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A
D
C
A
Thank
you
we'll
begin
with
our
land
and
labor
acknowledgment.
We
recognize
that
the
city
of
Bloomington
sits
on
native
land,
the
city
as
well
as
City
administrative
buildings,
are
on
the
traditional
homelands
of
the
Miami
Delaware
Potawatomi
and
Shawnee
people,
and
we
acknowledge
that
they
are
past
present
and
future
caretakers
of
this
land.
A
We
move
forward
knowing
and
acknowledging
our
Rich
complicated
and
sometimes
painful
past,
so
that
we
can
learn
from
it
and
create
a
true
land
of
opportunity,
we'll
move
now
into
agenda
summation.
First,
we
have
multiple
sets
of
minutes
to
approve
we'll
then
move
into
a
time
of
reports,
including
council
member
reports.
A
We'll
then
take
up
board
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions.
We
have
no
legislation
for
second
readings
and
resolutions,
and
nor
do
we
have
any
legislation
for
first
readings
this
evening.
We'll
then
move
into
our
second
period
public
comment
for
the
evening
and
then
we'll
take
up
matters
of
council
scheduling
before
we
adjourn.
A
So
with
that
we'll
move
into
the
approval
of
minutes.
I
would
note
that
the
September
16th
set
of
minutes
was
included
on
this
list
in
error.
It
has
actually
already
been
approved,
and
it
was
included
on
this
list
of
minutes
to
approve
this
evening
in
error.
So
that's
why
you
won't
hear
that
date
with
this
motion,
so
council,
member
Rollo,.
D
Sorry,
April
14
2020
special
session
May
19th,
very
I'm.
Very
sorry.
Maybe
let
me
let
me
Begin
Again
I
moved
the
approval
of
the
following
minutes:
April
14
2021
special
session
May
19
2021,
regular
session
August
4th
2021
special
session
August
11
2021
special
session
August
31st
2021
special
session
September
15
2021
special
session
and
September
22nd
2021
special
session.
E
F
A
F
Thank
you
very
much
I'd
like
to
as
lies
into
the
plane.
Commission
I
want
to
briefly
report
what
happened.
We
had
a
pla,
a
plat
commission
meeting
that
was
I'm
the
alternate,
and
so
there
was
one
petition,
and
that
was
that
was
approved
to
convert
a
two
lot
area
into
to
us
called
the
two
lot
subdivision
approved
9-0
by
the
Plaid
committee
and
then
the
planned
commission.
F
What
it
was
was
a
lot
of
Udo
amendments
for
changes
in
the
udl.
Most
of
them
were
technical
amendments.
Some
of
them
were
related
to
language
changes,
some
federal
changes,
so
they
were
related
to
chapter
4,
chapter
5
and
chapter
six
chapter.
F
Most
of
them
are
just
not
substantive,
but
chapter
4
related
to
landscape
plastic
netting.
A
waiver
of
second
hearings
designating
that
for
the
staff
to
be
able
to
make
those
decisions,
I
think
the
one
that's
probably
the
most
substantive
is
on
page
231.
The
discussion
of
the
planned
Commissioners
was
that
the
parking
maximum
on
Commercial
properties
and
perhaps
Municipal
properties,
there
was
a
movement
to
take
the
parking
maximums
out.
F
So
there
were
some
really
great
discussion
on
that.
The
Commissioners
weren't
really
sure
what
that
was
about
and
how
that
related
to
developments
does
it
have
a
deleterious
effect
on
developments
and
does
it
have
a
deleterious
effect
on
building
more
affordable
housing?
F
So
there
was
a
lot
of
questions
that
that
it
was
a
really
good
discussion
and
a
member
of
the
public
also
pointed
out
that
evidently,
the
city
building
will
have
a
four
spots
per
thousand
square
feet
parking
standard
when
everything
else
is
going
to
have
two
spots
per
one
thousand
square
feet.
F
So
so
there
were
some
really
great
discussion
on
that,
and
so
what
what
ended
up
happening
was
we
took
that
out
amended
it?
We
took
that
out
of
the
changes
to
the
Udo,
send
everything
else
forward,
so
the
council
will
hear
that,
but
the
the
parking
maximums
will
be
considered
under
discussion
still
chapter
five
and
six
again
had
pretty
much
some
technical
Corrections
and
some
procedural
changes
to
comply
with
some
some
federal
issues.
F
So
to
be
to
be
mindful
of
our
time
tonight.
If
council
members
have
extended
questions
regarding
the
proceedings,
please
just
send
me
an
email
talk
to
me
and
I'll.
Try
to
answer
your
questions
additionally,
after
the
meeting
after
this
report
and
all
I
will
send
the
tables
of
all
the
changes
to
all
of
us,
and
then
there
will
be.
It
will
be
explicitly
in
in
the
information
and
should
answer
most
most
of
the
questions
for
the
changes.
So
thank
you
very
much.
G
You
my
report
is
going
to
be
pretty
much
straightforward.
I
just
want
to
remind
our
community
that
we
are
fast
approaching.
Another
voting
opportunity
which
will
commence
in
our
May
primary
voting
is
a
major
tenet
of
our
democracy
and
I.
Think
work
has
to
be
done
in
order
to
make
informed
decisions
on
who
we
elect.
G
Now
there
will
be-
or
we
do
have
several
contested
races
and
I-
think
at
last
count
when
I
look
at
my
calendar,
we
have
six
or
seven
or
eight
public
seven
public
debates
and
candidate
forums
that
are
coming
up
and
I
would
strongly
suggest
that
we
educate
ourselves
in
order
to
decide
whom
we
should
elect.
G
Many
of
you
see
us
up
here
every
week
you
know
where
we've
been
I'm
kind
of
interested
in
knowing
where
we're
going
to
go,
and
a
lot
of
that
will
be
based
on
who
we
put
in
offices.
So
just
a
friendly
reminder,
and
hopefully
we'll
do
that
a
time
or
two
again
before
the
primary.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
I
Yes,
just
to
remind
everybody
that
my
monthly
constituent
meeting
is
coming
up
this
Saturday,
it's
always
the
second
Saturday
of
the
month
at
11
A.M,
and
it
will
be
on
Zoom.
The
link
can
be
found
on
the
city
council
website,
so
bloomington.in.gov
forward,
slash
Council,
so
hope
to
see
many
of
you
there.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council.
J
The
musical
it's
the
the
Opera
itself
was,
of
course,
very
ambitious
and
far-reaching
and
Kudos
always
to
the
school
of
music
for
their
excellence
in
all
of
their
Opera
Productions.
What
was
different
for
me
in
attending
this
particular
Opera
was
that
for
the
first
time
ever,
in
my
experience,
the
people
attending
the
Opera
were
wanded.
J
There
were
security
guards,
our
purses
that
we
brought
in
were
searched,
and
this
again
was
something
I
had
never
encountered
in
attending
an
Arts
performance
here
at
the
University
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
was
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution,
given
the
subject
matter
of
the
Opera
or
if
it
was
due
to
some
actual
threat
that
had
been
perceived
by
the
by
the
venue.
But
in
any
case
it
made
me
reflect
on
not
only
the
Opera
itself
and
the
important
lessons
that
it
shares
with
us
about
anti-uh
about.
You
know
anti-Semitism
about
hatred
about.
J
The
Holocaust
makes
me
reflect
on
the
times
that
we
live
in,
in
which
we
are
faced
with
this
kind
of
caution
and
violent
and
turbulent
times,
and
it
was
heartbreaking.
I
mean
on
many
levels,
I
mean
the
the
story
of
Anne.
Frank,
of
course,
is
one
of
of
of
tragedy,
but
the
very
fact
that
we
now
have
to
have
such
increased
security
with
respect
to
the
hatred
that
is
all
around
us.
So
thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you
just
a
quick
note
that,
as
of
last
month
and
continuing
into
this
month,
my
constituent
meetings
have
changed
from
the
third
Monday
to
the
fourth
Monday
of
the
month,
and
since
we
will
not
be
meeting
the
next
two
weeks,
there
will
be
another
occasion
to
remind
folks
about
that,
so
that
will
be
Monday
March
27th
at
5
30
p.m
via
Zoom.
You
can
access
details
for
that
at
bloomington.in.gov,
Council,
there's
a
sidebar
calendar
and
also
a
link
to
the
calendar
for
the
council.
So
just
wanted
to
remind
constituents
of
that.
Thank
you.
K
Currently
we're
the
map
shows
where
City
Hall
is
currently
the
utilities
to
building
is
at
the
utility
Service
Center
building
is
at
the
is,
is
on
Miller
Drive
near
South,
High
School,
and
what
we're
talking
about
that
site
also
has
the
public
a
lot
of
Public
Works
operations.
Adam
will
speak
to
that
later.
We're
proposing
to
build
a
new
campus
for
the
utilities
department
at
Winston
Thomas.
The
history
of
that
site
is
interesting.
This
was
a
wastewater
treatment
plant
that
was
built
in
1934.
K
It
served
the
city
until
the
early
1980s
when
pcbs
were
found
to
be
in
plentiful
abundance
on
the
property.
So
we
went
through
a
number
of
years
discussions
about
incinerators
and
so
forth.
During
the
cleanup
phase,
the
site
was
on
the
national
priorities
list
under
the
super
fund
law.
For
quite
a
long
while,
but
it
has
now
been
really
removed
a
number
of
years
ago
from
the
national
priorities
list
and
it's
available
for
redouble
development
by
the
city.
K
This
is
a
map
of
the
site.
The
the
pink
outline
is
the
rough
boundary
of
the
property.
The
the
PCB
Laden
material
has
been
encapsulated
in
a
berm
about
halfway
between
the
North
and
South
ends
of
the
property.
Over
the
last
a
couple
of
decades,
the
city
has
built
a
training
facilities
and
storage
facilities
for
the
police
department
and
fire
department
and
CBU
has
cited
a
bulk
water
station
on
the
property
as
well.
There
are
a
few
buildings
left
on
the
property.
K
So
why
would
we
be
wanting
to
find
a
new
facility?
The
map
you're
looking
at
here
shows
the
layout
of
the
Miller
Drive
property.
As
you
can
see,
the
facility
is
completely
full.
Cbus
facilities
are
completely
full
of
vehicles.
All
our
heavy
equipment
sits
out
in
the
rain
out
there,
except
for
things
like
vac
trucks,
vacuum
trucks
that
have
water.
In
them,
so
you
have
to
store
them
indoors
in
the
winter
time,
which
of
course
means
that
our
our
garage,
which
is
also
undersized,
is
always
crammed
with
vehicles.
K
At
night
we
also
have
only
an
outdoor
storage
yard,
with
a
small
barn
on
it.
So
we
have,
if
you
drive
down
by
the
Winston
Thomas
property
you'll,
see
a
lot
of
things
like
corrugated,
Culvert
pipes
and
things
like
that
sitting
out
there
in
the
sunshine
uncovered
in
the
grass,
because
we
don't
have
any
place
else
to
store
them.
K
E
M
And
an
honor
to
be
in
front
of
you.
So
as
long
as
been
the
case
with
the
Department
of
Public
Works
we're
more
than
happy
to
accept
some
hand-me-downs.
If
anyone
knows
about
some
of
the
history
of
our
facilities,
that's
where
we've
been
throughout
the
course
of
the
last
30
years.
This
map
just
kind
of
shows
you
for
public
works.
M
You
know,
we've
got
the
administrative
offices
and
our
facilities
team
here
at
City,
Hall,
we've
co-located,
all
of
our
parking
services
to
the
Fourth
Street
Parking,
Garage,
they're,
off
of
Walnut
Street,
the
street
and
Fleet
divisions
as
Vic
was
shown
on.
The
previous
map
are
cited
at
the
Miller
Drive
and
Henderson
location,
and
then
we
have
a
sanitation
garage
down
on
South
Walnut
Street
right
near
where
we've
made
major
investments
in
the
animal
care
and
control
division.
M
We're
spread
out
we're
across
the
city
from
the
southern
ends
to
City
Hall
and
a
few
locations
in
between
when
I
talk
about
those
hand-me-downs.
So
the
street
division
of
Public
Works
up
on
the
top
of
the
hill
here,
where
it
says
DPW,
Street,
division
building.
That's
an
old,
Parks
and
Rec
facility
that
they
used
to
have
for
their
operations.
M
I.
Think
we
figured
out
in
the
late
80s
is
when
that
was.
It
was
transferred
to
the
street
department
when
the
Adams
Street
operations
center
for
Parks
was
built.
The
Fleet
Maintenance
Garage
towards
the
northern
part
of
this
off
of
Miller
Drive.
That
was
transferred,
I,
think
in
the
early
80s
from
Bloomington
Transit
to
the
city
for
Fleet
Services,
so
another
hand-me-down
facility
that
we've
made
the
most
of
you
can
see
here:
the
street
division,
storage
and
Equipment
under
the
gray
and
then
the
salt
storage.
Those
are
facilities
that
we're
currently
using
for
our
operations.
M
Just
like
Vic
we've
got
a
lot
of
trucks
and
heavy
equipment
that
aren't
undercover
that
aren't
protected
from
the
elements.
But
we
make
do
we've
long
long
made
do
and
we're
proud
of
the
efforts
that
we've
had.
It's
been
a
vision
of
mine
for
some
time
since
I've
been
with
Public
Works
to
have
a
centralized
location
where
our
staff
could
all
reside.
If
this
is
to
move
forward
and
hopefully
does
we
envisioned
that
the
CBU
administration
building
would
then
become
home
to
all
Public
Works
operations
outside
of
the
animal
care
and
control
facility?
M
M
M
We're
excited
about
a
future
where
we
could
co-locate
we're
excited
about
a
future
where
we
could
gain
those
efficiencies.
We
know
there
are
a
lot
of
steps
to
take
to
get
there,
but
this
is
this.
Is
this
is
really
exciting
for
us
in
public
works?
I
know.
Vic
may
have
a
few
more
comments
on
what's
next,
but
we
look
forward
to
a
day
when
Public
Works
is
co-located.
So
thank
you.
K
And
just
a
quick
summary
of
what's
next:
what's
happened
so
far
is
we've
completed
the
master
plan
and
we've
updated
it
from
to
take
into
account
the
realities
of
how
the
markets
and
the
construction
business
have
changed
over
the
last
few
years.
The
the
study
was
done
two
years
ago
or
two,
maybe
three
years
ago,
now
it's
pre-pandemic,
so
we've
updated.
All
of
that.
We
before
we
could
proceed
on
a
project
like
this,
we
would
need
to
do
bonding
in
the
Water
Works
bonding
in
the
Water.
K
Works
requires
approval
by
the
utility
Service
Board
the
council
and
then
the
Indiana
utility
Regulatory
Commission.
So
with
with
facing
those
those
hurdles
all
in
turn
before
we
would
really
embark
on
on
the
final
design
and
construction
plan
for
the
property,
we
would
want
to
make
sure
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
bond
for
it.
So
we're
bringing
that
resolution
to
the
utility
service
board
on
March
27th
and
we're
on
the
calendar
for
Council
on
April
12th.
So
we
will
be
bringing
that
forward.
K
That
really
is
pretty
much
the
the
first
big
step
in
the
process.
At
that
point,
we
could
begin
the
actual
construction
design
and
try
to
get
moving
with
construction
as
soon
as
we
possibly
can.
As
Adam
said,
we're
excited
about
the
prospect
as
well,
of
having
the
ability
to
properly
store
our
equipment
and
properly
store
the
materials
that
we
use
to
serve
the
public
and
provide
water,
sewer
and
storm
water
services.
And
thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
tonight
and
I
appreciate
your
time.
G
Thank
you,
Mr
Kelton,
Mr
wayson,
for
your
report.
First
of
all,
with
regard
to
the
pcbs
that
are
encapsulated,
do
do
we
test
that
area?
How
often
do
we
do
that?
To
ensure
that
there's
no
leaching-
and
when
was
the
last
time,
was.
K
G
K
The
whole
project
was
done
under
the
auspices
of
EPA,
so
it
has
been
thoroughly
investigated
so
I,
but
I
will
confirm
whether
we
do
testing
or
not.
G
Okay,
thank
you,
and
since
the
EPA
done
it
means
it
would
never
ever
leak,
no
problems
for
the
rest
of
History
I'm,
just
asking
for
testing
so
that
we're
sure.
Okay,
thank
you
on
the
what's
next,
the
bond
issuance
and
obviously
their
revenue
in
order
to
pay
for
the
bond
and
plus
our
ongoing
infrastructure.
G
K
K
So
in
the
first
two
years
of
such
a
project,
we
would
be
paying
for
any
Debt
Service
out
of
our
current
rates,
which
we
would
do
that
by
reducing
the
annual
expenditures
for
water
main
replacement
by
some
amount
to
cover
the
bonds
for
the
first
two
years,
and
then
thereafter
we
would,
it
would
be,
it
would
be
included
in
the
in
the
rates
going
forward.
This
is
part
of
why
you
have
to
go
to
iurc
First.
Is
that
they'll
know
that
it's
coming?
If
the?
If
the?
If
the?
G
G
M
Yes,
so
when
we
talk
about
the
co-location
of
Public
Works,
our
you
know,
there's
a
lot
to
be
determined.
Yet
this
is
a
very
initial.
We
would
do
some.
We
have
not
embarked
in
our
Master
planning.
This
is
just
kind
of
within
our
conversations
with
the
administration
and
others
in
terms
of
how
we
would
foresee
something
like
this.
You
know
their
buildings
aren't
very
old,
so
it's
a
great
facility
for
us
to
possibly
be
able
to
move
into,
but
you
know
like
the
street
department
right
now.
M
When
I
can
we
go
back
to
the
presentation
by
chance
when
you
look
at
the
street
department,
the
street
divisions
building
that
they're
in
that's
the
old
Parks?
It's
a
pole,
barn,
it's
a
cinder
block,
pole,
barn
and
so
you
know,
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
useful
life
left
in
it.
M
We
need
to
make
investments
in
it
currently
just
to
keep
it
functional
and-
and
you
know
up
to
occupied
standards,
so
you
know
that
building
there
is
a
really
old
and
we
can
we've
got
the
information
on
exactly
when
they
were
built
and
such,
but
so
vacating
is
going
to
need
to
happen
at
some
point.
Whether
or
not
we
you
know
move
forward
with
this
plan,
we'll
have
to
figure
out
something
for
something
like
that
for
the
age
of
a
building
like
that,
the
Fleet
Maintenance
Garage.
We
don't
necessarily.
M
This
would
all
be
part
of
the
master
planning
and
site
planning,
but
we
would
probably
make
investments
into
that
garage
and
then
have
supplemental
space
for
CB
or
for
Fleet
Maintenance
services
in
the
current
CBU
Administrative
Building
in
their
garage
area.
But
we
would.
We
would
imagine
that
we
would
continue
to
operate
some
of
the
Fleet
Services.
M
You
know
the
actual
services
in
that
garage,
whereas
the
administrative
function
may
move
to
the
centralized
administrative
facility
outside
of
that,
the
sanitation
garage
on
the
south
side
of
the
city
at
Walnut,
Street
and
just
north
of
Roar
or
Gordon
Pike.
It's
it's
again,
a
large
pole,
barn
it
just
it
stores
the
trucks.
It's
got.
Two
small
offices
and
a
bathroom
I
think
it
was
built
in
the
early
80s
as
well.
So
you
know
that
would
be
a
site
that
that
would
probably
become
available
for
other
uses,
but
between
Street
and
Fleet.
M
M
We
would
hope
to
relocate
that
we'd
always
have
a
presence
here
in
City,
Hall
being
that
it's
our
large
one
of
our
largest
publicly
accessible
facilities
through
our
facilities,
division,
but
yeah
it'd,
basically
be
the
sanitation
garage
and
the
Fleet
Services
building
and
how
we
would
re-utilize
those
I
don't
foresee
that
the
street
building
would
be
anything
but
demolished.
G
Okay,
any
of
those
properties
that
you
have
what's
the
largest
one,
do
you
have
any
that
are.
M
K
The
estimated
cost
is
around
38
million
dollars
that
includes
Demolition
and
and
cleanup
of
the
current
site
and
just
restoring
it
to
a
pre-construction
state,
because
there's
a
lot
of
old
stuff
sitting
around
over
there,
a
large
trickling
filter,
Basin.
That
has
to
be
refilled
and
a
lot
of
other
things.
But
we're
planning
to
con
proceed
with
that
work
this
year,
regardless
of
whether
whether
we
build
a
new
facility
in
the
near
future
or
not
simply
because
it
needs
to
be
done,
that
site
can
just
another
place.
K
Well,
certainly,
we'll
be
we'll
be
trying
to
see
if
there's
Grant
monies
available,
we
anticipate
that
there
will
be
a
there
will
be
a
cost
Trent
of
involved
in
the
transfer
of
the
current
CPU
facilities
that
Miller
Drive
to
to
public
works.
So
there
will
certainly
be
a
transfer
there
that
will
offset
part
of
the
cost
to
the
to
the
utility
rate
payers
and
we'll
seek
low-income
financing
or
low
low
interest
rate
financing
and
grants
opportunities,
as
we
can
find
them.
K
D
Me
ask
one
more
in
the
Miller
Drive
facility
is
that
to
be
you're
going
to
abandon
that
or
you're?
This
is
an
expansion,
no.
D
I
Yes,
I
think
this
question
is
for
Mr,
wayson
I
believe
what
resources
do
you
or
the
administration
foresee
to
pay
for
the
move
of
Public
Works
to
Miller
Drive?
Well,.
M
As
Vic
just
said,
there
would
obviously
have
to
be
an
agreement
in
the
the
transfer
of
the
property
to
be
a
public
works
facility,
initially
costs
that
we
would
look
to
incur
some
of
the
master
planning
of
the
site.
But
really
you
know
outside
of
additional
storage
facilities
for
the
equipment.
That's
currently
Outdoors.
We
would
look
to
utilize.
M
What's
there
in
terms
of
cbu's
service
center,
their
garages,
some
of
the
awnings
part
of
that
obviously
gets
determined
in
a
master
planning
process,
for
us
is
on
that
site,
but
the
utility
Service
Center,
building
right
now,
they're
parking
lots
they're
that
that
would
be
an
upgrade
beyond
belief.
For
someone
like
me
right
now
in
terms
of
being
able
to
take
over
a
facility
like
that,
it's
for
those
that
haven't
been
in
there.
You
know
it's
a
modern
office
facility.
M
I
But
it
will
cost
money
to
move
there.
Yes,
yes,
so
is
that
something
that
is
just
projected
to
be
put
in
the
public
works
budget
in
coming
years,
or
is
there
any
bonding
or
other
Revenue
sources
to
some.
M
Of
that
determined
long
term
through
the
master
planning
of
the
site,
what
they
would
actually
suggest
for
you
know
what
happens
to
the
street
department
building.
Do
we
not
you
know
Street
division
building?
Is
that
demolished
and
not
reused?
Like
I
said
I?
Imagine
we
would
fully
re
continue
to
use
the
Fleet
Maintenance
Garage
for
a
lot
of
the
activities
that
occur
there,
but
we're
hoping
to
keep
those
costs
to
a
minimal
other
than
you
know,
the
storage
facilities
for
equipment
and
then
re-utilize
what's
on
site.
M
But,
yes,
it
would
obviously
be
coming
before
the
council,
whether,
if
it
required
Bond
funding
or
budget
approval
through
the
process
and
again
you
know,
as
I've
mentioned
right
now,
is
a
key
time
to
be
monitoring
what
grants
and
federal
what
other
dollars
are
out
there.
We
just
had
a
great
conversation
with
several
staff
and
outside
an
outside
firm
today
on
how
we
can
better
position
ourselves
for
larger
grant
funding
opportunities,
and
this
is
certainly
one
of
those
that's
on
the
radar
for
that
as
well.
I
M
Would
be
yeah
there
would
there
would
be
yes
that
would
have
to
be
negotiated
amongst
the
utility
Service
Board,
the
you
know,
and
the
two
Administration,
the
city
Administration,
the
utility
Service
Board,
who
owned
the
land?
Originally,
what
you
know
there's
a
lot
to
be
determined
there
every
few
years
we're
entering
into
in
our
local
agreements
with
CBU
for
different
things.
Whether
services
and
I
could
see
this
being
part
of
that
conversation
as
well.
K
Office
is
presently
in
the
process
of
having
the
the
current
CBU
facilities
at
Miller
Drive
appraised
as
a
starting
place
for
those
discussions,
but
it
could
take
any
number
of
forms
that
could
be
a
lump
payment.
It
could
be
a
leasing
Arrangement.
It
could
be
any
number
of
things
we
just
we're
not
far
enough
along
to
know
that
yet.
A
Thank
you.
I
would
note
that
we
are
at
our
our
20
minutes
for
the
report
section
we
haven't
even
gotten
to
the
second
report
yet
so,
with
the
council's
permission,
may
we
extend
this
time
since
reports
are
the
focus
of
what
we're
doing
this
evening?
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
go
to
council
member
Roland.
H
First
question
is
kind
of
facetious,
but
is
the
new
place
where
you're
moving
to
within
the
city
limits
it
is
all
of?
It
is
all.
H
H
We
would,
though,
yes
right,
there
are
a
couple
of
water
tanks
in
the
current
location.
Are
those
going
to
be
relocated
by
their
CBU
water
tanks?
What
are
they
for,
and
what
are
you
going
to
do
with
them?.
K
Those
are
actually
the
those
are
the
tanks
that
the
original
36
inch
main
from
the
Monroe
plant
empties
into
they
need
to
be
located
where
they
are
because
they're
up
on
top
of
a
hill,
oh
they're,
they're,
ground
storage
tanks.
So
in
order
to
maintain
pressure
in
our
distribution
system,
they
need
to
stay
there.
E
B
H
All
the
cases
both
the
garages,
Public,
Works
and
utilities,
and
finally,
with
respect
to
the
transfer
of
ownership,
so
in
other
words
right
now,
this
current
CPU
property
is
owned
by
this
sort
of
separate
entity
by
rate
payers.
H
To
the
taxpayers,
who
would
own
it
when
it
becomes
all
public
works?
That's
true!
Yes,
so
is
there
does
I
guess
I,
don't
know
how
to
ask
the
question
like?
Is
there
any
reason
why
you
don't
just
sell
it
for
a
dollar
to,
since
it's
all
the
city
or
because
there's
that
some,
that
difference
is
significant,
I.
K
K
I
knew
he'd
like
the
idea,
that's
going
to
be
up
to
the
utility
service
board
and
the
administration
and
the
and
the
councils.
K
That's
right:
the
the
service
center
was
built
with
rate
payer
dollars
who,
from
people
who
are
paying
their
water
bills,
it
was
not
paid
for
with
tax
money.
It
wasn't
paid
with
property
taxes
or
income
taxes.
It
was
paid
entirely
by
ratepayer
dollars.
So.
H
I
have
one
more
question
about
that,
but
I
think
Mr
wayson
did
something.
Okay,
so
I
didn't
quite
get
what
you
feel
needs
to
be
built
administratively
at
Winston
Thomas.
Do
you
need
to
build
office
facilities
there
and,
if
so,
how
much?
How
much?
How
much
square
footage
approximately.
K
The
office
facilities
will
be
somewhat
larger
than
the
present
office
facilities.
It
won't
be
a
huge
increase,
but
they
will
be
somewhat
larger.
The
laboratory
will
be
something
we
don't
currently
have
at
the
service
center.
It
would
be
much
better
to
have
it
there.
We
are
bursting
at
the
seams
at
all
three
plants
in
their
Laboratories,
so
to
to
the
extent
that
we
can
centralize
some
of
those
activities.
H
K
K
There's
plenty
of
space
there
to
to
extend
it
either
upward
or
outward
it's.
K
No
we're
we're
we're
bursting
at
the
seams
now,
but
clearly,
as
the
city
grows,
and
it
will
continue
to
grow,
we
will
need
annexation
or
otherwise
we're
going
to
continue
to
to
to
need
to
serve
more
customers,
and
so
we
we
do
need
to
plan
for
that
future.
Right
now,
we
are
very
limited
in
our
current
facility.
We
really
don't
have
a
good
storage
space.
We
have,
for
example,
we
have
all
of
our
paper
records
that
have
to
be
maintained,
they're
in
the
building
at
423,
South,
Washington
Street.
K
That
location
could
be
used
for
a
lot
of
much
more
preferable
activities
than
simply
a
warehouse
full
of
papers
at
this
point
in
time.
So
so
we
we
need
more
storage
for
for
equipment
other
than
the
trucks
than
the
other
vehicles,
but
also
we
can
make
better
use
of
some
of
the
space
that
we
have
in
other
locations,
so
the
423,
South,
Washington
location
could
be
used
for
any
number
of
things.
It's
right
for
for
those
who
don't
know
where
that
is
it's
near.
It's
right!
Next
to
two
steaks
Bakery.
D
Okay,
well,
so
you
got
a
lot
of
paper
to
store.
We
just
purchased
the
entire
back
half
of
the
showers
and
I'm
wondering
at
a
great
expense
and
I'm
I'm
wondering
about
whether
we
can
simply
make
do
with
the
existing
space
that
the
city
has
acquired.
What
would
you
what
would
you
say
in
response
to
that
either
of
you
or
both.
K
K
K
The
the
fact
is
that
the
majority
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
to
park
somewhere
are
going
to
be
things
like
great
big
trucks,
piles
of
pipe
valves
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
we're
going
to
need
to
that
that
all
of
that
stuff
needs
a
home
and
right
now
its
home
is
sitting
out
in
the
weather,
which
is
just
not
it's
just
not
sustainable.
To
operate.
That
way,
so
you
know
moving
a
few
of
our
offices.
Up
here
would
be
really
impractical
and
just
and
disruptive
of
our
operations.
M
You
know,
as
as
I
mentioned
you
know,
part
of
this,
for
us
is
about
centralized
operations.
We
are
unlike
most
of
our
peer
communities
in
terms
of
being
spread
out
to
multiple
locations
having
having
staff
at
several
different
facilities.
You
know
the
as
far
as
the
purchase
of
the
Western
portion
of
showers.
Here
you
know
obviously
there's
a
a
very
large
Public
Safety
focus
with
that
you
know,
would
we
be
able
to
centralize
our
Public
Works
operations
with
the
other
plans
in
place
for
that?
M
No,
that
that
wouldn't
be
practical
for
us
and
given
the
other
plans
for
that
building,
you
know
this
for
us.
Is
you
know
we
in
our
conversations?
You
know
it's,
it's
a
realization
of
the
needs
this.
This
comes
together,
as
you
know,
a
good
opportunity
for
both
departments
and
that's
where
our
discussions
have
always
come
from.
You
know.
A
lot
of
what
we've
tried
to
do
in
public
works
is
modernize
and
I.
Think
if
you
would
visit
some
of
our
facilities,
you'd
recognize
or
anything
but
modern,
and
so
this
would.
M
Me
tonight
and
I
will
I
will
start
with
the
statement.
I
was
going
to
end
with,
based
on
some
previous
conversations,
but
I'm
here
tonight
to
talk
about
our
pilot
project
that
we
implemented
beginning
early
last
October
on
a
pilot
area
of
the
downtown
to
document
and
collect
data
on
scooter
parking
violations
in
an
area
that
was
from
3rd
Street
to
10th
Street
Morton
to
Indiana.
M
What
I
was
mentioning
that
I
would
start
with.
Is
that
this
presentation
isn't
going
to
touch
on
all
the
other
topics
that
are
scooters
in
Bloomington
right
now.
Just
to
let
you
folks
know
there
is
a
large
internal
team
working
with
many
Community
Partners,
including
Indiana
and
University,
and
the
scooter
companies
on
some
proposed
changes
that
I
believe
are
coming
forward
will
be
coming
forward
to
this
this
body
in
three
weeks
or
so
so.
M
The
economic,
sustainable
development
department,
Public,
Works,
planning
and
transportation
engineering
legal
mayor's
office
has
all
been
have
all
been
working
together
in
conversation
and
coordination
to
determine
what
next
steps
we
want
to
propose.
As
far
as
renewing
the
agreements
with
the
scooter
companies,
all
of
the
fruit,
all
the
fruits
of
that
labor
will
come
to
this
body.
Like
I
said
in
about
three
weeks,
and
so
this
is
just
a
quick
report
to
let
you
know
what
we
documented
since
last
October.
M
What
we
committed
to
was
just
getting
some
folks
on
on
the
streets,
walking
that
that
large
downtown
area
to
document
collect
data
and
correct
parking
violations
of
the
scooters.
So
since
that
time,
since
early
October,
we
funded
several
positions:
first
through
a
temporary
staffing
agency
for
October
through
December
and
then
with
some
actual
temporary
part-time
City
staff.
M
We
funded
that
with
the
revenues
that
had
been
coming
in
through
the
scooter
companies
at
first,
we
had
two
to
three
of
the
temporary
employees
through
the
temp
agency,
doing
this
work
and
then
in
December
we
hired
two
staff
members
as
temporary
part-time,
currently
we're
down
to
one
and
trying
to
hire
additional
staff
here
for
the
spring.
Overall,
the
average
was
about
25
hours
per
week
of
data
collection
and
correct
of
actions.
M
What
we
found
was
that
there
were,
we
documented
605
total
violations
in
that
time
period.
So
this
was
you
see
a
breakdown
by
company
there
on
the
left.
These
were
violations
that
included
the
the
vast
majority
of
the
violations
we
encountered
and
corrected
were
block
sidewalks
or
Ada
ramps.
So
exactly
what
we
don't
want
to
be
occurring,
so
we
found
479
instances
where
we
moved
scooters
off
of
a
sidewalk
that
was
blocked
or
an
ADA
ramp.
M
The
second
category
out
of
landscape
beds,
our
landscape
areas,
I
think
we
could
probably
attribute
to
late
night
activities
and
some
revelry,
mostly
in
those
instances
where
we
would
find
the
scooters
in
landscape
areas,
22
regular
parking
space
or
22,
not
22
parking
spaces,
12
just
blocking
rights,
away,
three
blocking
alleys
block
driveways
and
then
three
instances
where
they
were
actually
parked
in
Ada
parking
spaces.
M
So
that's
the
breakdown
of
the
types
of
violations
we
were
encountering
and
correcting
as
part
of
this
effort,
and
not
surprising
when
you
look
at
it
where
we
were
finding
the
most
of
the
violations,
Kirkwood
was
number
one,
but
overall,
these
four
kind
of
corridors
made
up
about
53
percent
of
the
total
violations
when
they
make
up
only
about
25
percent
of
the
actual
square
footage
or
blocks
in
the
area
that
we
were
enforcing.
M
So
a
few
of
the
themes
that
I
can
talk
about
with
the
locations
and
the
types
of
violations,
especially
with
the
violation
types.
These
were
not
the
companies
that
were
deploying
their
fleets,
leaving
these
scooters
and
these
conditions.
M
So
again,
you
know
this
is
just
information
on
the
pilot
project
of
what
we
were.
What
we
committed
to
collecting
data
on
what
we
committed
to
correcting
in
the
short
period
of
time,
again
we're
working
with
a
lot
of
Community
Partners
on
some
updates.
That
will
come
to
you
folks
here
in
the
next
several
weeks
and
appreciate
your
time.
A
M
S,
if
our,
if
the
staff
member
encountered
a
scooter
blocking
a
sidewalk,
they
would
take
a
picture,
get
the
serial
number
document
it
in
the
t2
parking
system
that
we
use
and
then
move
the
scooter
to
an
area,
that's
no
longer
blocking
a
sidewalk
or
making
something
inaccessible.
So
sometimes
that's
a
few
feet.
Sometimes
it's
you
know
several.
You
know
15
20
feet
to
get
it
into
an
area,
that's
leaving
a
sidewalker
ramp
accessible.
So.
G
M
M
G
Tends
to
have
consequences
in
my
mind
and
maybe
I'm
wrong
here
and
this
I'm
not
arguing
with
you,
but
this
is
kind
of
a
problem
and
479
instances
on
sidewalk
and
Ada
ramps.
Is
there
a
goal?
Is
there
such
a
thing?
What
is
the
number
that
is,
that
the
scooter
companies
or
we
as
Administration
think
would
be
acceptable.
M
You
know
I
wouldn't
put
a
number
to
any
of
this
council
member
Sims.
What
I
would
say
is
that
ideally
zero,
but
what
we
committed
to
in
the
fall
was
to
collect
this
data
and
try
to
figure
out
what's
happening,
where
it's
happening,
how
it's
happening
and
to
take
action
to
correct.
What's
going
on
so
I
mean
we
could
whether
or
not
corrective
action
is
the
right
word.
M
What
we
wanted
to
do
was
get
the
sidewalks
accessible
again
and,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
know
we
used
the
fees
that
we'd
been
collecting
as
part
of
the
scooter
program
over
the
years
to
pay
these
employees.
G
D
Yeah
I'll
take
a
crack
at
this.
A
couple
of
questions.
One
is
the
revenue,
the
fees
that
crew
from
the
companies
are.
They
are
these
employees
that
have
been
employed
to
to
Monitor
and
to
correct
these
violations?
Have
they
been?
Is
this
compensation?
Is
it
adequate
compensation?
Does
it
pay
for
their.
D
Questions
so
so
that
we,
my
understanding,
is
that
we
get
ten
thousand
dollars
a
year
or
something
from
the
scooter
companies
plus
15,
15
cents
per
run
per
ride,
or
whatever
are
we
having
to
expend
taxpayer
money
in
order
to
essentially
do
whatever
monitoring
or
enforcement
that
is
has
been
occurring.
M
D
And
my
last
question
is,
for
the
moment
is
so
they're
operating
under
an
expired
contract?
Why?
Why
are
we
allowing
them
to
operate
under
an
expired
contract.
M
M
J
Me
talking
to
IU
Personnel,
some
of
the
recommendations
they've
made
regarding
scooters,
since,
particularly
since
their
concern
over
the
the
scooter
death
that
occurred
on
the
IU
campus
is
to
restrict
even
more
further
than
we
have
the
operating
hours
for
maybe
Dusk
to
Dawn.
Is
that
something
that's
going
to
be
coming
forward
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
tightening
up
the
the
number
of
hours
in
which
these
scooters
will
be
legally
allowed
to
operate?.
J
And,
of
course,
IU
has
been
impounding
some
of
the
scooters
that
they
find
in
violation
of
their
you
know,
impeding
their
student
population
and
their
their
ADA
compliance.
So
if
we
were
to
Institute
impounding
of
these
scooters
that
are
in
violation,
where
would
that
be?
What
possible
location?
Could
we
impound
them
and
and
then
extract
more
from
the
scooter
companies
for
the
violations
that,
frankly,
I
think
are
their
responsibility
and
not
ours?.
M
M
You
know
I
I'm,
not
here,
really
to
speak
about
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
here
in
the
future.
What
I
can
say
is:
there's
been
a
large
group
of
both
City
staff
and
IU
staff
and
Community
the
scooter
companies
all
having
discussions
on
what
the
future
of
scooters
in
Bloomington
looks
like
thank.
H
M
M
They
so
so
I
think
the
according
to
Hank
this
morning
and
I
I
I
I
I
can't
give
exact
numbers
here,
but
we
think
his
understanding
was
that
lime
had
the
largest
deployment,
which
is
interesting
based.
H
M
Yes,
okay
bird
was
the
second
highest
number
deployment
and
then
Veo
was
the
third
in
terms
of
total
numbers.
That
Hank
was
looking
at
this
morning,
so
realize
that's
very
relevant
and
we're
working
to
provide
a
lot
more
information
in
that
regard.
As
we
move
forward,
you
know
if,
if
Lyme
had
the
largest
deployment
and
the
fewest
number
of
violations,
what's
the
standard,
we
want
them
all
delivered
exactly.
You
know
exactly
right.
M
So
what
what's
the
what's
the
Nuance
there
that
Lyme
is
doing
to
message
to
their
user
to
make
sure
that
the
violations
aren't
occurring
I.
H
H
Because
you
know
lime,
scooters
may
be
used
less
often
because
they
have
so
many
there.
We
don't
really
know
how
many
they're
they're
being
used
and
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
the
the
more
relevant
statistic,
but
I
mean
judging
from
what
you've
just
said
alone.
Right
now,
whatever
bird
and
vo
are
doing,
are
probably
the
problem
yeah,
although
I
don't
want
to
assume
that
Lyme
isn't
a
problem,
but
either
we
don't
really.
Do
you
have
any
statistics
prior
to
like
what
period
of
time
does
this
represent.
H
And
a
half
okay:
do
you
have
any
prior
data.
M
No
that
this
was
the
pilot
program.
This
was
our
effort
to
try
to
start
collecting
that
data.
Prior
to
that,
you
know
our
our
mode,
our
our
we,
we
asked
parking
enforcement
staff
to
move
it.
We
asked
City
staff
on
the
streets
if
they
saw
something
that
was
you
know,
so
no,
we
didn't
have
the
hard
data.
That's
why
we
really
wanted
to
do
what
we
did
with
this
to
understand.
What
are
we
seeing
in
this
area?
How
can
we
then
look
to
make
changes
to
how
we
enter
into
agreements
with
the
companies?
M
H
Well,
the
other
question
I
would
ask
then
is
because
this
is
a
pilot
project.
It's
important
to
note
how
much
effort
we
put
into
the
enforcement.
So
would
you
say
that
this
was
the
best
they
could
do,
but
there
were
a
lot
more
violations,
or
would
you
say
that
they
got
most
of
the
violations.
M
Based
on
the
number
of
hours
worked
the
fact
that
there
are
temporary
employees
that
some
that
had
higher
rates
of
turnover
than
we
would
expect
you
know
for
the
first
couple
months
it
was
through
a
temp
agency,
so
it
wasn't
always
a
consistent
set
of
employ.
You
know.
So
no
this
there
were
more
violations
in
this
geographic
area
throughout
this
time
period
that
we
did
not
correct
or
find
or
based
on
the
number
of
hours
worked
and
the
staff
that
was
out
there.
M
Given
the
number
of
hours
they
worked
and
such
I
think
they
were
doing
a
noble
effort.
It
was
all
by
foot.
It
was
all
you
know,
so
we
know
what
needs
to
get
better.
We
know
we
need
to
bring
something
forward
to
the
council,
I
I,
hope,
I.
You
know
my
I
want
to
just
make
a
statement
here
that
any
of
my
answers
here
tonight
aren't
to
be
dismissive.
It's
that
we're
still
working
on
a
final
product.
M
That's
going
to
come
to
the
council,
so
you
know:
could
there
could
it
have
been
double
the
number
of
violations
that
we
didn't
find?
Quite
possibly.
H
H
In
other
words,
this
is
the
kind
of
data
that
we
would
include
in
our
annual
reports,
and
you
know
like
it's
vehicle
parking,
it's
just
not
in
the
I
mean
that
was
my
last
question
actually
was:
what
is
the
rule
again
that
we
have
about
scooters
not
being
allowed
to
park
in
car
parking
spots
on
the
street?
Is
that
really
the
case
yeah.
M
A
council
member
I'd
have
to
go
review.
The
the
ordinance
again
but
I
believe
the
language
is
something
to
the
extent
of
in
bike
parking
space.
It
I
think
it
precludes
parking
and
traditionally
Automotive
space
automobile
spaces,
but
then
that
bike
racks
are
available
and
other
you
know
other
non-on-street
parking
spaces,
but
I.
We
can
follow
up
on
that
in
our
because.
H
The
like
I
just
feel
like
the
a
scooter
which
is
a
motorized
vehicle
parking
in
a
space
reserve
for
motorized
vehicles.
It's
you
know,
I'm,
not
sure
that
should
be
quite
as
strenuously
punished
as
scooter
parking.
What.
H
E
F
You
I
think
I
probably
asked
this
before
Mr
wayson,
but
so
each
year
it
if
they're,
if
we're
having
a
program
to
Monitor
and
help
the
violations,
do
you
have
an
estimate
on
like
how
much
would
that
cost
us.
M
If
it
all
depends,
if
we
were
hiring
two
full-times
or
four-fold,
we
can
we
think
it's
great
well.
I
can
tell
you
when
we,
when
we
initially
had
these
conversations
three
years
ago
with
the
company
out
of
California
that
does
this
for
cities.
They
were
talking
150
plus
thousand
a
year
at
that
time.
M
I
can't
imagine,
that's
not
but
doubled
at
this
point
in
time
in
terms
of
overall
costs
and
all
the
factors
I
think
the
biggest
thing
for
us
is
to
figure
out
the
most
strategic
way
to
handle
these
things
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
figure
out
you
know:
does
it
involve
impoundment?
Does
it
involve
fines?
You
know
all
those
things
are
certainly
on
the
table
and
I
think
this
is
just
all
you
know.
There's
been
growing
pains
here.
This
is
an
emerging
technology,
market
and
I.
M
F
Oh
yeah
and
I
appreciate
you
doing
the
pilot
I
think
that
it
helps
out
incredibly
to
collect
this
data
so
where
I
was
going
was
if,
if
we
guessed
that
doing
the
program
would
be
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
just
to
you,
know
spitball
and
then
would
the
future
mean
that
we
would
ask
for
licensure
cost
that
would
equal
our
outcome,
how
much
it
cost
us
to
do
and
then
so
we
would
be
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
a
number,
including
you
know,
violations
and
licensure.
That
would
equal.
That
do.
M
Certainly
think
we
I
think
it
would
be.
How
would
I
answer
this
without
I?
Don't
think
we
would
want
to
enter
into
any
activities
that
it
was
general
fund
money
or
you
know,
if
we're
charging
these
companies
to
be
able
to
operate
here.
We
want
those
revenues
to
the
city
to
cover
the
costs
that
we're
experiencing
would
be
my
take
and
I
would
assume
that's
the
take
of
the
entire
Administration
as
well.
A
Thank
you
for
this
presentation.
Mr
wayson
in
the
current
contract,
which
I
understand
is
now
we
are
out
of
contract.
Who
has
the
right
to
terminate
the
contract
and
under
what
circumstances.
M
A
M
I,
don't
I,
don't
recall
if
the
termination
occurs
at
the
council
level
or
the
Board
of
Public
Works
level
and
I
can
find
that
out
and.
A
With
the
understanding
that
you,
you
don't
have
anything
definite
to
present
to
council,
that'll
come
in
three
weeks
with
the
understanding
that
you
don't
have
anything
definite
for
us
tonight.
I
would
ask
you've
talked
about
some
variables,
whether
or
not
to
impound,
whether
or
not
to
find
performance
expectation.
What
else
is
on
that
list?
What
else
is
being
explored
by
the
scooter
group
at
IU?
The
scooter
group
here
at
the
city
that
you've
been
participating
in.
M
I
again,
don't
want
to
sound
dismissive,
but
that's
what's
to
come
they're
talking
about
things
like
hours
of
operations
where
they
should
be
parked,
how
they
should
be,
how
the
fines
should
be
handled.
It's
a
large
group
of
City
staff
with
a
lot
of
folks
with
having
input
on
it.
Not
just
public
works
so
again
not
to
be
dismissive,
but
that's
what's
to
come.
H
Maybe
the
point
of
counselors
Camp
Valerian
other
people's
questions
is:
have
there
been
any
council
members
involved
in
those
discussions.
H
N
H
Mean
is
that,
should
we
be
worried
about
that,
the
the
contract
itself
will
continue
until
one
party
leaves
it
right.
A
A
N
Ahead
for
folks
on
Zoom,
who
would
like
to
make
a
comment:
you'll
need
to
raise
your
hand
using
the
raise
hand
button
you
can
find
that
in
the
reactions
tab
or
if
you're
on
a
mobile
device,
you
can
find
it
on
the
more
tab.
If
you're
having
issues,
please
send
a
message
to
the
meeting
host.
Currently
we
have
one
hand
raised.
A
Thank
you.
Let's
start
here
in
Chambers,
if
you
would
please
sign
in
I,
always
forget
to
remind
people
to
do
that
state,
your
name
for
the
record,
and
then
you
will
have
five
minutes.
O
Good
evening,
council
members,
Paul
Post
president
fop
Lodge
88.
I'm
here
tonight,
to
give
you
a
brief,
update,
I
found
the
purchase
of
the
showers
West
building
for
the
new
police
and
fire
headquarters
project.
There
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
transparency,
collaboration
in
that
discussion,
so
it's
we
think
it's
only
fair
that
we
try
to
keep
you
up
to
speed
getting
off
to
a
hasty
start.
The
city
started
by
seeking
requests
for
qualifications
from
various
firms
who
may
be
interested
in
taking
on
this
project.
O
O
However,
once
we
were
told
about
that
change,
the
invitation
was
then
withdrawn
on
the
same
day
and
the
original
meeting
went
forward
at
the
direction
of
the
mayor
without
us
this
week.
The
city
has
continued
with
that
theme
holding
at
least
three
other
meetings
interviewing
prospective
firms,
and
once
again
our
team
has
not
been
included
or
advised.
O
Obviously,
with
such
a
major
change.
Our
members
are
interested
in
this
process.
We'd
like
to
be
kept
in
the
loop.
We
understand
the
lengthy
from
the
lengthy
deliberations
that
we
would
be
able
to
participate
and
that
our
input
would
be
valued
but
we're
not
getting
off
to
a
great
start
when
the
purchase
was
being
finalized.
It
seemed
the
mayor
understood
that
point,
but
once
again,
as
soon
as
the
process
actually
starts,
transparency
and
collaboration
have
disappeared.
O
What
we're
hearing
now
is
that
the
mayor
wants
the
project
fast-tracked
and
well
underway
before
he
leaves
office.
We
would
counter
that
haste
with
the
hope
that
this
planning
process,
as
well
as
the
subsequent
stages,
will
get
the
full
attention
they
deserve
and
not
be
rushed,
as
is
a
major
location
change
affecting
numerous
employees
from
several
departments,
as
well
as
the
neighboring
citizens.
O
Somehow,
though,
I
doubt
that
it
is
I'd
bet
that
you
like
us
were
not
told
about
the
meetings
that
have
been
going
on.
Please
keep
focused
in
your
interest
in
the
project
for
which
your
group
approved
the
funding.
Ask
the
administration
to
let
you
observe
or
join
in
ask
them
for
direct
updates
on
the
progress
of
the
project,
remind
them
of
their
alleged
commitment
to
their
keep
our
membership
involved
as
well.
O
P
Thank
you.
This
is
my
daily
walk
down
Second
Street
for
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
The
photograph
on
the
left
is
the
more
typical
scene.
Those
scooters
are
leaving
about
30
under
36
inches.
So
there
are
clear
violations
of
the
ordinance
that
calls
for
54
inches.
They
violate
other
City
requirements,
they're
also
clear
violations
of
ADA
standards.
P
The
photograph
on
the
right
occurs
less
frequently,
but
you
know
that's
that's
what
Bloomington
has
been
like
for
four
years
and
the
conversations
continue.
P
Mr
wayson
mentioned
that
they
found
during
their
study.
605
violations
in
the
fall.
I
showed
the
council
photographs
of
30
scooters
in
violation
that
I
took
in
a
one-hour,
walk
from
Elm
Heights
to
downtown
and
back
home
again,
if
I
could
find
30
violations
while
on
foot
in
one
hour.
How
is
it
that
in
what
was
it
a
couple
months,
they
found
600?
P
The
numbers
are
just
not
consistent
that
I,
it's
you
know
you
can
ask
Mr
wayson.
Does
he
count?
Were
they
counting
the
ones
on
the
Left
To?
Those
cons
are
those
considered
by
them
reasonably
parked
when
they
find
scooters
such
as
the
ones
Illustrated
on
the
right.
What
do
they
do
with
them?
There
is
no
place
on
the
sidewalk
in
the
neighborhood,
that's
wide
enough
to
accommodate
scooters
and
maintain
the
ADA
requirements
in
the
city's
own
requirements.
P
A
N
N
On
Tuesday
March
14th,
the
emergency
management
office
encourages
residents,
businesses
and
schools
to
take
this
drill
as
an
opportunity
to
practice
their
action
plan
and
response
to
a
severe
weather
threat
in
the
event
of
severe
weather
on
Tuesday
March
14th,
the
Statewide
drill
will
take
place
on
Wednesday
March
15th
at
10
15
am
that
is
Sam
Duff's
comments.
We
additionally,
have
one
more
hand
raised
Eric,
OST,.
Q
Good
evening
my
name
is
Eric
ghost
and
I
want
to
follow
on
what
Mr
Livingston
said
in
regards
to
e-scooters.
Q
That
data
would
answer
many
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
tonight,
so
I'm
I'm
befuddled
as
to
why
that
information
is
not
available.
I
guess
it
will
be
forthcoming.
I
would
also
say
that
600
some
odd
violations,
I
think
at
the
normal
parking
violation
fee
would
cover
the
expenditure
for
this
pilot
program,
possibly
Maybe,
not
maybe
not
quite
I'm,
not
sure
why
we're
not
finding
the
scooter
companies
for
these
violations.
Q
I
I
have
read
that
the
the
code
forbids
the
city
from
doing
that,
and
I
was
hoping
that
maybe
somebody
on
the
council
would
ask
probably
to
be
answered
that
this
will
be
forthcoming.
But
this
is
a
significant
question:
why
does
the
current
code
not
allow
enforcement
when
that
enforcement
was
promised?
It
was
integral
I
think
to
the
Improvement
of
the
ordinance
and
maybe
I'll
have
more
to
say
later.
I
I
would
also
I
guess.
Ask
our
members
of
the
community
involved
in
this
city
study
group
in
regards
to
scooters.
A
Deputy
attorney
kulak
any
additional
requests
on
Zoom
and
any
here
in
Chambers,
okay,
seeing
none
that'll
conclude
our
first
period
of
public
comment:
let's
move
into
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions
on
this
particular
Point.
We've
spoken
for
the
last
several
months
about
cbci
the
city
of
Bloomington,
Capital
Improvements,
the
new
501c3
created
to
manage
different
projects
related
to
the
city
like
Hopewell
and
so
forth,
and
we
had
deputy
mayor
Mary,
Catherine
Carmichael
with
us
last
week
to
answer
questions
we've
heard
from
the
mayor.
A
We
will
hear
from
him
again
on
March
29th,
but
we
still
have
our
opportunity
to
appoint
a
member
to
that
board.
So
I
would
like
to
recommend
the
appointment
of
Doris
Sims
and
she
is
very
well
known
to
all
of
us.
For
former
director
of
hand
long
time,
City,
employee
I
would
like
to
recommend
her
appointment
to
the
CD.
Cbci.
Excuse
me
board
and
I
would
like
to
invite
Council
to
affirm
that
or
comment.
So,
let's
start
with
council
member
volen.
H
Ms
Sims
is
a
fine
person
to
represent
the
Council
seat,
but
I'm
a
little
curious
about
the
the
text
of
our
memo,
which
says
the
first
meeting
of
the
newly
formed
cbci
was
held
last
Friday,
where
four
directors
were
appointed
by
Jeff
Underwood
as
incorporator
of
the
corporation.
The
board
then
adopted
bylaws
and
selected
officers.
H
The
bylaws
adopted
by
the
board
provide
that
one
director
shall
be
appointed
by
the
council
president.
They
didn't
even
wait
for
us
to
name
somebody
before
they
created
bylaws.
They
selected
officers
without
even
the
courtesy
of
us.
Having
made
our
appointment
I
mean.
Do
we
even
have
a
meaningful
representative
on
the
the
board?
If
the
very
important
initial
step
they
take
to
create
bylaws
and
select
officers
was
done
without
even
waiting
for
our
appointee
to
be
consulted.
H
I
mean
I,
find
this
to
be
disturbing
and
I
question
I
mean
I
was
supportive
of
a
501c3.
I
was
definitely
not
supportive
of
it.
Under
these
conditions
and
I
still
believe
that
we
should
have
at
least
a
second
I
know
that
councilmember
Sims
has
said
the
same
thing
that
we
should
have
at
least
a
second
person,
but
I
mean.
Are
we
really
should
we
really
be
giving
our
the
our
Improvement
tour
to
this
kind
of
activity?
That's
my
question.
It's
a
rhetorical
one!
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
yeah
I,
agree
about
rhetorical
and
and
I
agree
with
councilman
council
member
of
olin's
statements
and
particularly
having
the
one
Council
appointment.
I.
Think
right
from
the
beginning,
I've
always
said
three
and
two
would
be
a
much
better
split,
but
what
I
would
like
to
add
this
evening
is
in
reading
through
the
bylaws
one
of
the
things
that
disturbing
if
I
could
use.
G
That
word
is
that
if
one
of
the
members
on
the
board
were
to
leave
or
that
position
become
vacant-
and
let's
say,
for
example,
is
our
appointee,
then
that
board
replaces
that
person.
It
don't
come
back
to
us
if,
unless,
if
I
understand
this
correctly,
so
we
don't
have
an
opportunity
to
appoint
someone
else
to
replace
our
own
appoint
t,
and
that
seems
a
little
off
to
me
if,
if
I'm
reading
it
correctly,
so
that's
my
comments
on
that.
D
Thank
you,
I
think.
As
I
understand
it,
you
have
the
ability
to
make
this
appointment
as,
as
president
of
the
council
doesn't
necessarily
require
a
vote,
but
I
have
I,
have
questions
concerning
the
cbci
I
agree
with
council
member,
both
council
members,
Sims
and
and
councilmember
volen.
D
The
group
has
already
been
formed
by
the
mayor
is
meeting
I
I
have
the
greatest
respect
for
Miss,
Sims
I,
think
she's
extremely
capable
for
a
role
such
as
this,
but
I
have
still
have
questions
regarding
what
and
what
and
and
the
type
of
projects
funded
by
this
group.
Would
it
diminish
the
role
of
the
council.
D
D
So
I
have
a
lot
of
trepidation
for
making
an
appointment
to
this
cbci
as
it
may
be
interpreted
as
giving
my
consent,
as
as
councilmember
Roland
said,
and
just
just
quote,
Mr
post
rushing
to
get
things
moving
without
the
participation
of
the
stakeholders
seems
to
be
the
the
operational.
The
the
modus
operandi
of
the
administration,
unfortunately,
thank
you.
J
As
Mr
post
pointed
out
in
his
public
comments
this
evening,
I
think
this
entire
process
lacks
the
transparency
and
the
public
debate
that
something
of
this
importance
absolutely
requires
I,
don't
recall,
casting
a
vote
or
having
a
public
discussion
as
to
even
the
merits
of
a
501c3,
which
is
basically
privatization
in
a
non-profit
private
Corporation,
a
board
to
take
over
decision
making
about
City
Assets
Now.
The
city
assets
in
question.
Here
are
two
different
types:
we've
got
Hopewell
we've
got
trades.
J
This
is
about
developing
properties,
for
how
these
two
very
Prime
pieces
of
property
are
going
to
build
out
are
going
to
be
constructed.
The
two
venues
that
I
have
the
most
concern
about
with
the
makeup
of
this
board
and
their
expertise
are
Arts
venues
and
it's
my
understanding
that
the
stakeholders
that
are
currently
managing
at
least
certainly
the
Waldron,
have
not
even
been
involved
in
a
discussion
about
what
this
means
for
them,
who
already
hold
a
contract
to
manage
the
performance
spaces
and
the
gallery
spaces
in
the
Waldron.
J
To
me,
this
is
a
gross
violation
of
the
Public's
trust,
and
so,
as
many
of
my
colleagues
have
indicated,
I
have
the
utmost
confidence
in
Dora
Sims
to
be
able
to
be
a
member
of
any
board,
she's
she's
a
tremendous
resource
and
has
been
and
and
will
continue
to
be,
but
I
I
can't
agree
to
this,
because
I
have
not
had
any
decision
making
about
this
formation,
and
it's
clear
to
me.
This
has
been
in
the
works
for
a
long
time.
They
already
have
their
bylaws
they've
already
had
their
first
meeting.
J
I
I
So
I'm,
and
certainly
we
have
been
notified.
You
know
six
weeks
ago
about
the
formation
of
this
body.
So
if
there
were
serious
concerns
among
my
colleagues,
then
I
don't
understand
why
they
were
not
raised
earlier.
I
That
said,
I
think
Doris
Sims
would
be
an
excellent
appointee
for
this,
given
her
experience
with
hand
and
also
as
a
board
member
of
the
IU
Credit
Union,
so
I
I
would
support
the
appointment.
I,
don't
think
there
needs
to
be
a
vote
necessarily
so
we'll
just
see
what
happens.
I
These
concerns
should
well
be
raised
with
with
the
mayor
and
with
you
know,
maybe
attending
the
next
board.
Meeting
bylaws
can
be
revised.
I
just
checked
the
bylaws
regarding
what
council
member
Sims
said
about
filling
vacancies,
and
it
is
true
that
they
say
a
vacancy
of
an
unexpired
term
due
to
resignation,
or
you
know,
somebody
moving
away
or
something
can
be
filled
by
the
other
four
board
members,
so
I
also
did
not
catch
that,
but
it's
not
as
egregious
as
I,
initially
thought
when
councilmember
Sims
said
it.
I
J
Point
of
information,
I
was
Ill
last
Wednesday
and
not
able
to
attend,
and
not
even
really
feeling
well
enough
to
even
watch
it,
and
even
if
I
had
been
here
to
express
my
concerns.
It
looks
to
me
like
this
is
a
fatal
complete.
This
has
been
decided
long
before
any
of
us
even
had
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
about.
How
is
this
going
to
be
funded?
J
What
does
this
mean
in
terms
of
the
public
transparency
and
how
these
venues
particularly
are
Arts
venues
which
are
the
anchors
for
the
downtown
Arts,
the
Walder
and
the
Buskirk
Chumley
are
going
to
be
managed
and
does
that
take
it
out
of
the
hands
of
any
Council
oversight
or
any
even
City,
Administration
oversight.
So
my
apologies
for
not
being
here
last
week,
but
I,
don't
think
it
would
have
mattered.
H
Well,
I
I
wanted
to
comment
on
my
colleagues
on
the
other
side
of
the
day.
It's
because
they
both
made
very
good
points.
I,
don't
quite
agree
with
councilor
Sandberg
that
this
is
privatization
but
other
than
that
I.
You
know,
I
generally
accept
your
sentiment
in
the
past
before
this
body
existed,
the
mayor
could
unilaterally
make
decisions
such
as
to
convey
the
the
second
fire
station
to
the
Lotus
World
Music
and
Arts
Festival
as
the
as
mayor
kruzan
did
in
2015..
H
So
there
is
a
slight
d
centralizing
of
decision
making
with
the
creation
of
this
body.
Having
said
that,
I
think
it
was
very
reasonable
to
assume
that
there
would
be
let's
call
it
more
collaboration,
but
I
would
frankly
call
it
more
democratic
management
of
these
assets
that
the
idea
behind
the
CBC
I
mean
I
think
that
Council
was
and
has
been
accustomed
to
accepting
a
minority
role
in
most
boards
and
commissions
that
we've
named
one
person
less
than
the
mayor,
but
this
is
more
than
one
person
less.
This
is
two
people
less.
H
This
is
20
of
the
board
instead
of
40
when
they
could
easily
have
given
us.
A
second
seat
and
what
councilmer
Sims
just
noted
about
the
fact
that
they
can
replace
an
unexpired
council
member
Council
appointed
term?
That's
ridiculous!
Why
shouldn't
we
be
able
to
reply?
Why
do
they
need
to
replace
our
appointee?
How
hard
is
that
for
us?
We
go
through
it
all
the
time
I
mean
we.
We
aren't.
H
We
have
slacked
in
the
past
on
appointing
the
occasional
seat
here
and
there,
but
it's
just
absurd
I
find
no
reason
whatsoever
why
we
can't
a
have
two
seats
and
B
that
we
can't
be
the
ones
to
replace
our
own
appointees,
even
Midway
through
a
term.
We
do
it
all
the
time
with
other
boards
of
commissions.
H
What
I
see
instead
is
I
do
believe
that
councilor
Sandberg
is
right
about
it
being
a
faded
complete
that
this
is
the
administration
simply
decides
and
we're
going
to
like
it
or
not,
and
it's
up
to
us
as
a
council
decide
what
actions
we
must.
We
must
take
out
of
our
normal
comfort
zone
to
call
the
administration
onto
the
carpet
and
say
you
can't
keep
doing
this.
H
The
same
is
true
for
Hopewell
Hopewell
was
designed
without
any
input
meaningful
info
from
the
council
they're
planned.
They
claim
that
their
plan
required
no
approval
from
us.
Okay.
Well,
maybe
we
think
it
should
be
approved
by
us,
like
we
approved
every
other
plan
in
town
I'm,
not
sure
about
the
legality
of
it
and
I'd
like
to
look
into
to
have
our
staff
look
into
it,
but
the
bottom
line
is:
if
we
don't
like
that,
we
have
to
ask
what
are
we
willing
to
do
about
it?
H
And
that
means
withholding
a
cent
on
other
crucial
issues
coming
before
us
that
the
administration
needs
to
get
done
until
they
behave
themselves.
So
you
know,
I
did
not
bargain.
For
this
kind
of
501c3
I
spoke
praisingly
of
it.
I
thought
it
was
a
good
idea.
I
do
think
it's
better
than
having
the
mayor
making
unilateral
decisions
on
buildings
like
that,
but
it's
only
incrementally
better.
H
It's
not
it's
in
no
way
a
collaboration
with
the
legislative
body
and
I'm
over
it,
so
I
mean
my
belief
here
at
you
know,
notwithstanding
the
praise
our
our
potential
nominee
has
is
to
not
Ascent
by
naming
somebody
until
we
get
better
answers
until
we
negotiate
a
a
better
administrative
Arrangement,
because
I
find
this
unacceptable.
That's
my
thought.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
just
a
little
bit
of
homework
and
thank
you.
It's
a
little
bit
of
homework
and
I
understand
that
there
is
no
vote
required,
but
I
want
to
go
on
record
and
I.
Think
many
of
us
have
said
this
that
I
do
support
my
president's
appointment
of
Doris
him
to
this
board
and
we'll
discuss
later
on.
Our
fillings
on
the
cbci
did
I
get
that
right.
G
There
are
some
things
that
concern
me
that
I've
mentioned,
but
like
council,
member
volen
and
I
have
not
changed
that
I
supported
it
when
we
first
talked
about
it
and
I
still
do
just
maybe
not
as
certainly
and
strongly
as
I
did
at
the
beginning.
So
I
wanted
to
see
this
move
forward
and
I
just
want
to
make
those
comments.
As
part
of
the
record.
Thank
you.
Thank.
F
B
B
Don't
feel
any
necessarily
withhold
appointment
at
this
time
over
that
over
those
concerns,
but
I
think
there
are
a
variety
of
ways
in
which
the
council
could
work
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months
to
ensure
a
more
collaborative
process,
more
transparent
process
that
we
are
comfortable
with
with
respect
to
how
the
cpci
operates
and
I'm
happy
to
engage
with
my
colleagues
and
the
administration
on
that.
Thanks.
H
Respect
the
idea
of
making
the
appointment
now,
but
with
all
due
respect
to
the
quality
of
the
appointee.
If
we
leave
it
unappointed
that
keeps
it
on
the
burner
in
a
way
that
it
wouldn't.
If
we
don't
make
the
appointment
now
and
instead
request
a
restructuring
of
the
CBI.
Now
we
can
do
both
we
can
do
either.
I
should
say:
I
I.
Think,
though,
that
by
making
the
appointment
now,
we
simply
accept
the
terms
given
to
us,
and
that
makes
it
harder
to
change.
H
So
you
know
I,
I,
I'm,
not
unsupportive,
of
the
eventual
candidate
I
have
a
problem
with
naming
it
when
we've
all,
when
most
of
us
have
acknowledged
that
the
terms
are
problematic
and
I
would
sort
of
wish
that
we
would
I
mean
if
we
are
going
to
make
the
appointment
tonight.
I
would
like
to
have
a
better
idea.
H
I
mean
I'm,
encouraged
by
councilman
Flaherty's
statement
as
well
that
that
he,
for
one,
is
willing
to
to
look
into
it
more,
but
I
mean
we
have
to
take
proactive
action
to
make
this
better,
because
the
administration
is
clearly
not
going
to.
Thank
you.
I
Yeah,
just
some
information,
so
I
did
attend
the
first
meeting
of
the
cbci
last
Friday.
They
did
not
schedule
a
second
meeting.
They
decided
to
wait
and
consult
with
the
new
member
that
they
thought
was
going
to
be
appointed
soon.
I
The
bylaws
do
have,
of
course,
a
section
on
amending
the
bylaws,
and
it
says
these
bylaws
may
be
altered,
amended
or
repealed,
and
new
bylaws
may
be
adopted
by
a
majority
of
the
directors
present
at
any
regular
meeting,
provided
that
at
least
15
days,
written
notice
is
given
to
the
directors
the
common
Council,
the
mayor
of
the
city
and
the
public,
so
I
I
feel
like
an
amendment
to
the
bylaws,
should
be
made
at
least
for
the
purpose
of
allowing
the
appointing
entity,
in
this
case
the
common
Council
to
fill
any
vacancy
that
should
occur
before
the
fulfillment
of
a
whole
term.
I
So
I
I,
don't
know
I
feel
like
maybe
having
our
appointee
on
the
board
would
allow
her
to
vote
on
a
bylaws
change.
So
in
that
respect
it
would
be
good
also
just
to
note
that
the
appoint
the
appointments
are
staggered.
Some
some
of
the
Mayors
are
one
year
and
some
are
two-year,
but
this
Council
appointment
is
for
a
two-year
term.
G
We
all
have
different
thoughts,
and
the
last
thing
I
will
say
about
this-
is
that
and
I
hope
many
of
you
saw
this
David
Henry,
the
chair
of
the
Monroe
County
Democratic
party,
as
he
want
to
do
during
the
month
of
February,
was
to
make
a
black
history
parts
of
his
weekly
speech
or
the
their
newsletter,
and
if
many
of
you
saw
this,
he
recognized
not
my
wife
and
I
as
an
entity
of
providing
community
service
to
this
city
totaling
over
70
years
now.
G
The
point
I'm
trying
to
make
here
is
that
my
wife
and
I
think
the
qualification
is
not
an
issue,
but
she
has
certain
expertise
in
particular
with
housing
and
Hopewell,
and
these
other
things
she'll
work
well
with
the
other
folks
that
are
on
the
board
already.
Most
importantly,
she
wants
to
do
this
service,
so
anything.
G
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
this
very
good
discussion.
I.
Think
it's
important
I
think
it
is
important
for
administration
to
hear
as
well.
Thank
you,
too,
for
the
for
the
what
I
heard
to
be
the
universal
or
near
Universal
support
for
Ms
Sims
and
her
appointment
in
the
skill
and
expertise
she
would
bring.
It
seems
to
me
at
this
point.
We
have
a
couple
options.
We
have
the
opportunity.
A
Well,
let
me
back
up
a
minute
as
it's
written
in
the
bylaws
for
the
non-profit.
The
appointment
can
either
come
directly
from
the
president
of
council
or
by
resolution
of
counsel.
I
would
like
to
at
least
have
the
affirmation
of
counsel
and
your
support
for
any
nomination
that
I
make
okay.
That
said,
we
can
proceed
with
that.
A
Nomination
now
have
her
represented
in
the
conversations
going
forward
for
whenever
the
next
meeting
is
scheduled
or
since
mayor
Hamilton
is
scheduled
to
be
with
us
on
March
29th,
to
field
questions
and
to
field
discussion,
we
can
postpone
an
appointment
until
after
we
have
had
a
chance
to
speak
with
mayor
Hamilton.
This
Council
have
a
preference.
A
J
G
Is
it
possible
for
us
to
do
a
voice
vote
that
is
in
support
of
your
appointee?
And
again
my
concern
is
if
postponing
and
all
these
other
things
I
stated
earlier
my
feelings
on
this.
Okay:
this
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
appointee.
This
has
everything
to
do
with
some
of
our
whatever
we've
got
with
the
administration
I'm
fine.
With
that
we
don't
need
a
vote,
the
president
can
do
it
so
either
we
affirm
that
appointee
or
we
do
not
to
this
evening.
G
H
That's
interesting,
I'm
still,
processing
what
my
customer
sim
said,
but
I
mean
it's
important
to
note
that
Ms
Sims
doesn't
represent
herself
there
she's
a
council
represented,
she
represents
the
council's
interest,
and
so
you
know
we
simply
one
thing
that
we're
saying
tonight,
independent
of
Ms
Sims,
is
that
the
council
has
a
greater
interest
than
has
been
allotted,
To
Us
by
the
administration,
and
that
we
believe
that
we
should
have
more
say
in
it.
H
I
think
that
the
fact
that
the
cbci
has
not
yet
stated
their
next
meeting
date,
because
they're
awaiting
this
appointment
is
slightly
encouraging.
You
know
I
would
hope
they
would
not
meet.
Until
we
pointed
somebody
if
they're
not
going
to
meet
before
March
29th,
then
maybe
we
don't
have
to
make
the
appointment
right
away
since
they
don't
have
a
new
meeting
set
and
that
we
can
have
that
conversation
with
the
mayor
since
he's
going
to
be
scheduled
to
be
here
on
the
29th
anyway.
H
But
having
said
that,
I'm
not
going
to
object
to
making
the
appointment
tonight
I'm
ambivalent,
about
it.
I
think
people
have
heard
my
concerns,
I
I
frankly,
I
think
the
thing
that
would
help
it
would
be
if
leadership
were
to
say
that
this
is
going
to
be
on
the
agenda
in
the
immediate
near
future,
so
that
we
can
in
fact
talk
about
it
because
I
think
it
is
of
immediate
concern
to
the
majority
of
the
body.
H
Is
not
the
issue
right?
The
the
person
is
not
the
question.
It's
the
it's,
the
body
itself
I
mean
we
have
been
expressing
concerns
about
transparency.
We
heard
a
concern
tonight
about
the
new
police
headquarters
not
being
transparent.
This
was
not
transparent
and
I
brought
up
Hopewell.
That
plan
was
not
done,
I
mean.
If
transparency
includes
the
council,
it
was
not
transparent
because
the
council
is
not
included
in
consultation
for
any
of
these
particular
actions
by
the
administration.
H
I
I
I
I
guess
I
I
would
prefer
to
proceed
with
an
appointment
because
we
have
no
guarantees
as
to
when
the
next
meeting
will
be
I
mean
they
said
they
would
wait
for
the
appointee,
but
maybe
they
won't.
We
don't
know-
and
we
know
that
the
mayor
is
eager
to
activate
this
board
and
I
also
feel
like
our
concerns
about
the
lack
of
transparency
with
the
process
and
the
possible.
I
You
know
makeup
of
the
board
being
only
one
Council
representative
I
think
those
do
not
have
to
do
with
our
appointment.
We
need
to,
as,
as
colleagues
have
said,
we
need
to
be
proactive,
I
mean
we
need
to
contact
the
other
members
of
the
board
and
and
the
mayor's
office
and
maybe
attend
the
meeting
when
it
comes
and
and
let
our
our
views
be
known,
but
I
I
would
recommend
going
ahead
with
the
appointment.
Thank
you
thank.
J
H
Doris
customer
samberg's
idea,
because
that
allows
us
to
make
the
appointment
tonight
while
still
saying
we
insist
on
more
seats,
I
a
little
concerned
about
whether
seven
members
might
be
slightly
less
wieldy
than
five
but
I.
Think
five
was
an
arbitrary
number
and,
more
importantly
like
this.
This
is
a
request
or
it
could
be
a
demand
of
ours
if
we
want
that
allows
us
to
ensure
that
the
council
at
least
has
the
beginning
of
representation,
even
if
it's
inadequate,
so
I
mean
I
I.
Still,
it's
not.
H
I'm
hopeful
also
that
the
new
board
won't
meet
before
March
29th,
but
perhaps
they
will
I
I
disagree
with
councilman
Piedmont
Smith
in
the
idea
that
somehow
we
should
attend
those
meetings,
maybe
perhaps
at
the
beginning
we
should
attend
one
or
two
to
get
the
feel
of
it.
But
kind
of
the
point
of
this
is
I
mean
I
was
a
little
surprised
that
we
didn't
appoint
one
of
our
own
to
be
the
representative
on
that
body.
H
A
member
of
the
council
but
I
also
know
how
busy
we
all
are
and
independent
of
current
electoral
activities,
we're
generally
very
busy
and
there's
a
reason
we
Point
people
to
be
Representatives.
We
can't
do
everything
ourselves
and
we
shouldn't
be
trying
so
I
include
in
that
even
having
to
attend
meetings
of
the
cbci
just
to
get
our
point
across.
Maybe
we'll
do
it
now,
because
we're
so
insistent
on
more
representation
for
us,
but,
ultimately,
you
know
I
think
we
need
to
appoint
citizens
to
represent
the
council's
interests.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
I
continue
to
hear
the
two
issues
with
General
support
for
Ms
Sims
and
the
skills
and
expertise
she
would
bring
and
I
hear
a
lot
of
concerns
that
my
senses
can
only
be
addressed
directly
with
the
mayor
when
he
is
with
us
on
March
24th.
A
A
So
I
would
like
to
suggest
dare
I
that
we
proceed
with
a
vote
in
terms
of
support
for
this
particular
appointment
and
then
take
up
these
other
issues
in
terms
of
the
number
of
board
members,
the
process
for
reappointing
and
all
the
issues
that
we've
summarized
tonight.
We
bring
them
up
with
the
mayor
on
March
29th.
Would
that
be
acceptable?
A
D
C
G
B
A
We
have
no
legislation
for
second
readings
or
resolutions.
We
have
no
legislation
for
first
readings
this
evening.
So
that
brings
us
to
our
second
of
two
periods
of
additional
public
comment.
If
there
is
anyone
in
Chambers,
please
indicate
that
you
that
would
like
to
offer
comment.
Please
indicate
by
raising
your
hand,
Ms
kulak,
could
you
please
extend
our
invitation
on
Zoom?
Yes,.
N
For
folks
who
are
on
Zoom,
who
would
like
to
make
a
comment?
Please
raise
your
hand
using
the
reactions,
tab
or
the
more
tab
if
you're
having
trouble
finding
either
of
those.
You
can
send
a
message
to
the
meeting
host.
A
A
And
if
you
would
please
sign
in
it
is
now
twice
that
I've
remembered
to
remind
people
of
that.
So
I'm
sure
the
clerk
will
be
glad.
So
if
you
would,
when
you're
ready,
please
state
your
name
for
the
record
and
then
you'll
have
five
minutes.
L
All
right,
can
everybody
hear
me?
Okay,
can
you
pull
the
mic
a
little
bit
closer?
Everybody
hear
me:
okay,
better!
Thank
you
all
right,
counselors
command
members
and
members
of
the
assembled.
My
name
is
Abe
Shapiro
I'm,
a
citizen
of
Bloomington
here
and
just
want
to
advise
everybody
that
this
month
is
disability
month
morning
and
also
just
want
to
provide
a
little
Eugene.
L
She
was
really
influential
in
breaking
down
the
barriers
associated
with
disability
in
1970,
the
New
York
Board
of
Education
refused
to
Grant
her
a
teaching
license
on
the
grounds
that
she
was
a
fire
hazard.
Ultimately,
the
kids
were
sold
out
of
court
and
she
became
the
first
wheelchair-bound
teacher
in
the
state
in
1973
she
held
a
demonstration
in
the
streets
of
New
York
City,
particularly
on
Madison
Avenue,
to
ensure
President
Nixon,
signed
Section
504
into
law
and
in
1977,
most
famously
human
LED.
L
Over
150
activists
inside
the
San
Francisco
office
of
the
federal
department
meant
to
craft
section,
504
regulations
and
occupied
the
building
for
25
days,
after
which
the
regulations
were
signed.
So
the
reason
I
say
this
here
tonight
is
because
last
week,
as
the
founder
of
the
neurodiversity
Coalition
at
Indy,
University
I
had
a
chance
to
hold
a
disability
day
of
morning
vigil
and
just
to
kick
off
this
month
of
morning.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
to
the
attention
of
the
council,
bring
that
to
the
attention
of
the
citizens
on
Bloomington.