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Okay,
thank
you,
president
iconic,
for
we
will
now
move
on
to
the
agenda
summation.
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A
17-17
area
7
has
to
do
with
north
bloomington
annexation
area,
north
bloomington,
annexation.
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F
A
Will
the
clerk,
please
call
the
rule,
mr
president,
I'm
sorry
we
can't
go
straight.
D
Into
presentation,
because
the
vote
on
this
one
will
be
a
vote
to
adopt
or
not
or
have
a
motion.
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G
And
then
perhaps
I'll
ask
mr
ralph
if
he
has
any
further
further
comments.
I
come
before.
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G
G
Road
improvements
related
to
road
standards,
police
services
will
be
in
the
next
year.
Two.
G
Additionally,
to
my
colleagues,
we're
not
only
annexing.
G
People
who
will
not
receive
an
equitable
exchange
for
being
annexed
but
they're
being
annexed.
F
Well,
just
to
say
that
you
know
the
merits
of
this
were
obscured
last
time.
The
last
time
we.
F
And,
as
my
colleague,
councilmember
smith
said,
you
know,
in
addition
to
their
clear
lack
of.
F
They're
quite
near
unanimous
in
their
opposition
to
annexation
and
is
very
different
than
the.
F
Neighborhood
to
the
north,
which
is
have
already
signed
waivers,
so
this
amendment
provides.
F
A
mechanism
to
initially
remove
both
areas
and
then
come
back
when
the
administration
has.
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G
A
H
H
And
appreciate
mike
rooker,
explaining
the
some
of
the
issues
with
the
timing
and
the
and.
I
Mayor
hamilton,
I'm
going
to
confine
my
comments
just
to
amendment
8
here
to
ordinance
17-12.
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A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
rooker.
Now
we
will
go
to
council
members,
I
believe,
is
proper.
A
For
questions
to
sponsors
and
or
administration.
C
A
Than
we
may
adjust,
I
will
remind
the
public
if
anyone
wishes
to
speak
to
amendment
08
on.
A
A
a
note
through
chat,
indicating
that
your
desire
to
speak,
I
will
repeat
folks.
A
This
is
for
amendment
o,
eight
of
ordinance,
17-12
and
not
to
be
redundant.
This.
A
Well,
that's
all
I
need
to
say
about
that.
Okay,
mr
lucas,
I
see
bye.
C
To
comment
coming
in
through
individually
used
in
the
same
device.
C
Please
let
us
know
when
you
that
would
like
to
speak
advice.
C
Mr
president,
did
you
want
to
well,
I
just
want
to
say:
is
it
proper
for
me
to
say
that
with.
A
Public
comments
in
three
minutes:
okay,
I
see
no
objections.
Okay,
we
have
mr
lucas
no
reminding.
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K
K
Heritage
woods
is
moved
into
the
city
inventory
for
the
requirements
for
dead.
K
Near-Dead
trees,
removal
of
these
trees
from
the
street
border
could
become
extremely
expensive.
K
We
also
have
meadowed
areas
which
could
be
endangered,
certainly
by
the
stickmore
land,
trust.
K
K
Be
trimmed
from
quote-unquote
noxious
weeds,
so
I
do
have
concerns
about
whether
or
not
the
city.
A
L
As
potential
and
exceeds
mr
chair
and
and
sir
sorry
to
interrupt.
D
That
that
process,
as
as
a
matter
of
procedure
and
order,
if
the
comment
is
specific
to
area
two.
D
In
the
sterling
woods
neighborhood,
the
appropriate
time
would
be
when
we
consider
ordinance
1712's.
D
Adoption,
regardless
of
the
outcome
of
this
amendment,
I
hope
that
clarifies-
and
I
don't
mean.
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A
M
We
do
have
private
trash
removal,
we
wouldn't
benefit
in
any
way
from
the
city,
annexation.
M
And
as
far
as
us
pulling
out
onto
the
city,
roads
or
the
county
highway
446
I
mean
we
still.
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A
And
thank
you
for
your
contribution
this
evening.
What
do
we
have
next,
mr
lucas,.
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S
One
more
time
considering
pausing
this
annexation.
I
really
just
want
to
reiterate
everything.
S
S
S
Your
consideration
and
my
neighbor
said
it
better
than
I
did:
hi
jeremy
pennington.
T
Six
also
east
certain
woods
road
also
opposed
to
annexation.
We
appreciate
the.
T
Time
to
address
this,
like
my
wife
said
we
have
been
trying
to
address
this
for
months.
T
And
while
that's
inconvenient
for
the
plans
of
the
city
that
doesn't
justify.
T
As
other
people
have
detailed,
it
in
no
way
fits
the
profile
of
an
ideal
annexation
target.
T
We
do
receive
city
water-
that
is
true.
That's
the
only
service
we
receive
currently
and.
T
The
basis
of
services,
this
is
not
a
fair
exchange.
This
is
simply
a
grab
at
property
and
tax
base.
A
Okay,
we'll
give
it
just
a
second
before
we
go
to
council
questions
and
our
final
comments.
A
Okay,
mr
lucas
c9,
can
you
confirm
I
I
don't
see
any
additional
comment
this
time.
U
Okay,
thank
you.
I
have
several
questions,
but
I
want
to
concentrate
first
on
the
road
brought.
U
I
I
I
I
I
I
U
Generally
upon
the
property
owner
to
to
to
build
or
maintain,
although
we
do
make
an
effort
to.
U
Spend
money
to
build
sidewalks
throughout
the
city,
what
about
street
lights?
If
they
don't
want.
U
U
Okay,
so
then
I
guess
the
last
part
of
that
would
be.
Is
the
road
somehow
not
up
to
a
standard
of.
U
Other
roads,
you
know
what
did
staff
say
about
it's
I
mean
I,
I
guess
I
just
don't
get.
I
I
I
I
More
than
a
hundred
years,
we
accept
that
that's
just
the
reality
in
in
various
parts.
I
A
U
Ask
and
I'm
not
sure
whether
mr
rooker
knows,
or
somebody
else
does,
but
for
how
long
has.
U
V
V
Well,
this
is
challenging.
I
think
this
question
is
directed
to
mr
rooker,
perhaps
to
to
mr
lucas.
V
I
And
there
he
is
okay,
yeah,
steve
unger,
bose,
mckinnon
evans,
outside
annexation,
council
for.
W
The
city,
yes,
there
is
a
there's,
a
disannexation
process
outlined
in
a
statute.
It's
been
a
while.
V
F
A
Okay,
I
do
have
one
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
for
mr
hunger
or
mr
rooker,
but
my
question
has.
A
To
do
with
the
dis
annexation
process,
can
you
describe
the
time
frame
if
something
were
that.
W
F
Nothing
novel's
happening
here
with
this
amendment
insofar
as
we're
not
proposing
de.
F
Novo
a
new
area
to
be
annexed
and
I'm
addressing
mr
rooker's
comments
and.
F
Like
the
areas
that
we've
already
removed,
they
will
have
an
adjusted
fiscal
impact.
F
Deliberations
of
these
areas
should
already
be
resolved.
It
minimizes
the
role
of
the
council.
F
That
the
council
learns
processes,
fact
fines,
debates
and
yes
may
bring
amendments.
F
That
the
administration's
pointing
to
that
again
shows
a
disdain
for
the
council.
F
We
proceeded
with
an
amendment,
so
I
I
think
that
mr
rooker
paints
an
exaggerated
picture
here.
F
F
F
The
heritage
woods
have
said
this
is,
if
it's
an
inappropriate
annexation,
and
we
think
it
is.
F
And,
and
by
the
way
I
find
that
the
merits
of
annexing,
because
someone
is.
F
City
water,
so
I
again,
I
think,
that's
a
false
argument,
but
I
I
hope,
you'll
support.
F
The
amendment,
I
think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
and
all
in
there.
Thank
you
thank
you.
A
Council
member
flaherty,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
I
appreciate
again
hearing
the.
D
Comments
and
perspectives
of
heritage
woods,
road
residents.
I
appreciate
the
input
we've
received.
D
Length
with
quite
a
few
residents,
though,
though
I
don't
think
everyone
has
emailed
me.
D
There
are
a
lot
of
factors
that
go
into
making
the
most
equitable
decisions.
We
can.
D
D
All
trying
to
do
I
mentioned
last
week
that
heritage
was
road
or
two
weeks
ago
is
a
fairly.
D
Close
question
for
me,
but
on
balance
I
I
still
favor,
including
it
in
the
area2.
D
Annexation
proposal
four
reasons
of
equity.
I
think
all
of
the
arguments
that
I've
heard.
D
D
Level,
I
think
areas
that
have
had
sewer
service
extended
and
have
signed
waivers.
D
In
exchange
for
that
acknowledging
the
likely
funeral
future
annexation
are
pretty.
D
D
D
Utilities
about
the
prospects
of
sewer
service
in
heritage
loads,
road
specifically
and.
D
D
D
D
Conversation
with
those
neighbors
about
that
specific
issue,
if
any
of
them
are
interested.
D
G
G
In
the
different
areas
that
are
being
asked
or
brought
in
by
annexation
and.
G
So
I
brought
it
back
and
I
apologize
for
all
the
anxiety.
It's
caused
everybody
at
the
city.
G
And
and
mr
rooker
and
all
had
I
known
what
I
know
now,
I
would
have
brought
it
back.
I
would
have.
G
Due
consideration-
and
I
hope
you
all
support
it
and
thank
you
very
much-
I
appreciate
it.
X
Yes,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
everybody's
engagement
on
these
difficult
questions.
X
Of
annexation,
it's
a
very
imperfect
process.
It's
very
difficult
because.
X
X
So
it's
I
in
listening
and
reading
you're
listening
to
the
comments
from
heritage,
woods,
road.
X
I
just
don't
think
their
fears
are
going
to
be
realized.
The
the
road
is
not
going
to
change.
X
X
Protections,
if
that
would
prevent
any
kind
of
irresponsible
building
along
that
road.
X
We're
not
going
to
you
know,
bulldoze
people's
front
yards
and
widen
the
street.
I
mean.
X
Streets
where
they
have
to
back
up
trucks,
you
know
our
our
professionals
in
in
sanitation.
X
And
and
the
street
department
have
inspected
it
and
said
you
know
we
can
we
can
handle.
X
V
Yes,
thank
you
and
my
thanks
as
well
to
everyone
who
has
who
has
wrestled
with
this
issue.
V
In
order
for
this
very
complex
process-
and
I
don't
doubt
for
a
minute.
V
To
oppose
the
amendment,
I
acknowledge
it,
I
think
it's
true,
but
but
if
something.
V
V
Within
city
boundaries
outside
of
remonstrance
outside
of
annexation,
that
question
is
very.
V
Is
a
mechanism
for
that,
if
that
makes
sense
so
with
that,
like
council
member.
V
My
vote
will
be
the
same,
so
I
will
be
opposing
this
amendment.
Thank
you.
U
Thank
you.
Mr
president,
councilmember
smith
made
the
argument
that
residents
of
the
next.
U
The
power
to
annex
has
been
an
essential
power
of
cities
since
the
beginning.
U
Of
organized
government,
at
least
in
the
in
the
us
and
yeah,
I
think
that
this
has
been
a
second.
U
Chance
for
heritage
woods
road
to
make
their
case
and
one
of
the
parts
of
the
case
they've
made.
U
Is
that
where
they
live
is
rural?
I
have
a
couple
of
thoughts
of
that
first,
it
may
be.
U
And
there
were
trees
cleared
the
under
what
rules
was
this
area
developed
at
the
time.
U
You
know
I
the
the
fact
is
that
times
change
where's.
My
note
here
I
think.
U
There's
going
to,
I
think
I
think
that
the
other
thing
about
the
rurality
is
that
if.
U
If
it's,
if
it's
important,
that
existing
city
zoning
code
isn't
compatible
with
this
area,.
U
Bloomington
should
annex
unionville
or
new
union
bill
that
the
annexations
are
happening
in.
U
Places
that
were
built
very
close
to
the
city
for
a
reason
this
place,
I
think,
is-
has
one.
U
Of
the
strongest
arguments
to
make
an
exception
but,
as
I
said
with
amendment
four
last
time,.
U
I
thought
it
was
a
very
close
call
like
the
conspiracy
customer
flaherty
said.
Meanwhile,
I.
U
The
city
limits-
and
it
goes
even
farther
south
than
that
and
you
know-
that's
been.
U
U
State
highways
that
are
entirely
within
the
city,
and
I
also
think
there's
gonna
come
a
day
when.
U
It
someday
soon
because
development
happens,
will
there
be
any
more
significant
development.
U
It
be
controlled
by
a
body
like
the
city
of
bloomington,
which
is
very
serious
about.
U
Density,
finally,
if
disannexation
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
the
neighborhood
will.
U
Pursue
and
council
wants
to
entertain,
we've
heard
that
the
process
should
take
six
months.
U
This
process
took
nine,
not
including
the
unfortunate
interruption
by
the
unconstitutional.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and,
as
I
stated
earlier
since
this
amendment
fails,
I
suggest.
A
Which
we
will
do
unless
there's
no
objections
is
that
correct?
Mr
lucas.
A
A
A
X
X
X
X
X
X
A
A
In
second,
I
will
remind
everyone
that
it
is
debatable
and
takes
two-thirds
votes
to
pass.
X
Yes,
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
I
wanted
to
emphasize
that
this
is
a
proposed.
X
X
On
the
different
geographic
areas,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
Thank
you
very.
A
Much
constantly
council
member
pete
mosmet,
and
I
will
add
that
this
is
the
process
by
which.
A
We
conducted
our
meeting
in
august
as
well
for
the
resolutions
so
saying
that,
with.
A
A
Mr
lucas,
is
it
now
time
to
go
to
parliamentary
for
introduction
or
do.
A
A
Very
much
do
we
brothers,
mayor,
hamilton,
hello,
mayor,
hamilton,
hello,
please
thank
you
very
much.
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W
Thank
you
mayor,
thank
you,
council,
again,
steve
unger,
bose,
mckinney
and
evans
outside
legal.
W
Counsel
with
respect
to
annexation
for
the
city
I'll
say
also
that
other
members
of
kind
of
our.
W
W
Large
undertaking-
and
it
really
was
a
team
effort,
of
course-
ready
financial
spent
quite
a
bit.
W
So
did
your
department
heads
so
I
will
say
it
was
a.
It
was
a
large
undertaking
and
a
team
effort.
W
W
W
W
This
plan
again
addresses
the
city
approached
this,
recognizing
that
each
annexation
area.
W
W
W
Into
making
the
changes
to
to
come
up
with
version
5.0,
of
course,
the
boundaries
have
been.
W
W
W
But
has
been
certified
by
the
dlgf
since
then
also
adds
the
impoundment
funds
for
the
additional.
W
W
W
W
And
for
for
these
annexations,
so
with
that,
that
is
all
for
my
comments
for
now.
Thank
you.
A
More
presentations
from
anyone
on
city,
administration
or
the
mayor's
office.
A
Okay,
saying
none:
we
now
move
to
the
point
where
council
members
may.
A
Council,
member
piedmont,
smith,
yes,
mr
unger,
you
mentioned
that
some
of
the.
X
About
fiscal
plan
version
four:
can
you
provide
some
more
detail
as
to.
X
Other
governmental
bodies-
yes,
and
certainly
tim
stricker-
can
give
more
detail
on.
W
Funds
or
tif
funds,
and
so
there's
some
updates
to
reflect
that
one
of
the
you
you
may
recall.
W
One
of
the
one
of
the
comments
from
the
fiscal
consultant
that
the
county
engaged
was
that
it
did.
W
Y
Inadvertently
included
a
parcel
that
is
subject
to
the.
A
W
G
W
Yes,
the
statute
gives
examples
non.
You
know,
I
really
think
of
it.
W
W
W
A
U
Sorry,
thank
you.
Okay,
do
we
have
any
other
question
from
council
members
to
the
presenters.
A
X
X
Issue
in
the
context
of
next
year's
budget,
but
could
mr
unger
or
ms
guthrie
review.
X
For
us
what
the
plans
are
for
providing
police
protection
to
the
annex
areas.
W
Yes,
I
maybe
the
best
thing
I
could
do
is
pull
up
the
fiscal
plan.
Narrative.
W
W
Wise
version
5.0
on
page
60,
beginning
on
page
61
and
into
page
62
estimates
again
and.
W
Of
five,
basically
five,
five
civilian
personnel
again,
that
assumes
all
of
the
annexation
area.
W
W
Analysis
of
the
costs
that
went
along
with
those
positions,
what
that
that
cost
is,
for
example,.
W
To
outfit
an
officer
provide
him
the
computer
with
transportation
and
then
also
included
some.
X
So
since
we
know
it
takes
a
long
time
to
hire
police
officers
and
get
them
trained.
X
Is
that
something
that
would
start
as
I
don't
know
how?
How
soon
could
that
start.
W
Well,
once
once
and
again,
some
of
that
can
depend
on
at
what
point
the
city
knows.
W
For
a
remonstrance
which
could
delay
the
city
knowing
when
these
will
become
effective,
but
I.
W
But
I
will
say
the
plan.
The
plan
shows
that
the
city
can
credibly
pay
for
those
services
and.
W
That
and
begin
providing
police
protection
in
the
first
year
after
the
annexations
are
completed.
W
That
if
you
and
and
I
may
maybe
tell
him
if
he's
available,
to
jump
and
pull
that.
W
Of
service,
but
there
is
generally
an
assumption
across
the
board
of
a
three.
W
A
Thank
you,
councilman
rolo.
We
have
any
other
questions
of
the
presenters
by
council.
X
Sorry,
I
I
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
police
question.
So
does
the
fiscal
plan
presume
we're.
W
I
So
obviously
it's
entirely
possible
that
the
council
might
anticipate
that.
But
it's
not
part.
I
Steve
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
there,
but
of
course
you
know
they're
the
city,
that's
not.
W
Frame
and
then
outlines
how
you
expect
to
be
able
to
pay
for
that
or
that
you
you
can
pay
for.
W
The
costs
are
to
provide
those
services
in
year,
one
and
really
over
the
first
four
years.
F
Mr
unger,
just
again
following
on
this,
is
the
23
to
20
to
35
additional
officers.
F
W
Yes,
yes,
that's
the
way,
and
I
I
want
to
say
too
it's
you
know
with
with.
F
W
W
Right,
it
is
an
estimate
of
how
many
officers
will
be
needed
based
off
of
financial
predictions.
W
W
F
So
I'm
almost
running
out
of
time,
so
just
to
be
clear,
we
had
an
organizational
assessment.
W
Projections
that
were
provided
by
the
by
the
department,
correct
okay,
all
right.
Thank.
A
A
Council,
member
flaherty,
yes,
mr
president,
I
would
like
to
move
that.
A
Thank
you.
It
has
been
movement
second,
that
resolution
21-28
be
introduced
and
read
by
the.
B
B
D
And
just
a
reminder
to:
oh
I'm
sorry
I
was
thinking
we
were
going
to
introduce
all.
D
The
motions
initially,
but
I
think,
we're
inviting
presentation
at
this
point
on
the
individual.
D
Resolution
in
council
questions,
although
we're
saving
public
comment
until
the
end,
do
I
have
that.
A
A
C
That
was
made
anticipates
hearing
any
further
presentation
from
the
administration.
C
Make
but
if
they
would
like
to
make
further
comments,
they
have
an
opportunity
to
do
so.
C
Each
resolution
before
introducing
introduction
of
the
following
resolution.
A
21-28
see
ms
guthrie
hello,
yes,
felipe
guthrie
corporation
council.
A
C
There
may
not
be
any
further
questions,
but
motion
allowed
for
specific
questions
on.
A
D
Prior
to
moving
to
adoption
does
that
does
that
make
sense?
It
was
a
complicated
motion.
E
Essentially,
since
we
know
we
have
no
more
presentation
from
the
administration
after
the.
F
Well,
yeah,
so
I'd
like
an
answer
from
the
administration,
someone
in.
F
The
administration
we
we
had
questions
of
mr
unger,
exploring
that
within.
F
These
ordinances
are
budgeting
for
police,
but
I'm
hard-pressed
to
imagine
that
we
will
have.
I
H
H
What
it
will
take
looked
at
the
financial
need
for
it.
Of
course
it
gives
us
three
years
to
do
that.
H
I
No,
and-
and
I
think
you
know
obviously
there's
been
a
large
discussion
about
this
and.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
do
believe
we
have
more
resolutions
for
second
reading
tonight.
D
And
synopsis
only
second,
thank
you
been
probably
moved
in
a
second
about
the
clerk
introduce.
A
B
B
B
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
do
believe
that
administration
have
no
presentation.
A
In
second
of
resolution,
21-30
be
introduced
and
read
by
the
clerk
by
title
synopsis.
Only.
B
B
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
do
believe
we
have
more
resolution
for
second
reading
tonight.
A
Council
member
questions,
after
no
administrative
presentation.
A
Thank
you.
It's
been
properly
moved
in
second,
the
resolution
21-31
be
introduced.
B
B
B
A
Okay,
say
none.
I
do
believe
we
have
more
resolutions
for
a
second
reading
tonight.
D
Okay,
yes,
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
move
the
resolution,
21-32.