City of Bloomington, Indiana City Council, 16 Sep 2020

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All right, uh I will call this meeting to order.

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This is a regular session of the bloomington.

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Common council for the 16th of september 2020.

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Will the clerk please call yes, councilman morello.

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I'm here mallory here rosenbarker here.

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Sims here bowling here, piedmont, smith,.

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Here: clarity here smith here.

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And sandberg here, thank you all present and accounted for.

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Here is a look at what we'll be discussing this evening.

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We will have approval three sets of approval of minutes.

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uh We will hear reports from count members from the mayor and city offices.

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Council committees and the public that reports from the public will be on.

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Items not currently on tonight's agenda, we'll have 20 minutes for that.

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We'll hear appointments to boards and commissions uh legislation for second.

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Reading resolutions includes ordinance 2015 to rezone a 19.73 acre.

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Property from employment em to residential estate.

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Re regarding 2300 west tap road duncan.

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Campbell petitioner ordinance 2016 to establish the.

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Sustainable development non-reverting fund and to amend title ii of the bloomington municipal code entitled administration.

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And personnel adding chapter 2.35 entitled sustainable.

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Development fund, advisory, commission and resolution 2013 a resolution.

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Proposing an ordinance to modify the monroe county.

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Local income tax rate allocate the additional revenues to.

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Economic development and cast votes in favor of the ordinance.

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We'll have legislation for first reading resolutions, additional public comment.

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Maximum 25 minutes for items uh also not on tonight's agenda, we'll.

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Take up matters of council schedule and we will adjourn to that end. Let's now start with approval of minutes. Are there any.

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Minutes to be approved no.

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No done no minutes, no okay! I I see some listed here from okay.

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uh No minutes to approve we'll go now to reports from council members. I will.

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Start with uh the people who are furthest to the.

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Right on my screen, that means starting with councilmember.

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No report, thank you. Councilor piedmont, smith,.

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No report councilman varallo no report. Thank you, council member.

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Smith no report. Thank you, council member flaherty, no report. Thanks.

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Councilmember sims no report. Thank you. Councilmember.

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Sandberg nothing here, thanks, councilmember scan.

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Blurry no report, thank you. That makes it an.

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Even nine, no reports from council members we go now to reports.

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From the mayor and city offices, I see uh his honor the mayor, john hamilton,.

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Here, mr uh mr mayor, please give us your report. Thank you. Can you hear me.

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All right, coming through loud and clear great, I.

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Want to thank you for having this session, of course, and thank.

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You for the chance to speak briefly, I I wish I were able to be in a room with.

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You in this important night, but I appreciate the chance to speak in support of a modest increase in our local income.

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Tax, which you will be considering of 0.25.

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Percent to help our community recover and to.

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Bring a brighter future to all bloomingtonians.

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Tonight is the culmination of an ongoing conversation. We began.

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Back in january, and don't worry, I am not going to repeat.

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Or even summarize all I've said before, but I do ask you to. Let me take the time.

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I need briefly to make some essential points on.

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This vital measure why we need this.

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Modest increase now tonight is a bit complicated, even counter-intuitive for.

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Reasons we have discussed, the need certainly will become more apparent in.

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Coming months and years, the bottom line is.

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That a vibrant, responsive government with adequate resources is most.

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Vital in times of greatest challenges as the history of our community and our.

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Country clearly, teach us and we certainly face.

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Enormous challenges now and for the foreseeable.

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Future covid climate change, racial justice, growing economic.

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Disruptions and inequality and the accompanying growing.

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Needs for food and housing and other essentials for those in our community who will continue.

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To be hardest hit in difficult times, we face city revenue pressures for.

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Several coming years and we are using our rainy.

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Day, surplus to help weather the immediate storms.

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But for the longer term we have the very important decision to make will.

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Bloomington have the resources we need to preserve what we love about.

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Bloomington and move forward for everyone in our.

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Community again, I won't repeat past presentations.

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Including one just last week, I I would like to respond very.

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Briefly, to what I hear as the main oppositions to the.

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Proposal concern one: the timing is bad.

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Wait true in some ways this may not be ideal.

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Timing, precisely because these are uncertain.

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And challenging times, but the need is clear right now and the.

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Reality is, we do not have the luxury of waiting.

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Months or even weeks, we have to act.

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Now, because of the serious threats already demonstrated by the state.

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Legislature that if we do not, the choice may well be.

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Taken away from us or hamstrung early next.

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Year concern two: the planned uses of tax.

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Proceeds aren't finalized in detail or more process is needed among the.

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Council and the public to decide the uses. This is absolutely.

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True, but it is also absolutely not a reason.

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To vote, no more process is needed to determine the ultimate uses.

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We will have varied views on priorities and and the views may change over the.

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Years I have proposed some ideas, but I.

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Strongly support a robust public process to debate and.

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Plan the uses eventually uses with the.

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Council and the public before a dime is invested to meet.

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Essential needs concern three public engagement.

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Is lacking on whether to impose the tax itself.

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In fact, public engagement has been occurring generally since january 1.

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When I first proposed an increase in mid-july, more specifically.

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Data suggests people actually know where they stand on, whether a tax.

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Is appropriate the underlying question whether additional revenue is needed and.

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Appropriate is not that complicated and it is up to.

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You concerned four other jurisdictions.

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Oppose it, so the city should not pass the ordinance. The resolution true.

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The county has voiced opposition and it is important to hear that.

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But our responsibility is to determine what is right for bloomington.

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Not other communities, we don't represent the state legislature mandates this tax.

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Be imposed county-wide and it defines.

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Who votes and how, after we pass this tax, we will be in a.

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Much stronger position to go arm-in-arm with our colleagues.

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To ask the state legislature to allow us to put this.

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In place in the city, only as we have asked for many years.

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And, of course, we'll all continue to collaborate as we do every.

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Day, including on how best to invest available resources.

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Last concern: five: the tax itself is just a bad idea.

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Because it's regressive or because money should be left with individuals who need.

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It and know better how to use it. I think this is just wrong.

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We all wish state law allowed us directly to make our local income tax.

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More progressive, but it does not.

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Here's the critical point whether this tax.

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Is effectively progressive or regressive depends.

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On how we use it- and that is entirely up to us- I am confident we all are.

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Committed to investing the revenues to the benefit of those.

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Who need most our support? The more general anti-tax view.

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Sadly, has become more familiar in recent decades.

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But I believe all of us here participate in government because we believe it.

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Has an important role to play in building a better community to.

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Address serious challenges to advance more justice and opportunity and.

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Well-Being for all and that it takes taxes to do it. Finally, I'll note that.

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Most of the tracks proceeds will come from households earning.

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A hundred thousand dollars and above and also that.

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Even after the proposed tax increase, all our residents will enjoy among the.

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Very lowest income tax rates of any residents in our 21.

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County region now let me just return briefly to the.

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Reasons for the tax if we want seriously to recover forward.

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We have to have resources to do so with the right resources and let me be.

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Clear we will discuss and develop all the details together, council and.

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Administration, but with those resources we can help.

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Underemployed people get back to work, we can.

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Achieve a lower carbon future and lower cost of living for many many.

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Of us with more energy, efficient buildings and better transit bike and pedestrian options, we can.

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Help local artists and their institutions.

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And protect local food production, we can strengthen our crucial and very.

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Stressed safety net and create more affordable housing and food security and.

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Other essentials for those among us who are struggling mightily, we.

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Can together have these options to consider.

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Without such resources, we will not be able to invest.

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In these or other ways, and indeed likely will struggle just to maintain.

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Basic services like public safety, infrastructure.

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Sanitation maintenance in coming years, I'll close with this.

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Respectfully, the choice tonight, while perhaps not.

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Easy is rather simple, stark even.

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Four years ago, this body supported a 0.25 income tax increase.

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To invest in public safety, it was the right thing to do.

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I supported it then, and I support it today,.

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Today, four years later, the question is: will we make a similar investment in our.

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Community to respond to this terrible pandemic and.

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Economic recession to lift up the poor and low income among us and preserve our.

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Community to respond to racial injustice.

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And to address the climate emergency we face.

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We live in times today with the greatest economic inequality in.

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A century in a limited resources scenario that.

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Gulf will only widen, we have a choice.

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Whether to address these unconscionable terms, we live in.

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Times today with enormous racial challenges that persist and can.

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Poison, our future, even still, we have a choice: whether to make the.

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Kinds of investments that will create greater equity for.

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People of color and we live in times today,.

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When the existential threat of climate change.

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Looms on the west coast in the gulf and in our own community. We.

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Face life-threatening heat, severe storms.

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And other terrible burdens to bear often unjustly born.

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By those with the least means to respond, we have a choice: whether to dedicate new.

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Resources to mitigate and prepare for this global emergency.

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Doing nothing today in some ways could appear easier to some.

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The poor or jobless the disenfranchised or discriminated against the climate.

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Change victims or refugees, our future.

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Generations they do not have the most political.

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Clout their voices are typically not the loudest.

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Though, sometimes we hear them in the streets or in marches.

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Calling for action, those voices are the ones we.

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In government need to listen for and to heed today,.

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We need to invest again in our community, like we did four years ago.

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We need to take care of our whole community.

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Even though the voices in favor may be harder to hear they are there, they call.

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Us to do the right thing, and it is always time to do the right.

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Thing I thank you and please support this investment in all.

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The people of our community now and for generations.

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To come, thank you. Thank you, mr mayor, for that.

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Report we go now to uh council committees are.

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There any council committees to report councilmember scandalory.

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Yes, thank you um in uh just this afternoon, in consultation with.

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Alex crowley in the economic and sustainable development department, as many of you know, the city is.

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Considering a proposal to the economic development administration.

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For a federal grant, with matching dollars from the city of.

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Bloomington that proposal is coming together.

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And mr crowley would like to provide an update for us.

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And talk about next steps with that proposal, so with that in mind.

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I'll be convening a meeting of the sustainable development committee.

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This coming monday evening at 7 pm and the materials for that will be.

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Forthcoming. Thank you. Thank you. Any further reports from.

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Seeing none will go to reports from the public if you are a member of the public.

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Who would like to speak on an item that is not on tonight's agenda? Please raise your hand in zoom.

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Or type into the chat, where I'm not sure who's going to be doing the recognizing.

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Either the clerk or the attorney. But I would point out that while the.

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Mayor spoke about an item on the agenda.

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Tonight I would ask that members of the public refrain from speaking about uh resolution 2013 until it comes up.

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um With that, uh ms bolden, mr lucas, who's uh calling the.

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I think it will be this. I think it will be me this evening.

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Madam clerk, please first up, we have mr jim shelton, mr shelton, if you'd like.

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To unmute yourself, you can go ahead and you'll have five minutes evening.

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Council, jim shelton, with the chamber of commerce, is speaking right now on behalf of casas or court appointed special advocates.

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I want to let the public know that casa's fall. Training will start in just.

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About a month, it'll be on august. Excuse me october.

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19Th through november 11th, it will be via.

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Zoom, it will not be face to face it'll, be on monday, wednesdays and.

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Thursday evenings from 5 30 to 8 30., we very much need people to volunteer to.

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Service casa, as I've told you before and you've.

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Probably heard and not surprised, covet, 19.

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Has put a tremendous stress on families and sadly,.

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This has resulted in an increase in the number of children being abused or.

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Neglected so the number of cases in the juvenile.

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Courts have increased in the demand for casas volunteers to help with the.

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Children and help them get through this process and as fast as as.

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Quickly and safely as they can is dramatically increases.

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We now have somewhere around 50 children waiting for a volunteer.

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So I encourage folks who've been thinking about it to.

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This would be a good time to actually pull the trigger and do it.

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If you haven't thought about it, it's an excellent volunteer opportunity. You get.

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To help children you get to help our community you'll learn a lot. You can go to monroe monrotec.

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Monroecountycasa.Org on the web and click on the volunteer link and.

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There's a frequently asked question page that will address a lot of the things.

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You might want to learn, you can call 333-2272.

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And talk to the staff, you can also download.

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From the webpage the application the process would be, you would apply you.

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Would be interviewed by the casa staff and then you would participate in the.

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Training and then you'd be sworn in by judge galvin.

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And judge harvey and be assigned a case. As I said, there are a number of children.

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Waiting waiting right now for volunteers, so please think about this application.

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Should be in sometime the next few weeks, so you have some time to investigate and to decide if this is a volunteer.

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Situation that will work for you, you're, basically, the eyes and ears of.

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The court you're not in charge of fixing things, that's the judge's job. Your job will be to.

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Assess how things are going with the child or children.

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How the parents are doing and complying with the steps they've been.

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Outlined that they must follow in order to be reunited with their children.

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And to work with the foster parents, whose.

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Homes, the children would be in so think about it.

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And if some of you got friends who you think would be good causes.

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Tell them now's the time that they can get involved.

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Thank you, who is the next speaker.

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Sorry, next up, we have david keppel, mr couple, if you'd like to go ahead and.

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Mute yourself, you'll have five minutes.

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Members of the council, my name is david keppel and.

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I'm spokesperson for bloomington peace, action coalition.

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I will be very brief because I know we have you have very important business to.

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Do tonight, but I would like to point out that ten.

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Days ago there was an extremely important.

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Op-Ed by former congressman lee hamilton on.

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The other existential threat, the danger of nuclear.

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Weapons, as former congressman hamilton said in.

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That the danger is actually just as high as.

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It was in the cold war, and the united states is currently.

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On a very destructive path that uh is tearing up arms control agreements.

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And uh greatly increasing the risk of unintentional nuclear war.

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It's actually local government. Organ uh groups, like the bloomington city council,.

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That can make a tremendous difference on this subject.

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Because you are not under the thumb of the military industrial, complex, you're, independent and you're close to.

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The people, so I hope you will seriously consider.

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A resolution on this issue and we in bpac would love to work with you on a.

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Resolution when you can get a moment to do it, thank you very much.

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Thank you. Will the next speaker come forward.

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Next speaker is greg alexander, mr alexander. If you'd like to go ahead.

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You'll have five minutes thanks. I'm greg alexander.

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um I you know, I'm always coming to you guys and saying we.

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We gotta fund, sidewalks and, um and I'm going to say the counterpoint.

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But not that way, so just a little recap of how we've.

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Funded sidewalks in the past, uh the city council has a sidewalk commission that.

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Has a just a tiny amount of money dedicated to.

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Sidewalk gaps, which is the most important as is places without sidewalk,.

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Because you can complete a network if you fill in those gaps.

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But it has no money and so right away, they rule out any project. That's bigger.

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Than about a half mile, it doesn't even make the list, because it's just they know it's going to be too big for their funding source and so, as a result, the biggest gaps aren't on aren't even on your radar.

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In the sidewalk commission and then beyond that, you know, you've got.

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Dozens of projects that are on your list and only a couple of them, are going to.

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See movement every year and the ones that see the most movement are the smallest ones, because you don't have enough money for even the big projects.

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On your own list, another source of sidewalk funding is.

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This neighborhood assistance program, where they it's a cost sharing between, I think public works administers it.

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And the neighbor that owns the the house in front of the sidewalk.

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And that, on my street we just replaced four different segments of sidewalk.

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We didn't replace the four worst segments of sidewalk. We did get one of.

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The really bad ones, but the other three weren't, that bad.

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The sidewalk had never struck me as bad at three of those sites uh and at the same time, we have two.

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Very very bad sidewalk segments remaining that weren't funded because.

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They couldn't be funded through that program. uh You know. The threat here is we're picking sidewalk projects not by.

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Planning priority, but by ability to pay by the funding source and.

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So now we've got um this recover forward program and I.

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I wish that there was a way for me to have paid more attention or had some influence at the beginning, but it's really been a pretty opaque process and so they've now got a contract out for bid.

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It's going to be let in two weeks I think, and.

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For about a mile of sidewalk replacement, so this is sidewalk that already exists.

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That's in poor condition and I they've now published the list of.

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Sidewalks um that they've decided to spend the money on this year and it's one quarter of the list is on.

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West kirkwood uh kind of across from the the cemetery.

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And that sidewalk it's it's just not that bad! It's pretty normal sidewalk for.

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Bloomington um the rest three quarters of the.

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Sidewalk day in tender place is in neighborhoods. It's on elm street.

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It's on west 6th street and it's on um west 13th street and.

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Those there are some neighborhood roads that serve as connectors that people wind up there's a decently large number of cars.

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A decently large number of pedestrians, you know it's the only road you can cross the bridge on these aren't those roads. These are just regular.

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Neighborhood roads most of the traffic is people um very.

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Local traffic people walking their dogs people coming directly to their house, not not a bunch of through traffic, and I.

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Just I wouldn't put those as a priority at all, and uh you know the irony is.

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They're gonna replace this sidewalk on west kirkwood.

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And then they're still gonna plow snow onto it in the winter and they're not gonna, maintain vegetation. I just just before this meeting. I walked all.

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The whole mile of sidewalks they planned her place and about a third of it, is just it's as good as any other sidewalk in town most the.

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Sidewalk in town is pretty crappy to be honest, um but the the number one problem is unevenness from from.

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Street trees and 21 times I wrote down vegetation blocking the sidewalk.

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They don't have any plan to start maintaining the sidewalk to keep the vegetation off it, but that is if you actually do walk around the most single frustrating thing. The thing that always forces you.

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Into the street you know, west 13th street is right by my house. I walk there.

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Every day, the thing that forces me to walk in the street every single time.

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I walk on west 13th street is vegetation and they're simply not doing anything.

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About that, I would put maintenance for vegetation and snow well before I'd put replacement of repair, and I put missing.

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Gaps before either of those and we're just not doing that and I feel like we need to have enough.

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Money at this that planning can make these decisions, but I feel like.

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Public works simply wanted to look like they were spending money on sidewalks.

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And didn't actually care whether we got a single bang for that buck or not.

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And that's really frustrating I don't want sidewalks to become like some sort of political football. I want public works to actually work hand in hand with the planning department and actually prioritize the pedestrian experience and there's no evidence of.

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This here and I don't know how much it's going to cost, I think it'll be about half a million dollars. I just feel like that money is going to be thrown away. We we owe it to the pedestrians, this town to.

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Do a little better than that to actually have a plan before we spend money not to just allocate money just to so that we look.

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Good for allocating money to a good cause.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you further public speakers for public comment for items not on the.

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Agenda please type into the chat or raise your.

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Hand and zoom going once.

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And that's it for public comment on amazon on the agenda will be going.

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Out to appointments to boards and commissions: do we have any such.

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Seeing none we will go to legislation for second reading and resolutions.

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Mr president, I move that ordinance 2015 be introduced and read by the clerk by.

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Title and synopsis only thinking uh motion has been.

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Moved and seconded will the clerk. Please call the role on the motion to introduce.

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Yes, council, member scandalory.

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Yes, rosenberger, yes, sims.

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Yes, poland, yes smith. Yes,.

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Clarity, yes, smith,.

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You're, muted, mr smith, so sorry, yes, thank you. Sandberg.

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Yes and rolla: yes,.

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uh That motion passes will the clerk please read by title and synopsis.

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Ordinance 2015 to re-zone a 19.73 acre property from employment to.

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Residential estate regarding 2300 west tap road uncle.

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Duncan campbell sorry, mr campbell's petitioner.

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The synopsis is as follows: ordinance 2015.

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Rezones 19.73 acres from employment to residential estate.

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Thank you, mr president, I move that ordinance 2015 be adopted.

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Second, all right: uh who is here from planning transportation,.

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To present this evening,.

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That would be me ryan roblin, mr robling. Please go ahead and make your.

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We'll then hear from the petitioner followed by a report from the land use.

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Committee but we'll start with the presentation from mr robling.

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Okay, can everybody see my screen? Sorry, I can never tell.

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uh You're not sharing it yet. Okay,.

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Please go ahead all right. Thank you.

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All right, this petition is for the property located at.

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23 west tap road. The property is currently zoned in employment.

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The property is currently developed with a single family dwelling, the.

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Comprehensive plan has designated the property as employment center. The surrounding uses include vacant.

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Parcels to the north, south and west and.

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Clear creek trail to the east, the property to the south is a vacant quarry.

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And is owned by the petitioner that property is also.

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Outside the city's jurisdictional bounds, uh just as a petition overview, the.

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Petitioner is proposing to re-zone the property from its current zoning.

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Residence from employment to residential estate.

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The em district does not allow for the construction or expansion of.

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Single-Family dwellings, the property, uh the petitioner is reason.

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Requesting to re-zone the property in order to expand.

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The currently existing structure, just as a history of the site, the site.

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Includes a historic house which was constructed in the 1830s, the.

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Property is within the borland house and first quarry state.

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Local or listed historic district, the property was annexed by the city of.

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Bloomington in zoned quarry the property had been identified by its.

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Adjoining use, while the property was within the areas intended for annexation,.

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This caused the property to be zoned quarry the.

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Newly adopted udo and conversion map changed the.

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Zoning from quarry to employment.

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The comprehensive plan has dedicated designated this portion of tap road as.

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Employment center, the intent of the employment center.

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Designation was to provide location for a variety of commercial employment and.

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Utility uses the comprehensive plan uses a broad.

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Brush approach to land use mapping rather than a parcel level analysis. This.

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Allows for flexibility while evaluating partial level considerations.

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The comprehensive plan offers points of guidance.

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And goals that are in line with his development approval.

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Goal 2.2 sets a goal of preserving and assets of historic, historical and.

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Architectural significance policy 523 in historic, neighborhoods and.

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Districts preserve and enhance authentic design.

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Characteristics such as building form by encouraging new or remodeled.

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Structures to be historically compatible with.

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Neighborhood in adjacent structures, historic preservation,.

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To enhance our sense of community to preserve the stories of older cultures,.

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Found in the landmarks and landscapes we visit and to protect the memories of people places and events honored in our local.

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Monuments and markers the comprehensive plan's purpose is to.

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Ensure that development decisions are balanced with protections for in.

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Conservation for natural and historic resources.

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The comprehensive plan furthers this purpose with vision, statement principle.

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9, which discusses the importance and desire of to enhance our natural assets and.

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Protect historic resources, vision statement principle: 12 is focused.

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On virtues of historic preservation and rehabilitation of historic structures,.

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Helping to ensure their continued use goal 3.4 sets a goal to increase the.

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Area of native plants within the city, these native plants will help improve.

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Soil, air and water quality and increase the capacity of local.

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Wildlife, the comprehensive plan also gives guidance to for allowing residents to age in place, including the ability to.

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Meet basic needs and ensure self-sufficiency.

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Goal 1.2 seeks to support strategies that sustain.

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And enhance the health and safety of residents.

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Policy 4.4.5 encourages special design to promote housing, which is built for a.

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Range of ages, policy 5.3.2 specifically seeks to enable seniors to remain in their.

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Home, while also allowing them to age in place.

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uh Just to give an overview of what is being proposed to be completed after.

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These rezoning uh here's an image of the site plan. You can see the existing primary structure, the three accessory structures and the entrance along tap road.

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The uh the addition can be seen on the southern portion of the site, along with.

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The proposed setbacks you can see that it is the.

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Proposed edition is set back 25 feet from the rear and um roughly 100.

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Or 215 from this side, uh here's a drawing of the proposed.

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Edition showing, in addition, uh the additional first floor, living.

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Space and restroom.

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Here's the southern elevation of the proposed edition.

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There are currently two addition or issues that will arise.

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From the proposed rezoning, the first is a dimensional standard.

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Based on the proposed addition to the current structure, the.

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Proposed edition will encroach 35 feet into the rear, building setback and will.

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Require variance in order to be constructed the property to the south is owned by the petitioner.

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And again is outside the city's jurisdictional boundaries.

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The second issue that will arise is the limitation on accessory structures in.

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The re district, the re district, allows for accessory.

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Structures with a maximum cumulative footprint of 50 percent of.

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The square footage of the primary structure- the site, currently features three existing accessory structures with a.

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Cumulative footprint of roughly 3 300 square feet.

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Which is roughly 2 300 square feet over the maximum allowable for the property.

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Variants would also be required to legitimize the existing accessory.

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Structures on site, so the plant commission, who voted 9-0 to.

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Send this petition to the common council with a favorable recommendation.

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And the department promote rezoning the property which.

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Has both unique historical and environmental, environmental.

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Environmental characteristics that should be preserved.

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The comprehensive plan also gives guidance to help assist residents to age.

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In place when the property was annexed by the.

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City, it carried forward zoning from monroe county.

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However, the zoning was historic remnant of the former quarry property to the.

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South because they have often been under one, a single ownership, the former quarry district was replaced.

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By the employment district, with the adoption of the conversion map,.

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The eem district does not is not the appropriate use or the district for a large residential property.

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And does not allow for the expansion of the existing historical use.

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While the comprehensive plan does identify this area as employment center.

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This is a result of using existing zoning as guidance for the.

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And not a desire to make uh granular decisions.

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About individual properties and then to instead to focus on broad strokes.

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For large areas of the city parcel level, changes were not part of the.

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Conversion map process, but the possibility that some would need to be.

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Addressed was anticipated for the zoning that process.

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The department believes that aligning the zoning with a use.

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That will protect the historic structure and surrounding properties.

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Is in line with the intents of the comprehensive plan.

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The re-zone to single-family district would also require future uses on.

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Surrounding properties to be set back further than they would.

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Otherwise be required if this property were to remain zoned, em.

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Further, protecting the historic and environmentally sensitive property.

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Allowing the rezone will allowing the rezone will allow the.

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Desired addition, improving the chance of long-term.

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Stewardship and care of the site, while allowing the long-time owners to remain in their home. uh The the following recommendation was.

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Made by plan commission uh case zo 1620.

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The recommendation had the following conditions, which would.

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Address issues that would exist on the site.

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After the zoning map amendment, uh the first was.

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The proposed addition to the structure must receive a variance from the board.

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Of zoning appeals in order to encroach into the rear building setback.

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The second was, the property must receive a variance from the board of zoning.

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Appeals in order to legitimize the existing accessory structures on the.

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Property and I can answer any questions.

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Thank you, mr robling. uh We will now hear from the petitioner.

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If mr campbell would like to speak hello, sir.

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Hello, ms piaggia good, to see you both good evening.

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um Well, we gave you a petitioner's statement, which is.

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I think our our version of what ryan has just.

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Elaborated so I don't really have anything.

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To add to that um but happy to answer questions if anyone has any.

A

Okay, well uh we'll take questions in a minute, but first we'll hear.

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The uh report from the land use committee.

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uh If the chair would like to present it well there's not much. To present, I mean.

D

I think we all supported the proposal for the reasons.

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That mr roblin described so I don't really feel the need to take.

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Up any additional time, okay! Well with that, we will now open the.

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Floor to questions on this ordinance are there any.

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Questions for staff, the petitioner or the committee.

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Going once going twice all right: well, then, we'll go to the.

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Public for comment: is there any member the public like to.

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Comment on ordinance, 2015. Yes, there is um madam clerk.

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Yes, mr alexander has his hand raised mr alexander.

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If you would like to speak, you should be unmuted.

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Thanks, um I'm greg alexander, I and I guess I just.

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Don't care one way or the other about this, this petition, to be honest, um but.

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It sure it sure uh makes an interesting picture.

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um If you have uh one neighbor who owns a.

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Lot of land, they can pretty much write their own zoning code and if you have about five neighbors together and say not in my backyard, then.

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Generally, they prevail uh and but on the other hand, you can.

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Have uh a duplex or a quadplex, you know.

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Actually, housing, a number of people and it's in the same kind of awkward.

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Situation where it's it's grandfathered in, but it doesn't really fit. You know this, this parcel. It's um the reason the outbuildings don't.

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Conform, I assume is that they used to serve basically a a commercial or quasi commercial purpose and then the residence.

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Obviously is a residential purpose, and so this puts it in kind of a zoning gray.

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Area well, these duplexes are are in that same problem. They don't.

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Conform to the current zoning code because they.

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Weren't really anticipated as part of that process, or they were condemned as.

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Part of that process- and so you know the people that are in.

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There they don't get any representation at all. They can't write their own zoning code if the landlord has to do a substantial.

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Repair renovation of the house generally, those people are just going to.

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Be kicked out and he's going to have to convert it back to single family, and that's just it's crap that we we have a lot of housing in this town.

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That that is grandfathered in that can't be maintained. That can't be.

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Updated or or improved because of this process, but this this.

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Guy with uh who owns a significant amount of land, he can. He can update his.

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All he wants we'll bend over backwards, we'll re-zone it we'll give him.

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Variances it just it, it looks bad because we we do.

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Have about half of our population as renters, and I feel like they deserve a little better representation thanks for your time,.

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Thank you. As for further public comment on ordnance 2015.

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Please raise your hand and zoom or type into the chat and the clerk will.

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Recognize you first call second call.

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Last call for public comment on ordnance 2015.

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Cnn will go back to the council for further questions or for debate. Is there.

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Any final comment on ordinance, 2015, council member.

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Piedmont- smith, yeah. I just want to address the one.

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Public comment that we did have um just now. I think.

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It's unfortunate when members of the public who feel passionate about.

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Something that's really important for the greater community.

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um Then it just seems to me like it's a misguided comment at this point.

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Because I don't, it seems to me that he did not.

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Actually read the proposal: this is an unusual.

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Property, it's historic. It is environmentally sensitive and has.

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A lot of floodplain and tree coverage that we don't want to disturb it has a very a pretty narrow frontage.

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On uh tap road so that there's not really room.

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To put additional, uh to subdivide and put more.

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Density um and it's uh it's been stewarded for.

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Almost 40 years by uh the owners um as part of our uh our heritage.

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uh Of quarrying and um homesteading in in indiana, so I just.

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I need to push back a little bit on uh on the assertion that we're just.

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Rewarding some wealthy property owner with uh spot rezone.

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The new zoning map has not been issued, yet we just had.

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We had a zoning map that just adopted the new names of some districts, but we.

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Have not done the work of I mean the work is still in progress to.

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Comprehensively look at all the parcels and rezone them.

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And I think would that work continue. We would not uh zone this as employment.

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And we would recognize the special features of this particular.

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Parcel so anyway, I just want to reiterate my.

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Support for this particular rezone because of.

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The unique circumstances and stress that this is not.

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uh You know because they're wealthy landowners.

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Immediately when I saw the petition, the first thing I thought was.

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Residential estate, I hate that zoning I almost wanted to get rid of it in the.

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Udo because it's so it's it's not dense at all, but I think.

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When it's used to protect environmental features,.

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That's basically the only the only legitimate use and that's what's in.

D

On the table here, thank you. Thank you further questions or comment. I see.

A

Councilwoman sandberg and then councilmember sims.

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A comment- and this is just to say that the plan commission.

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Obviously has also looked at this and was in.

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Complete approval of it as it stands, and, and I want to thank council member.

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Piedmont smith for reminding the public that, with regard to.

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The mapping that's going to be um starting fairly soon here in the.

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Month of october, uh public comment with regard to what's.

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Going to be happening to underpin our our recent work on the.

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Udo with the various mapping to define the various zones, so that's that's a process. That's still ahead of us. There is still ample opportunity for the public to weigh.

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In um before it comes back to the planning commission and this body.

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uh Sometime next year, so uh thank you again.

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For uh your forbearance with um planned commission.

O

And uh the work that we're doing in the interim uh with some of these.

O

These these issues, thank you. Thank you, councilmember sims. uh Thank you.

J

Just to comment actually, um I years ago, when I said on the plan commission, I do.

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Remember that mr campbell gave me a tour.

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Throughout the property um and at the time we were looking at.

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Slope, if I'm not mistaking um and some stream ways.

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And some vegetation um that needed to be saved and preserved.

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And maintained pardon me, um so I just want.

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To make that comment, but what I really wanted to say is during.

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The land use committee report by chair piedmont.

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Smith and correct me, if I missed this, but the land use committee recommended.

J

It being sent to the city council with a four to zero.

J

Affirmative recommendation, I don't think I don't recall that that was mentioned.

J

So that was my only comment. Thank you. Thank you. Any further questions or.

A

Comment, uh I have a question actually. Oh.

A

Constantly flaherty go ahead. Sure I'll just uh briefly address mr.

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Alexander's comment as well, and we discussed this a bit at land use.

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Committee, how um residential estate is.

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uh Meant to be used in very narrow circumstances, there's like eight or ten.

P

Lots in the whole city, uh most of them are covered in trees or.

P

um Adjacent to a nature, preserve or something like that, the clear creek path.

P

In this case- um and I think there are legitimate uses for those narrow circumstances, but mr alexander did hit on an important.

P

Point, uh which is that legal non-conforming uses of.

P

In our neighborhoods we have a lot of things like this, where it's really difficult for um I'm thinking of a constituent, I had a.

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Conversation with maybe a year ago um before I was a representative from.

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Brian park, who has, I think, legal non-conforming, I think I'm.

P

Using the right term of art here, um apartment in in her basement uh that.

P

She rents out to another family, so there's two families, one above one below.

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uh They each have kids, uh the kids get to play together. They trade child care.

P

It's just a really ideal situation um and uh they they're growing as a.

P

Family and have a need to sort of expand slightly to address that, but any change.

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At all to their current configuration will.

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Not be allowed because it would make them an illegal use, so instead they're going to have to have this family move out.

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Of the basement, who they're good friends with and find another place, they will.

P

All be paying more money um and and lose a really good situation.

P

So you know it's just one example of many where we do have a problem with this issue that mr alexander identified.

P

And it's something I think we need to continue to think about and work on in the in the planning and zoning context. So I just wanted to say that thanks ballen, we can't hear you.

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My bad, I'm sorry about that. I wanted to take a chance to.

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Ask a question of mr robling, um mr robin: does the em zoning type allow.

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For any kind of housing it does not no housing, no dwellings at.

L

All so I mean you would say that uh this is.

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Technically, an up zoning from a housing perspective, yes from a housing.

L

Perspective absolutely um so I mean.

A

Without this change, uh the housing continues to be.

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Non-Conforming and no other housing will be allowed to be built on an employment.

A

Property, anyway, is that correct? Yes, thank you. Are there any further comments.

A

On ordnance, 2015.

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uh Seeing seeing none, we will go to a vote. Will the clerk please call the roll.

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On ordnance, 2015.

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Yeah we need yeah there, you go councilmember rosenberger.

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Sims, yes, volun, yes, piedmont! Smith! Yes,.

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Clarity, yes, smith. Yes, sandberg.

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Yes, rollo, yes and scandalory. Yes,.

A

That is 9-0, uh mr campbell, ms biaggia use your new power for good. Thank you.

A

Very much thank you. uh We will go now to ordinance.

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2016. president, I move that ordinance 2016.

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Be introduced and read by the clerk by title and synopsis only.

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Second, we have a motion in a second uh will. The clerk, please call the role.

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On the motion to introduce council member sims.

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Yes, piedmont, smith; yes, clarity! Yes,.

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Smith, yes, sandberg, yes, rollo! Yes,.

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Scandalory, yes, rosenbacher yeah. Thank you.

A

That's 9-0 will the clerk please read by title and synopsis.

B

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Sorry ordinance 2016 to establish the sustainable development non-reverting.

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Fund and to amend title ii of the bloomington municipal code.

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Entitled administration and personnel adding.

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Chapter 2.35 entitled sustainable development and.

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Sustainable development fund advisory commission.

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Synopsis is as follows: this ordinance is authored by councilmember flaherty.

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And creates a dedicated sustainable development fund to receive all monies.

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Received by the city of bloomington from an edit rate that.

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Has been that have been designated for economic development purposes,.

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The ordinance also amends title ii of the bloomington municipal code.

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Administration and personnel to create a new seven-member, sustainable development.

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Fund advisory commission, this commission would, among other duties.

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Prioritize projects to be funded with edit revenue, making.

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Funding recommendations and report on the use of the fund.

A

D

Mr president, I move that ordinance 2016 be adopted.

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Second, we have uh motion on the table. uh I believe mr.

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Flaherty is the sponsor counselor flaherty. Would you like to present uh sure yeah I'll try to keep this relatively.

P

Brief, um so this was developed and brought in anticipation of the.

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Resolution we'll be considering later this evening.

P

Regarding a possible economic development, income tax.

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That may be passed by the local income tax council.

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The fund, as uh indicated in the synopsis, I'm sorry the ordinance as indicated in.

P

The synopsis would do two things uh one. It would create a.

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Non-Reverting fund called the sustainable development fund to receive revenues from the city that the city of bloomington may receive.

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As part of any edit that the monroe county tax council would.

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Pass and then second, it would add chapter.

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2.35 to the bloomington municipal code, establishing a sustainable development.

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Fund advisory commission, as the name suggests that commission.

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Itself is advisory in nature. Both the mayor and city council would.

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Retain their authorities regarding fund appropriations.

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The commission is would be made up of seven people, which would include the.

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Mayor and his or her sorry mayor or his or her.

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Designee uh three council members, who would be appointed annually by the council president as we appoint, um likely appoint most of our committee and commission.

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um Appointments and then three members of the public.

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Serving two-year terms, who would be appointed by agreement.

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Among the mayor and the three council member commissioners.

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The commission would be tasked with making recommendations to the mayor and.

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City council, regarding appropriations from the sustainable development fund.

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And also tasked with evaluating and reporting on the effectiveness and impacts of any expenditures from the fund.

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Particularly in light of city goals and in collaboration with city staff,.

P

So this this was, or this ordinance was developed.

P

In large part, in response to feedback, I've heard from residents uh throughout.

P

The year, starting in the spring, when we were considering um uh this proposal in some in some capacity.

P

And more recently as well, uh it goes to it aims to better define.

P

The scope of what edit funds would be used for and.

P

How those decisions would be made um in particular, it aims to center our.

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Adopted city plans, which have been already been developed and adopted through extensive public processes as the guiding documents for fund expenditures.

P

These plans, as you all know, include the comprehensive transportation and.

P

Sustainability action plans and also the forthcoming climate.

P

Action plan, which is anticipated later this year,.

P

So the ordinance finally specifies some processes and mechanisms related to.

P

Reporting an evaluation of fund expenditures and.

P

I'll also note at this point that there are two relatively minor clarifying.

P

Amendments uh that I will plan to bring as well, so I'm happy to take questions um and discuss that first.

P

And maybe early in that process, we want to bring those those two minor amendments as well, so I'll stop there thanks.

A

Okay, um would the administration like to respond to the proposal.

E

Oh there we go, I appreciate it, um I would just say we strongly welcome the.

E

Idea of working together to identify the best ways to get input on capital.

E

Plan and and others uh I think there are a lot of.

E

Good ideas, um I personally believe it would make.

E

Sense to um table this until the decision on the.

E

Tax is made because the tax is gonna. If there is no tax, there's no need. If.

E

There is a tax, then there is a need to move forward and debate that, but my.

E

My main focus, as I've indicated clearly, is the importance of generating revenue.

E

To deal with with many items moving forward, certainly including.

E

Climate change, economic justice, racial justice, recovery from the recession, etc.

E

But I personally would suggest the first step is to.

E

Is to move forward with um the vote on the tax, but.

E

We welcome the engagement and inclusion of serious work together to develop the.

E

Capital plan that's appropriate for an edu-lit.

E

Economic development, local income tax thanks. Thank you, mr mayor with that.

A

We'll open the floor for questions on ordnance 2016.

A

Mr president, mr ello is the appropriate motion. If, if we were.

Q

To proceed to table is the tabling or postponing.

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Mr lucas but it'll be to postpone to after uh resolution 2013.

A

Unless you have something different in mind,.

Q

Well, um it seems that the parliamentarian could advise us on this.

A

But uh what is your intent, mr ello? Well, we.

Q

Would need to, we would need to postpone until.

Q

Vote on the on the lit by by the city and the county were were.

Q

Manifest not just whether the resolution were to.

Q

Pass this evening right, we require.

Q

A certain number of votes- those might not be attained this evening, but could.

Q

Be later, am I correct.

A

um I I do think the number of votes that are cast tonight in favor of orton's.

A

Resolution 2013 will uh give us an indication of uh what may.

A

Be necessary, uh but I would uh simply.

A

uh Ask you to direct your question to counselor flaherty.

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Who is the maker of the the ordinance? Well? Yes, I I wanted the to know that the.

Q

Proper procedure, but I do have a question: could I proceed.

A

While, while uh we're determining what appropriate procedure is, I would.

A

Encourage you to ask that question yes. Well, I I would ask the question.

Q

Councilmember flaherty, since there is no certainty that the liberal.

Q

Will receive adequate support this evening shouldn't we wait it until.

Q

There's an indication that that it does receive adequate support.

Q

Before creating a body to administrate, it.

Q

When it may not occur, um I disagree. I guess with with that. You.

P

Know I see the argument certainly, but I think I disagree um because to me this um ordinance is substantive.

P

And affects uh how I think about the local income tax, in particular,.

P

There is no requirement at all that any advisory commission be made.

P

Or any particular process be specified uh if, after you know, a possible.

P

Economic development income tax is passed.

P

Of course, there are some basic statutory requirements regarding.

P

um You know the mayor needing to bring an appropriation ordinance to us and us.

P

uh Having final say, or an ordinance, uh as well as some limited power in that.

P

Capacity to um you know, cut uh items.

P

With from an appropriation ordinance, um but again, this is, is responsive, largely.

P

To extensive feedback throughout the year.

P

uh From members of the public who who have.

P

Perhaps supported this idea and principle, but have really.

Q

Let me rephrase the question: why not, why not postpone it? Well, that's.

P

What I'm answering? uh Because I think it's material to our.

P

Discussion and decision about the lit resolution- uh and I think uh you know the direction it heads- uh is material to.

P

At least my and perhaps other council members views on on what we may or may not support.

Q

What is sacrificed and postponing.

P

Not knowing the future direction of the processes, transparency, accountability,.

P

Reporting mechanisms all the rest of of what happens with any sort of uh fund.

P

From it from an edit um from edit revenues, uh we there's an.

P

Uncertainty there that I would like to clarify prior to to voting uh on on attacks, you could say the same thing about a capital.

P

Improvement plan or anything else. Why know anything at all before voting on a.

P

Tax, I think I think this, among other things is, is an important thing to to clarify and know something about.

P

Both for the public and for council members prior to.

P

um Voting on on the tax itself, so that's I guess that's my view.

Q

I'm still not sure about the timing, but thank you, adam parliamentarian. Do you.

A

Have uh or mr lucas uh do you have any.

A

Insight into the question by mr rallo about.

A

um The proper motion to postpone yes, he can move to a postponed to a.

D

Specific time you can't just say I postpone I move to postpone, he would have to say.

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Postponed to the next regular session or to.

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After consideration of resolution, 20 dash whatever.

A

I think that's probably uh mr ella's best course of action.

A

um Let's take some more questions: councilmember sims.

A

Thank you, um council, member flaherty, um with regards to the edit funds and.

J

What will go or is proposed to go into.

J

Ordinance 2016, if it's passed, um is approximately the lit or.

J

Approximately four million dollars so will ordinance 2016 only affect those.

J

Funds and not the rest of the city funds as.

J

Which this will become part of in the future, so are those separate, I guess, is what I'm asking.

P

Yes, this advisor commission would only and again it's only advisory in nature,.

P

But it would only be related to uh the non-reverting sustainable.

P

Development fund, which would be established via this ordinance to.

P

Receive any revenues from an economic development income tax it would not affect other city funds, so.

J

If some of those funds, edit funds, were combined somehow for future.

J

Investments would this ordinance if it passed, still apply.

P

I'm not quite, can you clarify what you mean by um edit funds being combined.

P

um This for me, and the lit tax will go into the general fund.

J

They're, I'm not so sure the investments we're talking about will be separate.

J

Does that make sense, I'm still not quite sure I follow. I.

P

I think um the the revenues from any economy we have no.

P

Edit right now um and if we have received right and if.

P

We have one the the revenues from that would go into a particular fund that would be established by this ordinance. So.

P

What whether or not that's considered part of the general fund.

P

As some sort of I'm not, I guess I'm not sure on that. I think it would be.

P

Clear and isolated in this fund am, I I'm not sure.

P

Let me try again um ordinance 2016 would not.

J

Have any effect on other non-edit funds, correct, okay um and one other thing. If I.

J

May um mr chair um on one of the whereases.

J

um I don't know about three quarters of the.

J

Way down on the first page- and it says, climate change has a disproportionate.

J

Impact on the health and financial well-being of low-income.

J

Communities and communities of color- and I am aware more.

J

Nationally, or or broader, in particular, with communities with larger.

J

Communities of color um and in many cases.

J

Larger lower income communities- so I'm aware of that, but can you ex.

J

Share with us, your thought process and how.

J

This ordinance will affect low-income communities and communities.

J

Of color um understanding that bloomington is.

J

Different than most of the analysis that are bred from.

J

A sheer number standpoint sure I think.

P

Nationally and statewide, certainly that is, that is a true statement and there is.

P

Abundant research to uh to show that- and this is because of.

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Classism and racism in that imbues, almost all of our policies and our.

P

History in housing, policy and land use policy.

P

And transportation policy and education, health care, uh just just the way covid has has impacted. Generally speaking,.

P

Communities of color, worse than than white americans, that is a reflection of.

P

A variety of things, including uh racial disparities and and racist.

P

Policies in the in the health care field and and related related, uh I guess again, land use, housing, etc that lead to.

P

uh Disparities uh by race and by income uh in in a variety of of areas, um so.

P

Regarding locally, uh I know we have, you know, we'd have to.

P

I don't have the data and I'm not sure anyone has analyzed this effectively.

P

Enough to be able to spell out um uh in detail.

P

What you know when we're looking at climate impacts, uh high heat.

P

uh You know that is going to burden uh lower income folks, disproportionately.

P

uh Flood plains um and and people's vulnerability to where.

P

They are in relation to floodplains, other other impacts.

P

Quantifying those by racial group and by income levels, I suppose, would be a.

P

Fairly complex, you know, data analysis uh that I have not conducted, I'm not sure anyone has.

P

Locally, so so I think that is a generally true statement. I certainly take your point that bloomington is not necessarily reflective in every way of the.

P

um You know broader uh national state of affairs in in the us.

P

Though I do think as a general principle guiding climate action, it is important.

P

To acknowledge and recognize uh that that, as a general matter, that.

P

That is true and that we need to be mindful um that.

P

In addressing climate action and climate adaptation measures, uh we are, we are ensuring that we are.

P

Looking at racial and socioeconomic injustices as related to those, so that's.

P

My intent again, I certainly take your point that that.

P

It is not a detailed database statement for bloomington's particular situation.

A

Thank you. Thank you. Further questions. Councilmembers can blurry.

F

Thank you. um I appreciate council member sims questions and I want to just put a.

F

Finer point on it from my own head. So let's assume that the lit is passed.

F

Tonight um and that this ordinance is passed, this.

F

Would apply to the monies raised through the lit we passed tonight.

F

Correct, yes, if it's passed tonight or some other.

F

Time by the monroe county council right, assuming that all gets.

F

Passed, would it also apply if we decided to.

F

Oppose a lid two years from now or three years from now, would those monies fall under the authority of this ordinance.

P

I think the answer is yes, um because this doesn't specify.

P

A certain percentage of edit uh revenues, uh though, though I'll say that wasn't my.

P

Intent in in drafting it and, I think um so, sort of by default the.

P

Answer is yes, but I would say, let's say two or three years from now.

P

um The monroe county tax council is considering.

P

uh Let's pretend this passes uh the resolution we're considering tonight and.

P

The uh proposal before the tax council and in two years time, it's decided that.

P

Another 0.15 percent is desired for transit.

P

Specifically dedicated, um I think, if that's the case, you know some situation like that and and there was support for it among.

P

Among this body, uh we would amend this ordinance.

P

And probably craft a new ordinance that would specify and direct the.

P

Revenues um from any additional increment and what they would go to, if that was the intent of of the city council at that time, got it.

F

Thank you and one element of this. um This proposed ordinance that I.

F

Appreciated was your mention of um using this proposed group to actually.

F

Look at impact and look at whether or not we've.

F

Moved the needle whether or not we've made a difference, and I realize none of none of the that methodology can be decided till. We know.

F

What such attacks would be used for, but could you just talk more about your.

F

Thinking on that and how you envision, that function could work in a group like.

F

This yeah, I think I think it will be um in.

P

Some in some aspects difficult, I think, the climate action plan that we are developing will probably help uh guide us in that in that direction.

P

I think there's a lot of metrics. You could look at for.

P

Measuring effectiveness, you could, it probably is going to vary by.

P

The type of expenditures to use some examples from.

P

uh You know the recover forward initiatives looking at something like.

P

Energy efficiency and weatherization assistance to lower income, households.

P

uh Then you could look at um number of people, helped energy savings.

P

Emissions reductions and yeah annual annual savings for.

P

Those households, um you know with transit, you could talk about.

P

Increased ridership, potentially or additional miles of service.

P

Speed of service, different metrics by project think or additional lane miles.

P

Of protective bike lanes, for instance, or other things, I think.

P

By project things will vary, uh the the metrics we have.

P

To the extent that we could come up with.

P

You know common metrics across projects, uh whether it's.

P

um You know potential savings for households or.

P

uh You know, emissions reductions or um even.

P

You know uh implementation of of of projects that we have that are staff.

P

Implementation of projects per timelines established in our adopted plans.

P

uh Those sort of common metrics across projects or programs would be really.

P

Useful, um uh I think it will be largely up.

P

That is the type of thing that I think the commission and city staff working in.

P

Collaboration with one another would would need to develop in time.

P

uh But I think it's important to identify that as the target that we have.

P

A methodology and a a to the extent possible.

P

Quantitative approach to uh measuring the impact uh so that we.

P

Know that we are, you know, doing our level best to choose.

P

The most impactful things to invest in based on based on.

P

Our city goals, that's helpful, thank you and I'm.

F

Probably at time so thank you, councilmemberallo.

Q

uh Thank you before we continue uh with questions and.

Q

Public comments and and and council comment.

Q

uh It seems to me, since this ordinance, since the resolution that.

Q

We're going to hear is material to the need for this commission. I would.

Q

Offer a motion to postpone the ordinance until.

Q

After we hear the resolution this evening, so just postpone until.

Q

Later in the evening, is there a second to the motion.

A

Going once going twice, the motion does not have a second, so we.

A

Will continue with questions? Are there questions from members.

A

Further questions, if not councilmember smith,.

R

Thank you, uh council, member flaherty. uh Will you say what.

R

What do you first of all is that? um How does that work with.

R

Mr underwood, in in the city, how would that work with uh it's not.

R

Encumbering the funds, but it's setting them aside or designating them for uh the purview of your that committee.

R

Or or commission whatever you want to call it.

R

Is that permissible, um or is that what we are.

R

uh Doing right now we're making it permissible under the.

R

The way that uh the city would be able to move money around and spend money.

P

um So the administration has already mentioned in its materials, supporting.

P

The resolution 2013 that the intent is to create a dedicated fund uh to receive all revenues from any edit.

P

uh That's that's already been um established, I guess and and is yes permissible and totally fine.

P

To my understanding um I again, the commission's role is.

P

Advisory in nature, so they have both the mayor and the city.

P

Council continue to retain their authority as it relates to.

P

Any appropriations uh profound subject to state statute.

P

Requirements on what things can be spent on and subject to our own city.

P

Code, um but so I don't think, there's any any.

P

I think I've answered your question. Is that sufficient? I think so and then.

R

Tell me the idea of how it relates to the capital plan.

P

uh So in the ordinance uh it's it's discussed, I mean and.

P

We've talked about a little bit um just just last week, or maybe it was just in.

P

The right materials um that um the capital improvement plan.

P

Is is having a capital improvement plan, is a requirement of state statute.

P

With regard to economic development, income tax.

P

And that has a particular. It has a handful of particular.

P

Items you have to kind of have a checklist meeting meeting.

P

That statute, the capital improvement plan.

P

Included in our materials supporting resolution 2013 is, I believe, meant to be.

P

Illustrative- and it is not representative of of what the city's.

P

Ultimate capital improvement plan would be as city, priorities, change and and projects or programs that the city.

P

Wishes to fund over time uh may change. um You know with any.

P

Possible edit, I think the capital improvement plan.

P

Would need to be updated most likely over time uh to reflect those uh plans so that it is reflective of what we're spending.

P

Money on um and and helping to guide that and.

P

And uh the ordinance 2016 here just acknowledges that by saying that.

P

For ins, here's here's an example: uh the the capital improvement plan shared by.

P

The mayor, uh that's that's illustrative in nature, uh doesn't include transit, for instance, and I think um the idea.

P

At least from the administration is that that's not.

P

You know part of their current priorities based on.

P

um The percent proposed uh the percent change proposed.

P

But if at some future point uh working with our county colleagues or something.

P

Else we decided that we wanted a portion of uh funds going to support transit. uh The ordinance anticipates that the.

P

Capital improvement plan would be amended or or.

P

uh Changed to reflect the recommendations.

P

Of the um advisory commission, so so that everything would continue to be.

P

In line with the requirements of state statute and that our capital improvement.

P

Plan would be reflective of uh the direction that the advisory.

P

Commission is recommending for expenditures.

R

Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

A

Further questions from members on.

A

Ordinance 2016.

A

Seeing none we will go to the public for comment on.

A

Ordinance 2016., mr clark. uh I think it might be more effective for.

P

Me to introduce the two amendments that I mentioned prior to public comment and.

P

Then we could have the public would be able to comment on the ordinance as amended. Yes, please to you, uh so uh I move that.

P

um Amendment one to ordinance 2016 uh be adopted.

P

I think I need it needs a second second motion in a second, uh mr flaherty. If you.

A

Would present sure, uh and and this is in your packet.

P

Addendum that, I think everybody received um this morning, uh the.

P

The amendment one to ordinance 2016 is intended to.

P

um Just clarify that uh again, the council and the and the mayor.

P

uh Are not bound by the recommendations of.

P

The commission, they retain their authority and, in particular, um addresses the the possibility uh that, um if the advisory commission for one.

P

Reason or another did not provide a recommendation.

P

A timely recommendation, um specifically within 30 days.

P

Of of a request, for instance, from the mayor or common council,.

P

That the mayor could go ahead and move forward with.

P

Any appropriation and the council will be able to vote on it so.

P

While the ordinance itself uh had specified.

P

That uh appropriations will be brought following a recommendation in writing.

P

From the sustainable fund, sustainability development fund advisory commission.

P

This amendment adds a couple lines of text to section 4 and.

P

To section 4 of the ordinance and the.

P

Anticipated bmc 2.35.050.

P

Section b to um again clarify those things.

P

So you have the text. I can read the text of the amendment if that's helpful, but.

P

It's in the packet- and you all have it.

A

Okay with that we'll take, I mean, is there a response from the administration.

A

On amendment, one.

A

They can respond, perhaps at a later moment are there any questions.

A

For mr flaherty from members on amendment, one.

A

Seeing none we go to the public for comment on amendment. One.

A

To ordinance 2016., please do not comment on the whole ordinance yet.

A

Just looking at the amendment proposal, mr flaherty.

A

Madam clerk, do we have any speakers for amendment.

B

Would like to comment on this and you are unmuted.

A

You'll have five minutes. Please limit your comment to amendment one.

A

All right, I raised my hand um for the overall.

S

2016 amendment and I had not read, I see okay, thank you.

A

Okay, I'll go to the next next up. We have daniel bingham.

A

And mr bingham again, please limit your comment to uh to amendment one.

A

You'll have five minutes go ahead, so I didn't.

T

Realize there were going to be amendments tonight, so I'm scrambling to catch up a little bit and try to read them um just faith on councilman of clarity's description of it. I'm left with the.

T

Question of does this amendment kind of undermine.

T

The purpose of the commission to begin with um my understanding of the.

T

Purpose of the commission is that it is supposed to give both the.

T

Council and the public more voice in the spending.

T

Of this tax in no small part, because a large proportion of the public.

T

Was somewhat nonplussed by the mayor's proposal for how this is taxed.

T

And that proposal large proportions of it.

T

Do not go towards addressing climate, they don't cut carbon they're.

T

Kind of all over the map.

T

If this it sounds like this, amendment removes the authority of the commission.

T

And makes it purely advisory versus a commission that.

T

Actually has um well some power some force um to help.

T

Actually dictate what the tax is used for.

T

In that case, are doesn't that kind of beat the whole point of the commission.

T

In the first place, aren't we kind of back to a situation where the mayor can propose and the council can either vote it up or down.

T

Can't amend, in which case the council has very little power.

T

The public has very little power, and the mayor can.

T

Essentially, use this for whatever he wants, which is in my.

T

Attempts to advocate for this tax- that is the primary concern I hear back, is.

T

That you know the public is not interested in.

T

Granting the mayor a blank check, they do not trust him on this issue and.

T

The proposal he has put forward has has done nothing to ameliorate that thank you.

A

Thank you is there further public comment on amendment 1.

A

To ordinance 2016, yes, next up, we have randy paul, mr paul. If you'd like to go.

B

Ahead again, please limit your comments to.

A

Amendment one you'll have five minutes uh on second thoughts. I think I'll wait.

M

Till the uh until later tonight, very good, thank you. Are there any other.

A

Comments on amendment one- um yes, it looks like.

B

Randy paul has raised his hand, mr paul, if you want to go ahead.

A

He literally just spoke. Oh I'm sorry, david keppel.

B

I'm looking at both names, I apologize. Okay again, please limit your comments to.

A

Amendment one uh you'll have five minutes: go ahead.

B

um Mr couple, oh good! Okay! uh Thank you very much. uh Just listening.

H

To mr bingham's comments a moment ago, I would urge us all to take.

H

A deep breath it is natural that there be.

H

This moment of great public anxiety in this country and a.

H

Large lack of trust, but I would hope that here in bloomington we could have.

H

Enough trust that we can work together, so I am a I am.

H

Basically, in support of amendment one, I think it gives.

H

You a little more flexibility in the implementation of this.

H

I do believe that if you pass the the the fund, the taxes, I hope you.

H

Will that that you can work with the administration, and this commission will be an aid in making sure that the.

H

Money is used for its purpose, but I I am a little bit.

H

Less insistent uh that you have.

H

That the commission have legal authority over how the funds be used, so I would.

H

I would basically be in favor of of mr flaherty's council member flaherty's.

H

Proposal with amendment one thank you.

A

Thank you other further public comment on amendment. One.

B

Yes, um we have alex goodlatte who would like to make a comment.

B

Mr good luck, you'll have five minutes. Please limit your comments to amendment.

A

One oh I'll only need like a minute um so.

U

On principle, against the amendment, um I think that there needs to be a better.

U

Balance of power with uh particularly the community.

U

With uh where this money is allocated um and- uh and I mean the.

U

As it is, you know, the mayor has quite a bit of power with.

U

uh With the way that money is allocated anyway without amendment one so.

U

On on principle, I oppose amendment one and uh you know th. This is a common for.

U

Another time, but I'd be I'd, be more on board. With this.

U

You know the more power the community has so uh I'll yield.

A

Thank you any further comments from the public on amendment. One.

A

Second, call final call welcome back to the council now for.

A

Questions I have a question before we go to comments.

A

uh Councilman, do you have a question.

Q

I do I do. um It just seems to me that uh the ordinance itself isn't.

Q

uh Assembles an advisory commission, and this.

Q

Amendment just makes it explicit adding a time frame.

Q

Am I correct council member flaherty, uh yes councilmemberallo, I the intent here.

P

Is not to change anything substantively, it is to clarify, and in fact.

P

You know it was brought up last week and I think in discussions with mr lucas.

P

I'm not sure we'd have to explore further. I'm not sure we could delegate.

P

uh Authority to an advisory commission that that would.

P

Fully tie the hands of either the mayor or the city council in the duties we.

P

Retain that might be true of a council committee that was empowered to kill uh legislation or something that's.

P

Something we've talked about, um at least in some capacity before, but I.

P

Don't I'm not sure that we in in bloomington.

P

Municipal code can delegate authority to um an advisory commission that would.

P

That would remove our ultimate authority over some of these things. I don't know if mr lucas cares to comment on this as well.

P

Mr lucas, I would try to clarify mr flaherty's statement to say that I think.

A

It's statute that prevents that not necessarily local code.

A

What say you? I agree, I believe it's state law that.

V

Would prevent us from doing that and for the reasons council member flaherty expressed we this amendment is, is meant to clarify.

V

And I I would add that the one potentially substantive change is the.

V

Addition of a timeline deadline for such for the.

V

Advisory commission to provide a recommendation so that they couldn't simply sit on a proposal and uh and hold that.

V

Up indefinitely, without providing some recommendation so.

V

It provides a mechanism for a proposed expenditure to move forward.

P

And let me clarify as well that the way the ordinance is structured and what it calls for is not uh anticipating um simply uh a request for.

P

For their um recommendation with regard to a fully fleshed out proposal, the idea.

P

In how the ordinance is crafted is to get more elected officials and more.

P

Members of the public involved in this process at an earlier stage.

P

So that it is the commission itself in collaboration with city staff, that is.

P

Developing the proposal that is developing the set of recommendations in the policy and and we've got then four elected officials.

P

And three members of the public uh who are tasked with doing that.

P

And and that's that's the idea that the the amendment aims to.

P

To make fully clear that this commission cannot.

P

In any way um uh prevent the mayor or the city council from from.

P

Fulfilling their uh you know just to follow up.

Q

Councilmember flaherty could I could I ask um so if.

Q

If I recall from reading your ordinance.

Q

It is it's a mandate that the council or the administration, has to wait until.

Q

The recommendation comes from the advisory commission.

Q

And is that correct and then so, it seems to me.

Q

Really very important that there have there has to be some sort of timeline.

Q

Built in as mr lucas described am I reading that correctly. No, I think.

P

That's right: it's it's not anticipated to be.

P

The norm certainly, but there needs to be we- we decided there needed to be some.

P

Mechanism to clarify yes, if, for some reason, the commission.

P

Would not act uh per its duties that there's still a.

P

Mechanism to to follow through so thank you that answered my.

A

Question as well, so if there are no other questions from members.

A

We will go to debate. Is there any final comment on amendment one.

A

Seeing no oh councilmember sandberg amendment, one.

O

Yes, and while I appreciate on the face uh what council member.

O

um um uh Is attempting to do with this.

O

I think it is pr the whole thing as a whole, we'll get to that later is, is.

O

Premature and would need a little bit more vetting.

O

But I do very much appreciate any kind of ability measure uh for.

O

If and when this is approved, uh but at this point in time since I'm.

O

Not against it per se, I think the best I'll be able to.

O

Do tonight is abstain, just because I think the timing is off.

O

Thank you. Thank you further uh comment on amendment one council, baralo.

A

Just to say, I think it's really essential to.

Q

For me to pass amendment one because otherwise.

Q

It would mean uh inability to move ahead on any expenditures.

Q

If there was no recommendation coming from the commission.

Q

And as the ordinance is written, we would we would.

Q

Be required to wait for a recommendation so I'll be supporting it. Thank you.

A

Thank you further comment on amendment. One.

A

Seeing no further comment will the clerk please call the role in amendment one.

B

Yes, councilmember poland, yes, piedmont, smith; yes, clarity,.

B

Yes, smith, yes, sambar mustang,.

O

Rallo, yes, scandalory, yes, rosenberger.

K

Yeah and sims abstain. Okay,.

A

uh It sounds like that amendment passed 801. Is that correct.

B

Seven, zero: two all right. I did not hear all the votes.

A

Okay, uh so amendment one passes mr flaherty.

P

President roland, uh I move amended two to ordinance 2016.

P

uh Be adopted, we have a motion. A second please go.

A

Ahead and present sure um this is a very minor um well.

P

uh Simple at least edit to um section eight of the ordinance.

P

Simply striking the last clause uh which actually conditioned the.

P

Implementation of the ordinance itself on the possible passage of an edit.

P

um And and after further review uh with mr lucas.

P

It seemed that we would run afoul of of um indiana constitutional law if, if.

P

If an ordinance's application is contingent upon the actions of another.

P

Body and since it's the local income tax council, that is considering.

P

uh Any any any uh local income tax rates, uh it was.

P

Better to to strike this, uh I will acknowledge.

P

That, of course, um you know, we've we've talked about.

P

This a bit already, I think it is important to flush out these types of procedures in advance uh and have made that case.

P

Throughout the year um and and in this in the case of the.

P

Setting uh it is um obviously this ordinance would be.

P

Moot, if the, uh if a resolution to consider.

P

An edit is is not adopted by the monroe county income tax council as a whole.

P

In which case um uh you know our our best course of action at that.

P

Point would most likely be to simply uh bring forth.

P

A new ordinance to uh remove the commission.

P

uh From bloomington municipal code, but I've explained kind of already why.

P

Why I think the order of operations that we are undertaking at this moment is.

P

Important, I know a few members disagree, um but.

P

Again, that's the reason um for uh this amendment and striking the.

P

um uh The ordinance's application, as.

P

Contingent upon a passage of any edit.

A

Okay, are there questions from members about amendment two.

A

Seeing none we go to the public for actually I forgot to ask the.

A

Administration of their opinion on amendment two.

A

No comments, thank you. Thank you. We're going out of the public. Is there.

A

Any member of the public would like to comment on amendment 2 to ordinance.

A

A

First call.

A

Please raise your hand and zoom or type into the chat.

A

Second call for comment on amendment 2.

A

A

We'll come back to the council for debate. Is there any.

A

Comment are there any questions or any comment.

A

On amendment two.

A

Last call for will the clerk please call the roll and.

A

B

Council, member piedmont, smith, yes flaherty, yes, smith,.

R

Yes, sandberg of stain rollo, yes, scandalory.

K

Yes, heisenberger, yes, sims.

A

Yes, okay, that uh amendment passes 702 as well.

A

We now come back to ordnance 2016, as amended.

A

uh Are there any questions from members post amendment before we go to the.

A

Public council over scandaloury- and this is on the whole amendment.

F

Correct, as amended, that's correct as amended. Okay, um again, thank you for thinking through this and thank you.

F

For thinking through membership of what this commission could look like.

F

um Could you also comment what I'm, what I'm also thinking about.

F

Is the role of the environmental commission and the economic development commission and the viking head commission um and the art, bloomington arts, commission and I'm thinking about the.

F

Work that they all do and I'm wondering how that will inform.

F

This group, or how that will be represented in this group, and I was.

F

Wondering if you could comment on what you see as a relationship.

F

Among the various boards and commissions that we already have.

P

Sure yeah and that's a good question and and.

P

Honestly in in drafting this and reaching out to folks for feedback like.

P

I I wondered: if it it, it might be prudent to.

P

Have something like the chair of the woman commission on sustainability as.

P

A designated seat, for instance on the on the commission um or or similar.

P

Commissions but as you just noted in councilwoman's gambler, there are a lot of commissions that potentially touch on um aspects of of what this ordinance.

P

Tasks, you know the commission with looking at.

P

I don't think anybody from those commissions certainly would be.

P

You know they're they'd certainly be eligible to apply uh to be on the.

P

Commission- um and I think part of me thought too.

P

That, having folks with um you know relevant professional.

P

Expertise in some of these areas uh might be a.

P

Useful metric to consider in in in appointing members of the public.

P

um So I um I left it open for that reason,.

P

uh All that's not to say that we couldn't change this over time. Of course, too, it could involve more members of the public.

P

Some of those could be from existing commissions. If we wanted to consider that in time, um that's something I'm open to.

P

On balance, I went with the approach that I did, um but.

P

I think our boards and commissions are are very important.

P

In advising us on all sorts of policy- and frankly, I think we do need to be.

P

um You know more involved with them as a council.

P

And and- and um that could get difficult to do sometimes because there are a lot.

P

And and um but I think they provide an important role and um the intent here isn't to to limit.

P

Their authority or their their influence- um I I don't have a great answer.

P

Here's the short of it, you know, I think, they're important. I think.

P

I struggled with with knowing exactly how to.

P

Integrate that into a proposal, I also did want.

P

uh A number of elected officials to be part of the.

P

Development stages of this, because I think again, this is.

P

The the whole goal here is is being responsive to feedback from the public.

P

uh And we've heard some tonight already, but but I've heard it, you know again all.

P

Year long that um the desire for for.

P

Multiple elected officials to be involved in this sort of planning.

P

Process around this, so that's why I went with the balance that I did but again.

P

This body could amend that uh over time, if not tonight,.

P

You know, with with majority support. Thank you. That's helpful to hear your.

F

Thoughts on that um and kind of a corollary or a.

F

Cousin to that question, um given the creation of this board, given.

F

The creation uh uh or given, if the edit passes.

F

Do you are there any boards who you think will have especially have their.

F

Role changed or their charge altered in some way by virtue of having.

F

This group, if I was taking off the different boards and commissions that will have an.

F

Interest in an edit if it passes- and I was trying to think about whether.

F

Or not we're undermining them or helping them, or neither.

P

Yeah, you know, I think I think most of our boards and commissions have.

P

Purviews that are that, are you know well uh that extend far beyond this. Of course,.

P

Though I think you're right that it's probably of some interest to any number of our advisory um commissions- and uh I think it would be.

P

Up to this commission, the the sustainable development fund advisory commission itself, which, like many of our other specialized taxes, you know, have.

P

Have specialized advisory bodies for the tax explicitly.

P

I think in developing their own procedures and methodologies for how.

P

They want to make decisions and how recommendations rather and how they want.

P

To solicit feedback and input from the public and.

P

Others, I think it would be wise of of that. The.

P

Potential commission to solicit feedback and input from.

P

Other existing boards and commissions that may have relevant expertise or.

P

Knowledge, so I could imagine, for instance, um yes, you know four or five or six different commissions with.

P

With um some overlap of subject area interest.

P

uh Submitting their own um uh ideas, for you, know, project or projects.

P

Or programs that are in line with our plans, our adopted plans and say and making the case for for why. It's important to.

P

To include these, so that's one possibility, but again I think this is.

P

Something that um there are elements of process and.

P

Procedure and and methodology that the commission itself is tasked with.

P

Developing and and will necessarily have to come at a later date. Thank you very much. Thank you.

A

Are there further uh questions from members.

A

Counselor sims you, um council, member flaherty.

J

I'm looking at powers and duties.

J

2.35.050 um number five.

J

And it says in rare cases such as during an economic recession, the commission may.

J

Recommend funds allocated outside the scope of the.

J

Climate action plan and related plans. um So if you can.

J

um Can you explain that a little bit more and and what it.

J

Actually means um and and I'd like another rare case.

J

Example, that is uh not an economic recession.

J

And if I may consider um or continue, it also says that this.

J

Commission could consider possible funding outside the scope of climate.

J

Action and sustainable development.

J

And it lists different other funds that they could recommend.

J

um Outside of the sustainable development fund,.

J

So what is your intent there? If I may ask yeah, I think good question and I.

P

Think it's an important provision in the draft and it.

P

Seeks to balance um really what was the original proposal.

P

Bought by the administration, as well as some of the emerging and changing needs.

P

That we find for the community at times um so.

P

While the ordinance is meant to again re-center uh sort of our adopted plans,.

P

And and the direction and the projects that they call for and say and say we should be implementing. um It also seeks to recognize that.

P

There are economic shocks and other uh health emergencies, or otherwise that may.

P

Necessitate um or or make a strong case for uh using.

P

The edit funds in a different way, which state statute allows there's this.

P

uh Final provision under the state statute uh that specifies uh any other lawful purpose.

P

Of you know that city government could spend money on.

P

Is valid um and so, for instance, um I don't imagine.

P

That augmenting.

P

I I don't imagine that that using the edit revenues.

P

As as the means of increasing jackhop and social services, funding.

P

Would continue in perpetuity, for instance,.

P

But I underst, I think there is a very strong case to be made for that right.

P

Now, perhaps even beyond the amount that's been proposed uh in the context of economic recovery from kovid.

P

When uh our social service agencies are very stressed and there's a greater need.

P

For the work they do, um you know whether or not we want to.

P

Allocate from the general fund to increase jack hopkins kind of in perpetuity. I think that's another another question and that's actually what the second part of that gets to which you.

P

Called out, um which is that, um for instance,.

P

If there are provisions or or project ideas or program, ideas that are that are.

P

Not really within our plans, but uh that you know uh the council or.

P

The mayoral administration feels have merit um in considering whether to reckon you know whether to recommend.

P

A funding allocation that is outside the scope of.

P

Of sustainable economic development, the commission could can should consider.

P

um If the edit revenues are, if they think.

P

The edit revenues are the best funding source for such a proposal.

P

Whatever it may be, so it just calls out a couple of other funds, for instance,.

P

Food and beverage tax or public safety, local income tax or the.

P

Housing development fund, because um those also may be valid.

P

Sources of revenue, for instance, we've used the food and beverage tax as a source of arts grants uh to help arts organizations. During this.

P

Economic downturn, so that's all. That means if we're going to consider.

P

um You know grants like that in the context of economic recovery.

P

For arts organizations that we should at least this commission should at least be.

P

Thinking about um are there are there more appropriate.

P

Sources of revenue to tackle that particular issue at this.

P

Time, if not by all means continue to make the recommendation if.

P

The commission thinks that there is a better source of funding.

P

For a particular proposal, then they could note that.

P

So it was just meant to be saying that we will take a holistic view.

P

At the funds available to address the needs.

P

Of the city and and.

P

Yeah the needs of the city during cases of economic downturn, you asked for.

P

Another example, um I can imagine um a natural disaster.

P

um You know that that impacts the city in a meaningful way from a health.

P

Perspective or otherwise uh that might um necessitate.

P

You know funds that that we call upon and and while we have reserves, a rainy.

P

Day fund to do those sorts of things uh I wanted um this provision in place.

P

To be able to provide another mechanism uh to kind of get at some of the things.

P

That that, frankly, mayor hamilton has proposed, as, as uh you know, a reason.

P

For um is at least one reason for considering this, this resolution 2013 uh related to covid recovery. I I didn't.

P

Want those types of things to be entirely off the table, but I don't think.

P

They are the original intent of this proposal, and, and so the goal was.

P

To balance that to to to re-center the the intent the.

P

Original intent of the proposal, but to also allow enough flexibility to.

P

Address uh things like economic recessions or.

P

Other uh emergent needs that are that are.

P

Limited in in time, perhaps uh with the city.

P

Does that help similar to the economic situation we find ourselves in currently.

J

Absolutely okay. um Does this also.

J

um Give this commission the ability to recommend using some of.

J

The edit funds for an example to enhance a public.

J

Safety, local income tax is that part of what's intended here. I I.

P

Guess, um in particular like like, if there's um no.

P

Not um I guess let let me well, I may have.

J

The wrong word, I'm seeking clarification. Sure um I guess if there is my point.

P

Here in this provision was was if there is a particular um need that the city has identified, that.

P

That it thinks uh we need to fund in some way and and proposes that or brings that to the commission as part of a.

P

Set of things we might, the commission might consider uh if it is a.

P

If, if the commission feels it is pretty clearly a public safety.

P

uh Need that has been articulated uh that it would be within its uh power, is.

P

To to suggest that um the ps lit at least be.

P

Considered um for that, public safety need.

P

um So, just again, it's kind of saying um that the commission should consider.

P

The appropriateness of any any uh request.

P

Or or potential project or program, it should.

P

Consider the appropriateness, not only in the context of our.

P

Adopted city plans, but also in the context of you, know,.

P

Where, where it best fits uh in terms of where funding is coming from within the.

P

City: okay, once again, thank you very much.

P

You're meeting president volun, um I'm sorry councilman baralo go ahead.

Q

uh Councilman flaherty, could you uh describe.

Q

A process where uh appointments are made, and you say that they should be made by.

Q

Consensus between the mayor and the council, but where they're not or consensus, isn't made uh that it occurs.

Q

Through rank choice, voting uh by whom, by the mayor and.

Q

The three council appointments correct.

Q

I'm not sure that's specified, it says I mean I'm wondering if.

Q

I mean it's kind of vague enough that you might, it might imply that.

Q

Some of the other appointees might vote on the ring choice. It doesn't explicitly.

C

Say who, who makes those votes of the ring.

Q

Choice point voting. I guess it's implicit in the in the.

P

Sentence in the event that the mayor and council member commissioners cannot agree on a city resident appointment, a ranked choice, a vote from among.

P

Qualified candidates will be used to fill the seats. I could have said a ranked choice, vote uh to be.

P

Made by yes, council member commissioners and the mayor uh again.

P

The clause earlier in the sentence probably implies that, but I take your.

P

Point that there is at least some level of ambiguity there um that could be corrected. That would need to be.

P

Done in in writing via amendment right now, if I'm not mistaken, which.

P

Could that be done by a friendly? uh It's a friendly amendment, mr lucas.

Q

It implies probably what we assumed, but it needs to be made.

Q

It seems to be better that is, writing an amendment form.

V

uh If, if the council wants to continue.

V

Debate uh I'll display that, when we're ready.

P

Thank you thanks councilmember, further questions.

A

About the ordinances amended, um have we met the public comment on the.

A

Ordinance as amended, okay, um we can come back to questions.

A

And uh well, I guess we have to handle the amendment now.

A

Before we go to the public.

A

um Point of order could we go to public comment for the.

P

Ordinance, that's currently amended uh and then consider amendment three. I.

P

Think, technically we would offer another public comment round to the public. After that's right um all right, I mean, I suppose, there's a.

P

Risk in doing so, but but uh my I hope that uh yeah no one will abuse.

A

It since amendment 3 is a technicality. We will go to public.

A

Comment now on ordinance 2016 as amended.

A

uh Madam clerk are there any members of the public would like to speak to the.

A

Ordinance as amended, yes, there are a few and I'm going to.

B

Start with a comment from sam dove, who would like to.

B

Know when the bus routes are going to change.

A

Okay, thank you and then the next comment will be from david keppel and mr couple.

B

You can go ahead.

H

Yes, uh good evening, members of the council.

H

uh I think that council member flaherty has shown a great deal of wisdom.

H

In the way he has drafted, this uh people have been picking at every.

H

Element of ambiguity tonight and that's your job, but nothing can work.

H

In the real world, without some degree of cooperation.

H

And that does involve a little bit of flexibility.

H

In how it's implemented, uh I think that flexibility.

H

Is quite appropriate for bloomington, I think we need to remember that the.

H

Extreme levels of distrust in this country now apply to a national.

H

Administration, but if we're going to succeed in.

H

Addressing climate change at the local level.

H

We are going to need the wonderful combination.

H

Of initiative, which this proposal by council member flaherty.

H

Includes and some degree of flexibility and how it's done.

H

So I think the balance has been correctly correctly set.

H

And I very much hope that you will approve this.

H

Proposal, thank you.

A

Thank you for further public comment on the ordinances amended. Yes, next up is.

B

Alana stonebreaker, if you want to go ahead.

S

Hi thanks again, um I just want to point out that this.

S

Right now this evening is the first public comment.

S

That 2016 has had after being introduced last week and at that time we were.

S

Discouraged from commenting upon it, then, and then during this.

S

Meeting we have had not one but two amendments to also look.

S

Like look at during the meeting as the public and.

S

Another one that is being drafted as we speak, so my main.

S

Comment is that there hasn't been enough public input.

S

On this resolution, I'm sorry this ordinance, whose entire focus, whose.

S

Entire intent is to allow more public input into.

S

A process and it's a very important process.

S

Because it deals with millions of dollars and possibly.

S

As the eat, it expands tens of millions of dollars.

S

um As as it, it sounds like all money from.

S

Eat it that goes to the city of bloomington will go into.

S

This fund further, I think that it's important.

S

That that there seems to be some miscommunication between the constituents who have advocated for this, in which.

S

They have been told that this would give a larger amount of foresight, which seems.

S

Now, to be constitutionally impossible under indiana law,.

S

So I feel like there needs to be more communication with the constituents.

S

Before we allow this to continue to move forward,.

S

um Finally, I'd also point out that, even during this meeting.

S

We haven't even read the the issue along aloud, which doesn't even allow.

S

People to hear the thing if they haven't also.

S

uh Reviewed the council packet. um I think that the intent of this.

S

Particular ordinance is very valid, but I think the impact has.

S

A lot of the opposite effects being once again, the first public.

S

Comment that has happened with this amendment that deals with.

S

Millions of dollars, I would encourage us to have at least.

S

One more round of city council meetings before so that people can fully review.

S

It because, even in this meeting at this exact moment, we don't have the final version and we have to stay on this on the zoom call.

S

Before we can even see how it's finally drafted, so I would really urge.

S

More time to avow to look at this to think through this.

S

I'm also very curious um about how we're going to.

S

Ensure accountability for those members which.

S

As to remind you, council, members and mayors are democratically elected.

S

um So that is how they represent constituency, and I haven't heard a lot.

S

About how these uh three uh uh additional community members will be.

S

Chosen to reflect uh both the the various diverse.

S

Perspectives that we want on this count on this focus.

S

So once again, um I'm excited to see um some focus on community input and some.

S

Processes, but I just I just feel that there has not been enough public comment, as this is the first public comment.

S

For an ordinance that was introduced last week, thank you.

A

Thank you as your further public comment on the ordinance 2016.

A

As amended, yes, there is next up. Is mr greg alexander? If you want to go ahead.

I

Hey, uh thank you. I'm greg alexander. um I just you know. I really appreciate the.

I

Effort of this ordinance that uh you know there needs.

I

To be some supervision outside the mayor's office, um but um you really, I I believe that you have to identify the.

I

Problem you're solving before you raise a tax and we've identified a.

I

Problem the buses and we've identified that they are amenable to this kind of funding solutions. As far as anybody has said, and that's something that really would.

I

Help people- and I I just don't know why we need a committee.

I

To to oversee the mayor's slush fund, instead of simply.

I

Allocating money to the buses, I that's why I told you about.

I

The sidewalk project they just spent some hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I

Without improving things for people just to look like they were doing.

I

Something- and I really think that we just got to have.

I

A plan before we raise the tax and that plan should be.

I

The buses fund, the buses thanks.

A

Thank you further public comment on ordinance 2016 as amended.

B

Okay, next up, we have randy paul, mr paul, if you'd like to go.

B

Ahead hi, can you hear me all right, yeah, I initially when this came out by.

M

The administration uh in the first year I was for it particularly because of the emphasis on climate change with that.

M

Taken out, I feel pretty strongly against you.

M

Voting yes for this, you know in many ways I think the vote.

M

You're taking tonight isn't just about an income tax increase. I think it's going to determine how history is going to view you as far.

M

As how you led bloomington, mr paul, I hate to interrupt.

A

You, but this is uh the amen. This is the ordinance.

A

Creating the advisory commission, the tax itself is the next item.

M

Okay, can I come back later then, of course you can yes, okay.

M

Thanks. Thank you. Please limit your comments to.

A

Ordinance 2016 the creation of advisory commission.

A

The next speaker please, mr bingham, you are up.

T

T

I'm honestly debating, as I sit here, whether or not this ordinance does.

T

Enough, um I think the intent.

T

Is is absolutely in the right place and I honestly think.

T

It is necessary to have an ordinance like this.

T

Some body, some mechanism that shifts power.

T

From the mayor's office to the council and the public, more broadly in the.

T

Shaping of how this tax these tax dollars get used.

T

In order to earn the public support on this, because.

T

In trying to advocate for this tax, the biggest pushback I have gotten is that.

T

The plan the mayor put forward either isn't clear enough for people it's it's.

T

Too, all over the place, it doesn't have a clear.

T

Point or it's not climate focused enough and that's.

T

That is a criticism I really agree with as well is that it is.

T

We have to respond to climate change. Everything we are experiencing now is.

T

Partly fueled by climate change, everything we are experiencing was.

T

Predicted by climate scientists in the 90s and 2000s.

T

As a consequence of climate change, including the pandemic,.

T

If we put most of our money into trying to ameliorate the symptoms,.

T

Without also solving the cause we will fail, things will continue to get worse.

T

And people will suffer far worse than they have this year in the coming years. We're not going to get a better moment.

T

To respond to climate change, we are going to be facing rolling shocks.

T

Now that we're in it- and we are in it now.

T

These shocks are going to keep coming and they're going to keep getting worse.

T

We might get a few breather years here or there 2021 might not be too bad. 2022 might feel like we're getting our footing.

T

Again but then 20 20 23 is gonna, come down like a saga bricks and it's gonna keep coming.

T

But we have to respond to climate change while we are.

T

In it, while people are suffering from it, we we lost the window.

T

To respond before that's reality, we blew it.

T

The time has passed.

T

Which means every dollar in a tax like this.

T

Frankly, we need so much more money than just the 4 million raised by this to.

T

Respond to climate change, it's going to cost a billion dollars to.

T

Hit the ipcc's targets over the next 10 years for just the great electricity, let alone transportation.

A

I'll give make the same admonition remember we're talking about the advisory commission, not the tax itself. Okay, thank you.

T

um The point of all this being that mayor hamilton's proposed, which.

T

Of which, which proposes many many things of which climate is a relatively small.

T

Proportion, I think, less than a million dollars directly cut climate carbon emissions in mayor hamilton's proposal.

T

Doesn't cut, it doesn't begin to cut it. Hence much of the lack of support for it.

T

It's already a hard ass for people to ask people to raise taxes in a time like.

T

This, if we're doing and then also not addressing the cause.

T

At hand it becomes impossible, so I initially supported this commission.

T

On the idea that it would allow us to draft.

T

More targeted plans that would allow us to use this money.

T

In a way that does help people who are suffering while.

T

Also, ensuring that every dollar is cutting carbon and moving us forward.

T

On solving the cause, my concern, both with a more a more thorough read of.

T

The legislation, as originally written and with the amendments is that it.

T

Doesn't actually shift enough power and we are still effectively left in the.

T

Same situation, we were before where the mayor can put an.

T

Appropriations proposal out there and the council is left either voting. It.

T

Up or down, but unable to substantially change it in.

T

Which case if the mayor does not decide to put forward a climate.

T

First proposal we're stuck if this.

T

If the council believes that this commission can solve that problem,.

T

And I'm not a lawyer, so I'm just left with my lay reading of it.

T

If the council believes that this commission can solve that problem,.

T

Then I support it and I ask the council to support it. If you do not believe it.

T

Solves that problem, if you believe it leaves us in the same position, we were before where the mayor puts forward a proposal.

T

And the council is left to vote it up or down without any substantive mechanism to amend it or change it.

T

Then I ask you to vote it down and I have to say I I don't support the lit.

T

Right now, either for many people, their support of the lit.

T

Is contingent upon this commission being effective.

T

Thank you. Thank you. Further public comment on ordinance, 2016.

A

As amended, um yes, next up, we had alex goodlad.

B

Mr goodland, if you'd like to unmute okay, so um here's what I have to say so.

U

um I don't want to get too much into the.

U

To the next ordinance, but I want to talk about it as it relates to this.

U

Tournament, which is that, um without you know, w.

U

Without this ordinance being considered right now,.

U

um There's pretty much zero scrutiny as far as I know,.

U

On um on how the money is allocated, or I I guess there is scrutiny by.

U

The council to some extent but there's there's much less.

U

Accessibility um from the uh from the public- and I I would.

U

Go as far as to say, as even with this ordinance pass, there's still.

U

Like because it's it's, it ends up being a um a commission, and I mean.

U

The the public doesn't really. I I mean we.

U

If, if anybody else is watching this, I mean we have to really.

U

Take it upon ourselves as public human beings to.

U

Use these commissions and scrutinize it that's what the assumption is.

U

With um the public being involved in in the process.

U

um But uh so um so we we really got our work cut out.

U

For us, as um as the public goes.

U

So um that being said, I I would say that.

U

I I would I would support you know I would support voting for this.

U

um In lieu of nothing- um and I would say this, uh commission.

U

Doesn't go far enough um and uh though.

U

To be fair there, I guess there really isn't a way for it to go farther if.

U

If this can't be a binding commission- um and I know, there's like some legal.

U

Hoops with that so um but but but the point is, is that.

U

I I don't think the public, I don't think, there's at all a justification.

U

Period for um this tax without some sort of public scrutiny.

U

So um I would be inclined to uh vote for the.

U

uh uh This this specific ordinance uh and I yield that in my time.

A

Thank you. Is there any other member of the public who would like to address.

A

Ordinance 2016 as amended. I don't, madam clerk, I don't see anyone.

B

Thank you last call for public comment.

A

Seeing none we'll come back to the council for questions or debate.

A

Any final questions from members.

A

City men will go to debates. Any final comment.

A

On ordinance, 2016, councilmember, rosenberger.

C

Thank you. I just wanted to say. I appreciate this ordinance.

C

Thank you for bringing it um just just thinking about.

C

Talking to folks about this, the resolution.

C

And where people are hesitant, I think what what I hear the what I've heard the.

C

Most is um the.

C

Lack of the the resolution has like a lack of purpose, and people want more.

C

Transparency, so I think for me, um thinking about.

C

Half voting on the resolution. This helps me a lot.

C

To know that we're putting um a mechanism in place.

C

To really make sure we're staying true to the purpose of.

C

Raising these signs from people, especially in a time where it's.

C

Difficult to do that, so um I.

C

Just want to say thank you, and I appreciate this.

A

Thank you further debate. Councilmember rollo.

Q

uh Yes, I would have recommended. Of course I did.

Q

Already recommend that we might postpone, because I think that this required.

Q

Some more time, as one of the speakers mentioned, but.

Q

Since we're going to be voting on it, uh I want to thank uh council member.

Q

Flaherty for bringing it forward, and I think it adds.

Q

Another layer of review involving public in terms of city.

Q

Expenditures- and I don't think that that, despite the fact that it's an advisory.

Q

Commission only, I don't think, that's insignificant, so.

Q

I'll be supporting it thanks. Thank you further comment from members.

P

Point of order actually uh council. President roland, I was wondering if mr lucas had an update on the um possible.

A

Oh, I have forgotten about this yeah. Yes, I think I've got uh an amendment in.

V

Writing that uh reflects what councilman morale wanted to propose. If you give me just a moment.

V

Councilmember rallo can confirm if this.

V

Reflects uh what he.

Q

Q

That makes it explicit. Thank you.

V

So I okay! No, if a motion had been made to.

V

To adopt that amendment, but it is not, would someone like to make that motion.

A

I'll make the motion second motion in a second any discussion.

A

On the amendment.

A

See then we're going to go to the public amendment three, and I noted that mr paul.

A

Wanted to speak on the ordinance as amended and didn't.

A

Get a chance- and I saw he raised his hand, so I'd like to invite him to use this public comment period.

A

To comment on the ordinances amended as well, if mr paul is still present.

A

M

Yes, what I'd like to do is talk about the amendment once you finish up the.

M

um The ordinance, once you finish up the amendments.

A

Well, uh that's why we've already been through we've already been through the public comment period, so I want to invite you to go ahead and speak about.

A

The ordinance now all right, thank you, go ahead.

M

Like I started to say, I was actually for this before all the climate change money.

M

Was taken out so that pretty much lost my support? I do.

M

Think that your vote tonight is more than just about a tax increase. I think it's about your leadership, how history will record you as far as.

M

How you've led through this pandemic, I think it's corner. Please I'm sorry, mr.

D

Paul sorry, mr volun, um I believe mr paul is.

D

Addressing the actual tax increase, what I want, which is what I.

M

Wanted, oh, I see I'm sorry.

M

I'm just warming up for the third time so yeah I've made it I've. I've made a.

A

Mistake again, you're right, I uh I'm sorry, I'm getting confused by.

A

Everything, mr paul I'd, ask you to wait on the tax increase. That is fine. Thank.

A

You, sir, all right. My apology uh thanks, madam.

A

Parliamentarian for the correction, we come back to the council. We were in.

A

Debate are there any members of the council who would like to address.

A

Ordinance 2016. Remember president poland, which you're.

A

Talking about any anyone else like to speak um council.

A

Members point of point of order: I think we're on the.

D

Amendment council, member.

A

That's correct, madam parliamentarian. Thank you for correcting me again.

A

We're back to council for uh final comment on amendment three.

A

Seeing none with the clerk, please call the role in amendment three.

B

Yes, council, member flaherty, yes smith,.

K

Yes, danbury abstain, rollo.

Q

Yes, yes, rosenberger yeah,.

K

A

Yes and piedmont: smith, yes, okay, that's a 702 vote. Amendment 3 is.

A

Also adopted, we now come back to ordinance, 2016.

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As triply amended and we are in debate- and I call on my colleagues for.

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Comment on ordinance 2016 as strictly amended.

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Last call for comments: councilmember, piedmont, smith,.

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Yes, thank you. um I think this is a good ordinance.

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When I asked at my last constituent meeting.

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What the feedback was about, the mayor's proposed increase in the local income.

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Tax, the first question everybody had was: what is it for.

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And, of course, nobody can guarantee precisely what it's for.

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Because that takes appropriation, ordinance proposed by the mayor and.

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Passed by the city council uh for the city's portion.

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Which, of course, is just part of it, um but this way at least.

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uh There will be more public input as to what it is for uh it will not just.

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uh Be uh the mayor bringing an app appropriation ordinance that we.

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Vote yes or no on, we will actually be involved.

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With uh through the advisory commission in.

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uh Crafting that, um or at least revising any proposed.

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Appropriations before and making a recommendation before it comes to the.

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City council, for a vote, so I think that's a big improvement.

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To bring transparency to the process also, um I think the climate crisis.

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Is an existential threat to humanity and to count with other species on this.

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Planet- and we need to do our part here in.

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Bloomington both individually and as a local government, so I think the priority on the reduction of greenhouse gas.

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Emissions as well as mitigation of climate change.

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Impacts is the right priority for these funds.

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So I appreciate mr flaherty's work on this and I will be voting in support.

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Thank you. Thank you, councilmember sandberg, thank you and.

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Once again, as I've already alluded to, I appreciate the work that's done here.

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And when and if the time comes for us to be.

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Considering these dollars, that perhaps could be.

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Coming forward, if this, uh if 2013 is passed tonight,.

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I think the time will be in the future to have a more broad discussion.

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As many of the comments have been made tonight,.

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That um this came up rather quickly uh and while there are a lot of good.

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Elements to it and a lot of good work that was done with the amendments that.

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Just we have heard um the time is not now.

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In order for this to move forward, I think it's it's premature.

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And I think it will benefit and be made even better.

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With the benefit of more time, more examination.

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And more opportunity for the public to truly digest what this is, what it means.

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What the merits are and what the consequences could be so.

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I can't in good conscience, support it tonight. I could very well do that in the.

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Future, but for tonight I will be voting. No.

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Thank you. Thank you. Further comment from members.

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Councilmember flaherty sure um yeah first, just regarding.

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Both ms stonebreaker's comments and the and the um comments from uh councilman.

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Rose, we just heard I you know the timeline.

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Here is is reflective of the resolution we're voting on. I.

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um I I grant you that uh an extra committee meeting of council to.

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Consider this and and a longer period of time to vet, it would have been ideal.

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um But uh I'll echo the points I made earlier that.

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From the start of the year, I've been trying to work on this in some capacity.

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And and emphasizing the need for it and all my talks with the administration that um you know, we criticisms that I've.

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Heard throughout the year uh have been a lack of detail in the.

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Plan and a lack of process in place.

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To to guarantee that the public is involved, that multiple elected officials.

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Officials are involved, and, frankly, just an up or down vote on an upward isn't.

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Enough, like we, we see the difficulties in collaborating with that we've experienced them this year.

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If we want to, as legislators and as elected officials have a role in the.

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Policy making related to this, uh you know we need a different structure.

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In place to to get us and the public involved earlier in the.

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Process and that's really important to me and I've said that a lot.

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You know in in conversations uh throughout the year and.

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That's why it's being brought in advance of the resolution um and why? I thought.

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It was necessary uh both in responsive in responsiveness.

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To to constituents in the public, but also um for my own uh views on on. uh What's how is best to pursue.

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Something like this, which is you know, a difficult question, is and.

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And one that that has a lot of strong opinions, as we've all seen in recent weeks and throughout the year. So.

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um I just wanted to echo or reiterate those those reasons for.

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uh Bringing it now and why I think it's important to do so thanks.

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Thank you, councilmember smith, I'd like to thank uh council member.

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Flaherty for doing this and working on this, I think it's.

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Structurally, it's a really it's a good step forward.

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For us to do that, so we can help make the.

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Sausage before it gets out, and it also does.

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Another thing that I think is really great is increases public participation.

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So with that, you know I'll I'll be supporting this. Thank you.

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Thank you further comment from members on ordinance, 2016 councilmember.

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Scandaluri, yes, thank you. um Allow me to join the.

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Chorus of thank you, councilmember flaherty's, um for your good work on this, because it is hard to.

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Sort through this and try and operationalize the very good idea of.

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Public involvement, so thank you for that. um I'm going to be supporting this.

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Tonight, for a couple reasons, first of all, I want to be in the event that this does pass. The lint does pass.

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um Either tonight or after our colleagues at the county have.

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Weighed in I'd like to at least be somewhat prepared.

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To respond to that and to move forward in a more inclusive way than is just.

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Reflected uh in the lit ordinance, um I've never.

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Been a fan of the notion of a capital improvement plan, that's just adopted by the city executive. I think it is.

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Important when we're talking about spending this much money to actually.

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Write in and require um the kind of input that you've.

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Described is the timing perfect? No, not wild about.

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It, um but I think it builds in a useful control and it makes the other ordinance better, so I'll be supporting it. Thank you.

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Final call for debate on ordnance 2016.

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I'll take my opportunity here. um I think that, overall, this is.

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Oh, I'm sorry go ahead, please! Oh! That's! Okay!.

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No, I know you reserve the right to go last, so I.

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Got my hand up a little bit late. Sorry by all means, please go ahead.

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um I've heard from the comp uh um from some of the public tonight a couple.

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Of things um one does this ordinance do enough.

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um I've heard another public comment having to do with.

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Trust um an author or collaboration in there.

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um Another public comment says yeah: we we might get a bit of a reprieve, but.

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The effects of climate change will hit us like a ton of bricks at some point.

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uh My point with this is: uh it is a a a threat um to our humanity.

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And I think we are trying as a city to do our part and we can do.

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More one of the issues I have with this ordinance.

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And in the expenditures of the funds is that bloomington city does not.

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Operate in a vacuum and doing our part.

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Is one is one thing and I think we're doing a good job? We can do better.

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But it has to be broader in order to work toward solving some of the.

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The climate change and greenhouse gas issues.

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Bloomington is a regional leader or we claim to be.

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So why can't we be the leader in educating and promoting.

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And start with our contiguous counties: let's start with our own county.

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Colleagues and then, as that gets broader and bigger.

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Then we would have some pretty serious effects on climate change.

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So the education and working with others and collaborating in order to make this.

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More effective, I think, is kind of what's missing.

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In this ordinance, and I'm not so sure, if it's out of our.

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Purview, I'm sure it's been thought about.

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But that's one of the things that bother me the most.

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If we went to zero greenhouse gas emissions.

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I often think how would that really affect.

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Our situation um it'll help bloomington, don't get me.

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Wrong but as far as the overall effect and the much broader effects.

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And then, throughout the state and on how does that really help.

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um And us being a leader, I see us doing that.

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But I just want to see this where it's reaching out broader, so we can have.

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More effects on limiting the effects of climate change.

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um I will also, while I still have it um thank.

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Councilmember flaherty for all the hard work he's done too. I also appreciate the.

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Phone chats that we've had before they're.

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Very illuminating, so thank you very, very much.

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But like some of our public comments, I just don't think this goes far enough.

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I don't think it does enough, I'm not so sure about the collaborative.

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Standpoint from working with others on getting more done.

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So I will not be able to support ordnance.

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2016 this evening, thank you. Thank you. Did I miss anybody.

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Okay, uh if there's no other uh debate I'll take a crack at it here.

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um I want to underscore um the point.

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That uh statute does not give a city council the ability.

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To increase a line item in a budget.

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Or and a budget is an appropriation ordinance, so we are not allowed.

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As a council to increase spending, we are allowed to decrease it to.

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Increase spending we must persuade the administration to increase.

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Even a penny more in one line, item of a budget or an appropriation.

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Ordinance, this is a problem.

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And a problem that has been.

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Addressed quite thoroughly with this ordinance.

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I uh I think that this ordinance is pointing to.

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A different model for the development of spending, while the administration must.

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Initiate it it's clear that in this case,.

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At the very least, I mean, I suspect, that a majority is going to support this.

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Ordinance but at the very least, the council.

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Expects the administration to involve uh the council more in the formation.

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Of spending not simply to vote it up or down, I don't think it's.

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Going to be enough, regardless of the vote here tonight,.

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Anymore, for I mean if the administration.

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Expects to spend money, um you know that has anything that's even remotely.

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Controversial out of the ordinary.

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That they should expect that this council is going to be expecting.

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More involvement before legislation is brought to us.

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So I would strongly urge the mayor and his staff.

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To not be surprised if they continue to see this kind of.

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Expectation from council members and by extension,.

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The public, because I think that there's been a great deal of public input.

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Here uh in this conversation, despite the compressed timeline and.

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It's reflecting uh more than anything and an avid interest among members of.

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The public, as well as council members uh as to.

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How the money will be spent, how the decision to spend the money is formed.

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uh What particular uh uh criteria were used to include or exclude.

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Initiatives in that spending- um and I think that.

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This to me this is uh incontrovertible. I don't think that.

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It's ever going to be any less problematic. I don't think that.

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uh This council is going to uh expect any less input.

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On the formation of spending, which is, as we've seen from two or three.

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Prior appropriation ordinances, uh a standard, that's even higher, it takes.

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Longer for there to be an adequate opportunity.

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For members to.

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Change an appropriation ordinance because of the advertising requirement.

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Put on by statute, a resolution can be done in one meeting.

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A regular ordinance can be done, one with a two-thirds.

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Majority and unanimous consent to hear it, but an appropriation.

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Ordinance requires advertising, and so we have to set a date.

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When the ordinance will be heard and in order to properly amend it, it takes.

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More weeks than the typical ordinance um so uh because that's so problematic.

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I think that council needs to be involved in the formation of appropriation ordinances before they get submitted to the clerk.

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And the attorney I'll leave it there uh with.

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That, uh if there's no further debate any other responses.

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I will call the clerk to call the roll on ordnance 2016, as amended.

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Okay, councilmember smith. Yes,.

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Sandberg, oh.

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Rallo, yes, scandalory, yes, rosenberger.

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Yeah sims no falling.

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Yes, piedmont, smith, yes and flaherty. Yes,.

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By a vote of seven to two uh ordinance, 2016.

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Passes we go now to the next item on the.

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