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A
So
I'd
like
to
resume
our
city
of
bloomington
budget
hearings
for
the
2022
budget
and.
A
A
Had
a
conflict
with
the
class
he's
teaching,
so
this
evening
we
are
going
to
be
discussing
the.
A
C
How
would
you
I'm
trying
to,
without
you
being
able
to
see
my
screen.
A
Somebody
else
have
your
presentation
that
could
perhaps
share
their
screen.
A
E
A
This
evening,
yes,
we
do
so
transit
will
have
25
minutes
and
I
will
start
the
timer
when
the.
A
C
C
And
as
council
member
piedmont
smith
mentioned,
this
will
be
the.
C
C
C
C
C
Opportunities
that
we'll
be
facing
at
police
and
transit,
if
I
could
advance
to
the
next
slide.
C
Presentation,
it
will
be
familiar
to
most
of
you.
I
think
I
to
set
the
context
for
the
2022
budget.
C
2020,
our
last
full
year
that
we
completed
the
trend
has
been
upward
in
transit,
ridership.
C
C
Basically
doubled
everyone's
ridership.
This
would
be
a
pretty
accurate
depiction
for
last
year.
C
Skipped
a
slide
here.
There
we
go
under
the
heading
of
climate
change
in
the
environment,
I'm.
C
C
C
In
the
area
of
customer
service,
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the.
C
Has
been
made
much
worse,
so
we've
had
to
take
a
couple
of
measures,
including
a
implementing
a.
C
C
C
C
I'll
talk
about
shortly
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
as
part
of
this
year's
budget,
we
have
a
line
item.
C
Sessions
so
before
the
end
of
this
year
we
will
place
an
order
for
those
vehicles
and
hopefully.
C
C
C
C
C
Of
more
than
one
form,
we'll
also
look
at
the
potential
of
using
additional
solar
at
our
grimes.
C
C
In
2019,
in
an
effort
to
improve
the
design
of
our
fixed
route
network.
C
C
C
For
various
facility
repairs
and
replacements
at
our
grimes
lane
facility.
C
To
replace
our
building
hvac
automation
system
at
80,
building
security
at
I
believe,
thirty.
C
C
C
Year
we
had
the
unfortunate
thing
to
report
that
the
state
and
ndot
was
going
to
be
cutting.
C
Passenger
fares
are
budgeted
to
remain
the
same
compared
to
the
2021
budget
at
400,
000.
C
C
C
C
Under
10
iu
revenues
at
just
under
nine
percent,
other
local
taxes
at
four
percent
passenger.
C
We're
able
to
hire
drivers
and
and
others
to
fill
vacant
positions
that
we
have
we're
in.
C
C
C
C
Hopefully
we're
going
to
see
that
recovery
begin
in
the
latter
half
of
this
year.
C
Expanding
our
revenue
sources
is,
I
think
we
all
agree
that
we
want
to
grow.
C
And
how
the
pandemic
may
change
travel
patterns
permanently,
possibly.
C
C
C
And
then,
lastly,
the
mayor
mentioned
just
before
the
pandemic
began
the
prospect
of.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
may,
and
just
before
we
go
into
questions,
I
wanted
to
say
that
we're.
A
Per
round
of
questions
for
the
question
and
the
answers,
I
did
request
of
miss
lacy
to.
A
Turn
off
the
volume
on
our
timer,
because
sometimes
it
kind
of
flusters,
the
folks
when
the
timer.
A
With
the
time
we'll
be
able
to
see
the
timer,
I
believe
so
councilmember
rallo
go
ahead.
F
F
Fruit,
congratulations
on
the
federal
grants
you
described.
I
guess
my
first
question.
F
Thousand
dollars
of
your
budget,
as
I
as
I
see
your
revenue
and
if
it
results
in
higher
ridership.
F
C
C
Their
health
and
and
safety
there
and
I
think,
we've
always
been
interested
in
the
possibility.
C
F
F
Possibility
not
on
the
state
side
anymore,
the
the
state
funding
formula
was
changed.
A.
C
Less
than
a
million
dollars
on
an
annual
basis
we're
already
receiving
some
of
those
funds.
C
F
We're
over
time.
Thank
you
sorry,
other
questions
for
mr
may
on
the
bloomington
transit
budget.
G
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
that
presentation.
Mr
may,
could
you
give
a
little
more
detail.
C
As
a
result
of
roads,
road,
construction
or
otherwise,
sometimes
buses
will
get
bunched
up.
C
C
C
C
G
Pays
and
so
much
for
the
students
to
ride
for
free.
Have
you
had
any
conversations
with
iu.
C
C
A
All
right,
council,
member
smith.
H
H
It's
you've
done
a
fantastic
job.
I've
been
here
a
while,
so
you,
you
really
have
done
a
good
job
of.
H
Stewardship,
what
can
you
in
like
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
why
the
board
decided
not
to.
H
Move
ahead
on
kind
of
looking
at
microtransit
for
our
for
our
future.
Thinking
about
that.
C
Yeah
they
and
just
to
clarify
they,
they
opted
not
to
move
ahead
with
the
replacement.
C
C
C
For
example,
if
you've
used
uber
and
lyft,
you
know
that
you
have
the
option
to
tip
the
driver.
C
C
C
And
we
had
proposed
a
flat
one
dollar
passenger
fare
for
the
uber
and
lyft
service.
C
C
A
Council
member
scandaloury:
yes,
thank
you
a
little
more
in
microtransit,
just
to
make
sure.
I
I
In
the
city
of
bloomington,
so
I
have
a
couple
questions
on
that
in
terms
of
federal
grants.
I
Pretty
consistently
is
there
anything
else
you
would
recommend
we
do
to
position
ourselves
better.
C
I
That
resulted
in
some
new
routes
for
the
new
developments
that
we're
going
to
be
seeing.
I
C
C
With
those
developers
good
and
are
there
any
other
such
conversations
underway
right
now
with
any.
C
C
J
Thank
you
for
the
president,
mr
the
presentation,
mr
may.
What
I'd
really
like
to
say
to
get
started.
J
Is
is
thank
you
for
your
service
and,
as
you
look
forward
to
your
new
phase
in
life,
and
we.
J
J
The
same,
but
as
far
as
your
accessibility
and
even
before
I
was
on
council,
I
really
appreciated.
J
J
That
I
really
really
appreciate-
and
I'm
gonna
miss
that
so
thank
you
very
much.
My
question.
J
J
Iu
and
you
indicated
that
the
20
20
21
budget
estimates
were
too
high,
can
you
expound
on.
C
J
How
big
or
how
much
larger,
do
you
foresee
that
happening
or
have
we
reached
pretty
much
the.
J
C
C
C
Probably
going
to
exceed
that,
even
given
the
the
trend
that
we're
seeing
in
advertising
sales.
C
But
again
that
we're
we're
very
close
to
being
maxed
out
so
they're.
You
know
unless
we
grow.
C
J
C
C
C
A
Okay
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
inquire
speaking
of
the
grimes
lane
facility.
A
A
Options
that
we're
not
thinking
of
or
are
are
neighboring
property
owners.
C
Conversations
with
neighboring
property
owners,
however,
we
think
there
could
be
some
potential.
C
C
Potential
site
plans:
you
know
if
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
have
to
expand
our
physical
plant.
If.
C
C
Of
millions
of
dollars-
and
hopefully
it
will
be
a
magnitude
lower
than
that
if
we
can
acquire.
C
Some
additional
properties
adjacent
to
us
here
we
do
have
the
the
clear
creek
that.
C
Runs
right
alongside
our
property
there.
So
that's
a
concern
and
that's
a
factor
that
we
have.
F
Proposed
micro
transit
service
will
it
remain
around
until
the
decision
is
made?
Yes,.
C
It
it
will
continue,
so
no
no
plans
to
change
it
immediately.
Now
I
will
say
if
we
move
ahead.
C
C
C
9,
if
it
comes
to
pass,
I
see,
would
would
that
include
going
down.
Sarah
road
south,
more
spike.
C
Well
sail
road
is
served
by
a
different
route,
at
least
south
of
rogers.
C
F
We
had
a
you,
you
were
implementing
bus
stops
a
couple
per
year.
Is
that
still
continuing.
F
C
C
2022
budget
using
100
federal
grant
funds
that
we
were
able
to
acquire
for
that
terrific
and
what.
C
C
A
Other
second
round
questions
for
mr
may
council,
member
smith.
Thank
you.
C
C
C
C
Provision
of
fixed
route
service-
and
there
are
a
couple
of
areas
that
I
think
are
on
our
radar.
C
C
C
Included
those
cost
estimates
to
and
given
those
here
recently
to
the
city
to
so
they.
C
C
C
D
Thank
you,
mr
may.
It's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
you.
We
will
sorely
miss
you
during
next
year's.
D
Budget
round
my
question
to
you
is:
would
you
like
to
make
a
pitch
for
those
dozen
or
so
drivers.
C
C
C
That
process
will
take
anywhere
from
four
to
eight
weeks.
Before
we'll
have
you.
C
So
if
that
serves
as
some
additional
incentive,
you
know
hopefully
so
that
you
can
benefit
from.
A
G
Sign
up
for
that,
okay,
I
just
want
to
ask
mr
may
like
from
answers
to
other
folks
other.
G
G
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
G
G
C
C
The
hope
is
that
that
those
federal
programs
will
continue.
We
have
heard
that
there
will.
C
Be
a
significantly
expanded
electric
vehicle
fund
as
part
of
the
infrastructure
bill,
so
we.
C
C
J
Thank
you,
mr
may.
You
just
discussed
some
of
the
barriers
to
expanding
service.
J
And
urgent
barrier
having
to
do
with
we're
not
allowed
out
to
operate
outside
of
city
boundaries.
J
C
That
that
would
require
council
approval
there
when
bloomington
transit
was
created
as.
C
C
J
Hey,
thank
you
very
much,
and
you
mentioned
the
oem
electric
batteries.
I
think
I
have
that
term.
J
Correct
and
I
was
wondering
hey:
how
much
do
those
units
cost
and
what
life
do
you
expect.
C
Batteries
on
new
buses
for
six
years
and
after
that,
we
will
have
to
replace
them
at
our
own.
C
C
C
C
J
Thank
you,
and
do
you
anticipate
if
we
ever
get
to
more
fully
electric
operation
or
hybrid.
J
Operations,
the
expense
of
the
fuel
that
we
use
now,
fossil
fuels
and
those
other
things.
J
C
And
so
again,
the
jury
is
still
out
on
this.
We
we
want
to
get
some
experience
with
it.
C
A
Yes,
I
asked
my
colleagues
to
keep
an
eye
on
that
time
and
keep
you
know
if
the
time's.
A
Almost
up,
please
save
your
question
for
the
next
round.
Are
there
any
other
questions
for
mr
may.
A
Also,
as
far
as
the
operation
of
buses
in
a
major
flooding
event,
what
impacts
can
you
predict.
C
C
Of
about
90
minutes,
it
was
completely
gone
and
not
a
drop
was
left
on
the
site
there,
so
it.
A
And
as
far
as
operating
buses
during
a
storm
event
is
there,
do
you
have
a
procedure.
C
C
A
Thank
you,
council,
member
rallo.
Did
you
have
another
question.
F
F
F
F
C
I've
heard
nothing
no
discussion
about
that.
I
would
concur
with
your
assessment
that
it
would
be.
F
A
All
right,
seeing
none
if
any
member
of
the
public
public
would
like
to
comment
on
the
budget.
A
Proposal
for
bloomington
transportation
company
we're
going
to
transit,
you
can
use
the
raise
hand.
A
Function
in
zoom
or
you
can
type
into
the
chat
to
the
meeting
host
and
mrs
is
helping.
A
Us
out
tonight
who
do
we
have?
It
looks
like
greg
alexander
who
should
be
able
to
unmute.
L
L
It
if
you
ride
it,
you'll
see
a
good
number
of
poor
people
and
a
lot
a
lot
of
students.
L
It's
it's
simply
not
as
compelling
the
poor.
Frequency
really
could
stand
to
be
improved,
but.
L
L
Among
young
professionals
that
live
here,
and
and
on
top
of
that
you
just
when
you
got
off
the.
L
L
L
Of
you
campaigned
explicitly
on
increased
funding
for
bloomington
transit.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
A
Bloomington
transit
budget
council
member
rallo
well
I'll
support
this
budget.
I
think
it's.
F
As
the
pandemic,
but
I
think
that
it
was
clear
that
your
that
bloomington
transit
adapted.
F
As
well
as
it
could
to
it,
and
I
look
forward
to
now
higher
riderships,
I
would
like
to
continue.
F
To
explore
our
contribution
in
some
form
to
allow
free
ridership,
I
think
that
that
would
be.
F
And
I
just
want
to
say,
I
think
we
entered
a
golden
age
of
bloomington
transit
under
amazing.
F
And
more
and
more
was
being
done
so
thank
you,
director
may
and
we'll
miss
you.
A
Any
other
council
member
comments.
A
Yes,
council
member
scandal,
lurie,
yes
thank
you.
I
I'll
certainly
be
supporting
this.
I
That
so
best
wishes
as
you
go
forward,
and
thank
you
again
for
all
you've
done.
M
Points
raised,
I
think,
both
by
councilmemberallo
a
number
of
years.
M
M
M
Line
so
that's
an
unfortunate
hurdle
we
have
to
overcome,
as
purely
as
the.
M
His
career,
the
second
thing
is,
I
want.
M
Negotiated
in
the
pud,
but
we
removed
we
all
but
removed
puds
from
our
new
zoning
ordinance.
M
M
A
kind
of
arbitrariness,
but
one
of
the
huge
disadvantages
of
it,
was
that
we
can
no
longer.
A
N
Apologies
to
mr
may
for
missing
your
presentation.
I
had
a
conflict
and
couldn't
step.
N
On
the
meeting
until
about
6
40
5
this
evening,
so
I'm
going
to
abstain
tonight
just
because.
N
I
would
like
to
review
the
presentation
as
well
and
hear
more
before
before.
G
Little
more,
I
would
also
like
to
say
director:
may
it
has
been
a
pure
joy
working
with
you.
G
G
G
G
A
A
His
endless
patience
and
his
expertise
and
his
way
of
explaining
things
very
clearly
that
I've.
A
You've
done
an
excellent
job,
leading
our
public
transportation
system,
a
very
excellent
system.
A
For
many
years,
so
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
do.
Pat's
recommendation.
A
Just
call
the
names,
as
I
see
them
on
my
screen
council
member
scandal-
hurry
yes,.
A
A
M
Okay,
here
we
go
good
evening
council
I'd
like
to
thank
you
all
for
for
the
opportunity
to.
O
Present
our
2022
budget
for
city,
bloomington
utilities
or
cvu,
as
we
call
it
I'd
like
to.
O
Assistant
director
for
engineering
and
james
hall,
our
assistant
director
for
environmental.
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
On
the
agenda
for
cbu
replacing
aging
water
marines,
water
infrastructure
is.
O
O
So
in
the
waterworks,
we're
installing
10
automatic
flushing
hydrants
in
specific
areas.
O
O
The
stormwater
utility
we
are
nearly
complete
with
the
development
of
the
stormwater
master
plan.
O
Over
twenty
thousand
dollars
in
in-kind
services
for
sample
analysis
each
year.
O
We've
seen
a
significant
reduction,
as
you
might
guess,
in
the
amount
of
fuel
that's
being
used
by.
O
The
vehicles
that
serve
the
meter
services
operations,
our
solar
panels.
O
O
Program
we're
investing
150
000
on
the
seven
line
project
for
a
number
of
of
green.
O
O
To
50
000
last
year
in
2020
during
the
pandemic,
we
did
not
use
up
all
of
the
money.
O
Those
awards
are
still
in
process
right
now.
People
are
getting
started
on
their
projects.
O
O
And
this
adjusts,
as
you
all
know,
when
we
brought
the
case
before
you,
we
were.
O
O
Uses
we
also
have
a
concern
about
generational
equity
and
that
is
making
sure
that,
as
we
do,
water.
O
For
2022,
I'm
only
going
to
touch
on
some
goals
in
the
five
largest
categories
in
the
interest
of.
O
O
O
O
Autoflush
hydrants,
with
five
more
of
them
in
2022,
the
new
ones,
are
a
little
fancier
than.
O
And
the
sewer
works
again
we'll
operate
both
of
our
plants
24
hours
a
day
365
days
a
year
without.
O
O
In
the
stormwater
utility
we'll
begin
implementing
the
stormwater
master
plan.
O
Inlets
and
fire
hydrants
and
so
forth,
we'll
complete
the
deployment
and
implementation
of.
O
O
O
One
of
the
ultimate
goals
of
asset
management
is
to
know
what
your
cost
of
your.
O
Towards
some
additional
infrastructure
spending
there
as
well
in
the
third
quarter
of
2022.
O
Next
year,
we
expect
to
spend
about
two
million
dollars
and
replace
up
to
two
and
a
half.
O
Approval
of
our
rate
case
and
get
it
implemented
in
time.
We
also
as
thank
you
so
much
to
council.
O
We
plan
to
complete
that
by
the
end
of
the
third
quarter
next
year,
and
then
we
have
another.
O
Three
to
between
three
and
four
point:
four
million
dollars
of
capital
projects
at
the
monroe
plant.
O
That
we're
doing
at
gilman.
This
is
overall
about
23
million
dollars
and
we
again
anticipate
a.
O
Significant
reduction
in
electrical
consumption
for
aeration
we'll
also
be
lining
between
five.
O
O
To
level
the
playing
field
between
the
people
who
are
requesting
these
grants,
this.
O
O
So,
just
looking
at
some
budget
highlights
in
2020
we
and
we
endured
a
reduction.
O
In
water
revenue
of
about
seven
percent,
we
had
a
similar
reduction
in
revenue
for
sewer.
O
Because
they're
tied
together
pretty
closely
in
2021
we're
experiencing
about
a
two
percent.
O
Increase
over
what
we
saw
in
2020,
we're
anticipating
another,
did
I
skip
a
slide.
O
There's
the
revenue
budgets,
I'm
sorry,
a
similar
increase
of.
O
Maybe
two
and
a
half
or
two
point:
seven
percent
in
water
in
2022.,
sewer.
O
Is
very
closely
connected
with
water
and
stormwater
fee
increases
much
more
slowly.
O
Simply
what
you
saw
a
moment
ago,
mostly
level
or
just
dealing
with
inflation.
O
As
we
did
in
2021
plus
adjusting
for
inflation
and
we're
seeing
the
enr
in
the
sewer
works
is.
O
Going
down
significantly-
and
a
lot
of
that
is
because
some
of
that
money
is
actually.
O
Adjusted
according
to
whatever
dollars
are
left
from
the
other
categories.
A
F
F
F
Hooking
on
you
know
sewers
for
residents
in
those
areas.
O
Sewer
sewer
growth
will
continue
roughly
at
the
pace.
It's
been
growing
in
recent
years
with
one.
O
Exception-
and
that
is
that,
right
now,
this
we
have
this
area
a
in
area
b.
If
you
want
to
expand.
F
Up
to
an
increase
in
in
essentially
sewage
that
would
be
directed
there.
O
O
To
being
able
to
exp
to
getting
the
plant
to
a
20
million
gallon
per
day
capacity,
that.
O
Those
are
incidents
related
to
all
of
our
operations,
so
some
of
those
are.
I
Thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
covid
related
questions
too,
and
thank
you
for
the.
O
That
was
also
reflected
in
the
increased
use
of
the
customer
assistance
program.
We
really.
O
Aren't
seeing
that
as
much
this
year,
it's
more
or
less
normal
this
year,
okay,
good
d,
do
you
see.
O
O
Lockdown
again:
okay,
let's
hope
not
one
of
the
things
we
talked
about
too.
I
think
you
might
have.
I
Our
water
and
so
forth.
May
I
assume
that
we
are
through
those
as
well
and
actually
actually.
O
Not
really
and
some
of
the
places
you
wouldn't
expect
it,
our
water
main
replacement,
is.
O
Dependent
on
our
ability
to
get
that
pipe,
the
supply
of
pipe
has
been
has
been
low,
has
been.
O
Reduced
and
it's
coming
a
lot
a
lot
slower
than
it
had
been
also
just
recently,
we've.
O
So
we
are
seeing
some
some
delays
in
those
kinds
of
things:
okay,
anything
that
will.
I
Cause
a
significant
delay
in
our
water
main
replacement
or
any
not
at
this
point
now.
I
H
It
I'm
really
happy
that
you're
doing
a
lead-based,
pipe
kind
of
identification.
O
Them
for
free,
so
all
the
customer
needs
to
do
is
call
and
we'll
we'll
get
samples
and
then
and.
O
And
test
those
samples
for
lead
well,
thank
you.
You,
you
anticipated
my
second
question.
H
B
One
more
little
point
on
that
and
we
also
do
have
a
an
ongoing
testing
program.
That's.
O
Covered
by
the
leading
copper
world
from
epa,
so
we
are
actually
constantly
monitoring.
O
With
the
with
the
leading
copper
monitoring
program
as
well,
thank
you.
Councilmember
sandberg.
D
D
Bit
about
the
let's
see
what
the
monroe
county
water
fund
and
how
that
interacts
with
friends
of.
D
O
O
Stakeholders
that
is
dedicated
to
recruiting
donations
for
the
for
for
monies
that.
O
O
Of
things
specifically
jane
martin,
who
is
a
pretty
well
known
to
all
of
us
all
of
all
of.
O
Counties
and
so
forth,
so
it's
a
much
broader
participation
through
the
water
fund
than
if
we.
O
Were
just
simply
giving
donations
to
specific,
specific
researchers,
so
that's
the
way
that.
O
We've
been
going,
I
stepped
aside
from
working
on
that
and
but
the
city's
representative
on.
A
Friends
of
lake
monroe
and
their
319
grant
application
that
they
would
like
to.
A
Put
in
this
coming
year
and
they
have
asked
the
city
for
about
sixty
eight
thousand
dollars.
A
A
With
the
city,
the
request
we
really
haven't
received
a
formal
request
at
cbu,
but
our
intention.
O
Judge
this
the
proposal
of
the
second
phase.
Until
I
see
what
came
out
of
the
first.
O
And
and
so
at
this
point
we
really
haven't
been,
haven't
been
looking
at
it
in
detail.
A
O
The
the
fundraising
operations,
so
how
much
does
the
city
contribute
to
the
water
fund.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Yeah
I'll,
follow
up
with
you
specifically
about
the
friends
of
lake
monroe.
O
And
we've
discussed
it,
but
it's
not
something
we're,
including
in
our
budget.
At
this
point.
A
Okay,
other
questions
council,
member
flaherty.
All
right.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
mr
kelson.
N
Much
appreciate
the
the
systems
level
analysis.
You
all
bring
to
everything,
thinking
about
life.
N
Cycles
and
replacement
kind
of
following
on
that
theme
in
the
context
of
stormwater.
N
N
And
what
is
your
general
sense
in
terms
of
the
future
10
20
30
years
on
knowing.
N
Certain
times
of
the
year,
how
are
we
positioned
in
terms
of
mitigating
that.
O
I
I'd
love
to
answer
this
question.
I've
just
been
told
my
internet.
O
That's
the
the
inlet
to
it
that
actually
would
be
near
sample
gate
between
sample
gates
and.
O
Will
be
that's
a
project
that
we
are,
including
in
the
capital
improvement
plan
for
the
the
the.
O
O
O
Most
of
the
iu
campus,
it
goes
up
the
hill
up
to
11th
street
north
of
the
area
that
was.
O
Down
on
kirkwood,
and
so
we
really
don't
have
any
modeling
support
or
any
tools
right
now
for
for.
O
A
I'll
go
with
council
member
sim
since
we're
still
in
the
first
round
of
questions.
J
J
J
Portion
and
you
say
to
invest
at
least
1.5
of
cbu
personnel
budget
for
training
and.
J
Different
areas
of
training,
I
specifically
want
to
ask
you
in
regards
to
the
city's.
J
Upcoming
anti-racist
training
program
and
where
is
cbu
fit
in
there,
and
how
do
you
envision
that.
O
We
anticipate
we'll
be
pulling
all
that
together,
all
of
our
divisions
will
be
involved.
Our.
O
In
the
next
month
or
two,
so
one
of
the
challenges
for
us
is
we're
big
enough.
That.
O
We
have
to
find
large
rooms
to
have
meetings
in
because
of
covid.
We
need
a
lot
of
spacing.
O
J
Years
and
we've
had
relationships
with
them
and
different
leadership
and
that
sort
of
thing.
J
J
Great
relationships
and
some
that
not
so
great,
depending
on
one's
viewpoint,
I
guess
where
are.
J
We
now
or
how
do
you
feel
from
a
relationship
standpoint
not
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
I
know.
J
It's
been
up
and
down
and
up
and
down
and
specifically
we've
been
working,
we've
been.
O
O
Dollars
well,
what
we
did
was
we
provided
them
with
services
that
would
have
cost
them.
Twenty
two.
O
Thousand
dollars
in
kind
services
we're
heading
towards
doing
that
again
this
year,
when.
O
The
new
gauge
was
installed
over
in
kurtz
indiana
on
the
south
fork
of
the
of
salt
creek.
O
Couldn't
make
that
work
with
the
budget
that
they
had.
O
That
sampling
and
I've
actually
gone
out
there
too.
It's
kind
of
a
nice
drive
over
there,
so
we
are.
O
J
A
All
right
seeing
none
councilmember
ralla.
Do
you
have
another
question.
F
Director
kelson,
I
wondered
if
it's
on
budget
and
time
schedule
and
am
I
correct
it-
was.
O
Based
on
the
stormwater
fee
increase
of
2019.,
the
project
was
scheduled
for
was
planned.
O
As
a
two-year
project,
when
our
contractors
started
working
on
it,
they
thought
that
they.
O
Lincoln,
there's
the
the
building
at
third
in
lincoln,
that
was
the
senate
salon.
Building
there.
O
Encountered
at
that
location
when
some
of
the
early
work
on
this
project
was
being
done.
O
O
Containers
tested
and
those
tests
take
a
week
or
two
to
get
back
before
we
can.
O
F
For
the
project
it
it
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
seven
or
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
by.
O
The
time
we
get
done
we're
fairly
confident
that
we'll
be
able
to
recover
part
of
it
from.
O
F
I
see
okay
with
40
seconds
remaining.
Could
you
update
us
on
the
detention
fund
in
deer
park.
F
O
Proximity
of
rain,
gardens
and
and
right-of-way
issues,
but
I
believe
those
are
all
sorted
out
and.
O
I
Particular
the
budget
highlights
for
either
waterworks
or
sewer
works.
One
of
those
sorry.
O
Laura
be
ready,
yeah!
Okay,
great!
Thank
you.
So
if
I
understood
you
correctly,
other
services
enr
that
number.
I
I
I
O
O
Then
we
may
have
to
you
know
we
may
have
to
spend
down
from
cash
or
delay
projects.
I
Okay
and
I'm
not
sure
if
this
question
is
still
relevant
or
not
but
I'll
but
I'll,
ask
it
anyway,.
I
A
lot
more
discussion
among
constituents
than
I
thought
it
would,
let's
say
that
passes
in
early.
I
2022,
I
think
he
said,
and
we
adjust
our
rates
not
long
after
that.
How
long
will
it
take
for.
I
O
Well,
certainly,
and
actually,
if
you
look
at
this
table,
if
you
look
at
enr
in
2020,
even
though
we.
O
Had
a
large
decline
in
revenue,
we
had,
we
spent
more
in
enr
in
2020
than
than
we
are
this
year
or.
O
Done
we're
gonna,
do
the
project
and
pay
for
it
out
of
cash,
which
may
mean
at
the
beginning
of.
O
O
Part
of
why
2021
is
low
this
year,
but
back
to
your
more
specifically
to
the
question.
O
Approved
which
actually
could
happen
as
soon
as
september
or
october,
if,
if
we
achieve
a.
O
O
O
Right
away,
especially
the
ones
at
the
plant
and
then
the
water
main
replacement
the
first
year.
O
A
A
Council,
member
poland,
yes,
thank
you,
mr
kelson.
Thanks
for
the
presentation,
as
always.
M
What's
your
take
on
that,
that's
a
good
question.
The
and
the
answer
is
yes,
a
little
bit
of
both.
O
First
of
all,
the
corner
of
kirkwood
and
dunn
is
one
of
the
low
spots.
It's
a
it's
a
real.
O
Place
where
a
lot
of
water
can
get
there
in
the
first
place
and
then
in
the
second
place.
O
O
O
Hidden
river
project
we'll
add
the
upstream
inlet
for
the
hidden
river
project.
After
that.
O
O
Again,
and
and
try
to
get
some
ideas
about
what
additional
things
we
might
need
to
do.
M
So,
do
you
think
that
the
the
project
you're
working
on,
isn't
really
going
to
bear
full
fruit.
M
Until
that
inlet
is
put
in,
it
won't
fully
yet
reach
for
its
full
fruition.
Until
that's.
O
It's
right
there
at
indiana,
where,
where,
where
I
call
it
clear,
creek
jordan,
river.
O
Had
a
meeting
about
it
today
and
it
yeah
sorry
yeah,
I
guess
mine
is
too
sorry.
A
So
I
wanted
to
ask
a
second-round
question
and
that
is
about
the.
A
The
stormwater
in
a
broad
sense
and
how
cbu
views
green
infrastructure
do
you.
A
O
O
O
O
O
A
H
Consumers
and
or
your
budget
it
really
for
water
and
sewer.
It
won't
affect
very
much
at.
O
All
because
we're
already
the
customers
we
have
our
are,
we
have
customers
inside
the.
O
Because
outside
city
sewer,
customers
pay
a
little
bit
more,
so
their
rev.
That
revenue
would.
O
Go
down
a
little
bit
on
the
stormwater
side,
we
would
start
collecting
the
stormwater
fee.
O
O
O
O
Dollars
that
includes
a
system
development
charge
for
increasing
plant
capacity
over
time.
O
O
Utility,
because
septic
is
a
huge
risk
for
storm
water,
so
we've
been
doing
that
any.
A
A
A
Council
member
rallo,
thank
you
well,
director
kelson.
I
think
you
do
an
extraordinary
job
at.
F
Utilities
and,
as
has
already
been
commented,
there's
so
many
moving
parts.
F
There
it's
mind-boggling
and
I
think,
we're
well
placed
for
keeping
the
quality
of
water
as.
F
To
the
extraordinary
quality
that
it
is
and
I'm
very
satisfied
with
the
various
projects,
I.
F
Look
forward
to
talking
to
you
more
about
funding
for
the
lake
monroe
watershed
and
you
know.
F
Because
that
seems
to
be
a
very
important
project
moving
forward
for
since
we're
using
that.
A
All
right
seeing
none,
I
will
entertain,
do
pass
motion.
A
A
A
K
K
K
K
Management
mitigation,
but
this
past
year
has
really
kind
of
altered
our
mission
a
little
bit.
K
K
K
About
community
risk
reduction,
you
know
we
are
not
just
in
the
business
of
responding
anymore.
K
We
have
tried
many
innovative
emergency
response
solutions
over
the
years.
Everything.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
You
that
all
of
those
investments
are
paying
off.
In
fact,
over
the
past
five
years,
we've
had
a
31.
K
K
Good
enough
to
talk
about
it,
we
need
to
constantly
be
reminded
of
it
understanding
what
is
going.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
That
have
been
working
with
that.
You
know,
for
the
first
time
that
I
am
aware
of,
we
were
able
to.
K
K
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week,
you
see
things
like
the
picture
here.
A
lot
of
people.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
Increase
interoperability
with
other
fire
agencies
within
monroe
county
and
the
state
of
indiana.
K
K
From
our
previous
goals,
a
lot
of
this
comes
down
to
that
you
created
that
fire
marshall
position.
K
K
Contacts
we're
getting
out
to
the
schools,
you
know
working
with
the
red
cross.
You
know
we
looked.
K
K
K
K
Rest
of
the
world
is
dealing
with
and
because
we
do
have
a
lot
of
new
people
making
sure
we're.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
Announced
that
there's
a
2.75
increase
the
other
big
portion
of
why
category
one
went
up.
K
A
lot
of
the
things
that
we've
been
buying,
the
large
apparatus,
the
you
know,
the
new
equipment.
K
K
K
K
Big
capital
items
in
line
442,
that's
replacement
of
radios
and
radio
equipment.
K
K
K
Lake
griffey,
you
know
some
of
the
parks.
In
fact
it's
been
moved
down
to
station
five
and
it's.
K
Space
rescue
truck,
we
are
confined
space
rescue
entity
for
the
city,
for
iu
and
for
cbu.
K
K
K
A
Both
my
colleagues
and
the
chief
and
other
staff
who
may
be
answering
questions
that.
A
J
For
the
presentation-
and
please
thank
all
of
our
officers
for
their
service
and
even
our.
J
We've
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
diversity
within
the
ranks
of
your
department
and.
K
Great
great
questions-
and
I
I'm
more
than
happy
to
talk
about
this
so.
K
Drastically
improved,
you
know
when
I
got
here
that
I
think
the
hiring
process
was
about
2.2
2.2.
K
Our
largest
and
most
diverse,
recruit
class
ever
go
through
and
just
to
put
it
on
par.
K
K
K
We
are
doing
a
lot
of
outreach
going
out
to
you
know:
minority-owned
businesses
getting
out.
K
Into
the
community,
and
really
we're
really
happy
the
fact
that
we
now
have
enough
diversity.
K
Where
we
can
have
a
diversity
committee
to
help
us
think
about
where
else
we
can
go.
J
Opportunities
through
the
hoosier
hills,
training
and
that
sort
of
thing
with
some
of
our
younger.
J
K
To
support
hoosier
hills
wholly
and
we
have
been
encouraged
not
only
through
hoosier
hills,.
K
A
D
Starting
to
move
into
your
new
digs,
so
my
question
is
how's
that
going.
How
are
you
recovering.
D
And
what's
the
status
well,
first
off,
thank
you
for
coming
out
and
I'll
extend
that
invitation
to.
K
Any
council
member
that
wants
to
see
the
damage
at
the
old
headquarters
as
we're
calling
it
now.
K
So
it's
not
just
the
flood
damage,
you
know,
potentially
we're
getting
mold
testing
done
now.
K
K
K
K
Back,
it's
it's
hard
for
a
lot
of
them
to
even
try
to
believe
that.
So
it
took
a
lot
of
innovation.
K
It
took
a
lot
of
hard
work
from
especially
on
behalf
of
the
station
captain
from
headquarters.
F
F
Has
to
do
with
your
focus
on
response
time,
which
I
appreciate
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
that.
F
96
are
within
eight
minutes.
My
question
has
to
do
with
facilities,
anticipating
future
development.
F
I
I'm
concerned
about
capacity.
I
know
that
for
many
decades
now
we've
been
talking
about
a.
F
Future
facility
on
the
south
west
side,
I
assume
that's
still
a
need.
F
Could
you
talk
about?
Are
there
discussions
planning
for
future
facilities
like
that.
K
K
K
K
K
K
A
That
was
where
my
question
lies,
so
the
capital
plan
shows
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
A
Might
need
to
make
soon
absolutely
we
are
still
balancing
out
what
may
be
an
insurance
claim.
K
Obviously,
we
want
to
be
smart
about
it.
The
overall
is
600
000
that
we're
looking
for
stations.
K
That
building
so
we're
at
a
point
now
is
you
know,
is
it
even
a
valuable
investment
in
that.
K
K
K
K
K
But
you
are
right:
300
000
is
not
enough
to
take
care
of
what's
going
on
at
station.
One
at
this.
K
Point
that
is
just
going
off
of
the
plan
that
was
built
by
the
engineers
that
did
the
station.
A
N
Is
blurred
sometimes,
with
my
blurred
background?
Thank
you,
chief
moore
for
the
presentation.
N
And
thank
you
to
the
everyone
on
the
with
the
fire
department
for
their
service.
Absolutely.
N
Wanted
to
follow
up,
though,
on
on
one
of
the
newer
programs,
the
the
ask
for
community
care
program.
N
And
establishing
that
I
noted
in
your
memo
that
this
will
be
following
the
state's
mobile.
N
What
the
state
requirements
are,
how
that's
structured
one
of
the
I
think
goals
highlighted.
N
Addressing
issues
that
may
need
not
be
be
a
not
going
on
call
necessarily
so
yeah
if.
N
You
could
explain
a
little
more
about
the
program,
how
its
success
will
be
measured
and
maybe
some.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
A
J
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
a
little
bit
cheap
more
on
them.
It
might
have
been
part
of.
J
Is
that
and
and
then
you
said,
it
was
for
extra
things
and
I
wasn't
clear
on
what
those
extra.
J
Things
were,
I
don't
know
the
process
of
billing
someone's
like
I
may
not
get
ill,
but
you
may
bill.
J
K
K
J
J
And
it's
a
little
bit
concerning,
maybe
because
I
just
don't
understand
it.
If
you
could
elaborate.
J
K
K
K
K
K
A
Ray's
hand
yeah
thank
you,
hi
chief
moore,
thanks
again
for
another
good
presentation,
always.
M
Encouraged
to
see
the
department
making
progress,
one
thing
I
wanted.
M
And
I
was
hoping
for
news:
has
the
iso
rendered
a
decision
on
what
our
rating
will
be.
K
K
M
K
Away
from
being
that
four-
and
we
are
now
a
borderline
one,
with
the
improvements
in
equipment.
K
Total-
and
you
say
some
of
them
are
in
the
indianapolis
metro
area.
Can
you
name
them.
K
K
Speak
well,
I
appreciate
that
you
do
that.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
don't
feel
the
need
to
do
that.
M
M
You
for
the
information,
and
I'm
have
my
fingers
crossed
for
an
excellent
bit
of
news.
Thank
you.
K
Protection,
water
systems
and
dispatch
and
what
it
does
is
it
scores
you
against
your
community.
K
You
is
that
the
hot,
the
lower
that
number
the
less
that
certain
buildings
need
to
invest
to
make.
K
K
K
K
K
Saying
that
we
are
the
best
at
doing
what
we're
doing
versus
the
threat
that
we
were
facing.
A
All
right,
I
will
jump
in
with
a
question.
K
K
Help
they
can
call
us.
You
know
a
great
example
that
hit
the
newspaper
was
the
five
homes.
K
K
K
A
Tonight
I
see
one
raised
hand,
nathan
screen
named
nathan,
muchfar
and
the
person
should
be
able.
A
P
In
fact,
to
relieve
funding,
to
increase
the
funding
available
and
to
re
leave.
P
P
P
A
You
anybody
else
from
the
public
care
to
comment
on
the
fire
department
budget.
A
N
All
the
updates
and
goals,
especially
around
training
and
recruitment
and
diversity
and.
N
I
may
still
have
a
few
follow-up
questions
in
writing
for
following
the
budget
process.
I'm.
N
Gonna
stay
in
tonight,
but
generally
like
what
I
see
and
and
feel
supportive
of
this.
Thank
you.
A
Very
forward-thinking-
and
it
makes
sense
to
try
to
you
know
instead
of
responding
to
multiple.
A
A
A
A
Get
some
additional
training
for
for
our
fire
department
officers
to
to
launch
that
next
year,.