City of Bloomington, Indiana City Council, 9 Jan 2019

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Agenda, Organizational Meeting Minutes, , Committee of the Whole Memo, Packet : https://bloomington.in.gov/onboard/meetingFiles/download?meetingFile_id=4177

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Thank you, welcome to bloomington common council.

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Committee of the whole, this is our organizational meeting.

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Would the clerk up today is wednesday, the 9th of january 2019, with the clerk.

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Please call the roll., yes.

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Council member ruff stir bob chopra.

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Piedmon smith here and the.

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Should we start again.

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No okay. well,, I lost track so granger present., okay bowling here sandburg here, sims.

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Yeah, rollo here.. Thank you.

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Thank you so on tonight's agenda, as I said, it's an organizational minute.

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Meeting so there is some difference that will happen tonight.. We have no minutes to approve.

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We'll have reports by council members and mayor no reports tonight.. I don't think we have any committee reports,, but after that we'll have time for.

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Public comment for items not on the agenda.

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Our next item is election of officers and.

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Also, council committee assignments and seating chart on the die, as we then have some appointments to boards and commissions.

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Followed by legislation for first reading.

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Ordinance 19-0 one regarding the salaries of some.

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Bloomington employees ordinance 19-0 three to amend title 8.

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Regarding historic preservation and protection.

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Ordinance 19-0 four to amend title eight entitled.

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Historic preservation and protection.

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We then have legislation for second reading and resolutions, which will include again ordinance.

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Following that, we will have additional public comment for items not on the agenda.

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We may have some council schedule issues.. We will adjourn to be followed by a committee of the whole.

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So what I'm going to do for starting my reports? I'm going to start on my left with.

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Mister there he is.. Mr. bravo.

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Thank you, madam president. I wasn't preparing anything but I I would like to just say that it's I.

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Think it's important and incumbent on everybody to.

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Contact the federal government, their representatives about the shutdown that's affecting the country., it's affecting.

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Predominantly people who are vulnerable in society- and I think it's getting to a critical stage and it's simply a game.. The president- is playing a game.

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If he, if he were serious about it,, he was serious about border security.

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We not be talking about a wall and there are people in congress who would work with the president.

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As a matter of fact,, it's curious that this whole debate is happening with a new congress, since the previous congress.

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Being of one party could have passed the wall if they had chosen to the point is that there isn't?.

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Support so it is a game and it's a dangerous game and it's causing a lot of suffering.

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I read an article about.

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People in clay city not being able to cash food stamps, and I imagine that's everywhere.- it's happening.

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So I think it's incumbent on government to help people who are vulnerable.

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And I think it's incumbent incumbent on us to do our role as well., but clearly only the federal government can.

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Solve this situation. so,, thank you.

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Thank you. mr. simms. thank you. and, if I briefly may have just like to acknowledge.

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105 years ago, in 1914 my fraternity, phi beta, sigma fraternity incorporated, was found. It.

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Was founded by three gentlemen in howard, university and.

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It started on the belief that the fraternity should be a vehicle for delivering services to the african-american community.

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Now, when I pledged and became a member, I was a.

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Actually, first year, first semester, sophomore here on campus and many of the organizations that I've been with or been a part of over life, have.

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Models and missions that I think have formed.

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Some of the things that I do today and our model then, or it still lives., I should say its culture- for service and service to humanity.

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So I just want to acknowledge our founding date, all my fraternity, brothers. Our gadget gathered at bj's brew house this evening. If you guys are looking go mop and.

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Happy anniversary., thank you.

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Thank you, miss amber.

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Thanks mister boland.

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Briefly, the start of a new year on an idea I read about.

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Recently in governing magazine, an article by the former mayor of kansas, city,, missouri,.

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Talks about it's a title is mobility is starting to get the attention it deserves, and, to summarize it briefly.

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Housing jobs in healthcare are three important.

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Aspects of any city, but mobility affects all of them being able to.

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Get around the city to take care of.

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Or to to get between housing and jobs to take care of one's health.

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And the city of pittsburgh, where I was a resident before I moved to bloomington many years ago,.

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The mayor five years ago made mobility one of his top priorities and.

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They they went through study, they got the harvard equivalent of spea to.

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Give them recommendations and what they recommended was the development of a.

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Cabinet-Level office on mobility that reports directly to the mayor.

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Pittsburgh eventually created a department of mobility and infrastructure,, which I think is interesting title and.

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Their goals, I think, are worth quoting as the author of the article said, because they're so clear.

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Intuitive and non-technical or worth quoting verbatim, pittsburgh has five goals for their department of mobility and infrastructure.

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Number one that no one dies or is seriously injured, traveling on city streets.

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Sounds like sort of an obvious goal,, but not necessarily.

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Because we maybe take for granted the throughput of.

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Of cars over other.

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Priorities: the second goal that every household in pittsburgh can access fresh fruits and vegetables.

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Within 20 minutes travel of home without the requirement of a private vehicle, a.

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Very interesting goal indeed, the third goal: all trips, less than one mile- should be easily and enjoyably achieved by non vehicle travel.

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The fourth goal- streets and intersections- can be intuitively navigated by an adolescent.

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If you ever think about a large, complicated intersection.

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You know,, that's, I think where that goal comes in and the lasts and to me the most significant goal.

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Is that the combined cost of transportation?.

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Housing and energy does not exceed 45 percent of household income for any income group.

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I think these are an interesting set of interlocked goals that.

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Pittsburgh is very wise to be pursuing.. I think that these goals set a standard for us to.

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Better understand the challenges that we have, that defy.

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The silos of individual departments, we struggled over the years to figure out.

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Well,, where should a new task go? Who should be in charge of what?.

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But it's only if we start with sort of overarching goals like these, that.

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Tackling emergent problems between silos makes sense. so anyway,. I look forward to.

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As we, this year, we're going to be taking up the you, do the unified development ordinance, our zoning code.

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We will be revising it for the first time in 13 years,.

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These are the goals that I'll be using. When I look at the.

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Proposal as it comes to the council, and with that I want to wish everyone a happy new year, and I hope that we are.

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Productive and strong in 2019 ss city. Council.- thank you.

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Thank you. I as well want to wish people a happy new year.. I will add. peace.. I wish peace for us this year.

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Miss piedmont, smith,.

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Yes, thank you, um,. I just wanted to thank councilmember granger for serving as our president in 2018.. It was a difficult year.

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There were many controversial issues and she handled them with grace and with.

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Intelligence and as her vice president.- I really enjoyed serving alongside her.

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Along with our parliamentarian. mr. boland,, and I just wanted to say.

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Thank you very much for your service, we'll be selecting a new president. A little later in the meeting.

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May be the same president,, but in any case I.

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Wanted to thank her for all of her hard work in 2018.

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Mr. chopra,, I.

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Wanted to speak quickly this evening on my announcement that I made over the weekend on sunday that I will not be.

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Seeking a second term on council, though, I am looking forward to finishing this year, strong.

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We have a lot to do and I'm looking forward to being totally present with that in the next year.

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But I wanted to comment that I made the announcement.

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Early,, I believe, because I mean I think, that it was early and I did it because I really want to see a robust.

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Competitive democratic primary and specifically, I want to encourage anyone in district 3, who's interested in running?.

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To really think about it most, especially if you feel that you're not represented on council right now,.

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If you can look up and see the nine people, eight people whatever you want to look at it, people on council and.

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Say I don't think I'm properly represented by race or my gender or my sexual orientation.

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Or even my political beliefs? On council.- I really highly encourage you.

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To run, if you can look up there and say yeah,, those people are like me, we're buddies were all the same.. I.

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Discourage you to run, I feel that part of the reason why I went in for city council is because I didn't see myself.

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Represented me and my family represented on council and.

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I'd be pretty bummed to see, in my mind, council regress in.

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Its diversity, if I were to step down so if anyone is interested in running,, but you don't have to any, have any special qualifications.

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Except for a willingness to work hard and get stuff done., please do reach out to me.

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But in the meantime, I look forward to the next year. thank you.. I.

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Just wanted to show you this interesting duck.

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It's a duck. I found it quacking walking around outside.

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And I'm bringing it up because.

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We're in a post, truth era, where people say things that aren't true.

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This is a duck. If I tell you it's a duck enough.

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Maybe you will really think it's a duck, but of course,. This is a duck.

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So we are in dangerous territory and.

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People are saying things that are not connected to reality.

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And we have to know what a duck is and what a duck isn't. And if somebody wants to give.

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The flat earth people equal time to the round earth people.

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Or the global warming people equal time with the no global warming people.

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This is the trouble that we're in so just remember,.

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If it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

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Well, thank you. mr. stovall.

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Thank you,, I believe we have no council committee reports at this time,. We will move to.

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Public comment: if you would like to speak, if I could see a show of hands.

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Two items not on the agenda.

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Three okay,, so please step to the agenda.

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Print your name., I'm sorry step to the podium.

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Print your name state, your name for the record and mr. boland will be timekeeper.. Thank you.

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Last time I was here, I heard alex crowley suggests that the council needed to subsidize parking.

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Because of all the people who have no choice but to live far from downtown, because they're too poor.

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Y'all weren't fooled right?, you know. Cheap parking downtown is mostly to attract suburbanite from the surrounding region.

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Even though downtown is surrounded by street grid neighborhoods from elm heights to maple heights.

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It seems to be assumed that, in order to survive, downtown has to compete with the whole region to attract choice. Traffic from the suburbs.

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Go ask these people why they choose to live in the suburbs.. One of the top three reasons is.

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Always that they don't want to live near a busy street.

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The irony they drive through my back my front yards that no one will drive through there's.

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This naked sense of entitlement is the lifestyle. You think you have no choice but to subsidize.

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But there are people who are so poor, they have no choice but to live far away.

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Take curry pike, for example, there's trailer parks, scummy apartments, cheap suburbs.

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But absolutely no local amenities.

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The nearby stores are like lowe's, designed exclusively to service a large region at the expense of their local neighborhood.

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These are truly people who have no choice but to drive for every single trip.

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But car ownership is expensive and poverty takes away even that choice. They have to invent an alternative.

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Can you imagine how hard up you would have to be to walk on curry pike?? Do you ever see people walking over there?.

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It's extremely rare.. I looked up fatality statistics for curry pike in 35 years of records.

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I found seven fatalities for those were people cars. Three of them were pedestrians, three out of seven.

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Are there three out of seven users? Are pedestrians now,? I.

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Don't know how to explain to you how stark that ratio is basically,, no one walks out there and still pedestrians make up nearly half of the fatalities.. That's appalling.

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Even though they live out an unwalkable korea pike., they found the alternative that mr. crowley insisted is impossible.

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Instead of driving, they die gruesomely under the wheels of a car.

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What poor people need is not subsidized access to a parking garage, five miles from their homes or poor people need is localized services.

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I'm talking to you, susan sandberg,.

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We can begin right here by prioritizing local traffic downtown the core neighborhoods, including crest mont, are.

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Dense enough and diverse enough to be the backbone for a thriving commercial district.

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We do not need to destroy walkability for the people that live here just to attract wealthy suburban heights, who choose not to.

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Poverty guarantees a baseline level of walking. You can choose to serve those people.

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Or you can choose to people serve people who drive, who respond rationally to incentives that you control.

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You can decide. thank you.

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Please don't forget to sign in thank you. hi,. My name is daniel bingham.

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Trying to have this conversation and five minute increments at public comments a little absurd,, but I will continue.

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So I'm not gonna go back through.

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The stuff I've talked about previously, like the ipcc report and.

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How long we have ten years to respond to climate change??

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I'm going to talk about sort of the remaining question mark that seemed to be hanging in the wake of those comments.

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Which is what do we do about it?

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and some of it. We talked about related to the parking garage, but there's more, we can do than just parking, and but before I get there.

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I had a meeting with mayor hamilton over the holiday break and.

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Discuss this issue with him, and he the position he seemed to take was that we needed to wait for national action on. This was that this was something we couldn't.

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Really deal with locally.

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And I would ask him: what exactly does he think national actions gonna look like.

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It might look like a gas tax.

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Some people have suggested., we need to see $4 a gallon gas again.

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$4, a gallon gas didn't cut it. We need to get half the cars off the road in 10 years.

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If there's gonna do this through a gas tax,, it's gonna be 10 20 30 dollars a gallon gas.! That's what it's gonna take.

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Which means people are gonna need the infrastructure that allows them to not drive and they're gonna need it fast.

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But hopefully we don't do it through a gas ask tax or if congress is silly enough to try, they get.

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Our equivalent of the yellow s protests, that's what those were in response to was a progressive gas tax.

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In which case, it's more likely to take the form.

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Money for us to change our infrastructure.

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It's gonna be expertise to help us change our infrastructure. At the end of the day,.

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We still need to change the infrastructure to allow people to not drive.

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That is the only choice before us. We can wait two years to get the national money.

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But then we've only got eight years, he left to make the move or we can start now because we have so little time.

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After one of the parking garage meetings, I had a brief conversation with alex crowley in the hall and pressed him on this and.

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He pointed to seattle as the like gold standard of.

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Handling climate in the u.s., I would disagree with that characterization, but I would also say that, even if seattle is the gold standard they're nowhere near.

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Where we need to be the closest on the planet is copenhagen.

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They've gotten the number of car trips down to. I think it's 35 percent of all trips happen by car.

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The rest are transit and the vast majority, something like forty five to fifty percent, are by bike.

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They did it. they've done it.. They they've shown that it's possible.

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But it took them 40 years to get there.

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We can model our infrastructure off of theirs and we can start moving now.

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But we've got a quarter of the time it took them to.

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Get half our cars off our streets or to find ways to subsidize people into electric cars,, but to me,. That seems a bit of.

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Bigger challenge and folly we're gonna be far more effective. if we get people out of cars than if we try to get them into electric cars.

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Transportation is one section and making the infrastructure changes.

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We can look to copenhagen and we can look to what other cities in town in the u.s.

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Are doing we can you know,, add bike lanes. we can remove parking to create room for bike lanes and bus lanes.

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Take streets. take cars off cars off of streets entirely, except for local traffic.

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There are a number of cities in spain that have done this and again when cities do this.

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I'm sure that a lot of businesses here, because they've never encountered.

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This will say: that's going to hurt our bottom line, where cities have done it.

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It hasn't hurt the bottom lines: people walking a more likely to window-shop. they're, more likely to go into a store.. It usually helps business.

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Aside from transportation, we can get creative with how we get people off the coal fueled electric grid.

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We did the the wholesale solar buy, which is a great first step,, but only helps people who have that down payment.

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We could be just putting solar panels on people's roofs and letting them pay them back through their utility bills.

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We could fund a program where you apply. You pay no downpayment.

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We put, we buy the solar panels for you and put them on your roof, and then you pay us back through your.

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Utility bills, they'll pay back the solar panels over their lives and we can get the panels on people's roofs.

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We can get the electricity on the grid, offsetting coal, electricity.

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I'm sure there are other approaches we could take. Other cities, burlington is on 100% renewable, a republican mayor city.

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Recently, either made a pledge or made the move to a hundred percent renewable.

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We can look to these cities to see how they did it,, but we have to move.

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We've got 10 years and the reality is, we've probably got less than that, because the ipcc is.

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Consistently underestimated what climate change is going to do if we keep ignoring this?.

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The next generation are the ones who are going to suffer and.

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They're you know, a lot of them can't speak for themselves.

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They're too young to come up here and speak., so we have to do this for them.

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Thank you. thank you.. Mr. bingham was there.

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My kids, I'm 70, now mark haggerty and.

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So I what witnessed this.

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This rise into power that I helped begin.

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Back in the very earliest 70s- and I see the things that people have brought up tonight,.

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Bring up these some fundamental questions so that does this council really represent this community.? I.

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Know where y'all live, everybody.

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And I know we have a lot of people that are from suburbia and I live here in town.

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We have a lot of people from iu, but for me I you, as the enemy they're the big corporation that wants to take over and ruin my downtown ruin. My artists community turn this into a.

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Corporate gentrification that.

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Where these rich kids take over what the homeless had two years ago and the homeless are run out by threat.

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Because if the cops get you tonight,, it's really cold.

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Taking into jail when you get back out all your stuffs gonna be gone., that's all your cooking stuff and everything.. You need to live.

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All the stuff you have in the garbage, bags. there's so many people out living out here homeless now.

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You all aren't aware of you are all aren't aware of who's in the jail.

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Who we are keeping in the jail and the conditions that they're under and really how many people are really in the jail? That.

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We're not responding to this. We've got five acres under roof on south rogers.

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That we could commandeer anytime., we don't need to have a criminal justice system that.

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Hurts people during this action. we want to reform people, that's what the constitution says and.

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We're not doing that here. Our very criminal justice system is not reforming people, it's making people worse when they get out, and it's not treating people and the more money that my government gets. The.

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Worse, they do and they're democrats it's been obama that was sending drones all over the middle east and everywhere.

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We've got shooting wars all over that.. We haven't opposed those things under obama.

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I've spoken about those drones and the.

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Idea that you can come in here with with winchester's and we have bow and arrows really stirs up, the local local population for generations leaves a.

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Cultural trauma on a whole people and creates this thing. We call terrorism that we're so afraid of.

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We're not addressing that and I find that the corruption that donald trump.

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Has brought and this perversion of the truth and.

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The people that are willing to believe it doesn't just happen at the white house.. It permeates my very community.

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Many of the people that voted for trump have voted out a desperation when I see chuck schumer and nancy pelosi.

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Doing press conferences after this thing., I think, oh, my god,, what a disaster, what people that cannot represent me at all.

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Perhaps cortes or sanders, but for god's sake,.

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This dying democratic party needs some infusion of real ideas in some court of intimacy.

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We talk about diversity. The diversity. I want to see on this out. Council is economic.. I.

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Don't care about the race or the gender and stuff like that.

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Ethnicity is not as important to me as economic.

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Diversity, because the people I know are suffering in their poor.

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You're, my friends you're my neighbors. I.

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Would like to establish some sort of real communication and credibility.

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You seeing no more public comment at this time,. I believe believe we have a couple of disclosures of conflict of interest.

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Disclose a possible conflict under.

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Municipal code, at tonight's committee of the whole meeting, the council will discuss resolution 1902, which is an extension of the bloomington.

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Urban enterprise zone for five years.

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State statute allows certain tax incentives to businesses and residents of enterprise zones and one of the.

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Benefits is that zone residents who also work in the zone for certain employers, including political subdivisions like the city.

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Can receive a state income tax deduction of up to $7,500?.

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Under local code, I wish to declare that I do live in the enterprise zone and my work as a city council member makes me eligible for this tax deduction.

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However, my consideration of resolution 1902 is not going to be shaped by that condition that circumstance.

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Instead, I'm going to be considering the resolution through an analysis of the social and economic good that can be realized for businesses and residents of the zone as a whole.

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For that reason, I can participate fairly objectively and in the public interest. I.

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Live in the enterprise zone and that my work for the city makes me eligible for the enterprise deduction.

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However, my consideration of resolution 1902 is not shaped by this deduction. Benefit,, which has pre existed.

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Before I became a council member instead, my consideration and vote will be informed by an analysis of a social and economic good that may be realized.

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For businesses and residents if the zone is renewed in a five-year period, for that reason, I can participate fairly and objectively.

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And in the public interest and if you're listening, you should make sure that you take advantage of this tax deduction.

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You live in the zone.

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Thank you, are there any questions of my.

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And we just do both voice vote, mr. sherman.

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To accept these, and may we just do okay, all in favor say I have accepting the disclosures?.

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Any opposed, thank you very much at this time we are going to elect officers and I'm willing to.

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Take a nomination.

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Mr. dave rallo as council president.: do you want to nominate a slate or do you just want to.

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Sure,, I can do that. I'd also like to nominate dorothy granger, as vice president.

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Thank you, thank you.. Thank you.

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Any discussion all in favor say aye.

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Any opposed thank you., so at this time we're going to take a few minutes and do a little bit of shuffling. While we.

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We don't play friday. This is the.

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That's our backyard.

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Okay, I'd like to return the the regular session meeting for the common council of bloomington on january 9th,, 2019 and.

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First, I'd like to say that the the seating chart reflects the preference of the council members, this year. and so.

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That was made just earlier today.

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Before we begin follow our agenda., I would like to say thank you for.

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To our officers of last year,.

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Isabelle and dorothy you've gotten this through a lot of significant legislation.

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Sometimes difficult, sometimes enjoyable. I.

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Think, yes, enjoyable and, and it really took a lot of inclusiveness.

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Care in scheduling and allowing everyone deliberations. in fact finding- and I think that was very.

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Very helpful to us, and I think I can speak on behalf of the council. Thank you and with regard to that, I.

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Baked some cookies no,, I they're not cookies no, oh,, but don't open it., it kind of gives it away. If you look at the title. yeah,, I.

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Wrapped it myself.

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And I would like to thank dorothy, granger and steve olin for staying on in the coming year.

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So, let's, let's move now to.

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Council committees, appointments.

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Well,, I understand that by my action. I'll, appoint the following.

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Which is the jack hopkins social service funding committee?, which has five members? And this year, allison chopra.

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Dorothy granger is about piedmont, smith and andy. Andy ruff and susan and sandburg will serve on that committee.

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Allison chopra will should serve as chair.

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Council sidewalk committee for members which regards the 2020 funds in the coming year, funds dorothy. granger, will be service chair.

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Jim sims, myself and christopher vaughn will serve.

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Council land use committee for members, steve olin, will chair that allison chopra chris turboman, isabelle, piedmont, smith will serve and.

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The council interview committees for citizen appointments to boards and commissions.

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I understand will remain as they have been. Is that mine. is that the consensus very good,, okay.

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So that takes care of actions by president.. So, let's move to appointments to.

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Various commissions boards.

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Susan sandburg be named to the social services.

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Citizens, advisory committee for community development block grants and that andy rough be named to the physical improvements.

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Portion of the sit ins advisory committee for cdbg.

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Thank you. he's one at a time or do do them all as a slate.

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We could do it as a slate.. Could we not?.

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Weigh council member to the appointment to the commissioner of bloomington downtown chris turbine.

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To the economic development commission for the city, dave rallo,.

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To the economic development commission for the county, alison chopra to the environmental resource advisory committee, dorothy granger.

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To the metropolitan planning organization, andy ruff.

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To the planned commission, susan sandburg to the solid waste management, district, isabelle, piedmont, smith,.

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To the board of the urban enterprise association, chris stir bomb to the utilities service board, ex-officio jim sims.

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To the bloomington economic development corporation, jim sims, to the bloomington commission on sustainability, dave rallo to the parking commission, steve olin.

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To the public safety, local income tax allocation committee, dorothy granger, isabel piedmont, smith, jim sims and allyson chopra.

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I really look for a second.

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Thank you., so that will be our slate.. Is there any discussion?.

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Ok,, it's been moved in second and do we need a roll call, or can we have a voice vote?.

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Please foot., okay, all in favor., say aye aye, any opposed.

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Okay,, that's late., we'll pass them.

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Appointment teddy mauer to the bloomington commission on sustainability as a reappointment.

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Okay, I have four others.. Should I do them all together? yes, these are reappointments or they mean they're reappointment. yes.. Yes,.

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I moved for the reappointment of gavin everett gavin everett to the commission on hispanic and latino affairs.

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I move reappointment of shawna meier niedermann to the commission on the status of children and youth.

C

And george hegeman to the tree commission and finally amanda burnham to the utilities service board.

D

Thank you,, so we've had a motion in a second all in favor of the appointments, say: aye aye.

C

D

Okay.! Congratulations to all those reappointed. Members.

D

H

Commission we nominate james schultz.

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Urban enterprise, association, matthew, cole,.

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Commission on aging jack on housing, quality appeals board, suzi hamilton, diana paola, pata public transportation, commission alex cartwright can't mcdaniel.

D

Is there a second okay motions been made and seconded for those appointments, all in favor., say aye.

D

Any opposed, congratulations to those members and thanks to team.

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A3 for recommendations for reappointment.

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Marc strasbourg to the bike and ped safety commission.

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Seth deborah to the commission on the status of black males.

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Lindsay hummel to the environmental commission and james sanders to the martin luther king.

A

Junior birthday, commission.

D

All right, all in favor, say aye aye any opposed.

D

Okay., congratulations to those members.. Are there any other nominations?.

D

The boards or commissions.

D

Okay,, I think that then concludes item 5 election of officers.

D

Let's move now hopes and appointments to boards and commissions as well.. It's moved to legislation for first reading parliamentarian.

F

Introduced and read by title and synopsis only second. okay., it's been moved and seconded all in favor., say: aye aye, aye.

D

Any opposed will the clerk please read?.

B

Ordinance 1901 an ordinance to amend ordinance 1818, which fix the salaries of appointed officers.

B

Non-Union and asked me employees for all the departments of the city of bloomington and monroe county, indiana for the year.

B

2019 regarding to reflect changes due to the execution of a work agreement between the city of bloomington.

B

24 87 cb me asks me and also changes affecting three additional job titles.

B

The synopsis is as follows: this ordinance amends ordinance, 18 18, which sets the maximum salary for all appointed officers, non-union and asked me.

B

Employees for all the departments of the city of bloomington, indiana in 2019.

B

The changes reflect the terms of a new four-year collective bargaining agreement between the city and.

B

Asked me and also includes changes affecting three additional job titles unrelated to the collective bargaining agreement.

D

Thank you kirk. Mr. chair,, I moved that ordinance 1903 be introduced in red by title and synopsis. Only.

D

Thank you,, we have a motion and second will the clerk. Please read.

B

Ordinance 1903 to amend title aid of the bloomington municipal code, entitled historic preservation and protection.

B

To establish a historic district regarding the maple heights conservation district.

B

Maple hood heights will maple heights neighborhood association, petitioner?.

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The synopsis is as follows: this ordinance amends the list of designated historic districts in chapter 8, 1, 2, 0 of.

B

The city of bloomington municipal code, by establishing the maple heights conservation district in.

B

Recommending this designation, the bloomington historic preservation, commission.

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Conducted a survey held public hearings and submitted a map and accompanying report to the council.

B

The map sets forth the boundaries of the district and the classification of buildings within the district.

B

The report demonstrates how this district meets the necessary criteria, a.

B

Conservation district is, in general, less restrictive than a full historic district and.

B

Requires only the review of proposals to demolish or move buildings or construct new principal or accessory buildings.

B

At the end of three years after adoption of this ordinance.

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This conservation district will elevate into a full historic district unless within 180 and.

B

60 days before that date, a majority of the property owners provide the commission with written objections to the elevation.

D

Thank you. Clerk bolton.

F

Mr. chair,, I move that ordinance 1905 or be introduced in red light island synopsis only.

F

It's been moved and seconded. will the clerk please read?.

F

All in favor. say aye aye.

D

Any opposed will the clerk please read.

B

Coordinates 1904 to amend title 8 of the bloomington municipal code, entitled historic preservation and protection to.

B

Establish a historic district regarding 1175, south smith, road, historic district.

B

The harvey nelson house james and sally harvey petitioner. the synopsis is as follows:.

B

This ordinance amends title aid of the bloomington municipal code, entitled historic preservation and protection in order to designate.

B

The harvey nelson house, 11 75 south smith, road as a historic district.

B

James and sally harvey sought this action and after a public hearing on december 13.

B

2017, the historic preservation commission recommended that the structures be designated historic, with a rating as contributing based upon certain.

B

Historical and architectural criteria set forth in chapter.

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8.08 of the bloomington municipal code, entitled historic districts, conservation districts and standards.

B

Historic designation of a property under title 8 provides for the commission or staff to approve a certificate of appropriateness.

B

Before conspicuous changes to the exterior of sites and structures may be made, and thereby helps assure that the historic significance of property.

B

D

Thank you. That concludes legislation for first reading and if there are people here who would like to speak to those later, we'll have a committee of the whole.

D

Following a regular session chaired by susan sandburg, and those will be heard at that time,.

D

So we'll move now to legislation for second reading and resolutions.

F

Mr. president, I moved that ordinance, 1901 be introduced and read by title and synopsis. Only second., it's been moved and seconded that.

D

Reson ordinance 1901 be introduced and read by the clerk waits.

F

Join,, mr. I had to do that. First, don't I: I need to move that.

F

I move that the council introduce and consider ordinance 1901 for adoption at the same meeting. and on the same that as it a.

A

Second second. mr. sherman, huh two-thirds vote.

F

Or unanimous vote.

O

Okay, and then, when it gets to passage, it'll require two-thirds majority.

O

So unanimous, unanimous consent at this point in the agenda.

O

Okay,, so we'll need a voice. What we'll need a roll call vote for them? The motions debatable and amendable. all right.

D

Okay,, has it been seconded? yes,, okay,.

D

Anyone have questions or comments on introducing and hearing this item this evening.

F

This is about the aspie contract.

D

Yes,: okay, seeing no, yes,, yes comes member pdwhite smith.

C

The reason that we are both introducing and.

C

Discussing and potentially voting on this matter on the same evening is so that the ask me employees.

C

Can receive their pay increases with the first payroll of.

C

2019, so that was our reason for rushing this one,, but we will talk about it.

C

Momentarily,, of course, when and you'll have public comment, if this motion passes.

D

Thank you for that clarification, so seeing no comment or debate, then we'll call the roll on that motion.

B

Councilmember ruff chopra.

B

Piedmon smith., yes, granger.; yes, rallo., yes, vohland., yes, simms. yes,! Mr. baum.

B

Sandberg, thank you. 9 0, 9 0. It is adopted.. So now we'll move to legislation for first reading.

D

F

Already, you've already introduced it.. The clerk has not read the synopsis.

D

So, let's proceed with that: well, actually, all in favor of its it was done, so she can do him. very good.. Thank you.

B

Building ordinance 1901 in ordinance to amend ordinance 1818, which fixed the salaries of appointed officers.

B

Non-Union and asked me employees for all the departments of the city of bloomington monroe, county, indiana for the year 2019.

B

Regarding to reflect changes due to the execution of a work agreement between the city of bloomington and local 224, 87 cb.

B

Me asked me and also changes affecting three additional job titles.

B

The synopsis is as follows: this ordinance amends ordinance 1818, which set the maximum salary for all appointed officers.

B

Non-Union and asked me employees for all the departments of the city of bloomington in.

B

2019 the changes reflect the terms of a new four-year collective bargaining agreement between the city and ask me, and also include changes affecting three additional job titles unrelated to the collective bargaining.

B

Agreement, you do not have a committee recommendation for this work.

D

Thank you, clerk.

P

My name is caroline shaw and the hr director and first of all,. I just like to thank you so much for accommodating us on this app's me.

P

Primarily and asked me changes to our sally ordinance. As you know, if we were negotiating a long time last year,.

P

The bargaining team from asks me and our administrative team worked very hard and the final.

P

Contract went to vote with our ask me: membership in.

P

Early december and then I believe the final signature went to the contract on december 26.

P

So,, thank you so much for accommodating this. This will allow us to garum, please their pay rates, pay increases in the very first check of 2015 as.

P

Councilmember piedmont smith said. I appreciate this very much.

P

So this is a lot to cover. There are a couple of minor changes.

P

So I will go through slowly and happy to answer questions at the end.. The first couple of changes are.

P

Things I'm just slipping in there minor changes, but it's the like an efficient thing to do to add to minor changes to the salary, ordinance change and.

P

The position of applications support security specialists, which is formerly a great seventh position. In the it s, department was modified to better fit the needs of the department and it was renamed and.

P

Regraded, it is now the accounts and training specialist, which is a grade five in the fiscal impact of this is actual decrease of five thousand seven hundred two dollars.

P

Miss shaw, if you would hold on just for a second.. I.

F

The president and the vice and counsel appearance with the right. we didn't move to adopt.

F

Which requires two-thirds vote?. I thought that that came at the end of the ordinance. We have to move to adopt.

O

That's what I thought yeah, okay,, but I thought there was a motion. Look okay,. We just gotta get the procedure. Right?, never mind.

F

Carry on, let's do something., we don't normally do.. We don't do this very often.. So thank you all.

P

Okay, so I changed the I ts position and then, as we've talked about.

P

Eliminating labor's, adding more master mode equipment operators was an anticipated outcome from the sanitation monarchs.

P

Mana modernization project, public works, sanitation would like to eliminate one laborer full-time, a.

P

Full-Time position at and add one meo fte. The fiscal impact of this is an increase of approximately twelve hundred seventy dollars and.

F

Meo is what please it's a master.

P

Master motor equipment operator.

F

Thank you., so this will allow more people to drive trucks.

P

And this will continue to happen over time.. It's a natural change at this point.

P

Okay,, I will go, I'm gonna go on to the other. Changes now are all related to the abs me contract and I'll begin reviewing.

P

P

This amendment reflects the following changes in accordance with the recently agreed upon work, agreement and.

P

The memorandum, understanding from the city of bloomington and local 24 87.

P

Some of the first changes are just title changes as you've, probably may recall over the last few months years.

P

I've tried to clean our salary ordinances in these more general, neutral, neutral, language., so working foremen.

P

Oh,, this is not that well working foreman in parks and rec and.

P

Utilities purchasing will now be a working for a person.

P

Kennel worker in the public works animal control, care and.

P

I'm sorry., I thought I just get something so the kennel worker and the public works. Animal care and control will now be an animal care technician as their.

P

Requirements that they have in those roles are much more technical than they used to be, and this grade also changed from 103 to 106.

P

The physical impact of that is approximately forty eight hundred dollars in the public works fleet, an.

P

Apprentice master mechanic will now be an apprentice master technician, master tech.

P

Technician, in addition, the shop foreman will be changed. A shop for person.

P

There is no change to pay grades and no fiscal impact on these. It is again, just making more appropriate.

P

Titles for these jobs, there two title changes the utilities, transmission and distribution.

P

Alignment is now aligned person and the plant maintenance mechanic apprentice.

P

Mechanic is now a lift station mechanic apprentice, lift station mechanic., it's a mouthful so.

P

Those are the those are the non-financial changes and.

P

So the pay rate for labor trades and crafts in section two c has been replaced.

P

We reflects a 2019 increase of 2 percent.

P

These salary increases over the next four years will cost additional eighteen hundred sixty five.

P

Million dollars and the twenty twenty percent increase as.

P

Dictated by the contract., it's two point: two: five percent and twenty twenty one.. It's two point: five percent and twenty two twenty two.

P

It's two point: five percent, so this salary ordinance is really just about the 2019 changes and that's why I thought I would throw that in as additional information.

P

P

Okay, next changes the on call status, pay noted in section two f of the salary ordinance increased from $35 to $40 and.

P

The fiscal impact is an increase of eight thousand eight hundred thirty four dollars.

P

The tool allowance reimbursement is increasing by five hundred dollars and.

P

This additional increase: it's going to cost approximately four thousand dollars in 2019.

P

Section two: I has been revised with increased premiums.

P

To the following certifications, designations and licenses in the overall fiscal impact of all of these were 2019 is about.

P

$120,000 there's a lot of them I'll go through them in detail and I'm happy again to answer questions at the end, the wastewater plant operators receive $1.00 per hour.

P

Instead of $0.50 per hour for obtaining a class 1 certification.

P

The operators would receive a class 2 certification still receive and a dollar fifty per hour. The class three.

P

They'll receive $2 per hour and the class four. they'll receive 250 an hour.

P

And this is an increase from additional 33 cents per hour for each certification received after a class. One.

P

Line persons will receive an additional $1 per hour instead of $0.50 per hour for obtaining and maintaining dsl certification.

P

That's a certification that they had to work really hard to achieve, and.

P

Transportation t&d getting our employees trained in that regard,.

P

The license premiums for list station mechanics plant means mechanics and apprentices in those roles increased from 33 cents, an hour to $1.00 per hour.

P

Over all available license premiums for water plant operators increase from a max of a dollar 99 per hour to maximum $5 per hour.

P

Operator in training water, water plant operators will receive additional $2 per hour instead of 50 cents and.

P

After one year of service, this will increase to $3 per hour, which is up from 83 cents per hour. Those with the wt file received $5.00 per hour.

P

Which is an increase of a dollar 16 per hour? And I would just like to add.

P

Waste or water plant operators have been very hard for us to recruit and it's a very critical role.

P

They serve it's a very lot of extra training and.

P

Ability to pass really difficult tests. Our salary study that we did showed.

P

That we weren't paying in market and these license changes helped.

P

These rates that we've changed on the licenses for these these jobs, in particular.

P

Reflect the recommendation of the salary ordinance.

P

Okay, and unlike prior years line persons.

P

Master motor equipment operators, lift station of mechanics and laborers.

P

Who are not required to hold a dsl or a class to collection systems will receive an additional 50 cents per hour for each nonce.

P

Required certification we're getting close to the end.. I promise it's a lot.

P

Cdl license premiums increased from 20 cents per hour for a class speed of 30 cents and.

P

From 30 cents per hour from a class a to 50 cents,.

P

Fleet maintance mechanics fleet maintenance, certification premiums, increase from 6 cents per hour for each certification of 20 cents, breed certification and.

P

Miscellaneous certification pay increase from 10 cents per hour to 20 cents per hour, and three new.

P

Certifications are added in this contract. In addition, the filing the following certifications have been added to this list, a.

P

Registered pesticide technician, the certified pesticide applicator and a tree risk assessment, certification.

P

That's the summary of all the changes to certifications and licenses, and then I.

P

Get cut off, here. no,, I'm good. ok, and then some other minor changes a night and swing shift premiums increased in section, 2, j.

P

Evening or night shifts, you'll receive sixty five cents as if he, since seven cents per hour and.

P

Swing shift employees shall receive seventy cents per hour instead of sixty three cents per hour.

P

This represents an increase of two thousand seven hundred twelve dollars.

P

And section 2, 0 or 2 o rather explains $100 reimbursement for employees are who we got required to have cdls.

P

Commercial driver's licenses and we've been paying you're reimbursing you for the physicals for commercial driver's license.

P

This is for our employees for the last couple years, but we put in the contract just to solidify it and then finally, section 2 p has been added which such a contract ratification.

P

Bonus of 2 a few dollars to each ass, remember on december 1st, between 19 and.

P

Fiscal proximate pencil impact of that is $40,000,, and I forgot to mention when I first said, thank you.

P

The union president steve robertson, who's with us here, tonight?, I believe, and I think he mender both wanted to express their appreciation for your accommodating this schedule.

P

And I'm happy to take questions at this time.

P

Thank you, mr. shaw: are there questions from council on ordinance, 19 and 0? One.

D

G

Yes, are all asking employees, then going to always be paid a living wage.

G

They all have already do they had it all. Over. yes. thank you.. Yes,.

D

Councilmember granger.

A

Michele we had put aside or put into the 2019 budget.

A

250,000 to I think that was the amount to deal with the.

A

Differences and the salary study. mm-hmm. so does this know that's a different pattern?.

P

I mean that money is set for a different group of employees., that was for the nanyan employees.

P

So there's the salary adjust salary studies show that they needed market adjustments sure,, and that could be here too money.

P

Thank you cut summer, piedmont, smith, a.

C

Little more about the contract ratification bonus,! This is something that I can very unusual to me.. I don't think it's apparently it's not that unusual with other.

P

Contracts and other places., I think it's maybe new to us.- is that safe to say if she does okay.

P

So, um,, so the language on that says anyone who?.

P

Was an employee of ours under this double check on december 1st.

P

Anyone who was an employee of ours at the time the contract was approved, on?.

P

January 1 of this year will receive additional bonus on december 4 at under $50 bonus on december 1st of 2019 and.

P

And so if an employee leaves who was an employee,, so one of our employees was here on january 1st.

P

And then leaves employment is promoted to not or a non absent position.

P

They will not qualify,, but anyone who was here as of january 1st.

P

And who was asked to be an esteemed position at this point and then it's still in that position in.

P

On december, 1st will receive additional $250.

P

The one-time bonus for the first year, I was repeating on president steve roberts., okay, said in the back.

M

Q

Said it's a one-time bonus and it's only the first year of the contract and please introduce your rest to the contract or I I.

D

Didn't mean to interrupt you,, please introduce yourself, I'm steve robertson and I'm president of local 24, 87, asked me to say: bluey didn't.

Q

C

Thank you,, okay, any other questions comes member simms.

E

Go impacto both.

P

Excuse me., I think it's around 120,000 for 2019 and when I calculate the physical just for the ratification bonuses.

P

Thousand dollars., I'm sorry., I didn't understand your question. no,. That's that's around $40,000.

P

Assuming we have the same exact employees that we have currently with january first, on december, 1st.

P

And we you likely want, I mean employees, get promoted, they take on different roles., they move to other places to work.

P

So I think that's the most of it be.

E

Okay,, how did that come about?? I mean,. We don't begrudge anything that they earn, but this is new.

E

I believe, let's work with other unions., not just not really. I believe that was old.

P

I know that was proposed to us by the absentee contract negotiation team and.

P

I would say was actually a compromise to an initial original proposal, which was kind of a annual bonus.

P

Q

We was close on getting the contract passed and we just try and pull extra in to get to passed and.

Q

Our negotiating team asked me present this to the management's negotiating team and.

Q

We negotiate on this because we brought the table higher amount than what this was.

Q

And we negotiated back and forth till we come up with agreement of the.

Q

250 does that answer your question I?.

E

Guess I'm just wondering how it came about. I don't did we.

E

Q

Our counsel, is that part of the association contracts for lawn cities?.

Q

And this is stuff that they see at other cities that they know you go.. She ate contracts with and that's how it comes out.

Q

That's how unions operate as they.

Q

Negotiate contracts and.

Q

It's try to get wording in the contract and this is a one-time deal we put in.

Q

It's long., it's good for one year.. It's always good for.

Q

Okay, did that set some sort of a precedent?.

E

So we're gonna hear this for the next several years, maybe as part of the.

E

Negotiation if and I know, there's I know for honor's we're here. yeah.

Q

Okay,, but I will hear it again baby if I'm here.

E

Yeah,. Thank you very much.

D

Further questions, councilman, pete, owens, memphis.

C

Yeah,, I have a question about the night and swing shifts.. It looks like.

C

The pay is more for a swing shift than for a night shift.

C

And I, this is just an educational thing because to me, I'd rather work a swing shift, because the night shift is, you know.

C

When your body wants to be sleeping, so is this typical? I mean that's. The way is that, to my knowledge, though?, it's the way it's been for years.

P

And so when we adjusted those rates,, so we just suggests that then, accordingly, it's the same amount.. I believe we adjusted each one.

P

That's a good guy., we're all different though, right? we're all different. I'd. Rather do the same as you I'd love to sleep at night.

P

But I'm not sure why it's that way.! It's a good question.

P

I should go back and look historically when it was first in crete, our setup that way and former contracts.. Mr.

C

Robertson,, do you have anything to add as far as why the.

C

The swing shift gets paid more than the night shift.

Q

Because the swing shift, you could be working a night shift and then you turn right around working on a day shift.

Q

That's what a swing shift is you feel in where it needs to be feeling?, not sure if you're sent to a night shift.

Q

But swing shift, you could be working night shift this day and the next day you could be working the day shift.

Q

That's why it's called a swing shift.. I.

C

Thought it was called a swing shift because you start in the afternoon and.

Q

The swing shift, it's an it's plan. Operators with you, has a swing circle and that's why it boils down to.

Q

They filled in where they need to fill if it's a day shift or night shift.

Q

They just hey swinging back and forth from night to ship, today. well, that would be hard.. Okay,.

C

So yeah, I knew I would learn something. Definitely, a lack of consistency is hard. I would think.

P

Thank you. I didn't realize president. robertson would be a.

P

Associate of mine this evening.. Thank you.

P

I'm glad he's here.

D

Let's see. we're selling questions any other questions. I had one.

D

The deliberation or I should say the.

D

Negotiations took a long time, and do you want to describe it a little bit about the process?, and so we tried something new. This time?.

P

We're doing that police as well instead of meeting in fact,, so my first set of contracts with the fire contracts in 2016.

P

We met weekly for a couple hours at a time over the course of many many weeks and.

P

We heard that bloomington transit at the same time., we were doing the fire contract.. Did they retreat?.

P

With their their anything, or ask me to.

P

So they did a retreat and within three days they had a contract in place.

P

So we thought, let's try that and thankfully asked me was willing to try that with us.

P

So we had a three-day retreat and I think we came back. We didn't finish.

P

So, as you can see this a cop located contract there's a this, is a player hardest contract, so many details.

P

And so we came back after a three-day, a retreat, and I think we came back for two days or one day we came back for one or two days and had a meeting in I believe july and.

P

I believe they took that went to vote after that meeting.

P

We then had came up with a contract that went to vote and to our surprise.. It was voted down by the membership.

P

So we hit the drawing board again back in november., I believe, or early december and.

P

Asked me and steve under his leadership where they set it up, so they could have another quick contract vote right after that.

P

So it may have felt like a long time,, but I think it was probably more efficient because of the.

P

They retreat style and because we were all focused, we didn't, we didn't bring her other work with us.

P

We just focused on getting a contract in place.

D

Okay. thanks for that. mr. robinson., do you want to add anything else or is that?.

D

Kind of sum it up., it sounds like it was very complex.. There was a lot of moving parts.

D

Um, there was a new experience for both of us on the three-day retreat.

Q

It was something new we tried it.

Q

And I think it's beneficial., we spent three hard days coming up with what we could and.

Q

I think it worked out real great and I appreciate the mayor's.

Q

Negotiating team for working across the table with us. they did a wonderful job with us. mmm good, that's good to hear.. Thank you.

D

Great,, if there's no other questions, we'll move to the public public has.

D

Any comments on ordinance 1901, please step to the mic.

D

Seeing no public walk back to council for comment., yes, council, member sandberg, we'll start.

R

Experiencing a government shutdown and the really serious consequences that are going to result from that.

R

I think this is a time to be grateful here in the city of bloomington, for.

R

The individuals that provide our basic services, I take that responsibility very seriously.

R

We have a lot of demands for our time and our tension and our resources.

R

But the individuals who are working in public works who are working in these departments,, who are the.

R

Assateague membership are the ones that we owe a debt of gratitude for keeping the wheels on the bus. Turning.

R

And when you don't have your trash picked up and the garbage is accruing.

R

You just don't know how bad things can get, and so, when the snow it, when we have snowy conditions.

R

We've not experienced much of that this winter,, but we will why I think this weekend we might be tested a little bit.

R

But thank you to you, sir, for your leadership as president.

R

I've asked me and for all the individuals that are working with you for the city of bloomington., we appreciate it.

D

Thank you, councilmember sandburg,. I'll. Go to council.- mr. baum.

H

Good negotiating difficult, but good faith,, and I think that we can do it.. It shows other people can do it and.

H

There can be good government.. Thank you.

D

Thank you. Other comment comes my work. People at smith.

C

Yes, um,, I wanted to note that these salary increases and increases for.

C

Certifications and such that are reflected in this contract were not in the budget that we passed for 2019 and.

C

It's a substantial amount of money. So, of course, I emailed our controller jeff underwood and said well.

C

How are we going to pay for this, and he assured me that, for various reasons, he was not worried about that.

C

Partially, it's because they're paid from different funds, a lot of the employees are.

C

For city of bloomington utilities, and so they have the the wastewater in the water.

C

Utilities that have different funds, so it's not like the whole burden will fall into the general fund of the city.

C

Also, last year,, we had three point: nine million dollars in reversions from 2017. that was money.

C

That was not spent, that was budgeted. and so.

C

The controller is optimistic that we will have enough we're versions from 2019 to cover these extra expenses.

C

That are reflected in this contract,, so we'll probably.

C

Take a few months to shake out and see.

C

How much more we need to appropriate, but I I feel better after having communicated with mr. hunter. what about it? and.

C

That we will have funds available to make good on this promise. This contract.

D

Thank you for your comment, other comments.

D

Seeing no other comments. I'd like just like to say, congratulations.

D

It's a long process but looks great.. So it's a recommendation.

F

That council adopt ordinance 1901 this evening. This motion requires a second is.

F

Debatable and amenable and requires a 2/3 majority to pass.

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Okay,, that's been moved and seconded.

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Is there are there any questions?

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concerns? Okay, then we will go to roll call vote on.

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Ordinance 1901 and then we need a two-thirds majority.

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Yes, yes, ranger, yes, rallo. yes,, bolan., yes,.

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Yes, turbo sandburg, ruff,, yeah.

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Thank you, organs 1901 is adopted unanimously.

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Thank you very much.

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Okay,, we will now go to additional public comment, we've reserved 20 minutes. If anyone would who hasn't spoken tonight would like to step to the microphone and.

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Have your say, please, step forward?.

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You'll have a chance on items in our next meeting. At the time of those we hear them. okay, we'll go to now to counsel scheduled.

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Some you want to raise with the rest of the council.

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Anyone have any issues., yes, just a to verify our next meetings for january.. We have a.

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Regular session next week, followed by committee of the whole on.

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The 23rd. yes, and then a regular session on the 30th or on february.

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The first wednesday in february. okay., so there last friday last wednesday and january, is no meeting.

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It's currently scheduled., however, we have received the comprehensive the.

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Transportation plan as an amendment to the comprehensive plan and.

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You know looking at doing that on that day, council leadership. We intend to introduce that at the regular session next week.

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Where would be subject to a motion either to referral to land use committee or some other mechanism?.

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I just wanted to know that so we're gonna use that spare date to start thinking about it.

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You will you'll be able to do that.. The decision will be made next wednesday, the 16th.. Thank you.

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Thank you any other questions or comments. A better schedule, okay, seeing none. we'll need a motion to adjourn all in favor., say: aye, aye, we're adjourned and we'll reconvene in a moment for committee of the whole.. Oh.

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And since we have already dispatched with ordinance.

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1901, we will begin this evening with the discussion on ordinance.

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1903 to amend title 8 of the bloomington municipal code, entitled historic preservation and protection to.

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Establish a historic district regarding the maple heights conservation district and with us to present this evening is connor.

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Hendrick welcome sir, and thank you.

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Connor herder: it's I'm the preservation program manager with hand.

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Here, to give a presentation on ordinance, 1903 to men, title 8 to establish the maple heights conservation district.

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So what you see up here right now is the actually a sanborn mapped earliest sanborn map.

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We have 1907 1907, showing the southern portion of maple heights., it's just a north of the railroad tracks. There.

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You can see that in 1907. there was some buildings there in the neighborhood and.

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The yellow coloring indicates wood., so those are wooden structures there in 1907.

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This is the maple heights boundary maps of the boundary. The district is roughly bounded on the north by.

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Properties on west 15th, except for three properties that extend half a block north of west 16th along the east side of north jackson, street. On.

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The east, by a few properties on the east side of north madison street, on the.

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Southeast by the indiana railroad tracks, from madison to maple street.

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And on the west, by the backyard property lines of parcels on the west side of north maple street.

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Starting in the 700 block and ending in the 900 block.

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The city of bloomington uses historic surveys that identify properties that may be worthy of historic, designation.

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The survey rates properties is being non, contributing, contributing.

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Notable or outstanding.

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Within the maple heights conservation district, the ratings of non contributing, contributing and notable or given to the properties. there are no properties rate is outstanding.

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So we have a total of 39 non, contribute, seventy-nine, contributing and one notable.

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Where do these ratings come from? They come from two historic surveys?.

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There was a local survey done of maple heights in 2008 and.

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It also comes from the survey completed by bloomington restoration inc in 2018,, so what I did was I use the most.

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Current data available to assign each property or rating the reason being that the 2018 bri survey.

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Essentially left out, 66 properties did not survey them in the in the boundary.. So.

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Rather than calling them non historic,, which they weren't or non-contributing., I used that I had from a 2008 survey of the neighborhood.

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And so I filled in the gaps there with the 2008 survey and use those ratings.

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After careful consideration, the application and review of historic district. criteria is found in ordinance.

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95 20 of the municipal code staff finds that the proposed district not only meets but exceeds the minimum criteria listed in the code.

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According to the ordinance, the proposed district only needs to meet one of the ten criteria listed in the ordinance to qualify for historic, designation.

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Staff finds that the district meets four of the listed criteria.

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So first I want to talk about the two historic criteria.

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Criteria 1a reads that it has significant character, interest or value as part of the development heritage or cultural characteristics of the city, state or nation.

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Or is associated with a person who played a significant role in local state or national history.

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And so what we have up here is a bloomington pioneer family, the blair's.

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The blair's were of a religious group called the reformed presbyterians, also known as covenanters.

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They came from south carolina., they were staunch abolitionists., so they took a moral stance against slavery.

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South carolina at that time period allowed slavery., so I believe the covenanters moved to indiana to live in an environment.

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That did not allow slavery, because indiana was created in 1816 outlawed. It.

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So that's one of the largest reasons why the covenanters settled in in, indiana in bloomington in particular?.

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So james blair is one of two ruling elders of the church.. He was an indiana university.

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Trustee I want to speak a little bit to the character of the blair family and these type of people and to do that.

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I have a primary source here, written in.

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1887 by reverend ta wiley wiley was one of the first pastors of the covenant or congregation in bloomington and.

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He's writing about when he first arrived in bloomington in 1837.. So this is a really great.

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Look at what it was like, he says quote: the self-reliance and perfect independence of the farmers struck me forcibly.

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By way of illustration,, I would prefer to, I would refer to mr. james blair's establishment, whose house and family.

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I was perhaps better acquainted with than any other.

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Mr. blair, his sons, then in the vigor of life, were not only excellent farmers.

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But they were their own carpenters, cooper's turner's, harness makers shoemakers.. I believe also wrote makers and mrs.

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Blair and her daughters were the spinners and the weavers and the dyers and the dress makers, as well as house, maids, dairymaids and cooks.

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In addition to all this, the family did not depend on the outside world for subsistence.

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They raised their own corn and wheat and oats and potatoes, and often their own sugar.

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Sometimes their own sassafras tea, as well as their own beef, mutton and pork. As far as their material things are concerned,.

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Could there be any person or class of persons more independent?.

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So they're, obviously very independent, a group of people hearty people. They lived in a log cabin shortly after mr.

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James blair died his son john built the house.. You see there in the picture., it's it's an ai house.

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That is currently 8 to 3 north maple., so that's still in the neighborhood and it's still standing that was built. Circa 1960.

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Another interesting facet of history that connected the blair's to a larger piece of u.s.

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History is it's their involvement in the underground railroad.

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There was a professor here.

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Dr. henry smith,, he wrote an article in 1917 about the underground railroad in bloomington, and he actually interviewed some.

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Witnesses who were around in the eighteen sixties, really the height of the underground road, and if the council is not familiar with what that.

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Is it was a system of a network of routes and and safe houses that helped slaves?.

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Go north to freedom,, canada or other places.

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So some several witnesses say that the blair's were active in this, and perhaps that house was used as a.

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Safehouse for slaves on their way north. So I think that's very interesting to.

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Talk about criteria one see next.

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This means it exemplifies the cultural, political, economic, social or historic heritage of the community.

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So the neighborhood of maple heights, it was first planted in the 1890s when portions of the blair tract were subdivided and sold as individual lots. So.

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The event that really spurred this was the creation of the dodd chair furniture factory,, which you see there on the slide.

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So as the need for worker housing increase, formerly agricultural land was transformed in neighborhoods.

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The dodd factory later became the north end, furniture factory operated by the showers family, and you can see there.

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Says office and factory maple heights.

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So the development, the neighborhood is directly tied to the expansion of bloomington bloomington's downtown.

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It's a local representation of early 20th century residential working-class development spreading into rural areas in response to the industrial growth and.

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Decentralization of cities- other examples you can see in bloomington of this, you guys are probably familiar with our mcdole.

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Prospect hill and near west side, and when I show you the architectural slides of this neighborhood, might be familiar. it might. You might be able to link that to the aforementioned neighborhoods.

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So let's talk about the architectural criteria believe it qualifies under criteria e and f, so ear. Eads.

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Contains any architectural style detail or other element in danger of being lost.

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Maple heights neighborhood has lost many houses over the course of the past century, and many others have been so altered that they're.

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Unrecognizable to their original form, scale or style.

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As the city of bloomington continues to grow, the neighborhood will face increased pressure from party seeking to buy reasonably apply.

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Reasonably priced lots and homes to turn into.

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Multi-Family housing or other commercial enterprises, this single-family neighborhood represents an integral part of the bloomington story and is a familiar visual feature of the city.

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Something that I noticed when I was going through the surveys,. I looked at the 2001 survey, 2015 thousand 18.

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And what I saw happening was a trend and, as the years went on, the amount of notable structures in the area went down and the amount of.

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Non-Contributing went up and what that tells me is there's been some loss there, whether it's.

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Demolition or significant alteration in the neighborhood.

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All right criteria to f owing to its unique location or physical characteristics represents an established and familiar visual feature of a neighborhood or a city.

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The form and style materials you're going to see in the houses and maple heights are really representative of the need for worker housing.

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Near the downtown area, as I said before, the earliest 20th century saw rapid growth of industry in bloomington.

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Which led to the increased need for small, affordable housing located near the factories and rail yards.

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Maple heights became an ideal location for families to live affordably, while still remaining close to most of the major factories.

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So some of the things you're going to be seeing in these houses, you're gonna notice, they're gonna, have smaller footprints or not very large.

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Some of the floor plans are a vernacular style, so these aren't floor plans that are created by architects who are trained and universities their floor, plans that are created and passed down and regeneration, a very fulfilling style.

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You're also going to notice., there's not gonna, be a lot of brick and limestone here.. It's wood. okay,, because that's what was affordable.

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No high style architecture or ornamentation and.

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Just looking at it really speaks to who it was built for and who lived there originally, and you can see that.

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So if you notice at the top here is the blair house.

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So this is that I house I showed you earlier in the black-and-white photograph. it's 83. North maple is notable.

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It has been significantly altered.

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That brick porch was put on there, some stairs going on the left-hand side and some additions in the rear. I believe, but the core of the house remains.

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Below it., I believe, is the property adjacent to it as another blair family house.. We believe.

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Constructed around 1900, that's for california, bungalow.

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These are two houses that.

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Really are almost identical: they're pyramid, cottages and they're both have been believed believed to have been constructed by james blair.

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But just again notice the simple shape wood made out of wood.

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These are not very high style houses,, but they're, beautiful and they're from a certain time period.

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Certainly that the one on the top is a folk, victorian.

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It's another one year kind of working man's house made from wood.

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Below that is a saddlebag, and so a saddlebag. is that vernacular form?? You see the chimney in the middle., there's actually two entrances to that.

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Too, there's two doors in the front two rooms and the chimney splits it and call that a saddlebag.

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And you're getting you can find that easily.

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I like to look at in a log cabin form,, but this one obviously is a little more modern. Looking.

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The one on top there's your hall and parla,, it's another vernacular building style. We can trace that back to the east coast and he later earlier on ii in england,.

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Then we have another pyramid: roof cottage there you can see these homes, for the most part, are in pretty good shape the ones I decided to show you, but.

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Remember you're, seeing about 10 out of 116 properties. Here we have a tee playing cottage up. There.

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And then below we have a your bungalow.. You can see a lot of bungalows in this neighborhood.

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So I just want to reiterate that the architectural form install.

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These homes are really indicative of the needs of working-class residents, because that's the neighborhood.

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That's who lived there originally.

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So this is in ordinance for maple heights to establish a conservation district.

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This is different, obviously than a historic district, and I was going to go over some of the differences there.

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In a conservation district.

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Essentially, the only thing different between how it is now and how it will be if it becomes a conservation district.

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Is that certificate of appropriateness, azar needed for new construction of?.

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Principal and ancillary buildings viewable from the public right away.

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Demolitions and moving the structures., so there's no designer view on exterior alterations or additions right as in a conservation district.

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The design guidelines will aid design review and those guidelines will be created by a committee made up of neighborhood.

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Residents myself and one or two commissioners from the hpc and this is to guide new construction and.

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Really? they're, just looking at things like setback and height and an orientation.

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Fenestration patterns that you see in the neighborhood very basic things., it's not meant to.

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Be very specific, so after three years.

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Property owners and the conservation district will be mailed a ballot to vote on whether they want to remain a.

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Conservation district or be elevated to a historic district.. Each property owner receives only one ballot.

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51% of the ballots must be cast in favor to remain a.

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Conservation district or the district will automatically elevate to historic district status. so to wrap things up.

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This is a family. A single-family neighborhood represents an integral part of the bloomington story and is a familiar.

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Visual feature of the city, a local conservation district designation, will ensure that these houses are not.

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Dramatically altered or lost in the future and that the neighborhood will remain it's in its historic setting as a single-family residential area. Thus,.

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Securing the preservation of this architecture and its story for another century.

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Staff and the bloomington historic preservation commission would recommend that the council established a proposed maple heights conservation district.

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Thank you. mr. heric.. Are there any questions from council, councilmember ruff?.

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So what chin first of all, has there ever been? I mean you mentioned.

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Mcdole you mentioned prospect hill near west side, which I understand is in a process right now,.

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But has there ever been a conservation district that wasn't elevated in bloomington? That was not elevated to a historic district., no.

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So so you mentioned what what happens when a.

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To applications for alterations of buildings in a conservation district.

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What happens, how do those change when it becomes elevated?.

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Assuming it becomes elevated to a historic district., so if it becomes elevated to a historic district.

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Then a lot more will come under purview of historic preservation. Commission.

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Any kind of substantial alteration of the of the property, if you want to change the siting, if you want to put in different kinds of windows, you want.

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To alter the roof pitch, all these new elements come into play., so it becomes a much more specific design review, intense design, review process.

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Once it gets elevated but as a conservation district, like you said, it only really covers three things.

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And could you real quickly kind of go over again?.

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The process by which, after three years.

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The this survey of the property owners is done.

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So, and will determine who the property owners are in the district doesn't matter if they live in bloomington or.

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Texas, they will be mailed a one ballot.. So if you own five properties, you get one ballot.

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Each property owner gets one ballot and.

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They will be asked what they like to elevate to a historic district or remain a conservation district and.

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Unless 51% returned the ballot saying they wish to remain a conservation district., it will be elevated to a historic district.

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Okay,, so it's 51% of the individuals that were mailed ballots.

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Correct, not 51% of the actual property.

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Properties owned by people that one detail right there.

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Councilmember ruff., I am not 100% sure on I've.

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Rolled it over a few times., I would love to have legal here to to really.

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Get to the bottom of that, but that's one distinction., I don't know of oh, okay.. Thank you very much.

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Thank you, councilmember rallo,. I.

D

Really learned a lot, my question is about.

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Conservation districts or historic districts in in general.

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Do they need to be contiguous in terms of geographic?.

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Outline in other words, can they be represented with islands of homes outside the district, or is it or is it necessary to have them in a contiguous area?.

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They absolutely do not have to be contiguous.. I.

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Contacted the lady who is in my position for indianapolis historic preservation, and she said I believe seven of 11 of their districts are not contiguous.

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Okay,, that's not something that's standard., and so, when you do a review or the his or the commission does a review there. They're looking.

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Outside of the outside of the neighborhood a bit in terms of some orphan structures or something that might not be connected.

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Is that true? sure? yeah,? They might look at they, you know,, they definitely look at the survey ratings.

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And so there might be some some higher survey ratings over there, you know,. They might connect that in.

D

Okay, and then just to follow up just we discussed this a bit during our.

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Friday session, and that was that the eastern, the northeastern part of the his con servation district proposal is, is very distant.

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It's not doesn't have continuity, I suppose, or it has it has areas out, and this is.

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Just could you just tell me, is this?

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because it doesn't it's not in the same period, it's not same.

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Style of homes and so forth, age different. I.

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To be honest,, I wasn't I've been here for several months and when this map was put together and when it was decided what the boundaries would be.

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I did not have a say in the construction of the boundaries and I was never.

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Given a reason why they're drawn as they are.

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I mean, besides being in the maple heights neighborhood in the core area,, obviously.

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But the northeastern section that you're speaking of I believe maybe some.

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Representatives of the neighborhood today could could speak to that,. You know the comment.

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Yeah, or maybe by next time we could sure next time. yeah,, I'm here.. We have some yeah.. Thank you for them.

D

Thank you. any additional questions from council?.

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And seeing none we go to the public to see if there's anyone here who would.

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Like to take the podium and sign in and make a comment.

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Feel free to queue up to.

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Go ahead and start lining up,, please and again, feel free to take your 5 minutes or less.

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If we could, please keep it going.

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And sign in after you speak, please.

T

Hi, I live over on 12th street,, your name is mia beach and I- and I am sorry if you can pull the microphone down- everybody.

R

It is on a bendable stand that we need to have your mouth right on it.. All right. is this better?.

T

So I own a property over on 12th street and my mother-in-law owns a property adjacent and we have thought about it a lot and are definitely in favor of that.. It's an old home., it's from the late 1800s.

T

So I just wanted, I have to like leave pretty much right now,, but you know in favor or the conservation district,, so.

R

F

Just move it off to the side there., so the next person can speak. Please.

U

My name is terry austria,. I own two parcels on 13th street.. I.

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Used to own another parcel on rodgers.

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I am definitely in favor of the proposal for the conservation district.. I really like the character of the neighborhood the way it is.

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It's a it's, a very nice mix of.

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Affordable housing, working-class people, students.

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Faculty and so on, I just really fear that without this kind of protection, the neighborhood will change in ways.

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That will will lose the historical nature and the character of the neighborhood and.

U

It will become gentrified and be a bunch of mcmansions,, which I don't want in my neighborhood. thank you.. Thank you and.

R

Again,, if we want to start that sign-up sheet just back with everybody else, that's in line to speak. that'll save us a little time.

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Once you sign in make sure everybody behind, you gets a chance.

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My name is susan hathaway.

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I've lived in maple heights for about 17 years now and like terry., I just I love the neighborhood.

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It's such a great place to live.

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It has a wonderful character that you don't find in a lot of neighborhoods.

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I've lived in bloomington long enough to have seen the effects of.

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Development both good development and bad development, and I know that our neighborhood is.

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Very vulnerable to development. At this point.

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You know when I think about what would have happened to say, prospect hill if those houses hadn't been preserved. If that neighborhood.

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Had been decimated, my development, you know when I think of what?

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happened in the 60s and 70s, when really nice houses were torn down and then those.

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Those neighborhoods those areas, kind of went downhill for a long time.

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You know, I don't want to see that happen to our neighborhood and I'm afraid that it will, because of where we're located.

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And because a lot of the neighborhoods around us are going to be protected so.

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I'm speaking in favor of the conservation district. thank you.. Thank you.

W

Hi,, my name is lucy shaikh and I own the property at.

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708 west 12th, street, corner of 12th and fairview have since 2005, so I've seen a little bit of.

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Evolution of the neighborhood through those years- and I am also speaking in favor of the conservation district.

W

I can speak to the boundaries that were drawn that connor mentioned.

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We did have a couple of discussions and those three public meetings about the boundaries and how those settled out for our neighbors and.

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We decided on the ones that you see here, because they.

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Really protect that blair district, the core.

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Piece of maple heights without stretching out on to the madison rogers corridor,.

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There are a couple of houses. You can see that cross over.

W

Actually,, do they no, they don't we're. Staying on this side of the corridor., we tried to keep it really pure on that blair side of the street.

W

Because of like what sue said and everybody else that it's it's a very tight neighborhood.

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And that's part of what I would like to see protected with the conservation district. Is that.

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Historic neighborhood form, and that has to do with the the massing and the placement on the lot.. I.

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Have enjoyed living in the neighborhood because of the small houses and during my time there.

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I've seen some infill come in, including one of the largest houses who bloomington probably on the old sims poultry factory,.

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Lot, there. it is. now a double lot owned by one person and it has a barricade of arborvitaes and.

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Steel gate and fence,, which is very out of character with what I.

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Know about maple heights and where we actually really don't have that many fences.

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So I am speaking in favor of the conservation district.

W

I also want to say that I used to live in prospect hill. Another conservation district in bloomington.

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I was part of that formation and also part of the district guidelines. Committee., so I was in some of those hearings.

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When people came with proposals for new buildings, and it's a process that works.

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It's a process that is a process,, but it makes for better.

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Neighbors, better neighborhoods, better properties that are going to be historic, someday themselves.

W

They really what I've seen happen in prospect. Hill has been.

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Really positive for the neighborhood., so I am pro conservation district. thank you.. Thank you.

X

Hi, I'm jane goodman. I live in maple heights, I have since 2003.. I live at 7:15, west 13th street.

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It's one of the four known blair family houses. Connor showed you two houses on west 13th street.

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They were built at the same time about 1912 for two of the blair family, daughters,.

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And we actually still share.. I wonder if it's the only still standing out house in bloomington.

X

We don't use it for that. We changed it into garden sheds,, but it falls right on the property literally exactly on it with one.

X

You know, it's a two-seater one for each sister., so.

X

Yeah, so that,, you know, speaks to some of the architectural interest of the neighborhood.

X

I feel personally, very nourished by the neighborhood and by living in a historic house.

X

And but it, but aside from that., I feel like they.

X

The future of bloomington, we all we can all see how quickly the city is changing and it's going to change. That's just life life.

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Changes and then you know, since I've lived in bloomington in the last 20 years,.

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The downtown has massively changed and I'm good with adam from boston.. I have buildings.

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You know,, I I like that kind of thriving downtown.

X

But at the same time, I really like the historic character of.

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The core neighborhoods and I feel like that, would be a tremendous loss to bloomington to lose that architecture in that history.

X

Our neighborhood is probably the closest to the trades district.. It's literally right. There.

X

I think that the properties in our neighborhood would be very attractive to developers for.

X

Demolition and rebuilding, and that's partly why that we've come forward now,. We would can really feel that sense of encroachment of the downtown right around us.

X

I appreciate the blair family history of the neighborhood,, of course, living in one of the blair houses.

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But also, I think, it's a part of our history that we don't want to lose and we don't want to lose the historic footprint.

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Of it either so for these and many other reasons., I support the neighborhood becoming a conservation district.. Thank you very much.. Thank you.

R

K

Hi,, my name is daniel bingham. I.

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Don't live in maple heights.. I live in the watermen neighborhood,, which is similar of character.

K

I know many people who live in maple heights and I've seen the housing and it's very similar to the housing and waterman.

K

I'm not in favor of conservation or historic districts.

K

Because they restrict our ability to move in the face of climate change and what's coming at us,.

K

They are often promoted as as promoting affordability.. I did a quick survey of the data. While I was sitting there tonight.

K

There was a recent study that came out in new york city that showed no correlation between affordability and historic districts.

K

But that was in manhattan, where it's already about his dense as it can possibly be.

K

Other studies and cities where it is not already.

K

Manhattan dense have found negative correlations between historic districts and affordability.

K

Because they freeze the housing stock in that neighborhood effectively and it cannot grow with the population as it grows.

K

Maple heights is absolutely you know, ground zero for potential gentrification because of the trades district right there.

K

But if you freeze the ability to add infill housing, freeze the ability to take some of these single-family homes and make them duplexes or khwab flexes.

K

Then the affordability is going to drop out the bottom of that neighborhood, because people who want to work and live close to the trades.

K

District are gonna, buy up the properties and they're gonna sit in them and they're gonna.

K

Be able to afford to renovate them within the bounds of the historic district.

K

Code and they're gonna get more expensive that way. Mcdole gardens.

K

One of my close friends is a software engineer who works from home and makes upwards of.

K

$100,000 and lives in mcdole gardens and bought his house for over $300,000.. That's elm heights prices.

K

I totally get the desire to preserve the neighborhood's, the character,, but that neighborhood is a great, has great character.

K

I go and have dinner at the overlook on a frequent basis and there's a wonderful community in that neighborhood. That.

K

Absolutely should be preserved, but I historic districts are a blunt instrument that have negative consequences.

K

And we'll tie our hands if you look at you know.

K

Even in the presentation we saw tonight on the example of.

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Rebuild that remove historic character. If you looked at the house in the after picture,, it had solar panels on the roofs.

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Think about you, know, historic districts were tricks, restrict changing windows.

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One of the main things you can do to a house to make it more efficient is put more efficient windows in.

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Most houses have four inches of insulation.. We really need that to be closer to six or eight.

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That changing roof lines, most of those roof lines, are not passive, solar right, a passive solar roof line.

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Slopes up to the south direction so that you can collect as much southerly light as possible.. That's not what those roof lines.

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Do we need to be changing some of those roof lines?.

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This neighborhood is close to downtown.

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We are gonna, get increased population.

K

We are you know?, if you think about what's happening on the west coast, already the wildfires the smoke all summer and into november people are gonna, move.

K

They're running out of water out there. the aquifer is emptying.

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Nevada's gonna run out of water. People are gonna, move east, you think about what's happening on the southern coast,.

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They're getting hammered by these 500 year, hurricanes thousand year hurricanes, how many hurricane hardys that flood out your house?? Can you live through before you decide?.

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I can't live on the coast anymore, they're gonna, move inland., we're ground., we're.

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We're sitting pretty for the most part from what it seems like the climate consequences will be we're in a good spot.

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Which means people will probably come to us. You know we could be looking at as much as 10 feet of sea level rise by 2050. That's about 30 years.

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That's enough to take out the southern half of florida, that's millions of people migrating right there and the seawall,. You know.

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You can't hold back tempe to sea-level rise with sea walls.

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You can't hold that back., so we needed to be prepared for that and.

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Sustainable living, sustainable urban design is dense., it's walkable., it's you know,. We can definitely try to preserve.

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Some neighborhoods of single, we housing, but we need to be developing the urban core.

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We need to either be going up down up and down town more than we are currently.

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I mean that whole the garage discussion ended up centering significantly on the height.

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We need to be going up further than we are or if we want to preserve that, then we need to densify these poor.

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Neighborhoods close to downtown so that more people can live in them within walking distance of downtown 30 seconds.

K

Historic districts tie our hands and doing it.

K

So I you know, I think what we should do is, rather than using this blunt instrument is step back figure out how to preserve the thing that we can afford to preserve, because.

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The harsh reality is, we can't afford to preserve everything., we need to change.. We need to change our infrastructure.

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We need to change the way we live.. We need to change most of our society.

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But we can step back figure out a different tool that allows us to preserve the things we want to preserve, including the affordability, the cape, the character of the neighborhood.

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But still respond to these changes.. Thank you.

R

Additional comments seeing none., we are back to council for final comments.

R

Councilmember chopra.

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Yeah, I'm gonna be voting. Do pass, though,.

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The reason is that I do think that we have a lack of single family homes in bloomington and that.

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Development is not going toward single family homes. however,. I do have doubts.

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That the area will not be gentrified and will not price out middle-income folks and bloomington.

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Surely people who are going to work at the tech park we're going to want to buy these these houses and within the bounds, can.

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Improve them and make them a lot nicer change, windows, insulation, solar panels. All of that and.

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The they could possibly be priced out., so I have doubts that this would.

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Stop that from happening,, but I do respect the wishes of the homeowners, and I also.

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Respect the fact that we need to keep.

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A good mix of housing in bloomington, and I think that new development will not be.

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Primarily single-family., I think it should be more condos and building up and so to keep a good mix.

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We need to preserve what we already have.. I will be voting yes, as a recommendation this evening.

G

Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember rollo., oh.

R

He's not at a seat.

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Can't remember, stir bomb.

H

Well, tear down is not green.

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There's embodied energy in those buildings and the vision of taking down small.

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Single-Family residences to build dense.

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Rentals, what that does it takes the the person who's trying to own a home for themselves.

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Is now bidding against someone who can develop a home? That's going to have 3 4 5.

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That's the vision that we're talking about in our current you do, and that is a direction.

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I don't think people want to see for me to go.

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Home ownership is something that.

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Young people want middle-aged people want older people want. There's no big change in the polls. say that.

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While people are working and they're quite young and they're under 30. they're still.

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Satisfied with rental,, but when they want to start raising a family, they want to settle in the community. they want to own homes and.

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Some of the people who are talking about how we don't really want to own homes up.

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They have nice safe homes in the suburbs and they're talking about what happens inside the city, and I.

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Lived before we had zoning. I've been in the city 55 years.

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So I've seen the vision of what happens when you don't have zoning the houses get over occupied.

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The owners don't live, there. they don't maintain the neighborhood and.

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Then the people who did live there are sort of.

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Driven out because the place is starting to deteriorate.

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So I've seen the future and it was pre zoning in bloomington,. So.

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Single-Family zoning has saved these neighborhoods and.

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That is the history of the city?.

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I'm just explaining that I've watched in my neighborhood and in the greater prospect hill.

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Even while the conservation district came in, people wanted to buy, tear down and they wanted to buy and tear down.

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What were small, affordable houses and what are still small, affordable, houses? and.

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What stopped them was those the desert, local designation?,.

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Conservation district and you know,, some people call it gentrifying when people fix houses, but houses go through a life cycle.. These are from.

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1890 they're from 1900 houses don't stay together. If you don't take care of them and when people buy them and start renting them out and aren't really.

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Invested in them they fall apart, and when people don't have the money to fix them, they fall apart.. So the city has invested.

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Lots of money and helping get people to fix, helping people maintain these houses.

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But really once people start owning the houses, they can take care of them.

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So they kind of go through a cycle and there's a point of real affordability in the decay cycle. When you're right.

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Not quite decayed enough, but it's still safe and livable., so you pass through this.

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Very affordable moment and then it goes into.

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Unlivable 'ti and this old cycle was tear them down at that point, and.

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The turnaround happened when we started preserving them and fixing them and.

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Repairing them and ensuring the people who would invest in those neighborhoods.

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Weren't going to see this cycle of decay continue. so.

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That is that's a brief explanation of how I see the cycle of.

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Housing and life cycles of these places- and you know what's coming, people- can build.

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Little places for that for larger families for grandma. For extension, those that's still going to happen.

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And there is a condition for duplexes if it is a conditional use. So there is some of that.

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Still happening even in single-family in the new you do.

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So clearly I support this, but I wanted to say one more thing about the vote.

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What's nice about the vote? and what's fair about the vote, is?.

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People get to get used to this. it's situation in three years and.

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What it basically is, this majority rule at that point,. You know you go through a three year period of experiencing this and.

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People are very worried at the beginning of these.

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Processes because the who is your.

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It's a it's your biggest investment and it matters deeply to people who aren't home.. So, of course,.

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Everyone is very concerned about people making rules about their houses so that the comfort of that.

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Conservation district: it gives some time for everyone to kind of get used to it and see, and.

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Then they still have an opportunity to.

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Maintain it as a conservation district through the vote.

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So I'm supporting this in that's about all. I have to say. thanks thank you., councilman morello.

D

Well,, I think, councilman mr. bond, that was very well said and I think.

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Mr. binghams comments were very well put as well.. I think that there is a tension between.

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Increasing density, and certainly with considerations of climate change, and/or.

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Sprawl, if that's a concern, which it is.

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So, mr. bingham brings up some good points versus that. What we're talking about preserving?, conserving historic structures and.

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Councilmember storeroom brought up embodied energy,, which is an important part of this.

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Now tearing down old structures and putting up new ones, it there's an energy cost and there's a there's, a climate cost. There.

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But I think mr. bingham said we can't preserve everything and that's correct.

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But we can preserve some things and- and we have to be judicious about what we preserve.

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And I think that we need to concentrate on mixes of density downtown. We have to think about.

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Mixes of income downtown and make sure that there's equity being reflected and.

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And we have to do use of the tools we can to ensure that so in the next week,. I think I'll. Look at.

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Density maps and see how this particular neighborhood fits in in terms of.

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Is it warranted for for a conservation, district?.

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So I'll pass tonight,, but I'm quite favorable to it.

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But I want to make sure that that consideration about density is a very good one to consider.

D

Thanks, thank you. Councilmember granger.

A

It was a great presentation, first of all,- I just I liked it when I learned something about a district.

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I liked this district., I think it's worth preserving.

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I, like the smaller homes. I like that., it's affordable.

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And I think we do run a risk of losing quite a bit if we.

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Don't try to conserve it if you will so I am going to vote in support of this ordinance.. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember piedmont, smith.

C

Yes,, I am I'm also.

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In support of this conservation district,, I.

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Live in mcdowell, gardens conservation, district and.

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At least maple heights,, you know what the rules are, because in.

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In mcdowell,, which was the first conservation district in the city,.

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There was a kind of a misinterpretation of the rules and we were a conservation district for a long time.

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But then a new look at the indiana state law revealed that this three year, you know, if you want to.

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Stay a conservation district.. You have to take action and.

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So overnight we were a historic district.. We didn't know.

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That we had to take any action to if we want to stay a conservation district. Nevertheless,.

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The we have solar panels on our house.

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We didn't have to go to the store preservation commission to have the solar panels put on our house.

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We did have to do that, too.

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To put new siding on the house.

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But it you know what I love about historic districts. Their conservation districts is, it is walkable, it were, has a real character.

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You know you go past houses that are built.

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In and well, they're they're interesting, you know, they're, not all built at once. they're, there's a history. there's an evolution.

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They're, not all cookie cutter houses., although some of them are kid homes.. Just.

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What are mine home was, but it was?

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1925. So even the kid homes are interesting to people nowadays.

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So I think really preserving that history of bloomington is important and it's.

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You know,: this is kind of the missing piece of the west side of the near west side of bloomington. The northern part.

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Which reflects our history and reflects the the workers that made homes there? That worked in the the showers factory and other.

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Factories on in downtown bloomington.

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So I I appreciate that the the extra work was done to.

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To resurvey after it was found that the chard really ignored a lot of the houses, and it really is impressive.

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I mean, if you see all those purple houses there, that's a good percentage.. So I think this is a.

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Good cohesive conservation district and you know,- I always learn something from mr. bingham., and so I will reflect on on what he said as well,, but I think overall.

C

I'm in favor of this.. Thank you. Thank you. Councilmember simms.

E

So interesting I got so choked up. I had to leave for a second.. Thank you. A.

E

Very nice presentation I would jump on in and say that as well.

E

This is a tough situation for us we want to, or I think it's there's value in preserving.

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Some core neighborhoods. there's some that we have to do because others are protected.

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Through other means, so I think in some case we have to do that,, but I think on the other side, we're severely limiting ourselves.

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From a growth standpoint, I'm at some point and so I'm I will vote to do pass for this, because I believe that we need to preserve that. But I think this conversation is going to evolve eventually.

E

Where we're going to have to accommodate growth. we're going to have to accommodate infield. we're going to have to accommodate density.

E

We're just we're just gonna have to tonight is not that night. however,. I do believe.

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But that's my precursor and I think one of my council members laid out this plan on what we'll be talking about the rest a year on certain things.

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I just think that in the future we will be talking about more density.

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Away from downtown., I'm okay with that,, but I think we're just gonna have to do that at some point.

E

So, but I will vote to pass.. Thank you.

R

Thank you. Anyone else from council?

R

councilmember foam.

F

Super similar to accommodate growth., I think that that's we don't have that luxury.. Mr. bingham is right about that.

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But that I'd say mr. bingham was right about almost everything.. He said.

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We need to change now.

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We have to start thinking twice now. I'd like to think that we have gotten better in my time on council.

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About you know giving away tax breaks, as we did in my first term to.

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Developers, because they asked for the then because they did something that was meritorious.

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To the city fabric.

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But you know development also at that time, and mostly to this day, the stuff that we see is multi lot.

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You know development developers been aggregating, lots and buildings, a big block, long project on it and.

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We've talked previously in this chamber about how smaller lots are better and we want to try to get.

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Disaggregated so that smaller buildings get built on them.

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More sustainable buildings.. I don't know that a conservation district prevents.

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Redevelopment, it simply raises the bar. like it makes it a higher standard for redevelopment.

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You know, they're building that.

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For its demolished by neglect, councillor burster obama knows well this notion and we've worked to prevent it from happening.

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But you know there's occasionally, I think if a developer is sensitive to the standards of the neighborhood.

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They could get the neighborhood to permit a two-story building or a.

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Building with multiple units in it, if it was small and it fits the character of the neighborhood.

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But you know,, I've lived in a neighborhood that.

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You know,, I didn't want to live in anymore, because there were no permanent neighbors and I think that the.

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Permanence of owner occupants, the permanence of a community, is something we also need to preserve.

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I you know as important as it is to densify the.

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City,, I I don't want to do it at the expense of I mean if the result is.

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Less interaction between people and you know,, god knows: we've had our share of.

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Buildings that went the wrong way that we had ugly towers. it's probably 50 years ago, that.

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There on campus and towers that are not so tall,, but perhaps.

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Not too much less ugly downtown, but I mean I'm thinking about my neighborhood now, elm heights and.

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Both there and an old north east, there are two and three story: apartment.

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Buildings built before or zoning that are super crappy and they have big parking lots on them.

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And I've talked about gray field development in places like.

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Eastland plaza,, but there's an opportunity for gray field development in those neighborhoods.

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We could densify, we can give incentives to ill owners of those apartment buildings to build on those parking lots.

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No, I mean if few.

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Homeowners have big old parking lots on their property. That may have a driveway, but they pale in comparison to the big parking lots that were carved out when those.

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Two three on the story of two three-story buildings: ugly apartment buildings were built in the 70s.

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So that's got me thinking that you know in the gup coming you do. We can find a target of an incentive to start densifying.

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Neighborhoods in that way,, which is not going to cause any.

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Single-Family home owner to object for building that they've used to already being there,, but we do have to think creatively about this.

F

We do have to face the fact that the result of this is going to be that properties and those neighborhoods will get more expensive, mcdole.

F

We cannot say the mcdole is not more expensive because of the conservation designation. It means. Is it guarantee that that product is not going to be that much more housing built there?.

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And so the house is it to go up.. This is the same problem.

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We have citywide where we're not building enough housing and the prices are going up and that we're wondering why that's why.

F

So, I mean I do support this, but I also recognize the irony that mr. bingham has pointed out.

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And I'm gonna be looking for ways to make up for it.

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But I do also believe that there's hope that we can densify.

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Even neighborhoods that get this ticks a designation as long as it's done sensitively and we need to find ways to target.

F

That but the particular kind of densification that the neighborhood would accept. So with that I'm going to support I'm going to make a.

F

Recommendation do pass. thank you. thank you.. Anyone else from council, councilmember ruff?.

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Wrap our heads around the input from the public was really valuable tonight and comments by council members.

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Clear there's there's some things I need to sort through and think about, but one thing I want to.

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Say about my own thinking, I don't want us to. I don't want I'm not sort of gonna.

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Conflate or draw too many similarities between the action this council took regarding.

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Construct subsidies, subsidizing new parking structures downtown in the face of.

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Dramatic climate change in the near future with.

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The argument that that we need to retain maximum flexibility to debt, to densify neighborhoods because of mass a.

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Probable mass migration of people to bloomington. I mean so slowing climate change by adopting policies that are intended to.

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Reduce emissions like.

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Like we had in mind when, when trying to get away from.

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Subsidizing encouraging vehicle use by providing more more parking compared to anticipating and adapting to social political impacts of climate change. As a result of climate change, causing people to move here to me or diff, very different.

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There are two very different concepts. they're different things to think about.

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Climate change will happen if we don't dramatically change our way of living, but.

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Large-Scale migration to bloomington as a result of impacts of climate change isn't to me as clear.

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An inevitability, it's a different sort of thing.

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Growth, physical growth in the community of the community expansion of the community terms of population in a built environment is.

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Something that this comp plan clearly states is not a actual goal that we seek for bloomington.. It's very clearly stated in the comp plan.

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Reducing greenhouse gas emissions is a very clearly stated goal in that comp plan.

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So while I do need to think about, the arguments have been made tonight about the connections between this sort of policy and.

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Our global stewardship of our environment in the face of catastrophic climate change., I need to think about these things a little bit more and.

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And weigh in the arguments like councilor,, mr obama, for example, has made, and others have made about the.

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Embodied energy and in existing structures after there's a lot of elements here to think about.

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So I'm gonna pass tonight,, but I'm, but not because I'm not.

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Pretty favorable to this.

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But there are some things I need to sort can think about so,. Thank you.

R

Thank you. and everyone has spoken except me.. I do want to make the very important connection between.

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History, which it was very instructional to hear about these homes, how they were built, who were building them. The.

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Visions that they had they moved from another state, they were abolitionists.. I mean this is this is rich.

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This is rich history that tells us about the founders of this community and how this community.

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You know got its foothold and that, of course, is history and a lot of people find history, boring and dry.

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I think it's fascinating and it's worth preserving it's worth knowing about it's worth thinking about, but let's jump from history of the here and now I'm always.

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Focused on the here and now and the humanity of neighbors wanting to live in a neighborhood of their own choosing and.

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Of neighbors, who want to live in places that already have small footprints that are already naturally affordable,.

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They're already cohesive, and they want it to remain that way, rather than to be changed in a way that could cific.

R

Significantly impact their ability to be friendly, neighborly., you know,, you have the kind of.

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House that they want, that is low maintenance. Now, with respect to moving from conservation to historic.

R

I think there's also a lot of myths of what that means, what you can and cannot do to your own property and.

R

My experience in working with districts that went from conservation to historic is there's still a lot of flexibility. The neighbors can decide.

R

What elements of changes can be made to the structures that already exist?.

R

You can indeed make them more efficient in terms of.

R

Windows and solar panels, and so there is not this huge restriction that I think many like to equate with.

R

Oh, it's elite or it's you know it is. This is gentrification.. This is actually making the kind of home improvements that actually do reduce the carbon footprint.

R

Once you have a small home,, it's owner-occupied, it's yours and you have that investment in the property to keep it maintained and to keep it as energy efficient as possible.

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I am not in favor of being so heavy-handed that we dictate to people.

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How they want to live in what kind of homes they want? We need.

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Owner-Occupied housing. We need single-family housing. We need the full array of housing that fits the needs of everybody who wants to live and work in this community.

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We know we have a housing shortage, but we're not going to get to where we want to go by destroying the homes that already exists, that are small.

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Efficient and that the homeowners want to maintain in in a fashion that does not.

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Blow it completely out of its livability factor., that's humanity.

R

That's the history of the here and now that we want to pass on as someone who has seen a lot of.

R

Transformations from conservation to historic., I see more of the upside than the downside., I'm full in full support and.

R

Thank all the neighbors who came tonight, who will you know?.

R

We'll have another set of challenges as this possibly moves forward.. Thank you.

R

Now let us if no one else has any further comment. Would you pass.

O

Move do pass. all right.. Let me start on my left with councilmember rallo.

D

Excuse me pass.

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F

R

Yes, yes. yes., yes, passing seven zero, two, seven zero.

R

Thank you. all right.. Thank you very much,, and we do appreciate.

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The hard work that you have presented for us this evening.

R

Now we move on to ordinance.

R

1904 and this is to amend title 8, the bloomington municipal code.

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Historic preservation to establish a historic district- and this is with respect to a property on south smith, road.

R

And we have petitioners here this evening.. Are you going to be helping to present again mister?.

R

You need a minute to get set up.

Y

Sorry about that, there's a little confusion. I will do a presentation,, but there will not be a powerpoint.

Y

Unfortunately,.

S

Because the property that I'm gonna be introducing, this is a wonderful, wonderful property.. So I'm gonna do a quick presentation on the ordinance.

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1904, it's known as the harvey nelson house.

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We do have petitioners, jim and sally.

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Harvey with us this evening.

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So this is located at one 175, south smith, road.

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The harvey nelson house designation consists of three structures on a 3.46 acre parcel.

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Staff and historic preservation commission believes a nomination, meets three of the criteria listed in ordinance, 95 20 and is eligible for.

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Designation as a single property, historic district.

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So criteria 1a has significant character, interest or value as part of the development heritage or cultural?.

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Characteristics of the city, state or nation, or is associated with the person who plays a significant role in local state or national history.

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So this property was originally an 80 acre tract heated from the state of indiana to robert ewing in 1830.

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That tract remained intact until 1936 the depression was going on and that ewing's were forced to sell break up the 80 acre tract.

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At that time, a 20 acre parcel, which included the two-story. I house a.

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One-Bedroom house and a barn was sold to alice and ralph nelson, so the nelsons were active members in the bloomington community. alice worked at indiana university.

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She was a director of the halls of residence for 25 years under the tenure of iu president herman b wells.

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During that time period she was instrumental in bringing.

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Libraries into dorms, so that was a something that a lot of university on the east coast had had established practice of having libraries available to dorms.

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She helped bring that to iu and she oversaw a very large dormitory building project program in.

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1950S, so I believe her portrait is hanging somewhere in the student union.

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Ralph was a civic leader active in community development expansion and served as the president of the first national bank.

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So I was associated with with nelsons their criteria to g exemplifies the built environment, an era of history characterized by a distinct architectural style.

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Really guys what sorry councilmembers. this is about preserving a piece of early agricultural landscape of bloomington.

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This was a small family farm.

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If you transport yourselves back to the mid 19th century.

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There wasn't a whole lot outside of downtown bloomington., it was farmland., and so this was one of those farms that dotted the landscape.

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A once common site that has now obviously become very scarce in bloomington.

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So it's about preserving that kind of agricultural landscape, at least a piece of it in the city, something I could compare it to is the hinkle garden farmstead.

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This is in the city limits of its currently serving as a pri headquarters.

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Criteria tewi contains in the architectural style, detail, element danger of being lost so.

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The harvey nelson house and the prairie style barn are the only buildings of their type in the vicinity.

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The harvey nelson house is an I house, it is.

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Very similar, looking to the blair house that I showed you in the maple heights presentation.

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Except it's much more historically preserved than the blair house is. It's.

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Travesty,, I don't have the powerpoint.

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So there was a similar prairie style barn on the belcher farm to the east, which was torn down during the construction of the gentry estates.

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Subdivision and another similar barn and queen anne house on the smith farm to the north, which were torn down during the construction of the gentry honors.

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Subdivision the main house is currently well-maintained and is, and so is the one-room house and barn. They are all basically.

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Unaltered, so they all go together and all are contributing to this one. Historic, designation.

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The owners of the property, james and sally harvey have cared for this property lovingly since they purchased it in the 70s.

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They are the ones who came forward and are seeking historic, designation of their property.

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Letters notifying adjacent property owners were sent out and staff did not receive any negative feedback and did in fact receive a letter of support.

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From a neighbor staff and historic preservation, commission would ask that the council approve ordinance.

S

1904. all right. thank you.. Would the petitioners like to make a comment before we go to council for questions or.

R

Mr. harvey and now we have some pictures, while you're speaking of your beautiful home.

R

We purchased this house 40 years ago.. Can you put both pictures up?? Well, where he's speaking?.

F

And mr. harvey, if you could just officially state your name.

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I said we bought this house property 40 years ago when we bought it on smith, road.

Z

There were three houses on smith road at the time.

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One of those on the farm north of us and the barn disappeared when it was developed as a subdivision.

Z

That's our primary concern having lived here 40 years and you can look at our age.

Z

We're concerned about what will happen to this property when we're gone and.

Z

We've been approached by developers several times.

Z

We've talked to a company who lays out subdivisions and they've told us they've laid out tracts.

Z

Development for our property, so.

Z

Our concern is simply dead.

Z

We've raised all of our kids here.

Z

All of our dogs are buried in the garden.

Z

They're, stone walls there. we have an outhouse too.

Z

We just want it to be saved the little house. That's there when we first, we talked to people about it., it's a tenant house.

Z

Nobody knows in this generation. what a tenant house is.

Z

When this was a farm there, a couple that lived there., she was the housekeeper for the nelsons and he tended to farm.

Z

There were cows in the barn, and so it was a working farm not like it would have been the first hundred years of its existence,, but.

Z

All the other barns in perry, one where this is.

Z

Disappeared almost overnight and I admit that it needs some paint, but.

Z

Barns like this, just don't exist. they've become a very rare commodity.

Z

And so this is a little tenant house.

Z

When we first bought the property, we were told we need to call the perry, township fire department and having them come out and they.

Z

Could use it burn it down and use it as a.

Z

Test but we managed to save it, but I'm going on and on, but this place means a lot to us and.

Z

We just want to make sure that it's.

Z

This piece of history is saved at least preserved for the rest of our lifetimes. Any thank you.. Thank you. So much for that.

R

Now we come to council for any questions either for the petitioners or.

R

Our hand, prison presenter and staff.

R

Seeing no questions oh councilmember., I just thought of when I I was thinking of I was looking at an aerial view. I guess.

D

Yes, connor or I should say, mr. bergeron and.

D

It looks like this: we were talking about the preservation of the structures. of course,. The land is preserved as well., so the.

D

Property is preserved, and it looks very wooded., looks like there's a lot of trees on the property.. Is that the case?.

D

Am I interpreting that photo correctly because it was taken in winter.

Z

The trees were there, the nelsons listed in the 1930s others we planted in the 90s.

Z

And so we there are a lot of trees. It's wooded now the field to the south.. You may be familiar with that.

Z

Was that 60 acre field was part of this?.

Z

Property up until tonight, until the depression till.

Z

1932, it's now part of the huntington.

Z

Trust and their estates.. I know people want to try and develop that, but.

Z

It'll be snowing in july before that happens,.

Z

D

Okay. well,, thank you for that and I was referring to the aerial. Not these pictures.

D

But yeah, he really sure, and I said you see the seventies eighties enjoyed next. yeah.

D

Yes, okay. thank you.. Thank you.. Are there any other questions from council?.

R

Seeing none we go to the public if there are any.

R

Comments and seeing them we are back to council for a final comment and the possible move do pass councilmember all.

D

Well,, I need for all the reasons stated.. I think this is a good case for preservation, historic preservation.. I really.

D

The owners and being thinking of posterity and and and that this deserves protection.

D

Culturally, in and because of the structure itself,, I.

D

The reason I asked that question though,, I think it's kind of interesting- and this is sort of apart from the consideration.

D

But we were talking earlier about increasing density and look around see where we might do it and.

D

So, looking at the big picture of this, what I see is.

D

This is on the periphery of the city. There's a lot of suburbs, but one thing that I noticed very distinctly is that this is on one of the tributaries of the jackson, creek.

D

I mean just to the south of you, not through your property, but and it's one of the remaining contiguous green corners in state.

D

So if you maybe next time we can look at google maps and you'll you'll see this tributary just runs.

D

All the way up to morgan monroe, essentially.

D

N

Consideration the environmental condition. we're just looking to preserve.

D

Three-Quarters of the city, so it's interesting that this kind of meshes in terms of historic preservation as well as this is, I think, very good for the environment.

D

As well in terms of conservation, that's my key thank you. councilmember granger.

R

Thank you., I'm excited.

A

To support this, and I really appreciate that., the owners came forward with this recommendation.

A

I think that speaks a lot to me.. I like that.. I think the property is.

A

Beautiful and I can see how people are.

A

Clamoring down your throat to to take it over because it is probably a valuable piece of property.

A

When you're surrounded by all these other developments,, but I think it.

A

It's a piece of bloomington history that we can that we can preserve and I'm hoping you will vote.. Yes as well.. Thank you.

R

Thank you. council members, turbo.

H

Yeah, one of the things- that's always fascinated me about.

H

History and the the value of these properties is that it transcends money in a lot of ways.

H

You know money wants to drive for what happens in the city and it tries to, and it generally does.

H

But when there's another community value.

H

That and that's our community's history it there. The federal government decided that history could trump.

H

Money and that's why we have preservation law, because money was doing everything and it was destroying everything.

H

And it was the ultimate decider and.

H

Preservation law said there is another value., there are community values there, historic values and.

H

These owners recognized that they could make a lot of money getting rid of this.

H

But they this this city has a.

H

Series of these homes, these old farm homes, from the 1800s that were the large farms.

H

Before the city grew and you'll find them hidden in different.

H

Subdivisions,, you know they're little jewels when you find them and then you sort of can think backwards in time from the preservation of those.

H

To the pre-development era, when the city was a very small city, surrounded by these large farms and.

H

Once they're gone, they're irreplaceable., they simply.

H

Are gone and nobody can read that history when they're gone,, you know people unborn will be able to watch walk this farm and.

H

Understand the history of what what it was like to live in that era.

H

And if money wants to decide.

H

Goodbye all of this stuff,, you know that that holds for small neighborhoods.. It holds for proud like this, and I.

H

Just am always thrilled when the human heart, the human values speak like this and transcend our.

H

Typical monetary, the money decides everything and I'm just proud of the community for standing up for that and.

H

We have a more rich community because of it, and I want to really thank the owners for.

H

Understanding that and giving this gift to the future.

R

Thank you, councilmember chopra,, yes, just briefly I'll be voting, yes, because I think this is a perfect example of what.

G

Preserving a historic place can do for the character. The surrounding neighborhood.

G

I've lived directly across and kind of adjacent to this.

G

Property and I'm familiar with it and it's a it's, definitely unique.

G

Special, I like the idea of keeping it there for.

G

Perpetuity so thank you very much for coming forth.

R

Thank you, councilmember simms,. Thank you.

E

Thank you. harvey's appreciate that presentation.

E

And I will support this.

E

What I said earlier, I still think, holds with the growth of the city and some of the density issues, and I also said earlier that.

E

These can be pretty tough. Now me personally,.

E

I've worked at indiana university for over 30 years.

E

My main office, our headquarters, is in alice.

E

Nelson building, okay iii know part of that. I know that history I.

E

Supervised six of the dormitories that.

E

The pattern or how it started now that she hadn't seen any of what we're doing now may not even approve of some of it.

E

But that's how it all started.

E

I like here in the history as well, starting with the libraries on how we started that.

E

That was also further enhanced by coach knight even further, by spending more money in.

E

Putting books there before things went south and we want some other way, so I'll be happy to.

E

Support this, it is very worthy.

E

But I still will maintain it in future. Conversations. we're going to have to talk about growth and density and.

E

In surviving basically,, so we will talk about that., but thank you again. Harvey families. appreciate you taking the time this evening.

E

Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else on council? can't remember rupp.

I

There's a little bit of related lumped in history.

I

Who would have thunk? I would have thunk that.

I

44 years ago, I guess well shortly before the harvey's moved into this house, that I would look 44 years later, be.

I

Voting on a stark designation for my middle school principals.

I

The next we feel old or young.

R

How to make you feel pretty anyway, it's all be pudding. Yes, thank you. Anyone else, yeah, he's historic. That's.

R

The story, and with that are we ready for a move, do battle, do pass second moved and seconded.

R

Let me start: am I right: with? councilmember young councilmember, ruff?, yes., yes., yes., yes. yes.. Yes,.

E

Enthusiastically, yes. yes. yes,, and that is unanimous, nine zero.. Thank you so very much.

R

We now move on to our last item.

R

Tonight resolution 1902 to extend the bloomington urban enterprise zone for an additional five years and here to present. mr. brian payne.

R

AA

Can never get some microphone, right.

AA

Can you all hear that and cats you.

R

Might want to point that microphone just a little bit more toward you. yeah, that might help. how about that?. Let's see.

N

We're just gonna be hunting every time. That's right,, that's fine.! No! No to do it.

AA

So I'm brian payne assistant director, small business development, department of economic and sustainable development.

AA

It looks like this: slideshow is just.

AA

Going through automatically, can I take 30 seconds since yeah, if you're having technical difficulties.

AA

AA

Some of the font is gonna, be a little bit small,, so I apologize for that. So.

AA

We are seeking our fifth renewal of the bloomington urban enterprise zone.

AA

We recently helped lobby for legislation at the state level to make this possibility.

AA

All four of the previous renewals have passed.

AA

With that exception and we're seeking the last available renewal for the bloomington urban enterprise zone under current state law,.

AA

Still can't move forward on this.

R

Mr. payne, can you make your presentation from the desk there?.

R

Why don't you do that? Don't let's not stand on ceremony., you don't have to.

AA

So you can see before you a map of the urban enterprise zone.

AA

The mission is pretty it's simple, but it's broad to provide the means to improve the economic, physical and social environment for its own residents and businesses.

AA

So under state authority the zone provides state and local tax incentives and benefits for some businesses.

AA

And in exchange, those owned businesses must remit a portion of those benefits.

AA

Back to the zone in order to fund the activities of the zone, so you can see the map there.

AA

It's most of it does not include the campus of indiana university., it's most of the downtown corridor.

AA

Thank you, councilmember boland,.

F

Thank miss sims as well. Thank everyone so.

AA

No, it's otto going again. okay,! Well,.

R

Talk fast. yeah talk, fast, right,, so it'll come back around again. just keep talking.. I.

AA

Don't mean to but it's sure it sure is going on,. It's hammer.

D

Mr. pain me, perhaps you could, could you just go through and describe it and then send us the presentation.

D

I'm happy to and then you could you could do it.

D

It's it's it's much less visually impressive than I'm sure the harvey nelson historic neighborhood presentation.. So.

AA

We talked about how we work.

AA

The governance structure,, so the bu is an independent, 501, c 3 organization.

AA

It's appointed based on specific designated roles under the indiana code., so there are 12 people on the board.

AA

However, two of those are gubernatorial seats that the governor is never elected to a point.

AA

So there's six mayoral seats, four seats are appointed by the council and three of those must be zone residents. Three must be business.

AA

Representatives of zone businesses, one has to be an organized labor rep, someone from the planning commission, the esd director and then a council member.

AA

The current board of directors is listed on the presentation,, but it's julie, dinan from german.

AA

American bank, as a chair, jane cooper smith from hopscotch, is the vice chair at some point that will cycle through.

AA

Councilmember stir bomb is the is the council representative?.

AA

So the history of the enterprise zone program for at least the next five seconds.

AA

The enterprise zone program was established in 1983.

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And it was housed under the state ie dc, which is essentially their the state version of esd.

AA

For the last 25 years and under the state.

AA

Legislation that was passed last year., it will be iidc, will no longer have a role and that transfers to the designating municipal bodies.. So.

AA

Changes to the zone and approvals that we would formerly have to seek from this body and idc will simply be from comma councilman.

AA

So the zones are designated based on demographic, socio-economic and geographic size criteria. The statute.

AA

Stipulates what kind of mix that they have to have in their commercial, industrial and residential activities.

AA

The legislation allows for the zone boundaries to be changed,, but we feel that would be confusing.

AA

So we're not asking for a zone boundary change at this time.

AA

You ea's urban enterprise associations. are, there are 15 to 20 of them across the state.

AA

They're tasked with coordinating zone development activities.

AA

Catalyzing development within the zone boating the zone to outside groups and causing business to come within the zone and liaison with zone businesses and residents.

AA

So, right, you can switch if you're doing it.. I appreciate it doris.

AA

Backwards. there you go., we went forwards, so business benefits available to zone businesses.

AA

There's a variety of zone: businesses benefits available.. You can see this an example of historic facade, grant.

AA

That's the ongoing project at the trojan horse, so the enterprise zone, investment deductions themselves are benefits, right?. So anybody seeking develop real personal property in the zone?.

AA

Can take advantage of those deductions and, as can council members and, admittedly myself., I should make that own conflict of interest disclosure.

AA

Wage earners who both live and work in the zone can get a tax deduction as well, so that those are benefits onto.

AA

Themselves, as well as the source of funding for the bva.

AA

We also find entrepreneurial support and technical assistance.

AA

We have an annual contribution to both the ivy tech cooke center for entrepreneurship and the indiana small business development center.

AA

And then we provide business loans as well to small businesses.. We haven't initiated new loans in a while,, but we have several ongoing loans.

AA

As I said, we do, this doric facade preservation grants.

AA

There's a separate slide on those they'll get to in a second.

AA

We do $40,000 worth of zone arts grants every year, which is a competitive grant process where we try to identify.

AA

Emerging artists to perform and.

AA

Install art exhibits within the zone to help drive culture and development and make the zone a more beautiful place to live and drive quality place.. We work with the arts commission.

AA

To help evaluate those grant applications and then we have business scholarships that are available to small business owners.

AA

There's a lifetime lovat of $1200. and those are available to attend conferences, seek licenses, certifications.

AA

Recently, the b corp received one to go to an almond conference in california and they doubled their customer base.

AA

Strictly from winning that conference, and then we've also made some major grants over the course of the be a history.

AA

So in 2015 to 2016 there was two specific.

AA

$150,000 and $200,000 grants made to what was then martha's house and the shalom center in order to keep that organization, or that.

AA

Venture afloat and then recently the board authorized a 1 million dollar capitalization of the cdfi friendly, bloomington.

AA

Project that was just actually formally created as a 501c3 last month,.

AA

And we'll be making announcement of their activities, hiring an executive director and moving forward in the next year.

AA

So those are the some of the business benefits for residents.. Obviously, if they're a wage earner.

AA

From his own business. there's, there's a very good tax deduction.

AA

That's described below.. There are also economic, independent scholarships for residents who seek to make themselves more marketable and more employable.

AA

Typically, these go to people taking classes at ivy, tech or iu, but they can take any sort of class.

AA

They that they want to to make themselves more marketable and increase their economic independence.

AA

There's a similar lifetime limit as to the as the business scholarships.

AA

Sorry,, thank you.

AA

Historic facade, preservation, grants., so the bba budgets $50,000 annually,, although that's flexible. If we had enough good applications.

AA

I think we would go beyond that, for businesses to rehabilitate and preserve historic resides in the urban enterprise zone.

AA

We typically seek at least a one-to-one match from the property owner.

AA

They are awarded by the be a board of directors but connor, and the previous historic preservation managers actually do a ton of work working with applicants to make sure.

AA

We receive good applications at the ba yeah and some recent examples are the trojan horse. That's ongoing the treasure chest,, which is at 122 south college avenue.. The batman house was renovated.

AA

And the new lotus headquarters received a grant as well.

AA

So other ongoing programs and projects every year we give approximately $30,000 to the community school foundation.

AA

Every year they have some curriculum experts and.

AA

Teachers come in and and make a pitch for what they want to do with that. Money. they've done things like.

AA

A station for kids with emotional and behavioral disabilities to stay take some time out play with things.

AA

And then and then restore themselves,, they bought new math kits. They bought.

AA

Supplies for the robotics club, to name a few. We talked about the art grants.

AA

Special projects we talked about, we make an annual contribution to the boys and girls club to sponsor lemonade day.

AA

Which is an annual event that teaches kids in middle school and elementary school about entrepreneurship by teaching them how to do a lemonade.

AA

Thank you. So we talked about enterprise zone investment, weapons that are both a benefit to businesses in the zone and the source of the bbs funding. So an easy.

AA

Allows the deduction of an increase in the assessed value of property or equipment due to either new construction or substantial rehab.

AA

Or the retooling of manufacturing equipment- this is almost always real property development, but we do have some personal property as well from advanced manufacturing groups and a great coffee machine that has got.

AA

So it allows a hundred percent tax abatement over a ten year period in exchange the.

AA

Applicant owes a 20% membership fee to the bba, which is the lowest statutorily.

AA

Allowed fee that we can charge under the state statute, some some enterprise association is charged up to 49 percent.

AA

As passed by the council in 2013, if that deduction takes place in the tif.

AA

It must go to council for approval and if it is approved, they must. They owe an additional nine percent to the redevelopment commission to ensure the tif stays afloat.

AA

And then every recipient of an ez owes a one percent.

AA

Processing fee which for the last 30 years, went to the state. Now it's going to go to the association of indiana enterprise zones, of which bloomington is member.

AA

The tax deductions are filed annually with a colony auditor.

AA

So there they're not discretionary. If you apply and you meet the eligibility requirements,, you simply file the form and you get the tax deduction.

AA

So an example is, if there's a lot or a property, with the current assessed value of $100,000.

AA

They make improvements that increase the value by.

AA

$50,000, you apply the two point, one two percent, which would be, I think, perry township this year, tax, right?.

AA

There property taxes do before the deduction would be $3,100 that would go down by about a thousand dollars due to the deduction.

AA

They os twenty percent of those savings as a be va fee, so that, in that example, they'd write at.

AA

$226 check to the bva for the first 10 years, their bacon.

AA

So I apologize for the small font on this.. We had a councilmember request, some information about the bva finances.

AA

So the top table on the right is an example of how many businesses get these ads.

AA

Participate in the program, the fees that they pay in aggregate and then the assessed value, covered,, right?.

AA

So not the amount of the deduction, but the amounts of increases in assessed value cumulatively,.

AA

That receives its every single year, so.

AA

The bottom right table is simply a snapshot of the 2018 budget as who is spent by the bba on left.

AA

The bank accounts currently spread across several different local banks amount to 2.5 million dollars in bue a.

AA

Holdings, that is before we have not yet dispersed the 1 million dollar capitalization to the cdfi friendly bloomington organizations.

AA

That will go down significantly,, but as of they were at 2.5 million dollars in 2018.

AA

We had two hundred twenty-nine thousand dollars in expenditures that does not include the million dollars, right?.

AA

So it would be once that goes through about 1.3 million dollars.

AA

This is the first year that the birria has spent more than it took in.

AA

So, for the last five years, net revenue has exceeded a hundred thousand dollars going as high as.

AA

$400,000, where we take in a bunch of tax, diverted money- and we have not found projects large enough to.

AA

Fund in 2018 for example,, we receive five hundred sixty thousand dollars in actual deposits.

AA

Which would give us, if not for the 1 million dollar one-time purchase, would have given us a net revenue of over three hundred thousand dollars.

AA

So the request we're asking for was authorized by state legislation last year.

AA

We'd like to extend the enterprise zone for an additional five year period,.

AA

The boe a exists independent of the existence of the zone as long as it has funding and wants to exist.

AA

But for the 2008 tax year, we could not receive new or issue new investment deductions.

AA

We actually won't be able to issue the wage deduction.

AA

So none of us will get the wage deduction next year because of that expiration of the zone.

AA

The if we renew the zone that can continue but existing ease it so people who are in the process of their tenure abatement.

AA

Continue to receive those even with the expiration of the zone., so it expired on january 31st, 2018.

AA

We'd like to renew it retroactively. we starting january 1st for simplicity and that.

AA

Renewal would end at the end of 2023.

AA

So the enterprise zone is not renewable beyond the state under current law, given the state agency's.

AA

Decision to remove themselves from processing the program, I do not imagine that they're.

AA

Interested in getting back into it and there are no plans.- I know of at this time to extend that.

AA

Focus has gone elsewhere. Fort wayne is part of a pilot program to do innovation, districts.

AA

Which are a little bit more knowledge-based and tech focused, so I don't anticipate this program being extended, as is further than 2023.

AA

But that's speculative, so in conclusion, this would allow zone businesses to continue to claim those wage deductions to continue to benefit employees that live and work in the zone.

AA

Initiate new deductions to spur development and sustain the bpa's funding source and those benefits to businesses for another five years.

AA

Thank you, and I'm happy to take your questions,. Thank you. Questions from council.

R

Councilmember piedmont, smith,.

C

Yes,, it all went rather quickly. um,. Can we get your powerpoint?.

C

Mailed. yeah, absolutely. yeah.

C

But specifically, the.

C

The slide, I think it was the one immediately previous to this, where it had the balances and such so that.

C

One million fifty one thousand dollars in outstanding commitments. does that include the 1 million for cdfi? yeah. good point.

AA

So that includes the one-time, cdfi capitalization, and then typically there's a carryover from fiscal year to fiscal year of.

AA

Between forty to a hundred thousand dollars and what that is, is competitive, grants like the zone arts grants are awarded in august of.

AA

2018 and then recipients are able to conduct their activities and get reimbursed for the next calendar year.

AA

So the arts grants we gave out in 2018 will be conducted over the calendar year.

AA

2019 and then they seek reimbursement from the uea.

AA

So we've made those commitments to fund that money, but we won't until people hold their festivals and hold their concerts and then just submit reimburse me at the end.

AA

We won't actually disperse the funds., so that's the rest of the money is from those sources and the 1/9 is the cdfi.

AA

Yeah, okay. thank you.. Thank you. Anyone to my left.

R

Question can simon granger sorry?.

A

Thank you,, you said?.

A

You piayed does.

A

Loans, and I'm just wondering how much of.

A

Loans outstanding about what's the balance for?

A

outstanding loans., how much is is the b? we owed?, I don't have the exact figure., I'm happy to get it for you.. I.

AA

Believe it's in the neighborhood of.

AA

$50,000. so typically, the loans are in small amounts, fifty two hundred thousand dollars and at interest rates of zero to 0.25.

AA

Percent right., it's very beneficial to the business, a good question.. So do you do these every year?.

A

So in in the past, the bba was in the business of giving out these small business loans.

AA

Prior to my tenure, I believe in councilmember stir bomb can probably elaborate. The decision was made to get out of the actual loan. The lending.

AA

Role because we don't have the capacity to process and.

AA

Maintain those loans effectively and the bue a too often was getting held without collateral and losing money.

R

Anyone else with a question.

R

Council members gibran.

H

So I heard no tax credit this year.

AA

Right., so the expiration of the zone, at my understanding from our legal analysts and from folks at the state, is that that means we.

AA

Will not get a wage to and neither will the employers get a weight reduction for the.

AA

2018 tax, so if the worker didn't have to live in the zone, they just had to work in the zone.

H

It has to be both right, so the both. yep.

AA

So for employees that live and work on the zone, the employee can get away traduction.

AA

So it's either up to $7,500 or half their agi. If they don't drink that much and the employer can get one as well.

AA

Right didn't-didn't we give to boys and girls club as well?.

H

That was a couple years ago.. It seems.

H

The rebuilding project of the boys, & girls.

H

It is possible that the be a gave, a one-time donation to the boys and girls coming, which I'm not aware.

AA

And not during my tenure, certainly but prior to it, and was that before your you were here when, when we granted that?.

H

To martha's house and the transition to shalom, that was quite a large grade. that was between the years of.

AA

2015-2016 I got here in june of 2017. right and the schools are all in the zone or proportionally.

H

Zone, that's a good point.. I should have made that in my presentation.

AA

So the money to the foundation of community schools has to be used at schools. That.

AA

Are either in the zone or have a large percentage of students in the zone and they will detail for us every year how many?.

AA

Students are in the zone, what percentage it is why they're spending that money on their chosen, programs,, right? okay.. Thank you.

R

Additional questions from council.

R

All right,, seeing no me go to the public if there's anyone here that wishes to speak to the bue, a.

R

And seeing none, we are back to council for final comments: councilmember chopra,, yes,.

G

I served on the bu a prior to my term on council and I remember the idea of the.

G

Association sunsetting and I didn't like it, and I know that there were some options out there, that we could have considered such as.

G

Turning into a non-profit or some sort of foundation or something with the funds,, but I'm glad that we don't need to do that.

G

I'm really happy that all the good things that this.

G

Association does, which is as often not reported or appreciated, can go on.

G

I hope that my council colleagues can vote yes eventually on this decision, because it makes a big impact.

G

Thank you.. Thank you. Additional comments from council.

R

Well,, I may say that certainly the benefits to the community that the bu has afforded, including the ability to support.

R

Martha's house, as it was foundering in support for shalom, who took it over and it's now the friends place.

R

Those were significant use of funds that were certainly of community benefit.

R

I will be certainly curious to keep my eye on what may develop after this five years, once I'm sure will will be in favor of approving this.

R

You mentioned it: innovation districts.. I would like to get a little bit of a sneak preview.

R

If at all possible as to what that might look like and what additional programs the state may in their ultimate wisdom,.

R

Decide would be a benefit to communities like ours,.

R

Councilmember bowen. did you have a call?

R

R

Second, all right.. Let me start again to my left, with councilmember rollo.

F

Yes-Yes-Yes-Yes-Yes-Yes-Yes-Yes.

A

And that is also unanimous, nine one,. Thank you very much nine zero and thank you very much mr. paine, and we will.

R

Move to adjourn- and I get a second.

R

All right. thank you.. Can I get a witness?.

N