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A
I
am
calling
to
order
today's
special,
I'm
sorry
regular
session,
which
will
immediately
be.
A
Immediately
followed
by
a
committee
of
the
whole,
today's
date
is
with
november
17
2021,
and
it.
A
Public
that
are
joining
us
this
evening
and
if
I
may
take
a
moment,
I
just
want
to
say
I
think.
A
Participating
in
council
meetings
from
the
public
standpoint
is
a
very
good
way
to
participate
in.
A
A
Ready
for
approval
this
evening,
then
we'll
move
to
reports.
A
maximum
of
20
minutes
is
set
aside.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Before
journey
and
then
immediately
followed
by
the
committee
of
the
whole
meeting.
A
A
Evening
we'll
move
down
to
reports
and
we'll
begin
with
council
members,
and
I
will
start
with.
A
As
I
see
them
on
the
screen,
council
members
say:
oh
see
myself.
First,
I'm
sorry.
A
D
E
Thank
you,
president
center.
I
just
wanted
to
wish
everybody
happy
thanksgiving,
safe,
safe
time.
F
But
yeah
briefly,
a
little
update
on
the
on
the
burn
aftermath
of.
F
The
burn
that
occurred
at
1213
south
high
street
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
the
remediation.
F
Effort,
I
understand,
is
about
two-thirds
of
the
way
completed
and
I
wanted
to
commend
chief
moore.
F
For
his
effort
around
the
clock
to
expedite
that
work,
this
is
the
pickup
by
the
remediation.
F
He's
he's
done
really
exemplary
work
to
put
the
situation
right
and,
as
many
of
you
know,.
F
F
Evening
and
that
link
should
be
up
shortly
on
the
council's
website.
I
think
there
were
about
100.
F
G
Yes,
thank
you.
I
don't
have
a
report
tonight,
but
I
did
want
to
just
mention
that,
while.
G
President
sims
was
giving
the
the
agenda
summation.
My
cat
was
in
the
way,
and
so
I
may
have.
G
A
Even
know
this,
thank
you
for
mentioning
that.
Okay,
now
we'll
now
move
on
to
reports
from.
A
I
do
believe
staff
member
beth
rosenberger
is
here
to
report,
and
I
see
several
people
joining
us.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
I
This
first
slide
shows
median
household
income
based
on
2019
acs
data
and
the
outcome
that
we're.
I
H
H
H
H
H
H
Anywhere
from
10.6
percent
to
80
percent
for
people
25
and
older
living
in
those
census
tracts.
H
H
H
Likely
to
be
in
poverty
so
for
the
u.s
rates,
of
course,
we're
still
seeing
areas
in
town
that
have.
H
H
H
I'm
gonna
go
with
yes,
and
then
we
can't,
I
didn't,
have
the
tools
to
compare
just
65
and
over.
H
H
We
see
jumping
down
two
lines,
something
very
similar
in
tippecanoe
county,
which
is
our.
H
In
michigan,
the
county,
washington
that
has
university
of
michigan
had
a.
J
Are
engaging
residents
and
businesses
for
the
indicator
this
chart
and
the
next
one.
J
J
K
Hi,
I'm
mallory
brickfield,
bicycle
and
pedestrian
coordinator
as
an
indicator
for
outcome.
K
K
K
I
I
There
are
more
incentives
available
for
developers
to
utilize,
for
example,
if
a.
K
J
H
H
I
I
I
I
I
I
J
The
outcome
for
the
next
three
slide
is
public
estimates
and
right
of
way
have
positive
particles.
J
J
This
indicator
shows
the
total
number
of
all
motor
vehicle
crash
injuries,
as
reported
in
monroe.
J
Is
for
the
total
number
of
crashes
for
people
working
on
bicycling
in
monroe
county
from.
J
J
As
the
maximum
of
this
category
in
the
chart,
2012
was
the
only
year
that.
J
H
H
Are
included
that
we
got
the
data
for
and
we'll
provide
in
a
pdf,
because
we
were
trying
to
not.
H
Take
the
whole
council
session
and
the
we
include
the
list
of
sources
which
we
generally.
H
A
Okay,
I
had
to
meet
myself.
Thank
you
staff
for
that
report.
I
will
remind
our
my
council,
colleagues.
A
Council
member
scandal
larry,
yes,
thank
you.
I
have
questions
for
miss
frick,
bile,
miss.
H
K
D
Okay,
would
it
be
possible
to
get
that
data
I
would
have
to
check
with
barbara
okay
yeah?
I
would
I.
D
Would
be
interested
in
that
number
if
you
can
get
that
so
and
then
miss
rosenberger
going
back
to.
A
A
A
That
this
is
the
first
round
any
other
first
round
questions
council
member
bowling.
Yes
thank.
L
You
and
I'm
sorry
that
I
had
to
join
late.
So
I
didn't
see
the
beginning
of
the
presentation.
L
One
question
is:
how
often
does
the
long-range
planning
staff
plan
to
update
this
report.
H
So
far
annually,
so
I
guess
we
just
started
last
year
was
our
first
comprehensive
plan.
Data.
H
H
H
L
E
Can
you
can
you
explain
at
all
what
the
water
loss
means
to
us
when
there's
one
point
something.
E
Billion
gallons
of
water
loss,
I
don't
really
understand
what
that
means.
J
Yeah,
so
this
water
loss
is
for
the
utility
owned
infrastructure
like
water
loss
within
the.
J
J
And
the
most
obvious
form
of
water
loss
is
from
the
main
breaks.
So
many
of
these
surface
and.
J
Did
a
kind
of
a
leak
survey
to
recognize
more
of
this
kind
of
water
losses
to
fix
them.
J
A
Council
member
smith,
one
thing-
and
I
know
that
was
a
much
larger
question,
but
being.
A
A
I
don't
know
how
much
distance
that
we've
accomplished
yet,
but
that
is
one
of
the
things.
A
A
D
Okay,
question
for
miss
rickbile.
D
Great
thank
you
and
this.
This
question
actually
came
up
with
mr
zodi
in
regards
to
housing.
D
H
Yes,
that
is
a
correct
interpretation:
okay,
yes
understanding.
Yes,
okay
and.
D
Intentionally
because
they're
full-time
students-
so
could
you
click
through
to
a
couple
others.
D
D
Thank
you,
president
sims
you're
welcome.
Thank
you,
okay,
council
member
bowling.
I
believe
you
were.
L
L
Is
that
the
same
as
the
previous
slide.
H
I
apologize
I
just
didn't
correct.
The
title
up
here
is
because
it
was.
H
L
Apparently,
is
part
of
our
comp
plan
about
the
the
use
to
the
phrase
non-student
and
adult
as.
L
Synonymous
which
they
should
they
should
not
be.
This
is
actually
a
question
for
president
sims.
L
A
A
L
A
G
G
2016,
for
example.
So
I
wonder
if,
if
any
of
the
planners
on
the
call
have
some
theories
about.
G
H
I
will
start
2019,
I
we
don't
know
but.
H
H
I
think
it
seems
like
a
really
remarkable
bump
as
well
and
and
then
yes
2020
was
less.
But
I'm.
H
This
calculation,
so
of
course
we
don't
all
have
like
trackers
in
our
vehicles
or
a
system
where
we.
H
H
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
other
second
round
questions.
A
Okay,
third
round
council
member
bowling,
I
believe
you
have
one.
L
A
That
sometimes
I
will
share
or
ask
one
question,
and
maybe
it's
just
a
statement
and
I
don't.
A
Know
who
it's
directed
at
but
and
thank
you
all
for
the
report
and
this
tracking
report
update.
A
But
I
was
wondering:
is
there
any
rationale
that
that
you
guys
are
aware
of.
H
H
That,
when
the
nation
as
a
whole
is
doing
better
people
drive
more,
my
guess
for
covid
would
be.
H
People
were
returning
to
work,
obviously
not
at
the
same
levels,
but
still
driving.
Does
that.
A
The
capacity
to
get
down
in
the
weeds
so
to
speak,
but
what
I
would
suggest
is
that
in.
A
A
Differences
or
large
jumps
or
explaining
the
data,
so
we
more
fully
understand
it.
Then
that
would.
A
A
Want
to
thank
mr
rope,
ms
rosenberger,
mr
farchi,
mr
rick
bio
and
mr
gulick
for
a
wonderful
report.
A
Button
or
the
more
buttons,
if
you're
on
a
mobile
device
and
a
smartphone,
then
you
could
hit.
A
A
Function
on
zoom,
I'm
sure
any
of
those
not
work.
Mr
lucas,
do
we
see
anyone
interested
this
evening.
A
I
do
not
know
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
We'll
move
on
in
to
the
agenda
and
we'll
move
on
to.
N
The
clerk
by
title
and
synopsis
only
okay,
thank
you.
It's
been
properly
moved
and
introduced.
B
A
B
A
A
Us
off
please
proceed
good
evening:
chef,
underwood
city
controller,
we're
here
to
talk
about
two.
P
P
Our
bond
council
and
buzzkron
with
autocrone
and
associates,
who
is
our
financial
advisor
on
this.
P
Have
the
same
maturity,
the
estimated
gross
savings
on
this
is
605
000
and
the
net
present.
A
Thank
you
and,
as
you
know,
we
talked
about
or
discussed
it
in
some
depth
in
our
committee.
A
Meeting
so
I
would
now
go
to
council
members
if
you
have
any
questions
on
ordinance,
21-41.
A
L
From
before,
even
though
it's
not
directly
related
to
the
financing
aspect
of
this.
L
A
Okay,
council
member
of
olin,
before
I
go
to
the.
A
Public
for
comments-
yes,
please
ask
mr
kelson,
we
have
him
here
and
it's
timely,
so
please
go
ahead.
L
L
Of
bonds
and
the
question
of
the
costs
to
the
utilities
department
of.
L
How
does
it
play
a
role
in
financing
of
operations.
Q
Sorry,
it
really
doesn't
affect
this
particular
issue,
because
this
is
a
sewer.
Q
What
numbers
were
quoted?
There's
there's
a
lot
of
numbers
out
there
and,
as
you
know,
we.
Q
Have
been
affected,
you
know
by
the
by
the
new
meters,
so
we
do
have
to
be
a
little
careful.
Q
Whenever
we're
interpreting
anything
that
has
to
do
with
in
you
know
in
and
out
we're.
Q
I
will
dig
into
it
and
find
out.
Well,
I
guess
all
I
would
ask
is
that
you
know
any
updated.
L
Q
Oh,
I
totally
agree.
I
totally
agree.
We
will
work
on.
We
will
work
on
exactly
what
what
it
is
where.
A
Tracking
report,
and
not
directly
related
to
the
ordinance
that
we're
discussing
now
so
just.
A
A
Okay,
seeing
none
will
now
go
to
the
public
for
any
public
comments
on
ordinance,
21-41.
B
B
A
B
B
B
B
Zero
you
councilmember
flaherty,
remove
the
ordinance
21-42
be
adopted.
A
Thank
you
and
before
we
move
the
presentation,
I
do
believe
that
there
is
one
amendment
to.
A
Happy
to
introduce
that
if
that's
acceptable
as
long
as
I'm
staffed,
but
fourth,
the
amendment.
A
Will
speak
on
its
behalf
and
explain
it?
I
would
like
to
move
amendment
one
for
ordinance,
21-42.
R
A
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
world
please?
Oh,
mr
president,
I'm
sorry
go
ahead
for
an.
N
A
Very
much,
mr
allen,
will
you
be
discussing
and
presenting
amendment
one
I'd
be
happy
to.
S
S
It
in
another
ordinance
later
on,
otherwise
everything
is
the
same
for
this
refunding
bond.
A
A
A
Okay,
seeing
none,
I
believe,
we're
ready
for
the
question
on
amendment.
One.
B
T
A
I
will
hear
a
presentation
on
coordinates
21-42
as
amendment
as
amended.
Is
that
you,
mr
underwood,.
A
Or
thank
you,
mr
underwood.
Go
ahead
again:
jeff
underwood
city
controller,
again
I'll
just
give
a.
P
Quick
synopsis
of
this,
this
particular
issue
replaces
the
lease
with
the
traditional
bond.
P
It's
titled
a
general
revenue
bond
with
an
annual
appropriation.
Hence
the.
P
Amendment
that
you'll
see
and
that
language
added
in
that
pledges
all
any
and
all
revenues
for.
P
P
Rate,
it
is
general
revenues,
cbu
will
pay,
53
the
rdc
pays
15
and
the
parks
department
pays
32.
P
That
allocation
does
not
change
with
this
refunding;
it
just
means
less
payments
for.
P
Again,
we
have
bradley
bingham
with
barnes
and
thornburg
and
buzz
chrome.
P
With
autocronin
associates,
if
you
have
any
questions,
we'd
be
happy
to
answer
those
now.
A
A
M
In
a
moment
and
again,
if
you
would
like
to
comment,
please
indicate
by
using
the.
A
O
A
N
A
C
B
B
B
B
A
A
J
J
J
J
J
East
seventh
street
in
front
of
the
puja's
restaurant,
the
details
are
maps,
are
included.
H
A
A
You
can
send
a
note
to
our
meeting
post
via
the
chat
function
on
zoom
and
we'll
assist.
A
In
order
to
allow
you
to
get
your
public
comments,
mr
lucas,
you
have
any
takers.
O
A
Is
adopted,
nine,
zero,
zero
and
before
we
go
to
council
member
clarity,
I
just
want
to
add
to.
A
Our
colleagues
in
the
public,
the
iu
portion
of
north
jordan
or
the
jordan
extension
will
be
named.
A
Fuller
avenue,
I
believe
and
it'll
be
named
after
miss
maddie
fuller
and
I
won't
waste.
A
N
A
A
A
Thank
you
that
motion
importance
21-44
passes.
Will
the
clerk
please
read
ordinance.
B
B
A
V
Director
for
the
city
of
bloomington,
the
purpose
of
this
recommendation
is
to
address.
V
Commission's
recommendations,
the
people
that
have
worked
towards
this
through
city
staff
is
the.
V
V
The
second
section
is
currently:
we
have
business
downtown
business
permits.
V
The
before
I
was
appointed
this
position,
there
was
a
recommendation
when
they
combined.
V
These
are
currently
there's
your
picture.
Councilmember
sims,
there's
the
picture.
V
There's
the
second
picture,
the
this
visual
just
shows
that
currently
in
trades
garage.
V
Is
the
second
and
this
this
code,
this
change
will
clarify
that
and
there's
only
two.
V
And,
like
I
said,
they're
right
in
trades,
district
garage
and
then
last
but
not
least,
is
the.
V
Fee
be
eliminated,
and
they
will
not
have
to
actually
go
to
the
police
department
to
pay
this.
V
A
Council
member
bowling-
yes,
just
briefly
to
clarify
the
the
total
number
of
disabled.
L
V
A
Okay,
I
do
have
one
miss
wall.
You
mentioned,
I
guess
with
them
section
15.48.074.
A
W
A
Okay,
do
we
have
any
other
questions
from
council.
A
You
to
please
use
the
raised
hand
function
in
zoom,
you
can
use
it
or
get
it
through
the.
A
A
On
zoom,
if
neither
of
those
are
accommodating
to
you,
mr
lucas,
do
we
have
any
takers?
Do
you
think.
M
Give
it
just
a
moment,
I
don't
see
any
hands
going
up
immediately.
A
T
B
B
A
N
D
X
B
B
B
A
A
Minutes
I
would
also
add
that
if
you
wish
to
speak,
please
use
the
raised
hand
function
on
zoom.
A
Zoom
to
indicate
your
desire
to
publicly
speak
this
evening,
mr
lucas,
do
we
have
any
takers.
M
R
A
A
A
Excuse
me
and
I'll
ask
our
parliamentarian
to
make
sure
I'm
correct.
A
M
A
Haven't
heard
from
mr
dove
in
a
while,
so
it'll
be
good,
we'll
now
move
on
to
the
agenda
to.
A
Matters
dealing
with
council
schedule,
mr
lucas.
Yes,
a
few
items
to
bring
to
your
attention
tonight.
M
So
the
next
meeting
after
tonight
the
next
regular
meeting
afternoon
tonight,
will.
M
Be
the
december
first
regular
session
and
just
a
note
that
that
meeting
and
then
the
december.
M
8Th
meeting
and
then
the
15th
will
be
the
last
three
regular
meetings
of
the
council.
M
For
this
year,
so
there
is,
in
addition
to
those
three
meetings,
one
work
session
scheduled
coming.
M
Be
coming
forward
between
now
and
the
end
of
the
year,
there
are
several
resolutions
that.
M
Those
are
the
items
as
of
today
that
are
scheduled
between
now
and
the
end
of
the
year.
A
Okay,
we'll
schedule
it
for
friday
at
noon,
then.
A
A
Was
that
everything,
mr
lucas?
Yes
thank
you
and
I
still
don't
have
the.
M
Public
comments,
so
I
will
share
that
if,
if
I
do
receive
it,
okay,
thank
you.
If
there's
no
other.
A
Business
and
I
see
none
before
we
adjourn
and
before
we
start
the
committee
of
the
whole.
A
If
there's
no
objections,
I'd
like
to
take
a
whatever
you
think
is
reasonable,
four
minute
break.
A
A
G
Common
council
for
wednesday
november
17
2021.,
we
have
two
items
on
the
agenda
this
evening.
G
We
have
ordinance
2145
to
amend
title
vii
of
the
municipal
code,
titled
animals
and
then.
G
Would
like
to
ask
council
president
sims
or
council
vice
president
scandaloury
to.
A
No,
she
graciously
agreed
to
do
that
so
and
therein
lies
governing
yes,
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
So.
D
G
I
think
we
wanted
to
actually
start
with
samantha
morton
from
the
humane
society
of
the.
Y
Y
Y
Y
So
sorry
about
that,
my
cat
wanted
to
join
us
this
evening
as
well,
so
going
back,
we've.
Y
Had
that
have
passed
state
laws
that
have
prohibited
the
sale
of
dogs
and
cats
and
pet.
Y
And
hammond
indiana,
so
I
think
you've
seen
there's
there's
been
five
communities.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Socialization
and
for
cats-
that's
a
particularly
big
issue,
because
they
they
need
that
human.
D
G
Yes,
I
have
a
powerpoint
presentation,
I'd
like
to.
G
Use
to
walk
us
through
the
ordinance
so
I'll
share
my
screen.
If
I
can.
G
Is
addressing
a
problem
that
we
have
seen
nationwide
and,
as
ms
morton
just
mentioned,
is.
G
G
Inhumane
and
occasionally
it's
it's
not
you
know,
the
pet
shop
is
trying
to
do
everything.
G
They
can
to
make
sure
their
suppliers
are,
are
have
our
businesses
of
integrity,
but
sometimes.
G
These
places,
so
these
ordinances
have
been
a
strong
tool
in
trying
to
stem
the.
G
Basically,
so
that
there
are
fewer
places
that
would
actually
purchase
from
these
mills.
G
So
we
do
have
currently
in
in
chapter
seven
of
our
municipal
code.
G
A
good
step,
but
but
again
we
feel
like
there
is
more
regulation
required
so
that
we
do
require.
G
Have
a
a
pet
that
somebody
takes
home
from
a
pet
shop
and
later
has
significant
behavioral
or.
G
Physical
problems
and
there's
no
verification
of
the
conditions
in
which
the
animal
was
bred.
G
Or
was
born
and
how
that
parent
animal
is
treated
the
mother
is
treated
and,
of
course,
we
look
at.
G
G
Really
is
just
the
minimum
for
survival:
it's
not
prescribing
any
kind
of.
G
Actual
atmosphere
in
which
an
animal
could
thrive.
So,
as
ms
morton
said,
a
local
solution
is.
G
Some
of
the
local
stores
like
tnt,
they
do
well
in
just
selling
food
and
toys.
G
G
Up,
you
know
spending
quite
a
bit
of
money
at
the
shop
where
the
the
adoption
took
place.
G
So,
just
to
run
through
the
ordinance,
then
the
first
part
is
about
definitions.
G
Helps
place
animals
in
homes
in
good
homes,
then
the
next
sections
of
ordinance
2145.
G
G
G
Any
financial
interest
in
their
adoption
so
that
there
isn't
any
temptation
or
possibility
to.
G
Sneak
in
animals
that
maybe
are
not
raised
in
a
humane
way
and
as
far
as.
G
Cats,
the
humane
society
of
the
u.s
does
provide
assistance
to
pet
shops
for
the
transition.
Some.
G
Some
advice
and
marketing
assistance
to
to
help
because
it
will
be
a
major
change
for
the
shops.
G
T
In
the
vetting
process,
as
for
the
members
of
the
community
that
have
approached
the
council
to.
T
T
T
T
T
That
we
have
granted
as
a
grace
period
for
the
pet
shops,
who
will
be
most
affected
to.
D
X
X
Is
there
like
a
an
average
for
pet
stores
across
the
country
about
what
percentage
of
sales.
Y
Of
puppy
selling
pet
stores
or
about
four
percent
of
puppies
still
come
from
stores.
X
X
A
A
shelter-
or
you
know
that
from
that
avenue,
so
I
was
wondering
about
enforcement
and
then.
A
It
was
stated
that
they'll
be
complaint
based
and
then
I
then
my
question
is,
is
which.
A
To
enforcement
based
on
customer
or
citizen
complaints,
council
member
mounts
now:
it's
the.
N
N
I
I
believe
what
we've
received
a
bit
of
feedback
or
heard
from
the
two
pet
pet.
N
Conversations
with
you
know
between
the
sponsors
and
those
store
owners
about.
N
Those
conversations
happened
or
really
just
through
notification
and
written
communication.
G
Yeah,
so
the
two
pet
shops
were
notified
prior
to
the.
G
Meeting
of
the
animal
care
and
control
commission
on
november
8th-
and
I
did
not
sorry
my
cat.
G
Really
wants
to
be
involved
in
this.
I
wonder
why
so
they
I
did
not
hear
from
them
until.
G
I
think
it
was
today
via
email
so
and
from
from
anthony's
pets.
The
owner
did
email.
G
So
no,
I
have
not
had
one-on-one
conversations
I'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
G
But
I
think
that
yeah
that
that's
may
still
be
forthcoming.
I
mean
in
the
case
of
anthony's.
G
Pets
that
owner
had
specific
concerns
about
the
extension
of
his
lease
at
his
current
location.
G
And
sort
of
you
know
had
plans
to
retire
after
a
certain
period,
and
so
it
was
very.
G
Particular
to
his
situation,
but
that's
that's
all
I
can
say
I
don't
know
about
my
colleagues.
T
Yes,
that
is
accurate,
letters
were
sent
or
emails
were
sent
to
the
two
shops
that
are.
T
Going
to
be
most
impacted
with
the,
I
believe,
the
language
in
it-
and
I
do
want
to
thank
by
the.
T
Way,
our
our
our
our
staff
assistant
attorney,
heather,
lacy
for
being
so
diligent
in
her
research.
T
And
and
us
speaking
with
her
all
along
the
way
about
the
best
best
way
to
make
notice
and.
T
Have
further
conversations
should
there
be
any
compelling
reasons
why
the
ordinance
as.
T
It
is
currently
written
is
not
satisfactory
to
the
pet
shop
owners,
but
again
we
feel.
T
T
Operations
as
a
small
business
without
having
to
depend
on
the
sale
of
of
dogs
and
cats,.
T
T
Domino
effect
with
other
adjoining
communities,
but
we
can
only
do
what
we
can
do
here
in
the
city.
T
Of
bloomington
those
who
feel
very
strongly
about
humane
conditions
for
our
our
beloved
pets.
D
G
Extend
such
a
prohibition
throughout
the
county.
Now,
that's
that's
as
probably
as
much
as.
G
As
we
could
do,
we
are
residents
of
the
county
and
constituents
of
county
government
just
like.
G
D
Council
member
flaherty-
yes,
thank
you
so
I'll
start
by
noting
that
I
I
100
share
the
goal.
N
Of
a
humane
treatment
of
animals
and
b,
putting
all
puppy
mills
and
kitten
mills
entirely
into.
N
Whom
have
you
know
some
interest
of
some
kind
and
that's
fine?
But
when
we
ban
things
sometimes.
N
There
are
spillover
effects
of
various
types,
whether
it's
displacing
the
activity
elsewhere
or.
N
Simply
driving
activity
underground.
So
again
I
don't
know
the
the
politics
invested
interests.
N
N
Specifically,
what
research
basis
we
have
to
compare
those
things
with
regard
to
their.
N
Impact
on
on
puppy
mills
to
reach
the
desired
goal
that
all
of
us
share
could
it
speak
to
them.
T
Full
appreciation
for
what
it
was
we
were.
We
were
attempting
to
do.
T
It
recently
was
unanimously
approved
by
the
what
is
that
called
the
animal
control
commission.
T
Who
welcomed
this?
Because
apparently
this
is
something
locally-
that
many
active
actively.
T
Able
to
get
quite
the
foothold
into
it.
So,
even
though
this
is
national,
certainly
in
in
the
amount.
T
T
To
move
this
forward
to
an
actual
ban,
rather
than
to
try
to
to
merely
regulate
it,.
N
My
concern
is
not
that
I
would
like
to
ban
the
existence
of
puppy
mills.
My
concern
is
that.
N
Research
like
quantitative
metrics
of
different
places
that
have
enacted
bans
or
not
and
looking.
N
N
Unregulated
sales
or
other
sort
of
metrics
that
I
think
are
relevant
to
this
conversation.
N
Of
like
the
overall
goal
of
increasing
animal
welfare-
and
it's
I'll
continue
to
do.
N
F
You
know
will
be
very
much,
I
think
successful,
but
it
will
be
routed
to
those
those
avenues.
D
Okay,
seeing
none-
oh
I'm,
sorry,
council,
member
flaherty,
my
blurry
hand.
I
have
one.
N
N
Mills,
I
guess
my
question,
though,
is
the
premise
seems
to
be
that
that
that
risk
is.
Y
Y
Y
These
pet
stores
are
operating
working
with
these
puppy
mills.
It's
very
high
volume.
Y
And
you'll
you'll
see
where
they're
living
and
that
provides
the
disconnect
between.
Y
The
pet
store,
which
is
the
middleman,
the
consumer,
has
no
way
to
verify
really
truly,
where.
N
D
Thank
you,
councilmember
rosenberger
thanks.
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
adoption
piece
in.
X
This,
so
I
think
this
ordinance
is
saying
a
pet
shop
can
host
adoption
like
parties
or.
X
Is
that
the
norm
that
the
the
pet
store
can't
share
in
any
of
those
profits?
I
mean
I
understand.
X
X
Not
sneaking
in
puppy
mill
dogs,
but
I
guess
I'm
just
like
trying
to
think
like.
X
Futuristically
or
something
like,
would
it
not
make
sense
sort
of
for
like
a
non-profit.
X
T
T
To
bring
people
into
your
store,
you
could
partner
with
other
rescue
or
sheltering.
T
Organizations
to
do
that,
that's
not
saying
that
they
they
would,
you
know,
be
required.
D
Miss
martin,
yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
council
member
sandberg.
I
would
just
like
to.
Y
To
piggyback
a
little
bit
off
of
that,
so
we
know
that
the
most
successful
pet
stores,
including.
Y
Three
in
bloomington
do
not
sell
dogs
or
cats
period.
They
know
that
the
most
successful
pet.
Y
Stores
have
a
103
billion
dollar
industry
that
includes
supplies
food
toys,
grooming,
I
mean
for.
Y
Any
of
you
who
have
pets,
you
know
how
expensive
they
can
be,
and
so
they
bring
us
a
lot
of.
Y
Stores
they'll
also
say
I
think,
generally
there's
been
some
some
issues
with
loopholes.
Y
And
other
jurisdictions
across
the
country,
where
they're,
allowing
rescues,
maybe
or
pet
stores,
to.
Y
Sell
animals,
and
so
it
causes
some
quote,
unquote:
sham
rescues
to
pop
up
selling
these
dogs
and.
D
D
Are
contacting
us
through
a
cell
phone
star9
should
get
you
to
us
and
always
if
there
is.
D
D
M
Yes-
and
I
believe
we
may
have
one
or
two
that
would
like
to
comment
through.
M
Through
chat,
so
I
see
seven
raised
hands
at
the
moment.
Okay,
let's
do
three
minutes
each.
D
Yourself,
your
full
name
and
then
you'll
have
three
minutes.
My
name
is
karen
kidwell.
Z
And
I
started
this
store
about
40
years
ago
and
I
gave
it
to
my
daughter
a
few
years
ago.
Z
Z
Z
That
many
years
we've
always
tried
to
treat
our
customers
right
and
we
don't
like
them
for
us.
Z
We've
encouraged
come
in
and
play
we
never
try
to
sell
them
anything,
but
they
miss
their
animals.
Z
And
they've
helped
us
with
socialization
and
and
what
have
you
while
the
animals
are
here.
D
Else,
okay,
and
did
you
say
you
have
other
individuals
who'd
like
to
speak
on
this
device.
Z
M
Be
just
as
easy
to
have
them
go
one
at
a
time
if
they're
on
the
same
device.
D
Why
don't
we
do
that?
So,
ms
kidwell,
if
you
could
hand
over
the
phone
to
the
next
person.
W
W
W
W
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AB
AB
And
also
it
states
in
our
contract
that
if
we
feel
like
a
puppy
is
a
smaller
puppy,
we.
AB
Personal
information,
my
phone
number
and
tell
them
they
can
call
me
at
any
time
if
anything's.
AB
D
Z
Spoken,
we've
tried
forever
to
be
responsible
and
I
guess
we
kind
of
resent
the
fact
that.
Z
And
I
I
think
I
think
you're
doing
so
much
in
your
service.
Thank
you,
ms
kidwell.
D
AC
D
AD
AD
AD
AD
Although
they
don't
come
to
our
shop
anyway,
this
ruling
is
harmful
to
all
breeds
of
dogs.
Please.
AD
Phone
calls
and
emails
in
support.
I
would
encourage
the
council
to
vote
against
this.
AD
21
21
45.
I
believe
it
is
again
it's
just
upsetting
to
be
classed
in
with
puffy
mills.
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
D
There
should
be
a
timer
that
appears
on
your
screen,
so
please
do
keep
an
eye
on
that.
So.
W
AG
Go
ahead,
welcome
jacob
hi,
sorry,
my
name
is
alison
jacobs
and
I'm
here
today
on
behalf
of.
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
We
heard
tonight
from
people
that
work
at
delilah's
that
they
admittingly
purchase
their.
AG
M
AH
AH
Would
be
here
if
they
weren't
it's
just
kind
of
why
we
all
got
to
this
job?
I
started
doing.
AH
AH
AH
AH
Indicate
how
people
deceive
the
pet
store.
You
can't
really
deceive
me
when
I'm
there
I'm
on
site.
AH
AH
AH
AH
My
landlord
somewhere
else,
that
is
so
not
my
goal,
I'm
ready
to
retire,
and
I
would
like
to
do
that.
AH
Short
extension,
I
will
probably
monetarily
have
no
issue.
My
small
store
isn't
viable
for
the
for.
AH
AH
In
a
mall
I
wish
it
was
different,
but
I
I
would
be
forced
to
to
change
things
up.
I
would
much.
AH
AH
Think
the
nail
is
being
hit
on
the
head
and
the
difference
between
a
year
or
a
year
and
six
months.
AH
AH
Say,
except
thank
you
for
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you,
mr
tabelis,
mr
lucas,
who
do
we
have.
M
D
AI
This
is
something
that
I
believe
that
I
emailed
everyone.
That's
on
the
town.
AI
AI
AI
AI
AI
AI
Bloomington
bloomington
is
taking
this
on
as
an
issue
coming
from
northwest
indiana.
I
just.
AI
AI
AI
AI
You
hi
this
is
khaki
egan,
I'm
having
to
use
linda
lawson's
computer.
So
when
you're
ready
just.
AJ
D
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
The
rescue
groups
and
the
the
shelters
do
their
job
that
they've
been
trained
to
do.
AK
Hello,
thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
allison
zuck
and
I
run
the
ranch
cat
rescue
here
in
bloomington.
AK
I'm
going
to
start
by
saying
thank
you.
I
appreciate
all
of
your
cats
that
have
made
their.
AK
Video
appearances
tonight,
I'm
I'm
here
as
your
resident
cat
lady
we've
heard
a
lot
about
puppy.
AK
Mills
and
you
know,
as
samantha
morton
mentioned,
while
kitten
mills
are
not
as
prevalent,
they
do.
AK
Exist
and
it's
under
you
know
those
same
terribly
inhumane
conditions.
I
feel
like
I'm
just
gonna.
AK
Reiterate
so
many
great
points
that
a
lot
of
folks
have
made,
but
as
a
rescue,
I
take
an
issue
with.
AK
AK
AK
Anybody
from
bacc
here
you
know
we're
we're
all
overflowing
with
animals
here
in
bloomington.
AK
AK
In
you
know
kind
of
a
an
unfortunate
terrible
situation
either
in
the
wild
spreading
diseases.
AK
Petco
and
petsmart
have
you
know
where
they
do
shelter,
animals
and
bringing
those
into
stores.
AK
And
get
more
moving
through.
I
know
a
lot
of
the
volunteers
for
rescues
are
the
ones
to
help
staff.
AK
Those
stores,
those
animals
to
scoop
litter
boxes
and
help
socialize
the
cats
to
kind
of
offset.
AK
AK
As
rescues
we're
very
conscious
of
that,
but
ultimately
you
know
I
always
want
to
push
for.
AK
AK
AK
D
Three
minutes:
please
go
ahead!
Wonderful!
Wonderful!
Thank
you!
So
much.
Thank
you
to
the
council
for.
AL
For
considering
this
legislation,
my
name
is
ann
sterling,
I'm
a
resident
of
sycamore
normal.
AL
AL
For
the
dogs
who
are
in
the
mills,
the
reason
we
have
we
have
hundreds
of
puppy
mills
in
indiana.
AL
AL
For
pets,
that's
that's
not
what
we
want
to
be
part
of
here
in
bloomington.
We
have
an
opportunity.
AL
AL
Be
a
better
state,
so
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
miss
sterling,
mr
lucas,
who
do
we
have
next.
M
Next
is
rachel
degradi
gregorio.
Excuse
me,
mr.
AM
Thank
you
and
you
did
pronounce
it
correctly.
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
thank
the
council.
AM
AM
AM
As
somebody
mentioned,
you
know,
these
are
not
good
ways
to
put
dogs
down,
but
many
country,
roads.
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
AM
I
believe
they
can
transition
to
a
more
responsible
model.
The
animals
deserve.
AM
To
see
this
kind
of
thing-
and
I
thank
you
for
your
time-
thank
you,
mr
gregorio.
Sorry.
So,
mr
lucas.
D
M
AN
Oh,
thank
you,
I'm
so
pleased
to
be
just
talking
to
you
today
and
I'm
so
grateful
that.
AN
Lovingly
bring
up
the
animals
they
want
to
meet
the
future
owners.
They
do
not
delegate
that.
AN
AN
That
two
local
pet
stores
can
regulate
these
breeders
is
is
just
not
going
to
work.
What
we.
AN
AN
D
Zoom
or
if
you
are
on
a
cell
phone
use
star9,
please
let
us
know
if
there.
M
I
do
see
a
hand
race,
but
I
believe
that
attendee
has.
M
Respond,
yes,
hello,
mr
thompson,
we've
already
appreciate.
We
appreciate
the
comment
you
offered.
D
Okay,
thank
you
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
commenter.
I
saw
a
briefly
raised
hand.
M
Yes
looks
like
tnt
pet
would
like
to
comment
after
all,
and
I
should
not
be
able.
AO
AO
AO
AO
AO
G
Yeah
I'd
like
to,
like
my
colleague,
said
earlier,
I'd
like
to
thank
heather
lacey.
G
G
G
We
are
not
accusing
the
local
pet
shops
who
do
sell
cancer
dogs
of
any
bad
behavior
at
all.
G
G
Of
additional
animals,
so
thank
you
also
to
my
colleagues
for
the
good
questions
that
were
raised.
G
I
will
try
to
reach
out
to
elizabeth
orrick
again
to
get
some
more
information
about.
G
The
california
ordinance
and
its
its
consequences,
but
overall
I
I
remain
convinced
that
this
is.
T
To
offer
their
perspectives,
I
particularly
like
to
hear
from
miss
lawson
and
miss
egan
from
their.
T
Indiana
and
what
other
states
do
that
have
an
impact
here,
but
I
overall
agree
that
the.
T
T
And,
of
course,
elsewhere
too,
by
our
example,
but
again
we
only
have
jurisdiction
here.
T
T
N
I'll
reiterate
that
I
100
agree
with
the
goal
of
eliminating
puppy
mills.
I've
heard
a.
N
Think
we
all
think
of
that
practice,
but
but
I
I
think
I
I
still
want
to
see
the
data
driven
case.
N
For
this
being
the
most
effective
tool-
and
I
want
to
continue
to
explore
the
idea
that.
N
Was
shared
from
the
representative
from
the
humane
society
that
it
is
not
possible
for
a
pet.
N
Store
to
ethically
sell
a
pet
full
stop,
because
there's
definitely
prominent
folks,
including.
N
N
Authority
on
animal
welfare
by
any
means,
but
I
think
they
do
care
in
this
space.
So
again
I
I.
N
I'll
be
speaking
with
the
a
couple
of
local
pet
store
owners
and
continuing
to
research
and.
D
Okay,
so
I
have
noticed
your
vote
council
member
scandal.
G
Of
details
in
it,
and
so
I
will
ask
comptroller
jeff
underwood,
to
take
us
through
it.
P
You'll
have
any
trouble
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
and
run
through
the
memo
that
wasn't.
AP
E
AP
P
Comprehensive
year-end
appropriation,
the
total
appropriation
is
two
million
two
hundred
and.
P
Forty-One
thousand
two
hundred
and
seventy-four
dollars.
This
request
covers
ten
funds
of.
P
P
P
P
Funding
to
reimburse
road
improvement
costs
in
the
engineering
department,
sixteen
thousand
dollars.
P
In
fees
for
a
conference
that
was
hosted
by
the
police
department,
eighty
four
thousand
nine.
P
Hundred
and
twenty
one
dollars
from
public
transit
to
cost,
share
bus,
shelter,
improvement
program.
P
In
addition,
as
we
normally
do
at
this
time,
we
move
money
from
the
rental
inspection.
P
P
The
million
732
our
total
net
request
impact
is
a
use
of
281
940
and
that
comes
from
the
cash.
P
Balance
in
the
general
fund,
the
bulk
of
this
request
can
be
looked
at
in
the
fire
department.
P
P
P
In
here
animal
care,
the
public
works
department
is
requesting
a
transfer
of
seven
thousand
dollars.
P
P
P
Again,
84
920,
one
of
that
is
being
reimbursed
by
the
transit
department,
housing,
a
neighborhood.
P
P
For
the
corporation
council,
but
actually
for
the
not
for
the
corporation
council,
I
was.
P
Channeling
another
department
for
the
department
director
that
left
earlier
and.
P
That
would
have
been
and
paid
out
in
accordance
with
city
policy.
The
surplus
funds
are
due
to.
P
The
clerk's
office
is
releasing
five
thousand
dollars
in
classification.
Three.
P
Classification,
one
that's
due
to
several
vacancies
during
the
year
and
a
release
of
five.
P
Means
being
conducted
virtually
our
office,
the
controller's
office
is
requesting
at
least
95
000.
P
In
classification,
three
services
due
to
savings
from
project
management
needs
to
cover
19,
so.
P
Programs
didn't
ramp
up
as
virtually
as
possible
economic
and
sustainable
development.
P
To
reduce
reduced
needs
to
related
to
supplies
needed
for
programs
that
were
provided
virtually.
P
And
a
release
of
three
thousand
dollars
from
classification:
three,
due
to
less
travel.
P
The
budget
was
approved
so
those
additional
funds-
weren't
known
and
not
added
and
then
a.
P
Hundred
thousand
dollars
in
classification,
three
services
to
cover
part
of
the
cost
related
to.
P
The
cleanup
in
regards
to
the
voluntary
burn,
I
will
say
that
we
did
talk
to
the
chief.
P
And
he
believes
that
the
additional
cost
which
we
believe
are
estimated
to
be
about
18
000.
P
Department
requesting
additional
appropriation
of
four
thousand
dollars
in
classification,
one.
P
P
Included
in
the
2021
budget
mayor's
office
is
requesting
a
25
000
transfer
from
classification,
3.
P
Supplies
to
cover
covet
19
expenditures,
police
department
is
requesting
a
30
000
classification,
1.
P
Of
two
hundred
and
eight
thousand
dollars
from
classification
three
to
cover
related.
P
Higher
insurance
premiums
and
obviously
unbudgeted
repairs
for
flooding
in
the
building.
P
P
P
The
surplus
funds
and
classification,
too,
related
to
reduced
training
costs.
In
addition,.
P
And
as
noted
earlier,
these
funds
will
be
reversed
funding
I'll
just
note
here
that
typically
you.
P
Know
that
when
there's
cost
share
and
it's
a
tip
program,
it
would
be
paid
directly
from.
P
The
state
dictates
we
have
to
use
the
public
works
engineering
department
funds
to
do
that.
P
P
Along
with
travel
and
training,
peter
coven,
that
is
all
of
the
departments
in
the
general.
P
Fund
and
now
moving
on
to
the
other
funds
that
had
requests
in
the
public
safety,
local
income.
P
Capital
classification
to
supplies-
and
this
is
helping
as
well-
for
repairs
to
the
building.
P
P
From
classification,
one
personal
services,
classification,
three
to
cover
increased
costs.
P
Requesting
additional
appropriate
122
500
pro
classification,
three-
and
this
is
really
to
cover.
P
This
is
due
to
several
things.
Obviously,
if
you've
seen
the
cost
of
goods
and
materials.
P
Have
increased
dramatically
during
the
pandemic
and
parks
department
is
a
producer.
P
Of
goods
of
goods
materials
so
they've
seen
a
big
increase
as
well
as
bringing
on.
P
P
And
in
addition,
you'll
see
this
in
a
few
other
departments,
increased
insurance
premiums.
P
Premiums
have
been
going
up,
alternative
transportation,
fund
parking
services,
departments.
P
P
Classification,
three
and
again,
this
is
related
to
higher
than
budgeted
insurance.
For
me,
solid.
P
Waste
the
sanitation
division
is
requesting
an
additional
appropriation
46
839
for
classification.
P
Three
related
to
a
couple
of
things:
increase
in
solid
waste
and
recycling
fees
and
insurance.
P
P
The
transfer
over
the
cumulative
capital
development
fund
public
works
is
requesting.
P
Two
to
classification
four-
and
this
is
to
accommodate
the
contracting
of
companies.
P
P
2021
end
documented
crossings,
grant
police
mission
fund
a
big
trend
of
10
from
classification.
P
Three
classification,
one-
and
this
is
just
you
know-
covering
personnel
costs
and
do
the
rounding.
P
The
receipts
from
the
program
and
the
designated
fund
and
then
we're
allowed
to
move
that
over.
P
And
so
we're
requesting
to
move
that
over
and
it's
a
part
of
that
net
appropriation.
So
this
will.
P
Be
a
positive
impact
on
the
general
fund
and
then
finally,
the
controller's
office
is
requesting.
P
The
appropriation
of
thirteen
thousand
one
hundred
that
one
hundred
thousand
dollars
bond
proceeds.
P
P
P
Will
note
that
on
december
1st,
that
will
also
be
our
public
hearing
that
will
be
duly
advertised.
P
P
Your
consideration
of
the
request,
as
always
like
should
started
by
saying
I
want
to
thank
them.
P
P
The
request
for
additional
funds
down
as
much
as
possible.
So
thank
you
happy
to
answer
questions.
G
G
G
So
on
the
the
food
and
beverage
fund
appropriation
of
122
500
is
that.
G
We
have
a
a
food
and
beverage
commission
that
oversees
that
fund
right
do.
We
need
to.
P
To
go
back
since
the
program
was
approved
and
I
think
we're
still
under
the
maximum
amount.
AQ
G
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
now
from
my
colleagues.
G
I
have
more
so
the.
G
Another
fund
where
an
additional
appropriation
was
requested
was
the
motor
vehicle
highway
fund.
P
P
The
39
000
we
have
a
sufficient
funds,
cash
balance
in
the
mvh
fund
to.
P
Appropriate
that
all
right
good,
and
that
would
that
would
be
true
for
any
of
those.
P
That
was
an
actual,
so
the
the
general
fund,
the
five
funds
that
had
added
money,
sanitation.
P
Appropriations,
okay,
great
and
then
the
the
solid
waste
fund
for
sanitation
services.
G
Your
memo
says:
there's
no
fiscal
impact
due
to
this
request,
how
yeah
so
that's
calculated,
yeah.
So.
P
How
that
works,
if
you'll
remember,
when
we
do
the
budget,
we
bring
two
two
parts
of
that
budget
to.
P
P
That
had
been
up
to
1.6
million
dollars.
What
we
do
at
the
end
of
the
year
is
we
transfer.
P
G
P
P
P
Things
there's
the
budget,
the
spending
plan,
so
how
that's
typically,
I
think,
around
three.
It's.
G
P
So
very
good
council,
member
sims,
thank
you,
mr
underwood,
and
the
question
I'm
going.
A
Just
tell
me
that
and
I'll
pursue
it
in
different
angles,
but
I'm
thinking
in
terms
of
the
costs.
A
That
we've
had
with
the
the
controlled
house
burn
last
I
heard
it
was
about
118
000.,
so.
A
P
No
absolutely
as
a
part
of
this,
and
it
was
a
last
additional
ad.
In
fact,
we
waited
to
send
you.
P
A
revised
ordinance
until
I'd
had
a
time
a
chance
to
talk
with
the
chief
on
monday
to
make
sure.
P
P
But
I
held
it
back
thanks
to
stephen
holding
it
embargoing
it
for
me
until
I
had
an.
P
Opportunity
to
talk
with
him
to
see
if
they,
if
he
believed
that
he
had
sufficient
remaining
funds.
P
In
his
budget
and
after
they
reviewed
it
on
monday
afternoon,
he
believes
that
they
will.
P
P
G
G
All
right,
seeing
no
public
comment,
we
will
come
back
to
council
members.
G
G
All
right
well
seeing
no
further
comment.
Let's
do
I
have
a
do
pass
recommendation.
A
Oh,
do
pass
exactly
all
right.
Thank
you,
council
member
smith,
yes,
council,
member
scandal,
lurie,
yes,.