any
of
the
storm
water
runoff
issues,
the
materials
that
are
being
selected
to
finish.
The
building
are
all
being
carefully
looked
at
in
terms
of
supply
chain
to
have
minimum
impacts
on
other
important
sustainability
factors.
Like
I
said,
we've
got
folks
here
from
the
design
team
that
can
address.
Some
of
the
questions
you
might
have
in
terms
of
the
investment
itself
was
proposed.
We
believe,
is
a
really
good
leverage
model.
U
So
when
the
the
city
of
Bloomington
initially
received
as
three
and
a
half
million
dollar
Grant
from
the
Eda,
the
Redevelopment
commission
made
a
preliminary
commitment
of
almost
two
million
dollars.
This
was
back
in
2021
since
then.
We've
had
the
benefit
of
you
know.
Further
design
and
Engineering
development
work
performed
by
serial
access.
We've
had
the
not
so
pleasant
developments
of
of
high
inflation
in
the
construction
industry.
It's
not
unique
to
Bloomington,
but
it's
certainly
something
that
we
are
experiencing
here
as
well,
and
so
the
total
estimated
cost
for
the
building
is
8.5
million.
U
That
includes
all
the
hard
costs
off
cost
and
a
small
you
know
fund
to
support
additional
tenant
improvements,
as
we
recruit
tenants
for
the
building.
But
the
important
part
of
this
slide
is
not
the
cost,
but
really
the
benefit.
When
the
grant
was
submitted
back
in
2021,
the
IU
public
policy
Institute
did
a
feasibility
study
for
the
applicants
for
the
city
and
the
BDC.
U
They
ran
a
model
and
determined
that
over
a
10-year
period,
we
would
anticipate
about
a
218
million
dollar
total
economic
impact
that
includes
about
866
new
jobs,
almost
52
million
in
new
private
investment
and
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
think
that's
a
pretty
strong
return
on
investment.
So
essentially
the
city
of
bloomington's
get
a
you're
going
to
have
a
22
000
square
foot,
Class
A
office,
building
sustainably
built
for
the
price
of
five
million
dollars.
U
So
we
think
it's
a
pretty
good
deal
for
the
city,
but
again
the
most
important
Roi
isn't
necessarily
the
big
economic
numbers,
but
the
actual
the
impact
on
people
who
live
here
or
want
to
live
here
who
need
better
paying
jobs.
Again
we
lag.
We
lagged
our
peers
even
before
the
pandemic
and
there's
pretty
good
evidence
that
post-pandemic
that
our
rate
recovery
has
been
slower
than
other
peer
cities,
and
part
of
the
reason
for
that
is
that
we
need
to
have
a
innovation
ecosystem
that
meets
the
moment
of
the
kind
of
economy
that
we're
in.
U
We
have
tremendous
assets,
great
organizations
who
have
worked
over
the
years
in
this
space,
but
there's
an
opportunity,
in
fact
the
need
to
up
our
game
and
again,
here
too,
when
we
look
at
the
you
know
the
work.
This
is
not
for
just
you
know,
folks,
with
master's
degrees
coming
out
of
Luddy,
which
we
hope
they
will
be
here
in
in
droves,
but
the
kind
of
economy
we're
trying
to
build,
really
is
inclusive.
In
that
it
can
surprise.
U
U
We
have
an
opportunity
to
build
on
the
momentum
that
the
city's
already
invested.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
build
on
the
momentum
of
not
just
the
mill
but
the
Kiln
Collective,
the
new
investment
at
the
showers
administration,
building,
the
investment
in
the
trades
District
parking,
a
garage,
the
Investments
That
Indiana
University,
is
making
with
their
renewed
interest
in
Regional
and
Statewide
Economic
Development,
with
the
renewed
Investments
and
new
Investments
through
ready
the
state's
program
through
the
Investments
at
chips
and
the
federal
Investments
at
an
unprecedented
level
and
around
the
chips
industry.
U
This
is
a
great
moment
for
us
to
continue
to
build
the
kind
of
economy
we
want
and
leverage
all
the
Investments
that
have
already
been
made
to
date.
So
I'm
going
to
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have,
but
before
I
do
that
our
partners,
who
are
part
of
the
Grant
and
part
of
the
program
are
here
and
I'd
like
to
give
them
an
opportunity
to
be
more
articulate
than
I
was
in
advancing
this
project,
and
we
hope
that
the
council
will
support
this
appropriation
I.
Think.
L
W
W
Thanks
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
dimension
Mill
and
the
new
trades
District
I've
been
involved
in
the
dimension
Mill
for
quite
a
while.
So
personally,
I've
been
an
investor
in
companies
that
have
been
started
there
I've
my
wife
and
I,
have
donated
to
Startup
to
facilitate
startups
to
facilitate
education
within
the
mill.
I
was
a
member
of
the
board.
That
was
when
the
original
boards
that
was
founding
the
mill
and
at
a
professional
level
with
cook
we
have
been
a
supporter
both
financially
and
with
resources.
W
It's
been
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
interact
with
people.
We
might
not
interact
with
before
to
see
what's
happening
with
new
technologies
to
see
what's
on,
The
Cutting
Edge,
and
so
we
have
been
I
both
personally
in
in
from
a
from
a
cook
level.
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
project
and
are
very
happy
to
continue
supporting
it
and
I
want
to
tell
you
why,
because
we
always
assess
you
know
as
the
years
go
on.
W
Is
this
where
we
want
to
continue
to
invest,
and
so
maybe
I
just
share
our
thinking
on
why
we
continue
to
support
the
mill
and
the
idea
of
the
Charities
District?
The
first
thing
is
the
the
team:
that's
there
I'm
fortunate
I
get
to
travel
around
different
parts
of
our
state
and
other
states
and
I
frequently
have
the
ability
to
tour
organizations
like
this.
A
lot
of
communities
have
Dimension
Mills
of
some
sort
and
it's
interesting
to
walk.
W
Not
all
of
them
are
successful
and
when
you
walk
into
them,
not
all
of
them
are
vibrant.
Not
all
of
them
are
occupied.
Not
all
of
them
have
are
building
startups,
it
takes
leadership
and
it
takes
a
team.
That's
passionate
about
doing
that.
We're
very
fortunate
I
think
this
community
to
have
Pat
and
now
John
Fernandez
and
his
team
and
all
their
team.
They
have
done
a
remarkable
job.
W
Building
this
organization
and,
quite
frankly,
it's
been
pleasantly
surprising
to
see
how
well
they
have
done
managing,
what's
a
very
challenging
issue,
to
do
something,
that's
very
hard
to
do
to
bring
coalitions
together
like
this.
So
we
start
with
a
management
team
and
we
say:
do
we
trust
them?
Do
we
they
have
the
right
Vision.
Are
they
doing
the
right
things
for
our
community
and
so
far
we
have
been
very,
very
pleased
that
way.
W
Then
I'll
just
tell
you
about
some
of
my
experiences
that
we've
had
there
and
one
of
the
experiences
I'll
just
share
this
with
you.
We've
had
people
leave
cook
and
go
work
for
startup
companies
at
the
Mill.
It's
great,
but
we've
also
had
people
who
have
had
startups
and
they're
working
and
they
decide
they
want
to
leave
and
come
work.
A
cook
I
think
that's
the
idea
right,
I
think
that's.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
create
an
ecosystem
that
allows
people
to
learn
from
each
other
and
to
move
around
and
have
opportunities.
W
Also
I
was
part
of
a
group
that
was
looking
to
create
an
organization
that
could
help
support
student
athletes
in
the
New
Concept
of
nil.
You
may
have
heard
about
this,
and
so
we
were
asking:
where
should
they
work?
Where
should
they
be
a
part
of
the
community
to
start
their
startup
essentially
and
the
answer
for
them?
Clearly
was
we
want
to
be
at
the
Mill
and
we
want
to
be
around
people
who
have
that
same
energy
and
who
have
that
same
vibrancy,
and
so
they
are
located
there
and
they're.
Doing
very
well.
W
Just
so
happens
that
down
the
hall
from
them
is
a
startup
company.
That's
helping
student
athletes,
build
Brands
and
they're
coordinating,
they
have
lunch
together
and
start
creating
new
ideas,
and
so
I
think
for
that
those
combination
of
things,
the
the
vibrancy
with
which
the
team
has
built
the
organization,
the
importance
of
the
community
and
then
the
ecosystem
that
helps
to
develop
here,
I
think,
is
attractive
for
a
lot
of
reasons.
You
can
look
at
the
job
creation,
but
I'll
say
something
from
a
recruiting
perspective.
We're
trying
to
recruit
people.
W
People
want
to
see
vibrancy,
they
want
to
see
new
ideas,
and
this
is
really
a
part
of
that
they
see
and
they
go.
This
is
working
and
we
think
Bloomington
has
a
fission
vision
for
the
future,
so
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
I
know.
A
lot
of
people
have
talked
about
remote
remote
working.
Do
we
need
an
office
space?
W
You
know
the
world's
changed
a
lot,
but
I
do
think,
particularly
in
these
areas,
where
you
have
startups,
where
you
have
people
who
are
struggling
to
create
new
ideas.
New
companies,
there
is
a
real
value
in
being
together
and
being
part
of
an
ecosystem
and
learning
from
each
other,
and
not
only
that,
but
it
creates
a
nice
a
center
of
gravity,
if
you
will
for
organizations
like
cook
for
Indiana
University
for
the
city
of
Indianapolis
to
engage
and
start
to
work
together.
W
A
X
I'm
Valerie
Pena
I
am
with
the
office
of
University
relations
at
Indiana
University.
Thank
you
for
the
council
for
having
your
interest
this
evening.
You
know
Indiana
University
has
been,
and
continues
to
be,
of
an
avid
supporter
of
the
development
of
the
trades
district
from
our
initial
and
ongoing
support
to
the
mill
to
providing
the
money
for
the
feasibility
study
that
was
prior
to
the
Eda
application.
X
Iu
has
recognized
that
in
all
of
us
it
is
our
best
interest
to
invest
in
this
community
wherever
and
whenever
it's
possible,
when
it
was
announced
that
Bloomington
had
been
awarded
the
3.5
million
dollar
Grant
I
remember
turning
to
our
vice
president.
At
the
time
and
saying
you
know,
this
is
truly
going
to
be
a
great
return
on
our
investment.
Creating
a
major
Innovation
Hub
for
the
Bloomington
region
is
not
only
desirable.
X
It's
critical
to
our
long-term
efforts
to
grow
the
city's
overall
economy
and
develop
a
place
where
many
of
our
IU
graduating
students
can
stay
thrive
in
their
work,
build
a
family
and
call
Bloomington
home
and
I
use
soon
to
be
released.
2030
strategic
plan,
all
three
pillars
address
meeting
the
needs
for
the
changing
dynamics
that
are
in
our
state's
Workforce
and
expanding
efforts
to
translate
research
and
creativity,
creative
activity
to
the
public.
X
This
is
through
a
shared
commitment
and
Innovations
discoveries
and
Innovation
with
the
goal
of
reaching
economic
Vitality
across
the
state
and
in
particular,
in
our
home
basis,
building
a
community
and
in
this
case
a
district
that
fully
Embraces
entrepreneurship
and
commercialization
is
vital
to
connecting
what
is
happening
at
the
University
to
the
community.
The
IU
office
of
innovation
and
commercialization
has
already
committed
to
deliver
in-kind,
Consulting
and
advisory.
X
Services
IU
Ventures,
which
is
part
of
our
unit,
continues
to
assist
IU
student
faculty
and
alumni
startups,
all
who
will
benefit
from
the
tech,
Center's
assets
and
my
office.
University
relations
is
working
specifically
on
identifying
opportunities
that
will
become
available
through
the
chips
and
science
act,
Indiana,
ready,
2.0
and
importantly,
the
Lilly
endowment
college
and
Community
collaboration
initiative.
X
We
recognize
that
our
community
is
at
a
Tipping
Point
Indiana
University
has
moved
in
this
direction
because
of
our
2030
plan.
We
know
we
have
to
be
completely
involved
that
Tipping
Point
is
that
magic
moment
when
an
idea,
a
trend
and
in
this
case
an
opportunity
crosses
a
threshold
and
spreads
like
a
wildfire.
We
are
hoping
that
you
all
will
support
the
spark
that's
going
to
take
to
the
flame
that
will
make
Bloomington
really
truly
an
ecosystem
for
not
only
great
business
ideas
but
a
place
that
people
know.
A
U
Can
read
the
room
we?
We
do
have
other
co-applicants
here
as
well
from
the
Redevelopment
commission,
the
BDC
and
Ivy
Tech,
but
I.
If
it's
the
council's
desire
to
move
on
to
q
a
and
if
you
have
questions
for
the
administration
around
some
of
this,
you
know
technical
aspects
of
the
funding
or,
if
you
have
questions
for
Studio
access,
we're
happy
to
keep
moving.
If
that's
your
pleasure.
A
Or
we
could
do
both
just
in
that
order,
so
what
is
the
will
of
council?
Let's
go
to
council
questions.
If
we
may
council
member
voland.
N
Thank
you
also.
I
want
to
not
only
welcome
back
mayor
Fernandez,
but
acknowledge
that
he
is,
among
other
things,
also
a
former
member
of
this
body.
So
welcome
back
council
member
Fernandez,
you
say
that
one
thing
I
want
to
know.
You
said
there
that
there
would
be
866
new
jobs,
estimated
as
a
result
of
this
I
I
didn't
catch,
who
estimated
that
it.
U
Was
the
Indiana
University
public
policy
Institute?
Okay?
They
are
one
of
the
think
tanks
through
the
O'neill
school,
okay.
N
That's
helpful,
I
mean
I,
know
that
such
numbers
take
into
account.
It's
they're
kind
of
a
broad
number
one
thing
I
want
to
know
is
how
many
people
will
physically
how
many
employees
will
physically
fit
in
the
new
building,
that's
being
considered
well,
what's
the
capacity
of
the
building
going
to
be.
U
Well,
the
total
Square
growth
square
footage
is
22,
000
square
feet,
give
or
take
the
leasable
space
because
we
have
some
social
space.
We
have
some
meeting
room
space
training
space,
but
the
total
leasable
space
is
12
577
square
feet.
U
It's
really
hard
to
predict
how
many
actual
full-time
employees
will
be
supported
in
that
facility
because,
as
we
all
are
experiencing
a
lot
of
companies,
have
you
know
hybrid
kind
of
employment,
so
I
think
the
rule
of
thumb
for
office
space
is
usually
about
three
people
per
thousand
square
feet:
I'm
sure
that
Drew
or
Ashley
from
Studio
access
could
address
that
better
than
I.
But
you
can
do
a
rough
calculation.
N
N
N
U
Like
I
say
we
don't
in
fact,
we
have
very
little
spec
office
space
at
all,
that's
appropriate
for
this
kind
of
collaboration
space
as
as
Pete
Youngman
was
talking
about,
there's
something
special
about
having
companies
that
are
in
these
related
Industries
co-located
and
having
places
for
engagement
and
collaboration.
So
it's
important
to
not
just
have
you
know
a
cube
Farm
in
a
building
maximizing
the
space,
but
having
quality
space
that
people
actually
want
to
come
to.
You
know
most
people
don't
want
to
go
to
LA
office
just
to
stare
at
a
screen.
U
They
want
to
come
to,
engage
and
so
building
a
space.
That
really
has
the
kind
of
amenities
the
environment.
The
surrounding,
if
we're
successful
with
other
developments
in
the
trade,
District,
really
create
a
kind
of
very
Dynamic
Hub
where
people
are
going
to
want
to
be,
and
companies
will
pay
a
premium,
at
least
to
be
in
those
locations
for
talent,
attraction
or
retention.
So.
U
Well,
the
way
that
they
calculate
the
total
jobs
as
a
direct
and
and
induce
so
part
of
the
direct
or
the
companies
themselves
that
are
physically
located
they're,
also
the
the
jobs
created
in
building
the
facility,
but
also
the
supporting
you
know,
companies
that
are
part
of
that
industry.
So
it's
all
the
jobs
related
to
the
activities
in
the
building,
not
just
the
in
the
individual
tenant
organizations.
Well,.
N
With
all
due
respect
to
the
construction,
trades
I
want
to
set
aside
the
jobs
that
are
essentially
one-off
for
the
construction
of
the
building
and
get
to
you
know
when
this
building
is
firing
on
all
cylinders.
How
much
continuing
employment
is
there
as
a
result
of
it?
Yeah
well
is
Studio
access
here
online.
Y
Yes,
my
name
is
Ashley
Thornberry
and
I
am
the
project
manager
of
Studio
access
and
I
can
adjust
the
question,
so
my
understanding
is,
the
question
is
how
many
tenants
could
occupy
the
building?
Is
that
correct.
G
So
far,
thank
you
and
welcome
mayor
Fernandez.
We
appreciate
you
being
a
part
of
this
new
Venture
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation
so
far.
My
question
has
to
do
with
the
development
of
the
entire.
It's
12
acres
right.
That's
considered
part
of
the
trades
District
aside
from
the
tech
center.
That
obviously,
is
going
to
be
the
priority
here.
What
recruiting
plans
do
you
have
for
attracting
other,
maybe
more
fully
established
tech
companies
to
start
you
know
developing
along
the
whole
property.
U
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
great
question
and
it's
early
days
for
me
so
I,
you
know
the
city
through
the
city,
council
and
other
organizations.
Have
you
know
over
the
years
outlined
a
fairly
Clear
Vision
in
some
regards
for
what
we'd
like
to
see
happen
in
the
trades
District
it
prob.
Those
plans
probably
need
some
refreshing
to
reflect
the
current
Marketplace,
but
you
know
in
in
my
opinion,
I
think
probably
the
most
important
thing,
I've
heard
as
I've
gone
out
and
interviewed
lots
of
different
stakeholders.
U
U
You
know
restaurants
places
for
people
to
meet
I
mean
maybe
Workforce
housing,
although
the
way
the
plans
have
been
identified
for
the
trades
District,
the
land
to
the
west
of
Rogers
Street
has
been
prioritized
for
more
housing,
so
we
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
create
a
hub,
that'll,
be
an
exciting
place
for
people
to
be,
but
we're
going
to
need
to
continue
to
work
on
the
marketing
and
get
busy
on
targeting
potential
developments
in
the
area
that
can
really
feed
the
kind
of
environment
we
want.
U
C
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
Mr
Fernandez
for
your
presentation
and
to
the
supporters
here.
So
my
main
questions
are
about
the
Creed
funds
and
so
I'm
not
sure
who
could
best
answer
them.
C
Z
Alex
Crowley
director
economic,
sustainable
development.
It
was
the
latter,
so
we
you
know
early
on
the
RDC
made
an
early
commitment,
as
Mr
Fernandez
said
to
in
part
actually
help
us
get
the
grant
to
begin
with.
So
it
was
a
a
necessary
initial
match
and
then,
as
time
progressed
in
the
construction
design
phases
of
a
building,
you
get
greater
and
greater
accuracy
as
to
what
the
projected
cost
might
be,
and
so
over
the
course
of
18
months
or
so
we
started
to
see
with
greater
Clarity
what
that
total
would
end
up.
Z
C
Thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
of
follow-ups.
I
understand
that
the
the
Creed
funds
are
have
reverted
back
to
the
city's
general
fund
after
the
the
vidac
was
dissolved
last
Friday.
C
Are
they
accounted
for
separately
from
the
budget
that
the
council
adopted
last
year?
Do.
Z
You
know
I
will
maybe
defer
to
controller
Underwood.
If
he's
on
the
he's
on
the
call
right,
yeah
to
speak,
specifically,
I
think
you're,
asking
about
the
exact
placement
within
what
fund
it
sits.
Yeah,
okay,.
Z
So
if
I
could
get
back
to
you
with
that
answer,
hopefully
I
may
be
able
to
even
get
it
during
the
course
of
discussion
this
evening.
C
Z
Is
no
specific
plan,
we
would
suggest
that,
despite
the
fact
that
that
the
the
Industrial
Development
Fund
has
expired
and
bidac
has
expired,
that
the
original
intent
of
those
funds
should
be
kept
in
mind
and
and
kept.
You
know
that
we
keep
as
closely
aligned
with
the
original
intent
as
possible,
but
beyond
that
we
really
haven't
earmarked
them
for
anything
in
particular.
At
this
time,.
N
U
Well,
the
importance
of
the
ass
tonight
will
enable
us
to
stick
to
a
schedule.
That's
really
important
for
this
project,
because
you
know
the
Eda
has
guidelines
in
terms
of
Milestones
that
need
to
be
met,
and
one
of
those
Milestones
is
that
the
building
needs
to
be
constructed
and
completely
constructed
in
early
2025.
U
The
schedule
has
slipped
a
little
bit
because
some
of
the
delays
during
the
pandemic
and
some
of
the
rethinking
of
the
building,
so
the
short
answer
is
that
here's
a
sequence.
So
it's
not
a
short
answer.
Sorry
before
we
can
get
approval
from
the
Eda
to
go
to
bid,
we
have
to
show
that
the
funding
has
been
officially
encumbered.
U
So
once
we
have
the
funding
confirmed,
we
have
a
little
bit
more
work
to
do
on
the
construction
documents
and
specifications
which
our
colleagues
from
Studio
access
can
speak
to,
but
we're
like
95
percent
there.
So
we
have
to
submit
those
documents
to
the
Eda
for
their
approval,
which
could
take
six
weeks
before
we
can
actually
bid.
So
that's
a
long
way
around
of
saying
that
if
we
can
meet
the
schedules
that
we
envision,
we
can
break
ground
in
early
Q3
of
2023
and
we
anticipate
a
14-month
construction
cycle.
N
N
U
I'm
not
sure
I
understand
I
what
I
said.
What
I
thought
I
said
was
that
there
was
the
issues
of
the
pandemic,
some
of
the
delays
related
to
that
and
some
of
the
design
issues
and
there's
not
issues
isn't
the
right
term.
It's
just
continuing
to
refine
the
design.
I
think
you
know
the
building
was
reducing
size
a
little
bit
so
there's
some
retweaking
of
the
design
editions
of
more
solar
panels,
for
example.
So
there's
some
work,
that's
been
going
on
to
refine
the
project.
E
Fernandez
I'm
going
to
ask
you:
what's
that
what
would
be
the
ongoing
cost
to
the
city?
As
the
you
know,
say
the
project
everything's
great
it's
going
on
what
what
would
be
the
ongoing
costs
you
know
annually.
U
The
aspiration
is
that
there
won't
be
ongoing
costs
and
that
will
hit
us.
You
know
a
sufficient
level
of
occupancy
to
actually
cover
all
of
the
related
expenses,
the
actual
the
operating
expenses
that
are
projected
based
on
the
original
design,
and
we
will
have
to
refine
those
as
we
get
the
construction
bids
in
and
really
have
finalized
costs,
the
utilities
and
some
of
the
basic
system
support
operating
support
is
about
a
hundred
and
four
thousand
dollars.
U
That
doesn't
include
the
agreement
that
the
city
has
with
the
mill,
which
will
you
know,
have
to
talk
about
in
the
future
as
well,
and
we
anticipate
addition
to
the
just
a
pure
tenant
office,
rental
income,
additional
income
related
to
some
of
the
meeting
spaces
and
other
programming
that
we
can
do
similar
to
what
has
been
very
successful
at
the
Mill.
F
Okay,
first
of
all,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation.
A
quick
comment.
I
really
do
appreciate
the
efforts
that
you've
made
to
be
transparent
and
share
information
prior
to
this,
and
that
really
helps
a
lot
and
I.
Think
it's
important.
So
thank
you
very
much.
This
question
might
well
first,
if
it's
appropriate
and
I
know,
we
have
a
vision.
F
We
have
some
thoughts,
not
as
much
data,
probably
as
we
would
like,
but
from
a
future
vision,
and
this
might
be
more
appropriate
for
Pat
East,
but
with
regard
to
job
creations
and
obviously
I'm
really
interested
in
how
it
can
have
a
positive
effect
on
the
brain
drain,
which
are
higher
educated
in
keeping
here
but
I'm,
also
just
as
interested,
if
not
more
so,
on
a
broader
diversity
of
lower
income,
more
racial
and
cultural
diversity,
with
these
job
creation.
So
can
you
share
with
us
what
your
vision
I
understand?
V
Yeah
yeah
I'll
take
a
stab
at
that
there's
a
lot
of
layers
in
there
there's
a
lot
of
what
seemed
like,
maybe
intractable
problems,
but
aren't
really
that
intractable.
If
we
just
put
our
heads
together
and
work
on
them
so
so
brain
drain,
let
me
just
address
that
one.
V
So
when
we
first
started
the
mill
one
thing
that
we
knew
that
we
wanted
to
focus
on
was
K-12,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
K-12
program
when
we
partner
with
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
we
partnered
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
to
focus
on
teaching
K-12
entrepreneurial
skills.
So
this
is
a
long-term
play
that
does
a
couple
things.
V
One
is
if
somebody
my
daughter's
in
sixth
grade
now
we
started
teaching
her
entrepreneurial
skills
in
the
fourth
grade
maker,
School
challenge
it's
going
to
take
a
long
time
for
that
seed
to
actually
grow
into
a
business
if
it
turns
into
a
business
at
all
right.
So
this
is
a
really
long-term
kind
of
time.
Horizon.
V
If
she
doesn't
decide
to
that,
she
wants
to
build
a
business.
She
has
really
great
entrepreneurial
skills.
That
she's
learned
like
salesmanship
and
grit
perseverance.
How
to
have
confidence
things
like
that
so
long
term.
We
think
that
if
we
build
these
characteristics,
these
skills
in
in
our
K-12
that
will
come
back
around
to
us
at
some
point,
hopefully
soon
around
later.
But
it
is
a
long-term
play.
V
We
do
think
that
Let
Me
Maybe
address
kind
of
a
more
near-term
concern.
How
do
we,
how
do
we
prevent
prevent
brain
drain
for
folks
of
college
age,
or
maybe
who've
recently
graduated?
How
do
we
prevent
them
from
leaving
Bloomington?
How
do
we
get
them
to
to
stay
in
Bloomington,
so
I'm
mid
40s
when
we
first
started
the
mill-
maybe
maybe
a
little
bit
before
that
there
was
a
group
of
us
that
just
said
kind
of
informally,
there's
probably
10
of
us
bloomington's
our
home.
V
V
We
were
a
fortune
great
place
to
work,
we're
Inc
5000
company,
one
of
the
fastest
growing
companies
in
the
in
the
US
multiple
times,
even
selling
it
right
up
until
right,
through
2020
I
still
got
people
asking
me
when
I
was
going
to
move
the
company
to
Indianapolis,
so
I
think
what
what's
happened
with
with
all
these
folks
in
kind
of
my
age
range,
who
just
decided
we're
going
to
build
our
companies
here,
we're
going
to
stay
here.
This
is
our
home.
Is
we've
inspired
this?
V
Maybe
younger
generation
of
30
somethings
at
20
somethings
to
do
the
same
thing
and
so
we're
seeing
that
at
the
Mill.
So
we
think
long
term
that
or
maybe
kind
of
medium
term
that
those
folks
are
going
to
stay
here,
they're
going
to
Builder
companies
here
their
headquarters
are
going
to
be
here,
they're
going
to
hire
a
higher
folks
here
and
increase
head
counts
in
our
city
and
then
the
other,
the
other
layer
I
heard
in
there
was
how
do
we?
How
do
we
include
everybody
in
our
tent
right?
V
How
do
we
make
sure
that
that
everybody's
included,
so
so,
maybe
just
a
few?
A
few
statistics
diversity
is
super
important
to
to
me
personally
I'm
a
biracial
kid
who
grew
up
in
Martinsville
I.
Think
I've
said
that
publicly
before
so
I'm
seeing
some
head
nuts
already,
if
you
remember
that
it's
important
for
me
to
make
sure
everybody's
included,
not
because
not
just
because
it's
the
the
moral
thing
to
do
we're
all
humans
and
we
all
deserve
a
place
at
the
table.
V
It's
the
financially
prudent
thing
to
do
too.
When
you
look
at
investments
in
the
startup
world,
the
companies
who
do
best
are
the
ones
that
have
diverse
leadership
teams.
Our
leadership
team
at
hanniban
was
50,
50,
male
and
female
split
right
down
the
middle,
and
so
we
carry
that
throughout
all
of
our
programming
at
the
Mill
and
I'm
sure
it'll
carry
throughout
our
programming
in
the
trades
District.
V
So
we
have
reboot,
which
is
our
pre-accelerator
for
the
formal
incarcerated
the
last
or
it's
actually
for
marginal
marginalized
populations,
one
of
which
is
former
Lynn
Karcher.
The
last
one
was
binary
folks,
the
one
before
that
I
think
was
Mom's
reinering,
the
the
workforce
coded
Academy
or
code
school
I
mentioned
that
before
where
half
the
half
the
participants
are
have
high
school
degrees,
only
80
on
our
minorities,
the
number
of
Investments
that
we
make
the
actual
Capital
the
number
of
dollars
that
are
allocated
to
to
minority
Investments
approaches.
V
40
percent
I
think
the
national
average
is
somewhere
around
two
to
four
percent.
So
we're
well
well
above
the
average,
still
have
work
to
do
right
until
it's
actually
equal,
but
we're
making
really
good
progress.
So
so
all
that's
a
long
way
of
saying
it's
really
important
to
us.
I
think
we're
doing
all
the
right
things.
We're
laying
a
lot
of
the
or
planting
a
lot
of
the
rice
seeds
at
the
Mill
and
we'll
carry
all
those
over
to
the
the
tech
center
and
the
trades
District.
F
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
I
just
thought
it
was
very
important
we're
going
to
talk
a
lot
of
things
about
investment
rate
of
return,
but
that
is
a
great
social
addition
add
to
the
social
investment
and
I
think
that's
important
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
sharing.
G
Is
for
Mr
Fernandez?
This
Administration
has
recently
established
a
501c3
board
and
it's
our
understanding
that
they
are
to
oversee
city-owned
assets,
including
Hopewell,
Waldron
BCT
and
the
trades
District.
So,
if
you
would,
could
you
please
describe
what
your
relationship
will
be
with
this
board
and
how
you
maybe
interacted
with
them
at
the
very
early
start
of
your
tenure
here.
U
Well,
it
you
know
it's
my
understanding
from
the
conversations
we've
had
with
the
administration,
as
well
as
what
I've
read
in
in
the
media
that
the
501c3
isn't
going
to
focus
on
the
trades
District
in
fact
they've,
since
we
have
this
management
agreement
between
the
mill
and
the
trades
District
that
need
to
kind
of
extend
the
capacity
of
the
city
for
these
kinds
of
activities
is
being
addressed
via
the
the
mill.
So
I
don't
believe
that
that's
the
the
case
that
it
will
be
under
the
501c3
I
mean.
U
G
G
Z
Alex
Crowley
back
again,
director
of
economic,
sustainable
development.
So
let
me
answer
that
question
first
and
I
also
have
an
answer
for
council
member
Piedmont
Smith.
So
in
terms
of
the
501c3,
the
cbci,
you
know,
I
think
the
net
was
cast
pretty
wide.
Originally
at
the
original
announcement.
The
general
idea
behind
it
is:
if
it
ain't
broke,
don't
fix
it
right,
and
so,
as
we
look
around
at
the
assets-
and
we
say
all
right,
what
are
what
are
the
best
organizations
to
manage
given
assets
at
any
given
time?
Z
And
you
look
at
sort
of
the
obvious
four
right
now
Hopewell,
which
is
more
of
a
potential
Waldron
BCT
Mill,
which
are
you
know
in
some
form
or
another
owned
by
some
portion
of
the
city.
As
Mr
Fernandez
said,
we
are
very
confident
in
the
mill
and
the
mill
management
team
both
to
handle
the
mill,
handle
the
trades
District
overall
and
handle
the
the
new
potential
tech
center.
So
from
that
perspective,
the
cbci
really
at
this
point
has
no
role
in
the
case
of
the
Waldron.
Z
Similarly,
we've
we've
had
a
long-standing
relationship
with
BCT
management,
bus,
Trembley,
theater
management,
and
they
are
doing
and
have
done
for
a
long
time,
a
very
good
job
managing
that
facility.
So
you
know
I
think
some
of
the
early
questions
about
whether
this
501c3
would
suddenly
displace
or
somehow
sit
over
or
get
involved.
At
this
point,
we
really
have
sort
of
gotten
a
little
bit
more
specific
about
that.
To
understand
that
Hopewell
is
a
huge
project
and
they're
going
to
have
their
hands
full.
Z
Looking
at
that,
managing
that,
so
the
initial
focus
on
you
know
Hopewell
will
take
a
lot
of
the
attention,
if
not
all
the
attention
of
the
cpci,
what
happens
in
the
future
I
think
remains
to
be
seen,
but
right
now,
that's
that's
how
we're
thinking
about
the
the
various
facilities
and
and
who's
best
position
to
manage
them,
and
then
Council
council,
member
Piedmont
Smith.
You
asked:
where
is
the
money
and
it's
in
the
general
fund,
so
there
is
no
specific
sub
Fund
in
the
general
fund.
C
And
I
have
a
question
a
different
question:
go
ahead,
so
the
Mr
Crowley
thank
you
for
your
response
am
I
to
understand
that
there's
going
to
be
no
separate
accounting
for
the
funds
that
used
to
be
Creed
funds
that
is
just
going
into
the
general
fund
and
can
be
spent
whatever
way
the
administration
sees
fit.
Z
No
I'm
sorry
I
was
answering
specifically
like.
Where
is
it
right
now
in
terms
of
how
it
gets
managed
in
the
future?
I
think
that
sort
of
needs
to
be
discussed
and
remains
to
be
seen,
but
where
you
know
when
it
gets
reverted
into
the
fund,
there
is
a
fund,
and
that
is
where
it's
sinning
currently
so
so
I
think
you
were
asking.
Z
Is
there
some
sort
of
set
aside
already
in
place
that
has
received
that
money
and
the
short
answer
to
that
is
no,
and-
and
you
know
that
that's
according
to
Mr
Underwood.
C
Okay,
I
have
another
question:
I
think
this
is
probably
for
Mr,
Fernandez,
I
I,
think
I
heard
you
say
that
there's
a
and
maybe
I
misinterpreted
or
misheard
that
there
there's
a
hundred
four
thousand
dollar
basic
operating
agreement,
but
that
this
was
in
response
to
miss
to
council
member
Smith's
question
about
the
ongoing
costs
that
the
aspiration
is.
There
won't
be
any
that
the
tenant
leases
will
cover
costs,
but
there's
a
hundred
four
thousand
dollar
basic
operating
agreement
can.
U
You
describe
that
yeah
I'll
be
happy
to
and
I
to
clarify
that
and
I'll
send
the
Council
of
follow-up
note
with
the
spreadsheet
that
I
did,
but
the
104
000
is
the
estimated
operating
expenses
related
to
the
building,
so
it's
basically
utilities
and
maintenance,
and
so
that
will
be
new
costs
once
the
building
is
up
and
running,
those
utility
costs
will
probably
be
lower.
In
the
beginning,
when
it's
not
100
occupied
and
as
more
Tenants
come
on,
more
electricity
is
used.
U
Those
costs
will
go
up
more
trash
collection,
recycling
Etc,
so
that
is
the
operating
expense
that
will
be
incurred
when
the
building
is
completed.
That's
just
the
expenses,
the
revenue
from
the
tenancies
as
well
as
programming
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
kinds
of
miscellaneous
income
we
can
generate,
should
cover
that
and
I
said
I.
Think
you
know.
If
we
have
a
a
rental
rate
of
around
26
dollars,
a
square
foot,
we
need
somewhere
around
25
to
30
percent
occupancy
to
fully
cover
those
operating
expenses
and
I.
Think
we'll
get
there.
U
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
energy
and
a
lot
of
it
capacity
in
our
economy
to
absorb.
You
know
that
amount
of
real
estate,
because
it's
only
about
4
000
square
feet
of
Office
Space.
L
U
Right
and
that
that
agreement
is
I
think
technically
will
expire
prior
to
completion
of
construction,
so
that
that's
something
that
the
city
council
on
the
administration
will
have
to
address
right
now,
it's
a
two-year
agreement.
N
N
Can
you
tell
us
I'm,
not
sure
who
to
ask
this
to,
but
of
the
jobs
that
are
anticipated
to
be
created
here?
How
many
of
them
will
be
for
people
who
do
not
have
a
degree?
I
know
we're
a
college
town,
but
there
are
people
here
who
don't
have
a
degree?
Is
there
anybody
who
can
give
us
feedback
on
that
like?
What
do
you
expect.
N
Jen
Pearl
is
has.
N
Need
a
minute
all
right!
Well,
while
that
question
is
being
asked,
I
want
to
tee
up.
N
Another
question
like
we
can
ask
her
to
come
up
when
she's
ready,
but
my
single
biggest
concern
here
is
how
we
decided
to
use
Creed
funds,
because
we
also
have
Tiff
funds
available
and
one
thing
I
know:
I'm
remembering
the
end
of
Mayor
Fernandez's
second
term,
we
approved
the
Walnut
Street
and
the
Morton
Street
garages
in
2001
and
2003,
and
if
those
are
20-year
bonds,
they
should
both
be
paid
off
this
year
and
so
I
feel
like
there
is
room
plenty
of
room
in
the
Tiff,
the
downtown
Tiff
for
us
to
have
used
funds
from
there.
N
Instead
of
from
the
Creed
and
I'll,
follow
this
up
by
pointing
out
that
at
the
time
the
Creed
was
approved,
the
then
equivalent
of
Mr
Crowley
was
Ron
Walker.
He
said
the
new
Creed
District
provides
a
strong
reading
from
the
press
release.
City
press
release
from
2004
provides
a
strong
incentive
for
investment
and
gives
the
city
of
a
new
source
of
Revenue
to
pay
for
improvements
to
public
infrastructure
quote
we
can
use
the
revenue
to
improve
sidewalks
and
streetscapes,
as
well
as
for
the
conversion
of
the
rail
line
to
a
multi-use
path.
N
So
you
know
like
that,
does
not
to
me
say
we
should
build
a
building
to
create
jobs,
even
though
I
think
that's
an
important
thing
and
I
feel
like
the
the
money
I
mean
like
we
have
yet
to
really
do
anything
like
that
with
Creed
money
in
the
20
years
that
it's
existed
so
I
I
appreciate
the
idea
that
the
administration
I
mean
well
the
first
question.
I
guess
I
would
ask
the
administration
while
she's
doing
researches.
N
Does
the
administration
have
any
specific
objection
or
objectives
for
the
other
seven
million
dollars
of
the
10
million
left
in
the
downtown
Creed
other
than
the
3
million
are
asking
for
for
tonight?
There's
seven
million
left
what,
if
any
plans
that
the
administration
have
for
that
money?.
Z
So
Alex
Crowley
again
I
I,
would
say
a
couple
things
and
answer
your
questions.
So
the
first
thing
is,
it's
actually
interesting
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
original
formation
documents
of
the
of
the
Creeds
themselves.
D
Z
Which
you
know
show
sort
of
the
intent
of
what
what
really
was
hoped
for
as
a
result
of
establishing
the
Creed.
So
one
thing,
I
think
to
understand
is
that
there
are
two
types
of
creeds:
there's
the
Creed.
We
have
a
Thompson
Creed
which
both
of
which
have
expired,
but
the
Thompson
Creed
and
the
downtown
Creed,
and
when
you
think
about
them,
the
Thompson
Creed,
which
actually
was
the
first
one
in
the
state
of
Indiana,
was
really
a
site-specific
Creed.
So
there
was
a
kind
of
a
sight
problem.
Z
Site-Specific
problem
Thompson
in
this
case
the
downtown
which
came
after
it
was
a
geographical
challenge
right,
so
so
they're
a
little
bit
different
from
each
other
I
would
say
the
Thompson
one.
Actually,
where
there
has
been
expended
there,
there
have
been
substantial
expenditures
from
that
Creed
along
the
way.
If
you
look
at
how
that
has
turned
out
relative
to
the
original
challenge,
that's
a
pretty
good
good
news
story.
It
helped
to
activate
a
site.
Z
After
joining
the
city
was
an
investment
to
help
at
the
time
envisage
further
grow
its
capacity
within
the
The
Fountain
Square,
and
so
you
know
that
that
grew
the
job
base
there.
It
was
in
exchange
for
job
growth,
now
I
think
you're,
asking
also
more
generally
about
some
of
the
potential
uses
and
and
what
our
plans
are.
As
someone
else
had
asked
the
question
before
we
don't
have
specific
plans
for
the
remaining
seven
million.
Z
We
would
say
that
it
would
be
at
least
useful
at
at
the
time
of
of
evaluating
potential
expenditures,
whether
it's
from
the
downtown
balance
or
from
the
Thompson
balance
to
to
keep
those
original
intents
in
mind
and
look
at
the
kinds
of
things
that
were
contemplated
back
then,
which
involve
you
know
three
or
four
different
types
of
categories.
If
you
go
to
the
original
documentation,
I,
don't
know
that,
there's
anything
that
really
mandates
us
but
I
it
would.
N
I
agree
with
you
on
the
Thompson
Creed
I.
Don't
think
it's
relevant
here,
I
think
you're
right
that
it
was
targeted
to
a
very
specific
industrial
expense
and
I
believe
that
in
the
case
of
both
envisage
and
this
request,
while
it
doesn't
bring
up
the
image
of
smoke
stacks
that
the
word
industrial
brings
up,
you
know
the
fun,
the
body
that
we
just
you
just
dissolved,
was
the
Industrial
Development
Fund
or
the
Industrial
Development
advisory
commission,
but
I
mean
I've
been
representing
the
downtown
for
20
years
and
I've
always
read.
N
N
In
and
and
last
week,
I
proposed
for
the
first
time
use
of
several
million
dollars
from
that
fund
for
a
downtown
circulator,
a
trolley
bus,
which
is
something
we've
talked
about
for
15
years
and
I
believe
whose
time
has
come,
but
that
kind
of
idea
will
connect
everyone
downtown
we'll
have
uses
among
dozens,
hundreds
of
entities
and
individuals
every
day
which
is
different
than
sort
of
this
much
more
Industrial
Development
and
which
is
why
I'm
wondering
why
it
wasn't
Tiff
funding
that
was
requested.
N
Why
didn't
you
go
to
the
RDC
and
get
Tif
funding
for
this
instead
of
using
Creed
funding,
because
I
also
know
that
we
could
stand
to
say
improve
utility
infrastructure
around
the
square.
There's
ancient
struck
infrastructure
around
all
the
alleys
around
the
square.
That's
going
to
be
an
expensive
proposition,
but
it's
the
kind
of
thing
that
this
money,
I
think
was
was
in
envisioned
to
to
use.
So
why
not?
It's
Tiff
funds,
especially
considering
that
the
parking
garage
have
been,
are
or
should
be
paid
off
this
year.
Z
L
Z
Misleading
in
this
day
and
age,
the
Creed
acronym
is
community,
revitalization,
enhancement,
District
right
and,
if
you
think
of
this
as
Community
revitalization
enhancement,
that's
what
this
is,
and
we
are.
What
we're
talking
about
from
the
tech
center
is
precisely
that
and
if
you
look
at
again
some
of
the
formation
documents,
the
original
resolutions
and
you'll
see
that
this
really
ties
pretty
nicely
to
that.
And
so
you
know
ultimately
that's
a
decision.
Z
You
know
they're
two
pots
of
money
and
it's
a
decision
that
I
defer
to
the
controller's
office
on
I
can
say
that
when
we
looked
at
Creed
itself
and
and
is
at
an
appropriate
place-
and
is
that
does
this
align
with
the
original
intent?
All
of
those
check
the
box.
N
I
I
simply
don't
know
that
I
agree,
I,
think
that
while
it
is
a
permitted
use,
it's
not
the
only
use
and
again
I
have
yet
to
see
any
proposal.
That
is,
for
that
other
use
and
I
mean
I
hope
you
can
understand
why
I'm
asking
like
this
is
the
a
I
have
to
be
concerned
about
the
whole
of
downtown,
not
just
one
part
of
it,
and
while
again
the
industrial
doesn't
imply
Smoke
Stacks,
it
is
just
one
use.
N
I,
don't
disagree
that
it
won't
benefit
the
city
but
I'm
asking
when
we're
going
to
see
a
proposal
like
the
one
I'm
suggesting
that
will
benefit
not
just
industry
but
individuals,
visitors,
currently
existing
retail
businesses,
government
entities,
both
city
and
county
people
who
are
traveling
into
and
out
of
town.
This
would
benefit
all
of
them,
and
you
can
hear
that
it's
contemplated
in
the
definition
of
the
Creed.
In
fact
it
says
that
more
than
it
says
we
should
specifically
try
to
find
industry.
N
Here
we
talk
about
rehabilitating
buildings,
but
then
letting
third
parties
decide
what
to
do
with
them.
That
I
think
is
what
the
original
intent
was
so
I
mean
it
sounds
like
you're
saying
that
the
the
I'm
really
frustrated,
because
it
sounds
like
you're
saying
that
it's
only
because
industry
counts,
that's
the
only
thing
we
should
think
about
tonight
and
I
think
more
than
industry
counts
and
I'd
like
again,
I.
Don't
understand
why
you
wouldn't
go
to
Tiff
funds
instead
of
creed
funds,
you
just
it
was
sort
of
an
arbitrary
choice.
N
Z
And
and
I'm
sorry,
maybe
I
wasn't
clear,
I'm,
not
saying
that
those
other
things
we
have
officially
ruled
them
out
and
they
are
no
longer
relevant
for
for
coverage.
That's
right.
So
the
first
thing
is
just
so.
You
understand
that
those
are
all
relevant.
They
were
all
listed
in
the
original
creation
of
the
Creeds
they're.
Still
on
the
table.
You
ask
the
question:
when
are
you
going
to
see
a
proposal
for
other
things
and
we
look
forward
to
bringing
that
to
you?
Z
The
reality
is
the
just
last
week
the
bidac
disbanded
itself
just
last
week.
The
fund,
you
know
basically
ended.
We
had
some
work
that
we
were
doing
with
the
Department
of
Revenue,
to
kind
of
Recon
reconcile
the
final
allocations,
and-
and
so
so.
This
is
all
very
new
and
I
think
we
would
all
look
forward
to
bringing
the
council
proposals
and
hearing
proposals
from
the
council
if
there
were
interesting
funding
opportunities.
Z
A
Okay,
let's
go
to
public
comment.
If
you
would
I
I'm
guessing
there
are
several
here
in
in
Chambers.
Who
would
like
to
offer
comment?
Could
you
raise,
could
I
see
a
show
of
hands?
I
see
two
three
okay
and
side
conversations:
four
Mr
Lucas.
Can
you
extend
our
invitation
on
Zoom?
Please.
M
There
are
members
of
the
public
on
Zoom
that
would
like
to
comment
on
this
appropriation
ordinance.
Please
let
us
know
by
using
the
raise
hand,
feature
which
you
can
find
under
your
control
bar
by
clicking
the
reactions
button
or
the
more
button.
You
can
also
send
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak,
and
we
will
recognize
you
that
way
and
again.
This
opportunity
for
public
comment
is
the
statutorily
required
public
hearing
on
this
item.
A
L
A
A
AA
Good
evening
my
name
is
Pearl
and
I'm.
The
president
of
the
Bloomington
Economic
Development
Corporation.
We
were
co-applicants
with
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
RDC
for
the
US
Eda
Grant
and
we're
thrilled
to
see
these
next
steps
with
the
mill
we
wanted
to
underline
a
couple
of
things.
This
project
is
a
key
piece
in
building
a
21st
century
local
economy,
to
the
questions
that
were
asked
earlier:
it's
not
about
serving
industry,
it's
about
providing
employment
for
the
families
and
the
Neighbors
in
our
communities.
Our
national
and
local
economies
have
shifted
significantly
over
time.
AA
Major
local
employers
have
come
and
gone
like
RCA,
Thompson
and
GE,
and
economic
development
is
about
creating
prosperity
and
connection
to
jobs
for
our
neighbors,
we're
fortunate,
with
10
000
people,
each
working
in
life
sciences
and
higher
education
in
Monroe
County
and
many
others
in
advanced
manufacturing
defense
in
the
public
sector.
But
the
pandemic
hit
many
of
these
industries
very
hard,
and
it
was
a
stark
reminder
of
the
needs
diversify
our
employment
and
our
private
sector
Revenue
base.
The
tech
center
is
a
part
of
these
efforts
with
the
estimated
impact
of
866
private
sector
jobs.
AA
The
breakdown
of
that
is
530
direct
jobs
and
336
induced
jobs
and
industries
that
work
with
tech
we
checked
and
while
the
IU
public
policy
feasibility
study
did
not
get
into
a
breakdown
of
wages,
you
know
this
age.
This
wage
range
will
be
served
in
this
way,
Etc
they
did
look
at
peer
cities
and
they
looked
at
developing
industry
clusters.
We,
what
we
were
really
trying
to
do
is
develop
Talent
pipelines
as
a
part
of
this
concept.
AA
For
example,
there's
a
partnership
with
Ivy
Tech
in
the
business
plan
that
connects
with
a
broader
scope
of
people
across
the
community,
which
Steve
Bryant
will
I
believe
dress
address
during
his
comments.
We
wanted
to
underscore
that
this
is
a
really
unique
time
in
our
community.
National
and
Statewide
opportunities
include
the
U.S
chips
and
science
act
and
Indiana
ready.
These
can
help
us
grow
as
that
Hub.
AA
That
was
mentioned
earlier
part
of
that
Innovation
Corridor
that
runs
from
Indy
to
Crane,
there's
new
leadership
at
IU
and
new
leadership
coming
in
our
public
sector
with
these
upcoming
elections,
and
if
done
right,
this
is
a
very
rare
opportunity
to
launch
ourselves
into
a
strong
future.
The
trades
District
in
tech
center
are
far
more
important
than
just
infrastructure.
It's
more
it's
about
far
more
than
a
building.
This
is
about
building
an
employment
in
Innovation
ecosystem
to
serve
our
neighbors
for
the
future.
AA
It
creates
a
hub
that
the
physical
Hub
is
the
Catalyst
for
people
to
come
around
and
building
that
collaboration.
When
people
move
to
this
community,
they
are
often
trying
to
see
okay,
I
I
moved
here
for
this
job,
but
what
about
my
spouse?
Are
there
opportunities
for
me
in
the
future
once
this
first
job
maybe
goes
away,
and
so
this
is
a
part
of
that
in
diversifying
the
jobs
that
we
have
for
the
future,
because
we
know
our
our
industry
clusters
have
really
changed
over
time.
So
we
want
to
thank
you
for
considering
this.
AA
A
AB
Well,
thank
you.
Everybody
for
the
time
today,
good
to
see
everybody
obviously
I'm
here
to
support
the
project.
We've
been
a
part
of
the
project
since
the
beginning,
I
helped
review
the
proposal
for
the
Eda
and
the
Strategic
plan,
for
it.
I
also
serve
as
part
of
the
executive
committee
for
the
hopeful
rollout
of
the
tech
center
itself,
Ivy
Tech
being
an
institution
that
provides
certifications,
degrees.
AB
For
you
know,
your
two-year
college
degrees
are
going
to
be
in
demand
by
companies
in
the
mill
as
I've
toured
other
facilities
like
this
around
the
country,
Indianapolis
Ann,
Arbor,
others,
you
know
not
every
job.
That's
in
there
is
is
a
four-year
degree
or
an
engineering
degree.
It's
you
know
there
are
people
in
there
in
the
administration.
There's
certainly
people
there
in
human
resources,
your
core
business
operations,
finance
that
you
know
would
be
in
that
more
technician,
level
technician
a
little
job
and
several
times
you've
referenced
the
chips
act.
AB
Those
are
technician
level
jobs
to
make
products
that
are
are
made
for
for
microchips,
we'll
be
looking
forward
to
doing
some
of
that
work
at
Ivy,
Tech
we're,
obviously
a
key
partner
here,
because
we
want
to
see
our
students
have
opportunities
for
internships,
a
particular
potential
apprenticeships
and
and
certainly
for
employment
and
work
opportunities
at
the
the
companies
that
will
be
operating
out
of
the
tech
center
itself
and
then
also
within
the
operations
there.
So
we
see
a
huge
opportunity
there.
Obviously
everybody
else
has
talked
about
the
the
importance
of
growing
this
ecosystem
of
companies.
AB
I
do
nothing
but
work
with
small
businesses
every
day.
Most
of
those
are
one
to
five
employees
and
they're,
not
mainly
getting
that
much
bigger,
but
for
those
that
do
have
that
opportunity
for
that
rapid
at
growth,
that's
what
this
building
is
for
and
that's
what
this
facility
is
going
to
build,
wrap
around
support
to
to
create.
As
we
see
those
go,
we
want
to
be
a
key
partner
in
that
and
again,
why
we're
supporting
it.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
A
AC
I'm
Jane
Martin
and
I
chaired
the
the
first
Mill
board
and
had
the
privilege
of
working
with
Pat
East
in
its
development
year
and
the
first
year
of
its
operation
and
I.
AC
AC
There's
great
college
towns
that
are
great
places
to
live
with
lots
of
minimum
wage
jobs
and,
on
the
other
end,
there's
great
communities
that
are
retirement
communities,
but
also
minimum
wage
jobs.
The
mill
is
the
Catalyst
for
the
core
economy
and
the
tech
center
is
the
place
where
mill
companies
graduate.
AC
AC
tutorials
for
lemonade
for
young
kids.
Opening
up
lemonade
stands,
reboot
Pat
mentioned
the
retraining
for
ex-felons,
and
this
culture,
I'm
quite
sure,
will
carry
on
into
the
evolution
with
the
tech
center.
AC
R
Hi
again,
Council
Eric
spoonborn,
greater
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce
I
won't
take
too
long
here.
I'll
be
brief
and
won't
belabor
the
point
much
longer,
but
we
do
think
that
this
is
an
appropriate
use
to
Creed
funds.
For
this
purpose,
I
appreciate
Mr,
volan's
concern
for
creed,
we've
had
some
good
conversations
and
hope
we
can
continue
to
talk
more
about
ways
that
we
can
deploy
those
funds
in
the
way
that
Mr
Crawley
had
talked
about
with
their
original
intent.
R
I
think
we
can
come
up
with
some
good
ideas
for
that,
but
you
know
what
we're
really
excited
about
is
the
866
jobs
that
this
will
produce
the
55
or
51.5
million
dollars
in
total
private
investment
and
the
218
million
dollars
in
estimated
total
economic
impact
for
Bloomington,
and
so
that
is
a
tremendous
return
on
investment,
and
you
know
our
belief
at
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
is
better
business,
Better
Community.
This
really
reflects
all
of
that.
So
just
want
to
urge
all
of
you
to
support
this
again.
R
A
A
N
I
was
hoping
that
Ms
Pearl
was
able
to
give
us
a
sense
of
I,
mean
I
heard
her
cite
866
jobs
and
330
induced
jobs,
but
I'm
still
looking
for
even
the
roughest
figure
of
how
many
jobs
will
require
a
degree.
So
maybe
I
can
turn
to
Mr
East
for
existing
data
Mr
East.
Can
you
talk
about
the
mill
itself
right
now?
The
population
of
this
new
building
will
probably
come
from
the
mill.
Won't
it
from
companies
in
the
mill.
N
V
So
maybe
the
best
way
to
answer
and
do
I
have
a
specific
number
for
you.
Okay,
just
say
that
up
front.
So
let
me
talk
around
it.
A
little
bit.
I
think.
Maybe
the
best
way
to
answer
this
is
to
talk
about
codeword
Academy
and
the
types
of
folks
we're
trying
to
upskill
and
and
retrain
there.
So
most
of
those
folks,
50,
don't
have
a
college
degree,
it's
our
intent
that
we
target
the
unemployed
and
underemployed
to
train
them
for
a
career
in
in
technology.
V
These
folks
can
get
certificates
which
are
for
it.
Management
specifically,
are
very
much
the
the
norm
in
in
it
management.
So
it
managers
that
that
is
the
the
degree
that
you
need
in
order
to
get
that
type
of
job.
It's
called
a
CompTIA
plus
certificate.
You
don't
need
a
a
college
degree.
You
need
a
CompTIA
plus
certificate,
more
and
more
code
schools
in
general,
more
and
more
employers
who
are
hiring
Engineers
developers.
Programmers
are
not
requiring
a
college
degree.
V
The
world
of
technology
changes
so
quickly
that
by
the
time
you
end
up
graduating
after
four
years.
Whatever
technology
you
learned
in
year,
one
is
maybe
obsolete
by
year,
four
and
so
they're
really
looking
at
a
lot
of
these
boot
camps.
Online
programs,
self-paced
programs,
apprenticeships
as
a
way
to
kind
of
bridge
the
gap
on
on
all
of
that
learning
and
provide
workers
for
the
economy
of
today.
V
The
last
thing
I'll
say
is
about
engineer
specifically,
is
the
the
statistic
is
outdated,
but
I
think
in
2020
code.org
predicted
there
would
be
a
1
million
job
job
versus
employee
Gap
in
terms
of
the
number
of
code
coding,
jobs
that
were
available
versus
the
number
of
people
that
could
actually
fill
those
jobs.
V
That
Gap
is
just
widening
because
we
can't
train
people
quickly
enough,
and
so
my
expectation
is
that
you
know
when
my
my
kids
are
my
age,
that
that
not
only
is
not
only
certificates
and
boot
camps
and
kind
of
this
alternate
form
of
of
education
is
not
only
a
viable
path
or
more
viable
path
than
it
is
now.
It's
probably
the
preferred
path
at
that
point.
Does
that
does.
N
That
help
it
helps
some
okay.
I
mean
I.
It's
important
to
me
to
know
that
you
are
I
mean
this
is
the
first
that
someone's
articulated
specific
things
that
are
being
done
to
help
people
without
such
credentials.
So
yeah
I
mean,
if
that's
the
best
answer.
That's
here
tonight
that
I'll
accept
that.
Thank
you.
L
N
I
mean
I
I
feel
like
it's
incumbent
upon
me
to
make
it
I
I,
want
to
say
generally
that
I
support
this
project
I
want
to
vote
for
it.
It
bothers
me
that
you
know
that
I've
talked
about
the
the
concern
I
have
about
jobs
for
the
unprudentialed
I.
N
Don't
think
that's
as
important
to
me
as
the
source
of
funding,
but
I
will
say
this
that,
among
other
things,
we
could
be
spending
this
Creed
money
on
incentives
to
create
jobs,
for
people
who
do
not
have
degrees
in
a
city
where
it's
even
harder
to
find
work,
because
so
many
people
already
have
degrees
so
that
the
fact
that
we,
just
don't
that
there's
I
can't
get
any
concrete
sense
of
that
number
is
one
issue,
but
the
other
is
that
Mr
Underwood
isn't
here
to
answer
that
basic
question
of
why
the
Tiff
fund
wasn't
chosen
instead
of
the
Creed
and
I.
N
Don't
think
it's
a
a
lot
to
ask
to
get
that
question
answered
if
he
can
join
the
call
now
that
would
be
great.
So
we
can
get
that
answer,
but
I
feel
to
I
mean
everyone's
heard.
I'm
the
downtown
representative,
I'm
very
jealous
of
these
funds
and
I
think
that
they
could
and
should
be
invested
in
ways
that
I've
described
again
I'll
be
talking
about
the
proposal.
I
have
but
I
think
these
are
reasonable
questions
to
ask
that
we
should
be
able
to
get
an
answer
from
before
we
cast
a
vote.
N
I
For
the
maker
of
the
motion,
which
is,
does
councilmember
Roland
anticipate
I'm
having
a
hard
time
seeing
what
we're
going
to
learn?
Additionally,
I
guess
with
a
week's
time,
perhaps
more
specificity
about
Mr
controller?
You
know
sorry
Mr
Underwood's
decision
not
to
use
Tiff
funds
based
on
his
expertise,
and
you
know
the
the
relative
merits,
but
but
I'm
not
sure
are
you
hoping
to
that?
They
will
change
the
source
proposed
source
of
the
appropriation
and
the
postponement
will
allow
time
to
discuss
that.
N
If
we
can
get
an
answer
tonight
on
why
they
chose
this
fund,
yes,
I
would
prefer
to
see
the
money
come
from
Tiff,
so
you
know
again
I'm
trying
to
do
my
duty
as
a
representative
of
this
District
and
if
there
is
a
way
to
get
that
answer,
if
there's
a
way
to
make
an
amendment
to
to
change
it,
I
want
to
do
it.
N
I
I
will
apologize
for
my
relative
naivete,
but
I'm
doing
the
best
I
can,
with
the
knowledge
that
I've
acquired
all
along
and
I've,
been
asking
questions
most
of
the
time.
Even
before
this
meeting.
Z
So
I
hesitatingly
come
up
here,
because
this
is
out
of
my
Lane.
What
I
can
tell
you
from
my
observations
of
the
Redevelopment
commission
over
the
years,
the
use
of
the
Tiff
funds
and,
in
particular,
the
very
significant
project,
that's
in
front
of
us
with
Hopewell
and
the
funding
that's
being
committed
to
that?
It's
my
understanding
that
one
of
the
reasons
why
Creed
may
have
been
preferred-
you
know,
as
eligible
over
Tiff
in
this
case,
was
because
that
Tiff
side
is
very
much
not
entirely
necessarily
but
very
much
dedicated
to
the
Hopewell
project.
Z
A
lot
of
the
costs
that
are
coming
up
there.
So
you
know
again:
I
I
would
prefer
to
have
Mr
Underwood,
explain
that
in
Greater
detail,
but
that
that's
that's
sort
of
my
broad
understanding
of
it
and.
Z
But
not
sorry
and
I
was
reminded,
you
know
and
I
think
you
saw
in
Mr
francis's
presentation
that
the
RDC
has
already
committed
two
million
dollars
of
tith.
So
it's
not
like
the
RDC
is
not
taking
a
role
in
this
I
think
you
were
asking
about
the
incremental
amounts,
but
just
to
clarify
that
that
that's
already
on
the
table,
yeah.
B
L
S
Aspect,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
Randy,
Randy,
Cassidy,
member
of
the
RDC.
The
aspect
was
when
we
looked
at
when
we
were
told
from
a
funding
source
standpoint.
We
went
to
Mr
under
Mr
Underwood
explained
to
us
that
there
was
adequate
funds
in
order
to
do
that,
and
this
was
the
best
method
to
move
things
forward
at
the
most
expeditious
way
to
do
it.
N
S
N
Thank
you
so
again,
the
conclusion
I
come
to
is
that
it
was
Mr
Underwood
who
suggested
it,
and
his
reasons
are
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
obscure
I'd
like
to
know
from
him
why
he
chose
this.
Why
we
couldn't
have
gotten
the
money
from
the
tip.
A
C
Yeah
I
would
support
this
motion
for
a
different
reason,
and
that
is
that
I
would
like
a
commitment
from
the
administration
to
separate
separately
account
and
set
aside
the
funds
that
were
part
of
the
Creed
districts
within
the
general
fund,
so
that
they
are
used
for
the
purposes
for
which
they
were
intended.
The
purposes
for
which
businesses
paid
into
the
Creed,
specifically
the
downtown
Creed.
You
know
to
benefit
infrastructure
downtown.
C
So
I
would
like
to
elicit
that
commitment
from
the
administration
before
voting
on
this.
G
Well,
I
would
support
the
postponement
for
the
very
reason
that
council
member
Isabel
Piedmont
Smith
has
suggested
to
get
that
better
commitment
from
the
administration
to
make
sure
that
the
Creed
funds
that
were
earmarked
for
specific
things
in
our
downtown
Improvement
that
we
keep
that
separate
from
other
entities
within
the
general
fund.
So
but
in
terms
of
the
current
funding
from
this
project.
I'm
I'm
perfectly
comfortable
with
the
Creed
funding
and
I
would
be,
would
have
been
ready
to
vote
for
that
this
evening.
But
that
additional
commitment,
I
think,
is
worth
a
postponement.
I
I
I'd
be
prepared
about
this
evening,
I
think
if
a
vote
were
taken
in
favor
of
of
this
appropriation
but
I
think
that's
my
role
in
raises
a
reasonable
Point,
with
respect
to
having
a
more
detailed
answer
from
I
think
the
person
who
was
largely
responsible
for
making
the
choice
about
where
the
funds
were
coming
from
for
the
appropriation
additionally
I
think
councilmember,
Piedmont,
Smith
I
agree
with
the
point
too,
that
we
should
be
tracking
and
thinking
about
the
Creed
dollars
separately
that
have
reverted
to
the
general
fund.
I
Certainly
it
would
be.
It
could
be
done
without
a
special,
separate
accounting
that
we
could
keep
track
of.
That
and-
and
you
know,
demand
a
use
in
line
with
the
Creed
District's
intent,
but
it
would
be
easier
if
it
was
separated
and
so
I
generally
support
that
as
well
and
finally,
this
question
of,
if
there's
support
for
to
postpone,
gets
to
an
issue
that
was
anticipated
when
we
talked
about
using
regular
sessions
as
our
default
method.
I
This
year
and
not
using
Committee
of
the
whole,
which
was
it
allows
greater
flexibility
and
a
lot
of
benefits
to
use
regular
sessions
as
our
primary
vehicle
for
driving
legislation
forward.
I
But
at
the
same
time,
it
results
in
the
possibility
that
a
minority
of
members,
or
even
just
one
member,
wants
more
time
that
they
would
have
had
in
the
situation
of
a
committee
meeting
followed
by
a
regular
session,
but
would
not
necessarily
have
if,
if
the
question
were
called,
we
haven't
really
settled
the
best
mechanism
to
deal
with
that
and
protect
the
ostensible
rights
of
the
minority
and
having
more
time.
And
for
that
reason
too
I'm
sort
of
inclined
to
to
support
the
postponement.
I
F
Thank
you.
My
comments
is
I
am
I
can
support
this
motion.
I
would
prefer
not
to
an
unprepared
to
vote
no,
but
I'm
gonna
I
can
support
it.
But
the
reason
being
is
that
I
I
think
it's
an
appropriate
use
of
the
Creed
fund
that
has
been
requested.
I
also
think
it
is
not
too
much
to
ask
or
impossible
to
do
to
designate
the
remaining
Creed
funds
instead
of
putting
them
into
General.
We
just
want
to
track
it
I
think
that's
what
we
want.
F
That's
all
we
want
is
to
track
that
money
so
that
it
don't
get
sucked
into
the
general
fund,
and
then
we
lose
track
so
I'm
wondering
if
in
a
week
or
whatever
that
we
could
have
that
established
through
Mr,
Underwood
or
Administration
or
someone
just
tracking
it
could
be
part
budget
or
whatever
I
think
that
would
go
a
long
way,
I
think
with
his
body,
absorbing
that
at
least
that's
just
my
my
feelings,
I
would
I
would
be
prepared
to
vote
for
it
tonight,
with
the
caveat
that
we
still
need
to
track
it
and
identified
and
designate
it
so
that
we
know
where
it
is,
but
I'm,
okay,
I
can
support
based
on
the
points
that
I've
heard
this
in
this
motion.
N
They've
generally
been
very
good
about
saying:
okay,
we're
going
to
create
this
many
jobs,
and
then
we
find
out
later
they
created
more
than
that,
and
it
was
easier
for
them
to
do,
because
they
were
a
single
entity
that
was
directly
responsible
for
creating
the
jobs
they
knew,
what
they
were
going
to
to
hire
and
those
tax
abatements
made
sense
on
that
access.
This
is
a
much
more
nebulous
ask
where
the
the
866
is
an
estimate
from
the
IU
public
policy,
Institute
they're
not
actually
directly
making
the
jobs.
N
The
fact
that
we
can't
get
even
the
Vegas
idea
of
how
many
of
those
jobs
would
be
for
people
who
don't
have
the
benefit
of
a
degree
is
enough
for
me
to
be
hesitant
because
again,
I've
become
increasingly
concerned
that
you
know
we
live,
and
it's
I
mean
we
keep
hearing
this
phrase:
college
town,
a
college
town.
What
it
means
is,
we
have
a
much
higher
percentage
of
people
with
a
degree
we're
proud
of
the
University.
N
That's
here,
that's
given
that's
granting
people
degrees,
but
it
doesn't
obviate
Our
obligation
as
a
non-university
as
a
city
to
be
concerned
about
the
people
who
don't
have
degrees
and
so
I
think
it
dovetails
with
many
of
the
other
social
Equity
concerns
that
I've
heard
talked
about
tonight.
I,
don't
think
it's
a
big
ask
to
to
find
out
to
dig
in
even
slightly
more
to
get
a
better
sense
of
how
this
will
benefit
people
without
degrees.
N
But
my
main
objection
here
is
still
only
I
mean
because
again
I,
don't
think
that
this
is
an
inappropriate
use
of
money.
I
am
prepared
to
support
it.
I
am
not
prepared
to
support
it
without
an
answer
for
Mr
Underwood,
who
apparently
was
sort
of
the
primary
decider
of
where
the
funds
would
come
from.
I
have
been
concerned
about
the
Creed
fund.
As
long
as
I've
been
concerned
about
those
two
other
parking
garages
that
are
going
to
be
paid
off
this
year,
why
did
we
build
them?
N
Why
did
we
use
Tiff
funds
to
do
it?
At
least
the
fact
that
we
built
those
garages
served
a
general
audience?
The
term
I
wrote
down
was
general
interest
infrastructure.
This
is
industrial
interest,
infrastructure
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
I
just
know
from
what
I've
read
from
this
press
release
that
was
in
my
first
year
as
a
council
member
I've,
always
known
that
this
was
supposed
to
be
for
infrastructure
that
benefits
the
downtown,
not
necessarily
the
economic
base.
N
E
It
is
a
great
proposal,
it's
a
great
initiative
and
I'm
okay
with
the
idea
that
we
just
seek
a
little
bit
more
clarity
from
Mr,
Underwood
and
I.
Think
that
I
think
that's
okay,
I
I!
It
seems
like
a
very
reasonable
request
from
my
colleague
and
so
I'll
support
that
but
I
I
think
this
is
a
great
initiative
and
you
know
it's
going
to
be
wonderful,
so
we'll
just
we'll
get
to
it.
Thanks.
I
Thank
you
just
a
small
note
that
from
a
process
perspective
for
our
own
administrative
process
in
the
future,
perhaps
we
could
have
avoided
this.
If
we
like
were
more
intentional
about
who's
being
invited
Community
communicating
that
with
all
council
members
and
then
we
could
make
sure
if
we
think
someone
needs
to
be
there
asking
or
that
sort
of
thing,
I'm,
not
not
trying
to
put
fault
to
anyone,
it's
just
I
think
we
can
learn
from
this.
That's
all.
N
Have
a
question
for
our
Council?
Is
it
possible
for
us
to
amend
this
ordinance
to
direct
that
the
money
come
from
a
tiff
rather
than
from
the
Creed?
Is
it
in
the
power
of
the
council
to
make
that
Amendment
tonight.
M
A
A
Okay,
thank
you
to
all
those
of
you
who
have
been
here
tonight
who
have
worked
hard
on
this
proposal
and
who
have
expressed
support
for
it.
We
all
have
different
lenses
through
which
we
look
at
legislation
that
comes
before
us.
One
of
mine
is
on
economic
resilience,
and
this
speaks
very
very
directly
to
that
and
so
I.
Thank
you
for
that.
A
I
I
am
very
inclined
to
support
it
and
I.
I
too,
understand
the
concerns,
particularly
where
accounting
and
funding
is
concerned,
about
Our
obligation
to
answer
all
the
questions
that
we
that
we've
posed
tonight,
so
if
it
would
be
possible
to
have
Mr
Underwood
with
us
next
week
or
or
his
representative,
if
that
makes
sense,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
but
again
I
do
appreciate
what
I've
seen
in
this
proposal
and
I
think
it's
very,
very
promising
and
I
look
forward
to
reaching
a
conclusion
where
that's
concerned.
A
C
I
B
A
Thank
you
all.
We
now
go
to
legislation
for
first
readings.
There
are
none
this
evening,
which
brings
us
to
our
second
period.
Second
of
two
periods
of
public
comment
for
items
not
on
our
legislative
agenda
this
evening.
Are
there
any?
Is
there
anyone
wishing
to
offer
public
comment
here
in
Chambers
and
Mr
Lucas?
Could
you
please
extend
our
invitation.
M
Yes,
if
there
are
members
of
the
public
on
Zoom
that
would
like
to
offer
comment
now,
please
let
us
know
by
using
the
raise
hand,
feature
in
Zoom.
You
can
find
that
in
your
control
bar
by
clicking
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab,
you
can
also
send
a
chat
to
the
meeting
host
to.
Let
us
know
you'd
like
to
speak.
A
AD
AD
This
legislation
had
been
presented
at
first
reading
and
that's
what
happened
tonight.
Of
course
that's
not
legally
possible
because
Bloomington
has
a
piece
of
local
code.
That's
not
a
part
of
Statute,
but
there's
a
piece
of
local
code.
That
says
you
cannot
discuss
or
amend
legislation
at
first
reading.
A
M
Thank
you
just
a
reminder
that
the
council's
scheduled
budget
Advance
first
of
two
budget
advances,
is
coming
up
on
April
25th,
so
I
would
encourage
folks
to
start
thinking
about
that.
My
understanding
is
that
the
mayor's
office
is
prepared
to
go
ahead.
With
that
conversation,
you
do
have
a
second
budget
Advanced
scheduled
I,
believe
mid-june.